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denime
03-28-2013, 05:35 AM
Mornin'




TFC TV



(http://www.torontofc.ca/video)MLSE’s Anselmi enjoys new-look Toronto FC


(http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/mlses-anselmi-enjoys-new-look-toronto-fc/)Russell where he wants to be (http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/27/toronto-fcs-darel-russell-is-right-where-he-wants-to-be)


Nelsen: TFC supporters owed a debt (http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/26/toronto-fcs-nelsen-talks-of-debt-owed-to-supporters)






TFC Related Blogs !!


(http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?29582-TFC-MLS-blogs-thread)

SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshine-girl)


(http://www.torontofc.ca/video)

Nerepis
03-28-2013, 06:26 AM
The Anselmi article is laugh out loud on so many levels. ---

“I think we’ve finally got the leadership right, and I say that with all respect to those who have came before,” Anselmi said Wednesday

He's talking about himself here and ---

“We’ve got work to do yet obviously. You don’t build Rome in a day,” said Anselmi.

My thoughts went directly to Nero fiddling while Rome burned... there's a banner for you.

Oldtimer
03-28-2013, 07:21 AM
There's a thread on the Anselmi interview (the Metro version of it). Let's just say he has few fans around here:

http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showthread.php?33848-Anselmi-sees-positive-at-Toronto-FC

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Russell says some flattering things about the league, but realistically it's not going to compete at all with the Premiership, even in a decade.
If it competes with Ligue 1 and the English Championship, I'll be very happy. It's certainly improved greatly since 2005.

Detroit_TFC
03-28-2013, 08:22 AM
Agreed, salary cap issues will always be a brake on overall league quality. The exemptions like DP, allocation etc, might allow teams to build a lower Prem/upper Championship starting XI but the depth players won't be at that caliber. What are the average wages in the Championship? As of 2009-2010, like $348K/yr (£211,068 per yr per PFA documents).

Not sure if this is noted somewhere else but it's relevant - apparently Italian Serie B will initiate a salary cap in the near future. This would be a cap on wage paid to a particular player rather than a total payroll cap. IMO this is more problematic than a team cap.

Hopefully at some point MLS will shift to a luxury tax approach and eliminate the DP and allocation shenanigans.

BuSaPuNk
03-28-2013, 08:37 AM
Hopefully at some point MLS will shift to a luxury tax approach and eliminate the DP and allocation shenanigans.

I really hope that is the next step. Realistically the leauge has to be making boat loads of money at this point. Low salaries more teams more revenue from the new teams. There has to be a jump in the cap or a new way of doing things they can't compete with the other leauges around the world or even close to home if they don't do something to raise the overall pay of the players.

Technorgasm
03-28-2013, 08:56 AM
I really hope that is the next step. Realistically the leauge has to be making boat loads of money at this point. Low salaries more teams more revenue from the new teams. There has to be a jump in the cap or a new way of doing things they can't compete with the other leauges around the world or even close to home if they don't do something to raise the overall pay of the players.

IS there an MLS players union?
If sop, when can we expect a revolt / strike?

Salaries seem to be such a minimal part of the entire picture. . .
I really feel for soem of these guys honestly trying to make a go of it. . .

BuSaPuNk
03-28-2013, 09:17 AM
http://www.mlsplayers.org/

Yep. Have to think that they just don't want to fight and just get a little at a time. I agree a huge fight/lockout/strike will hurt the game to the point that is might never recover especially in cities that don't really have alot of support.

Slow and steady as much as it's frustrating its best for the game. But after expansion to MTL, VAN, Portland three cities that are bringing huge return for the leauge I would expect to be some movement on the salary cap front at the end of this year.

TOBOR !
03-28-2013, 10:20 AM
The Anselmi article is laugh out loud on so many levels. ---

“I think we’ve finally got the leadership right, and I say that with all respect to those who have came before,” Anselmi said Wednesday

He's talking about himself here and ---

“We’ve got work to do yet obviously. You don’t build Rome in a day,” said Anselmi.

My thoughts went directly to Nero fiddling while Rome burned... there's a banner for you.

Timing is everything. Some time last year I ran this up the flagpole... :

http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=3019&d=1340041090

Yohan
03-28-2013, 11:07 AM
somewhat MLS related, Serie B to have salary cap for the first time
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/soccer-italys-serie-b-salary-cap-next-season-194352418--sow.html

Strikers
03-28-2013, 11:51 AM
I think that MLS should keep the cap it has now but change the DP rule; each team keep a max of 3 DP's which none of their salary counts against the cap.
This would free up over a million dollars to sign more quality players. I think this would be the best way for MLS to go forward.

Yohan
03-28-2013, 11:55 AM
I think that MLS should keep the cap it has now but change the DP rule; each team keep a max of 3 DP's which none of their salary counts against the cap.
This would free up over a million dollars to sign more quality players. I think this would be the best way for MLS to go forward.
parity says this will likely not happen

Yohan
03-28-2013, 11:58 AM
I really hope that is the next step. Realistically the leauge has to be making boat loads of money at this point. Low salaries more teams more revenue from the new teams. There has to be a jump in the cap or a new way of doing things they can't compete with the other leauges around the world or even close to home if they don't do something to raise the overall pay of the players.
MLS spends min 76 million in salaries (4 mil per team X 19). this doesn't take into account other expenses

I don't have firm numbers on everything, but I don't think gate + TV deals come anywhere close to 76 mil. I'd be surprised if MLS is making 1 cent in profit

Strikers
03-28-2013, 11:58 AM
parity says this will likely not happen


I think it could if MLS continues to own the player contracts, I would want MLS to still vito and make sure that said DP's will be a good fit.

Yohan
03-28-2013, 12:01 PM
I think it could if MLS continues to own the player contracts, I would want MLS to still vito and make sure that said DP's will be a good fit.
economic viability is first priority for MLS FO. DPs without cap hit forces owners to spend money that they may not have in order to be competitive.

and I hate the fact that MLS FO can veto signings and force trades in MLS

BuSaPuNk
03-28-2013, 12:52 PM
MLS spends min 76 million in salaries (4 mil per team X 19). this doesn't take into account other expenses

I don't have firm numbers on everything, but I don't think gate + TV deals come anywhere close to 76 mil. I'd be surprised if MLS is making 1 cent in profit

Didn't know the numbers that's good to know. So it makes a little sense. However where is the expansion fees that Vancouver, Montreal and Portland paid the leauge?

pdogg
03-28-2013, 01:01 PM
I think that MLS should keep the cap it has now but change the DP rule; each team keep a max of 3 DP's which none of their salary counts against the cap.
This would free up over a million dollars to sign more quality players. I think this would be the best way for MLS to go forward.

I'd prefer that they just upped the cap by the 3 DP amount (1.2M?) instead of that option. If you don't want to sign a DP but instead would prefer to upgrade the quality of the bench/starters, that would help increase the lower end of the league quality. Anyone who wants to DP it up, can do that too.

Yohan
03-28-2013, 01:01 PM
Didn't know the numbers that's good to know. So it makes a little sense. However where is the expansion fees that Vancouver, Montreal and Portland paid the leauge?
if you are building a financial model with assumption that expansion fees will keep coming in, MLS is going to be in a world of hurt when expansion fees stop.

BuSaPuNk
03-28-2013, 01:08 PM
^ oh I agree was just thinking where that money has ended up

Oldtimer
03-28-2013, 01:39 PM
if you are building a financial model with assumption that expansion fees will keep coming in, MLS is going to be in a world of hurt when expansion fees stop.

That's what killed the old NASL in the early 80's.

Batman
03-29-2013, 09:35 AM
The Anselmi article is laugh out loud on so many levels. ---

“I think we’ve finally got the leadership right, and I say that with all respect to those who have came before,” Anselmi said Wednesday

He's talking about himself here and ---

“We’ve got work to do yet obviously. You don’t build Rome in a day,” said Anselmi.

My thoughts went directly to Nero fiddling while Rome burned... there's a banner for you.

Ya, exactly.

Rome wasn't buit in a day..

Haha.. but I bet it didn't take 6 years to get it started, neither.

Anselmi is such a political wanker. Get back to condos and crap Tommy.

JonO
03-29-2013, 10:06 AM
I think that MLS should keep the cap it has now but change the DP rule; each team keep a max of 3 DP's which none of their salary counts against the cap.
This would free up over a million dollars to sign more quality players. I think this would be the best way for MLS to go forward.
I think it's been mentioned before, but another interesting approach would be to allow team to use the DP slot to buy a set amount of allocation money (or some other money over and above the cap - can be it's own category of "extra" money). That way, rather than using a DP slot on 1 player you could use it to bolster your overall team salary.