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Yohan
03-05-2013, 03:30 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/05/montreal-impact-sign-academy-product-canadian-u-20-keeper-maxime-crepeau

Montreal signs Canadian U20 GK Maxime Crepeau to HG contract

Yohan
03-19-2013, 11:31 AM
Former French international striker Peguy Luyindula signs with NYRB. No mention of DP...

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/19/new-york-red-bulls-sign-former-paris-saint-germain-and-lyon-striker-peguy-lu

ensco
03-20-2013, 07:06 AM
Soumare is in play. I wonder if Philly would take Califf back for him.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/19/philadelphia-union-defender-bakary-soumare-asks-trade

jloome
03-20-2013, 11:27 AM
Soumare is in play. I wonder if Philly would take Califf back for him.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/19/philadelphia-union-defender-bakary-soumare-asks-trade

We could only pray.

T-boy
03-20-2013, 11:33 AM
We could only pray.

Califf has been a great performer for TFC so far! I wouldn't want to see him go!

ensco
03-20-2013, 12:07 PM
Califf has been a great performer for TFC so far! I wouldn't want to see him go!

Then we should trade him while he is at peak value. Hackworth is big on this whole "Philly Tough" thing, Califf is kind of a Dichio-esque figure for the Sons of Ben. It was Nowak who moved Califf, not Hackworth.

Califf is 33 but not an international. Soumare is 27 and an international.

I would move Califf for Soumare so fast it would make your head spin.

Yohan
03-20-2013, 12:14 PM
Then we should trade him while he is at peak value.

I would move Califf for Soumare so fast it would make your head spin.
indeed. though Soumare is on a high wage (300k or something) but he's younger, and better version of Califf. Only thing Califf has on Soumare is experience, but even that is very marginal

PopePouri
03-20-2013, 12:16 PM
I doubt it will be like for like trade. Most likely we'll have to pony up more.

tfcleeds
03-20-2013, 10:21 PM
Freddy Adu on his way to Brazil (Bahia) with Kleberson coming to Philly in return - not quite a done deal yet.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/20/philadelphia-union-coach-john-hackworth-confirms-freddy-adu-kleberson-swap-n

Oldtimer
03-21-2013, 07:38 AM
Freddy Adu on his way to Brazil (Bahia) with Kleberson coming to Philly in return - not quite a done deal yet.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/20/philadelphia-union-coach-john-hackworth-confirms-freddy-adu-kleberson-swap-n

No surprise that they want to unload Adu. Adu's early success went to his head it seems and he never developed properly as a footballer. He ended up being one of the most over-hyped players in the history of MLS (the next Pele anyone?), but never found serious success. If he had stayed at DC he might have had a chance.

Yohan
03-21-2013, 05:14 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/03/21/fc-dallas-officially-sign-midfielder-ramon-nunez-homegrown-keeper-jesse-gonz

Dallas sign Honduran international and ex Leeds midfielder Ramon Nunez

CommradePolski
03-22-2013, 10:59 AM
Kevin Hartman is off to NYRB.

Yohan
03-26-2013, 04:21 PM
Montreal loan D Zarek Valentin to Bodo/Glimt in Norway, likely to get Bologna striker Daniele Paponi on loan.

http://www.goal.com/en-ca/news/4172/canada/2013/03/26/3855515/impact-in-talks-with-bologna-over-paponi

andmat
03-31-2013, 07:24 PM
Egyptian international striker Amr Zaki is signing with the LA Galaxy, according to the player.

Yohan
03-31-2013, 07:27 PM
Egyptian international striker Amr Zaki is signing with the LA Galaxy, according to the player.
apparently april fools

andmat
04-01-2013, 01:22 PM
apparently april fools

OMG, And I sent text messages to my friend's about it yesterday :facepalm:

Damn fruit lied on his twitter.

andmat
04-01-2013, 01:40 PM
Arshavin to the LA Galaxy?
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...eted-la-galaxy
(http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/04/01/kick-andrei-arshavin-reportedly-targeted-la-galaxy)

andmat
04-01-2013, 01:42 PM
Better not be an April fools joke again.

ensco
04-01-2013, 02:10 PM
Arshavin to the LA Galaxy?
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...eted-la-galaxy
(http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/04/01/kick-andrei-arshavin-reportedly-targeted-la-galaxy)

Makes no sense. With all the huge ethnic communities in LA, why go that way? LA should sign Park Ji Sung, or one of the Colombian studs tearing up Conmebol WC qualifying.

The MLS cities with big Russian communities are NY and Toronto.

Yohan
04-01-2013, 02:23 PM
Makes no sense. With all the huge ethnic communities in LA, why go that way? LA should sign Park Ji Sung, or one of the Colombian studs tearing up Conmebol WC qualifying.

The MLS cities with big Russian communities are NY and Toronto.you know, LA might just be signing Arse Shavin for footballing reasons :p

ensco
04-01-2013, 02:26 PM
you know, LA might just be signing Arse Shavin for footballing reasons :p

Nah. There is no way that he is Arena's type of player.

Oldtimer
04-04-2013, 10:59 AM
Totti to MLS?

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.vocegiallorossa.it/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D51400&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTuttosport,%2BTotti%2Bto%2BMLS%26hl%3 Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DFxN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&ei=xlJdUeG1Go_s0gWEu4FI&ved=0CDUQ7gEwAA

andmat
04-05-2013, 04:16 PM
Bologna forward Daniele Paponi (24 years old) is currently on trial with the Montreal Impact.

Abou Sky
04-08-2013, 02:06 PM
Impact acquires 19-year-old midfielder Maximiliano Rodriguez on loan
http://www.impactmontreal.com/en/news/2013/04/impact-acquires-19-year-old-midfielder-maximiliano-rodriguez-loan (http://www.impactmontreal.com/en/news/2013/04/impact-acquires-19-year-old-midfielder-maximiliano-rodriguez-loan)

SamK
04-14-2013, 10:47 PM
Lampard to Galaxy?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/309254/Frank-Lampard-set-for-LA-Galaxy-move/

Abou Sky
04-14-2013, 11:59 PM
Lampard to Galaxy?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/309254/Frank-Lampard-set-for-LA-Galaxy-move/

I want to cry every time I see that.

I love Super Frank and I don't know if I can deal with him playing against us.

Oh well, won't happen in league play until next year I guess.

ensco
04-15-2013, 06:10 AM
Lampard is by all accounts devoted to his kids, is divorced, and is dating/engaged a TV presenter in the UK that no one on this side of the pond knows, but makes millions in the UK.

This Galaxy rumour that is being repeatedly flogged does not make a ton of sense. I predict in stays in England. Or Europe.

Yohan
04-19-2013, 03:19 PM
http://www.impactmontreal.com/en/news/2013/04/italian-forward-daniele-paponi-joins-montreal-impact-loan

Mtl signs Daniele Paponi on loan from Bologna

Yohan
04-30-2013, 10:57 AM
West Ham and former Chelsea striker Carlton Cole, 29, linked to MLS. Out of contract this summer. Has been linked for months now. 7 England caps

ag futbol
05-04-2013, 08:53 AM
Robbie Rogers spotted in training. Is he going under allocation? Playing for the team that owns his rights?

Nope, training for the LA fucking Galaxy who are expected to trade for his rights from Chicago. Oh it's not like they're struggling and could use a player or anything.

Perhaps it's time to just scap this farce of a system, I think.

PopePouri
05-04-2013, 10:29 AM
West Ham and former Chelsea striker Carlton Cole, 29, linked to MLS. Out of contract this summer. Has been linked for months now. 7 England caps

I think he'll do quite well for anyone needing a strong no. 9. I'd take him here for sure at his age.

Yohan
05-07-2013, 06:11 PM
Juan Agudelo traded to New England from Chivas USA for allocation

Detroit_TFC
05-07-2013, 06:21 PM
Juan Agudelo traded to New England from Chivas USA for allocation

Very surprising, thought he was starting to get some traction at CUSA until he got injured.

Yohan
05-07-2013, 06:24 PM
Very surprising, thought he was starting to get some traction at CUSA until he got injured.
contract up this year. doesn't look to re-sign with MLS for now

Yohan
05-23-2013, 12:11 PM
http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/05/soumare-traded-fire.html

Bakary Soumare to Chicago

Haddy
06-06-2013, 09:02 AM
LA Galaxy going after Giovani Dos Santos with MLS record contract

http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/06/reports-galaxy-santos.html

Red I
06-06-2013, 09:05 AM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/06/06/kick-gio-dos-santos-really-heading-la-galaxy

It looks like the Galaxy are taking a run at Gio Dos Santos. That's a type of player Toronto should be looking at; creative guy, good on the wings, but whatever...

EDIT: Crap, beat me to it! :D

OgtheDim
06-06-2013, 12:00 PM
I get the feeling that the Mexican League being shown on TV down in the States is affecting how certain teams are thinking. He's a good player and all but is he really a top notch DP worthy player?

Red I
06-06-2013, 12:27 PM
I get the feeling that the Mexican League being shown on TV down in the States is affecting how certain teams are thinking. He's a good player and all but is he really a top notch DP worthy player?


It depends on your definition - If by DP you mean equitable talent compared to salary, then hell to the no. If you believe included in that salary is the generated exposure, marketing, publicity, and general buzz created when a specific player is chosen that helps to boost all these things, and helps to build your brand, the league, gives you lucrative TV deals domestically and overseas, then the question becomes a lot more loaded.

Like anything, things are priced based on what people are willing to pay (for the most part). If LA is willing to "overpay" it's because there are more intangibles at play in the decision; it's worth it to them because of long term benefits, and likely a boost in ratings & interest, which will eventually translate into revenue - the "on the pitch" advertising cost (like the led signs, the billboards, the beside the net faux-painted billboards) would skyrocket, probably due to interest from Mexican corporations

Red I
06-06-2013, 12:33 PM
I get the feeling that the Mexican League being shown on TV down in the States is affecting how certain teams are thinking.

This is true; i think the fear is teams choosing building a brand over building a winning team. Well, if there's anyone who seems to get things right, it is Bruce Arena. It took time when Becks came over, and he's a seasoned pro, understanding his role, and being flexible to where he best fits into the team. Might be a different sort of challenge with Dos Santos though...

v00d00daddy
06-06-2013, 12:35 PM
I get the feeling that the Mexican League being shown on TV down in the States is affecting how certain teams are thinking. He's a good player and all but is he really a top notch DP worthy player?

Could be.

Could also explain why we're paying guys like Eckersley and O'Dea what we are paying them.

Red I
06-06-2013, 12:42 PM
Could be.

Could also explain why we're paying guys like Eckersley and O'Dea what we are paying them.

No, i think they did outperform everyone else in the last little while - the FO should have understood that in football terms, being the best players on TFC doesn't really say much in the grand scheme of things :facepalm:

v00d00daddy
06-06-2013, 12:50 PM
No, i think they did outperform everyone else in the last little while - the FO should have understood that in football terms, being the best players on TFC doesn't really say much in the grand scheme of things :facepalm:

Yes..but what I meant was that the fact that so many people that follow TFC are followers of the game from the U.K. makes it palatable to be way overpaying for guys like O'Dea and Eckersley.

If we were spending 700k on two players from anywhere else in the world and they were performing the way those two are, there'd be people screaming bloody murder about it.

gdg_9
06-06-2013, 01:35 PM
DCU Acquire D Alain Rochat from the Shitecaps.

As per MLS twitter account.

Caps receive 2015 2nd rounder + 2016 conditional pick

ag futbol
06-06-2013, 04:42 PM
That's it?!? Sounds like a steal to me

TFC07
06-06-2013, 05:06 PM
Yes..but what I meant was that the fact that so many people that follow TFC are followers of the game from the U.K. makes it palatable to be way overpaying for guys like O'Dea and Eckersley.

If we were spending 700k on two players from anywhere else in the world and they were performing the way those two are, there'd be people screaming bloody murder about it.

I agree that these two players are way overpaid and they're examples of previous management mess ups! I would say O'Dea is currently most overrated player on this roster. Great guy, but he doesn't really bring anything special to the table.

TFC07
06-06-2013, 05:08 PM
That's it?!? Sounds like a steal to me

We sure can use him! BTW: DC United has 4 Canadian players on their roster (probably all of them are starters as well). Since when Washington D.C. turned into a Canadian city? lol

Yohan
06-06-2013, 07:12 PM
We sure can use him! BTW: DC United has 4 Canadian players on their roster (probably all of them are starters as well). Since when Washington D.C. turned into a Canadian city? lol
Rochat is Canadian? By birth I suppose but...

[NBF]
06-09-2013, 07:56 AM
Rochat is Canadian? By birth I suppose but...gone too soon, yesterday the whitecaps lost O'Brian to a muscle injury and shit away 3 points.

ag futbol
06-09-2013, 10:02 AM
^ They can blame Martain Rennie and his core of USL players for that. This guy is being saved by players he's trying to push out of the team and being gulled by his own stalwarts.

Early last year they had enough talent to be a second round playoff team and they readily disassembled that for Rennie to bring in his own guys, who have been terrible. Kenny Miller is somehow considered a revelation this year, but he has to be one of the worst DP strikers I have seen come through this league. He's like a Mista the coach is sandbagged to because it's his guy.

edit: of course Kenny Miller would win MLS POTW right after I post this :facepalm:

Stouffville_RPB
06-19-2013, 10:48 AM
Since the rumored deal for Frei feel through the Union have signed sign Oka Nikolov formerly of Eintract Frankfurt
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/06/19/philadelphia-union-ink-veteran-bundesliga-goalkeeper-oka-nikolov-provide-men

Derko
06-25-2013, 05:34 AM
We sure can use him! BTW: DC United has 4 Canadian players on their roster (probably all of them are starters as well). Since when Washington D.C. turned into a Canadian city? lol

War of 1812 perhaps. :hump:

West220Side
07-08-2013, 04:32 PM
I don't know how many people check this thread, I'm tempted to post it in the Toronto section just to get more of an opinion but...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yewzbhF9a0k#at=47

Apparently was a record goal scorer for Northwestern University, never got an MLS contract now he's some sort of accountant. Think this will catch the eyes of any MLS scouts? g:D

reggie
07-08-2013, 04:47 PM
the second coming of weedman...

[NBF]
07-15-2013, 05:49 PM
Vancouver's Caleb Clarke is out on loan to FC Augsburg, same team as Marcel DeJong. Positive things going on in Vancouver. Surprisingly, not a single player has made the jump to the senior team since Stuart Neely left TFCA. Does anyone think he was responsible for the success of Morgan, Cordon, Henry, Attakora, Stinson, Makubuya, Lindsay, and Roberts?

ag futbol
07-15-2013, 08:41 PM
^ As far as I know, the reviews on Neely were mixed. He wasn't setting the world on fire, but wasn't a bad coach either. Darren Bent gets a lot of credit for that early development push as well.

We got a little bit lucky at the start in that Henry, Morgan, and Lindsay were all physically ready to jump straight to the MLS level. Football wise, they still had a lot to learn, but in the academy's defense, they weren't with the team long.

barticusz
07-18-2013, 10:28 AM
Success of Morgan, Cordon, Attakora, Stinson, Makubuya, Lindsay, Roberts??? All of the bolded are nowhere to be found aside from Attakora who's trying to play in SJ still. Roberts may be the only one that lasts because he doesn't ever get to play with the first team. Everyone know's the book on the Morgan and he is continuously exposed at the MLS level. All of these players need playing time elsewhere to improve and should never have been brought up.

Vancouver is at least loaning their players looking to get them that opportunity.

In unrelated news, FCD has signed Mauro Diaz from River Plate. Young winger I believe, not really a goalscorer but he has decent assist totals.

Yohan
07-22-2013, 07:03 PM
http://www.impactmontreal.com/en/news/2013/07/montreal-impact-negotiations-hernan-bernardello

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hern%C3%A1n_Bernardello

mowe
07-22-2013, 08:35 PM
^ I LOVE how they have a picture of Messi on their home page with the caption Argentine midfielder will meet with team officials this week. Cheeky bastards.

[NBF]
07-22-2013, 11:27 PM
El Salvador National Team member and attacking midfielder, Jaime Alas, on loan from Rosenborg to San Jose Earthquakes until the end of December. Good player.

Whoop
07-23-2013, 02:18 PM
Montreal signs Hernan Bernardello as a DP.

Benficachop20
07-23-2013, 03:22 PM
Success of Morgan, Cordon, Attakora, Stinson, Makubuya, Lindsay, Roberts??? All of the bolded are nowhere to be found aside from Attakora who's trying to play in SJ still. Roberts may be the only one that lasts because he doesn't ever get to play with the first team. Everyone know's the book on the Morgan and he is continuously exposed at the MLS level. All of these players need playing time elsewhere to improve and should never have been brought up.

Vancouver is at least loaning their players looking to get them that opportunity.

In unrelated news, FCD has signed Mauro Diaz from River Plate. Young winger I believe, not really a goalscorer but he has decent assist totals.

Lindsay is playing in the csl for Burlington SC. As for the others, i have no idea. I remember TFC talking about helping youngsters find new clubs and bla bla bla, looks like they aren't doing anything, which isn't surprising.

T-boy
07-23-2013, 09:43 PM
This one is strange - ex Oxford full back Damien Batt tweets that he's going to playing for the Whitecaps?!:

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/oxfordunited/10564537.Vancouver_next_stop_for_Batt_/

I saw him play a number of times for Oxford. He was inconsistent, I would say (and that's at Conference and League 2 level). His crossing was consistently bad (he always makes th wrong decision, either playing the ball far too short or overhitting crosses, a bit like Asthone Morgan does regularly).

Haddy
07-24-2013, 12:12 PM
The little brother of Shaun Wright-Phillips has signed with RBNY.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/07/24/new-york-red-bulls-sign-forward-bradley-wright-phillips

TFC1154ever
07-25-2013, 10:45 AM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/07/25/colorado-rapids-have-panamanian-youngster-gabriel-torres-sights-franchises-f

Wow, great pick up by the Rapids if true.

barticusz
07-26-2013, 09:56 AM
Montreal has signed for Wigan Athletic defender Adrian Lopez Rodriguez. He's only 26!!! I thought the requirement was 32+ to play on that back line?

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/07/26/montreal-impact-sign-spanish-center-back-adrian-lopez-rodriguez

dantdot
08-02-2013, 05:26 PM
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1512434/clint-dempsey-join-seattle-sounders-tottenham-sources-say?cc=5901

Dempsey to the Sounders has legs

v00d00daddy
08-02-2013, 05:54 PM
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1512434/clint-dempsey-join-seattle-sounders-tottenham-sources-say?cc=5901

Dempsey to the Sounders has legs

Galcarep just tweeted that the deal is being finalized. He's a good player. It'll be good for the league. The more talent, the better.

BuSaPuNk
08-02-2013, 07:15 PM
Doesn't Dempsey have to go through allocation?

Detroit_TFC
08-02-2013, 07:30 PM
Doesn't Dempsey have to go through allocation?

Apparently if the player is coming in as a DP and no other team has rights or discovery claims, then it doesn't go through allocation process. Difference with Herc Gomez when there was talk of him going to Seattle was that KC still holds his rights.

Rulez - MLS has em'

BuSaPuNk
08-02-2013, 07:36 PM
Isn't the allocation order a discover claim? Isn't that the whole point of the allocation process?

notthesun
08-02-2013, 07:49 PM
From the rules:

"The allocation ranking is the mechanism used to determine which MLS club has first priority to acquire a U.S. National Team player who signs with MLS after playing abroad, or a former MLS player who returns to the League after having gone to a club abroad for a transfer fee. The allocation rankings may also be used in the event two or more clubs file a request for the same player on the same day when the discovery period opens in December. The allocations will be ranked in reverse order of finish for the 2012 season, taking playoff performance into account."

Dempsey is a U.S. national. He should be acquired in accordance with the allocation order according to the rules. Same process as when we signed Agbossoumonde through the allocation order when we were first. In this case, Portland should have first dibs.

I'm hearing rumors and unsourced comments that the above rule for U.S. nationals doesn't apply when the player joining MLS is being given a D.P. contract. But that's nowhere in the league rules and has never even been mentioned before today. It's pretty simple, Garber wants Dempsey to go to Seattle so he's making it happen.

jabbronies
08-02-2013, 08:21 PM
From the rules:

"The allocation ranking is the mechanism used to determine which MLS club has first priority to acquire a U.S. National Team player who signs with MLS after playing abroad, or a former MLS player who returns to the League after having gone to a club abroad for a transfer fee. The allocation rankings may also be used in the event two or more clubs file a request for the same player on the same day when the discovery period opens in December. The allocations will be ranked in reverse order of finish for the 2012 season, taking playoff performance into account."

Dempsey is a U.S. national. He should be acquired in accordance with the allocation order according to the rules. Same process as when we signed Agbossoumonde through the allocation order when we were first. In this case, Portland should have first dibs.

I'm hearing rumors and unsourced comments that the above rule for U.S. nationals doesn't apply when the player joining MLS is being given a D.P. contract. But that's nowhere in the league rules and has never even been mentioned before today. It's pretty simple, Garber wants Dempsey to go to Seattle so he's making it happen.

Are you sure Dempsy isn't the one who wants to go to Seattle?
either way, you are right, Garber is making this happen, as he should. If a player of that caliber wants to come to this league, then you do what you can to make it happen, even if it means re-writting the rules.

Detroit_TFC
08-02-2013, 08:30 PM
If the numbers I'm seeing are true, they are astronomical for MLS. $9 million transfer fee and $8 million a year salary for 4 years. Only a few owners can pull off a transaction like that (MLSE one of them?) so obviously the transfer rules are going to get finessed. The question is did the Timbers get compensated for what would have been their pick in the allocation.

BuSaPuNk
08-02-2013, 10:07 PM
^ if they didn't or don't I think we need to start rallying against this.

The comish has no right to make these desisions. Fuck at that rate we might as not play any games and just have him hand pick the final.

Yohan
08-02-2013, 10:21 PM
^ if they didn't or don't I think we need to start rallying against this.

The comish has no right to make these desisions. Fuck at that rate we might as not play any games and just have him hand pick the final.you're assuming that it is indeed Garber making this decision.

there are so many unknown rules (and stuff gets made up on the fly without press release)... for all we know, this American DP rule might actually be part of original DP rule

but yeah, lack of full disclosure of rules are annoying

PopePouri
08-02-2013, 10:41 PM
I think this is a landmark signing for MLS. Beckham contributed to MLS 2.0. This is 3.0 where we are competing with top league clubs for acquisitions in their prime with a big transfer fees.

Yohan
08-02-2013, 10:44 PM
Dempsey transfer fee rumoured at 9 mil and 4 yr contract at 8 mil/yr
Serious dosh

Red CB Toronto
08-02-2013, 10:50 PM
And to think Clint could be making his Sounders debut at BMO Field next Saturday night. On a real note this type of signing is a real game changer for the MLS. Bringing home a USMNT star in his prime from a top 5 league is huge.

tfcocd
08-02-2013, 11:09 PM
And to think Clint could be making his Sounders debut at BMO Field next Saturday night. On a real note this type of signing is a real game changer for the MLS. Bringing home a USMNT star in his prime from a top 5 league is huge.

Guess when the league does not show in the champions league final four they can no longer be assured of top 4 status. :)

jazzy
08-02-2013, 11:35 PM
And to think Clint could be making his Sounders debut at BMO Field next Saturday night. On a real note this type of signing is a real game changer for the MLS. Bringing home a USMNT star in his prime from a top 5 league is huge.

no way it'll be like Beckham...Dempsey's papers won't get the ok till a day after Seattles game here and he'll debut in some important american city...:(..this is the our life.

Detroit_TFC
08-03-2013, 01:47 PM
Good bit of business by SSFC. Gives those 45K people coming to games a solid reason to re-up after a relatively poor season so far.

It may encourage higher spending by the owners who can do it, so we may see some more players in top leagues willing to consider playing in MLS.

MLS is increasingly thinking about the next tv contract negotiations, that's at the root of the expansion movement I think. It may push expansion of DP slots or a change to some other method of regulating top level, market rate player contracts. Since the tv ratings have been shit, MLS needs to show some other good reasons to demand the kind of money MLS wants to get.

Yohan
08-03-2013, 02:43 PM
^ if they didn't or don't I think we need to start rallying against this.

The comish has no right to make these desisions. Fuck at that rate we might as not play any games and just have him hand pick the final.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/wp/2013/08/03/closer-look-at-clint-dempseys-move-to-seattle/

Hrm. Goff thinks Seattle is #2 in allocation order

BuSaPuNk
08-03-2013, 02:54 PM
^ yeah Seattle is 2nd in allocation. But Portland is #1. There's no way Portland would say no and allow Seattle to grab him.

andmat
08-03-2013, 05:22 PM
The allocation process is a ranking order similar to a draft order for those players who come to MLS outside the MLS Super Draft, who are not 'discovered' or who are not Designated Players. Generally, similar to the Draft order, the allocation order is based on a ranking of the previous year's performance. The most recent example of a player joining MLS through the allocation process was the signing of Carlos Bocanegra by Chivas USA. Toronto FC was first on the allocation ranking order and therefore Chivas had to make a trade with Toronto to acquire his rights.

He is a DP so he can sign with any team

andmat
08-03-2013, 05:53 PM
The allocation process is a ranking order similar to a draft order for those players who come to MLS outside the MLS Super Draft, who are not 'discovered' or who are not Designated Players. Generally, similar to the Draft order, the allocation order is based on a ranking of the previous year's performance. The most recent example of a player joining MLS through the allocation process was the signing of Carlos Bocanegra by Chivas USA. Toronto FC was first on the allocation ranking order and therefore Chivas had to make a trade with Toronto to acquire his rights.

He is a DP so he can sign with any team

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/08/03/major-league-soccer-issues-statement-usmnt-allocation-process

That explains why he does not have to go to the Allocation process

BuSaPuNk
08-03-2013, 06:15 PM
^ besides a the explanation that was just released. I would like to see in the MLS rules where is says that. It doesn't. It doesn't say anything about DPs don't have to go through the allocation.

BuSaPuNk
08-03-2013, 06:17 PM
"The allocation ranking is the mechanism used to determine which MLS club has first priority to acquire a U.S. National Team player who signs with MLS after playing abroad, or a former MLS player who returns to the League after having gone to a club abroad for a transfer fee. The allocation rankings may also be used in the event two or more clubs file a request for the same player on the same day when the discovery period opens in December. The allocations will be ranked in reverse order of finish for the 2012 season, taking playoff performance into account.

Once the club uses its allocation ranking to acquire a player, it drops to the bottom of the list. A ranking can be traded, provided that part of the compensation received in return is the other club’s ranking. At all times, each club is assigned one ranking. The rankings reset at the end of each MLS League season."


Taken from the MLS site. Where does it say DP?

Alonso
08-03-2013, 06:57 PM
"The allocation ranking is the mechanism used to determine which MLS club has first priority to acquire a U.S. National Team player who signs with MLS after playing abroad, or a former MLS player who returns to the League after having gone to a club abroad for a transfer fee. The allocation rankings may also be used in the event two or more clubs file a request for the same player on the same day when the discovery period opens in December. The allocations will be ranked in reverse order of finish for the 2012 season, taking playoff performance into account.

Once the club uses its allocation ranking to acquire a player, it drops to the bottom of the list. A ranking can be traded, provided that part of the compensation received in return is the other club’s ranking. At all times, each club is assigned one ranking. The rankings reset at the end of each MLS League season."


Taken from the MLS site. Where does it say DP?



We all know they are making up the rules as they go along...

Stop acting surprised.

Richard
08-03-2013, 07:01 PM
Yeah its about the closest legal thing you can get to match fixing, still very bush league. As the popularity of the league grows more people should start demanding the full disclosure of rules and the "Magic Money Rule" in particular. I suspect if that day comes allocation money will be phased out till then.

Alonso
08-03-2013, 07:16 PM
This is more akin to a television soap opera then to a sports league.

They seem to play the markets and reword/offer "favours" where necessary.

We've had our fair share: Lewieke, De Rosario, and Payne to name a few (maybe getting Hassli off the books?). Plus if we end up with 4 DP's this year that would also seem like a rub in our favour since we would be the first to take advantage.

I guess the point is that we will never know about any of it.

There is no transparency, the league does as it sees fit, for the benefit of the league? (this is a question, notice the question mark please)

BuSaPuNk
08-03-2013, 07:17 PM
We all know they are making up the rules as they go along...

Stop acting surprised.

I'm not surprised. I'm frustrated.

You have a comish that says he wants to be one of the top leagues by 2020. Can't be a top leauge with back room deals and rules made for interpretation.

ag futbol
08-03-2013, 07:39 PM
This is more akin to a television soap opera then to a sports league.

They seem to play the markets and reword/offer "favours" where necessary.

We've had our fair share: Lewieke, De Rosario, and Payne to name a few (maybe getting Hassli off the books?). Plus if we end up with 4 DP's this year that would also seem like a rub in our favour since we would be the first to take advantage.

I guess the point is that we will never know about any of it.

There is no transparency, the league does as it sees fit, for the benefit of the league? (this is a question, notice the question mark please)
Let's not forget a delayed graduation for Frei from generation adidas as well. That more or less gifted us 150k in cap space that was entirely undeserved. By every definition of the rules he should have graduated but we received special consideration.

Let's face it, we're one of the clubs who can use things like this to our advantage. Previously, we just did a really poor job of it.

Haddy
08-03-2013, 09:37 PM
Seattle has officially announced Dempsey as its latest DP acquisition.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/08/03/seattle-sounders-announce-usmnts-clint-dempsey-newest-designated-player

According to the article, he's expected to debut in one week at BMO Field.

Oldtimer
08-03-2013, 10:14 PM
A small correction: the Commish does not decide the funny money rules, it's the Competition Committee that does that. Another thing is that the rules are clear, although complicated. It's just that many of the details aren't shared with us, supposedly to avoid giving too much information to player agents.

ensco
08-04-2013, 08:32 AM
A small correction: the Commish does not decide the funny money rules, it's the Competition Committee that does that. Another thing is that the rules are clear, although complicated. It's just that many of the details aren't shared with us, supposedly to avoid giving too much information to player agents.

Cmon be real. Whatever the motives may be, MLS rules are not clear. Where is the capgeek for MLS? There isn't one, because nobody knows the real picture.

Undisclosed allocation amounts, buried transfer fees, selling guys to unknown Ukrainian teams, discovery processes for all returning Americans, unless they're Clint Dempsey... there is a long list of stuff that, complicated or not, the league does not disclose, and has enormous discretionary power over.

I note MLS are going out of their way to not discuss exactly which method Seattle used to acquire Dempsey's rights.

OgtheDim
08-04-2013, 10:19 AM
....I note MLS are going out of their way to not discuss exactly which method Seattle used to acquire Dempsey's rights.

To be fair, if there is no allocation process, there are no rights to acquire - its a transfer.

ensco
08-04-2013, 02:04 PM
To be fair, if there is no allocation process, there are no rights to acquire - its a transfer.

Not so. Dempsey had to come in via discovery or allocation. There is a limit of how many names can be on the discovery list (6 I think). Each team's list of players on the discovery list is itself a scret. But the rule is that players returning to MLS must go through allocation. Unless it's Dempsey I guess.

AlanO
08-04-2013, 05:59 PM
Didn't really know where to put this.. but Dempsey's contract might be causing a problem.


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Detroit_TFC
08-05-2013, 12:57 PM
Hold on to your hats. Dempsey's short list of MLS teams he was willing to go to was Seattle, LA and Toronto, according to Grant Wahl.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130805/clint-dempsey-seattle-sounders-mls/

edit: probably more a function of who could afford his salary. Will be interesting to see if KP corroborates that story or not. Seems like it would have been the big star signing that Tim Leiweke is dying to make.

pekduck
08-05-2013, 01:00 PM
Not so. Dempsey had to come in via discovery or allocation. There is a limit of how many names can be on the discovery list (6 I think). Each team's list of players on the discovery list is itself a scret. But the rule is that players returning to MLS must go through allocation. Unless it's Dempsey I guess.

DP bypasses that rule.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130805/clint-dempsey-seattle-sounders-mls/



While most MLS owners appear to be happy that Dempsey has joined the league, not all of them were satisfied with the process in which Seattle got him. "The league wanted Dempsey in Seattle," said one rival league executive. Some MLS owners were confused by the mechanism of Dempsey's arrival, thinking that like other returning U.S. national team players, he would be part of the allocation process. (Seattle rival Portland is No. 1 on the allocation list.)
But the league emphasized that Designated Players do not go through the allocation process, citing Claudio Reyna's DP move to New York in 2006 as the precedent.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130805/clint-dempsey-seattle-sounders-mls/#ixzz2b7QB175F

OgtheDim
08-05-2013, 01:27 PM
Allocation of returning domestics players seems more something to be traded then used.

ensco
08-05-2013, 06:54 PM
DP bypasses that rule.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130805/clint-dempsey-seattle-sounders-mls/

Hang on. Look at II (A).


http://www.mlssoccer.com/2012-mls-roster-rules


The allocation process is for USMNT players returning to MLS. Which Bocanegra was, Dempsey is, Reyna was not.


They are reverse engineering a hosejob.

Yohan
08-05-2013, 07:00 PM
Hang on. Look at II (A).


http://www.mlssoccer.com/2012-mls-roster-rules


The allocation process is for USMNT players returning to MLS. Which Bocanegra was, Dempsey is, Reyna was not.


They are reverse engineering a hosejob.
apparently acquiring a player through DP mechanism trumps any other mechanism

ensco
08-05-2013, 07:15 PM
apparently acquiring a player through DP mechanism trumps any other mechanism

Show me a document published prior to today that says that. That's all I'm saying.

pekduck
08-05-2013, 07:15 PM
Hang on. Look at II (A).


http://www.mlssoccer.com/2012-mls-roster-rules


The allocation process is for USMNT players returning to MLS. Which Bocanegra was, Dempsey is, Reyna was not.


They are reverse engineering a hosejob.

Bocanegra is not a DP, DP is like a trump card in a made up card game that is single entity league MLS... they sign with the league...

but yes, i get you, no argument there... it's like telling the accountant what you want your statement look like and have it made to look like it lol

PopePouri
08-06-2013, 04:19 PM
Alex Lopez looks like he's off to Houston. Fair if we have Laba and Urruti as young DPs.

Total MLS ‏@TotalMLS (https://twitter.com/TotalMLS)7m (https://twitter.com/TotalMLS/status/364855546337181697)
Reports: Honduran midfielder Alexander Lopez is transferring from Olimpia to Houston Dynamo. Lopez is 21 years old and has 3 caps. #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash)

TFC07
08-06-2013, 04:27 PM
Alex Lopez looks like he's off to Houston. Fair if we have Laba and Urruti as young DPs.

Total MLS ‏@TotalMLS (https://twitter.com/TotalMLS)7m (https://twitter.com/TotalMLS/status/364855546337181697)
Reports: Honduran midfielder Alexander Lopez is transferring from Olimpia to Houston Dynamo. Lopez is 21 years old and has 3 caps. #MLS (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLS&src=hash)

I called it in speculation thread. He wasn't coming to Toronto and that Houston were front runners to sign him. :)

cincy
08-09-2013, 08:15 AM
Colorado signs (F) Gabriel Torres (Panama) as DP

OgtheDim
08-09-2013, 08:51 AM
Colorado signs (F) Gabriel Torres (Panama) as DP

Now there is a team that is going somewhere.

OgtheDim
08-09-2013, 10:36 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/09/juan-agudelo-stoke-city-new-england-revolution

tfcleeds
08-09-2013, 11:07 AM
Looks like MLS is becoming Stoke City's feeder league. :p

Richard
08-28-2013, 07:25 PM
So Donovan signs a new long term deal, weird. Link (http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/08/28/jeff-bradley-la-galaxys-landon-donovan-still-has-plenty-prove-mls)

Brooker
08-29-2013, 03:45 PM
I wish he would just fuckoff already.

The wheels on the bus.....

Yohan
10-23-2013, 10:59 AM
https://twitter.com/SoccerInsider/status/392769202731626496

Schalke and USMNT M Jermaine Jones exploring MLS options for winter

Detroit_TFC
10-28-2013, 01:10 PM
Looks like Joel Lindpere won't be staying in Chicago.

http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/leagues/mls2.php?article_id=35506

Haddy
10-30-2013, 10:03 AM
DC declined three contract options today...

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/10/30/dc-united-decline-contract-options-carlos-ruiz-lionard-pajoy-and-marcelo-sar

notthesun
10-30-2013, 05:42 PM
Steven Goff reporting D.C. is declining De Rosario's option and that he's already cleaned out his locker.

In before DeRo to TFC speculation goes wild.

Mr. Bigby
10-30-2013, 08:13 PM
Steven Goff reporting D.C. is declining De Rosario's option and that he's already cleaned out his locker.

In before DeRo to TFC speculation goes wild.

Too bad, so sad, but that ship sailed long ago. DeRo coming back as an aging prima donna who's lost a step (or two) would be one of the few reasons why I would NOT renew my season's tickets.

sashavukelich
10-31-2013, 11:44 AM
I'd take DeRO back at the right price. He's better than Braun and Weeds and could be a super sub (at a reasonable wage if possible), and he's the MLS Vet kinda guys they were talking about.....just a thought. it'd be an interesting move regardless.

Lindpere i'd consider. surely over Lambe's international spot....can't wait to release that kid.

Haddy
11-20-2013, 11:54 AM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/11/20/juan-agudelos-work-permit-denied-effectively-ending-move-epls-stoke-city?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=News&utm_campaign=Unpaid

Juan Agudelo's work permit to play at Stoke City has been denied.

Yohan
11-20-2013, 11:59 AM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/11/20/juan-agudelos-work-permit-denied-effectively-ending-move-epls-stoke-city?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=News&utm_campaign=Unpaid

Juan Agudelo's work permit to play at Stoke City has been denied.
get him. Agudelo is worth the cost

MartinUtd
11-21-2013, 11:22 AM
Evans resigns with Seattle. Scratch him off the target list

http://www.soundersfc.com/News/Articles/2013/11-November/Sounders-FC-Signs-Brad-Evans.aspx

Dreadlocks
11-29-2013, 02:36 PM
Joe Cole to Dallas or Chicago.

http://www.clubcall.com/west-ham-united/cole-wanted-in-us-1670626.html?

Red I
12-06-2013, 02:55 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/12/06/report-norwegian-side-rosenborg-contact-vancouver-whitecaps-about-camilo-san

Rosenborg been keeping tabs on Camillo... wonder if a move overseas puts a dent in the "Camillo for Canada" discussion.

Haddy
12-06-2013, 03:16 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/12/06/report-norwegian-side-rosenborg-contact-vancouver-whitecaps-about-camilo-san

Rosenborg been keeping tabs on Camillo... wonder if a move overseas puts a dent in the "Camillo for Canada" discussion.

Of course it does.

Red I
12-06-2013, 03:28 PM
Of course it does.

Depends on living situation, no? If his family lives here, or he gets citizenship and visits at a certain rate, he can get and maintain citizenship, no?

In any case, i hope he stays with the 'caps then... can't believe i'm saying this!!

Haddy
12-06-2013, 06:15 PM
Depends on living situation, no? If his family lives here, or he gets citizenship and visits at a certain rate, he can get and maintain citizenship, no?

In any case, i hope he stays with the 'caps then... can't believe i'm saying this!!

He has to stay in Canada and accumulate a total of five years of residency to earn his passport as well as qualify under FIFA's guidelines. He's only halfway there right now. If he leaves to another league, or is even traded to a U.S. team, it delays the process that much more. Every day spent outside our border is another day not on the team.

ag futbol
12-11-2013, 01:28 PM
SBI reporting Kreis is officially gone to NYCFC.

Yohan
12-11-2013, 04:33 PM
http://www.dynamotheory.com/2013/11/1/5055234/transfer-target-adam-le-fondre

Reading striker Adam Le Fondre supposedly a target for Houston. He scored 12 goals in EPL last season.

andmat
12-12-2013, 01:42 PM
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NEWS - #Crew96 trades @ChadMarshall14 to @SoundersFC in exchange for allocation money, 3rd Rd. 2015 SuperDraft pick:

Whoop
12-13-2013, 04:50 PM
Not transfer news but reports coming out of Vancouver suggest Carl Robinson is the new head coach.

CoachGT
12-13-2013, 05:03 PM
Dempsey on loan to Fulham.

BuSaPuNk
12-13-2013, 06:13 PM
Dempsey on loan to Fulham.

Just seen that myself too. Not surprising. Expecting alot of the main USMNT players especially there big guns getting loan deals to get some more playing time.

Haddy
12-17-2013, 04:49 PM
Surprised nobody has posted this yet...

DC United has officially acquired Eddie Johnson from Seattle.

Cost = allocation money

http://www.dcunited.com/news/2013/12/dc-united-acquires-eddie-johnson

gdg_9
12-20-2013, 03:49 PM
Ives is reporting that DC has sold Jakovic to a team in Japan for a small fee

Abou Sky
12-20-2013, 03:54 PM
Ives is reporting that DC has sold Jakovic to a team in Japan for a small fee

He is going to be a rock star in Japan!

Yohan
12-21-2013, 07:09 PM
rumours on twitter about Bobby Zamora to Vancouver. possible part exchange with Bryce Alderson to QPR

jazzy
12-22-2013, 12:50 AM
so sporting KC is way ahead of us in partnering with Orlando City and Energy FC , in the USLPRO League.......brilliant way to use their not ready for prime time..looks like they plan on staying ahead of the rest

mowe
12-22-2013, 01:59 AM
rumours on twitter about Bobby Zamora to Vancouver. possible part exchange with Bryce Alderson to QPR

This is now all I think of when I hear Bobby Zamora: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4rIJKivy4

Canary10
01-02-2014, 10:33 AM
What's the story with Camilo leaving Vancouver? They'll be pretty much screwed without his goals.

Phil
01-02-2014, 10:45 AM
Seeing Forlan to Dallas???

Detroit_TFC
01-02-2014, 01:23 PM
Seeing Forlan to Dallas???

I saw that, I chuckled.

AlanO
01-03-2014, 09:50 AM
What's the story with Camilo leaving Vancouver? They'll be pretty much screwed without his goals.

http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=9344273&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sounds like a "Plata is still a TFC player" saga.

Yohan
01-03-2014, 11:50 AM
http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=9344273&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sounds like a "Plata is still a TFC player" saga.
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/03/queretaro-president-says-he-thought-vancouver-whitecaps-star-camilo-was-out-

lulz

SmokedPanda
01-03-2014, 03:40 PM
http://www.rds.ca/soccer/impact/gilardino-dit-non-%C3%A0-l-impact-1.824053

Gilardino turns down the Limpact

Initial B
01-03-2014, 08:59 PM
Hmmm... if he refused a $3 million offer, TFC must have offered him more.

CBTFC
01-03-2014, 09:38 PM
Marco Pappa released from contract by SC Heerenveen in the Eredivisie.

Does Chicago still own his MLS rights?

Yohan
01-03-2014, 09:54 PM
Marco Pappa released from contract by SC Heerenveen in the Eredivisie.

Does Chicago still own his MLS rights?
no

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/03/report-former-chicago-fire-mf-marco-pappa-out-dutch-side-heerenveen-eyeing-r

Canary10
01-06-2014, 01:14 PM
http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=9344273&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sounds like a "Plata is still a TFC player" saga.

Ha ha!! Now it really is Plata over again. That ain't no Vancouver Whitecaps kit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdUJ88xCIAAbWTm.jpg

TFC/Everton
01-06-2014, 01:18 PM
Ha ha!! Now it really is Plata over again. That ain't no Vancouver Whitecaps kit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdUJ88xCIAAbWTm.jpg

Painful for Whitecaps supporters.

Pint
01-06-2014, 01:56 PM
A little painful to those who hoped to see him in a CMNT kit at some point.

Also are the whitecaps still insisting that they hold his ITC because they picked up his option?

notthesun
01-06-2014, 02:14 PM
Whitecaps just tweeted that Camilo is still under contract and they're working with MLS on the matter. Plata all over again, but even worse because it's a transfer, not a loan.

mowe
01-06-2014, 02:34 PM
Camilo's agent really messed up here. He probably didn't understand the concept of a team option and thought he could decline it. But the Caps definitely hold his rights and Camilo will have to go back to Vancouver or a fee will have to be paid. Caps are probably consulting with the league on what legal action to take. This will get messy.

barticusz
01-06-2014, 03:41 PM
What a hilarious situation. This makes MLS look quite bad compared to all the other leagues on this continent. Salary cap needs to be raised so that the league stops losing out on its young talent.

0bl1vious
01-06-2014, 08:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O7PKdxxRIQ

So basically, it sounds like Camilo got royally fucked by his agent who (I assume) misled him either because he didn't understand the MLS contract or as a ploy to get him more money.

Either way, I don't see him coming back to the shitecaps next year. Not after this.

The league will probably try to get as much money out of this situation as possible, but in the end will let him leave.

Richard
01-06-2014, 09:16 PM
I like the openness of that interview, though I'm scratching my head at his comments about the Mexican federation to CSA dialog regarding the contract. Doesn't MLS own all the contracts making the CSA irrelevant?

JamboAl
01-06-2014, 09:35 PM
I like the openness of that interview, though I'm scratching my head at his comments about the Mexican federation to CSA dialog regarding the contract. Doesn't MLS own all the contracts making the CSA irrelevant?

I think this may become a FIFA matter. But not good form by Camilo and/or his agent. I'll back the Whitecaps on this one.

mowe
01-06-2014, 11:19 PM
I like the openness of that interview, though I'm scratching my head at his comments about the Mexican federation to CSA dialog regarding the contract. Doesn't MLS own all the contracts making the CSA irrelevant?

I read somewhere that ITCs have to be signed by both countries' federations.

Yohan
01-07-2014, 09:49 AM
As much as we enjoy a bit of schadenfreude at Caps expense, this is a league problem.

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Camilo+Mexican+jersey+strikes+blow/9357487/story.html

Camilo (and his agent) building a case, using FIFA rulings.

ag futbol
01-07-2014, 11:08 AM
Personally, I don't mind if they go after the league on their contract rules. They've always been heavy handed to a fault and of questionable legality. About time they were called on it.

Red I
01-07-2014, 11:44 AM
Personally, I don't mind if they go after the league on their contract rules. They've always been heavy handed to a fault and of questionable legality. About time they were called on it.

It's not just a question of MLS rules, but would challenge federal labour laws - as a business entity out of Switzerland, this would be an uphill battle for FIFA, and too costly for them in more ways than one. FIFA will uphold MLS' rules, order the mexican team to pay a fee

Alonso
01-07-2014, 12:55 PM
LA Galaxy get a loan for this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Rosa_Gon%C3%A7alves

Article here: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/07/la-galaxy-sign-22-year-old-brazilian-forward-samuel-loan-fluminense

11 goals in 49 appearances and only 22 years old.... not bad.

Canary10
01-07-2014, 12:55 PM
^ Let's hope this guy doesn't do better than Gilberto, or we're going to look a little stupid for the amount of money we spent on him.

Alonso
01-07-2014, 12:59 PM
^ Let's hope this guy doesn't do better than Gilberto, or we're going to look a little stupid for the amount of money we spent on him.


My thoughts exactly.

ag futbol
01-07-2014, 01:46 PM
It's not just a question of MLS rules, but would challenge federal labour laws - as a business entity out of Switzerland, this would be an uphill battle for FIFA, and too costly for them in more ways than one. FIFA will uphold MLS' rules, order the mexican team to pay a fee
I don't think this is about FIFA vs. Federal law, as much as asking if MLS contracts are in compliance or enforceable under either regime.

Red I
01-07-2014, 02:18 PM
I don't think this is about FIFA vs. Federal law, as much as asking if MLS contracts are in compliance or enforceable under either regime.

It's a good point, though - does Bosman rule has supercede the collective barganing agreement of the MLS union? - the Bosman rule is the one that protects/benefits the player more, and may trump it - also, does Bosman rule come into effect if there is an option year left? - It would be massive if FIFA rules against it

0bl1vious
01-07-2014, 02:31 PM
LA Galaxy get a loan for this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Rosa_Gon%C3%A7alves

Article here: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/07/la-galaxy-sign-22-year-old-brazilian-forward-samuel-loan-fluminense

11 goals in 49 appearances and only 22 years old.... not bad.

http://www.lagalaxy.com/news/2014/01/la-galaxy-add-brazilian-forward-samuel-loan

That article says 15 goals in 72 apps...which is mediocre.

Seems like a depth addition.

Richard
01-07-2014, 02:32 PM
Bosman rule kicks in somewhere around 6 months before expiry of a contract, a 1 year option would extend that time but I"m not sure if that would apply since its an EU ruling which has no precedence elsewhere.

Richard
01-07-2014, 02:52 PM
Hang on a second. Did Vancouver just recently exercise the club option on his contract? So they sat on there asses the whole year knowing he is a key player and not extend the contract? Sounds like Vancouver forgot to use the option and Camilo ran straight to Mexico, all around the same time Van exercised the option.

brad
01-07-2014, 03:12 PM
It's not just a question of MLS rules, but would challenge federal labour laws - as a business entity out of Switzerland, this would be an uphill battle for FIFA, and too costly for them in more ways than one. FIFA will uphold MLS' rules, order the mexican team to pay a fee

The potentially interesting twist here that according to the article quoted above, the option stuff is based around the labor laws - but that will be the US labor laws. Camillo will not be governed by those, he will be governed by the Canadian labor laws since he is in Canada. I wonder if there is going to be something overlooked or a grey area in that.

Yohan
01-07-2014, 03:16 PM
Hang on a second. Did Vancouver just recently exercise the club option on his contract? So they sat on there asses the whole year knowing he is a key player and not extend the contract? Sounds like Vancouver forgot to use the option and Camilo ran straight to Mexico, all around the same time Van exercised the option.
Option exercised in Nov

Richard
01-07-2014, 03:33 PM
Option exercised in Nov

Well he better get a new agent hah.

gdg_9
01-07-2014, 04:25 PM
Marvin Chavez traded from SJ to COL for Atiba Harris.


Too bad... I wanted to see TFC make a move for Chavez after he asked for a trade from SJ.
I think he would have looked great opposite Rey on the other wing.
He also has domestic status, and had a pretty reasonable cap hit (175k last season).

Red I
01-07-2014, 04:26 PM
The potentially interesting twist here that according to the article quoted above, the option stuff is based around the labor laws - but that will be the US labor laws. Camillo will not be governed by those, he will be governed by the Canadian labor laws since he is in Canada. I wonder if there is going to be something overlooked or a grey area in that.

Possibly, but I'm sure the labour laws are more protective here of the player, not less; I think you belong to same union anyways

I think if there is an arguement it will be the agent and the Mexican team arguing a Bosman deal was agreed prior to the renewal date of the option, and that the option is not binding under FIFA precedent

spark
01-08-2014, 12:01 PM
http://www.lagalaxy.com/news/2014/01/la-galaxy-add-brazilian-forward-samuel-loan

That article says 15 goals in 72 apps...which is mediocre.

Seems like a depth addition.

The important thing is it's a loan. If he flops, he goes home. If Gilberto doesn't pan out, we're stuck with him, a DP slot being used, embarrassment, reputation hit (again) etc … IMO way too much risk on that one but we'll see - and LA did it right by going for a loan first. Same thing they did w Juninho, same thing Dallas did with Ferreira etc ...

0bl1vious
01-08-2014, 12:39 PM
The important thing is it's a loan. If he flops, he goes home. If Gilberto doesn't pan out, we're stuck with him, a DP slot being used, embarrassment, reputation hit (again) etc … IMO way too much risk on that one but we'll see - and LA did it right by going for a loan first. Same thing they did w Juninho, same thing Dallas did with Ferreira etc ...

I don't know much about Samuel, but seems like Gilberto has a bit more pedigree, given he was 4th best goal scorer in Brasileiro. On the other hand, Gil was being bounced back and forth on loans for the last few years, so I don't know what that says about him. Personally I think (and hope) he will pan out for us.

Haddy
01-11-2014, 09:01 AM
Rob Friend is being linked with LA Galaxy. This story says deal is already signed.

http://www.tz.de/sport/1860-muenchen/rob-friend-wechsel-tsv-1860-muenchen-los-angeles-galaxy-perfekt-meta-3309038.html

ag futbol
01-11-2014, 03:15 PM
Oscar Pareja is back with FCD.

They are also looking for a DM....

TFC07
01-11-2014, 03:49 PM
Rob Friend is being linked with LA Galaxy. This story says deal is already signed.

http://www.tz.de/sport/1860-muenchen/rob-friend-wechsel-tsv-1860-muenchen-los-angeles-galaxy-perfekt-meta-3309038.html

Both Vancouver and Montreal need forwards. So huge loss for them.

Interesting to see both American and Canadian players coming back home from Europe. Is this new sign?

andmat
01-11-2014, 06:18 PM
Xavi being linked to Red bulls
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calcio-internazionale/87245/ (http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calcio-internazionale/87245/)
Also a Spanish journalist reported this as well.

lobo
01-13-2014, 01:58 AM
Juan Arango @JuanG_Arango (https://twitter.com/JuanG_Arango)

It is being reported by @Diegort_ (https://twitter.com/diegort_) that Camilo Sanvezzo will be made official at @Club_Queretaro (https://twitter.com/Club_Queretaro) tomorrow
12:46 AM - 13 Jan 2014 (https://twitter.com/JuanG_Arango/statuses/422605486119464960)



monday's bloody big deal for the shitecaps?

gdg_9
01-13-2014, 09:38 AM
Crew trade with NER for rights to Parkhurst, then sign him. (As per Official Team Release)


He would have looked good beside Caldwell, or even shifting to RB ahead of Bloom.
Wonder what the Crew gave NER, and how much he signed for?



EDIT: Apparently the Crew gave up their 1st round pick - 4th Overall, plus allocation (as per Steven Goff). The Allocation was about $100k, and Parkhurst's salary is believed to be north of 300k (as per Jeff Carlisle).

At that price, and that salary, wouldn't have made sense for us.

C.Ronaldo
01-13-2014, 09:50 AM
bringing all the americans home to the MLS seems to be the real plan

gdg_9
01-13-2014, 09:58 AM
bringing all the americans home to the MLS seems to be the real plan

Yup...

It makes sense too. It's hard to have real credibility as a league if your own international stars don't see it as a legitimate career option.

C.Ronaldo
01-13-2014, 10:35 AM
well they all had to leave because they refused to make current MLSers DPS.

I hope the hard nosed MLS boys club change their mind on this. Perhaps a new DP spot for americans or MLSers to get promoted to

gdg_9
01-13-2014, 10:41 AM
well they all had to leave because they refused to make current MLSers DPS.

I hope the hard nosed MLS boys club change their mind on this. Perhaps a new DP spot for americans or MLSers to get promoted to

They should have separate Domestic DP (for American and Canadian MNT players) and Import DP designations.
Would allow us to bring a USMNT star like Bradley home to MLS, while not having to give up a valuable young player with tons of potention like Laba.

zamperina
01-13-2014, 01:02 PM
Rob Friend deal confirmed to L.A. Galaxy

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/13/la-galaxy-sign-longtime-european-pro-and-canadian-international-striker-rob-

Fort York Redcoat
01-13-2014, 01:17 PM
Rob Friend deal confirmed to L.A. Galaxy

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/13/la-galaxy-sign-longtime-european-pro-and-canadian-international-striker-rob-

page not found

kodiakTFC
01-13-2014, 01:18 PM
They should have separate Domestic DP (for American and Canadian MNT players) and Import DP designations.
Would allow us to bring a USMNT star like Bradley home to MLS, while not having to give up a valuable young player with tons of potention like Laba.

This is how it works in Australia.

Yohan
01-13-2014, 01:21 PM
This is how it works in Australia.
1 'Marquee' and 1 domestic 'Marquee' player per team and a junior 'Marquee' player (U23) Marquee players are exempt from the cap, and junior Marquee players can be paid 150k AUS above the cap.

C.Ronaldo
01-13-2014, 04:08 PM
Im curious if MLS has a plan for marqee DPs this off season or is the rest of the league really not doing anything big? The rumours out there arent very big, save for xavi, cole and lampard.

Whoop
01-13-2014, 04:13 PM
page not found

Try this.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/13/la-galaxy-sign-longtime-european-pro-and-canadian-international-striker-rob-