TFC 2013 general player moves/speculation/etc.

[OgtheDim]

Serious questions though:




When is the last time Kristian Jack got a scoop?
And, when is the last time this head office let a name slip out, other then Forlan (who was told to everybody and obviously was a planned leak)?

[ginkster88]

He's actually a player I've kept track of through his career. The only thing holding him back from massive success in Europe is his size. His taller peers are among the best in the game.

[miker]

Moralez was excellent in the 2007 tournament. I watched him play twice, including the final, and he was constantly involved in the midfield. Quite the player, stature aside. Head and shoulders technically above the MLS, with quickness to burn. Hard to knock a guy off the ball if you can't find him!

I got to see him a lot during that tournament, too. He won the award for second best player in the cup - behind only Aguero and ahead of people like Alexis Sanchez - and was third leading scorer. Very insistent and creative, as I recall from those games.

[dantdot]

Serious questions though:




When is the last time Kristian Jack got a scoop?
And, when is the last time this head office let a name slip out, other then Forlan (who was told to everybody and obviously was a planned leak)?



Pretty sure KJ was the first to mention Urruti earlier in the year.

[miker]

He's actually a player I've kept track of through his career. The only thing holding him back from massive success in Europe is his size. His taller peers are among the best in the game.

I'd love to have him and I just hope he has some quality to work with up front.

[Ultra & Proud]

If this signing doesn't happen I think it's safe to say the Front Office is just name dropping to generate buzz around the team.
Not always our front office dropping names. Can be from the other side or Italian/Argie reporters too. Everyone automatically thinks our FO is all BS.

[Derko]

:nonod:

He's 32. That's prime playing years for a CD. He's core for the next 2 seasons.

Agreed I'd like to have at least 1 EXPERIENCED player on TFC, whom can teach these young pups the ropes.

[Pigfynn]

I like the age of this guy. If you're going to splash cash and use a DP spot, I like that it's not on an old man. He looks like a very good player and therefore I'm sure TFC won't get that red shirt on him. :( I hope they do though

[Yohan]

Plata disproved the theory that short guys cant play in MLS

[notthesun]

I thought about including Henry in what I consider the core of this team going forward, but for me he's not there yet. All the other guys have proven they can deliver game in and game out. Henry is still a little too raw for me. Ask me again in two years and I can probably give a definitive answer.


Caldwell still has a minimum of two good years left on him, maybe more if we're lucky. I still consider him a key player for us because reaching the playoffs with him is well within his time frame, which is all I really care about for now. He'll still be a rock next year.


As for Maximiliano Moralez, small size only matters when you don't have the skill. This ain't Joao Plata we're talking about. He'd be the best on-the-ball player in our team's history by a mile. Quick, creative, inventive, pretty much what you look for in a CAM.

[miker]

I thought about including Henry in what I consider the core of this team going forward, but for me he's not there yet. All the other guys have proven they can deliver game in and game out. Henry is still a little too raw for me. Ask me again in two years and I can probably give a definitive answer.


Caldwell still has a minimum of two good years left on him, maybe more if we're lucky. I still consider him a key player for us because reaching the playoffs with him is well within his time frame, which is all I really care about for now. He'll still be a rock next year.


As for Maximiliano Moralez, small size only matters when you don't have the skill. This ain't Joao Plata we're talking about. He'd be the best on-the-ball player in our team's history by a mile. Quick, creative, inventive, pretty much what you look for in a CAM.

Watching Plata, I always felt he should have been faster than he was. I liked him as a late sub, but Maxi's several cuts above. He'd be a terrific addition, especially with a quality striker.

[Oldtimer]

An exclusive PM scouting report!



:lol:

Thanks for posting these. I wasn't familiar with him but you see a lot of Amado-like creativity but also great finishing and Plata-like one-on-ones. He would tear MLS defenses apart.

[jazzy]

DP signing? Wow, I guess signing big name was too much a task. I guess we will have to wait next year after World Cup to get our big name DP that Tim Leiweke wants.

he, ( or someone of his ilk,) is exactly the type of player we need...young and creative , who needs an over the hill big name .......cause no one else will come here. It's not LA or NY. just think an exciting team wow......and couldn't hurt with South American fans. How much do prices go up with mr. big name drawing in tourists, getting drunk and not caring about the game, also.

[jazzy]

too small for a physical league like this. garbage

Then you hated Plata?....Moralez is far superior, and Earnshaws such a giant......I doubt anyone who plays in serie A, is garbage..lol

[Milanista]

I don't know much about this kid, but i can assure you Atalanta have some of the best youth systems in all of Italy. They know talent and if they thought something of him, their is def talent there....maybe just not enough for serie a?

[jazzy]

And he's played at BMO before at the U20. Interesting. We'll see.

I remember him and complete Argentinian team they were dominant! silver MVP.....ugh Laba and him teaming up , oh mercy.

[v00d00daddy]

Hearing people say that his strengths are skill on the ball and vision makes me happy. I hope for two things:

1-He is all that he seems and more
2-We actually sign him or somebody with the same skill set

[vince93]

Before we all get to excited why would a player of his ilk want to come to MLS let alone TFC?

[ginkster88]

Before we all get to excited why would a player of his ilk want to come to MLS let alone TFC?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[vince93]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is found all over the world

[Pigfynn]

They will pay him more. More than he would get elsewhere. Or they will try to.

[ginkster88]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is found all over the world

Not exactly in Italy or Spain or Portugal or really any league where a diminutive Argentine would thrive.

[vince93]

a diminutive Argentine that did thrive in italy was Maradona?

[ginkster88]

a diminutive Argentine that did thrive in italy was Maradona?

What? There's only a few countries where Moralez makes sense (Spain, Portugal, Italy). All of them have extremely poor economies, that MLSE could easily outspend.

[barticusz]

How exciting is it that we are being linked to players like Moralez? A 26 year old AM with skill to burn. We may have sucked for 7 straight years but things are looking up for MLS as a whole.

[djking2]

Am I the only one disappointed to hear about the attempt to sign Brockie. I find it reminiscent of past choices. Nelsen can't see past the obvious bias and he's quickly becoming Barrett 2.0

[jloome]

Caldwell is an old man. He probably be on decline by end of next year. I think there will more better signings in the future. Young and talented kids with upside to build a core with our current young players.

He's 32.

[jloome]

Am I the only one disappointed to hear about the attempt to sign Brockie. I find it reminiscent of past choices. Nelsen can't see past the obvious bias and he's quickly becoming Barrett 2.0

Couldn't disagree more.

[Couchy81]

Am I the only one disappointed to hear about the attempt to sign Brockie. I find it reminiscent of past choices. Nelsen can't see past the obvious bias and he's quickly becoming Barrett 2.0

Brockie is pretty much the only reason Wellington scored any goals last season, he has the ability I just don't think he is completely comfortable here yet, especially with a work in progress team. I think he would work next year.

[jloome]

http://jumbossellout.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/kleenex.jpg ?

LOL. His words stung so much.

[djking2]

Couldn't disagree more.

I'm trying to keep an open mind. Let me ask why

[Morlesio14]

over confidence is a sin

[SKB]

Am I the only one disappointed to hear about the attempt to sign Brockie. I find it reminiscent of past choices. Nelsen can't see past the obvious bias and he's quickly becoming Barrett 2.0

I can't believe they are considering him long term. He has no touch, has not scored one header and can't finish to save his soul. What's not to hate. The only thing I learned is the Australian league must be pretty crappy if he is one of the top scorers?

[SKB]

Kristian Jack ‏@KristianJack (https://twitter.com/KristianJack)1m (https://twitter.com/KristianJack/status/363369905149968384)
Multiple sources tell me Toronto FC are working very hard to land Argentine Maximiliano Moralez from Atalanta to be their next DP. #tfc (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23tfc&src=hash)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximiliano_Moralez

Payne came out strong on Urutti today is that a smoke screen and his real target is Moralez?

[Richard]

All I know is this team better not be scrambling in getting players by the start of next season, we better have out core group going into next year.

[shwade]

Payne came out strong on Urutti today is that a smoke screen and his real target is Moralez?

We can get both of them. One is an attacking midfielder and the other a striker.
Just read that Urruti wouldn't be on a DP contract.

[ginkster88]

The only thing I learned is the Australian league must be pretty crappy if he is one of the top scorers?

I've thought this as well... Might explain del Piero.

[v00d00daddy]

We can get both of them. One is an attacking midfielder and the other a striker. Maybe we buy out Koev's contract since he's injured and get his DP spot. Or maybe we use up all that allocation $$ to trade for an extra spot?

According to Molinaro, Payne is saying that Urruit would NOT be a DP


Toronto currently has two DPs on its roster in Dutch forward Danny Koevermans and Argentine midfielder Matias Laba. Payne confirmed that Urruti, if signed, would not count as a DP, and that TFC currently has two international roster spots available.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/payne...-of-dp-urruti/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/payne-tfc-in-hot-pursuit-of-dp-urruti/)

[Benficachop20]

Am I the only one disappointed to hear about the attempt to sign Brockie. I find it reminiscent of past choices. Nelsen can't see past the obvious bias and he's quickly becoming Barrett 2.0

I'm with ya. All he does is run around a lot, everything else isn't great at all, and as u said a Barrett 2.0. Would like to think we can find better players, but then again it's TFC

[Yohan]

I'm with ya. All he does is run around a lot, everything else isn't great at all, and as u said a Barrett 2.0. Would like to think we can find better players, but then again it's TFC
any player who made Nesta look like a chump has skills IMO. it is frustrating to see Brockie miss some quality chances, but he's right now the only striker who can consistently offer link up play with midfield. (you did see his assist for Osorio's goal last week...) he also has predatory instinct, being at the right place at the right time, something you can't really teach a striker. plus he can cross

he reminds me of another late bloomer... named Wondolowski. with consistent playing time, plus better team chemistry (and let's face it, TFC is not a team that creates a lot of chances), I think Brockie has potential to be a good striker in MLS

[69Chevy396]

I've thought this as well... Might explain del Piero.
....that he is one of the greatest players of the past twenty years, one of the very best free kick specialists, a world cup winner? Had he not signed wih the Ausi team he could have chosen any one of a dozen elite Euro clubs, including Roma, a team that dismantled the mls no-stars.

[Haddy]

According to Molinaro, Payne is saying that Urruit would NOT be a DP



http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/payne...-of-dp-urruti/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/payne-tfc-in-hot-pursuit-of-dp-urruti/)

I'm not concerned about this year's salary considering the time left. What about next season?

[SKB]

How exciting is it that we are being linked to players like Moralez? A 26 year old AM with skill to burn. We may have sucked for 7 straight years but things are looking up for MLS as a whole.

I just looked up Moralez stats and his performance dropped off dramatically. In the previous 2 years around 8 goals and 6 assists per year. This year 1 goal and 2 assists. Will his size be an issue in MLS?

[Marc"2L"]

Urruti must be coming and it's just stuff with his club not realizing the rule allowing the buy out of the last year.

Otherwise, why would payne name him, and then mention that "we don't talk about other players".

[markie8002000]

Someone in London just posted this minutes ago and said this so we'll see... : Rumour: Toronto FC of the MLS is close to signing Atalanta'a Maximiliano Moralez

[[NBF]]

Someone in London just posted this minutes ago and said this so we'll see... : Rumour: Toronto FC of the MLS is close to signing Atalanta'a Maximiliano Moralez

DAAAAMN!

That signing is worth $2 million. Shit yeah!

[PopePouri]

César Luis Merlo @ CLMerlo (https://twitter.com/CLMerlo)10m (https://twitter.com/CLMerlo/status/363460450240827393)
Urruti Maxi travels on Monday to join the Toronto MLS. Although he is a one year contract with Newell's, it is free.

This is getting reported from a journalist in Argentina.

[notthesun]

Just happened to do a twitter search for "Urruti" at the same time as some South American journalist tweeted some stuff about him. He's got 14 000 followers (https://twitter.com/CLMerlo) so he seems legit. Here are some poorly google translated tweets:

"Maxi Urruti, which is in conflict with Newell's, next week will have a new club. The issue is to be as "free." There mess door"

"Urruti Maxi travels on Monday to join the Toronto MLS. Although he is a one year contract with Newell's, it is free."

"Urruti had agreement with Toronto in the last tournament. The pass had closed at $ s 1.3M, but as NOB going up, not let him go."

"As # Newell's understands that it is not at fault and that the player is under contract until 2014, has been a long novel by Maxi Urruti."

So we've got a supposed date. And I don't know if this is a translation error, but he seems to be saying we're getting him on a free even though he has a year left on his contract?

Multiple tweets on this coming in per minute right now if anyone wants to follow it.

[Marc"2L"]

I feel like I've learned a ton of Spanish this transfer window.

[OgtheDim]

Moralez and Urruti.


I'm thinking 4-1-3-2 if that happens. Still a BIG if though.

[Stress]

So we've got a supposed date. And I don't know if this is a translation error, but he seems to be saying we're getting him on a free even though he has a year left on his contract?

Multiple tweets on this coming in per minute right now if anyone wants to follow it.[/QUOTE]


From what I understand, his agent (or himself) has to buy out his last year of the contract in order to push through another deal. I expect TFC will then actually end up paying that amount (+ maybe a premium) instead of an actual transfer fee.

[Couchy81]

maybe by free they mean fee

[CBTFC]

I'm playing latin house tracks, drinking, and smokin' the funny stuff...do we have forlan, drogba and kaka yet?

[vince93]

I'm thinking a 3-5-2 formation as Juventus, and Napoli play

[miker]

I'm playing latin house tracks, drinking, and smokin' the funny stuff...do we have forlan, drogba and kaka yet?

At the rate you're going, we'll have them soon :o

[Marc"2L"]

There was a good post about the rule that allows him to buy out the contract, basically it stems from the fact that he could be making more but they don't want to compensate him, tried to make a move and they held on. The reasoning seems like, if you can make more in 3 months and have enough to pay off the crap contract your on, then you're free to go.

They're sort of mad about it
"Urruti, sinAliento sorete. No merecés haber conformado este equipo histórico de NOB. Que te vaya para el ojete en ese fútbol de mierda."

translation gives me something about a turd, "historic NOB" and playing in a "shit hole"

[Stress]

yeah hopefully any dealings don't sour TFC's image in South America and make it more difficult for us in the future.

[OgtheDim]

I'm thinking a 3-5-2 formation as Juventus, and Napoli play

Given your avatar, you wouldn't be a bit biased in that judgement would you? :)

[PopePouri]

Given that Nelson likes 2 DMs, It'll mostly be a 4-4-1-1 with Rey and Convey on the wings.

[ag futbol]

I'm not concerned about this year's salary considering the time left. What about next season?
If that's the case, I would think we are probably buying it down to reduce the cap hit this year, then next year he'd be given a DP slot. I don't think there is any way he would earn less than mid hundreds. If he's eager to get here and had offers from other reputable clubs, it might be a heck of a lot more interesting than that.

BTW, if their anger is any indication of how good this guy is, I am very happy.

[Blizzard]

I'm thinking a 3-5-2 formation as Juventus, and Napoli play

Can we see Nelsen using that formation?

[Morlesio14]

I'm playing latin house tracks, drinking, and smokin' the funny stuff...do we have forlan, drogba and kaka yet?

EDM/house music ftw. were signing like 12 guys named maximiliano though

[OgtheDim]

I don't think he's as tied to the 2 DM's as much as people think. In the second half on Saturday, we played with Laba and Osorio in the middle. I do think he's tied to 4 at the back though.

[Blizzard]

Given that Nelson likes 2 DMs, It'll mostly be a 4-4-1-1 with Rey and Convey on the wings.

That is what worries me. I want a diamond mid with a true #10 behind two strikers but Nelsen doesn't seem to want to do that. Will he if he has the horses???

[vince93]

in Saturdays game he replaced Morgan with lamb leaving Cadwell, Henrey, and Ecks at the back

[OgtheDim]

Actually, he replaced Morgan with Rey and then sat Lambe back in as a RWB; once it became obvious Columbus was not going to attack down that wing, Lambe pushed forward. But Lambe was the RB.

He replaced Hall with Lambe at half time, moving Osorio to the middle and Lambe to the right.

After 75, it was an unbalanced attack because Columbus threatened with Odouro.

[shwade]

Finally going to be getting the South American flavour that so many have been longing for since day 1.

[barticusz]

I'm very nervous about these potential signings. They just sound so great that I don't want to let myself expect them to happen. Work your magic Payne.. get this done!!

[69Chevy396]

Someone in London just posted this minutes ago and said this so we'll see... : Rumour: Toronto FC of the MLS is close to signing Atalanta'a Maximiliano Moralez
Would he represent the first ever Serie A player to leave Italy for MLS while still in his prime? I find this rumour difficult to believe.

[Couchy81]

I'm very nervous about these potential signings. They just sound so great that I don't want to let myself expect them to happen. Work your magic Payne.. get this done!!

I have hope, the oldest player we've had on the verge of potentially being a legit signing was Forlan, so these younger talents from respectable clubs/leagues are music to my ears. I don't want to hear about anyone with running problems due to age or overflowing bank accounts

[aptone]

""Urruti, sinAliento sorete. No merecés haber conformado este equipo histórico de NOB. Que te vaya para el ojete en ese fútbol de mierda."


It doesn't mean that. It means considerably worse than that.

I think we should take it as a good sign that a NOB fan would be this displeased with our potential acquisition. Let's get the Argentine triangle started. Anybody think we should ask if Hernan Crespo wants to kick a ball around? just sayin'...

[PopePouri]

""Urruti, sinAliento sorete. No merecés haber conformado este equipo histórico de NOB. Que te vaya para el ojete en ese fútbol de mierda."


It doesn't mean that. It means considerably worse than that.

I think we should take it as a good sign that a NOB fan would be this displeased with our potential acquisition. Let's get the Argentine triangle started. Anybody think we should ask if Hernan Crespo wants to kick a ball around? just sayin'...

I've been monitoring the word Urruti on and off on Twitter and it's been piss and moan the entire time from NOB fans. That's probably a good thing.

[Marc"2L"]

I'm convinced we have an agreement in place pending a physical for Max Urruti.

[jloome]

I'm convinced we have an agreement in place pending a physical for Max Urruti.

Yeah, I think it's evident. Payne's talking publicly, his agent has bought out half his contract. Today's Payne quotes were his way of ratcheting up the "we got him!" factor.

Be interesting to see who the second player is.

[mowe]

If Urruti signs as a non-DP I think we can all agree that stockpiled allocation money got put to good use.

[Corpand]

Would he represent the first ever Serie A player to leave Italy for MLS while still in his prime? I find this rumour difficult to believe.

Believe me, money works wonders.

[boozilla]

yeah hopefully any dealings don't sour TFC's image in South America and make it more difficult for us in the future.
It's business. The pathetic Canadian need for approval and fear of offending does not apply. Sorry, eh?

[nonc]

Am I the only one disappointed to hear about the attempt to sign Brockie. I find it reminiscent of past choices. Nelsen can't see past the obvious bias and he's quickly becoming Barrett 2.0


I'm with ya. All he does is run around a lot, everything else isn't great at all, and as u said a Barrett 2.0. Would like to think we can find better players, but then again it's TFC


any player who made Nesta look like a chump has skills IMO. it is frustrating to see Brockie miss some quality chances, but he's right now the only striker who can consistently offer link up play with midfield. (you did see his assist for Osorio's goal last week...) he also has predatory instinct, being at the right place at the right time, something you can't really teach a striker. plus he can cross

he reminds me of another late bloomer... named Wondolowski. with consistent playing time, plus better team chemistry (and let's face it, TFC is not a team that creates a lot of chances), I think Brockie has potential to be a good striker in MLS

Brockie is one of the reasons TFC have not been bad to the level of DC. New team and league, has been playing with a revolving door of ill-equipped forwards or alone, most recently Braun who can do nothing for him. Very limited time with the injured Earnshaw and Koevermans, imagine the horror show without him of Braun and Weideman for most of the season. It seems like every TFC goal is key but his goal and 3 assists have been of utmost importance each one has saved a game. Hold the Chivas miss against him if you want but he's still coming out on top. He's exactly the type of player you want with a South American finisher because he will challenge for headers, be a distracting physical thorn and look to distribute before anything else. The fact that he can distribute as a central striker says something about his overall game. No doubt more goals would come with improved surroundings but he's still playing good. Earnshaw with a DP finisher seems like oil and water.

[Abou Sky]

I'm thinking a 3-5-2 formation as Juventus, and Napoli play

What would you guess the lineup in that formation?

I agree on 4-1-3-2 but would be interested to hear about 3-5-2

[nonc]

It's business. The pathetic Canadian need for approval and fear of offending does not apply. Sorry, eh?

hear hear! acquire talent, disregard all else.

[Abou Sky]

I'm convinced we have an agreement in place pending a physical for Max Urruti.

The kid is 22, they want to measure his dick or something?

[ag futbol]

It's business. The pathetic Canadian need for approval and fear of offending does not apply. Sorry, eh?
Well to a certain degree it's still important to keep a good image. Some rumblings out there that we payed the price for incidents like McBride where we strong-armed MLS teams.

That being said, in south america market, I think you go in with your elbows up.

[khso11]

He would tear MLS defenses apart.

Hahahahahaha gold

[Marc"2L"]

The kid is 22, they want to measure his dick or something?
Pretty standard stuff, medical might of saved the life of one of our draft picks.

[David_Oliveira]

Pretty standard stuff, medical might of saved the life of one of our draft picks.

I remember that. A kid with lots of promise comes out of university gets to Toronto, does his medical and finds out he's got a bad ticker.

[PopePouri]

It's business. The pathetic Canadian need for approval and fear of offending does not apply. Sorry, eh?

Well they dicked us around with the Urruti deal in April so they offended us first.

[Oldtimer]

Finally going to be getting the South American flavour that so many have been longing for since day 1.

Don't get ahead of things, so much can go wrong during a negotiation, it isn't done until you see the player holding up the jersey.

That being said, it's clear that Payne is going with the South American flavour that I so loved with D.C., and is an important element in how he built winning teams. It stopped working with D.C.' s old ownership in the post-DP era because they didn't have the cash, however under Leiweke TFC will have all the cash that it needs to build a winner, and Payne is the guy who can do it. Actually, at this point I'd be happy to have a team that's just not an embarrassment. :p

Now we are starting to get a Payne team: Latin flavour with some other influences, managed well under the cap, young but with enough experience so that there is knowledge-transfer going on. Leiweke will make Payne get a "big name DP" for marketing purposes, but the rest of the team will be up to him. I'm sure that Kevin will put a lot of effort to ensure that the "big name DP" still has skills to compete and the right character.

[ManUtd4ever]

Well, it certainly appears as though 2 of the 3 players that Payne alluded to last weekend have now been identified. Urruti and Moralez would be quite the coup this transfer window if everything falls into place. There is also a mystery DP that might be announced shortly who could join the club in January.

Exciting times.

[miker]

Well, it certainly appears as though 2 of the 3 players that Payne alluded to last weekend have now been identified. Urruti and Moralez would be quite the coup this transfer window if everything falls into place. There is also a mystery DP that might be announced shortly who could join the club in January.

Exciting times.


Lots of IFs here, but ... my sense is that Payne was basically talking before about a youth DP and a bigger name - Forlan or someone of that ilk - coming in January. But things changed, the big name fell apart and Urruti became available again. The way it works now, Urruti comes in as non-DP and becomes youth DP next year (if still eligible) and they get Moralez as their star DP. So nobody comes in January but we have Laba, Moralez and Urruti as our DPs.

[gate7]

....and santa??

[miker]

....and santa??

Coming in December.

[markie8002000]

There was a real long interview done about Urruti half was posted on twitter but all of it was on facebook page... In the interview it said this : Urruti in NOB not follow. Today is very close to Toronto in MLS. In NOB not let him go just like that porq you have 1 year contract. Full interview is here

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Yo-tambien-amo-a-Newells-Old-Boys/416437925049826

[Richard]

Don't get ahead of things, so much can go wrong during a negotiation, it isn't done until you see the player holding up the jersey.

That being said, it's clear that Payne is going with the South American flavour that I so loved with D.C., and is an important element in how he built winning teams. It stopped working with D.C.' s old ownership in the post-DP era because they didn't have the cash, however under Leiweke TFC will have all the cash that it needs to build a winner, and Payne is the guy who can do it. Actually, at this point I'd be happy to have a team that's just not an embarrassment. :p

Now we are starting to get a Payne team: Latin flavour with some other influences, managed well under the cap, young but with enough experience so that there is knowledge-transfer going on. Leiweke will make Payne get a "big name DP" for marketing purposes, but the rest of the team will be up to him. I'm sure that Kevin will put a lot of effort to ensure that the "big name DP" still has skills to compete and the right character.

I have no doubt Payne will get the players we need as he has the resources to do so. Now its up to Nelson to prove why Payne hired him, lets hope he is up to the task.

[Greg]

Attempting to translate more from the twitter account here: https://twitter.com/SellodeFutbol

Appears to be Juan Jose Urruti, Max's father I guess and seemingly his agent:

"If Maxi is someone in football is Newells, but it is also true that it was never recognized."

"The problem is between institutions, between Newells and Sacred Heart."

"I know him very well respected Nestor and do not want to talk."

"It hurts that people badmouth Maxi when not Newells did nothing wrong."

"I have great confidence in his representative".

"Maxi never send a telegram to Newells".

"It pains me to speak ill of Maxi because I never did anything to harm Newells".

"Maxi today presented training as every day, but the situation changed and it is not against NOB Maxi."

"We are very pleased with the institution".

"I have understood that Newell had to pay a fee and therefore do not pay this."

"I'm shocked, I'm in Cordoba and knew that it had to train but now I found out that no".

[markie8002000]

A 3rd report out now that Urruti will going to Toronto FC instead of Monday hes coming Tuesday... https://twitter.com/emaquix

[Ivy]

A 3rd report out now that Urruti will going to Toronto FC instead of Monday hes coming Tuesday... https://twitter.com/emaquix
@MLSTransfers: “@emaquix: #TFC: [CONFIRMED] Former #Newells MAXI URRUTI will join @TorontoFC. Argentine striker travelling to Canada on TUESDAY" Big grab

[dantdot]

Looks pretty legit. That's a reporter for the official spanish MLS site.

[Detroit_TFC]

Getting to the dotted line with Urruti would help the team on the pitch for sure but would also give me confidence that KP can produce big as well as talking big.

[BuSaPuNk]

It's nice too hopefully see this all come to an end. Urutti vs Dempsey

[markie8002000]

@MLSTransfers: “@emaquix: #TFC: [CONFIRMED] Former #Newells MAXI URRUTI will join @TorontoFC. Argentine striker travelling to Canada on TUESDAY" Big grab

That guy just tweeted to someone Urruti's family confirmed his travel...

[Stress]

It's nice too hopefully see this all come to an end. Urutti vs Dempsey


Yeah, hopefully they both get settled quickly and make their debuts at BMO. That would be quite the night and definitely high exposure league wide. Would love to see TFC spoil Dempsey's return.

[OgtheDim]

Travelling Tuesday, shirt held up Wednesday.

IF this happens, I suspect Urutti would come on as a sub against Seattle and Columbus and start only in DC. His form must be pre season.

[TFC1154ever]

This would be a huge signing. Any news on Moralez? Seen him play for Atalanta the last 2 years. He was very good last year, with some rumors of him going to a big club, but he had a bit of a let down season last year numbers wise. He is class thou. No doubt about it! These 2 signings would improve this team dramatically!

[elironico]

Travelling Tuesday, shirt held up Wednesday.

IF this happens, I suspect Urutti would come on as a sub against Seattle and Columbus and start only in DC. His form must be pre season.

NOB were playing in the Copa Lib 'til three weeks ago.

[OgtheDim]

NOB were playing in the Copa Lib 'til three weeks ago.

According to http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/maximiliano-urruti/leistungsdaten/spieler_193781.html , he was subbed on 5 times for a total of 46 minutes. His longest stretch was 23 minutes back in April. His last 3 times on were less then 5 minutes. (He missed in the penalty shoot out against Boca Juniors.)

He's not going to be in form.

[Pint]

Have we figured out who is going to Pearson on Tuesday to confirm his landing?

[Red CB Toronto]

Saturday night could be a big one at BMO for sure. Uruti could debut along with Dempsey, would be fun to see.

[ManUtd4ever]

I love it when a plan comes together...:stogey:

[Huyton]

Maybe Urruti plays against Roma?

[jloome]

According to http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/maximiliano-urruti/leistungsdaten/spieler_193781.html , he was subbed on 5 times for a total of 46 minutes. His longest stretch was 23 minutes back in April. His last 3 times on were less then 5 minutes. (He missed in the penalty shoot out against Boca Juniors.)

He's not going to be in form.

NOB fans are mostly mad it seems because he's seen as a hot prospect. He's projected as someone who could be starting a year or two from now.That probably translates to a decent MLS standard, although Payne has had a few S. American signings crap out in the past.

[markie8002000]

Just for info purposes Maximiliano Moralez has 2 goals in last 3 friendly games for Atalanta thats if we sign him...

[nonc]

Maybe Urruti plays against Roma?

I would hope so, then you could maybe get 60 out of him vs. Sounders.

[markie8002000]

A report in Argentina saying Newells could bring Urruti to court and I translated article http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pagina12.com.ar%2Fdiario%2Fsupl ementos%2Frosario%2F&act=url

[JuliquE]

Maximiliano Moralez and Maximiliano Urruti would make for a great offense. Turning to the MAX!
After these two, we'll be signing Maximiliano Power, next. g:D

[Auzzy]

A report in Argentina saying Newells could bring Urruti to court and I translated article http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pagina12.com.ar%2Fdiario%2Fsupl ementos%2Frosario%2F&act=url

Looks like he may have leprosy, we should proceed with utmost caution. LOL Google Translate.

[OgtheDim]

So we can, if he signs with TFC, expect his ITC to take awhile.

That court discussion is likely just posturing for the fans. They are ticked he is leaving without the compensation they think they are due, but no way they want him back now.

He's definatly going somewhere.

[flatpicker]

Nothing is ever easy in TFC land.

[markie8002000]

So we can, if he signs with TFC, expect his ITC to take awhile.

That court discussion is likely just posturing for the fans. They are ticked he is leaving without the compensation they think they are due, but no way they want him back now.

He's definatly going somewhere.

Newells may get compensation after according to this article http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lacapital.com.ar%2Fed_impresa%2 F2013%2F8%2Fedicion_1728%2Fcontenidos%2Fnoticia_54 47.html&act=url

[Marc"2L"]

I doubt it, MLSE would of had their lawyers look into this hard before telling his agent to buy out the contract, NOB just has no idea of the rules I bet and are about to learn the hard way. They're doing everything they can to come across as the victim when they missed a payment.

If I was MLSE, I would just write a cheque for 100000$ and say take it or leave it, they're broke. What can they say? No, we would rather lose in court and have nothing?

[OgtheDim]

Past history has shown to trust accounts out of South America with as much faith as I do stuff out of the Uk version of the SUN and Daily Mail.

People are talking, given their view on things - agents, media hacks for NOB, all sorts.

Reality - it will all be about the $.

[mcolvy]

Anyone have Steve Zakuani still on their radar? The kid was gold until he got his leg broken in half. With Dempsey and a team full of talent Seattle might look to drop him in need of some signing in the back. Even at full health he probably would be riding the bench.

Rosales, Evans, Alonso, Martins, Johnson, Dempsey. Holly geez.
Three US internationals and one who everyone wants to see on the national team...

[markie8002000]

Here are two highlight packs from youtube on Urruti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CVh8hBMJJg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY5FP8hXSJc

[[NBF]]

IDK, about you guys but it seems like we're heading towards the same road we were on with Paul Mariner. Its an awful lot of money we're spending on just 2 players. Other teams usually wait until the player is available on free to make their move and even then its usually a house hold name, who is reliable on the pitch.

Urruti, might be good enough for a Div.1 team in Argentina, but that was on a team of equal talent players or better that compliment each other. TFC is hardly even a team in the league they're in.

Just doubts i guess.:facepalm:

[West220Side]

;1606246']IDK, about you guys but it seems like we're heading towards the same road we were on with Paul Mariner. Its an awful lot of money we're spending on just 2 players. Other teams usually wait until the player is available on free to make their move and even then its usually a house hold name, who is reliable on the pitch.

Urruti, might be good enough for a Div.1 team in Argentina, but that was on a team of equal talent players or better that compliment each other. TFC is hardly even a team in the league they're in.

Just doubts i guess.:facepalm:

Don't take this as anything offensive or one of these fella's on this board always trying to start a fight! But its just my opinion that MLS is growing, and we are one of the clubs moving with the times. You like all of us are just shaken by so many management outfits before who have betrayed(?) us and now its hard to trust, but we need to put our faith in the new group of guys the likes of Tim Lieweke, Kevin Payne, Ryan Nelsen, Pat Onstad, and all the other guys who have been shipped into our front office.

As for "other clubs" who wait until players are free agents Urruti is wanted by the likes of River Plate, and Pumas, he's not of the calibre or quality of an older guy like an Henry or Keane who can come in cheap, or on a free. Just look at Clint Dempsey, he's a great player Everton wanted him, Sounders paid something like $9 million for him?

So I just think these players require a fee, and could be very entertaining for us going forward into the future, and could be VERY good for us next year when they start to gel properly. Matias Laba, Maximilliano Urruti and whos the other Maximilliano? Heard he's a good little midfielder, and he's playing in Serie A wanted by other club as well.

Maybe i'm wrong, but it just seems we're not forking out "unnecessary" money its very much necessary because these players are of a higher quality. And I trust that the management team is doing the proper scouting, etc to guarantee these players perform and if they dont? We'll get some money for them when we ship them out.

My only worry is off the pitch with these guys. Ryan Nelsen might be more ambitious then the club and end up leaving? Tim Lieweke and Kevin Payne clearly have different flavors in players, he wants the big shirt selling name and the brand but Kevin Payne wants the quality to perform in the league and win titles, that could be trouble? What happens if trouble brews in TFC land and one of our management members leave, how do you replace them? Then the team gets juggled, and we take a step backwards, but I guess that happens all the time in MLS.

[shwade]

His old club is just gonna draw out the process as long as they can. And he won't be able to play for us while it's all going on right?

[Still Kicking]

Very wise West220Side, wise beyond your years? There I said it...

Good points on your worry regarding leadership.
First of all having your front office staff attractive to other teams is part of being a successful team. We have never had that, it will be one of a thousand adjustments (should that day ever arrive).
Payne is 60 years old. He is in his first year in the job, but this must be his MLS swan song. Should Lieweke want another Manager or quarrel with Payne's approach then Payne will gave way. I think that Lieweke has been smart to say that he won't evaluate his TFC leadership until after the season.
Nelsen is a different story. If TFC rises in quality he will be a coach in demand, with an international reputation...

[moralis]

From the videos I have seen Urruti's more a secondary striker. Wont' create much on his own, but finishes well at net and scores on breakaways. TFC need to complement him with a primary striker. Don't know if Forlan is that type of player.

Who would you guys consider a primary striker in MLS or European football? For MLS maybe Robbie Keane or Thierry Henry.

[West220Side]

Very wise West220Side, wise beyond your years? There I said it...

Good points on your worry regarding leadership.
First of all having your front office staff attractive to other teams is part of being a successful team. We have never had that, it will be one of a thousand adjustments (should that day ever arrive).
Payne is 60 years old. He is in his first year in the job, but this must be his MLS swan song. Should Lieweke want another Manager or quarrel with Payne's approach then Payne will gave way. I think that Lieweke has been smart to say that he won't evaluate his TFC leadership until after the season.
Nelsen is a different story. If TFC rises in quality he will be a coach in demand, with an international reputation...

Some day I can see Nelsen returning to England but that day is far away. He's learning on the job, sometimes at TFC's expense, I hope in the off season he takes a nice vacation to some hardcore coaching classes, can only better him.

[West220Side]

From the videos I have seen Urruti's more a secondary striker. Wont' create much on his own, but finishes well at net and scores on breakaways. TFC need to complement him with a primary striker. Don't know if Forlan is that type of player.

Who would you guys consider a primary striker in MLS or European football? For MLS maybe Robbie Keane or Thierry Henry.

Bring it down a few levels, lets cross out European Football because once a few young talented kids come in, and these designated players we'll be smart I think and shop around inside MLS once we have our "core" group unless that "European" player is from the Championship of England, definitely wont be a .. "Marquee" striker? You know what I mean?

I'm gonna keep Braun on our side, along with Wiedeman neither are solutions for any problems at the forward position but provide great MLS quality depth (especially Braun in my opinion) and maybe we'll shop around for an american striker, big guy, like a Kenny Cooper I always liked him, this completely goes against what I just said but if you're into "flare" you could probably squeeze Camilo away from Vancouver next season, or the one after for Al Location and a young Canadian player.

25% likelyhood you could tempt Mike Magee away from Chicago next season if you show some ambition in the league he'd come, but isn't Chicago his home town? He's a Wondolowski minus the caps. I know he's said he wouldnt want to play here before but Conor Casey is a big boy, old, cheap, and probably would go into that free agent MLS deal soon enough. Atiba Harris is from St Kitts but is enjoying a good season with the Rapids.

Take your pick, its all fantasy, but I would prefer a MLS proven goal scorer, who counts as a domestic, a dirty guy to clean up for our "flare" players. All that dribbling and step over stuff is nice, and attracts fans, and is beautiful to watch but you always need a tough guy around to score the goals that dont end up on highlight reels.

[69Chevy396]

After these two, we'll be signing Maximiliano Power, next. g:D
Then Maxwell Smart

[Dreadlocks]

Then Maxwell Smart

How about Max Headroom??!

YouTube for those who were born post '85ish.

http://youtu.be/IzxHDqUz8Sk

http://youtu.be/_KlfcpUfQCk

[NolbertoS]

So is the Urutti signing "official" yet or a rumour?? I've visited various NOB forums and saw that it seems Urutti has rescinded his contract last week, since NOB failed to fullfill there contractual obligations with him, therefore leaving him as a free agent. Maybe that's the reason why Payne and Lieweke could easily bypass the club to hire Urruti without fear of being penalized and give him a huge salary to entice him to play here?? So far all sites say he's not coming back and NOB are going to appeal to AFA that they are due for compensation. Hmm...we'll see the Urutti saga continue :)

[markie8002000]

So is the Urutti signing "official" yet or a rumour?? I've visited various NOB forums and saw that it seems Urutti has rescinded his contract last week, since NOB failed to fullfill there contractual obligations with him, therefore leaving him as a free agent. Maybe that's the reason why Payne and Lieweke could easily bypass the club to hire Urruti without fear of being penalized and give him a huge salary to entice him to play here?? So far all sites say he's not coming back and NOB are going to appeal to AFA that they are due for compensation. Hmm...we'll see the Urutti saga continue :)

He is suppose to land in Toronto sometime on Tuesday so we'll see what happens in next few days

[Ivy]

So is the Urutti signing "official" yet or a rumour?? I've visited various NOB forums and saw that it seems Urutti has rescinded his contract last week, since NOB failed to fullfill there contractual obligations with him, therefore leaving him as a free agent. Maybe that's the reason why Payne and Lieweke could easily bypass the club to hire Urruti without fear of being penalized and give him a huge salary to entice him to play here?? So far all sites say he's not coming back and NOB are going to appeal to AFA that they are due for compensation. Hmm...we'll see the Urutti saga continue :)
From what the little voice in my head is telling me, this deal is pretty well done. He was ready to come together with Laba, but Newell dropped out of the deal last second because of their primary striker suffering injury. Ryan and Payne both seemed displeased with NOB at the time, but reiterated that they will continue to pursue Urruti. Now it appears that NoB missed a payment to Urruti, which allowed him to get out of his contract and become a free agent - NOB can dispute that all they want, but this precise matter is written in black and white... They're not going to get anything. I feel like they're causing all this hoopla because they fucked up and are trying to BS their way out of their fans throwing around shenanigans.

[Doucet3]

Anyone know why we dont go after more proven MLS experience talent?, like Rey could have been replaced my Micheal Stephans from LAG, Laba would be nicely paired with Perry Kitchen from DCU which would make an epic youthful Central Midfield for us. another player id like to see with us now that Dempsey and others have joined Seattle is Zakuani?... was rather very talented before his broken leg, still was after just needs some playing time, idk little side thought with all the Urruti Talk

[Oldtimer]

Anyone know why we dont go after more proven MLS experience talent?,

It's not like TFC can just pay out cash in transfer fees like in other leagues. TFC would have to offer something in trade. Unless they need Frei, I can't really see much there that other clubs would want and TFC doesn't need.

[v00d00daddy]

It's not like TFC can just pay out cash in transfer fees like in other leagues. TFC would have to offer something in trade. Unless they need Frei, I can't really see much there that other clubs would want and TFC doesn't need.

We could still be using Silva. And I understand moving him because they're actively looking to upgrade at the position he plays. But we could have used some cover at other positions too.

I thought allocation money we got for him could only be used this year. So.....I really hope we put it to some use.

[Oldtimer]

We could still be using Silva. And I understand moving him because they're actively looking to upgrade at the position he plays. But we could have used some cover at other positions too.

I thought allocation money we got for him could only be used this year. So.....I really hope we put it to some use.

I've seen stuff in the past that suggested that allocation money was good for more than one season, although it expires at some point. * Sigh * one of the problems of everything being so secretive in MLS.

[BuSaPuNk]

I've seen stuff in the past that suggested that allocation money was good for more than one season, although it expires at some point. * Sigh * one of the problems of everything being so secretive in MLS.

It's true I hate all this secretive rules and regulations of the MLS. Seems like they just make it up on the fly.

I think the big part of the allocation from DC was to bring in our DP (Forlan) but it never panned out. I'm thinking if we have it up until next year they will be using it to bring in a DP that's being picked by Tim.

[pdogg]

Or paying down the salary of someone to a non DP level, and then moving them back to DP level next year.

[BuSaPuNk]

True could be done with Urrutis contract.

[v00d00daddy]

Well Kevin Payne is on record saying that Urruti would not be a DP contract so maybe that's where the allocation money went.

Now all they have to do is actually bring in Urruti. LOL

If the allocation money doesn't translate in to somebody in this window the Silva trade will be seen as a big failure to me. They said the offer from DC was so good it couldn't be turned down.

To me, that means that they got more than 100-150k. I'd hope that it hasn't already been used up on the Swiss LB.

Who knows. LOL

[Abou Sky]

As I understand it, how long Al Location is transferred is up to the teams involved.

[Marc"2L"]

Al Location is essentially the most loaned player in the history of the league.

[BuSaPuNk]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130805/clint-dempsey-seattle-sounders-mls

Seems we had a chance to get Dempsey and backed down.

[OgtheDim]

Los Angeles and Toronto were also interested in ponying up for Dempsey, multiple sources said, but Toronto (which is working on its own Designated Player deals) accepted that it was better for the league if Dempsey were playing in a U.S. city.

I think we are going to get something out of this.

And Dempsey named us among his options.

[Pint]

So transfer market closes Thursday.... hopefully our targets get signed earlier in the week rather than later (so they can get a run out on Wednesday and so i'm not checking this site every 9 seconds all week).

[AdamAM]

I think we are going to get something out of this.

And Dempsey named us among his options.





Agreed. Garber's not done giving TFC some under the table help, but he knew that Dempsey moving to an American club would be best for the league. Maybe us giving up on Dempsey nets us a "magical DP Spot" or something of the like?

[Canary10]

Interesting. Puts in perspective the idea that no one wants to play for TFC doesn't it?

[Areathrasher]

Defo good news he considered playing here.

My only worry is that is it was a reluctant wish as he knew we would be one of the few teams capable of paying his salary.

[ginkster88]

Defo good news he considered playing here.

My only worry is that is it was a reluctant wish as he knew we would be one of the few teams capable of paying his salary.

New York wast on his list.

[sully]

I just read on the mls site that toronto turned down the idea of dempsey coming here because as tfc stated it would be better for the league if he wentto an american city. If this is true i an absolutely finished with this circus. Its over.

[pekduck]

I just read on the mls site that toronto turned down the idea of dempsey coming here because as tfc stated it would be better for the league if he wentto an american city. If this is true i an absolutely finished with this circus. Its over.

if you read further, the price tag is 40mil.. seattle ponied up 30 mil, league did another 10...

I'd rather we spend 30 mil on 3 players that can improve this team.

It's a nice and political way of saying the right things to the league.

[Marc"2L"]

Really read that article.

"Toronto accepted that it would be better"
it didn't suggest that it would be better. It had to accept it.

I think when they say those clubs that he "considered" those where the clubs that put up the money. The league decided it was time for Seattle to become a "big club" in terms of signings. Plus they had the money so it worked out.

Toronto might of said sure we'll take him, and may have even offered more money to him, but the league realized that they can do what they want, and so Seattle it is.

[Pint]

I just read on the mls site that toronto turned down the idea of dempsey coming here because as tfc stated it would be better for the league if he wentto an american city. If this is true i an absolutely finished with this circus. Its over.

Did you also read the part about TFC working on signing their own DP's... basically it was something that came up out of the blue. Payne knows the guys he wants to bring in and if he is in advanced negotiations with them why would he change his plan at the last min and ruin those relationships. Dempsey would have been nice but if Urruti is coming tomorrow and the other Maxi Moralez(rumored to be the DP we are after) comes later in the week is not pursuing Dempsey a bad thing?

[OgtheDim]

Dempsey in Toronto would have been fun.

But no way the league lets this go to anybody but a US based team.

And the amount of money they are spending on him, given they have turf, is just bonkers.

[ag futbol]

The thing about Dempsy is, you pay for two things. One portion is what you get for on-field performance, the other portion is what you get out of his image paying for USMNT. TFC is only in a position to compensate him for one of those while an american club is in the position to compensate him for both.

I don't blame TFC for passing at all. Hopefully it earns us some goodwill.

[Marc"2L"]

The thing about Dempsy is, you pay for two things. One portion is what you get for on-field performance, the other portion is what you get out of his image paying for USMNT. TFC is only in a position to compensate him for one of those while an american club is in the position to compensate him for both.

I don't blame TFC for passing at all. Hopefully it earns us some goodwill.

I don't think we passed on him, we got Don'd

[ag futbol]

I don't think we passed on him, we got Don'd
As long as he doesn't stand in our way when we want our own big move I am okay with it.

Eventually this shenanigans of doing everything being the guise of "rules" will have to come to an end though. One day he'll bite off more than he can chew and have a major shit-storm on his hands.

[sully]

A player as good as dempsey was available and they didnt do everything they could to bring him here! Some bullshit about better for the league is just that, bullshit. The club i support should only care about doing everything to have the best players it can. And the league paying part of the transfer fee takes the piss.. if we get 'Don'd' is that any better? If we have to hope the league bequeets us with goodwill well i'm sorry if i put my head in the oven with that one.

[Super]

I can't believe what I'm reading. The LEAGUE paid the transfer fee? WTF?

So I guess that means they'll be paying the transfer fee of our next big signing? Or is there preferential treatment in this league?

Not sure how any of this is acceptable to anyone.

[Marc"2L"]

A player as good as dempsey was available and they didnt do everything they could to bring him here! Some bullshit about better for the league is just that, bullshit. The club i support should only care about doing everything to have the best players it can. And the league paying part of the transfer fee takes the piss..

please read the article again and remember Grant Wahl knows how to drop hints.

In the article it's suggested Toronto had to accept the fact that he was going to Seattle.

I believe, an offer was made in good faith, the offer was comparable to what the other clubs mentioned offered, TFC was willing to play ball to land him, considering we do offer one of the best set ups in the league (much rather show up to work every day at the Kia TG, then some of the other places MLS teams train) and we're told by the league that any increase in offer wouldn't be shown to Dempsey because it was decided he's going to Seattle.

Then Toronto had to accept that fact, because they don't want to hear it, but they get it.

[ag futbol]

A player as good as dempsey was available and they didnt do everything they could to bring him here! Some bullshit about better for the league is just that, bullshit. The club i support should only care about doing everything to have the best players it can. And the league paying part of the transfer fee takes the piss..
But really though... what was the final deal: 9M dollar transfer, 8M dollar a year salary, you think we are going to win that war? with an american club no less?

Is it worth it to TFC to spend that money on Clint Dempsey? Or if you're willing to spend that much cash are there better alternatives? I tend to think the second one holds true.

[AdamAM]

Everyone's forgetting that Garber gave us Payne. I'd much rather have Payne than Dempsey (if Dempsey would even be willing to come to a TFC run by Mariner/Anselmi)

[Super]

Everyone's forgetting that Garber gave us Payne. I'd much rather have Payne than Dempsey (if Dempsey would even be willing to come to a TFC run by Mariner/Anselmi)

Seems wrong that Garber can just sit there and choose who gets what in this league.

[AdamAM]

Seems wrong that Garber can just sit there and choose who gets what in this league.

Following MLS, you just get used to it after awhile :-(

[NolbertoS]

For that much money that Seattle paid for Dempsey, glad TFC got Don'd as I don't Dempsey is worth more than a Henry or Beckham when he was still playing. For that much money, might as well keep going after Forlans, Tevez's or keep raiding the Brasilian league to find another Camilo for TFC. MLS is hyping this deal as if Messi is coming to the league. Dempsey is great but he's not a Top 30 finisher on the world stage let alone a Top 10. Even on thr MLS articles website they're thinking he'll somehow scare the Western Conference, doubt LA, RSL or Van are shaking in there boots.

[JuliquE]

For that much money that Seattle paid for Dempsey, glad TFC got Don'd as I don't Dempsey is worth more than a Henry or Beckham when he was still playing. For that much money, might as well keep going after Forlans, Tevez's or keep raiding the Brasilian league to find another Camilo for TFC. MLS is hyping this deal as if Messi is coming to the league. Dempsey is great but he's not a Top 30 finisher on the world stage let alone a Top 10. Even on thr MLS articles website they're thinking he'll somehow scare the Western Conference, doubt LA, RSL or Van are shaking in there boots.
Exactly my take. I mean, I understand that it's a matter of principle that many are upset about.. but, at the end of the day, this isn't anything new and I won't lose much sleep over it.

[Super]

Exactly my take. I mean, I understand that it's a matter of principle that many are upset about.. but, at the end of the day, this isn't anything new and I won't lose much sleep over it.

No, I won't lose sleep over this. But I respect the league a lot less as a result. Unfortunately now lots of people, players and clubs have a legitimate issue with the league - an issue of fairness and trust. Personally I'm not okay with the league buying a player for another club. That's just never going to be okay.

To me this is a major scandal.

[Detroit_TFC]

I can accept that TFC was on the list due to being able to afford him and not getting him after getting sweettalked/strongarmed by the league. But - knowing what kind of marquee signing Tim Leiweke wants to make, does it seem odd he would pass on this? I just gotta think there was some consideration offered to pass.

[Couchy81]

For that much money that Seattle paid for Dempsey, glad TFC got Don'd as I don't Dempsey is worth more than a Henry or Beckham when he was still playing. For that much money, might as well keep going after Forlans, Tevez's or keep raiding the Brasilian league to find another Camilo for TFC. MLS is hyping this deal as if Messi is coming to the league. Dempsey is great but he's not a Top 30 finisher on the world stage let alone a Top 10. Even on thr MLS articles website they're thinking he'll somehow scare the Western Conference, doubt LA, RSL or Van are shaking in there boots.

Agreed completely.

[Ultra & Proud]

I can accept that TFC was on the list due to being able to afford him and not getting him after getting sweettalked/strongarmed by the league. But - knowing what kind of marquee signing Tim Leiweke wants to make, does it seem odd he would pass on this? I just gotta think there was some consideration offered to pass.
Although I am sure we are getting something from "passing" on Dempsey, I don't think he is big name enough for Leiweke. Dempsey is big news in the States but he isn't a worldwide superstar type. That's what I expect eventually.

[Doucet3]

I agree I think out moneys better spent somewhere else, although it does piss me off that we had that type of talent sitting there and it was just passed up

[TFC07]

I can accept that TFC was on the list due to being able to afford him and not getting him after getting sweettalked/strongarmed by the league. But - knowing what kind of marquee signing Tim Leiweke wants to make, does it seem odd he would pass on this? I just gotta think there was some consideration offered to pass.

He isn't popular in Canada compare to Forlan. I agree withNolbertoS comment that Dempsey isn't worth much for our market. We are trying to get world class player with DP which I except will happen in next summer window (during World Cup). I think Forlan will still come to Toronto when World Cup is over.

[BuSaPuNk]

Dempsey as much as he would help our club isn't a good fit. He's better in a US market. And as some people have said here Tim is going after a worldwide marque name. Dempsey isn't in that converstation.

Yes it BS the leauge hand picks and pushes teams away from Dempsey and basically talked Payne into realizing that it's better for the leauge if he plays in the US. But how is that different then any other deal done?

MLS is a single entity system. It begins and ends with Garber. Even though we all know if MLsE wanted they could outspend the entire leauge 10 fold. We can't. Salary restrictions and Don controlling all contracts hinders that.

I don't like it just like I don't like the secrecy of the rules and salaries. However we know this is how it works, so we can't really complain that much.

All we can do is lobby the leauge to become more transparent and allow us to know the rules. And black and white rules, rosters, salaries, everything. Only then will all of this stop happening. Until then it's status quo.

[shwade]

I can't believe people are actually upset about us not getting Dempsey. I say thank God. At the price Seattle is paying for him? No way. Much rather have Laba and the other young stud they're bringing in.

[Marc"2L"]

I can't believe people are actually upset about us not getting Dempsey. I say thank God. At the price Seattle is paying for him? No way. Much rather have Laba and the other young stud they're bringing in.

Absolutely, the only thing I can think of is that they were thinking this would appease the savvy crowd, but its still not a move I would say, "fits the plan" but this might prove that the plan can change if some pieces come along. The question becomes, is it still a plan then?

Positive: Wahl said "working on DPs" so more than 1
Negative: How much are they going to cost now? Because they'll compare it to Dempsey's pay.

[Detroit_TFC]

Well, it will be interesting to see what happens if TL does finds a top level guy to sign (I am skeptical about this BTW). Will the league chip in? Will they explain why if they don't?

[markie8002000]

This guy Cesar Luis Merlo posted this stuff on twitter in Spanish on Urruti and this what it is from translated version :

1) contracts with NOB Urruti until June 2014. Both Toronto and the player can have economic and sporting sanctions if they sign.


2) warns Toronto on sports injury compensation x since the player left the club the day before the tournament start


3) in addition, considers that would be payable if u $ s 150 000 by formation rights and money you determine x rupture of contract.


4) As mentioned above, # Newell's Toronto asks desist Urruti hiring without having negotiated from club to club rules violation

[BuSaPuNk]

^ I thought all of that was voided with a missed payment by NOB in wages to Urruti?

[Pint]

Ya i don't know what happened but Payne clearly said in his interview this weekend that the contract was terminated.

[Marc"2L"]

They can still litigate and a judge will set them straight.

[dantdot]

Legal action? MLSE can just send some goons and bust some kneecaps.

[NolbertoS]

I just read that. Seems NOB issued a letter to the CSA to intervene on the contract. It could get messy though, but I'm assuming Payne and Lieweke did there homework if the have to present there case to FIFA, as I'm sure CONMEBOL and AFA would want to side with NOB. Bayern Munich did this awhile back in Peru and Chile, when signing with a player without the club's approval. I'm sure Urruti has a lawyer that knows this or he wouldn't have left NOB in a hurry and risk suspension

[Gazza_55]

I can't believe what I'm reading. The LEAGUE paid the transfer fee? WTF?

So I guess that means they'll be paying the transfer fee of our next big signing? Or is there preferential treatment in this league?

Not sure how any of this is acceptable to anyone.

The league SHOULD be paying all the transfer fees for DP's that benefit the entire league. Or all transfer fees period. That way Columbus can have the same opportunity as NYC to sign DP's. Or close to the same opportunity.

This site once was fun. Now the whining is off the charts.

[Richard]

Legal action? MLSE can just send some goons and bust some kneecaps.

Haha just send in Colton Orr.

[T-boy]

I can't believe what I'm reading. The LEAGUE paid the transfer fee? WTF?

So I guess that means they'll be paying the transfer fee of our next big signing? Or is there preferential treatment in this league?

Not sure how any of this is acceptable to anyone.

This is the part that annoys me also - I get that the MLS wants to improve the overall league and want to bring in a premium player, but there's no way the league should be PAYING for any one player to join one individual team, that's no longer a "level playing field" league!

[Dreadlocks]

The league SHOULD be paying all the transfer fees for DP's that benefit the entire league. Or all transfer fees period. That way Columbus can have the same opportunity as NYC to sign DP's. Or close to the same opportunity.

This site once was fun. Now the whining is off the charts.

Totally aggree.....

Is anyone is truly surprised by this? Really? I mean the biggest US star playing in an American league - but on a Canadian team?????

Garber is right - it is better for him to play in the US. I'm 100% Canadian and want TFC to be the best it can be but the health of the league is more important at this point in time and Dempsey playing for TFC does nothing for the league as a whole.

This may look unfair to those not looking past their own nose but it's 100% the right move for the league to make.

Now where are the f-ing DP's we were promised? Can we talk about that please?

[DigzTFC!]

This is the part that annoys me also - I get that the MLS wants to improve the overall league and want to bring in a premium player, but there's no way the league should be PAYING for any one player to join one individual team, that's no longer a "level playing field" league!

Well it depends on how MLS goes about using their new DP rule. The original intent was for MLS to pay the transfer fee for a young up and coming player so that they could resell them. The allocation order would play a part in the distribution of said young dp players. Now if MLS does not have a set the standard that they will pay a transfer fee, it will cause a pretty decisive shift in their conservative approach. I would think the intent is to generate revenue based on merchandise, TV rights etc. instead of selling the player abroad. ie. Replicating the Beckham model.

This could benefit the bigger clubs who have bigger pockets. If MLS is willing to identify brand name players and pay their transfer fees, it would stand to logic that the players' MLS negotiated salaries would large enough that only certain clubs could pay for them. The question now becomes has MLS set the precedent for other acquisitions and are the distribution of those acquisitions based on spending power otherwise it will become a league with severe favoritism.

[notthesun]

It's not about the right move for the league. Everyone knows it's better for the league if Dempsey plays in the U.S.

It's about favoritism. By the league paying out for big money moves of big name players, they play favorites with the biggest teams in the league. Because that's where those players are going. How many times is Columbus going to sign a name as big or bigger than Dempsey? They won't. So on top of already having bigger markets and better stadiums to attract better players, now the Seattles, L.A.s and New Yorks of the league don't even need to spend any extra money to bring them in? So much for parity.

Maybe it's the "right" move for the league to make, but it sure isn't fair. That's unarguable.

[OgtheDim]

I just read that. Seems NOB issued a letter to the CSA to intervene on the contract. ..

Like the CSA is going to go toe to toe with Garber and MLSE over a player from Argentina who wasn't paid..

[glaze]

I think part of the problem is TL told the fans of his grand plans for TFC. Stadium improvements, marquee DPs, and gave an immediate timeline. We're all reading far too much into this Dempsey move. I don't feel he is the marquee name the club is looking for. But since we have yet to make that splash we've been promised, everyone's getting a bit impatient.

[69Chevy396]

I think part of the problem is TL told the fans of his grand plans for TFC. Stadium improvements, marquee DPs, and gave an immediate timeline. We're all reading far too much into this Dempsey move. I don't feel he is the marquee name the club is looking for. But since we have yet to make that splash we've been promised, everyone's getting a bit impatient.
He scored seven goals with Tottenham. Forlan is a better player. Sign Forlan.

[miker]

He scored seven goals with Tottenham. Forlan is a better player. Sign Forlan.

How much interest did we really have in Dempsey? A little feigned interest can gain concessions sometimes.

[jloome]

He scored seven goals with Tottenham. Forlan is a better player. Sign Forlan.

He scored seven in league play, not total. He was their top scorer (or second, I forget) per minutes on the pitch at a point every 118.

[moralis]

It seems Urruti will arrive in Toronto tomorrow:

Mundo Newells ‏@Mundonewells (https://twitter.com/Mundonewells) 6m (https://twitter.com/Mundonewells/status/364540224778420224) #urruti (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23urruti&src=hash) viaja mañana a arrgelar su situación con el Toronto FC

Does anyone know someone who is at the special dinner tonight between TFC and AS Roma. Kevin Payne is there and someone could get info from him. It's a Liberty Group.

https://twitter.com/LibertyGroup

[Detroit_TFC]

I was hoping these fuckers were just going to take their pile of money and let Urruti go. Instead they are going to lock his ITC in the vault and let the lawyers sort it out. Nothing ever goes our way.

[Areathrasher]

What time does the transfer window "slam shut" at on Thursday?

[Masked Man]

I'm sure the marquee DP signing that TFC makes will be of higher stature than Clint Dempsey.....:rolleyes:

[Ivy]

I was hoping these fuckers were just going to take their pile of money and let Urruti go. Instead they are going to lock his ITC in the vault and let the lawyers sort it out. Nothing ever goes our way.
They don't have that much control of people. Like I said earlier, Urruti is excercising his right to become a free agent after he wasn't paid, and NOB is pissed - they're just making noise to appear like the victims.

[Marc"2L"]

They don't have that much control of people. Like I said earlier, Urruti is excercising his right to become a free agent after he wasn't paid, and NOB is pissed - they're just making noise to appear like the victims.


Well, I'm going to go ahead assume we have much, much better lawyers than they do, and that you're right.

[Yohan]

They don't have that much control of people. Like I said earlier, Urruti is excercising his right to become a free agent after he wasn't paid, and NOB is pissed - they're just making noise to appear like the victims.
there was a case with Martin Rivero who was in similar situation as Urruti and his former club was causing interference for him to sign with Colorado. MLS FO intervened and got FIFA to ok Rivero's transfer to Colorado.

[Ivy]

there was a case with Martin Rivero who was in similar situation as Urruti and his former club was causing interference for him to sign with Colorado. MLS FO intervened and got FIFA to ok Rivero's transfer to Colorado.
The same will theoretically happen here. FIFA will see that they missed a payment, and ok the transfer.

[markie8002000]

NOB just sent out a release....

In recent days, different versions have been released regarding the cases of Santiago Urruti Vergini and Maximilian, in relation to its links with the Club Atletico Newell's Old Boys.In that sense, the Club considers it appropriate to report that Santiago Vergini decided not to continue playing in Newell's for strictly personal reasons. The Steering Committee formalized the corresponding proposals to acquire the player's economic rights, exercising the purchase option in a timely manner, with the resources to do so. It is important to remember that when it was decided to renew the loan of Vergini before the season 2012/13, Newell's did not complete the purchase of the pass to use the resources in other players who nested on campus and many results gave the Club. Also Newell's could perform these operations despite tax problems that keeps the player with the club Vergini Phoenix, of Uruguay.
As Maximilian Urruti, the player has in force a contract which subtracts a year of compliance. There is no debt of any kind or with club Urruti or the Sacred Heart. The institution believes that the player is missing its contractual obligation and must report to work under the orders of Major League coaching staff. Should this not happen, Newell's Old Boys will exercise appropriate legal mechanisms to defend their rights.

[Gringo Starr]

Everyone's forgetting that Garber gave us Payne. I'd much rather have Payne than Dempsey (if Dempsey would even be willing to come to a TFC run by Mariner/Anselmi)

I'm kinda wondering if DC getting Silva is partially payback for us getting Payne...nothing in this league is straight forward

[69Chevy396]

He scored seven goals with Tottenham. Forlan is a better player. Sign Forlan.
I suppose it is irelevant now, with a few days before the curtain closes the team will probably give us the customary nothing but excuses.

[Canary10]

He scored seven in league play, not total. He was their top scorer (or second, I forget) per minutes on the pitch at a point every 118.

I really like Clint Dempsey but he was a bit part with Spurs last year. Didn't get a lot of minutes. I can understand why he wasn't in AVB's plans.

I would love him at TFC though. But his value was no doubt way higher in Seattle than Toronto. He wasn't the DP that would get Toronto football fans in the seats. Great player but not the fit for us. I'm very much looking forward to watching him on Saturday though.

[habstfc]

He scored seven in league play, not total. He was their top scorer (or second, I forget) per minutes on the pitch at a point every 118. He was third in goals I believe behind bale and one other I cant think of.

[habstfc]

He scored seven goals with Tottenham. Forlan is a better player. Sign Forlan. Since mls paid for Dempsey transfer maybe they are going to pay forlan transfer fee for us after this year.

[Canary10]

He was third in goals I believe behind bale and one other I cant think of.

Defoe I think.

[habstfc]

Defoe I think. Defoe or adebayor.

[Ivy]

NOB just sent out a release....

In recent days, different versions have been released regarding the cases of Santiago Urruti Vergini and Maximilian, in relation to its links with the Club Atletico Newell's Old Boys.In that sense, the Club considers it appropriate to report that Santiago Vergini decided not to continue playing in Newell's for strictly personal reasons. The Steering Committee formalized the corresponding proposals to acquire the player's economic rights, exercising the purchase option in a timely manner, with the resources to do so. It is important to remember that when it was decided to renew the loan of Vergini before the season 2012/13, Newell's did not complete the purchase of the pass to use the resources in other players who nested on campus and many results gave the Club. Also Newell's could perform these operations despite tax problems that keeps the player with the club Vergini Phoenix, of Uruguay.
As Maximilian Urruti, the player has in force a contract which subtracts a year of compliance. There is no debt of any kind or with club Urruti or the Sacred Heart. The institution believes that the player is missing its contractual obligation and must report to work under the orders of Major League coaching staff. Should this not happen, Newell's Old Boys will exercise appropriate legal mechanisms to defend their rights.
Wtf did they just say?? I need google translator for this.

[Haddy]

Since mls paid for Dempsey transfer maybe they are going to pay forlan transfer fee for us after this year.

Why would they? Forlan's contract runs until June. Get him on a free instead. A transfer fee could get him, or any player in a similar situation, out earlier but at a very reduced price.

One comment on the Dempsey stuff. I'm actually surprised and a bit impressed he even wanted to come here - but at least I know MLS is willing to spend some of those expansion fees it has been hoarding.



...it's my birthday on Wednesday. Sign me a great player and make sure he's flippin' gift-wrapped.

[habstfc]

Why would they? Forlan's contract runs until June. Get him on a free instead. A transfer fee could get him, or any player in a similar situation, out earlier but at a very reduced price.

One comment on the Dempsey stuff. I'm actually surprised and a bit impressed he even wanted to come here - but at least I know MLS is willing to spend some of those expansion fees it has been hoarding.



...it's my birthday on Wednesday. Sign me a great player and make sure he's flippin' gift-wrapped. If TFC are truly interested in forlan I don't think they are going to wait til half way through next season.

[TOBOR !]

Wtf did they just say?? I need google translator for this.

Foreign languages are shit, eh?

I mean, even after you run them through Google Translator they still don't make any sense.

[Ivy]

All I got from that is yaddy yaddy blah blah blah Urruti better show up or we'll send him a letter stating how mad we are blah blah. Give him refugee status and call it a day.

[Phil]

Get the popcorn ready. Fun week ahead!

[BuSaPuNk]

^ another F5 week ahead of us?

[NolbertoS]

NOB just sent out a release....

In recent days, different versions have been released regarding the cases of Santiago Urruti Vergini and Maximilian, in relation to its links with the Club Atletico Newell's Old Boys.In that sense, the Club considers it appropriate to report that Santiago Vergini decided not to continue playing in Newell's for strictly personal reasons. The Steering Committee formalized the corresponding proposals to acquire the player's economic rights, exercising the purchase option in a timely manner, with the resources to do so. It is important to remember that when it was decided to renew the loan of Vergini before the season 2012/13, Newell's did not complete the purchase of the pass to use the resources in other players who nested on campus and many results gave the Club. Also Newell's could perform these operations despite tax problems that keeps the player with the club Vergini Phoenix, of Uruguay.
As Maximilian Urruti, the player has in force a contract which subtracts a year of compliance. There is no debt of any kind or with club Urruti or the Sacred Heart. The institution believes that the player is missing its contractual obligation and must report to work under the orders of Major League coaching staff. Should this not happen, Newell's Old Boys will exercise appropriate legal mechanisms to defend their rights.


Google translate is garbage...

"En cuanto a Maximiliano Urruti, el jugador tiene vigente un contrato laboral al cual le resta un año de cumplimiento. No existe deuda de ningún tipo ni con Urruti ni con el club Sagrado Corazón. La institución considera que el futbolista está faltando a su obligación contractual y que debe presentarse a trabajar bajo la órdenes del cuerpo técnico de primera división. En caso que esto no sucediera, Newell's Old Boys ejercerá los mecanismos legales correspondientes para defender sus derechos."

Therefore, regarding Maximiliano Urruti, the player has a currently labour contract, in which the terms state he has one year to complete. There doesn't exist any debt of any kind, not to Urruti, nor his club Sagrado Corazon. The institution considers that the player is failing his contractual obligations and he should present himself to work under the order of the club staff. In case, this doesn't succeed. Newell's Old Boys will execute it's legal mechanisms corresponding its defense of its rights.

[Marc"2L"]

Get the popcorn ready. Fun week ahead!
Speculation? Or informed suggestion?

[Phil]

Speculation? Or informed suggestion?

Little bit of A, little bit of B. When teams issue statements like this it's going to be dramatic.

[markie8002000]

These are two Moralez articles

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/atalanta-pretendente-a-sorpresa-il-toronto-su-maxi-moralez-471671

http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/calcio/2013/08/03/Bale-Real-Madrid-affare-fatto-mercoledi-Miami-_9114816.html They are just at the end of article


One of the article said TFC are interested in Moralez and two teams will have a meeting soon

[mowe]

Man, I just hope we sign SOMEONE (ideally 2 DPs). I had/have high hopes for this transfer window.

[Marc"2L"]

Little bit of A, little bit of B. When teams issue statements like this it's going to be dramatic.

oh, I was being the ever optimist, thinking you we're talking about adding some one that a tiny bird spoke about. Any info on if NOB have a case? You know, from said bird.

[markie8002000]

We better watch our twitter feeds during practice tomorrow in case they break any news if Payne says anything or Nelsen from whats going on...

[ginkster88]

Moralez would be a massive get.

[Corpand]

That was quite the statement put out by Newell's. Very aggressive. If (and only if) the does have that clause, then the situation gets much easier as this can be brought up to powers higher up than both leagues. This whole bitching contract situation with Arsenal and Suarez over the past week and now this one. Week should def be interesting, especially as Urutti will be on Canadian soil tomorrow afternoon, a move believed completely uncalled for by his old club.

Oh and someone was talking about Silva being a gift to D.C. for giving us Payne. Sort of true. There were multiple takers for Silva, with D.C. actually coming in way later into the picture and someone from TFC management bumping the D.C. trade through while backing off on previous promises.
Risky business, you can burn a lot of bridges that way.

[ginkster88]

As brought up by others, this writes off any further transactions between NOB and TFC; hopefully the rest of the AFA is still available to us.

[Marc"2L"]

As brought up by others, this writes off any further transactions between NOB and TFC; hopefully the rest of the AFA is still available to us.

totally popped into my head as well, imaging what the league is thinking right now!

Of course they can kick rocks but...

[Wolves_On_Tour]

Here we are again at the beginning of a week hoping that when we hit F5 we will have a DP or two signed....
Really hoping that by the end of the week we have 2 Maxi's signed and picture posted of them in red....

[sashavukelich]

As brought up by others, this writes off any further transactions between NOB and TFC; hopefully the rest of the AFA is still available to us.

I'd say that's only true, but with Soccer management turnover these days. That will only last a little while

[Nuvinho]

All I want is to know when these signings are going to happen....today? tomorrow? Just so I don't waste the entire day today pressing the F5 key.

[BuSaPuNk]

^ Be happy you still have an F5 key. Mines disintegrated lol

[Phil]

I think tomorrow is going to be a busy day.

[Oldtimer]

^ Be happy you still have an F5 key. Mines disintegrated lol

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--f2dai4CglI/UZPU0kI8tNI/AAAAAAAAYkA/AuR-4OME58A/w800-h800/f5.jpg

[Detroit_TFC]

Man, I just hope we sign SOMEONE (ideally 2 DPs). I had/have high hopes for this transfer window.

Yes, I'd even say crucial. We need one or two core additions, and the balance of this season to gel. Mainly because in January we need to add even more. If the business doesn't get done this window, it just pushes things down the line. We can't afford to have a half-assed start to next season.

[nonc]

NOB have no reason to be upset with TFC. We had an agreement months ago in which there was a lot of money on the table for them but they backed out on it very late, for the sake of a cup competition. Then they didn't pay the player and now he wants to sign elsewhere. Seems like a cut and dry clusterf*ck they put on themselves and it's probably apparent to the rest of the Argentine Primera as well. Laba went down smooth they like our mucho millions it will be fine.

The MLS underpinnings of Dempsey to Seattle is hardly surprising they are desperate to get Seattle into the playoffs (perennially). TFC can put 8mil annually to better use in the coming years.

[Oldtimer]

NOB have no reason to be upset with TFC. We had an agreement months ago in which there was a lot of money on the table for them but they backed out on it very late, for the sake of a cup competition. Then they didn't pay the player and now he wants to sign elsewhere. Seems like a cut and dry clusterf*ck they put on themselves and it's probably apparent to the rest of the Argentine Primera as well.


Not to mention that NOB is a competitor to the rest of the league, not best buddies. The other Argentine Clubs might be wary only if they thought TFC wouldn't deal fairly with them.

Let's put it this way, if (just for example) the Columbus Crew upset a foreign club by not dealing straightforwardly, would TFC refuse to deal with that foreign club? Not too likely, they would probably (privately) say that Columbus "brought it on themselves".

[TFC07]

Getting Urruti on free transfer is huge break for us. NOB had their chance to cash in, but they decided not to. Hopefully Urruti wins his case against NOB. NOB didn't pay his wage, so Urruti has the right to leave the club and cut ties with them. Hopefully this is all settle by Thursday.

[Red CB Toronto]

This TFC love is going to be the death of me.

[ag futbol]

Getting Urruti on free transfer is huge break for us. NOB had their chance to cash in, but they decided not to. Hopefully Urruti wins his case against NOB. NOB didn't pay his wage, so Urruti has the right to leave the club and cut ties with them. Hopefully this is all settle by Thursday.
The good news is that if he's deemed to be out of contract the Thursday deadline doesn't apply. He only need meet the roster deadline.

[shwade]

When will all the legal stuff with NoB be taken care of? Will he be allowed to play with us and obtain his ITC while it's all going down?

[Richard]

At this point I don't care if he even plays this season. Just get the players under contract, I'm looking to next season.

[Corpand]

Tonight is gonna get exciting real fast.

[Wolves_On_Tour]

Tonight is gonna get exciting real fast.

Tonight??

[Ben - D.O.W.]

Am I missing something obvious here? People keep talking about getting 2 DP's signed (the two Maxi's? yes please) but don't we already have Laba / Koevs on the books? Can we have 4 DP's if some of them are young DP's?

[razor787]

urruti wont be dp this year. will likely be next year, which means koeves is gone unless he signs a very cheap contract.

[dantdot]

^ Likely Urruti's contract will be bought down with allocation

[Ben - D.O.W.]

Perfect. Thanks folks.

[Ivy]

Tonight is gonna get exciting real fast.
You, and Phil, are the two biggest cock teases since the invention of cock.