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Eastend
01-14-2013, 06:59 PM
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/soccer/TFC+signs+Brazilian+holding+midfielder/defender+Julio+Cesar/7818754/story.html


And rumoured in WakingTheRed earlier today.....

http://www.wakingthered.com/2013/1/14/3875848/rumour-toronto-fc-to-sign-julio-cesar-sporting-kansas-city

Bluenose13
01-14-2013, 08:06 PM
Good stuff!

He was a very important player for one of the best teams in the league last year.

TOBOR !
01-14-2013, 11:22 PM
Great comments in that article about pride and character as important qualities. Gives ya goosebumps.

Derko
01-15-2013, 07:49 AM
Great comments in that article about pride and character as important qualities. Gives ya goosebumps.

I'm over my signing old guys rant, Payne is making moves early, I don't think TFC have ever done that before,no!!!

bigredone
01-15-2013, 08:38 AM
Not happy. An old fellow (by pitch standards) that will be gone soon. No connection built here for the fans, but another excuse if things go bad.

Oldtimer
01-15-2013, 08:43 AM
Not happy. An old fellow (by pitch standards) that will be gone soon. No connection built here for the fans, but another excuse if things go bad.

What's wrong with old fellows? ;)

In every team you need some veterans to teach the younger players (who should form the bulk of your squad). Every good team has a mix. No veterans, and your team gets lost, especially on the defensive end.

Ivy
01-15-2013, 08:54 AM
Good signing, I like it. He was good enough to play with KC in the playoffs just afew months back, I'm sure he's good enough to play for TFC - for now :)

I'm curious what they gave up for him though? Hopefully not the first draft pick lol

Detroit_TFC
01-15-2013, 08:58 AM
Good signing, I like it. He was good enough to play with KC in the playoffs just afew months back, I'm sure he's good enough to play for TFC - for now :)

I'm curious what they gave up for him though? Hopefully not the first draft pick lol

It's a free. He was released by SKC on November 19.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BAlio_C%C3%A9sar_Santos_Correa

pdogg
01-15-2013, 08:59 AM
Average Age of MLS Teams



Team

2012

2011

Diff



VAN

29.71

26.35

3.36



COL

29.19

28.25

0.94



CHV

29.06

27.79

1.27



LA

28.76

27.73

1.03



NY

28.53

29.05

-0.51



CHI

28.52

26.23

2.28



DAL

28.50

27.57

0.92



SJ

28.48

27.76

0.73



MTL

28.37

N/A

N/A



HOU

27.86

26.51

1.35



SEA

27.83

28.38

-0.54



RSL

27.65

27.91

-0.26



SKC

27.43

26.80

0.63



DC

27.37

25.18

2.19



NE

27.30

26.52

0.77



CLB

27.06

26.92

0.14



TOR

26.25

25.44

0.81



POR

26.24

25.78

0.46



PHI

26.18

26.98

-0.80




I'm just going to throw this up here - it's from MLS.com as of April 2012. TFC, Philly and Portland were one of the youngest and did poorly. However SKC and RSL were under the average as well. Vancouver got 3 years older from the previous year, moving from one of the youngest to one of the oldest and did much better. But this could be skewed by the amount of academy kids/prospects on the on the roster. A better indication might be the average age of the players with the top 10-15 minutes.

jabbronies
01-15-2013, 10:02 AM
Good signing. Would be interested to see how much he costs.

At the end of the day, Cesar and Frings will be sharing the duties in the mid. Don't think either of them can play a full season alone, this should assures us of a veteran mid marshaling the team on the pitch at all times.
I don't see them both as starters every game - except maybe to start the season and then the odd must win situations down the road i.e. champions league?

Initial B
01-15-2013, 10:06 AM
As long as Cesar still has a step, I think he'll be fine for a year or two yet, considering the skill level of TFC. So of our starters, almost half of them are now over the age of 30 - Cahill, Frings, Cesar, Hassili, and Koev. Well since this is a learning year, I don't expect we'll make the play-offs (again) since they'll probably wear out by September.

Yohan
01-15-2013, 10:49 AM
As long as Cesar still has a step, I think he'll be fine for a year or two yet, considering the skill level of TFC. So of our starters, almost half of them are now over the age of 30 - Cahill, Frings, Cesar, Hassili, and Koev. Well since this is a learning year, I don't expect we'll make the play-offs (again) since they'll probably wear out by September.
what. lol

jabbronies
01-15-2013, 10:57 AM
As long as Cesar still has a step, I think he'll be fine for a year or two yet, considering the skill level of TFC. So of our starters, almost half of them are now over the age of 30 - Cahill, Frings, Cesar, Hassili, and Koev. Well since this is a learning year, I don't expect we'll make the play-offs (again) since they'll probably wear out by September.

I think he means Califf
Good thing you caught it before he bought a Cahill Jersey:rolleyes:

Yohan
01-15-2013, 11:13 AM
at least TFC can say they have a former Real Madrid and AC Milan player in the books :p

Richard
01-15-2013, 12:33 PM
I had to do a double take when i looked at the teams he played for.

This guy is a world traveler,


Years

Team

Apps†

(Gls)†



1995–1996

Marathón (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/C.D._Marathón)

22

(2)



1996–1999

Valladolid (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Valladolid)

60

(4)



1999–2001

Real Madrid (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Madrid_C.F.)

21

(0)



2000

→ Milan (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/A.C._Milan) (loan)

4

(0)



2000–2001

→ Real Sociedad (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Sociedad) (loan)

16

(1)



2001–2002

Benfica (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/S.L._Benfica)

20

(3)



2002–2003

Austria Wien (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/FK_Austria_Wien)

9

(1)



2003–2004

Valladolid (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Valladolid)

28

(1)



2004–2005

Bolton Wanderers (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Bolton_Wanderers_F.C.)

5

(0)



2005–2006

Tigres (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Tigres_de_la_UANL)

29

(4)



2006–2008

Olympiacos (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Olympiacos_F.C.)

41

(7)



2008

Dinamo Bucureşti (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/FC_Dinamo_Bucureşti)

8

(0)



2009–2010

Gaziantepspor (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Gaziantepspor)

31

(1)



2010

Marítimo (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/C.S._Marítimo)


(0)



2011–2012

Sporting Kansas City (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Sporting_Kansas_City)

54

(3)



2013-

Toronto FC (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Toronto_FC)


(0

jabbronies
01-15-2013, 01:37 PM
I had to do a double take when i looked at the teams he played for.

This guy is a world traveler,


Years
Team
Apps†
(Gls)†


1995–1996
Marathón (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/C.D._Marathón)
22
(2)


1996–1999
Valladolid (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Valladolid)
60
(4)


1999–2001
Real Madrid (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Madrid_C.F.)
21
(0)


2000
→ Milan (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/A.C._Milan) (loan)
4
(0)


2000–2001
→ Real Sociedad (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Sociedad) (loan)
16
(1)


2001–2002
Benfica (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/S.L._Benfica)
20
(3)


2002–2003
Austria Wien (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/FK_Austria_Wien)
9
(1)


2003–2004
Valladolid (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Real_Valladolid)
28
(1)


2004–2005
Bolton Wanderers (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Bolton_Wanderers_F.C.)
5
(0)


2005–2006
Tigres (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Tigres_de_la_UANL)
29
(4)


2006–2008
Olympiacos (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Olympiacos_F.C.)
41
(7)


2008
Dinamo Bucureşti (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/FC_Dinamo_Bucureşti)
8
(0)


2009–2010
Gaziantepspor (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Gaziantepspor)
31
(1)


2010
Marítimo (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/C.S._Marítimo)

(0)


2011–2012
Sporting Kansas City (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Sporting_Kansas_City)
54
(3)


2013-
Toronto FC (http://redpatchboys.ca/wiki/Toronto_FC)

(0




Becuase he has played on some big teams or because of the number of teams he's been on!

Richard
01-15-2013, 01:44 PM
Becuase he has played on some big teams or because of the number of teams he's been on!

Both. :smile5:

bigredone
01-15-2013, 02:02 PM
What's wrong with old fellows? ;)

In every team you need some veterans to teach the younger players (who should form the bulk of your squad). Every good team has a mix. No veterans, and your team gets lost, especially on the defensive end.

I agree completely, but was hoping Koevs, Frings and arguably Califf would cover our lines. This has added a little excitement to this season, but after that?

The fact that he was free makes it completely worth it.

bigredone
01-15-2013, 02:04 PM
Average Age of MLS Teams


Team
2012
2011
Diff


VAN
29.71
26.35
3.36


COL
29.19
28.25
0.94


CHV
29.06
27.79
1.27


LA
28.76
27.73
1.03


NY
28.53
29.05
-0.51


CHI
28.52
26.23
2.28


DAL
28.50
27.57
0.92


SJ
28.48
27.76
0.73


MTL
28.37
N/A
N/A


HOU
27.86
26.51
1.35


SEA
27.83
28.38
-0.54


RSL
27.65
27.91
-0.26


SKC
27.43
26.80
0.63


DC
27.37
25.18
2.19


NE
27.30
26.52
0.77


CLB
27.06
26.92
0.14


TOR
26.25
25.44
0.81


POR
26.24
25.78
0.46


PHI
26.18
26.98
-0.80



I'm just going to throw this up here - it's from MLS.com as of April 2012. TFC, Philly and Portland were one of the youngest and did poorly. However SKC and RSL were under the average as well. Vancouver got 3 years older from the previous year, moving from one of the youngest to one of the oldest and did much better. But this could be skewed by the amount of academy kids/prospects on the on the roster. A better indication might be the average age of the players with the top 10-15 minutes.

Hopefully their winning ways can be sustained.

T-boy
01-15-2013, 03:52 PM
No doubt Cesar is a journeyman traveler.

BUT - what Payne is starting to line up is a real experienced DEPTH to the TFC squad. Cesar, Califf, and Frings bring some amazing experience and depth to the defence/DM position. If we now get the right young players through the draft, we have a decent looking depth squad. Add to that the young player we already have - like Henry, Ecks, Agboss, Morgan - that's the type of mixed youth/experience depth to get through a MLS season.

bigredone
01-18-2013, 09:54 AM
Cesar signing feels/looks better after the draft. " We've got high hopes"

PopePouri
01-18-2013, 10:00 AM
It looks like we're building an experienced core in the middle of defense and midfield with a young attack. I think that's really smart.