MLS CCL thread

[Oldtimer]

RSL will be playing Herediano 10PM at RIo Tinto Tuesday October 23:


RSL must advance to receive a salary-budget bonus from Major League Soccer. Without it, RSL might be forced to disband its core group of players and start rebuilding.

The league provides the bonus to support teams advancing in Champions League since many need the financial help to retain the players who helped them qualify for the knockout rounds.



http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/55125414-77/rsl-league-herediano-champions.html.csp

A win is needed to send them to the quarter-finals.

Houston also play Olimpia at 8PM, and need a win or a tie. Houston will be playing their reserves to focus on MLS.

http://www.chron.com/sports/dynamo/article/Kinnear-plans-to-use-Dynamo-reserves-in-Champions-3972492.php

CCL Standings:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/standings2012

In one sense, I'd love to see Kreis' team play again in the CCL, they have been great to watch and give the competition the attention it deserves. OTOH, it's tough to see a team other than TFC get a cap advantage.

There is often some good football to watch in the CCL, though the Houston game probably won't display much.

[ouderwien]

As much as I would want TFC to succeed in the CCL, I was cheering for RSL last last year, and therefore I would be happy with any MLS achievements in the CCL tournament. For now.

[Yohan]

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/148472/1/watch-houston-dynamo-vs-cd-olimpia.html

Houston vs Olimpia

Also on http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/

Free registration required

[Yohan]

We have a Nathan Sturgis sighting...

[Oldtimer]

Kinnear given a red card lolol

[Yohan]

Houston is totally getting CONCACAF'd

[Yohan]

Hainault with massive goal to tie it up 1-1

[Oldtimer]

Hainault equalizes with a great header!!!!! Dynamo fans go wild.

[Oldtimer]

Now the game really opens up.

[Oldtimer]

I wish we had a team in the CCL... oh wait, we do...

[Oldtimer]

Chance for Dynamo to get CONCACAFed

[Oldtimer]

yep. Yellow.

[Oldtimer]

second yellow, Olimpia down a man.

[Yohan]

I wish TFC had someone like Boniek Garcia. What a game changer

[Oldtimer]

MLS teams can't play the short-passing game... oh wait... Houston seems to be doing it and holding possession quite fine.

[Oldtimer]

... and they've done it. Houston is through.

[Oldtimer]

RSL game here:

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/forcelogin/WatchLiveEvent/0,,12907~773517,00.html (http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/forcelogin/WatchLiveEvent/0,,12907%7E773517,00.html)

(free registration required)

[Yohan]

RSL game here:

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/forcelogin/WatchLiveEvent/0,,12907~773517,00.html

(free registration required)
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/148475/1/watch-real-salt-lake-vs-club-sport-herediano.html (http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/)

[Auzzy]

MLS teams can't play the short-passing game... oh wait... Houston seems to be doing it and holding possession quite fine.

I was going to say, after watching the last half hour of that game, hard to believe Houston plays in the same league as TFC. I've seen them playing in MLS vs. other teams, and Houston often looks quite a bit different from today. So also tactically aware & flexible, adapting their style of play to suit the opponent and the occasion.

[Oldtimer]

Good atmosphere at Rio Tinto.

[Yohan]

I was going to say, after watching the last half hour of that game, hard to believe Houston plays in the same league as TFC. I've seen them playing in MLS vs. other teams, and Houston often looks quite a bit different from today. So also tactically aware & flexible, adapting their style of play to suit the opponent and the occasion.

also shows Kinnear as flexible tactician, and Kinnear used to be a 'hoofball' guy

so the question is, is it just the quality of players that kept MLS coaches from playing more possession based game? interesting hypothesis to explore...

[Ajax TFC]

pisses me off that SNW has absolutely nothing to show, but they don't show the game til 12 because they have highlight shows to show

[Oldtimer]

I was going to say, after watching the last half hour of that game, hard to believe Houston plays in the same league as TFC. I've seen them playing in MLS vs. other teams, and Houston often looks quite a bit different from today. So also tactically aware & flexible, adapting their style of play to suit the opponent and the occasion.
True... so much like good clubs everywhere. Just like an EPL team playing differently in Continental play.

[Oldtimer]

OPEN GOAL MISS by Espindola!!!!

[Yohan]

yikes. Espindola hits cross bar

[Oldtimer]

Gotta admit, I'm hoping RSL wins.

RSL is showing tremendous heart.

[Yohan]

speaking of Espindola, what scouting trip that must have been for RSL, to have 2 out of 3 Argies they signed turned out to be gold (the other being Morales)

[AlanO]

I was going to say, after watching the last half hour of that game, hard to believe Houston plays in the same league as TFC. I've seen them playing in MLS vs. other teams, and Houston often looks quite a bit different from today. So also tactically aware & flexible, adapting their style of play to suit the opponent and the occasion.
Watching fringe playoff teams like Houston, Dallas and Vancouver really drives home how much ground TFC has to make up just to be in the conversation, never mind competitive.

[Oldtimer]

Exciting match so far.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

TFC on sportsworld? fack!

[Ajax TFC]

Look how high up the RSL defenders are playing, running forward passed the halfway line to win loose balls back. But if i recall correctly, the reason we lost so much under Winter was because MLS defenders aren't good enough to play a high line

[Yohan]

Look how high up the RSL defenders are playing, running forward passed the halfway line to win loose balls back. But if i recall correctly, the reason we lost so much under Winter was because MLS defenders aren't good enough to play a high line
that back 4 has been playing together since 2008, plus beckerman and rimando around same time. Except Schuler who is with RSL since 2010. the chemistry between those guys is what allows RSL to pull off a high line. heck, they probably know and understand each other better than their wives

[Yohan]

that Kyle Beckerman for Mehdi Ballouchy trade has to be one of most lopsided trades ever in MLS... just as much as Wondo for Cam Weaver trade

[Oldtimer]

RSL still needs a goal to win. 0-0 at the half. Good match so far.

[Yohan]

ass puckering moment for RSL as Herediano hits the post on a break

[Ajax TFC]

that Kyle Beckerman for Mehdi Ballouchy trade has to be one of most lopsided trades ever in MLS... just as much as Wondo for Cam Weaver trade
I think a lot of TFC trades can be put up there, or close to there. For example: Sam Cronin for some allocation used on half a season of Mista. Or De Rosario for Tchani and Borman

[Ajax TFC]

I'm surprised the fake injury time wasting didn't start way earlier

[Yohan]

0-0 final, and RSL bows out of CCL. all the possession, no clinical finishing. just like Arsenal lol

[Oldtimer]

Herediano’s insistence on sitting back on its heels — and a penchant for flopping in the second half — left Salt Lake players and coaches frustrated.

“Yeah, it’s standard when you play these teams,” RSL midfielder Will Johnson said. “Diving. Time wasting. You know exactly what you’re going to get. They think that’s a good way to play.”

The biggest problem for RSL coach Jason Kreis is that the officials did not take control of the game and add enough time to curtail the theatrics.
“For me, it’s ugly,” Kreis said. “It’s not what this sport is about. The referees need to be smart enough to say, ‘We’re going to add on time.’”


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/soccer/general/view/20221024rsl_out_of_concacaf_after_0-0_draw_with_herediano/

Par for the course for CONCACAF.

[Alonso]

Seattle rocking at the moment against Marathon.

Game doesn't mean anything but you couldn't tell from listening to the fans.

[Yohan]

Seattle rocking at the moment against Marathon.

Game doesn't mean anything but you couldn't tell from listening to the fans.
and this is Sounders reserve squad (minus 2 CBs)... which plays better than TFC 1st squad

[Alonso]

I shed a tear for what could have been.

And look forward to what might yet be!

[Alonso]

Seattle scores to make it 3-1

[Yohan]

Quarterfinals
LA vs Herediano
Seattle vs Tigres
Houston vs Santos Laguna
Monterrey vs Xelaju

Will be interesting to see if any of MLS teams even make it to semi finals

[Oldtimer]

Seattle lost to Tigres, 1-0 in Mexico. : http://www.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2013-03-06-TIG-v-SEA/recap

Galaxy @ P.R. Islanders 8PM Thursday March 7. I expect the Galaxy to win this one. Let's see how far MLS can go.

[Yohan]

you meant herediano

[Oldtimer]

you meant herediano

Sorry, yes herediano.

[Oldtimer]

http://www.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2013-03-07-HER-v-LA/recap

Galaxy tie Herediano 0-0. They will have home advantage, but Herdoano will have an advantage on away goals, as LA didn't score on their away match.

[Stouffville_RPB]

Santos will take care of business next week. I would think Tigres would too. That leaves LA having to carry the MLS flag in my opinion. I don't want to cheer for LA but if they are the last remaining MLS club I will.

C'mon Dynamo/Sounders!!!!!

[Yohan]

Santos will take care of business next week. I would think Tigres would too. That leaves LA having to carry the MLS flag in my opinion. I don't want to cheer for LA but if they are the last remaining MLS club I will.

C'mon Dynamo/Sounders!!!!!
It's going to be very tight on return leg

We all know what Santos Laguna can do, and they are more than capable of unleashing goals at Torreon. But Houston looked really good going forward. Some of their movement and one touch passing were some of best I've seen in MLS. Defensive a little shaky, but I can see Houston nicking an away goal to make things interesting.

As for Seattle, I think Tigres will score a goal, but Seattle at home... we'll see. Should be interesting

[Yohan]

http://88.80.5.80/w00t/20130312/vv513f8b93c4e9f387420882-541448.html

2nd half just started

Tigres up 2-0 with an away goal, but had a man sent off. Embarassing for Seattle losing to Tigres reserve team though

[Yohan]

two golazos and Seattle is back in it. 2-2 on aggregate, Tigres leads on away goal

[Yohan]

Eddie Johnson scores! 3-2 Seattle on aggregate

[jloome]

Eddie Johnson scores! 3-2 Seattle on aggregate

What a game. Best goal of Djimi Traore's career, big fightback, Sounders dominating second half.

[jloome]

DeAndre Yedlin's a special player.

[Lennon]

Tigres' coach looks happy to be out of this competition, lol.
Epic comeback.

[Yohan]

DeAndre Yedlin's a special player.
MOM for me. this kid has talent.

Seattle wins and is the first MLS team to knock out an Mexican team out of CCL

[Yohan]

Tigres' coach looks happy to be out of this competition, lol.
Epic comeback.
Tuco Ferreti has history of not taking CCL and Copa Liberatores seriously. Usually sends the reserve squad to those competitions

[mowe]

Good win for Seattle, all credit to them. If Houston holds on against Santos tomorrow (unlikely), maybe Mexican teams will start taking this tournament more seriously and it can turn into something special.

[Huyton]

Did I read that right?

Viniegra of Tigres gets a yellow card in the 37th minute for kicking the ball away, and 8 minutes later does the same thing, gets another yellow card and Tigres are down to 10 men? What an idiot.

Then, Seattle score 3 goals and Tigres go out.

Where was the referee from? He obviously wasn't putting up with any crap from the Mexicans as he gave their goalie a yellow card for time-wasting in the 35th minute.

[Yohan]

Good win for Seattle, all credit to them. If Houston holds on against Santos tomorrow (unlikely), maybe Mexican teams will start taking this tournament more seriously and it can turn into something special.
most Mexican teams are starting to take this tourney seriously. they usually do for knockout rounds. Monterrey apparently sold out their game vs Xelaju earlier today

[Yohan]

Did I read that right?

Viniegra of Tigres gets a yellow card in the 37th minute for kicking the ball away, and 8 minutes later does the same thing, gets another yellow card and Tigres are down to 10 men? What an idiot.

Then, Seattle score 3 goals and Tigres go out.

Where was the referee from? He obviously wasn't putting up with any crap from the Mexicans as he gave their goalie a yellow card for time-wasting in the 35th minute.Elmer Bonilla from El Salvador or something. He reffed TFC CCL games IIRC

[Yohan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ED1q4-2Juso#!

Highlights of Seattle - Tigres game

[tfcleeds]

What freaking amazing strikes by Traore and Yedlin, especially. But one still wonders about the outcome had Tigres not received a red card.

[BuSaPuNk]

Wow amazing strike by Traore. The announcer got it right don't thi a keeper in this world could have stopped that. By that third goal was a stinker. Bad play by the Tigres keeper. But they threw away a win with the stupidity that was the two yellow cards.

[FIAF]

Tigres' coach looks happy to be out of this competition, lol.
Epic comeback.

Yep, he doesn't care. To be fair he probably would have pulled it off if it weren't for the ref. But I'm glad he didn't. I feel sorry for Tigres fans it's just disrespectful to do this to them even in Libertadores he didn't take it seriously.

[kodiakTFC]

I got goosebumps watching that match. Incredible stuff.

[Oldtimer]

It's the ref's fault - Tigres coach (Google translation):

http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn.mediotiempo.com%2Ffutbol%2Fmexi co%2Fnoticias%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Ffue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca

(http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn.mediotiempo.com%2Ffutbol%2Fmexi co%2Fnoticias%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Ffue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca)


Late in the game where he was thrashed 3-1 by the Sounders, the helmsman who has rejected auriazul heavy leave their starters in Mexico, and instead attacked the work of whistling Elmer Bonilla, who in his opinion deserves all adjectives for localism.



"The (loss) is a combination of three factors, and is what gives us the possibility of being eliminated," he said to the media.


"First the expulsion just because two yellow is for misconduct, after two goals, the second the truth until he applauded. And then a third, worth CONCACAF arbitration, terrible, horrible, localist. All adjectives fit into the Mr. arbitration ".


The Brazilian coach said he was hit in the field that allowed improperly, and that ended pesándole your campus.


"I will not devalue the qualification of Seattle, but 12 is a little more difficult. Localist (the referee) and passed over a number of attacks on the opposing team, and gives courage this type of situation. I think the team did not need to Seattle of those things, but who gives bread to cry. "


- Referee's why you do not like this kind of games? - "Who told you I do not like this kind of games?. No, not why, and on the contrary, I like the opportunity to participate in a World Cup. The institution that tops my president, we had every intention of moving to the next stage, and of course there are things in the bad situation we are living today, positive things for the future. "


Ferretti wanted to clarify that it has no aversion Confederation tournaments, but insisted that if he dislikes much compete with the standard of refereeing is presented.


"Not that I like or do not like.'s A tournament you have to participate for being champion and runner. Naturamente the subject of arbitration for many years, and there is this kind of detail in the CONCACAF zone. People mistakes you do not want to participate, and not everyone wants to participate, but we need an arbitration according to what you think, and do not have it. "


- Did you feel helpless in trailing and not have their best players? - "I have great confidence in my group, and if you see the first time before the expulsion were completely dominating the game. Did not have to feel that I needed . About 11 to 11 had the game ... we were well in the game, and unfortunately expulsion expulsion comes to change the game. "


(http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn.mediotiempo.com%2Ffutbol%2Fmexi co%2Fnoticias%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Ffue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca)

[Oldtimer]

It's the ref's fault - Tigres coach (Google translation):

http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn.mediotiempo.com%2Ffutbol%2Fmexi co%2Fnoticias%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Ffue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca

(http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn.mediotiempo.com%2Ffutbol%2Fmexi co%2Fnoticias%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Ffue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca)


Late in the game where he was thrashed 3-1 by the Sounders, the helmsman who has rejected auriazul heavy leave their starters in Mexico, and instead attacked the work of whistling Elmer Bonilla, who in his opinion deserves all adjectives for localism.



"The (loss) is a combination of three factors, and is what gives us the possibility of being eliminated," he said to the media.


"First the expulsion just because two yellow is for misconduct, after two goals, the second the truth until he applauded. And then a third, worth CONCACAF arbitration, terrible, horrible, localist. All adjectives fit into the Mr. arbitration ".


The Brazilian coach said he was hit in the field that allowed improperly, and that ended pesándole your campus.


"I will not devalue the qualification of Seattle, but 12 is a little more difficult. Localist (the referee) and passed over a number of attacks on the opposing team, and gives courage this type of situation. I think the team did not need to Seattle of those things, but who gives bread to cry. "


- Referee's why you do not like this kind of games? - "Who told you I do not like this kind of games?. No, not why, and on the contrary, I like the opportunity to participate in a World Cup. The institution that tops my president, we had every intention of moving to the next stage, and of course there are things in the bad situation we are living today, positive things for the future. "


Ferretti wanted to clarify that it has no aversion Confederation tournaments, but insisted that if he dislikes much compete with the standard of refereeing is presented.


"Not that I like or do not like.'s A tournament you have to participate for being champion and runner. Naturamente the subject of arbitration for many years, and there is this kind of detail in the CONCACAF zone. People mistakes you do not want to participate, and not everyone wants to participate, but we need an arbitration according to what you think, and do not have it. "


- Did you feel helpless in trailing and not have their best players? - "I have great confidence in my group, and if you see the first time before the expulsion were completely dominating the game. Did not have to feel that I needed . About 11 to 11 had the game ... we were well in the game, and unfortunately expulsion expulsion comes to change the game. "


(http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn.mediotiempo.com%2Ffutbol%2Fmexi co%2Fnoticias%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Ffue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca)
Original Spanish: http://msn.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2013/03/12/fue-un-arbitraje-localista-digno-de-concacaf-tuca

[Oldtimer]

Sigi interview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvhSkV-v8B8

[Yohan]

http://www.firstrow1.eu/watch/174689/1/watch-santos-laguna--vs-houston-dynamo.html

Houston at Santos Laguna now

[Smokecell]

Houston s falling apart. Ouch

[ryan]

Houston was piss. Just a brutal performance.

[Oldtimer]

LA loses at home 2-1 to Monterrey. Now they have to get a win at Estadio Tecnológico, or tie 3-3 or higher.
They gave up 2 late goals (sound familiar?).

http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/article/2013/04/04/ccl-la-galaxy-backline-loses-plot-during-most-important-minutes-game

[Oldtimer]

Upcoming matches:

Seattle @ Santos Laguna, April 9, 8PM. Seattle has to win 1-0, or tie 2-2 or higher.
LA @ Monterrey, April 10, 10PM. LA has to win 2-0, or tie 3-3 or higher.

It's likely both MLS sides will be eliminated by April 10, leading to an all-Mexican final.

[pekduck]

^
LA has to win right? Monterrey won already. Away goal only in effect if it's all tied up at the end. Meaning, LA has to win by 2 goals.

[Detroit_TFC]

For much of that game vs Monterrey, LA looked much better than when they played us, and not just because Keane was back. Taking Villareal out for Donovan really disrupted their flow and it was downhill from there. He's got another couple weeks before match fitness IMO. If I was an LA fan, I'd be alarmed by how bad things felt apart at the end.

[Oldtimer]

^
LA has to win right? Monterrey won already. Away goal only in effect if it's all tied up at the end. Meaning, LA has to win by 2 goals.

Sorry, that should be 3-3 on aggregate. I hope that clears it up. Same deal with Seattle.

[FIAF]

Looks like another Mexican final.

[Oldtimer]

CCL: Seattle Sounders arrive in Torreon, believe a comeback vs. Santos Laguna is possible
TORREÓN, Mexico – The Seattle Sounders face a daunting task, but it's one they are confident they can overcome.
That was the general message from the club as they touched down in Mexico on Sunday night ahead of the second leg of their CONCACAF Champions League semifinal series against Santos Laguna on Tuesday (8 pm ET, Fox Soccer, live chat on MLSsoccer.com).
Down 1-0 in the series after losing at home last week (http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/article/2013/04/03/ccl-match-recap-seattle-sounders-0-santos-laguna-1), Seattle will need to grab a result under hostile conditions if they are to move on to the tournament finals, but they have the belief that they can do just that.
“A comeback is doable because it’s only one goal,” Mauro Rosales (http://www.mlssoccer.com/players/mauro-rosales) told reporters at Torreón Airport. “The last game, we were in a worse situation and we were able to get past Tigres so we anticipate that we can do the right things to get a result.”




http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/article/2013/04/08/ccl-seattle-sounders-arrive-torreon-believe-comeback-vs-santos-laguna-possib

[Oldtimer]

1-1 tie knocks out the Sounders:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2013-04-09-CSL-v-SEA/recap

[Oldtimer]

LA now up 10PM.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/article/2013/04/09/ccl-galaxy-go-monterrey-ccl-decider-nothing-lose

[Yohan]

http://www.firstrow1.eu/watch/180151/1/watch-monterrey-vs-la-galaxy.html

LA at Monterrey

[Oldtimer]

LA eliminated. Now it's an all-Mexican final.

[Yohan]

Monterrey does a threepeat. Comeback victory to win 4-2 vs Santos Laguna

http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/NewsDetail/0,,12856~3164362,00.html

http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/Video/HighlightsDetail2/0,,12856~3164190,00.html