Pre-In-Post-Game-Thread-TFC-v Sporting KC @830 pm EST

[v00d00daddy]

Since there isn't one up yet.

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[TFC07]

There isn't one because no one really cares anymore. :(

[azorean19]

There isn't one because no one really cares anymore. :(

scary stuff......

[bigredone]

I wanted to start one, but have a hard enough time posting with quotes so it is not my realm.

I wouldn't know where to start with a starting 11. Hassli? Lambe? Kocic? Henry? unlikely I think.

[narduch]

This is the injury report from the MLS site:

SPORTING KANSAS CITY – OUT: FW Teal Bunbury (L knee ACL tear); DF Cyprian Hedrick (L fibula fracture); FW Jacob Peterson (R shoulder sprain); QUESTIONABLE: FW Bobby Convey (R hamstring strain); GK Jon Kempin (R ankle fracture) …

TORONTO FC – OUT: GK Stefan Frei (L lower leg); FW Danny Koevermans (L knee ACL tear); DF Ty Harden (lower abdominal strain); DF Doneil Henry (L knee tendinosis); QUESTIONABLE: FW Eric Hassli (back spasms); DF Matt Stinson (R quadriceps strain); MF Reggie Lambe (R knee MCL sprain)

Also: Frings, Dunfield and Morgan are all 1 yellow card away from suspension.

[Gazza]

Stage set for Weedman. After he scores and points to the camera, you all know who he'll be pointing at...THIS drunk guy right here!

[iy12l]

I had a dream Adrian Cann swore at mariner during a post-game interview, i can see it happening one day lol..

[Joe Kool]

Pregame threads used to happen the minute the previous game was over or in some cases earlier than that. Now they get created a few hours before the game....and on a forum where some of the most hardcore support is. Very telling of the state of things. As far as this game goes I just want to see a decent game for the duration of the game. No "game of two halves" or "we held them for 80min" or "we had a good effort but you have to remember this is one of the top teams in the league" kind of games. Full 90min complete game. If we get beat it should be because of great plays and not our mistakes. Just for once...asking for too much?

[narduch]

According to Kurt Larson's pregame chat (available here: http://embed.scribblelive.com/Embed/v5.aspx?Id=57920&ThemeId=6455 ), Hassli didn't travel with the team.

[Richard]

Pregame threads used to happen the minute the previous game was over or in some cases earlier than that. Now they get created a few hours before the game....and on a forum where some of the most hardcore support is. Very telling of the state of things. As far as this game goes I just want to see a decent game for the duration of the game. No "game of two halves" or "we held them for 80min" or "we had a good effort but you have to remember this is one of the top teams in the league" kind of games. Full 90min complete game. If we get beat it should be because of great plays and not our mistakes. Just for once...asking for too much?

Just realized there was a game today. :(

[Auzzy]

Oh god:


#TorontoFC (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23TorontoFC) XI: F. Hall; J. Hall, Eckersley, O'Dea, Emory; Wiedeman, Dunfield, Maund, Johnson; Silva, Amarikwa

[Benficachop20]

fuck thats disgusting. No Morgan? Let me guess a short bench.

[zorsofstesab]

it is disgusting.....the lack of interest is very very very worrisome. ««««««««««««i a am ssth from day and not quit yet prepared to give up...too hardcore...but i can definitely understand why people are fed up. «don`t blame them. I think we will be lucky to have 13k SSTH this year....the straw broke the camel`s back. I think there has to be a protest organized.....despite the apathy....a solid message has to be delivered, not just not renewing your season tix. I have stopped spending money in the stadium for a couple of years now, especially since we stopped tailgating. MLSE killed that when they sent cops into the parking lot. Tonight I think we will get smoked.

[Ajax TFC]

fuck this, Id rather have Morgan play any of the midfield or striker positions over the people who are lined up in them. Same goes for Avila who is better than every single one of those midfielders

[ensco]

I think we will be lucky to have 13k SSTH this year....

I don't care what TFC say, we have less than that now.

SSH level will collapse to 6-8K next year.

Too late for tears.

[Torontotonto]

Pregame threads used to happen the minute the previous game was over or in some cases earlier than that. Now they get created a few hours before the game....and on a forum where some of the most hardcore support is. Very telling of the state of things. As far as this game goes I just want to see a decent game for the duration of the game. No "game of two halves" or "we held them for 80min" or "we had a good effort but you have to remember this is one of the top teams in the league" kind of games. Full 90min complete game. If we get beat it should be because of great plays and not our mistakes. Just for once...asking for too much?

Right on Joe !
Heading out to the local pub for this one.
Through the High's and the Low's.
It been all low.
I don't give a fuck.

Come on you REDS, give us something tonight...

:flare::drum::scarf::drum::flare:

[v00d00daddy]

So no frings eh?

Hmm?

Wonder if he'll be on the bench.

Haven't heard anything about an injury.

Anyone know why he's not starting?

[daner90]

Wow no Kocic again. is Mariner really going to freeze him out. fuck....

[iy12l]

#TorontoFC (https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23TorontoFC&src=hash) XI: F. Hall; J. Hall, Eckersley, O'Dea, Emory; Wiedeman, Dunfield, Maund, Johnson; Silva, Amarikwa.. #TFCLive (https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23TFCLive&src=hash)

This would be approximately the teams fifa rating in real life

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------62-61-69-61----
---57---58--51---63--
---------61--67-------

There is at least 4 people playing out of position... not sure about some players but maybe 6 people of of their normal positions. Mariner burnt this team to the ground. This dumbass was supposed to "tweak" our team temporarily from the 0-9 start BUT he was still supposed to keep the 4-3-3 vision on his mindset. This jackass threw the 4-3-3 project in the garbage and brought some outdated 1920 football. It will take at least 2 years to rebuild back to the 4-3-3 and by that time this franchise is dead.

[Code Red]

Can't see us being in this game at all.

KC is as strong as they come in MLS.

Anybody have a link to the pre-game?

[TFC07]

Unless Morgan is currently training with Canadian national team, not starting him while having Hall and Emory on starting line up is not acceptable. Also where is Frings and Hassli? Both of our DP's not starting while we have Amarika and Maund starting? Where's Avila and Kocic? Why not just start academy team?

Mariner is a joke! What's point watching this game? Fire Mariner already!

[TFC07]

it is disgusting.....the lack of interest is very very very worrisome. ««««««««««««i a am ssth from day and not quit yet prepared to give up...too hardcore...but i can definitely understand why people are fed up. «don`t blame them. I think we will be lucky to have 13k SSTH this year....the straw broke the camel`s back. I think there has to be a protest organized.....despite the apathy....a solid message has to be delivered, not just not renewing your season tix. I have stopped spending money in the stadium for a couple of years now, especially since we stopped tailgating. MLSE killed that when they sent cops into the parking lot. Tonight I think we will get smoked.

Just look at starting line up and you will see why there's no interest anymore.

[zorsofstesab]

What is the story with Avila......I think he is very talented and better than most players on the team. Yet Mariner has him on the bench.................WTF.

[v00d00daddy]

Unless Morgan is currently training with Canadian national team, not starting him while having Hall and Emory on starting line up is not acceptable. Also where is Frings and Hassli? Both of our DP's not starting while we have Amarika and Maund starting? Where's Avila and Kocic? Why not just start academy team?

Mariner is a joke! What's point watching this game? Fire Mariner already!

Hassli didn't travel with the team due to a rib injury.

Frings? No idea.

[TFC07]

What is the story with Avila......I think he is very talented and better than most players on the team. Yet Mariner has him on the bench.................WTF.

Avila is technical player which Mariner doesn't like. lol

[Ajax TFC]

....the straw broke the camel`s back.
That straw was definitely the firing of Winter. The only thing that was really keeping people interested was the prospect of some good football sometime in the future. When Mariner was hired and he went back to shit football and started changing the team again that hope was gone

[TFC07]

Hassli didn't travel with the team due to a rib injury.

Frings? No idea.

Good to know.

[Auzzy]

As I wrote elsewhere, Frings may have a sudden hip injury. I wonder if that happened when Mariner threw him under the bus after the last game. Supposedly Mariner will have something to say about Hassli, Frings, Morgan before the game. Waiting for some word from Twitter.

[v00d00daddy]

#TorontoFC (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23TorontoFC) Substitutes: Kocic; Cann, Williams, Stinson, Avila ..#TFCLive (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23TFCLive)

Okay so no Frings on the bench either.

Apparently Mariner is going to talk about the teams current injuries prior to kick off.

I'll be watching and will pass along the info.

[Auzzy]

^ They really should have signed that black cat.

[Wooster_TFC]

Any streams?

[TFC07]

LOL @ Midfield?

Dunfield, Maund and Wiedeman midfield lol So we going to be sitting back and defend for 90 minutes?

I don't understand why Mariner keeps starting Wiedeman.

[Gazza]

I'm so excited.

[Benficachop20]

short bench as expected, can't call on Cordon or Maku to fill the bench, Mariner?

[Auzzy]

LOL @ Midfield?

Dunfield, Maund and Wiedeman midfield lol So we going to be sitting back and defend for 90 minutes?

I don't understand why Mariner keeps starting Wiedeman.

Well duh, because he's one of the best finishers of the modern era.

[Code Red]

Link anyone?

[Blizzard]

So no frings eh?

Hmm?

Wonder if he'll be on the bench.

Haven't heard anything about an injury.

Anyone know why he's not starting?

Frings was probably injured by the bus Mariner threw him under after the last game. OK, Frings has not been in top form but he surely didn't deserve to be singled out by Mariner like that. The guy has earned respect. I thought Mariner's behaviour was inexcusable.

Perhaps the relationship was broken beyond repair by this.

[Soccerpro]

This midfield is a bit underwhelming. Enough with Wiedeman already.

[Auzzy]

MLS Live is showing the Sportsnet broadcast, with Dunleavy & Rongen.

[v00d00daddy]

They've mentioned Frings but no explanation as to why he's not there.

[Lennon]

Mariner going for that #1 (draft) spot.
.. so he can trade it for Kris Boyd

[SirBobSaget]

Wow this lineup, gonna be a thrashing. Good thing j oeterson is out i couldnt stand seeing him score

[daner90]

What the fuck is with the midfield. Mariner keeps playing Johnson way out of position on the wing while Silva plays up front.
Meanwhile Maund a natural defender gets the call in midfield with the very talented Eric Avila never seeing time anymore.

Mariner's player selection is enough to drive someone mad...

[DaBandit]

Frings was probably injured by the bus Mariner threw him under after the last game. OK, Frings has not been in top form but he surely didn't deserve to be singled out by Mariner like that. The guy has earned respect. I thought Mariner's behaviour was inexcusable.

Perhaps the relationship was broken beyond repair by this.

Mariner is a bush league coach in a bush league organization in a bush league..

[DaBandit]

What the fuck is with the midfield. Mariner keeps playing Johnson way out of position on the wing while Silva plays up front.
Meanwhile Maund a natural defender gets the call in midfield with the very talented Eric Avila never seeing time anymore.

Mariner's player selection is enough to drive someone mad...

I dont think I have ever in my life seen a worse run team.. from the ground up, it a shit show..

[ChrisFizik]

seen on the ad boards around the pitch in KC:
"Welcome to the Blue Hell."


Great.



give us a match Reds, something.

[zorsofstesab]

Mariner has to be fucken fired.......period. squad selection is fucked up. Reporters have to question his squad selection the post game.......worst fucken line up of all time.

[Oldtimer]

I'll say 5-0 for the team playing 4-3-3.

Mariner has destroyed whatever hope remained in this team, he is now in the process of burning down whatever talent remains. After his scorched earth policy, rebuilding will take years, not just one season.

It's too late for protests, Tom Anselmi has managed to destroy most of the goodwill surrounding this team. So few people care about this team anymore.

[Parkdale]

found a stream
http://88.80.11.29/50407/watch-sporting-kansas-city-vs-toronto-fc

I'm happy to be watching, from my couch

[Parkdale]

also, fuck Kei Karmara. hate that douche

[iy12l]

If we lose like 5-0, whats mariner going to say this time during post interview???

[Suds]

first row sports also has the stream

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/138654/1/watch-kansas-city-vs-toronto-fc.html

[Parkdale]

the commentator on the US feed just said Dunfield and O'Dea have been rock solid. well thanks.

[iy12l]

Btw why do people say Hall's distributuion is better than Kocic's? Its worse

[gracos]

SKC will win, in the last few minutes, dont think TFC have improvedin the last week, lol

[SirBobSaget]

These announcers wont shut up about how mariner hasd the team on right track and how young and promiding the okayers are.... Shut up already and talk about the game. These two are obviously obligated to tow the company line and rosey up the crap were seeing.

[zorsofstesab]

horrendis

[SirBobSaget]

3 giveaways in a row trying to boot up the field

[v00d00daddy]

Btw why do people say Hall's distributuion is better than Kocic's? Its worse

By better distribution I think it means he kicks it long more often and he can kick it farther. LOL

What Freddy Hall does should never ever ever be called "distribution"

[Benficachop20]

16 mins and only 27% of the ball. ya we dont suck.

[Yohan]

Good atmosphere at livestrong. I remember when 100t tfc supporters owned kc supporters at arrowhead. Sigh

[TFC07]

These announcers wont shut up about how mariner hasd the team on right track and how young and promiding the okayers are.... Shut up already and talk about the game. These two are obviously obligated to tow the company line and rosey up the crap were seeing.

Well they're employees of ML$E so of course they will be bias.

[Couchy81]

Possession 73% to 27%....

[Benficachop20]

interview right in the middle of the game. fucking stupid

[TFC07]

Frings not playing because of hip issues? Frings going back to Germany to see his doctor.

[Parkdale]

Good atmosphere at livestrong. I remember when 100t tfc supporters owned kc supporters at arrowhead. Sigh

yeah, they sound decent. did the KC Wiz used to play on a baseball diamond? Not hard to own that one.

[v00d00daddy]

Mariner saying Frings has an injured hip.

Says they want him to get fit and get ready for next season.

Read: No more Frings this year.

I'd also guess that Mariner saying Frings will be back next year is as truthful as the "minor tweaks" that he was gonna make when he took over. LOL

I don't know much but I know a liar when I see one and he was lying through his teeth in the interview they just showed.

[Dkolish3]

Well they're employees of ML$E so of course they will be bias.

Considering that now all TFC announcers work for the MLSE bosses, are they all biased?

[Ajax TFC]

Btw why do people say Hall's distributuion is better than Kocic's? Its worse
What are you talking about? Hall can kick it out closer to the other teams end than Kocic can :facepalm:

[[NBF]]

LOL@Frings being in Germany with his personal doctor for a check up on his hip.....he's fucked off and they have to pay him.:lmfao:

[Benficachop20]

wat about Morgan? where is he?

[Dkolish3]

yeah, they sound decent. did the KC Wiz used to play on a baseball diamond? Not hard to own that one.

I thought they played at the Arrowhead, football stadium

[Blizzard]

If we lose like 5-0, whats mariner going to say this time during post interview???

He'll blame Frings.

[[NBF]]

Mariner going for that #1 (draft) spot.
.. so he can trade it for Kris Boyd

No draft pick in the first round, because TFC needed it to get Hassli. So essentially we're playing hoofball so Vancouver can have a nice 1st pick.

[Blizzard]

I thought they played at the Arrowhead, football stadium

They had to leave Arrowhead as it was being renovated so then had to play at a minor league baseball facility for a couple of years.

[Yohan]

Omg kc supporters singing vindaloo. Awesome

[flamehawk]

Has any reporter ever asked Mariner why the fuck he doesn't field a full bench? Just seems completely insulting to the players left behind.

[[NBF]]

They had to leave Arrowhead as it was being renovated so then had to play at a minor league baseball facility for a couple of years.

Wasnt that the worst sight to watch TFC in that baseball stadium. It was so short it was about 3/4 of the field right now.

[SirBobSaget]

wat about Morgan? where is he?

Probabky abandoned the sinking ship like frings

[v00d00daddy]

God I hate long throws. LOL

It's so bush league. Put the ball on the turf on a teammates foot and get on with it.

Going from having possession to putting up a 50/50 ball never makes sense to me.

Why do teams do this? It's not like it works often.

Maybe SKC does it a lot cause Kamara can jump a hundred feet in the air. LOL

[TFC07]

*yawn*

[[NBF]]

lol@Hall, going to catch the foul ball.

[Dkolish3]

That was stupid, Hall don't do that again

[DaBandit]

I'll say 5-0 for the team playing 4-3-3.

Mariner has destroyed whatever hope remained in this team, he is now in the process of burning down whatever talent remains. After his scorched earth policy, rebuilding will take years, not just one season.

It's too late for protests, Tom Anselmi has managed to destroy most of the goodwill surrounding this team. So few people care about this team anymore.

Couldn't be better said on all points..

[Ajax TFC]

;1525351']No draft pick in the first round, because TFC needed it to get Hassli. So essentially we're playing hoofball so Vancouver can have a nice 1st pick.
I believe it was the 2014 pick that he gave up for Hassli. I guess he figured that he might still be around in 2013 so he'd screw over the next manager instead

[TFC07]

God I hate long throws. LOL

It's so bush league. Put the ball on the turf on a teammates foot and get on with it.

Going from having possession to putting up a 50/50 ball never makes sense to me.

Why do teams do this? It's not like it works often.

Maybe SKC does it a lot cause Kamara can jump a hundred feet in the air. LOL

Yeah, it's really annoying to see long throw ins all the time especially since it's a player a minute to throw the ball which kills the flow of game

On a side note, I am only one thinking KC is playing poorly so far?

[[NBF]]

God I hate long throws. LOL

It's so bush league. Put the ball on the turf on a teammates foot and get on with it.

Going from having possession to putting up a 50/50 ball never makes sense to me.

Why do teams do this? It's not like it works often.

Maybe SKC does it a lot cause Kamara can jump a hundred feet in the air. LOL

To be fair TFC defenders dont have the physical traits to defend vs Kai Kamara in the air. So its not a bad idea to cross it to Kamara once in a while.

[Eastend]

Watching this team now is like watching a car crash, you know it's bad but you just can't help yourself.

I'm a 40 something guy ready to cry over a team I've followed and promoted for the last 6 years while the owners have been trying to kill it at every step because of their inability to do anything right for any prolonged period.

I am really sad.


Dom

Come on you Reds!!

[Yohan]

Lol. Even rongen thinks hall sucks as defender

[DaBandit]

Frings not playing because of hip issues? Frings going back to Germany to see his doctor.

I have a feeling that the Santos game was the last we'll see of Frings.. Tis Pity Mariner threw him under the bus, instead of taking the heat himself for his lack of a game plan..

[Yohan]

Amarikwa haz really poor first touch

[DaBandit]

;1525351']No draft pick in the first round, because TFC needed it to get Hassli. So essentially we're playing hoofball so Vancouver can have a nice 1st pick.

you're talking about the wrong draft year..

[Eastend]

I have a feeling that the Santos game was the last we'll see of Frings.. Tis Pity Mariner threw him under the bus, instead of taking the heat himself for his lack of a game plan..

This was my thinking after that game. Our club is in the worst spot we've EVER been in.

I want season 1 back.

Dom

[ChrisFizik]

there is indeed alot of business talk from the commentators but man, it's better than hearing Dobson or whoever slagging TFC off all game and bigging up the opposing side....

[Yohan]

No way tfc can hold on. Kc is all over tfc defence

[Yohan]

Would have been amazing goal from weedman.

[Code Red]

I don't know what's worse... this team or its' commentators? Rongen is an embarrassment to the broadcasting field and Dunlevy is on crack if he thinks Toronto has an atmosphere at BMO Field.

...and how is it that it's still 0-0?

[v00d00daddy]

Ummmm....Does Mariner still have tape holding his glasses together? LOL

Seriously dude...hit up a Hakim or something.

[Eastend]

Wave after wave of KC attack......but wow, TFC scores!!!!

[Yohan]

Omg out of the blue

[TFC07]

LMAO! TFC scored! Johnson with goal!

KC is playing poorly and they pay for it.

[v00d00daddy]

Hahahaha. That's amazing.

[Benficachop20]

do nothing. score goal. we'll still blow it

[Suds]

nice ball from Eks ... that was some shockingly bad defending on KC's part

[Couchy81]

Ecks to Johnson, the only possible path the ball can take to get to the back of the net.

[Parkdale]

wow... going up at the half.

enough with the Pat Benetar.....

but still... nice!

[DaBandit]

This was my thinking after that game. Our club is in the worst spot we've EVER been in.

I want season 1 back.

Dom

it certainly feels that way.. No matter how many times the propaganda machine at ML$E and it's crones (Dunleavy and others) tell me how much better we are now..

Wow Johnson, as I type this we're up 1-0 and i just dont get it how... lol

[ChrisFizik]

Talk faster Logan! Faster!

[Suds]

KC will be in the dressing room asking how the hell could they be down a goal

[Parkdale]

do nothing. score goal. we'll still blow it

hmm... I'm actually happy that we scored. Imagine that ?!

seems like there's a lot of people who are hoping the team loses just so they can say 'I knew this team was crap'.

I'd rather see my team win. call me crazy

[DaBandit]

there is indeed alot of business talk from the commentators but man, it's better than hearing Dobson or whoever slagging TFC off all game and bigging up the opposing side....

Hear hear Chris, nothing can be as bad as having to listening to Dobson.. lol

[jabbronies]

Would like to see Quincy Jamiroquai and Silva hook up more. Those two need to let their creativity shine off of one another. If they can gel, they should be a decent combo.

[Nerepis]

Why is Mariner still wearing the same broken glasses, is it a good luck charm, as we've been doing sooo well of late. Is he not getting paid enough to replace them. Winter was a class act, dressed impeccably, this clown I almost expect to see dressed in a Metro Stars jersey from Value Village.

[Gazza]

Johnson hit them with his best shot.

KC never expected us to get into a scoring position. Way to lull them into sleep boys!

[iy12l]

Why is Mariner still wearing the same broken glasses, is it a good luck charm, as we've been doing sooo well of late. Is he not getting paid enough to replace them. Winter was a class act, dressed impeccably, this clown I almost expect to see dressed in a Metro Stars jersey from Value Village.

Also, Mariner never took his shorts off since he has been hired.

[Gazza]

hmm... I'm actually happy that we scored. Imagine that ?!

seems like there's a lot of people who are hoping the team loses just so they can say 'I knew this team was crap'.

I'd rather see my team win. call me crazy

You so crazy!

[Parkdale]

now why are the promos cut to dubstep? too many whomps

[flatpicker]

I vote we get Crazy Parky out of this thread.
Such a distraction.

[TFC07]

To be honest, I don't understand why some fans want to criticize Mariner what he does on side line and wear during the game. Problem with Mariner is his tactics and player selection (man management).

[Lennon]

lmao at this Weedman interview ..
talking about squeeking into the playoffs and then having "a good a shot as anyone to take the title" :D

[DaBandit]

lmao at this Weedman interview ..
talking about squeeking into the playoffs and then having "a good a shot as anyone to take the title" :D

LOL.. What is ML$E and Mariner giving these guys to smoke?? Can I have some too?

[Gazza]

lmao at this Weedman interview ..
talking about squeeking into the playoffs and then having "a good a shot as anyone to take the title" :D

Curse his optimism! Once he's old and bitter like us, he'll change his tune!

[Lennon]

I believe it was the 2014 pick that he gave up for Hassli. I guess he figured that he might still be around in 2013 so he'd screw over the next manager instead

Yea, thank god it wasn't this year's draft pick we gave up ..

[DaBandit]

Curse his optimism! Once he's old and bitter like us, he'll change his tune!

LOL nice post.. this is so true.. btw, i'm old and bitter as well..

[Auzzy]

lmao at this Weedman interview ..
talking about squeeking into the playoffs and then having "a good a shot as anyone to take the title" :D

Wow awesome, can I have some of that weed man?

[DaBandit]

Halftime stats

KC TFC STAT
13 2 AOG
2 1 SOT
262 100 Total Passes
87% 65% Pass Accuracy
42% 58% Duels Won
71.5% 28.5% Possession

[Yohan]

Jeremy hall makes nick garcia look like a superstar on 1v1for defending

[iy12l]

Whats freddy hall doing with his hands

[Blizzard]

;1525355']Wasnt that the worst sight to watch TFC in that baseball stadium. It was so short it was about 3/4 of the field right now.

It was pretty damned weird ... on TV anyway.

[Yohan]

Dear lord. Johnson brought his shooting boots

[DaBandit]

unlucky well struck by johnson..

[Gazza]

Dear lord. Johnson brought his shooting boots

Hopefully Hall brought his saving gloves.

[iy12l]

Why the fk is dunfield heading the ball back to the defender

[Couchy81]

Man if he scored there I would have lost it.

[Gazza]

"Whooo the fuck are Kansas Citeh?
Whooo the fuck are Kansas Citeh?
Whooo the fuck are Kansas Citeh?

As the pufter blues can go fuck off, off, off!"

[Oldtimer]

It's a major embarrassment for KC to be down to TFC at this point. TFC could even pull one away (unlikely though).

[Blizzard]

I have a feeling that the Santos game was the last we'll see of Frings.. Tis Pity Mariner threw him under the bus, instead of taking the heat himself for his lack of a game plan..

I totally agree. Mariner should be ashamed of himself for embarassing a legend like that ... even if there was a basis in fact for such a statement. Torsten Frings deserves better from a guy who should know better .... another former international.

I would not be surprised one iota if this isn't just a smoke screen that allows Torsten to go home (sick to death of the rubbish), get paid for the rest of the year and then retire.

[iy12l]

dunfield is fucking clueless

[gracos]

are there Toronto fans, at the game in KC, or does it just sound like our chant

[Gazza]

Oh Freddy :(

[Yohan]

Lol. Set piece again

[gracos]

Terry Dunfield is out for the next game, lol, even though he has international duty

[Dkolish3]

Well then, It happens

[jabbronies]

what a fucking goal!! Sierra Mist Goal of the Week for sure!

[Furtado91]

and with that we are now tied. here comes the shiticane.

[DaBandit]

lucky goal...

[Blowing Bubbles]

well there goes the fearless leaders plan to punt the ball away for the rest of the 2nd half

[jloome]

Well then, It happens

Given that Hall was nearly six yards off his line even though they were at the edge of our area, that gets my vote for second dumbest TFC goal ever, after Kenny Stamatoupoulis getting burned by Michael Parkhurts from 60 yards.

[Eastend]

What the fuck is with these in game interviews with the coach. That is fucking bush.

[Blowing Bubbles]

"no frills football, we're not going to take any chances"


what a douche

[Benficachop20]

throwing the players under the bus again.

[starter]

Well, this is unfortunate. We were clearly on the right track with about 10% of possession ... :D

[DaBandit]

it 'No Frills' football.. I now see the new STH campaign slogan... LOL

[Gazza]

Well, this is unfortunate. We were clearly on the right track with about 10% of possession ... :D

Playing outside of our comfort zone. Bound to get burned. At 9%, Hall would've tipped that over the bar.

[Furtado91]

What the fuck is with these in game interviews with the coach. That is fucking bush.

Its so annoying and you always see the coach trying to focus on the game. they should cut that crap out. Interview before or after a game. not during the bloody game.

[jabbronies]

anyone know who the commentators are?

[Section 117]

That was Sunday league goaltending. Both Halls (Jeremy & Freddie) should never see the pitch again after tonight period.

On a side note Weidman has played quite well along with Ryan Johnson

[Yohan]

Dunleavy and rongen, who sound like a retarded scot lol

[Eastend]

it 'No Frills' football.. I now see the new STH campaign... LOL

STH Renewal campaign slogan right there:

Renew now!
NoFrill Football @ NoFrill Prices!!


Dom

[DaBandit]

I totally agree. Mariner should be ashamed of himself for embarassing a legend like that ... even if there was a basis in fact for such a statement. Torsten Frings deserves better from a guy who should know better .... another former international.

I would not be surprised one iota if this isn't just a smoke screen that allows Torsten to go home (sick to death of the rubbish), get paid for the rest of the year and then retire.

exactly, unfortunately its the standard philosophy at TFC.. Our management team has been classless since day 1 so why change now.

[Eastend]

That was Sunday league goaltending. Both Halls (Jeremy & Freddie) should never see the pitch again after tonight period.

On a side note Weidman has played quite well along with Ryan Johnson

I play goal on Sundays and I take offence. I have NEVER let a goal in like that.

Dom

[Toronto_Bhoy]

Doesn't MLSE have an optical plan for it's employees?

FFS! This is the second game in a row that Mariner's had his glasses taped up!

LOL!

[gracos]

So why am I always watching the games, even though I know Toronto wont win, and feel awful about it???

[anto7]

Doesn't MLSE have an optical plan for it's employees?

FFS! This is the second game in a row that Mariner's had his glasses taped up!

LOL!
Jack Duckworth would be proud !

[Eastend]

Can you imagine the team we'd have had we treated right and kept all the players we let go over the last few years?

Dom

[ag futbol]

"no frills football, we're not going to take any chances"


what a douche
Basically says: I risked noting, I gained nothing, but it was "really close".... Except that it wasn't lol

[Eastend]

Where is our fucking midfield? (no response required).

[ChrisFizik]

Jack Duckworth would be proud !

lol, nice. Had to look it up to confirm, but yes. (what, like I watch Coronation)

[Yohan]

And kc brings on a barca youth product. Sigh

[Eastend]

Fuckin' eh? Nice play there.

[Yohan]

Jesus. Where did that build up play come from? Shock

[anto7]

lol, nice. Had to look it up to confirm, but yes. (what, like I watch Coronation)
Have not watched it in years but I do remember Jack being a laughable character, jus like Mariner !

[jloome]

Where is our fucking midfield? (no response required).

In Germany, it sounds like.

[Eastend]

Time for some fresh legs for a push?

[TFC07]

Time for some fresh legs for a push?

Mariner doesn't want to jinx it.

[jloome]

We're bunkered in too deep, both central mids right in front of our box. We're going to lose this game if KC doesn't run out of time.

[Blowing Bubbles]

Basically says: I risked noting, I gained nothing, but it was "really close".... Except that it wasn't lol

meh, we just launch the ball over them anyway

[Section 117]

I play goal on Sundays and I take offence. I have NEVER let a goal in like that.

Dom

I apologize to all Sunday league players. I guess we can say it was quite amateurish

[gracos]

cant believe they told us to watch playoffs, im sorry but i dont have time to waste to watch other teams win something we cant even get to play for

[Eastend]

These 2 commentators must shit puppies and rainbows with the rose coloured view they have of this team.

Dom

[leafsman]

this goalie is brutal

[jloome]

Aaaannnd, right on cue.

[ryan]

LOL!

[Eastend]

Good night!

[Suds]

and there it is

[Benficachop20]

some great goalkeeping by hall. yup im sure he's better than kocic.

[TFC07]

Hall sucks! He should have save that shot.

[gracos]

send Freddy Hall back to Bermuda for a seashell, might get the job done

[Ajax TFC]

To be honest, I don't understand why some fans want to criticize Mariner what he does on side line and wear during the game. Problem with Mariner is his tactics and player selection (man management).
because its fucking unprofessional. This is a professional soccer league, he should treat it like one and look and act like a professional

[Furtado91]

Even when Sporting K.C plays like crap. they still can take a lead. This Coach is absolaute fucking grabage. the Players are partly to blame as well. this shit show is just unbelivable

[bones]

beyond shit.

[v00d00daddy]

So.......no subs used. We had a point at our fingertips and some fresh legs would have helped. Instead....Mariner does nothing. Literally nothing.

I wish a cameraman had taken a shot of Kocic on the bench right after the second goal went in. I wonder if he'd be able to keep a smirk off his face.

In terms of the game....well, KC looked like they were bored to sleep on the defensive end so when TFC mustered a push once every 25 minutes KC looked disinterested and flat footed.

[leafsman]

how do you not make any subs in the whole game, this coach just gets worse and worse

[ensco]

Focus people. This is good. Need to solidify first pick in Superdraft.

[Nerepis]

Is controlling the ball at least 50% considered a frill?

[ChrisFizik]

'easy all.


thanks for some board entertainment this evening.

breathe/forget/enjoy rest of weekend.

[Red CB Toronto]

So who is making the trip to New York in a few weeks, first weekend game in the Big Apple since 2009, so why not come out and support the boys, they need us more than ever right now. A weekend in New York is never a bad thing.

[jloome]

That was some repugnant shit, right there. Kocic probably -- probably -- doesn't let either of those in.

But when you're pushed back for 90 minutes with no possession what's to be expected.

[Yohan]

This loss is all on freddy hall. If kocic is not playing next game, im going on a protest

[Furtado91]

So.......no subs used. We had a point at our fingertips and some fresh legs would have helped. Instead....Mariner does nothing. Literally nothing.

I wish a cameraman had taken a shot of Kocic on the bench right after the second goal went in. I wonder if he'd be able to keep a smirk off his face.

In terms of the game....well, KC looked like they were bored to sleep on the defensive end so when TFC mustered a push once every 25 minutes KC looked disinterested and flat footed.


Whats funny is that his Boy Duncecap is suspended next game. Mariner is probably gonna be sad and feel empty without his boy out there. But using no Subs is just stupid. especially since the product on the pitch wasnt working after Kansas tied the game or the players looked tired.

[jloome]

Whats funny is that his Boy Duncecap is suspended next game. Mariner is probably gonna be sad and feel empty without his boy out there. But using no Subs is just stupid. especially since the product on the pitch wasnt working after Kansas tied the game.

Holy crap, outshot 24-6. That's just dreadful

[Benficachop20]

hmm... I'm actually happy that we scored. Imagine that ?!

seems like there's a lot of people who are hoping the team loses just so they can say 'I knew this team was crap'.

I'd rather see my team win. call me crazy

hey be happy all u want. I was just being realistic. We did nothing to deserve that goal and i was right that we would blow it.

[69Chevy396]

Focus people. This is good. Need to solidify first pick in Superdraft.
Didn't that pick get traded away?

[Davenport]

The Serbian boy is head and shoulders a better keeper than Hall.

If he dived in front of a bus it would go under him.

No subs in 90 minutes of hot, humid temperatures ?

What a joke of a coach.

[Dkolish3]

Focus people. This is good. Need to solidify first pick in Superdraft.

Didn't we trade our pick to Vancouver for Hassli?

[ryan]

3 more years of Mariner!


Anyone got some rope and a tree I could borrow?

[Code Red]

The only surprise from this scoreline is that we lost 2-1. With the possession (71% - 29%) and chances that KC had (Attempts 24-6 Shots 6-2) , it should have been 5-1.

Keep up the good work coach. Who needs "Total Football" when you have "No Frills Football"!

[Davenport]

3 more years of Mariner!


Anyone got some rope and a tree I could borrow?

Why...you want to hang him ????!!!!!!! Lynch mob !!!!!!!!

[Couchy81]

I think it's time someone hired an appropriate reporter for this team.

http://cdn4.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2011/02/ghd_billmurray_1.jpg

[Furtado91]

The only surprise from this scoreline is that we lost 2-1. With the possession (71% - 29%) and chances that KC had (Attempts 24-6 Shots 6-2) , it should have been 5-1.

Keep up the good work coach. Who needs "Total Football" when you have "No Frills Football"!

Hey Nofrills has that 1 2 and 3 dollar sale going on right now. nothing wrong with nofrills :P.

[Auzzy]

STH Renewal campaign slogan right there:

Renew now!
NoFrill Football @ NoFrill Prices!!

Dom

I think what you meant to say, was NoFrill Football at Pusateri Prices.

And I take offence to that. I usually shop at NoFrills. The quality of product that Mariner puts on the pitch is available for free from the trash can behind your neighbourhood greasy spoon.

[Richard]

Cant wait to see the spin from Larson after this. Mariner i think is really destroying this organization now, players are jumping ship and this will yet again be another black eye to the team. The only hope is a complete reset, i fear though Bogers wont think this chernobyl(No offense to anyone) because thats what this organization is now, rotten to the core a completely pathetic.

[69Chevy396]

The lasting memory of this season will be Koeverman telling the reporters this is the worst team in the world.

[DaBandit]

because its fucking unprofessional. This is a professional soccer league, he should treat it like one and look and act like a professional

I have been saying this since the first game when he showed up in shorts and was acting like a buffoon on the sidelines.. Act as a professional, not some guy coaching an under 13 house league team on a Thursday night.

Thoughts on the game.

J. Hall is horrible, he cant tackle if his life depended on it. What happened to the guy that played so well in his 1st game for us.. no wonder Chicago dumped this dude.. an MLS castoff in our starting lineup...

F. Hall, horrible 2nd goal, any two bit sunday league goalie (no offence to any sunday league goalies on the board g:D ) should have and would have saved that... another castoff in our starting lineup..

Maund, didnt even notice him, but apparently in was starting for us tonight.. did anyone actually see him kick a ball?

Amerikwa.. Man he's fast, he must be good.. nope he's useless... another castoff in our starting lineup..

Weedman, actually i thought the last two games he's been serviceable. but another cast off in our starting lineup.. Do we see a trend here?? You really could add a few more guys to the castoff list (Dunfield)..

Anyways i really thought Mariner did a great job with his subs tonight.. 100% accurate with the subs.. what? whats that? he did use any... SHOCKING that such a master tactician would not use a single sub.. What a CLOWN!!!

On a positive note.. Silva is by far the best draft pick we have ever had.. he seems to be growing into a better and better player by the game. For this I will give Mariner a shred of praise as Winter didn't seem to like Silva as much or was purposely bringing him along slower..

Anyways another horrible game to watch and another loss... No Frills Football at its best... PS. dont forget to renew..

[Code Red]

Hey Nofrills has that 1 2 and 3 dollar sale going on right now. nothing wrong with nofrills :P.

You're right, I shouldn't offend No Frills like that. At least they have a vision and a philosophy unlike this joke of an organization.

[Ajax TFC]

Even when Sporting K.C plays like crap. they still can take a lead. This Coach is absolaute fucking grabage. the Players are partly to blame as well. this shit show is just unbelivable
Hard to blame the players if you look at where they were before they came here
Hall - Free agent, previously a backup in league 2
Hall - given to us for next to nothing by Dallas after being very poor for them
Eckersley - Championship
O'dea - Celtic
Emory - NASL
Dunfield - was given to us by Vancouver after he wasn't good enough to make the move up from USSF D2
Maund - NCAA
Wiedeman - FCD not playing any games
Johnson - SJ where the fans were more than happy to get rid of him, and overjoyed to have actually gotten something for him
Amerikwa - released by the Crapids
Silva - NCAA

In otherwords, a team full of rejects and players from lower levels and combinations of both, plus Eckersley and O'dea

You can't blame the players that they are simply inferior. Who's the one who selects these guys?

[Luanda]

The only surprise from this scoreline is that we lost 2-1. With the possession (71% - 29%) and chances that KC had (Attempts 24-6 Shots 6-2) , it should have been 5-1.

Keep up the good work coach. Who needs "Total Football" when you have "No Frills Football"!

The problem with the "No Frills Football" is that it makes you vomit.

The F* Hall experiment MUST, surely, be dead! Next move on from Mariner (who should never have replaced Winter as many, too many people on this board clamoured for).

[Code Red]

The problem with the "No Frills Football" is that it makes you vomit.

The F* Hall experiment MUST, surely, be dead! Next move on from Mariner (who should never have replaced Winter as many, too many people on this board clamoured for).

Mariner weasled himself into the job. Nobody was happier to see Winter get the boot than Mariner himself. I'm surprised he didn't "accidentally" throw him under a bus.

[v00d00daddy]

I think you guys misheard Mariner.

Pretty sure he said No Frings football. Lol

My prediction is that next year we see:

No Frings
No Koevermans
An inconsistent Hassli
O Dea as the poster boy captain (get ready for the O Dea PR onslaught)
And Mariner on the touch lines with the same busted tactics, player selection and eye glasses.

Lol

If it wasn't so funny I'd cry.

[69Chevy396]

As long as you and 15000 others pay up front for season tickets nothing will change-this is the MLSE disease and once stricken it is harder to fix than a Canadian submarine.

[ag futbol]

TFC season 7: because losing with an English coach is so much better than losing with a dutch one.

[Auzzy]

Wow, Kurtis Larson still fellating Mariner on Twitter, even after that abysmal display. Unfuckingbelievable.

[Pookie]

Well, at least our subs are well rested

[Couchy81]

Wow, Kurtis Larson still fellating Mariner on Twitter, even after that abysmal display. Unfuckingbelievable.

Ironic that a reporter for The Sun is making comments that a shitty game is good enough for him, huh.

[69Chevy396]

I figured out why Mariner is jumping up and down like an ape-He is a practitioner of hands-free masturbation.

[Code Red]

Wow, Kurtis Larson still fellating Mariner on Twitter, even after that abysmal display. Unfuckingbelievable.

Probably sleeping in the same bed. :sheep:

If it helps him sleep at night, then why not?

[Benficachop20]

whats the record for the longest winless streak?

[gracos]

longest losing streak in the MLS: 9 Games, TFC, 2012

[Mak]

Disgusting game. I am at a loss for words. I'm a season tic holder from day 1 and not quite ready to give up...but fuck am I close. There is zero coordination out there....visually it is indescribable how shit the product looks like. Wtf happened to Mariner's tweak?mwhat he piece of shit he has turned out to be. Outside of the Eurpeans....Mariner was the dipshit that picked up these fucking rejects.

[Canary10]

If it wasn't for that Portland draw we could be the only team with a double 9 game losing streak in one season! Typical TFC.

Wish everyone would cut out the attacking of Kurt Larson. At least he cares and knows a bit about how the team works. There aren't many who do. I don't agree with him, but he's got a view at least. If you're going to criticize, do it without the vulagrity at least.

[Mak]

There has to be some sort of protest....any townhalls announced yet?

[gracos]

Can paper bags be done at a TFC game, too show enough is enough, and its time for a change


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyooALwfxO8

[Mak]

Just watched Mariner's post game interview....what afucking joke. From top to bottom people need to get fucken fired ASAP. He's talking about next year positively with the current roster????? Fucken retard....he is just trying to save his job. If there were any football minded people running this team he would not have been given the opportunity in the first place.

[v00d00daddy]

Just watched Mariner's post game interview....what afucking joke. From top to bottom people need to get fucken fired ASAP. He's talking about next year positively with the current roster????? Fucken retard....he is just trying to save his job. If there were any football minded people running this team he would not have been given the opportunity in the first place.

I just watched it as well.

Have no fear folks. Mariner says we're really close to being a good team.

He's so full of absolute shit.

[gracos]

absolute garbage coming out of Mariners mouth, Mariner just resign so we dont have to force you out, sooner than later we will get it right, especially know Bogers wants a winning product, this wont be able to get us wins come next year as much as it wont get us wins this year

[Canary10]

I just watched it as well.

Have no fear folks. Mariner says we're really close to being a good team.

He's so full of absolute shit.

I can't believe he's still being defended. It's all there to see on the pitch.

[JuliquE]

hmm... I'm actually happy that we scored. Imagine that ?!

seems like there's a lot of people who are hoping the team loses just so they can say 'I knew this team was crap'.

I'd rather see my team win. call me crazy
Wrong.

Someone's made a champion's post, with that Ground-hog Day picture; we've seen this script, over and over and are simply out of optimism.

Although fewer in numbers, now, we still care. As ever, before/during each game, we'll attempt to predict the end result and, after what we've seen from this coach -- no subs and poor selections/tactics, to begin with -- the result seems clear. Now, if they are forecasting a loss for the club they care about, chances are they aren't happy about it and it shows in their delivery.

I used to set an alarm to be up for the matches and be absolutely livid with myself, if I slept through. I woke up, strangely enough, almost exactly after the match, this morning and was pretty sure of the result in my mind and, thus, felt no ways about it.

Having said that, I would wager that, despite some of the sarcasm, every single one of these guys you claim aren't happy about us scoring at least wore a smile when the ball hits the back of the net -- I'm the same way, at the moment and there isn't a goal by any other team that can affect me more than one from TFC.

I just don't think it's fair, from you.. just as it's seen as unfair for people to say that anyone renewing is an idiot and rightly so; we all have our reasons and aren't just randomly deciding what we feel, on the day.

At worst, there are a contingent amongst us hopeful that we lose -- yes.. but, with, hopefully, the ends justifying the means (i.e. Mariner canned) and not just for the sake of being right on the internet.

C'mon, man.

[daner90]

Apparently Rogers did me a great service as MLSE owners because my cable went out and I didn't have to watch what sounded to be a horrible game...

[Soccerpro]

Paul Mariner put Freddy Hall in net over Milos Kocic. At the very least, the biggest reason why Paul Mariner is responsible for this loss.

Glad I didn't drive down 21 hours from Northern Manitoba to watch them blow it in K.C for a second time this season.

[OgtheDim]

Frings gone, possible forever.

Mariner talking about next year. (Does anybody trust him with another DP slot?)

Well, at least we scored but.........ugh. An ugly week for TFC.

[__wowza]

544
Total Pass
210


87%
Passing Accuracy %
68%


71.1%
Possession
28.9%



all you need to know about the game being played in against a team who could make a 4-3-3 work..

[backbeat]

hmm... I'm actually happy that we scored. Imagine that ?!

seems like there's a lot of people who are hoping the team loses just so they can say 'I knew this team was crap'.

I'd rather see my team win. call me crazy

you've got to be kidding....

even when we went ahead we were shite....i was thrilled we scored but NEVER hopeful the way we were playing....

Mariner has dismantled a team that was at least going in the right direction imho and set us way back....

as i said in another thread - Mariner has a huge ego that gets in the way of logic both organizationally and for the team

we would have been far better off long term, if Winter had remained, even though the season would have been lost...we're now fucked for a few years

Mariner said when he took over as head coach that he just needed to tinker with the team - well he has dismantled it instead ....

[SirBobSaget]

At the end of the telecast rongen was pretty much speechless, only jumped in sporadically after being urhed into the cOnvo to say the players on the pitch wete way Overmatched. The orher guy ( dunleavy??) kept trying to play up the great tfc by gushing on about the amazing scoring chances that should have led to 4-2 win

[jazzy]

At the end of the telecast rongen was pretty much speechless, only jumped in sporadically after being urhed into the cOnvo to say the players on the pitch wete way Overmatched. The orher guy ( dunleavy??) kept trying to play up the great tfc by gushing on about the amazing scoring chances that should have led to 4-2 win

^^thats they requirement to be the home team.....to be team positive...Rongren was positive for the most part but even he was too honest when Hall dropped the ball and by admitting the tfc players weren't up to par talent wise .

[Wingback6]

Missed the end of the game, but I understand Hall fucked up. No surprise there. He's terrible. The only reason he's in net is because of Mariners side project. If it wasn't for these shenanigans with Hall and Lambe I'd rate Mariner as a coach, but this is pathetically un-professional and probably the reason no other club would hire him. Also, O'Dea is so over rated. He's barely as good a defender as Nana was, except that he doesn't shut up. The defense has actually gone backwards since he's joined since he can't play the ball to save his life. What's worse, he's been made Captain, despite the fact that none of the players appear to have any respect for him. He is a clown, just like Mariner.

[TFC07]

Missed the end of the game, but I understand Hall fucked up. No surprise there. He's terrible. The only reason he's in net is because of Mariners side project. If it wasn't for these shenanigans with Hall and Lambe I'd rate Mariner as a coach, but this is pathetically un-professional and probably the reason no other club would hire him. Also, O'Dea is so over rated. He's barely as good a defender as Nana was, except that he doesn't shut up. The defense has actually gone backwards since he's joined since he can't play the ball to save his life. What's worse, he's been made Captain, despite the fact that none of the players appear to have any respect for him. He is a clown, just like Mariner.

Agreed with O'Dea.

I mention how O'Dea isn't the answer and him getting captain armband doesn't mean he's a great leader. Also, I mention how he can't play the ball with his feet as well.

But people refuse to recognize that and believe hype created by TFC FO instead. lol

[ag futbol]

Agreed with O'Dea.

I mention how O'Dea isn't the answer and him getting captain armband doesn't mean he's a great leader. Also, I mention how he can't play the ball with his feet as well.

But people refuse to recognize that and believe hype created by TFC FO instead. lol
Noticed this as well. We really are modeling ourselves after a 1970s league 1 team....

[Pookie]

Rongren is the yin and yang when it comes to commentary, often within the span of minutes. I remember raising an eyebrow when it was 1-1 and Silva's chance was stopped in the 80 something minute. He remarked, if he scores it's 2-1 and game over.

I thought, well yeah, if they can withstand the next 10 SKC shots that are coming. Then they give up the goal and it s about quality and lack of possession.

[Shakes McQueen]

The Tee-eff-sees lost a match of the footballs? Oh no!

- Scott

[OgtheDim]

The Tee-eff-sees lost a match of the footballs? Oh no!

- Scott

Not many people in here actually discussing the loss.

Its the drama around the losses.

Kocic

Frings

To speak of just two.

New management of this team can't come soon enough, and it better draw a line around all this off pitch meanderings.