Where are they from and what's the record?

[BayernTFC]

I was inspired by the comments in multiple discussions on this forum about where TFC should be scouting talent from and how successful management has been with the players they've selected from particular regions. I'll post the tables as I finish them and any desired information can be added as needed. Here's a start:

TFC Players from the Caribbean



Player (games played)

Country
Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team
Next Team


Kilian Elkinson (0)

Bermuda

John Carver
($12,900)

John Carver
($12,900)

Upper Canada College

University of Toronto



Lesly Fellinga (4)

Haiti
Chris Cummins
($36,000)
Preki
($36,000)
SC Heerenveen
Harkemase Boys


Freddy Hall (0)

Bermuda
Paul Mariner
(?)
(?)
Northampton Town



Julius James (16)

Trinida & Tobago
Mo Johnston
($44,750)
John Carver
($44,750)
University of Connecticut
Houston Dynamo


Ryan Johnson (46)

Jamaica
Aron Winter
($131,250)
($137,813)
San Jose Earthquakes



Reggie Lambe (22)

Bermuda
Aron Winter
($62,500)
($62,500)
Ipswich Town



Tyrone Marshall (43)

Jamaica
Mo Johnston
($149,500)
John Carver
($153,750)
LA Galaxy
Seattle Sounders


Javier Martina (25)

Curacao
Aron Winter
($96,140.75)
Aron Winter
($96,140.75)
AFC Ajax II
Unattached


Collin Samuel (19)

Trinidad & Tobago
Mo Johnston
($115,000)
John Carver
($115,000)
Dundee United
St. Johnstone


Marco Velez (46)

Puerto Rico
John Carver
($60,500)
Chris Cummins
($63,500)
Puerto Rico Islanders
Puerto Rico Islanders


O'Brian White (42)

Jamaica
John Carver
($113,000)
Nick Dasovic
($182,000)
University of Connecticut
Seattle Sounders


Dicoy Williams (11)

Jamaica
Aron Winter
($50,004)
($52,500)
Harbour View FC





If anyone knows who was responsible for the recruitment of a particular player, they can post comments. Whatever helps to compare the records of each management team @ TFC

[BayernTFC]

TFC Players from Central America



Player (games played)

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Efraín Burgos Jr (2)

El Salvador
Aron Winter
($33,750)
Paul Mariner
($33,750)
California Polytechnic State University
Unattached


Amado Guevara (49)

Honduras
John Carver
($185,750)
Preki
($323,750)
Chivas USA
CD Motagua


Carlos Ruiz (5)

Guatemala
John Carver
($460,000)
John Carver
($460,000)
LA Galaxy
Club Olimpia





TFC Players from South America



Player (games played)

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Paulo Nagamura (4)

Brazil
Mo Johnston
($89,250)
Mo Johnston
($89,250)
LA Galaxy
Chivas USA


Joao Plata (50)

Ecuador
Aron Winter
($42,000)
($50,000 + $500K TF)
LDU Quito



Maicon Santos (40)

Brazil
Preki
($93,000)
Aron Winter
($126,000)
Chivas USA
FC Dallas


Martin Saric (21)

Argentina
Preki
($90,000)
Nick Dasovic
($90,000)
NK Celje
Sportivo Luqeno


Pablo Vitti (32)

Argentina
John Carver
($303,000)
Preki
($303,000)
Independiente
Universidad San Martin





TFC Players from Africa



Player (games played)

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Danleigh Borman (28)

South Africa
Aron Winter
($42,000)
Aron Winter
($42,000)
Red Bull NY
Super Sport United


Emmanuel Gomez (9)

Gambia
John Carver
($41,300)
Aron Winter
($45,600)
Samger FC
Samger FC


Abbe Ibrahim (1)

Togo
Mo Johnston
($31,250)
Mo Johnston
($31,250)
Red Bull NY
Väsby United


Joseph Nane (17)

Cameroon
Preki
($40,000)
Nick Dasovic
($40,000)
Old Dominion University
Colorado Rapids


Amadou Sanyang (20)

Gambia
John Carver
($40,563)
Nick Dasovic
($46,555)
Real de Banjul
Seattle Sounders FC


Tony Tchani (17)

Cameroon
Aron Winter
($194,000)
Aron Winter
($194,000)
Red Bull NY
Columbus Crew


Olivier Tebily (5)

Ivory Coast
John Carver
(?)
John Carver
(?)
Birmingham City
retired





Oceania, Europe, Canada, and the US are still to come.

[__wowza]

i wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway..

[TOBOR !]

Crikey.

[BayernTFC]

I added player salaries. I believe the inclusion of the salaries helps to explain the story.


TFC Players from Oceania



Player (games played)

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Andrew Boyens (23)

New Zealand
Mo Johnston
($47,500)
John Carver
($43,750)
University of New Mexico
Red Bull NY


Jarrod Smith (24)

New Zealand
Mo Johnston
($36,000)
John Carver
($36,000)
West Virginia University
Seattle Sounders FC





TFC Players from Europe



Player (games played)

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Elbekay Bouchiba (0)

Netherlands

Aron Winter
($92,004)
Aron Winter
($92,004)
Al-Shamal Sports Club
Unattached


Danny Dichio (68)

England
Mo Johnston
($165,625)
Chris Cummins
($120,000)
Preston North End
retired


Richard Eckersley (60)

England
Aron Winter
($90,000)
($390,000)
Burnley



Stefan Frei (96)

Switzerland
John Carver
($120,000)
($175,000)
University of California, Berkeley



Torsten Frings (40)

Germany
Aron Winter
($1,113,662.67)
($2,413,666.67)
SV Werder Bremen



Leandre Griffit (1)

France
Aron Winter
($55,000)
Aron Winter
($55,000)
Columbus Crew
AS Aulnoye-Aymeries


Eric Hassli (1)

France
Paul Mariner
($790,000)
($790,000)
Vancouver Whitecaps FC



Raivis Hscanovics (17)

Latvia
Preki
($120,250)
Nick Dasovic
($120,250)
FC Skonto Riga
FK Daugava Riga


Andy Iro (18)

England
Aron Winter
($87,346)
Aron Winter
($87,346)
Columbus Crew
Unattached


Milos Kocic (47)

Serbia
Preki
($40,000)
($44,100)
DC United



Danny Koevermans (35)

Netherlands
Aron Winter
($1,413,319.33)
($1,563,323.33)
PSV Eindhoven



Mista (14)

Spain
Preki
($987,337.50)
Nick Dasovic
($987,337.50)
Deportivo La Coruña
Retired


Ronnie O'Brien (13)

Ireland
Mo Johnston
($258,750)
Mo Johnston
($258,750)
FC Dallas
San Jose Earthquakes


Darren O'Dea (0)

Ireland
Paul Mariner
(?)
(?)
Celtic FC



Rohan Ricketts (44)

England
John Carver
($212,504)
Chris Cummins
($165,000)
Barnsley
Diósgyöri VTK


Laurent Robert (17)

France
John Carver
(?)
John Carver
(?)
Derby County
AEL 1964


Carl Robinson (84)

Wales
Mo Johnston
($330,000)
Preki
($315,000)
Norwich City
Red Bull NY


Nick Soolsma (46)

Netherlands
Aron Winter
($86,004)
Paul Mariner
($110,000)
VV Young Boys
Unattached


Alen Stevanovic (12)

Serbia
Aron Winter
($250,000)
Aron Winter
($250,000)
Torino FC
Torino FC


Maxim Usanov (21)

Russia
Preki
($102,250)
Nick Dasovic
($102,250)
FC Krasnodar
FC Petrotrest St. Petersburg


Eddy Viator (4)

France
Aron Winter
($101,875)
Aron Winter
($101,875)
SC Amiens
Felda United FC


Andy Welsh (20)

England
Mo Johnston
($204,750)
Mo Johnston
($204,750)
Sunderland
Blackpool


Mikael Yourassowsky (25)

Belgium
Aron Winter
($81,670.67)
Aron Winter
($81,670.67)
HNK Rijeka
Unattached




Canada and USA tables coming soon.

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

It's a very interesting list, but it can be slightly misrepresentative when considering the team scouting focuses. When have had a number of players from the Caribbean come through the team, but it would false to suggest that TFC has shown a lot of strength in scouting the region, as most the player weren't playing domestically before coming to TFC.

That said, big ups for preparing the list.

[BayernTFC]

TFC Players from Canada



Player (games played)

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Nana Attakora (68)

Canada
John Carver
($12,900)
Aron Winter
($45,000)
TFC Academy
San Jose Earthquakes


Adam Braz (13)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($74,950)
Mo Johnston
($74,950)
Montreal Impact
Montreal Impact


Jim Brennan (93)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($158,000)
Preki
($193,250 + ?)
Southampton
Retired


Miguel Canizalez (12)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($40,000)
Mo Johnston
($40,000)
FC Oberneuland
Bonner SC


Adrian Cann (57)

Canada
Preki
($65,342)
($134,750)
Esbjerg fB



Oscar Cordon (7)

Canada
Aron Winter
($32,604)
($44,000)
TFC Acadmey



Julian De Guzman (93)

Canada
Chris Cummins
($956,350)
Paul Mariner
($1,910,746)
Deportivo La Coruña
FC Dallas


Dwayne De Rosario (75)

Canada
John Carver
($425,750)
Aron Winter
($493,750)
Houston Dynamo
Red Bull NY


Srdjan Djekanovic (8)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($17,700)
Mo Johnston
($17,700)
Vancouver Whitecaps
Vancouver Whitecaps


Terry Dunfield (37)

Canada
Aron Winter
($65,000)
($86,000)
Vancouver Whitecaps FC



Gabe Gala (24)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($12,900)
Nick Dasovic
($40,000)

Mississauga Eagles FC


Derek Gaudet (1)

Canada
John Carver
($12,900)
John Carver
($12,900)
Halifax Dunbrack
Portland Timbers


Ali Gerba (13)

Canada
Chris Cummins
($177,433.50)
Preki
(?)
Milton Keynes Dons
Montreal Impact


Kevin Harmse (33)

Canada
John Carver
($72,000)
Chris Cummins
($79,200)
LA Galaxy
Chivas USA


Tyler Hemming (7)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($17,700)
John Carver
($17,700)
Hartwick College
Tampere United


Doneil Henry (40)

Canada
Preki
(?)
($45,100)
TFC Academy



Nicholas Lindsay (8)

Canada
Preki
(?)
($45,100)
TFC Academy



Andrea Lombardo (17)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($30,000)
John Carver
($30,000)
Atalanta
Whittlesea Zebras


Keith Makabuya (1)

Canada
Aron Winter
($32,604)
($44,000)
TFC Academy



Joey Melo (5)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($12,900)
John Carver
($12,900)

Mississauga Eagles FC


David Monsalve (1)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($30,000)
Mo Johnston
($30,000)

North York Astros


Ashtone Morgan (50)

Canada
Nick Dasovic
(?)
($56,000)
TFC Academy



Chris Pozniak (22)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($95,000)
Mo Johnston
($95,000)
FK Haugesund
Chivas USA


Marco Reda (8)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($105,000)
Mo Johnston
($105,000)
Sogndal Fotball
Charleston Battery


Quillan Roberts (0)

Canada
Aron Winter
($33,750)
($33,750)
TFC Academy



Tyler Rosenlund (8)

Canada
John Carver
($17,700)
John Carver
($17,700)
IFK Mariehamn
Surrey United FC


Adrian Serioux (30)

Canada
John Carver
($131,570)
Preki
($96,000)
FC Dallas
Houston Dynamo


Kenny Stamatopolous (12)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($37,500)
Mo Johnston
($37,500)
Tromsö IL
Tromsö IL


Matt Stinson (22)

Canada
Aron Winter
($32,604)
($44,000)
TFC Academy



Greg Sutton (39)

Canada
Mo Johnston
($132,562.50)
Chris Cummins
($165,062.50)
Montreal Impact
Red Bull NY


Gianluca Zavarise (15)

Canada
Aron Winter
($46,517.75)
Aron Winter
($46,517.75)
Iraklis Thessaloniki FC
Unattached

[BayernTFC]

TFC Players From the United States



Player

Country

Manager @ Arrival (Salary)

Manager @ Departure (Salary)

Previous Team

Next Team



Quincy Amarikwa
United States
Paul Mariner
($44,100)
($44,100)
Colorado Rapids



Eric Avila
United States
Aron Winter
($133,000)
($158,000)
FC Dallas



Chad Barret
United States
John Carver
($61,273.13)
Aron Winter
($225,333.33)
Chicago Fire
LA Galaxy


Edson Buddle
United States
Mo Johnston
($150,000)
Mo Johnston
($150,000)
Red Bull NY
LA Galaxy


Conor Casey
United States
Mo Johnston
($180,000)
Mo Johnston
($180,000)
Mainz 05
Colorado Rapids


Jon Conway
United States
Preki
($69,833.33)
Aron Winter
($69,833.33)
Chivas USA
Chicago Fire


Sam Cronin
United States
John Carver
($84,000)
Preki
($105,500)
Wake Forest University
San Jose Earthquakes


Jeff Cunningham
United States
Mo Johnston
($232,500)
John Carver
($257,500)
Real Salt Lake
FC Dallas


Kyle Davies
United States
Aron Winter
($52,566.50)
Aron Winter
($52,566.50)
LA Galaxy
Orlando City


Todd Dunivant
United States
Mo Johnston
($99,750)
John Carver
($104,737.50)
Red Bull NY
LA Galaxy


Maurice Edu
United States
Mo Johnston
($132,500)
John Carver
($157,500)
University of Maryland
Rangers FC


Brain Edwards
United States
Mo Johnston
($44,750)
Preki
($48,350)
Wake Forest University
Charlotte Eagles


Logan Emory
United States
Aron Winter
($44,000)
($44,000)
Puerto Rico Islanders



Alecko Eskandarian
United States
Mo Johnston
($175,500)
Mo Johnston
($175,500)
DC United
Real Salt Lake


Hunter Freeman
United States
John Carver
($71,160)
John Carver
($71,160)
Red Bull NY
IK Start


Nick Garcia
United States
Chris Cummins
($198,750)
Nick Dasovic
($198,750)
San Jose Earthquakes
Retired


Dan Gargan
United States
Preki
($40,000)
Aron Winter
($70,000)
Puerto Rico Islanders
Chicago Fire


Matt Gold
United States
Aron Winter
($42,000)
Aron Winter
($42,000)
Ohio State University
San Antonio Scorpions


Kevin Goldthwaite
United States
Mo Johnston
($30,870)
Mo Johnston
($30,870)
Houston Dynamo
Red Bull NY


Alan Gordon
United States
Aron Winter
($96,504)
Aron Winter
($96,504)
Chivas USA
San Jose Earthquakes


Jeremy Hall
United States
Aron Winter
($149,000)
($149,000)
FC Dallas



Ty Harden
United States
Preki
($40,000)
($98,666.67)
Colorado Rapids



Zachary Herold

United States

Preki
($109,166.67)

Preki
($109,166.67)

West Pines United FC

Retired



Fuad Ibrahim

United States
John Carver
($103,000)
Preki
($133,000)
FC Dallas
Minnesota Stars FC


Nick Labrocca
United States
Preki
($79,500)
Aron Winter
($87,200)
Colorado Rapids
Chivas USA


Peri Marosevic
United States
Aron Winter
($129,000)
Aron Winter
($129,000)
FC Dallas
Unattached


Aaron Maund
United States
Aron Winter
($59,000)
($59,000)
University of Notre Dame



Richard Mulrooney
United States
Mo Johnston
($233,200)
Mo Johnston
($233,200)
FC Dallas
Houston Dynamo


Demitrius Omphroy
United States
Aron Winter
($42,000)
Aron Winter
($42,000)
University of California, Berkeley
Unattached


Jacob Peterson
United States
Preki
($143,000)
Aron Winter
($150,775)
Colorado Rapids
Sporting KC


Dasan Robinson
United States
Aron Winter
($100,000)
Aron Winter
($100,000)
Chicago Fire
LA Galaxy


Luis Silva
United States
Aron Winter
($79,000)
($79,000)
University of California, Santa Barbara



Johann Smith
United States
John Carver
($47,666.67)
Chris Cummins
($56,666.67)
Bolton Wanderers
HNK Rijeka


Nathan Sturgis
United States
Nick Dasovic
($89,250)
Aron Winter
($89,250)
Seattle Sounders FC
Houston Dynamo


Andrew Wiedeman
United States
Paul Mariner
($123,000)
($123,000)
FC Dallas



Marvell Wynne
United States
Mo Johnston
($150,000)
Preki
($171,750)
Red Bull NY
Colorado Rapids

[BayernTFC]

The last two lists consisting of Canadian and American players tell an interesting story. US players don't come cheap, especially established ones, and TFC hasn't been doing a good job managing US talent. We've given up too quickly on the better assets and overpaid or held on too long to the marginal players. It was interesting to note 3 of the 4 contracts added while Chris Cummins was manager. Julian De Guzman ($956,350), Ali Gerba ($177,433.50) and Nick Garcia ($198,750). Would John Carver have allowed that to happen if he'd stayed? By the way, the 4th was Lesly Fellinga ($36,000).

Canadians have generally been much cheaper, with the aforementioned JDG and Ali Gerba, as well as Adam Braz and Marco Reda, being the exceptions.

[prizby]

Reggie Lambe, Tyler Hemming, Doneil Henry (misspelled)

Freddy Hall's salary has yet to been reported

Allando Matheson never signed a pro contract

Andy Welsh was $204,750

Kilian Elkinson is missing on the list

Alan Stevanovic was $250,000 year (I'll help you out on more of these after the Canada game)

www.mlsplayers.org/files/May 1, 2011 Salary Information - By Club.pdf

[BayernTFC]

^ Thanks prizby. Changes have been made. Although, according to the MLS website, Kilian Elkinson never played a minute for TFC:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/players/kilian-elkinson


Also, I did notice Greg Sutton is missing from the list. :redface:



EDIT: Added Efraín Burgos Jr too.

[prizby]

^ Thanks prizby. Changes have been made. Although, according to the MLS website, Kilian Elkinson never played a minute for TFC:

http://www.mlssoccer.com/players/kilian-elkinson


Also, I did notice Greg Sutton is missing from the list. :redface:



EDIT: Added Efraín Burgos Jr too.

yes but this is based on scouting, so I am assuming its based on players we have signed to a contract past and present; someone scouted and decided to sign Kilian...also should probably put a * beside any carver, cummins, preki signing because MO was making a lot of those moves (assumption, but gut feeling)

Marco Velez - ended at $63,500 (http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/3_15_09_salary_info_club.pdf)

Joao Plata - does transfer fee matter (especially if allocation was used)? I am sure some of the other players we have brought in cost us either allocation or there was a nominal transfer fee

omphroy/burgos Central American; I buy maybe Burgos (who grew up and has lived pretty much his whole live in usa), but other than representing Panama 3 times at the u21 level (which he was able to do through a parent), omphroy's football development is USA; he never lived or played football for a club in central america

Abbe Ibrahim $31,250 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/mls/longterm/2007/salaries_07.html)

Unfortunately Tibely was gone before the first release

Rohan Ricketts $165,000 (http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/3_15_09_salary_info_club.pdf)

Unfortunately Laurent Robert came after the 09 first release and had been waived before the 09 second release.

Brennan was what you got (last reported in 09)

Gerba was gone before the 2010 release

Missing Zach Herold ($109,166.67)...again, never played a game, but was drafted/signed (GA), scouted, so up to you if you count him.

Greg Sutton ($165,062.50) (http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/3_15_09_salary_info_club.pdf)

tough to say on the academy kids in 2010 (Morgan and Lindsay); seemed like there were no "developmental" contracts that year and would have been on $40,000, but nothing reported

Johann Smith ($56,666.67) (http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/3_15_09_salary_info_club.pdf)

Tim Regan never played for TFC during the Mo era; he was selected in the expansion draft then traded...he did come out of retirement in 2008 for that one game against chivas when tfc had many injured and at international duty (fucking Garber for not moving the game). (Rick Titus and Diaz Kambere would also fit in this.)

Sam Reynolds ($17,700) (http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/8_31_07_salary_info_club.pdf); should be noted that he was an MLS POOL goalie, and not an actual player signing by MO.

Maurice Edu ($157,500) (http://www.fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99678)

(just for the record, I don't believe the reported salaries are always correct; I think there are some players making more than what their wage is reported and others making less)

i think thats about all for now

[TFC Tifoso]

It was interesting to note 3 of the 4 contracts added while Chris Cummins was manager. Julian De Guzman ($956,350), Ali Gerba ($177,433.50) and Nick Garcia ($198,750). Would John Carver have allowed that to happen if he'd stayed? By the way, the 4th was Lesly Fellinga ($36,000).

Tough to say, since neither Carver nor Cummins were responsible for bringing them in......that was Mo, and Mo did pretty much whatever he liked.....people can say what they like about Cummins, but he brought us closest to the playoffs than any other coach.....

nice list man.....lots of good stuff (and not so good) in there......

[BayernTFC]

yes but this is based on scouting, so I am assuming its based on players we have signed to a contract past and present; someone scouted and decided to sign Kilian...also should probably put a * beside any carver, cummins, preki signing because MO was making a lot of those moves (assumption, but gut feeling)
I understand that there are some grey areas. I think some symbols and a legend to indicate which official was most responsible for the recruitment/signing of a particular player should be added at some point. In the event of uncertainty or lack of definitive information, then a question mark would be used. I addressed this very issue in the OP and any information that is provided will be welcomed. Your point on Kilian is noted. Elbekay Bouchiba falls into this category as well, so it's not an anomaly and they probably should be there for the reasons you mentioned.


Joao Plata - does transfer fee matter (especially if allocation was used)? I am sure some of the other players we have brought in cost us either allocation or there was a nominal transfer fee
I think it helps to highlight the difference in Plata's cost to TFC. He was a real bargain in year one. Also, someone made the decision to pay a transfer fee for him and that fee could have led to a change in the level of contributions Plata was expected to make. Allocation is an MLS quirk, and a bit murky, so I don't know if it belongs here. However, transfer fees are pretty concrete. If anyone has information on transfer fees, it certainly would be considered for addition.


omphroy/burgos Central American; I buy maybe Burgos (who grew up and has lived pretty much his whole live in usa), but other than representing Panama 3 times at the u21 level (which he was able to do through a parent), omphroy's football development is USA; he never lived or played football for a club in central america
I understand the argument about where players have developed. I think supplying the columns "Previous Team" and "Next Team" offer a good idea of where the players have been scouted from. I think it's safe to question the level of scouting that TFC management has conducted in regards to players from all regions. It's important to recognize where a player is born and which national team he plays for too. You've done this with Burgos. I agree with you that Omphroy was miscategorized. He's born in the US (So were his parents), and his time with Panama is at the U21 level. If his status changes later, we could revisit the issue. He's been moved to the US table.



Missing Zach Herold ($109,166.67)...again, never played a game, but was drafted/signed (GA), scouted, so up to you if you count him.


Tim Regan never played for TFC during the Mo era; he was selected in the expansion draft then traded...he did come out of retirement in 2008 for that one game against chivas when tfc had many injured and at international duty (fucking Garber for not moving the game). (Rick Titus and Diaz Kambere would also fit in this.)
I think Zach Herold belongs to the same category as Elkinson and Bouchiba. I removed Regan from this list. He was a draft and trade from the expansion year which, imho, doesn't bring lasting value to this exercise. As you said, he didn't play for TFC in the Mo era. A similar situation with Nate Jaqua. That one day loan thing was hopefully a one off that never happens again.



Sam Reynolds ($17,700) (http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/8_31_07_salary_info_club.pdf); should be noted that he was an MLS POOL goalie, and not an actual player signing by MO.
He's been removed


(just for the record, I don't believe the reported salaries are always correct; I think there are some players making more than what their wage is reported and others making less)

i think thats about all for now
The reported salaries are the best information available at the moment. Changes can be made if more reliable information is provided. Thanks for all your help prizby. It's appreciated. :thumbsup:






Tough to say, since neither Carver nor Cummins were responsible for bringing them in......that was Mo, and Mo did pretty much whatever he liked.....people can say what they like about Cummins, but he brought us closest to the playoffs than any other coach.....
My comments were made to highlight what can happen during transition periods. If I recall correctly, there were some accusations that Mo used Cummins' inexperience to gain access to the locker room and interfere with the squad:


Some of the highlights:
- Cummins claims that Mo didn't provide enough support to him
- Mo apparently would interfere with team selection, stepping into the dressing room (Carver had kept him out - Cummins regrets not being strong enough to do so) to talk to players at the half, making "I can't believe you aren't playing" comments to players not scheduled to start during the warm-ups of games
http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?39636-Former-TFC-coach-Chris-Cummins-spills-the-beans



Some things aren't always black and white. Just because Mo was GM, doesn't mean all decisions were entirely made by him:


Carver did take issue with one of the things Cummins said in the interview, specifically his claim that Carver had banned Johnston from the locker room during his tenure as head coach.

"I never banned or stopped Mo from coming into the locker room," Carver said. "He didn't come into the locker room because he didn't need to come in. I had a strong locker room. He didn' interfere one little bit.

"We had our discussions and disagreements on certain issues, but I tell you what, he never interfered with team affairs. He never asked me what the team was. He never told me what team to pick. I took full responsibility for doing that.

"When I was the head coach I made all the football decisions, I made all the decisions on players coming in and out of the football club," Carver said. "What Mo would do is he would recommend players to me. We would never sign anybody without me saying yes, I definitely wanted him."


http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/04/john-carver-interview.html

[TFC Tifoso]

ah I see.....good to know.....

[jloome]

Robert was on $300,000. It was definitely released at one point, although it may not be easily found online still.

[prizby]

Robert was on $300,000. It was definitely released at one point, although it may not be easily found online still.

Robert was signed after March 31st (first release) and released before October .

This is the closest thing I found:

http://www.thebesteleven.com/2008/04/2008-mls-mini-designated-players.html

but no source of where the salary info was found