TFC vs MTL VC, Dr. Jekyll & TFC post-game thread

[Oldtimer]

So who is the real TFC? The 0-8 team? The team that played tonight?

[OgtheDim]

Oh my gosh did those guys play for each other.:drum:

[Richard]

SUCK A DICK MONTREAL

Lol a BDK at the end raging.

[TFCwestcan]

What is that strange feeling, oh yeah, excitement over a victory... Great game. finally some team defense.

[Initial B]

If they can play like that every game, they wouldn't be 0-8. Maybe they finally got their act together? Now we have to wait a week to see if they can do it against Vancouver. If they beat the Whitecaps, I think I might start to believe again...

[AlanO]

That was awesome!

[Lumpy]

The players wanted to win. Same guys as always but they had the fire. Frings led them. Everyone played well. These guys are good when they come to play.

[Island Man]

Bob de Klerk is awesome. What a performance. Feels great. I love TFC.

[Suds]

Some very good performances put in all over the pitch. So much more or a team effort tonight and it showed in the result.

[Relja]

Oh when the reds oh when the reds oh when the reds go marching in oh how i want to be in that number oh when the reds go marching in :d :d :d

[loconet]

For me, tonight reinforced what DeRo said - this isn't a 0-8 bunch of players, there is something else wrong.

[Jack]

Amazing. I hope we have finally broken the dam.

[DichioTFC]

I would keep Winter just for De Klerk.

Also, I would just like to point out that TFC are 1-0 this season when I come to the RPB in-game chat. Just sayin ;)

Feel free to thank me

[TFC USA]

Give it 10 days and this forum will put the pitchforks out again.

[Oldtimer]

For me, tonight reinforced what DeRo said - this isn't a 0-8 bunch of players, there is something else wrong.

Well they won, so maybe there is something right, at least for this game?

Also, if I've been giving Winter a hard time because of losing, it would be unfair for me to not give him some credit when the team wins. I liked the offensive formation for most of the game, and I think the subs were for the most part the right choices.

[ag futbol]

That goes down as an all-time TFC performance. Attacking players took onus to bring the game to montreal. Still hate RJ in the middle as a target (think it's a waste) but we have nobody else who can play the spot so oh well.. Henry looked solid as well.

That being said, it is one game of many this team will need to win in order to redeem itself. Don't think it's appropriate to speculate on how good we are at this point. Management team is still hanging on by a thread.

[Lumpy]

Enjoy the moment. Tomorrow is another day.

[Oldtimer]

tweet:

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Great team performance! Well done Reds!!!

[Gazza]

How in the hell do you explain this? Toasty Frings was an animal, so was Ryan Johnson.

[Pookie]

Got to love it. At least for a day anyways.

Twitter world lighting up at stories of Impact fans fighting with cops outside of BMO.

[Gazza]

De Klerk is entertainment

[Azerban]

fantastic game

do that till the all star game and we'll be a .500 team yet

[Chevy]

Well done boys.

[AlanO]

Frings has had an amazing career playing at the very highest levels in the sport, and yet here he is in some tiny Canadian four-team tournament, absolutely busting his ass.

A true professional in every way. What a player.

[Beach_Red]

How in the hell do you explain this? Toasty Frings was an animal, so was Ryan Johnson.

Guess that team meeting was a good idea...

[Couchy81]

Two thoughts:

1. Praise Jah - don't think that bob marley playing during warmup right before the starting whistle had no effect on this game
2. That referee crew was amateur as shit and shouldn't be involved in professional competition.

[ManUtd4ever]

The boys played hard for each other tonight and fully deserved this one.

[Pookie]

From Arash Madini Twitter

Ryan Johnson on Aron Winter: "He wants to win really bad... We were unlucky on a lot of them. He has our backs and we have his." #TFC (https://mobile.twitter.com/search/#TFC)

[Chevy]

Hey, who's missing from the postgame thread?

[Gazza]

Guess that team meeting was a good idea...

They've had many team meetings this year. But i do believe that putting Frings in his rightful position helps a lot.

[Pookie]

Johnson said the team meeting "got a lot off our chests & the coaches got a lot off their chests." Said "open dialogue" helped a ton. #TFC (https://mobile.twitter.com/search/#TFC)

[boozilla]

I thought I saw Johnson throw a punch at half time. He was pretty fired up tonight.

[Dv23]

What kind of bogus refereeing was that?! I agree 100%

Nevertheless, the boys played a great game for the full 90. So proud. This is the team that I think everyone was expecting at the beginning of the year.
I told Johnson in the 8th minute that he was going to score two tonight. He nodded, and scored like three minutes later. When I saw him get that pass in the 90th, I thought for sure it was going down. Alas, Ricketts with a good save. At least the 2-0 prediction that I posted on the "Gut-Check Time" thread was met.

[Gazza]

I hope johnson doesn't get fined for his half time rant. I loved the honesty.

[Rene Kingsriver]

Not one of those players deserves anything but absolute praise (Ecks excepted I suppose)

TIC TAC TABERNAC :scarf:

[Dkolish3]

I didn't see the game guys is there anywhere I could find a full replay of the match it would be much appreciated.

[Gazza]

Was the red card warranted? I was late to the party. Ecks has had a rough time of it this year.

[Azerban]

are you going to call someone out or shit and run

e: to chevy, fuckin phone posting

[Couchy81]

Was the red card warranted? I was late to the party. Ecks has had a rough time of it this year.

No it wasn't a red card.

[Azerban]

Was the red card warranted? I was late to the party. Ecks has had a rough time of it this year.

not at all

[Rene Kingsriver]

Was the red card warranted? I was late to the party. Ecks has had a rough time of it this year.

Might've been a bit harsh but if you're going to charge around like a bull in a china shop don't be surprised if people accuse you of breaking plates

[Oblio2]

It was a possible yellow but he wasnt looking and trod on the guys ankle.....fuck, never a red....Ever

[TOBOR !]

Montreal's lucky we didn't have another man sent off.

[NBS]

I think it's as simple as this: These players care about the Champions League more than MLS.

I don't think it's an intentional or conscious decision but the fire they display in CCL/V-Cup games is clearly at another level, there is no denying this. We'll see against Vancouver, which I think will be a significant test, but they have passion and confidence playing these games that is otherwise lacking in MLS play.

[tfcleeds]

No complaints about the performance tonight - lads came out on fire, and despite most of the match being a man down, were by far the dominant side. Now hopefully they can carry this over to MLS matches.

[King Jeff]

Fantastic performance on the field, but the south end deserves massive props for their job tonight. I was in 127 and it was the loudest I can remember the south end being in ages.

[maxpower]

a few pointers and a question.

First, did anyone see what Eckersley did too get the red? my assumption is that he lashed out at the MTL player who fouled him but i could be wrong.

second, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Impact were absolutely horrible. So while we played very well, we should not get too excited.

Lastly, There can be absolutely no question of who our No.1 center back is. Doneil Henry put in one of the best defensive performances I have seen in our clubs history.

P.S. honorable mentions go out to JDG, Ryan Johnson, Reggie Lambe and, while he only played a few minutes, i was very impressed with Jeremy Hall's performance.

P.S.S. South end was FANTASTIC tonight, huge props...can YOU hear the impact sing?

[denime]

"We are shit and we are beating you ala ale aleee"

Best chant of the night

[Sweeper]

Fantastic to finally watch them dominate a game and play with true passion. For the first time in as long as I can remember I wasn't worried after they scored the 2nd goal, even with a man down.

[Cobblers]

just back...some thoughts on a decent performance:- lots of hussle and heart shown out there tonight- refereeing was atrocious...I've seen bad in many games but this crew were awful- overall the team defended well, but I thought Henry was excellent at the back- Frings came to play and lead tonight- Lambe show his versatility (ended up playing RB for most of the first half)- i love the attacking play of avila - he forces the play so often and can change a game with a single possession (it's a shame we don't have enough players who can read where they should be off of him...)- RJ is full of heart and is very good at keeping position up top (just needs a bit more patience to find the right ball from that point)- RJ and Henry never lose a header offensively - we need to exploit that moreOverall a good performance by the lads tonight (although it must be said that Montreal were absolutely terrible tonight).

[denime]

Was the red card warranted? I was late to the party. Ecks has had a rough time of it this year.

What i saw was two different calls,linesman signaled foul for Impact,and ref on the pitch called foul for TFC.After chit chat on the sideline ref came back and showed red to Ecks.

So Ecks got red and we got the ball,go figure.

[Cobblers]

What i saw was two different calls,linesman signaled foul for Impact,and ref on the pitch called foul for TFC.After chit chat on the sideline ref came back and showed red to Ecks.

So Ecks got red and we got the ball,go figure.

Yeah, that was a weird one. i didn't understand what the hell he was calling. As I posted before, I haven't seen a referee that poor in a while...

[Huyton]

Kudos to the Montreal fans...they were singing the entire game.

However, from my vantage point in 127, the South Stand was awesome tonight...a seething mass of raw passion.

Take a bow.

The back of 127 was actually OK tonight, but the front was very quiet.

[denime]

Funny how (according to some posters on this board) Montreal was so fucking good few days back when they won vs KC,but tonight they were terrible.

Makes me wonder why the fuck is it so difficult to give a credit to your OWN TEAM when they win with 10 players?

[backbeat]

Funny how (according to some posters on this board) Montreal was so fucking good few days back when they won vs KC,but tonight they were terrible.

Makes me wonder why the fuck is it so difficult to give a credit to your OWN TEAM when they win with 10 players?

^ this, big time!!

they were shit, or appeared to be shite, because we were so strong on the ball - it was, simply put, a brilliant performance...Go Reds!!!

[maxpower]

Funny how (according to some posters on this board) Montreal was so fucking good few days back when they won vs KC,but tonight they were terrible.

Makes me wonder why the fuck is it so difficult to give a credit to your OWN TEAM when they win with 10 players?

I didn't watch the KC game so I can't comment on that performance, But while we played very well, MTL were fucking horrible. What we don't need is too run away with expectations now. We are still in for a VERY long season.

[Cobblers]

Funny how (according to some posters on this board) Montreal was so fucking good few days back when they won vs KC,but tonight they were terrible.

Makes me wonder why the fuck is it so difficult to give a credit to your OWN TEAM when they win with 10 players?

Credit has been given. It's a fact as far as I'm concerned - TFC played well and Montreal were poor. Hence the result.

[Whoop]

Kudos.

I was just happy to see the team press even though they went down a man.

As happy as I am with the victory, it just leaves me more frustrated as to why... LOL

[Whoop]

I see Jennifer Benson is at it again on twitter. LOL

[Initial B]

Funny how (according to some posters on this board) Montreal was so fucking good few days back when they won vs KC,but tonight they were terrible.

Makes me wonder why the fuck is it so difficult to give a credit to your OWN TEAM when they win with 10 players?

Because we've been burned too many times to hope that this is more than a fluke result. If they can put together a sting of good results, I think the mood will shipft for the better.

[Section 117]

Brilliant performance from lads tonight. They left it all on th pitch tonight, happy for the win hopefully this will be the turning point of the season.

Side note as I was leaving I saw a flare and a couple of seats fly down from the L'Impact fans, I hope the cops beat the shit out of them. No class what so ever ... Tic Tac Tabernac Who The Fuck The Impact

[denime]

kudos.

I was just happy to see the team press even though they went down a man.

As happy as i am with the victory, it just leaves me more frustrated as to why... Lol

qft 100%

[nlsanand]

However, from my vantage point in 127, the South Stand was awesome tonight...a seething mass of raw passion.

Take a bow.

The back of 127 was actually OK tonight, but the front was very quiet.

I was in row 16 in 127, where were you? Gotta agree with these comments. But my friends was telling me before the game that the North End Elite is not really functioning as a supporters group anymore. What's the story with them?

[Red CB Toronto]

De Klerk is entertainment

You can say that for sure, he was letting the officials hear it all night, at one point the fourth official told him to sit down. It hit a boiling point when the final whistle blew and a cop and security took BDK by the arms and escorted him off the pitch.

[nlsanand]

Will highlights be posted of the match? I was at the game and noone has any idea why Eckersley got sent off. Neither did anyone on 590 when they were discussing the game. I actually checked back in the thread and someone said it was a stomp. Was it after the play? I know the foul got called against Montreal. Would love to hear anyone's thoughts who was watching it on TV.

BTW, I'm still standing by my "Fire Winter" beliefs.

[KGH]

Game in 6 is up now. Looks like a piss poor call

[Alonso]

I didn't watch the KC game so I can't comment on that performance, But while we played very well, MTL were fucking horrible. What we don't need is too run away with expectations now. We are still in for a VERY long season.


This is obvious to everyone I think.


Let's enjoy the win anyway though... no?!?

[glaze]

spent the first half in 104. Montreal supporters were great, they stood and sang the entire half.
that said, while I couldn't hear 112/113 from the north end, you could tell they were into it as well. that's the problem with BMO the sound doesn't carry from 113 to 110, let alone the north end.
What a difference Frings makes when he is offensive. that second goal was all him. Not sure if you could tell from the south end, but after the corner, he kept it in play along the line, leading to the goal.
Winning feels great. Nice to see that energy again. And the tick tack cheer was great.
A group in 110 had a cheer that involved celine dion and c--t, but due to the wind I couldnt make out many other words.
Great times indeed.

[OgtheDim]

I think the biggest thing that bugged most of us watching that call, including Forrest on SN, was the only reason a card was given was the Impact player showed off his injury. That is not professional refereeing.

[T-boy]

For me, tonight reinforced what DeRo said - this isn't a 0-8 bunch of players, there is something else wrong.

Totally agreed! I've been saying that I like the players, and the team should be playing a lot better. so what gives? Why can this team play SO well in cup matched, and look awful in league games? I just don't get it?! Tonight they attacked straight from the kick off, And even when Eckersley was (very harshly IMO) sent off, they kept attacking.

Why haven't they been doing this the last few league games? TFC need to go out and attack at home, they need to own BMO!

I just worry that DC will beat us next game, and they will back to square one again! I don't want this team to be a one trick pony playing well ONLY in league games. We HAVE to play like that in league games.

[Yohan]

It'd be so easy to write off this team if they didn't have performances like this.

I think Montreal played very tired after game at KC on Sat, but no excuse for them. They shit the bed big time, not being able to score with a man up. They gassed out around 75min mark and it would have been embarassing score if it wasn't for Ricketts saving their asses.

Very proud of the lads. They all played with their hearts and fought for the crest.

[T-boy]

And also, next time anybody compains about one of our players being bad....I'll just remind you of that performance by Ubiparipovic - he was AWFUL! What a useless lump of lard he was!

[Abou Sky]

Got to love it. At least for a day anyways.

Twitter world lighting up at stories of Impact fans fighting with cops outside of BMO.

Ya, me and my boy were taunting them so I would like to take some credit for that rage :)

What a fucking high, I am going to ride that for a bit. Brought some friends for their first game and they LOVED it, totally sold!

What a game, I was pissed when they dropped back and played defensively as I think you should play like it is nil-nil until the end of the game, we could have had 3-0 easy.

2 rules:

Dont play a defensive soccer game

Never attack Russia during the winter.

[MG42]

fc edmonton up 1-0 in van 57 min

[Abou Sky]

Totally agreed! I've been saying that I like the players, and the team should be playing a lot better. so what gives? Why can this team play SO well in cup matched, and look awful in league games? I just don't get it?! Tonight they attacked straight from the kick off, And even when Eckersley was (very harshly IMO) sent off, they kept attacking.

Why haven't they been doing this the last few league games? TFC need to go out and attack at home, they need to own BMO!

I just worry that DC will beat us next game, and they will back to square one again! I don't want this team to be a one trick pony playing well ONLY in league games. We HAVE to play like that in league games.

RSL they played well, Chicago too.

We can do it, maybe, just maybe Winter was right and 4-3-3 is the way to go as long as you are flexible in its application.

[Jeffro]

Great result, great night in the stands. Now lets build on it.

[A.J]

Dont play a defensive soccer game



Even when you're up 2 - 0 with 10 men?

[Auzzy]

I just checked the replay. What a brutal red card. Ecks had possession of the ball, Montreal player came from behind, got his foot between Ecks and the ball, Ecks could barely see him since the guy came from behind and Ecks was looking forward in the direction he was running, Ecks' foot hits the guy's leg as a result, Gantar gives a free kick to Toronto (presumably for the tackle from behind) AND a red card to Ecks.

Ecks did nothing after the play -- I thought there might have been a stomp or something -- but no. So essentially the ref called a foul in favour of Ecks, and a red card against Ecks, for the exact same play.

BTW this is the same David Gantar who today had a red card rescinded by the league, first time ever, from the RSL - NE game.

[Yagbod]

Sorry to bring the mood down, but a lot of shit went down after the game. I don't know all the details yet but:

- my wife was spat upon twice as we walked by the IMFC section after the game

- I saw the IMFC fans throw a lit flare at others walking by.

- someone on twitter is reporting that 30 IMFC fans assaulted a group of RPB's leaving four of them injured. <--- (EDIT) heard nothing more on this, likely not true

- I saw security and possibly police fighting with IMFC fans after the match. A number of them have been arrested, by some accounts.

I am sure more of this will come to light, but plainly IMFC fans need to be banned from further travel to BMO field or this violence will escalate. And I mean it 'will escalate'.

Again, sorry to be a downer but I am really pissed off right now. I hope our members are ok and not badly hurt.

[Furtado91]

Sorry to bring the mood down, but a lot of shit went down after the game. I don't know all the details yet but:

- my wife was spat upon twice as we walked by the IMFC section after the game

- I saw the IMFC fans throw a lit flare at others walking by.

- someone on twitter is reporting that 30 IMFC fans assaulted a group of RPB's leaving four of them injured.

- I saw security and possibly police fighting with IMFC fans after the match. A number of them have been arrested, by some accounts.

I am sure more of this will come to light, but plainly IMFC fans need to be banned from further travel to BMO field or this violence will escalate. And I mean it 'will escalate'.

Again, sorry to be a downer but I am really pissed off right now. I hope our members are ok and not badly hurt.


Hey Yagbod, I saw that Impact fan fighting a tfc fan and Luke and I ran to try and help him but then they ripped out 2 or 3 chairs and threw them from the top of their section. along with lit cigarettes and the flair. Im sorry to hear about your wife man.

I just have to say FUCK THE IMPACT.

[Yagbod]

Hey Yagbod, I saw that Impact fan fighting a tfc fan and Luke and I ran to try and help him but then they ripped out 2 or 3 chairs and threw them from the top of their section. along with lit cigarettes and the flair. Im sorry to hear about your wife man.

I just have to say FUCK THE IMPACT.

We were wondering where you were. Glad to hear (hopefully) that you guys are ok. Good on ya for going to help. I didn't see the fighting, just heard about it later.

[the-lower-eastsider]

so its all cupcakes and sprinkles tonite in TFC land isnt it? we beat an expansion side. at home. whoopee. newsflash: WERE EFFING SUPPOSED TO BEAT EXPANSION SIDES AT HOME. and the official website says "heroic effort". look they can spin it any way they want, were the laughing stock of the league. we still havent won a league match in 8 EFFING TRIES. and even worse, WE DONT EVEN HAVE ONE SINGLE EFFING DRAW IN THOSE EIGHT GAMES EITHER. FUCKING BLACKBURN WON OR DREW 15 FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR AND THE SUPPORTERS PROTESTED MANAGMENT AND STEVE KEAN ALL FUCKING YEAR. EVERY FUCKING WEEK. AND THEY ONLY WENT DOWN ON THE SECOND LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DO WE DO??? NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. WE SHOULD BE THROWING CHICKENS ON THE PITCH.

AND BY THE WAY, IF WE LOSE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST DC UNITED ON THE ROAD (WHICH THERES A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE WILL), THEN WE HAVE TO WIN AT HOME ON THE 26TH AGAINST PHILLY TO AVOID TYING THE ALL-TIME MLS RECORD FOR FUTILITY (MOST LOSSES IN A ROW) -10. LOSE THAT AND THEN ITS OFF TO KANSAS CITY FOR PROLLY ANOTHER LOSS. WHICH WOULD BRING US TO 12. AND COUNTING.
I'M GOIN TO BED.

[Furtado91]

We were wondering where you were. Glad to hear (hopefully) that you guys are ok. Good on ya for going to help. I didn't see the fighting, just heard about it later.

yeah we are fine, are you okay?. though they thought luke was gonna attack the impact fan with the flags luke had. becasue as soon as we saw the flare me and him ran to ee what was going on. Luke kicked the flare out onto the streets, and a bunch fo tfc fans almost circled the impact fan, until the policeman totally decked the impact fan and took him down.

sorry to hear about your wife hope she is ok. they threw a chair that almost hit a woman. they also had a smokebomb I believe that went off during the game. hwo the hell can they allow that shit. I hope Montreal gets fined for that shit. security was very slow and ignorant. Only after the 2nd or 3rd chair got ripped off did security block the railing.

[MG42]

Even when you're up 2 - 0 with 10 men?

http://static.thecia.com.au/reviews/j/joe-dirt-4.jpg

[Auzzy]

^^^ I think the-lower-eastsider might need to get his keyboard fixed.

Other than that, I agree we shouldn't get too high about the game tonight, reality will hit us again soon & let's see how well that turns out.

Just to note: that "expansion team" hadn't conceded a goal in 290 minutes before this game, and they beat the best team in the league this past weekend. Just sayin'...

[Abou Sky]

Even when you're up 2 - 0 with 10 men?

Play nil-nil to the end.

Good friend played for CWNT and came with me and she almost exploded, you play defensively and you get eaten.

They went back to offense for the last 10 and it was awesome again.

If you play decensively you are going to to give up chances, if you play offensively they can score on counter if you don't support the back properly but we did all night so far so no, not even being up 2-0 with 10 men, maybe 12-15-0 you can start to play defensive but not until then.

[backbeat]

so its all cupcakes and sprinkles tonite in TFC land isnt it? we beat an expansion side. at home. whoopee. newsflash: WERE EFFING SUPPOSED TO BEAT EXPANSION SIDES AT HOME. and the official website says "heroic effort". look they can spin it any way they want, were the laughing stock of the league. we still havent won a league match in 8 EFFING TRIES. and even worse, WE DONT EVEN HAVE ONE SINGLE EFFING DRAW IN THOSE EIGHT GAMES EITHER. FUCKING BLACKBURN WON OR DREW 15 FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR AND THE SUPPORTERS PROTESTED MANAGMENT AND STEVE KEAN ALL FUCKING YEAR. EVERY FUCKING WEEK. AND THEY ONLY WENT DOWN ON THE SECOND LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DO WE DO??? NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. WE SHOULD BE THROWING CHICKENS ON THE PITCH.

AND BY THE WAY, IF WE LOSE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST DC UNITED ON THE ROAD (WHICH THERES A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE WILL), THEN WE HAVE TO WIN AT HOME ON THE 26TH AGAINST PHILLY TO AVOID TYING THE ALL-TIME MLS RECORD FOR FUTILITY (MOST LOSSES IN A ROW) -10. LOSE THAT AND THEN ITS OFF TO KANSAS CITY FOR PROLLY ANOTHER LOSS. WHICH WOULD BRING US TO 12. AND COUNTING.
I'M GOIN TO BED.

save it for another day buddy...

can't imagine that you were either at the game tonight or watched it to have that reaction

i can relate to not going over the top...but not until tomorrow, that is if you're a TFC fan....

[Abou Sky]

so its all cupcakes and sprinkles tonite in TFC land isnt it? we beat an expansion side. at home. whoopee. newsflash: WERE EFFING SUPPOSED TO BEAT EXPANSION SIDES AT HOME. and the official website says "heroic effort". look they can spin it any way they want, were the laughing stock of the league. we still havent won a league match in 8 EFFING TRIES. and even worse, WE DONT EVEN HAVE ONE SINGLE EFFING DRAW IN THOSE EIGHT GAMES EITHER. FUCKING BLACKBURN WON OR DREW 15 FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR AND THE SUPPORTERS PROTESTED MANAGMENT AND STEVE KEAN ALL FUCKING YEAR. EVERY FUCKING WEEK. AND THEY ONLY WENT DOWN ON THE SECOND LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DO WE DO??? NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. WE SHOULD BE THROWING CHICKENS ON THE PITCH.

AND BY THE WAY, IF WE LOSE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST DC UNITED ON THE ROAD (WHICH THERES A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE WILL), THEN WE HAVE TO WIN AT HOME ON THE 26TH AGAINST PHILLY TO AVOID TYING THE ALL-TIME MLS RECORD FOR FUTILITY (MOST LOSSES IN A ROW) -10. LOSE THAT AND THEN ITS OFF TO KANSAS CITY FOR PROLLY ANOTHER LOSS. WHICH WOULD BRING US TO 12. AND COUNTING.
I'M GOIN TO BED.

I try to be civil, but just shut up and enjoy the win man.

[Sally Mack]

- someone on twitter is reporting that 30 IMFC fans assaulted a group of RPB's leaving four of them injured.


I'm pretty sure that part is pure fiction (I hope it is!). It was reported by the same fake account who is claiming RPB accepts bribes from MLSE.

[Jeffro]

Play nil-nil to the end.

Good friend played for CWNT and came with me and she almost exploded, you play defensively and you get eaten.

They went back to offense for the last 10 and it was awesome again.

If you play decensively you are going to to give up chances, if you play offensively they can score on counter if you don't support the back properly but we did all night so far so no, not even being up 2-0 with 10 men, maybe 12-15-0 you can start to play defensive but not until then.

I fully agree with you in most circumstances, if you're having success taking the game to them, why start to defend at 2-0 and let them have the ball and create chances? By 80 minutes tonight though, we had some seriously gassed players, it's easier on tired legs to hold formation and defend than continue moving back up and down the pitch as a unit trying to attack as well. Letting them push further forward allowed us some great chances on the counter to kill it off with fresh legs off the bench. Good use of the subs tonight IMO.

[rocker]

I didn't watch the KC game so I can't comment on that performance, But while we played very well, MTL were fucking horrible. What we don't need is too run away with expectations now. We are still in for a VERY long season.

So the way we played had nothing to do with making them look horrible??

Nobody is running away with expectations. People are just enjoying a win against our enemies in the Canadian championship. Enjoy it.

[WestStandGeoff]

I don't want this team to be a one trick pony playing well ONLY in league games. We HAVE to play like that in league games.

Reminds me of one of my favourite Homer quotes - "Well, I'm tired of being a wannabe league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!"

[Yagbod]

I'm pretty sure that part is pure fiction (I hope it is!). It was reported by the same fake account who is claiming RPB accepts bribes from MLSE.

The person that I read it from was not that same person, but I hope you are right.

[rocker]

^^^ I think the-lower-eastsider might need to get his keyboard fixed.

Other than that, I agree we shouldn't get too high about the game tonight, reality will hit us again soon & let's see how well that turns out.

Just to note: that "expansion team" hadn't conceded a goal in 290 minutes before this game, and they beat the best team in the league this past weekend. Just sayin'...

yeah... funny how one day certain people say "wow, Montreal is so great.. wish we were them! they are awesome! I wanna suck off Joey Saputo! They beat KC, one of the best teams in the east! they aren't the usual expansion team!"

and then when we beat them it's "Montreal is an expansion team, we should beat them. Don't get so excited. They were horrible. We were lucky."

Can't have it both ways people. This is the same stuff people said when Montreal and Vancouver were in the NASL. Always having to qualify everything... geezus.

[los sonadores]

Working weird hours and out of the country mean I've missed the last 3 games but I'm still reading the boards when possible. Great to hear about a good performance and a win (the two don't always come together). Very interesting to not see the games and instead read the comments here. Many thoughtful comments in fact... plus a couple of fatiguing posters who seem to be using the boards to lobby for a coaching change more than there are discussing the games. I hear they are they on Steve Nicol's payroll - Jennifer Benson told me... kidding.. kidding....

[Jeffro]

Sorry to bring the mood down, but a lot of shit went down after the game. I don't know all the details yet but:

- my wife was spat upon twice as we walked by the IMFC section after the game

- I saw the IMFC fans throw a lit flare at others walking by.

- someone on twitter is reporting that 30 IMFC fans assaulted a group of RPB's leaving four of them injured.

- I saw security and possibly police fighting with IMFC fans after the match. A number of them have been arrested, by some accounts.

I am sure more of this will come to light, but plainly IMFC fans need to be banned from further travel to BMO field or this violence will escalate. And I mean it 'will escalate'.

Again, sorry to be a downer but I am really pissed off right now. I hope our members are ok and not badly hurt.

Saw some of this go down. The flare drew our attention from the mashup at gate 3, everybody went over there, looked like some pretty serious scuffles going on between Impact fans and security up in the stands. Fucking clowns throwing a flare into a crowd of people. Unbelievable. Hope they saw who did it, they were surrounded by security when it happened. Not sure about the RPB getting attacked story, but it seemed there were some TFC fans there who were geared towards waiting for the Impact supporters to get let out to start some shit, or 'get revenge'. Fairly certain none of them were RPB though.

[maxpower]

So the way we played had nothing to do with making them look horrible??

Nobody is running away with expectations. People are just enjoying a win against our enemies in the Canadian championship. Enjoy it.

possibly, however the impact did have many chances to score, including a few open nets. We played better but we have played better than half the teams we have played against this season and still lost. on another day ( a league day) this could quite possibly have been another game to add to the loss column.

Still a fantastic win though. all credit too the boys for playing hard.

[Macksam]

Henry and Morgan were both great tonight. Dunfield also did his job when he came on. Eat it Pookie! ;)

[Jeffro]

The thing that impressed me tonight was the way the team responded to the red card. We dominated the next 10 or 15 minutes, pushing Montreal back deep in their own half and getting that second goal.

[Shakes McQueen]

Kudos.

I was just happy to see the team press even though they went down a man.

As happy as I am with the victory, it just leaves me more frustrated as to why... LOL

Same boat, Vic. Great performance tonight. Hopefully they prove it wasn't an aberration going forward.

- Scott

[Shakes McQueen]

so its all cupcakes and sprinkles tonite in TFC land isnt it? we beat an expansion side. at home. whoopee. newsflash: WERE EFFING SUPPOSED TO BEAT EXPANSION SIDES AT HOME. and the official website says "heroic effort". look they can spin it any way they want, were the laughing stock of the league. we still havent won a league match in 8 EFFING TRIES. and even worse, WE DONT EVEN HAVE ONE SINGLE EFFING DRAW IN THOSE EIGHT GAMES EITHER. FUCKING BLACKBURN WON OR DREW 15 FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR AND THE SUPPORTERS PROTESTED MANAGMENT AND STEVE KEAN ALL FUCKING YEAR. EVERY FUCKING WEEK. AND THEY ONLY WENT DOWN ON THE SECOND LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DO WE DO??? NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. WE SHOULD BE THROWING CHICKENS ON THE PITCH.

AND BY THE WAY, IF WE LOSE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST DC UNITED ON THE ROAD (WHICH THERES A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE WILL), THEN WE HAVE TO WIN AT HOME ON THE 26TH AGAINST PHILLY TO AVOID TYING THE ALL-TIME MLS RECORD FOR FUTILITY (MOST LOSSES IN A ROW) -10. LOSE THAT AND THEN ITS OFF TO KANSAS CITY FOR PROLLY ANOTHER LOSS. WHICH WOULD BRING US TO 12. AND COUNTING.
I'M GOIN TO BED.

1) The win wasn't "meaningless" - it moves us forward to the final of the NCC
2) Yeah, we should beat expansion teams, but if you haven't noticed, that hasn't exactly been a given to this point. A win is a win, and feels good after losing eight games in a row. Don't be an idiot.
3) The rest of your post has sweet fuck all to do with the game tonight, so I will ask you to turn your caps lock off, and take that shit to the existing threads already discussing (at length) our league losing skid.

And while we are on the topic of you berating other people for doing "NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING" - what exactly have you done? Do you get action points for giving frowny-faced opinions on the internet?

- Scott

[jloome]

Interesting post-game interviews with the players, who said the meeting resulted in a tactical decision to press higher up the field from now on (which is how most of the league plays). Certainly showed tonight. Montreal wasn't used to having to move the ball around at that pace and ended out playing a lot of long, unpredictable shit out of the back.

[Lumpy]

Interesting post-game interviews with the players, who said the meeting resulted in a tactical decision to press higher up the field from now on (which is how most of the league plays). Certainly showed tonight. Montreal wasn't used to having to move the ball around at that pace and ended out playing a lot of long, unpredictable shit out of the back.
Pressing up the field is the key. Besides forcing the opposition to rush their offence it keeps the players aggressive instead of passive. This should be their style with the players they have.

[DOMIN8R]

I'm very happy for our boys of the field. They showed confidence, determination and skill last night.

I'm at a loss for words regarding the officiating. How could so many calls (or non-calls(?)) occur in a single game? This has to be addressed or tempers are going boil over a-la-DeKlerk.

Our defense looked the part last night. If we can keep that level up and continue to find the back of the net - I'm cautiously optimisitic.

Pressing high and seeing so many of our players play two-way was a refreshing change.

Winter haters seem surprisingly quiet.g:D

[Shakes McQueen]

Winter haters seem surprisingly quiet.g:D

Let's try to keep this stuff out of the discussion, please. I know you don't mean anything diabolical by it, but it will only end badly.

Thanks.

- Scott

[Suds]

There were a lot of positives from last night. It's time to enjoy it for a day. Even if that enjoyment is for the sole reason of beating the Impact and putting them out of the tournament - again. g:D

But alas, it's just one game. The big test now is to see if we can build on this.

[tfcleeds]

Sorry to bring the mood down, but a lot of shit went down after the game. I don't know all the details yet but:

- my wife was spat upon twice as we walked by the IMFC section after the game

- I saw the IMFC fans throw a lit flare at others walking by.

- someone on twitter is reporting that 30 IMFC fans assaulted a group of RPB's leaving four of them injured.

- I saw security and possibly police fighting with IMFC fans after the match. A number of them have been arrested, by some accounts.

I am sure more of this will come to light, but plainly IMFC fans need to be banned from further travel to BMO field or this violence will escalate. And I mean it 'will escalate'.

Again, sorry to be a downer but I am really pissed off right now. I hope our members are ok and not badly hurt.

Sorry to hear that. IMFC fans are pure scum. I've had my own close calls with stuff being thrown by them as I was exiting BMO. Just makes me happy knowing they had the long ride back to Montreal (or perhaps in this case, a night in the slammer).

[Roca]

A group in 110 had a cheer that involved celine dion and c--t, but due to the wind I couldnt make out many other words.
Great times indeed.

That was the Celine Dionne song, sung only at Impact games -- first time in two years we've been able to sing it!

[Fort York Redcoat]

Last night was the first important home game of the campaign and boys in red gave me a real show. Going down a man and still moving on in the tournament is more than I expected but hope springs anew next Wednesday. Play for the win boys cause it's gonna be tough on the away leg!!

[Fort York Redcoat]

That was the Celine Dionne song, sung only at Impact games -- first time in two years we've been able to sing it!

Please share the lyrics with us here and I'll throw it in our Chants section for posterity!

[jabbronies]

If there was one thing to attribute this win to, it was hustle. I haven't seen this team hustle like that all season. They were first to the ball; When a player lost the ball they didn't just stand around and watch, they actually fought to win the ball back; In open play they moved to open space. It was a earned victory.

Another thing I saw was they were calm on the ball. Very smart passing - not just booting the ball around aimlessly. When they were in trouble, they calmly moved the ball and passed it off..TO OUR PLAYERS..unlike other games where we've passed it right to the opposition.

Hope this style of game continues.

As a side note: loved the way they executed the 4-2-3 when they went down a man. Was very well executed having 1 of the forwards drop to support the mids when needed and then back up front when they went on the attack.

[Batman]

Was De Klerk going after the rep.. or the Montreal coach? I couldn't tell.

But he was on fire, that's for sure.

[ryan]

"0-0 is a terrible road result"

"Canadians are our problem"



LOL

[Batman]

so its all cupcakes and sprinkles tonite in TFC land isnt it? we beat an expansion side. at home. whoopee. newsflash: WERE EFFING SUPPOSED TO BEAT EXPANSION SIDES AT HOME. and the official website says "heroic effort". look they can spin it any way they want, were the laughing stock of the league. we still havent won a league match in 8 EFFING TRIES. and even worse, WE DONT EVEN HAVE ONE SINGLE EFFING DRAW IN THOSE EIGHT GAMES EITHER. FUCKING BLACKBURN WON OR DREW 15 FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR AND THE SUPPORTERS PROTESTED MANAGMENT AND STEVE KEAN ALL FUCKING YEAR. EVERY FUCKING WEEK. AND THEY ONLY WENT DOWN ON THE SECOND LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DO WE DO??? NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. WE SHOULD BE THROWING CHICKENS ON THE PITCH.

AND BY THE WAY, IF WE LOSE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST DC UNITED ON THE ROAD (WHICH THERES A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE WILL), THEN WE HAVE TO WIN AT HOME ON THE 26TH AGAINST PHILLY TO AVOID TYING THE ALL-TIME MLS RECORD FOR FUTILITY (MOST LOSSES IN A ROW) -10. LOSE THAT AND THEN ITS OFF TO KANSAS CITY FOR PROLLY ANOTHER LOSS. WHICH WOULD BRING US TO 12. AND COUNTING.
I'M GOIN TO BED.

Going to bed was probably the best thing you could have done.

I'd hate to see your reaction if we lost!

[ryan]

If there was one thing to attribute this win to, it was hustle. I haven't seen this team hustle like that all season. They were first to the ball; When a player lost the ball they didn't just stand around and watch, they actually fought to win the ball back; In open play they moved to open space. It was a earned victory.

Another thing I saw was we they were calm on the ball. Very smart passing - not just booting the ball around aimlessly. When they were in trouble, they calmly moved the ball and passed it off..TO OUR PLAYERS..unlike other games where we've passed it right to the opposition.

Hope this style of game continues.

As a side note: loved the way they executed the 4-2-3 when they went down a man. Was very well executed having 1 of the forwards drop to support the mids when needed and then back up front when they went on the attack.

I thought they interchanged more than that.

Lambe was playing the entire wing really, stopping pushing forward as much when he got gassed but he playing all the way to the back defensively. Also saw Cann and Dunfield get up in the attacking mid spots and everyone properly rotated around smoothly to keep form. Everyone was fantastic truly. Henry was a stalwart back there.

[jabbronies]

I thought they interchanged more than that.

Lambe was playing the entire wing really, stopping pushing forward as much when he got gassed but he playing all the way to the back defensively. Also saw Cann and Dunfield get up in the attacking mid spots and everyone properly rotated around smoothly to keep form. Everyone was fantastic truly. Henry was a stalwart back there.

I think Lambe got dropped back to D replacing Eckersley on the outside. Gave him the ability to run the wings as he did.

[burlington Red]

Very good team performance, good to see Plata back looking dangerous again, everytime he had the ball you were expecting something good to happen, which really hasn't been the case with him this season so far.

I even thought the much maligned Dunfield was very effective when he came on.
Lambe is certainly starting to get amongst goals which is great also.

Fans tonight were amazing, haven't seen an atmosphere like that since the early days

[brad]

Pressing up the field is the key. Besides forcing the opposition to rush their offence it keeps the players aggressive instead of passive. This should be their style with the players they have.

Also very important on a league where the defensive players aren't all tha comfortable on the ball

[TOBOR !]

After last night I think we might see the team come out of it's shell - take more chances.

That we were playing with 10 men wasn't at all noticeable until late in the game when the lads were visibly gassed. Until that point they were moving into space, overlapping and pressing so well Montreal couldn't get into a rhythmn.

They decided to believe in themselves and play with confidence - something they've not done for quite a while.

I call it the Wile E. Coyote principle. He runs off the edge off a cliff and keeps running - no problems - until he looks down. Only when he stops to consider his predicament does he fall.

If the team just plays to it's ability, and everyone has faith in each other to do their jobs then this will be the result more often than not.

Last night they had no option. Especially after going a man down. But they were incredible. And even at the end of the game when they had no strength left they still gave Montreal problems.

Hopefully this was an awakening for the lads and we'll get to see more of this.

[narduch]

Great performance by the team. Seems like they raised their level with their backs against the wall. Let's hope we continue to see performances like this.

There's no need to goad the Winter critics. We are TFC fans too and want nothing more than to see TFC succeed. Winter is still hanging by a thread though. Its going to take a couple of weeks with performances like this to save his job now. But he did survive Anselmi's '4 game test'.

Can't wait for Wednesday now and especially May 23. I'm assuming 10pm kick off next week. I don't see anything on the TFC website yet.

By the way, did anyone catch the official attendance numbers?

Edit: 15,016 was the announced attendance. Debatable numbers as always.

[Greatest Ripoff]

"0-0 is a terrible road result"

"Canadians are our problem"



LOL


For a team that has a supposedly shit defense with too many Canadians on it, not as bad result for having 3 Canadians go all 90 on the back line.

[Technorgasm]

TFC gonna pull a Billy bean and run the train on MLS East.

Winning every game from here on out.
Gonna Tear this league apart.

[ginkster88]

They've had many team meetings this year. But i do believe that putting Frings in his rightful position helps a lot.

100 times this.

Without Frings in the middle of the field to distribute the buildup sputters as soon as the ball leaves his foot in the backline.

[billyfly]

Silly Montrealers, don't they know that teams dressed in blue and white have a hard time playing in Toronto.

[ryan]

anyone else swing by the NE corner and have a laugh at the Limpact supporters post game? They were mad bros. We should have brought the whole group over and sung to them all night.

[ryan]

Hey, who's missing from the postgame thread?

Find it interesting how those ranters all happen to not be in this thread at all.

[Whoop]

It's still only one match.

Just going to enjoy it.

Vancouver will be a tougher test.

[jaahuuu]

Please share the lyrics with us here and I'll throw it in our Chants section for posterity!I'm interested in this too. I'm at the top of 110 and didn't hear it.

[denime]

Find it interesting how those ranters all happen to not be in this thread at all.

Keep it on topic,calling out posters that have different opinion is not allowed on this board.

Thanks,

[Joe Kool]

Wow...what TFC team was that? I wish I could watch that one every week. Montreal were lucky last night they had a guy like Donovan Ricketts. What an awesome game he had keeping it down to only 2 goals against. Good on everyone for their effort including the supporters. I couldn't be there in person last night but support sounded really good despite the half empty stands you could see on TV.

[Suds]

Chevy - take comments like that somewhere else. The thread has been positive so far. The goading and negativity is not appreciated.

[Canary10]

We really needed that. It was nice to hear BMO have that edge and people really into the game. And actually get a result and not dread even the thought of TFC. Reminded me of the good ol' days of early March 2012.

[Chevy]

Chevy - take comments like that somewhere else. The thread has been positive so far. The goading and negativity is not appreciated.

Fair enough! I think the pic below sums up our season so far.
http://fapit.net/imgs/680/positivity.jpg

[sashavukelich]

1 wonderful match of respite!!!! So ncie to win again. Let's hope it can continue. What was BDK so rageful about?

[maxpower]

1 wonderful match of respite!!!! So ncie to win again. Let's hope it can continue. What was BDK so rageful about?

Can't be sure. He and Jesse Marsh were going at it all game.

[Villa TFC]

WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE.

Being Canadian Champions may be meaningless to you, but it means a lot to most TFC supporters who actually understand soccer. Cup competitions in almost every country have the prestige, history and tradition. Granted our competition is only a few years old but then again there are dozens of football clubs around the world that are older than our country! If you don't understand the importance of a cup competition, then it's probably best to keep quiet rather than embarrass yourself in front of people who really understand the game. Besides, after 8 straight league losses, no win could be considered 'almost meaningless.'

[Pookie]

"Canadians are our problem"



LOL

Not going to bring this thread down. Hustle won that game and it was a beautiful thing.

Roster management issues are still the team's achilles heal. I'll be running a blog tomorrow that highlights the amount of minutes distributed to young players on TFC vs other MLS clubs. Shocking really. All relates back to our decision to spend money on band-aids while skimping on player identification and investing in DPs. The 3rd most expensive roster in the league should not rely so heavily on inexperienced talent.

Anyways, another day another discussion. Today is meant to be a basking day.

[ryan]

Not going to bring this thread down. Hustle won that game and it was a beautiful thing.

Roster management issues are still the team's achilles heal. I'll be running a blog tomorrow that highlights the amount of minutes distributed to young players on TFC vs other MLS clubs. Shocking really. All relates back to our decision to spend money on band-aids while skimping on player identification and investing in DPs. The 3rd most expensive roster in the league should not rely so heavily on inexperienced talent.

Anyways, another day another discussion. Today is meant to be a basking day.

Aye roster management is an issue, doesn't mean it's a Canadian issue.

All Canadians had a good or great game last night, did they not?

[ryan]

Also, for the love of god, 20 year old clubs who promote leagues are not expansion sides. I don't care what anyone says, that is not an expansion club and neither was Portland or Vancouver.

[Canary10]

^ Speaking of which, Montreal couldn't even start Patrice Bernier? That was really poor.

[Ageroo]

Well....yes JDG is overpaid and has underperformed for sure......but last night I think he deserves a lot of credit. Busted his ass off last night in the midfield as did most of our squad.....Over the last 2 matches I thought he has played much better....Hopefully he is getting his act together mentally and physically.

I know there is a lot of hate on him and everyone knows I am a fan.....regardless of the fact that this is probably going to be his last season with TFC...I just hope for efforts like last night for the rest of the season.

[Ageroo]

^ Speaking of which, Montreal couldn't even start Patrice Bernier? That was really poor.

Bernier started for the Impact.....or am I imagining things.....

[Canary10]

I thought he subbed on later? Or did he sub off?

[Roogsy]

I'm very happy for our boys of the field. They showed confidence, determination and skill last night.

I'm at a loss for words regarding the officiating. How could so many calls (or non-calls(?)) occur in a single game? This has to be addressed or tempers are going boil over a-la-DeKlerk.

Our defense looked the part last night. If we can keep that level up and continue to find the back of the net - I'm cautiously optimisitic.

Pressing high and seeing so many of our players play two-way was a refreshing change.

Winter haters seem surprisingly quiet.g:D

Really Hal?

You guys complain about the amount of negativity and then intentionally provoke a response?

Do you really want my opinion on last night and then run back to the private board to complain about the negativity?

When the "negative" posters allow the positive guys to relish a win we're called out. If someone comes in and is still negative like Lumpy posted, he gets shit on and told to leave.

What the fuck are we supposed to do?

BTW for the guys calling out Lower-eastsider...he's done more for TFC than most of you combined and I would put his effort, passion and results on behalf of TFC up against any of you guys any day of the week.

For the record, I was out last night and wanted to post about the game but got home late and went to bed. I can't believe the childishness of several posters actually BEGGING for an internet fight after a TFC win. 1 win validates your point of view? What do you think 8 losses does about ours?

Anyways, on the ACTUAL game, I thought the win was good last night. There were very positive elements of the game. And there was passion and intensity that was missing in previous games. That being said, it was that passion and intensity that they came out with that was a big part in the first goal and put the Impact on their heels. It wasn't anything tactical. I thought it was a clumsy game on both sides. From what I could tell, this team had pumped itself up, I doubt it was Winter (my personal opinion, I haven't seen anything from him that shows he is able to do that, DeClerk on the other hand...) and it doesn't change my view on Winter. I highly doubt this team can come out with the same intensity week in week out in a long season and in the end, that will be it's undoing since it's already started.

And that red card was bullshit by the way. Maybe a yellow. But it served to firm up the team's resolve and they played hard for each other for 70 minutes and I say good on them.

But for heaven's sakes...1 win and many are forgetting the 8 losses behind it. :facepalm:

[Canary10]

Shit, he did start. I'm a fool.

[Roogsy]

Silly Montrealers, don't they know that teams dressed in blue and white have a hard time playing in Toronto.

:lol:

[Huyton]

I was in row 16 in 127, where were you? Gotta agree with these comments. But my friends was telling me before the game that the North End Elite is not really functioning as a supporters group anymore. What's the story with them?

Row 15, Seat 15.

The back of 127 started several chants that spread to the rest of the section. I've mentioned to NEE that rather than complaining that the back of 127 is quiet, and that we don't join in, they should move back so we can hear them. It's tough to join in stuff you can't hear!

Anyway, it was good in that there are normally a lot of tourists, but at least they tended to join in the simple stuff. Simple and loud beats quiet and complex.

[Pookie]

Aye roster management is an issue, doesn't mean it's a Canadian issue.

All Canadians had a good or great game last night, did they not?

Aye, they did. Was also impressed with Jeremy Hall's hustle. His sliding block at the top of the box in the 2nd half was a thing of beauty.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Really Hal?

You guys complain about the amount of negativity and then intentionally provoke a response?

Do you really want my opinion on last night and then run back to the private board to complain about the negativity?

When the "negative" posters allow the positive guys to relish a win we're called out. If someone comes in and is still negative like Lumpy posted, he gets shit on and told to leave.

What the fuck are we supposed to do?

BTW for the guys calling out Lower-eastsider...he's done more for TFC than most of you combined and I would put his effort, passion and results on behalf of TFC up against any of you guys any day of the week.

For the record, I was out last night and wanted to post about the game but got home late and went to bed. I can't believe the childishness of several posters actually BEGGING for an internet fight after a TFC win. 1 win validates your point of view? What do you think 8 losses does about ours?

Anyways, on the ACTUAL game, I thought the win was good last night. There were very positive elements of the game. And there was passion and intensity that was missing in previous games. That being said, it was that passion and intensity that they came out with that was a big part in the first goal and put the Impact on their heels. It wasn't anything tactical. I thought it was a clumsy game on both sides. From what I could tell, this team had pumped itself up, I doubt it was Winter (my personal opinion, I haven't seen anything from him that shows he is able to do that, DeClerk on the other hand...) and it doesn't change my view on Winter. I highly doubt this team can come out with the same intensity week in week out in a long season and in the end, that will be it's undoing since it's already started.

And that red card was bullshit by the way. Maybe a yellow. But it served to firm up the team's resolve and they played hard for each other for 70 minutes and I say good on them.

But for heaven's sakes...1 win and many are forgetting the 8 losses behind it. :facepalm:

Let's leave the "I'm a better supporter because.." talk and concentrate on the match. Both sides can enjoy the win on it's own and leave the big picture to other threads that are well entrenched in their own discussion on the two differences on the team this year.

This post is for everyone not just Roogsy and Thanks Roogs for actually commenting on the game in your post as well.

Breathe deep people.

[ryan]

Aye, they did. Was also impressed with Jeremy Hall's hustle. His sliding block at the top of the box in the 2nd half was a thing of beauty.

Hall's shot late in the game was a great strike as well. That was going to curl just inside the post but Ricketts got enough to steer it wide. That dolt Gantar missed that though and gave the goal kick.

[DoubleUp]

Aye, they did. Was also impressed with Jeremy Hall's hustle. His sliding block at the top of the box in the 2nd half was a thing of beauty.



especially considering he recently just returned from longterm injury.

[T-boy]

Reminds me of one of my favourite Homer quotes - "Well, I'm tired of being a wannabe league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!"

I blame the alcohol last night! :picard:

[Fort York Redcoat]

Silly Montrealers, don't they know that teams dressed in blue and white have a hard time playing in Toronto.


Please let this continue vs Honduras June 12!!!

[sashavukelich]

Silly Montrealers, don't they know that teams dressed in blue and white have a hard time playing in Toronto.


x googleplex. amazing. I'm glad we did them last night, i hope this is a genuine resurgence and not just 1 spark in an otherwise blackhole of poor play. com'on TFC!!!

[TOBOR !]

Also, for the love of god, 20 year old clubs who promote leagues are not expansion sides. I don't care what anyone says, that is not an expansion club and neither was Portland or Vancouver.

.. or Seattle. I agree with your point (hopefully no-one brings up Philadelphia).

[Ageroo]

Hall's shot late in the game was a great strike as well. That was going to curl just inside the post but Ricketts got enough to steer it wide. That dolt Gantar missed that though and gave the goal kick.

I am in 115 and I saw the save clear as day. If he didn't get a touch on it....it was a goal. I have no clue how the linesman and ref missed Ricketts touching it. I was freaking out.

Ricketts is very smart to pretend as if he didn't touch it though...veteran keeper and a veteran move. Still hate him though....lol

[tfcleeds]

Really impressed with Hall last night. No one really seemed to think much of his acquisition, but after last night, you're kind of left wondering why Dallas let him go? Only one game mind you.

[T-boy]

I am in 115 and I saw the save clear as day. If he didn't get a touch on it....it was a goal. I have no clue how the linesman and ref missed Ricketts touching it. I was freaking out.

Ricketts is very smart to pretend as if he didn't touch it though...veteran keeper and a veteran move. Still hate him though....lol

I love Kocic and Frei - but you can really make a case for having a veteran like Ricketts in goal. This is something TFC could really be missing - some old eyes in goal looking over everything. Ricketts pulled off some fantastic saves last night.

[T-boy]

Really impressed with Hall last night. No one really seemed to think much of his acquisition, but after last night, you're kind of left wondering why Dallas let him go? Only one game mind you.

If you had only seen one TFC game this season last night, you would think they were all wonderkids, mind you! JDG played like a man inspired. How if only he could play like that the rest of the time! Even Dunfield came on and looked good!

[ryan]

I am in 115 and I saw the save clear as day. If he didn't get a touch on it....it was a goal. I have no clue how the linesman and ref missed Ricketts touching it. I was freaking out.

Ricketts is very smart to pretend as if he didn't touch it though...veteran keeper and a veteran move. Still hate him though....lol

lol aye. That was great on his part, didn't even as much as flinch to suggest he touched it. That's an international mentality, every little thing to your advantage and complete emotional control to show nothing to suggest you know it's a corner.

I can see Hall netting us a couple to a few goals over this season if he keeps doing what he's doing.

[Ageroo]

I love Kocic and Frei - but you can really make a case for having a veteran like Ricketts in goal. This is something TFC could really be missing - some old eyes in goal looking over everything. Ricketts pulled off some fantastic saves last night.

As much as I hate the man...Ricketts is a very solid keeper. Very calm and cool under pressure. Booming kick, towering body, commands the box well. He really played fantasically last night.......the scoreline could have easily been 4-0. Some spectacular stops by him for sure...

[TFC Tifoso]

Row 15, Seat 15.

The back of 127 started several chants that spread to the rest of the section. I've mentioned to NEE that rather than complaining that the back of 127 is quiet, and that we don't join in, they should move back so we can hear them. It's tough to join in stuff you can't hear!

Anyway, it was good in that there are normally a lot of tourists, but at least they tended to join in the simple stuff. Simple and loud beats quiet and complex.

or you guys who want to participate can come and introduce yourselves before the game and spend it down front with us......doesn't really make sense to put a group in the back......but it hasn't been the greatest season so far for us, but it seems to be the same stadium wide anyways.....last night was a bit better but far from what is acceptable to us in 127.....

and to clarify some assumptions, NEE is still an active supporters group.......but some downsizing happened in the offseason so we're basically regrouping this year......

so yeah Huyton, come on down and let us know who you are.....its a lot easier to be included when we know who you are....that's the way we've always worked.......btw I'm NEE's drummer......but let's discuss NEE matters on NEE's board as opposed to here........

[Gazza]

If you had only seen one TFC game this season last night, you would think they were all wonderkids, mind you! JDG played like a man inspired. How if only he could play like that the rest of the time! Even Dunfield came on and looked good!

I'm thinking Dunfield should only be brought on in the final minutes to kill a game.

[__wowza]

my throat hurts :(

[Walms]

That was a great night!!

[Ageroo]

I'm thinking Dunfield should only be brought on in the final minutes to kill a game.

Or a man....;)

[Roca]

Please share the lyrics with us here and I'll throw it in our Chants section for posterity!

It changes every year, and was slightly toned down this year, but here's the version we were singing last night:

(to the tune of Alouette)

Chorus:
Beat the Impact
Beat the fucking Limp Act
Beat the Impact
Back to Montreal

Leader: Do you live in Outremont?
Response: (do you live in Outremont?)
Leader: Outremont!
Response: (Outremont)
Leader: F*cking C*nt!
Response: (F*cking c*nt!)

Oooohhhhh
(Chorus)

Other verses:

Are you in the FLQ?
FLQ!
Who are you?

Where'd ya put Pierre Laporte?
Pierre Laporte!
Il est mort!

Would ya do Celine Dione?
Celine Dione
Condom on

Did you like Rene Levesque?
Rene Levesque
Fuckin' prick!

Do you take the Nutralite?
Nutralite!
Fucking shite!

Oui nous sommes les têtes carrés
Têtes carrés
Fuckin' A!

After every verse, just like in "Alouette," you sing the last two lines from each previous verse before the chorus.

[DangerRed]

Awesome game, awesome effort, awesome result.

Frings was the pinnacle of professionalism last night, absolutely fantastic. Young Henry had a great game too. And the ability to hold out against some very decent attacking by Montreal in the second half gives me a shred of new hope for our back line.

That said, I'm still unconvinced that Kocic is a great goal keeper because of his overly aggressive off-the-line moves that frequently left him exposed.

Bob DeKlerk needs valium, badly.

Winter should still be fired. Someone else said that the victory shows that these guys aren't an 0-8 team and that there's something else wrong with the club. Winter is that "something else."

[Suds]

Really impressed with Hall last night. No one really seemed to think much of his acquisition, but after last night, you're kind of left wondering why Dallas let him go? Only one game mind you.

The one thing he has on his side is his speed. If he makes a mistake he has a chance to bail himself out. It's a good attribute to have as long as player does not need to rely solely on it. It will also be good to have some competition for starting spots on out back line.

We had a number of players turn in a good performance last night and that was the difference. From the line-up Winter put out there to the player's execution. I'm tempering my excitement form last night's win to this one game. The big challenge to the coaches and players is to see if they can replicate this a second time. Then a third. Time will tell if this is a one-off or an actual change in direction.

But nothing is better than handing Montreal their collective asses to themselves! g:D

[BayernTFC]

I was pleasantly surprised by the early goal, and then quite worried for TFC after the red card was shown to Eckersley (I didn't understand that decision as my impression was that Eckersley was the player who was fouled). The players could have convinced themselves that they are just snake bitten and shut down. However, TFC battled through adversity and did not look like a team which were playing a man short for almost 75 minutes. Montreal only needed a scoring tie to advance. The whole team really stepped it up. I'm proud of them.

[Ageroo]

Avila, JDG and Frings midfield is the one I want to see going forward. They all played well and seemed to work very well with each other.

[ManUtd4ever]

As others have mentioned, Doneil Henry was fantastic last night, and I think he is a testament to the Academy. If he keeps it up, he should defintely supplant Aceval as a starting CB moving forward. Likewise, I was also very impressed with Jeremy Hall, who demonstrated the ability to fill in seamlessly for Ecks at RB.

[BayernTFC]

I'm tempering my excitement form last night's win to this one game. The big challenge to the coaches and players is to see if they can replicate this a second time. Then a third. Time will tell if this is a one-off or an actual change in direction.
It's only going to get tougher. TFC will have to continue to fight hard, find that extra gear, and not give up. Vancouver is a quality opponent with excellent talent.



But nothing is better than handing Montreal their collective asses to themselves! g:D
Priceless. Let's break Vancouver's heart too and make a MasterCard commercial. :D

[jabbronies]

I'm thinking Dunfield should only be brought on in the final minutes to kill a game.


Or a man....;)

We were having a laugh last night when Dunfield came on.

The only reason you bring on Dunfield is to get the ball as far away from our goal as possible. This is the conversation you'd have with him if you were the manager:

"Don't pass, Don't shoot, don't run with the ball as a matter of fact don't hold on to the ball for longer than 2 seconds - Just kick it as hard and as far as you can away from our goal. And if you need to slide tackle someone in order to do that, take out their knees in the process."

[jabbronies]

Soolsma was a boss last night.

[Beach_Red]

Winter should still be fired. Someone else said that the victory shows that these guys aren't an 0-8 team and that there's something else wrong with the club. Winter is that "something else."

Maybe, maybe not. Winter was brought in as part of a huge overhaul and some very big plans (might even say arrogant plans) and big talk. He was given a mandate. If that mandate has changed (maybe that's what happened four games ago in his meeting with Anselmi) and immediate results are being given a higher priority than 'progress,' then maybe Winter isn't the problem.

[ExiledRed]

Just popperd in to say that Im not hiding or failing to say positive things about the team when they are doing well. They did great.

Im just fucking busy. The lads did awesome last night, and Im as delighted as I am amazed.

I still dont think ill be wearing that Everton shirt at seasons end, and Winter is on stolen time.

[Oldtimer]

But for heaven's sakes...1 win and many are forgetting the 8 losses behind it. :facepalm:

Welcome to the Toronto sports scene. After next win, we're heading to the MLS Cup final. :D

[TFC Tifoso]

Soolsma was a boss last night.

I would say Soolsma is our second best overall player behind Frings.......sure he 's slow as hell but when you have the technical ability and ability to leave a man flat footed 1 v 1, you're always going to have a head start on him......that works to Soolsma's advantage because when he does beat his man he doesn't have too much more up the field to go before he can put in a cross or cut inside to shoot......been a fan of his since mid last year......too many people pointed to his lack of pace and never paid attention to his technical ability.....

[jabbronies]

I would say Soolsma is our second best overall player behind Frings.......sure he 's slow as hell but when you have the technical ability and ability to leave a man flat footed 1 v 1, you're always going to have a head start on him......that works to Soolsma's advantage because when he does beat his man he doesn't have too much more up the field to go before he can put in a cross or cut inside to shoot......been a fan of his since mid last year......too many people pointed to his lack of pace and never paid attention to his technical ability.....

I was one of them. I didn't really start to appreciate him until end of last season

[Yohan]

Cann-Henry CB paring looked good. Cann to provide the muscle, Henry with the pace.

Mtl was on a 4 game unbeaten streak (2 wins, 2 draws) in all competitions, so they were a bit in form

Jeremy Hall may be this year's Mikael Yourassowsky, but with more pace and composure. Looks like that utility man who can play multiple positions. Seems to have a knack of making late runs just outside the box. On Game in 6, you can clearly see Ricketts make an excellent save on Hall's cutback shot

[Canary10]

Thinking about the game, I wonder if Winter's problem isn't tactics but man management. We seem to do well in games where there is a natural reason to be up for it (semi-final of a championship), but poorly in run of the mill games. He doesn't seem to be able to motivate.

(Recognize this is hardly a new idea).

[reggie]

i love night games....

[TFC Tifoso]

I was one of them. I didn't really start to appreciate him until end of last season

hey fair enough man.......he had the injury to start last year and most really didn't start to notice him until the last CCL game with Dallas.....he was great in that one!

imo when DK is healthy I'd go with Johnson-----DK------Soolsma and keep Plata on the bench to sub in and run at tired defenders......

[trane]

I am happy for our players, they did great. I care more about the Canadian Championship and the CL then MLS, so I was very divided last night, I new a win would have the effect it is having on fans. It would induce a false sense that everything is hunky dory, well it is not. And anyone who has read my posts over the past 6 years, I am hardly always negative. But I refuse to be fooled.

But last nights game just confirms what some of us have been saying all along. This is not a 0-8 team, and the manager that can only get 0-8 out of this team, does not deserve to manage this team. This does not change, in fact this is further confirmed.


We have two weeks, Winter shuold be fired, and another coach should be given the reigns of this solid team before another season is lost. Again I love the CL, and now that we are in the finals we may as well go all the way, because if Winter is still in charge by then, and things have not turned aroud it will be too late for the MLS.


Henry has to be given the starting CB spot. JDG looked on is game again. And Ricketts defenitely touched that shot from Hall.

Again I do not hate winter, I would like him to suceed, but I support Toronto FC, not a manager, managment or ownership. I support the team that carries the name on my city on its shirt.

[Ageroo]

imo when DK is healthy I'd go with Johnson-----DK------Soolsma and keep Plata on the bench to sub in and run at tired defenders......

It will be tough when everyone is healthy again....Lambe has definitely made a case to be one of the front 3.

[ag futbol]

I can appreciate that Soolsma has improved massively, but he still has some very definite shortcomings (as all MLS players do). He has an odd way of doing things at times. Last night I distinctly remember him standing off a ball that was passed to him from distance only to wait for it to bounce off the ground and go over the touch line, something I've observed him do on multiple occasions. Composure around the penalty area also lacking.

But hey, he can get in an accurate cross nine times out of ten, so if that's the goal then I think at the 75k or so we pay him that's a fair deal. I'd hold off calling him any kind of game-breaker as opposed to simply a worthwhile contributor.

[ryan]

It will be tough when everyone is healthy again....Lambe has definitely made a case to be one of the front 3.

Aye was gonna say that too. He's finding himself in the right spots and making the most of them right now, not sure how you pull him out of the lineup at this moment.

[Ageroo]

Aye was gonna say that too. He's finding himself in the right spots and making the most of them right now, not sure how you pull him out of the lineup at this moment.

Lambe is dfefinitely one of the in-form players at the moment. Kudos to him big time last night on his defending last night. Him dropping back to right back and playing well was a bonus. He gave 110% last night.

[trane]

Ya, me and my boy were taunting them so I would like to take some credit for that rage :)

What a fucking high, I am going to ride that for a bit. Brought some friends for their first game and they LOVED it, totally sold!

What a game, I was pissed when they dropped back and played defensively as I think you should play like it is nil-nil until the end of the game, we could have had 3-0 easy.

2 rules:

Dont play a defensive soccer game

Never attack Russia during the winter.

That is so true, no one ever wins playing defensive football.

[C.Ronaldo]

Great game, but kocic still saved our asses one too many time. (and was out of position or couldnt pass properly a few times aswell).

the win was all heart and hustle. Which in MLS is what you really need because the skill level isnt there.

Dunfield still isnt worthy, he falls alot, has little skill, and is unathletic. Maybe a bench warmer, but I'd rather give that job youngster with more speed and skill.
Im sure that meeting had something to do with him not starting. He had to have admitted to himself and the team that he isnt starting material

Question is, Do you put Koevs back in his place?
He doesnt play the pressure game, and is fat and out of shape. Although maybe Frings and De Klerk can light a fire under his ass.
I'd prefer he become at 70th minute sub.

[trane]

so its all cupcakes and sprinkles tonite in TFC land isnt it? we beat an expansion side. at home. whoopee. newsflash: WERE EFFING SUPPOSED TO BEAT EXPANSION SIDES AT HOME. and the official website says "heroic effort". look they can spin it any way they want, were the laughing stock of the league. we still havent won a league match in 8 EFFING TRIES. and even worse, WE DONT EVEN HAVE ONE SINGLE EFFING DRAW IN THOSE EIGHT GAMES EITHER. FUCKING BLACKBURN WON OR DREW 15 FUCKING GAMES THIS YEAR AND THE SUPPORTERS PROTESTED MANAGMENT AND STEVE KEAN ALL FUCKING YEAR. EVERY FUCKING WEEK. AND THEY ONLY WENT DOWN ON THE SECOND LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DO WE DO??? NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE CELEBRATE A ALMOST MEANINGLESS WIN AGAINST AN EXPANSION SIDE. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. WE SHOULD BE THROWING CHICKENS ON THE PITCH.

AND BY THE WAY, IF WE LOSE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST DC UNITED ON THE ROAD (WHICH THERES A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE WILL), THEN WE HAVE TO WIN AT HOME ON THE 26TH AGAINST PHILLY TO AVOID TYING THE ALL-TIME MLS RECORD FOR FUTILITY (MOST LOSSES IN A ROW) -10. LOSE THAT AND THEN ITS OFF TO KANSAS CITY FOR PROLLY ANOTHER LOSS. WHICH WOULD BRING US TO 12. AND COUNTING.
I'M GOIN TO BED.


That is our season goal, to beat the impact and not to tie the MLS all time lossing streak. hahahahahahaaha.

[jabbronies]

It will be tough when everyone is healthy again....Lambe has definitely made a case to be one of the front 3.


hey fair enough man.......he had the injury to start last year and most really didn't start to notice him until the last CCL game with Dallas.....he was great in that one!

imo when DK is healthy I'd go with Johnson-----DK------Soolsma and keep Plata on the bench to sub in and run at tired defenders......

It's nice to have this problem and IMO it'll work to our advantage if the players are managed correctly.
it's a very diverse group of players here. If we are in a situation where one style of play isn't working, we have the ability to change up the pace and try something different.

I think the DK/Johnson/Soolsma line would work for a strong style of attack where a Plata/Johnson/Lambe would be more of an all our "styled" attack.

I think Avila can play both those games, but Silva is only a "styled" attacking player. Will be interesting to see how the midfield switches to accommodate.

[Ageroo]

Vancouver offers different challenges....it will be interesting to see how we approach the matchup. I say this style of lineup suits us better against vancouver.

[ryan]

That is so true, no one ever wins playing defensive football.

We're in the final because we played a defensive 1st leg. Sorry, but that's wrong.

[Canary10]

Great game, but kocic still saved our asses one too many time. (and was out of position or couldnt pass properly a few times aswell).

the win was all heart and hustle. Which in MLS is what you really need because the skill level isnt there.

Dunfield still isnt worthy, he falls alot, has little skill, and is unathletic. Maybe a bench warmer, but I'd rather give that job youngster with more speed and skill.
Im sure that meeting had something to do with him not starting. He had to have admitted to himself and the team that he isnt starting material

Question is, Do you put Koevs back in his place?
He doesnt play the pressure game, and is fat and out of shape. Although maybe Frings and De Klerk can light a fire under his ass.
I'd prefer he become at 70th minute sub.

Well Johnson is no central striker, so yeah.

[jabbronies]

That is so true, no one ever wins playing defensive football.

Didn't Italy win the World Cup playing defensive soccer?

[ryan]

Well Johnson is no central striker, so yeah.

Yep, he's more suited outside or playing underneath DK. Decent in replacement for when DK is unavailable though.

[TFC Tifoso]

It will be tough when everyone is healthy again....Lambe has definitely made a case to be one of the front 3.

yeah that's true....Lambe has been playing well the past few weeks......


It's nice to have this problem and IMO it'll work to our advantage if the players are managed correctly.
it's a very diverse group of players here. If we are in a situation where one style of play isn't working, we have the ability to change up the pace and try something different.

I think the DK/Johnson/Soolsma line would work for a strong style of attack where a Plata/Johnson/Lambe would be more of an all our "styled" attack.

I think Avila can play both those games, but Silva is only a "styled" attacking player. Will be interesting to see how the midfield switches to accommodate.

that's fair to say......would be a nice problem to have providing we can string some wins together now......

[Yohan]

Well Johnson is no central striker, so yeah.

I kinda disagree. There are similarities to how RJ plays when Maicon Santos played in Toronto, that RJ isn't very good at holding the ball in CF role, but I think RJ can play lone striker under certain conditions. As a slasher striker, he's become better on off the ball movements, plus with decent dribbling and ability to play in winger role has him stretching the defence so that it's not easy to man mark him out of the game, like Maicon Santos was. TFC really shouldn't be lofting long balls to RJ in any case, but play the ball on the ground

[trane]

We're in the final because we played a defensive 1st leg. Sorry, but that's wrong.



Sorry, but I was being sarcastic.

[TFC Tifoso]

Didn't Italy win the World Cup playing defensive soccer?

not necessarily......they had a great defense but also scored in '06......they had only two games where they scored 1 goal (1-0 v Australia in R16 and 1-1 in the final).....defense was the foundation but they scored too.....

[trane]

Didn't Italy win the World Cup playing defensive soccer?


I figured that after me posting about the virtues of defensive football for the past 5 years, the post would have been recognized as sarcastic, with out me having to list all the victories of devensice football. ( most recenlty Chelsea over Barca)

[jabbronies]

yeah that's true....Lambe has been playing well the past few weeks......



that's fair to say......would be a nice problem to have providing we can string some wins together now......

and this is based on the fact that we continue to play the way we are. It's a nice problem when they play like they did last night.

[ag futbol]

Well Johnson is no central striker, so yeah.
Agreed, he's working his ass off but overall that's not his best spot. Push him out wide and move Plata to the bench.

I think we get fooled sometimes that our smaller wide players have good games when they are purposely given space so the other team can counter attack us (RSL, Chicago) or when they go against weaker opposition (last night). RJ is just more versatile than either Lambe or Plata, and while his 'vision' at times drives me nuts, he's probably the best attacking player we have.

[ag futbol]

Sorry, but I was being sarcastic.
Ha! I caught that one

[TFC07]

Great win despite being a man down. Hopefully this win carries over in league play.

Hopefully TFC can convince CSA to let Eckersley play next game.

[TFC Tifoso]

and this is based on the fact that we continue to play the way we are. It's a nice problem when they play like they did last night.

absolutely.....hope games like last night are not the exception though.....we need 3-4 more of those in a row.....imo when Ryan Johnson says something like "he has our back and we have his" about Winter that is not just lip service.......the players may genuinely like the man, regardless of what the relationship is within FO.....players and coach have to stick together.....

[DoubleUp]

Lambe is dfefinitely one of the in-form players at the moment. Kudos to him big time last night on his defending last night. Him dropping back to right back and playing well was a bonus. He gave 110% last night.

I'll second that!

I was sceptical! but seems like he has found the pace of the game.

Still not fully decisive but atm clutch.

[Ageroo]

I'll second that!

I was sceptical! but seems like he has found the pace of the game.

Still not fully decisive but atm clutch.

I attribute his in-form play to the amount of FIFA he plays....all he talks about on his twitter is playing that game. Maybe he has been studying his moves.... ;)

[trane]

Ha! I caught that one

Thank you.

[Canary10]

Reginald's still a kid too. He'll get better.

[David_Oliveira]

I think that the team played really well. They definitely showed they are a better team than 0-8. I just wish this team showed up more often.

[ryan]

Great win despite being a man down. Hopefully this win carries over in league play.

Hopefully TFC can convince CSA to let Eckersley play next game.

They'll probably back Gantar, wouldn't count on it. Hall has shown he can fill in and do quite well so it's not a devastating loss to lose him for the 1st leg.

[DOMIN8R]

Really Hal?

You guys complain about the amount of negativity and thenintentionally provoke a response?
What does this mean? You think that I posted something to provoke a response from you?
Really? There is no conspiracy, Roogs.

Do you really want my opinion on last night and then run back to the private board to complain about the negativity?
You can post your opinion or not. None of my post was directed at you. There is no conspiracy against you, Roogs.

When the "negative" posters allow the positive guys to relish a win we're called out.
Nobody called you out. Nobody. Should we thank you for allowing us to enjoy a victory? Or, do we simply owe you a debt of gratitude?
g:D


Again, there is no conspiracy against you. Period. Full stop. I will not engage you again in this thread. I know that you like to have the last word. It is yours, my friend. I will buy you a beer next time our paths meet and hopefully this will be behind us.

Sorry, Mods (off topic) but after that attack, I felt that I should defend myself.

[Toronto]

Beating Montreal does not make a season. Beating Vancouver next round does not make a season. This team needs to make the play-offs to gain any credibility with me and the market that is Toronto. This year will be a failure if Montreal and Vancouver both make the play-offs and we don't.

[edited]

[Abou Sky]

We're in the final because we played a defensive 1st leg. Sorry, but that's wrong.

Have to disagree, we are in the finals DESPITE the fact that we played a defensive first leg.

Edit: (IMO)

[ryan]

Have to disagree, we are in the finals DESPITE the fact that we played a defensive first leg.

Edit: (IMO)

They were tired and emotionally worn after RSL heartbreaker. If they went for more offensive Montreal surely would have scored and we may not be through. That first clean sheet of the 2012 year was a good step for us and I don't see how it's a negative.

You believe had we pushed the tired legs we would have not conceded? That's a tough sell considering we had failed to clean sheet anyone coming into it.

[Chris Wren]

Great win last night. So nice to knock out the Montreal l'impdicks, and celebrate in front of their away support. Revenge is a dish best served cold, which it often is down at BMO early in the year. When do the chants of "Reg-gie, Reg-gie, Reg-gie," start?

[Couchy81]

They'll probably back Gantar, wouldn't count on it. Hall has shown he can fill in and do quite well so it's not a devastating loss to lose him for the 1st leg.

I would still try to get that card rescinded if I was TFC. They have evidence that this clown can't officiate properly, since he had a red card rescinded in MLS this week.

[Pookie]

They were tired and emotionally worn after RSL heartbreaker. If they went for more offensive Montreal surely would have scored and we may not be through. That first clean sheet of the 2012 year was a good step for us and I don't see how it's a negative.

You believe had we pushed the tired legs we would have not conceded? That's a tough sell considering we had failed to clean sheet anyone coming into it.

This is a fair point. The pitch in Montreal has also been compared with concrete. Push to far forward and a long ball could be hard to track down.

Anyways, can't see the point in debating how the win was achieved. The only game Montreal is looking forward to next week is watching the one in which we are playing

[Yohan]

I highly doubt Ecks will get that card recinded. And since this is ACC, it would be up to CSA to review. I think the red card is harsh but there is enough benefit of doubt on Gantar's side. It's not 100% clear
I would still try to get that card rescinded if I was TFC. They have evidence that this clown can't officiate properly, since he had a red card rescinded in MLS this week.

[ryan]

Great win last night. So nice to knock out the Montreal l'impdicks, and celebrate in front of their away support. Revenge is a dish best served cold, which it often is down at BMO early in the year. When do the chants of "Reg-gie, Reg-gie, Reg-gie," start?


OHHHH WHENNNN REG-GIEEEE
SCORESSSS FUCKKK-INGGGG GOALSSSS
OHHHH WHENNNN REG-GIEEEE
SCORESSSS FUCKKK-INGGGG GOALSSSS
OH WHEN REG-GIE SCORES FUCK-ING GOALS
I WANT TO BEEEE, IN THAT NUMBER
WHEN REGGIE LAMBE SCORES FUCK-ING GOALS!

OH WHEN REG-GIE (OH WHEN REG-GIE)
SCORES FUCK-ING GOALS! (SCORES FUCK-ING GOALS!)

...

:D




I would still try to get that card rescinded if I was TFC. They have evidence that this clown can't officiate properly, since he had a red card rescinded in MLS this week.

Hopefully I'm wrong then. :)

[ginkster88]

It was a nice win.

But TFC could have quite easily lost 4-2. Or won 4-0.

Still need to prevent giving away horrible chances and finish better.

[DoubleUp]

Reginald's still a kid too. He'll get better.



This is true!

Seems to have the right attitude, he can make himself a career if he stays focused and works hard.

[hodgkiss]

i would just like to point out that the so-called "unproven cb" that someone mentioned (here on this board) a few days ago was anything but.
henry played very well last night and deserves to start on a regular basis. sure he is young and will make mistakes, but he has
certainly shown the heart, ability and the knowledge to solidify part of that back line. well done henry. well done team!

[Just One Man]

One well played Cup match during the midst of the worst start to an MLS season ever is small consolation.

[TFC Tifoso]

also needs to be remembered that there has to be some sustained efforts in order to make a conclusion.....one good game doesn't do it.......up to yesterday, the sustained effort was a losing one so the criticisms were justified.....

was the win last night great?.....for sure......now lets see some more on a regular basis.......

[Cobblers]

Well Johnson is no central striker, so yeah.

While I agree it might not be where he is best suited, I think he can definitely play the position. He's decent at winning and holding the ball up (though his decision making and first pass from there are his weakness to me), he gets his head on EVERYTHING so he's a good target, he can run at defenders with the ball, makes decent runs off the ball, and in general works a lot harder than Koevs... To me his biggest downfalls are his passing and he gets easily frustrated, and that seems to affect his confidence a bit...

[zamperina]

To the Victors go the spoils courtesy of Cake Boss...

https://p.twimg.com/AsiFZwBCAAAby64.jpg (http://twitter.com/rachelbonnetta/status/200556860846243840/photo/1/large)

[Furtado91]

does anyone have footage from the montreal stuff that went down last night? im curious to see it again. Pete i know that one woman who was standing beside you near the go train tunnel said she had it all on camera. but was curious if anyone has uploaded it or something.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Beating Montreal does not make a season. Beating Vancouver next round does not make a season. This team needs to make the play-offs to gain any credibility with me and the market that is Toronto. This year will be a failure if Montreal and Vancouver both make the play-offs and we don't.



No it doesn't make a season and no one here is saying it does. And if I could be assured a berth to the Champions league and to the World Club Cup without a single win in the league your damn right I would take it. That holds more appeal than playing anyone else in this league.

I'm going to take the potshot made to be aimed completely at Amway and young commercial tournament because if you're trying in any way to insult a tournament and trophy that was made and organized, FOUNDED by true supporters that were here before most of us that would be the height of ignorance and ingratitude.

[Ageroo]

does anyone have footage from the montreal stuff that went down last night? im curious to see it again. Pete i know that one woman who was standing beside you near the go train tunnel said she had it all on camera. but was curious if anyone has uploaded it or something.

around 6:25 mark...

waxrfYolK_k

[Richard]

To the Victors go the spoils courtesy of Cake Boss...

https://p.twimg.com/AsiFZwBCAAAby64.jpg (http://twitter.com/rachelbonnetta/status/200556860846243840/photo/1/large)

http://www.dynintel.com/pics/drooling-homer.gif

[Furtado91]

around 6:25 mark...

waxrfYolK_k

Thanks a lot bud. That was crazy.

[TFC Cityboy]

wasn't there last night- a few reasons, but needed a break from the negative energy I've been bringing the past few games...
Anyway...I am now accepting offers for me to stay away all season if we play like that and win!

[Cashcleaner]

Beating Montreal does not make a season. Beating Vancouver next round does not make a season. This team needs to make the play-offs to gain any credibility with me and the market that is Toronto. This year will be a failure if Montreal and Vancouver both make the play-offs and we don't.

[edited]

Perhaps...

But you know what? Right now, that's not something we should worry too much about. Instead, let's take pride in the fact that even when we've got a record of 0-8 in the league, we can still scrap together a squad good enough to spank the Impact's collective asses on our home pitch.

I don't know if we've turned the tide here with this win, and I totally agree that we're far from out of the woods. But the team deserves credit for pulling off a much-needed win last night.

[GuelphStorm2007]

HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE TURNAROUND WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR BUT IT IS TO EARLY TO TELL . If they pull of a similiar performance against DCU next week than I will be happy.

[RedRum]

Random thoughts on the game and the thread:

Great win. The hustle and heart the boys showed was admirable and we have seen a few fleeting images of that this year. Personnel-wise I don't think we are far off being a decent team. The thought of Montreal advancing sickened me and this is at least one positive we can take from this year, if nothing else.

The game did nothing to convince me Winter is a competent coach, quite the opposite in fact. By all accounts the team meeting was emotional with the players fed up with playing his system. Reading between the lines I think mutiny was in the air, and Winter had no choice but to concede and let the players play how they wanted to. They had a point to prove and it showed. This win is not Winters' doing. My vote would be Frings as player/coach until a suitable replacement is found.

Red should be rescinded. Replay shows the foul on Ecks put him off stride and unless he has an extra eyeball in his temple I missed before, there is no way he sees the challenge coming with the clarity needed to intentionally stomp on him. No foul on Ecks and the only possible card getting handed out goes to the alphabet soup Impact player.

Marsch attempting to bypass De Klerk to shake Winters' hand post game was pure lulz. When the coaching staff gets fired I want BDK to stay on as waterboy.

Result panned out but I still think it was dumb to not go for an away goal in mtl. Despite the fact we were playing good I think the vast majority of us thought we were fucked, up one but down to 10 men so early. Any draw and we were toast. You could replay that game 10 times and Montreal would advance 8.

UM02... same old same old from them. Last time they were here it was spit coming down from the top of 104, now it's chairs and flares. And subsequent twitter whining.

[Auzzy]

I highly doubt Ecks will get that card recinded. And since this is ACC, it would be up to CSA to review. I think the red card is harsh but there is enough benefit of doubt on Gantar's side. It's not 100% clear

Even when the referee didn't agree with himself? He called a foul in favour of Ecks, and a red card against Ecks, for the same exact play.

[Canary10]

Even when the referee didn't agree with himself? He called a foul in favour of Ecks, and a red card against Ecks, for the same exact play.

The linesman didn't call anything did he? From where I was it didn't look like it.

If he deliberately came down in a stomp he could win a foul while getting red carded on the same play. I can't say I can see that in the replays on the game in 6, but some of the media people who had access to other angles said it looked like he came down on him deliberately.

[trane]

Perhaps...

But you know what? Right now, that's not something we should worry too much about. Instead, let's take pride in the fact that even when we've got a record of 0-8 in the league, we can still scrap together a squad good enough to spank the Impact's collective asses on our home pitch.

I don't know if we've turned the tide here with this win, and I totally agree that we're far from out of the woods. But the team deserves credit for pulling off a much-needed win last night.

Funny, but the way I see it, is that it is a shame that with a side that is this good we are 0-8. We did not scrap a squad together, this is our squad, with a few people missing, and we did great. SO WHY ARE WE 0-8?

We have a good players, they fight for each other, and they get wins when they are needed. And yet we are 0-8. We are letting an opportunity go to waste.

[Yohan]

Even when the referee didn't agree with himself? He called a foul in favour of Ecks, and a red card against Ecks, for the same exact play.

yeah I know. but the replay will likely focus on whether there was stomping motion on Ecks part, not just how retarded Gantar is (that guy makes Toledo looks mild mannered by comparison)

[T-boy]

The only way the ref could have given Ecks a red in this incident is if the ref thought that there was a foul ON Ecks, then Ecks retaliated and stamped on the Montreal player. BUT, that wasn't the case - the foul was given for the challenge which actually Ecks got the card for. It didn't make any sense.

I assume that the ref "thought" Ecks made the mark on the Montreal players leg AFTER the original incident had happened. Otherwise, why would Ecks be sent off AND win the free kick?

It was a baffeling piece of refereeing!

[trane]

^ That's what it was the ref thought that Ecks, stomped on the foot of the Montreal player, after the tackle. The Montreal player showed the ref the mark, and then ecks was carded.

[Oldtimer]

The game did nothing to convince me Winter is a competent coach, quite the opposite in fact. By all accounts the team meeting was emotional with the players fed up with playing his system. Reading between the lines I think mutiny was in the air, and Winter had no choice but to concede and let the players play how they wanted to. They had a point to prove and it showed. This win is not Winters' doing.

Not a Winter fan myself, but that's pretty hefty reading between the lines to say a mutiny was brewing. It could be true, but another possible interpretation is that Winter realized that the hard-line "system" wasn't winning now (or more likely Anselmi told him to smarten up and get some wins now), so he asked the players for their input. Winter hasn't shown great man-management so far, it's clear he doesn't instinctively know what to do, and he's trying to learn on the job. Like Roogsy has pointed out before, ML$E has poured money into DPs and the academy, but hired a rookie coach. We deserved more.

[Canary10]

Where are people getting that he didn't "play the system." He was finally back on the system last night after a few games trying to play negative football. What do you think Jonhson was criticizing him for? Certainly not for playing attacking football. He was criticizing the five man backline we played against Montreal and again against DC United (even DeRo got in on it too, wondering where the vaunted TFC 4-3-3 had gone). I'm sure the team meeting was the players saying why the hell are we playing this kind of football. Have faith in your system and play it. If you're going to get fired, you might as well go out playing your game, not Preki's.

[trane]

^ What in the 8 league games makes you think that the players have faith in the system played by Winter?

[Batman]

"Marsch attempting to bypass De Klerk to shake Winters' hand post game was pure lulz. When the coaching staff gets fired I want BDK to stay on as waterboy."

Is that what got De Klerk so fired up?

[ExiledRed]

Still too busy....

scanned the thread a bit..

Are people really calling craiger out as a poor supporter? Are you fucking serious?