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Canuck82
11-30-2011, 11:36 AM
The 2011 Re-Entry Process, first initiated in 2010 as part of the latest collective barganining agreement, gets going next Monday, December 5, with the Stage 1 Draft. Stage 2 will take place on Monday, December 12.
On Wednesday, MLS released the names of the players available for selection by the clubs.
Clubs must exercise the option for, or extend a Bona Fide Offer to, all players selected in Stage 1. Players that were out of contract may either accept or reject the Bona Fide Offer. Should a player reject the offer, the drafting club will hold the right of first refusal for that player in MLS. Players with option years left on their contract will automatically be added to the drafting club’s roster.
Click HERE (http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/2011-re-entry-process-rules-and-timeline)for full rules and details of the Re-Entry Process. Click HERE (http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/re-entry-process-selection-order) for Re-Entry Process selection order.
2011 Club Player Name Position Yrs of MLS Experience Contract Status
Chicago Fire Conway, Jon GK 12 OPTION DECLINED
Chicago Fire Dufty, Alec GK 3 OPTION DECLINED
Chicago Fire Husidic, Baggio M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Boyens, Andrew D 5 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Chijindu, Chukwudi M/F 3 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Elliott, Simon M 9 OUT OF CONTRACT
Chivas USA Jazic, Ante D 6 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Thornton, Zach GK 16 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Trujillo, Mariano M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Colorado Rapids Holody, Mike D 3 OPTION DECLINED
Columbus Crew Burns, Kevin M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Columbus Crew Cunningham, Jeff F 14 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Barklage, Brandon M 3 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Burch, Marc D 6 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Cronin, Steve GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United McTavish, Devon D 6 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Morsink, Kurt M 5 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Ngwenya, Joseph F 6 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Quaranta, Santino M 11 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Simms, Clyde M 7 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Zayner, Jed D 6 OPTION DECLINED
FC Dallas Galindo Maykel D 5 OPTION DECLINED
FC Dallas Santos, Maicon M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Boswell, Bobby D 7 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Freeman, Hunter D 6 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Garey, Jason F 6 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Robinson, Eddie D 11 OPTION DECLINED
LA Galaxy Cristman, Adam M 5 OPTION DECLINED
LA Galaxy Hejduk, Frankie D 9 OPTION DECLINED
LA Galaxy Robinson, Dasan D 5 OPTION DECLINED
League Pool Goalkeeper Sharpe, Chris GK 5 OPTION DECLINED
Montreal Impact Pore, Ryan M 5 OPTION DECLINED
Montreal Impact Sutton, Greg GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Cochrane, Ryan D 8 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Dube, Kheli F 4 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Phelan, Pat M 4 OPTION DECLINED
New York Red Bulls Albright, Chris D 13 OPTION DECLINED
New York Red Bulls Coundoul, Bouna GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
New York Red Bulls Mendes, Carlos D 7 O PTION DECLINED
Philadelphia Union Harrison, Chase GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Philadelphia Union Miglioranzi, Stefani M 6 OPTION DECLINED
Portland Timbers Brown, Adin GK 6 OPTION DECLINED
Portland Timbers Lopez, Rodrigo M 4OPTION DECLINED
Portland Timbers Lowry, Peter M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Alexandre, Jean M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Alvarez, Arturo M/F 9 OUT OF CONTRACT
Real Salt Lake Wagner, Blake M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Gonzalez, Nelson M/F 3 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake McKenzie, Rauwshan D 4 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Williams, Andy M 14 OUT OF CONTRACT
San Jose Earthquakes Convey, Bobby D/M 8 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Leitch, Chris D 10 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Moreira, Andre Luiz M 3 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Peterson, Jacob M 6 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Sealy, Scott F 7 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Weber, Andrew GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Boss, Terry GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Graham, Taylor D 7 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Jaqua, Nate F 9 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Noonan, Pat F 9 OPTION DECLINED
Sporting Kansas City Sassano, Luke M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Sporting Kansas City Thomas, Shavar D 9 OPTION DECLINED
Toronto FC Borman, Danleigh D 4 OUT OF CONTRACT
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Cannon, Joe GK 14 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Janicki, Greg D 3 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Leathers, Jonathan D 4OUT OF CONTRACT
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Nolly, Jay GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Thorrington, John M 7 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Vagenas, Peter M 12 OPTION DECLINED

ginkster88
11-30-2011, 11:37 AM
That list is easy to read.

ArmenJBX
11-30-2011, 11:40 AM
Jacob Peterson!

Detroit_TFC
11-30-2011, 11:44 AM
Definitely some good players on that list but are there any bargains? That's harder to say.

Canuck82
11-30-2011, 11:49 AM
List is fixed and is now a little easier to read

Nuvinho
11-30-2011, 11:57 AM
Give me Bobby Boswell

brandrews
11-30-2011, 11:58 AM
bobby boswell anyone? i'm surprised to see him available; high price tag i suppose.

Canary10
11-30-2011, 11:58 AM
So as I understand it, teams can still make a play for these players in a trade before the re-entry draft? Should Toronto be going after Boswell?

ManUtd4ever
11-30-2011, 12:01 PM
The 2011 Re-Entry Process, first initiated in 2010 as part of the latest collective barganining agreement, gets going next Monday, December 5, with the Stage 1 Draft. Stage 2 will take place on Monday, December 12.
On Wednesday, MLS released the names of the players available for selection by the clubs.
Clubs must exercise the option for, or extend a Bona Fide Offer to, all players selected in Stage 1. Players that were out of contract may either accept or reject the Bona Fide Offer. Should a player reject the offer, the drafting club will hold the right of first refusal for that player in MLS. Players with option years left on their contract will automatically be added to the drafting club’s roster.
Click HERE (http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/2011-re-entry-process-rules-and-timeline)for full rules and details of the Re-Entry Process. Click HERE (http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/re-entry-process-selection-order) for Re-Entry Process selection order.
2011 Club Player Name Position Yrs of MLS Experience Contract Status
Chicago Fire Conway, Jon GK 12 OPTION DECLINED
Chicago Fire Dufty, Alec GK 3 OPTION DECLINED
Chicago Fire Husidic, Baggio M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Boyens, Andrew D 5 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Chijindu, Chukwudi M/F 3 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Elliott, Simon M 9 OUT OF CONTRACT
Chivas USA Jazic, Ante D 6 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Thornton, Zach GK 16 OPTION DECLINED
Chivas USA Trujillo, Mariano M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Colorado Rapids Holody, Mike D 3 OPTION DECLINED
Columbus Crew Burns, Kevin M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Columbus Crew Cunningham, Jeff F 14 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Barklage, Brandon M 3 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Burch, Marc D 6 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Cronin, Steve GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United McTavish, Devon D 6 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Morsink, Kurt M 5 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Ngwenya, Joseph F 6 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Quaranta, Santino M 11 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Simms, Clyde M 7 OPTION DECLINED
D.C. United Zayner, Jed D 6 OPTION DECLINED
FC Dallas Galindo Maykel D 5 OPTION DECLINED
FC Dallas Santos, Maicon M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Boswell, Bobby D 7 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Freeman, Hunter D 6 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Garey, Jason F 6 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Robinson, Eddie D 11 OPTION DECLINED
LA Galaxy Cristman, Adam M 5 OPTION DECLINED
LA Galaxy Hejduk, Frankie D 9 OPTION DECLINED
LA Galaxy Robinson, Dasan D 5 OPTION DECLINED
League Pool Goalkeeper Sharpe, Chris GK 5 OPTION DECLINED
Montreal Impact Pore, Ryan M 5 OPTION DECLINED
Montreal Impact Sutton, Greg GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Cochrane, Ryan D 8 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Dube, Kheli F 4 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Phelan, Pat M 4 OPTION DECLINED
New York Red Bulls Albright, Chris D 13 OPTION DECLINED
New York Red Bulls Coundoul, Bouna GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
New York Red Bulls Mendes, Carlos D 7 O PTION DECLINED
Philadelphia Union Harrison, Chase GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Philadelphia Union Miglioranzi, Stefani M 6 OPTION DECLINED
Portland Timbers Brown, Adin GK 6 OPTION DECLINED
Portland Timbers Lopez, Rodrigo M 4OPTION DECLINED
Portland Timbers Lowry, Peter M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Alexandre, Jean M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Alvarez, Arturo M/F 9 OUT OF CONTRACT
Real Salt Lake Wagner, Blake M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Gonzalez, Nelson M/F 3 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake McKenzie, Rauwshan D 4 OPTION DECLINED
Real Salt Lake Williams, Andy M 14 OUT OF CONTRACT
San Jose Earthquakes Convey, Bobby D/M 8 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Leitch, Chris D 10 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Moreira, Andre Luiz M 3 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Peterson, Jacob M 6 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Sealy, Scott F 7 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Weber, Andrew GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Boss, Terry GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Graham, Taylor D 7 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Jaqua, Nate F 9 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Noonan, Pat F 9 OPTION DECLINED
Sporting Kansas City Sassano, Luke M 4 OPTION DECLINED
Sporting Kansas City Thomas, Shavar D 9 OPTION DECLINED
Toronto FC Borman, Danleigh D 4 OUT OF CONTRACT
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Cannon, Joe GK 14 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Janicki, Greg D 3 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Leathers, Jonathan D 4OUT OF CONTRACT
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Nolly, Jay GK 4 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Thorrington, John M 7 OPTION DECLINED
Vancouver Whitecaps FC Vagenas, Peter M 12 OPTION DECLINED

I'm not sure of the salary implications, but some of these players are worth consideration...

West220Side
11-30-2011, 12:02 PM
Bobby Boswell would solve our centerback problem I think. I would take Bobby Boswell in a heartbeat.

Bobby Boswell, please. However at second glance Convey sticks out.. I like them both.

Imagine a pairing of Bobby Boswell & Adrian Cann? This seems like a pretty good defensive pairing.

I'm a strong believer in Iro's quality but I stand beside the fact that without a faster ceterback beside him, he's going to get beat and we're going to get scored on. Id rather take Boswell & Cann then.. Cann & Iro, or Williams & Iro.

Oldtimer
11-30-2011, 12:09 PM
Conway would be a good backup if TFC trades Frei. Or even Greg Sutton at more reasonable wages.

Convey's going to go by the second round, for sure. TFC has the third pick, so there is a chance.

Jacob Peterson, despite Armen's appreciation for his talents, I doubt he's coming back.

West220Side
11-30-2011, 12:14 PM
Id prefer Boswell over Convey. Conveys wage demands might not be acceptable. Boswell would provide the position we need good players at, Convey would just be extra.

Kaz
11-30-2011, 12:15 PM
The Only issue with Boswell is does he still want to play with Euro Money? Or is he going to play with MLS money?

though I think he may be a decent addition, he an Cann in the back as your starters (assuming Cann is up for it) could be good.

Canuck82
11-30-2011, 12:18 PM
Jazic made $115k last season, Quaranta was $115k as well, Boswell at $210k, Hejduk at $96k, Alvarez at $192k and Convey at $314k

Yohan
11-30-2011, 12:20 PM
Hejduk is too old, plus he's a SoCal boy.

Canuck82
11-30-2011, 12:21 PM
Re-Entry Process Player Eligibility





Available to all teams in the Re-Entry Process will be:

Players who are at least 23-years-old and have a minimum of three years of MLS experience whose options were not exercised by their clubs (available at option salary for 2012).
Players who are at least 25-years-old with a minimum of four years of MLS experience who are out of contract and whose club does not offer them a contract at their previous salary (available at 2011 salary).
Players who are at least 30-years-old with a minimum of eight years of MLS experience who are out of contract and whose club does not wish to re-sign them (available for at least 105% of their 2011 salary).
Players who are not selected in the Stage 1 draft will be made available for the Stage 2 draft on December 12. Clubs selecting players in Stage 2 will negotiate a new salary with the player.

Players who remain unselected after Stage 2 will be available to any MLS club on a first come, first served basis.

Players with expiring contracts or options that are not renewed by their clubs who do not meet the age and service requirements necessary to be included in the Re-Entry Draft were part of the Waiver Draft on Nov. 23.

ensco
11-30-2011, 12:36 PM
This is the thing they did to prevent a Serioux type situation, correct? So that teams don't let players go out of contract but still keep their rights?

If it is, it isn't true free agency, I believe these players next have to go through something like the discovery allocation process. There's no way Boswell would last until the 4th slot of that, imho.

Nuvinho
11-30-2011, 12:36 PM
$210K for Boswell - not bad, but not good. If there are other options outside of MLS that are cheaper, then go for it, else Boswell would be a good pickup.

Nuvinho
11-30-2011, 12:42 PM
What about Nate Jacqua as a backup to DK?

ensco
11-30-2011, 12:45 PM
What about Nate Jacqua as a backup to DK?

Mo drafted him in 2007. He wouldn't come here.
Although I suppose it's possible that he just wouldn't play for Mo.

Yohan
11-30-2011, 12:47 PM
What about Nate Jacqua as a backup to DK?
has the tools to be a target man striker, but terrible finishing.

Fort York Redcoat
11-30-2011, 01:16 PM
For giggles. Miss anybody?

Chivas USA Boyens, Andrew D 5 OPTION DECLINED
Columbus Crew Cunningham, Jeff F 14 OPTION DECLINED
FC Dallas Santos, Maicon M 3 OPTION DECLINED
Houston Dynamo Freeman, Hunter D 6 OPTION DECLINED
Montreal Impact Sutton, Greg GK 7 OPTION DECLINED
New England Revolution Phelan, Pat M 4 OPTION DECLINED
San Jose Earthquakes Peterson, Jacob M 6 OPTION DECLINED
Seattle Sounders FC Jaqua, Nate F 9 OPTION DECLINED



Chivas USA Jazic, Ante D 6 OPTION DECLINED

Yes please.

reggie
11-30-2011, 01:31 PM
Jacob Peterson!

hey jacob...tweet this...bitch:scarf:
hope yr comfort level is better now in the us on the unemployment line.

ManUtd4ever
11-30-2011, 01:42 PM
Jazic made $115k last season, Quaranta was $115k as well, Boswell at $210k, Hejduk at $96k, Alvarez at $192k and Convey at $314k

Thanks, that adds more perspective. Other than Convey, I think the others still might be worth a look.

Detroit_TFC
11-30-2011, 01:42 PM
Not to split hairs (but I will anyway), Hunter Freeman was a short term deal prior to leaving the league for Europe. Spent 2 years at IK Start then came back. Houston bought his return rights from NYRB. We never had his permanent rights. I liked him in 2008 and I liked him in Houston. He is a bit on the pricey side though - $150K.

rocker
11-30-2011, 01:42 PM
So Santos is let go by Dallas... wow, what a shitty trade that was for them. He barely did anything for Dallas, meanwhile Avila was a bright spot for TFC. Avila could be a longtime contributor to TFC and Santos is gone from Dallas after half a season.

mowe
11-30-2011, 01:43 PM
We have the third pick in the re-entry draft, only Vancouver and New England pick before us. I think we should definitely pick up Boswell, he would be a big upgrade at centre back. He is fairly expensive at $210k last season, and we would get him at his 2012 option value (likely higher). But he's also a proven MLS CB and those are hard to find. Since CB is such a huge need for us I'm fine with overpaying a little to get a guy who would fit.

ag futbol
11-30-2011, 01:43 PM
Jazic made $115k last season, Quaranta was $115k as well, Boswell at $210k, Hejduk at $96k, Alvarez at $192k and Convey at $314k
Hejduk is majorly old, I would pass on him although he keeps in good shape.

Most of those guys, I would take a flyer on as long as we reduce their salary, with the exception of Quaranta who I wouldn't be opposed to paying the full amount.

keem-o-sabi
11-30-2011, 01:50 PM
Boswell and Robinson would be good pick-ups. Convey, maybe quaranta as well. There are some decent names there.

Oldtimer
11-30-2011, 02:02 PM
So Santos is let go by Dallas... wow, what a shitty trade that was for them. He barely did anything for Dallas, meanwhile Avila was a bright spot for TFC. Avila could be a longtime contributor to TFC and Santos is gone from Dallas after half a season.

Nice to see someone competent (Mariner) doing the trades. Under Mo, it was almost always TFC with the short end of the stick.

Canary10
11-30-2011, 02:08 PM
I think one of the big differences is our current management team actually knows what it needs!

KGH
11-30-2011, 02:25 PM
What's curious is that Cann wasn't on that list. He's pretty expense to have as a back up. I wonder what the rules are about guys on IR. Or does it mean we picked up his option?

Yohan
11-30-2011, 02:36 PM
I don't think Cann met the requirement for re entry draft. min 3 years in MLS

West220Side
11-30-2011, 02:42 PM
Frie/Kocic
Morgan - Boswell - Cann - Eckersley
Dunfield/deGuzman - Frings
Avila/NewAM
Plata - Koevermans - Soolsma

Looks good to me?

KGH
11-30-2011, 02:46 PM
I don't think Cann met the requirement for re entry draft. min 3 years in MLS

Ahhhh.

Canary10
11-30-2011, 02:49 PM
Frie/Kocic

Morgan - Boswell - Cann - Eckersley
Dunfield/deGuzman - Frings
Avila/NewAM
Plata - Koevermans - Soolsma

Looks good to me?

Don't know how you guys don't see how weak we are on the right wing. I like Soolsma, but starter, no way. We need another Plata-esque player on the right. Someone who can unlock defenses, but hopefully a better sense of when to lay the ball off too.

KGH
11-30-2011, 03:04 PM
Frie/Kocic



Morgan - Boswell - Cann - Eckersley
Dunfield/deGuzman - Frings
Avila/NewAM
Plata - Koevermans - Soolsma

Looks good to me?

NO!!

Folks...higher expectations. The above is a marginal playoff team at best.

CB - with the system we have guys like Cann are exposed. He is a backup MLS player at best now coming off an ACL injury. We need 1 stud CB who is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Then Williams/Iro/Harden/Henry play the other.

LB/RB - I like where we are here. I'm expecting big things from Morgan next year and fingers crossed that we pick up ecks.

Mids - Defensive Mids we're fine. Frings / JDG / Stinson work for me. But you're right we need an aggresive, attacking, creative mid who can link you our front 3. Avila could be this but I think we need something else. Plus we won't have Avila if we move forward in CCL.

Forwards - We're desperate for something on the right side. Hopefully Soolsma does a bunch of speedwork over the break or Johnson improves. I'm not holding my breath about Plata. Plus koev is getting old and gets gassed before the end of the game. We'll need someone to sub on most games or play when he takes a game off every couple.

Realistically I don't think we're going to be able to afford to buy both Ecks and Plata. It'll likely only be one of the two.

brad
11-30-2011, 03:08 PM
Don't know how you guys don't see how weak we are on the right wing. I like Soolsma, but starter, no way. We need another Plata-esque player on the right. Someone who can unlock defenses, but hopefully a better sense of when to lay the ball off too.

Hopefully Lindsey can fill that role, but time will tell.

Dbl_D
11-30-2011, 03:13 PM
how about that Cunningham guy isn't he like the top all time MLS scorer... ;)

Canary10
11-30-2011, 03:14 PM
Hopefully Lindsey can fill that role, but time will tell.

Yeah that would be huge. At his age and coming off injury I doubt he'll be able to step in though.

brad
11-30-2011, 03:16 PM
Looks like we can write Boswell off...



ChrisCanetti (http://twitter.com/#%21/ChrisCanetti) Chris Canetti



Rumors and speculation of Bobby Boswell's departure from Dynamo are just that.

The source is the Dynamo's president. Must have a backroom deal in place.

ManUtd4ever
11-30-2011, 03:28 PM
^^ Makes sense. Losing Boswell for nothing after the Brian Ching debacle would be PR suicide for Houston.

ArmenJBX
11-30-2011, 03:39 PM
NO!!

Folks...higher expectations. The above is a marginal playoff team at best.

CB - with the system we have guys like Cann are exposed. He is a backup MLS player at best now coming off an ACL injury. We need 1 stud CB who is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Then Williams/Iro/Harden/Henry play the other.

LB/RB - I like where we are here. I'm expecting big things from Morgan next year and fingers crossed that we pick up ecks.

Mids - Defensive Mids we're fine. Frings / JDG / Stinson work for me. But you're right we need an aggresive, attacking, creative mid who can link you our front 3. Avila could be this but I think we need something else. Plus we won't have Avila if we move forward in CCL.

Forwards - We're desperate for something on the right side. Hopefully Soolsma does a bunch of speedwork over the break or Johnson improves. I'm not holding my breath about Plata. Plus koev is getting old and gets gassed before the end of the game. We'll need someone to sub on most games or play when he takes a game off every couple.

Realistically I don't think we're going to be able to afford to buy both Ecks and Plata. It'll likely only be one of the two.

I think we will - CCL Roster's can be resubmitted now, no?

KGH
11-30-2011, 03:43 PM
I think we will - CCL Roster's can be resubmitted now, no?

Nope. See 5.4 below

5 Player Eligibility
5.1 Teams will be able to inscribe a Roster List consisting of a maximum of 30 players (30-Player List) no later than seven (7) days prior to their first match, at the start of the CCL season for the purposes of participating in Phase 1: Preliminary Round and Phase 2: Group Stage. If the initial and succeeding Roster Lists do not include the maximum 30 players, such Roster list may be increased in a manner consistent with these Regulations, including 5.3 and 5.4 below, provided the maximum of 30 players is not exceeded.

5.2 Teams will be able to inscribe a second Roster List consisting of a maximum of 30 players (30-player List) no later than seven (7) days prior to their first match, at the start of the Phase 3: the Championship Stage, for the purposes of participating in the remainder of the CCL season. If the initial and succeeding Roster Lists do not include the maximum 30 players, such Roster list may be increased in a manner consistent with these Regulations, including 5.3 and 5.4 below, provided the maximum of 30 players is not exceeded.

5.3 After submission of the initial 30-player list as outlined in 5.1 and
5.2 above, any additions to the 30-player list must be submitted no later than 48 hours prior to kickoff of the relevant match.

5.4 Once having been properly inscribed on a Roster List for one Team, in any Phase, a player may not be inscribed on the Roster List for any other Team in the CCL in the same season of competition, in any Phase.

http://www.concacaf.com/staticFiles/7b/72/0,,12813~160379,00.pdf

ArmenJBX
11-30-2011, 03:44 PM
I stand corrected :/

That sucks, Avila looked good during regular season games

West220Side
11-30-2011, 03:54 PM
Stats for Toronto FC's wingers -

Soolsma - Three Goals, Five Assists - 1578 Minutes (MLS)
Plata - Three Goals, Five Assists - 1753 Minutes (MLS)
Johnson - Three Goals, Two Assists - 993 Minutes (MLS)
Marosevic - Two Goals, Zero Assists - 410 Minutes (MLS)
Makubuya - Zero Goals, Zero Assists - 45 Minutes (MLS)

Seems to me like Soolsma has been creating at the same pace as Plata except with a different style, and in less time.

Soolsma doesn't always get in a good cross all the time, but then all of a sudden he makes a move down the wing and crosses one in and Koevermans gets his head on it.

Platas flare is what attracts people to him I think, and why most people would rate Plata above Soolsma. Plata is a small, fast, speedy winger who creates, and excites. Meanwhile Soolsma is just your basic MLS Winger who goes unnoticed until he makes that right play.

Canary10
11-30-2011, 04:00 PM
Plata also scored a bunch of Champions League goals. I like Soolsma as I said, but so much play comes through the wings in the 4-3-3. Plata makes things happen. If we had that on both sides, we'd be so much more difficult to defend against.

jaahuuu
11-30-2011, 04:33 PM
So Santos is let go by Dallas... wow, what a shitty trade that was for them. He barely did anything for Dallas, meanwhile Avila was a bright spot for TFC. Avila could be a longtime contributor to TFC and Santos is gone from Dallas after half a season.
Meanwhile on the other side of things...

Dero --> Borman, Tchani --> Borman, Griffit, Iro --> Option Declined, Waived, Iro

Fort York Redcoat
11-30-2011, 04:36 PM
Meanwhile on the other side of things...

Dero --> Borman, Tchani --> Borman, Griffit, Iro --> Option Declined, Waived, Iro

True. But I'm sure they tried at first to straight up trade for Iro but DeRo didn't want to go to Columbus....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Pookie
11-30-2011, 04:37 PM
Meanwhile on the other side of things...

Dero --> Borman, Tchani --> Borman, Griffit, Iro --> Option Declined, Waived, Iro

1st round pick, cap space for Danny K and Frings and no headaches >DeRo

Pookie
11-30-2011, 04:39 PM
Am i reading too much into this?

If this list includes players "out of contract" and Iro, Avila, Plata and Eckersley were all players with contracts expiring at the end of the season... Does that mean all have re-signed?

Yohan
11-30-2011, 04:43 PM
Plata and Eck don't qualify. Avila and Iro would be

shwade
11-30-2011, 04:45 PM
Am i reading too much into this?

If this list includes players "out of contract" and Iro, Avila, Plata and Eckersley were all players with contracts expiring at the end of the season... Does that mean all have re-signed?

Ecks and plata haven't been in MLS 3 years do they don't qualify, not sure about Avila and Iro though.

ArmenJBX
11-30-2011, 04:55 PM
I think, by protecting Iro and Avila, Winter's made it pretty clear they're in his plans. Whether they've signed or not, I'm not sure, but I'll ask around and see what pops up

rocker
11-30-2011, 05:12 PM
so teams have until the re-entry draft to resign players designated for the draft... OK.

So reading off the Canetti's tweet regarding Boswell, what does that mean? Why wouldn't he already have renegotiated with Boswell, if he means Boswell will be coming back? I don't get it.

ManUtd4ever
11-30-2011, 06:09 PM
Meanwhile on the other side of things...

Dero --> Borman, Tchani --> Borman, Griffit, Iro --> Option Declined, Waived, Iro

TFC is essentially left with Iro and NY's 1st round pick in this year's draft in exchange for DeRo. Not an equitable return to say the least.

If Iro can regain his form next season as a reliable part of the rotation on the backline, and Mariner can steal a good player in the draft, TFC might be able to salvage something from the DeRo fiasco.

ensco
11-30-2011, 06:42 PM
I would take Santos back at the right price. We need a backup striker.

Although Winter seemed to see him as an AM or a shadow striker only.

Yohan
11-30-2011, 06:44 PM
I would take Santos back at the right price. We need a backup striker.

Although Winter seemed to see him as an AM or a shadow striker only.
lazy guy who can't hold the ball. sounds like perfect fit for TFC!

T-boy
11-30-2011, 07:26 PM
lazy guy who can't hold the ball. sounds like perfect fit for TFC!

I thought Santos was good in 2010 - Preki definitely got something out of him, and he looked dangerous up front. I'd say he was a big crowd favourite in 2010. It was only this last season that Santos started looking bad - I just don't think he got along with Winter at all.

It's funny how some players look fantastic under one manager, then terrible under another!

I think it just goes to show that when you sign a player from another team, and their fans think he's a terrible player, you can't really judge the signing on their opinion. Sometimes players look totally different under new management! Santos just looked terrible under Winter, but was pretty good under Preki!

Auzzy
11-30-2011, 07:29 PM
It's funny how some players look fantastic under one manager, then terrible under another!

I think it just goes to show that when you sign a player from another team, and their fans think he's a terrible player, you can't really judge the signing on their opinion. Sometimes players look totally different under new management! Santos just looked terrible under Winter, but was pretty good under Preki!

Any chance that might apply to Pablo Vitti? :D

I didn't think that Santos looked terrible this year, but definitely not a very good fit for "the system." Also, he was here when TFC wasn't maintaining possession much, or attacking much, so it was hard for him to look good.

On the MLS TFC 2011 review today, I was reminded that Santos did score a few really nice goals this season.

Brooker
11-30-2011, 07:30 PM
how about that Cunningham guy isn't he like the top all time MLS scorer... ;)

He works hard I hear. :o

Alonso
11-30-2011, 07:50 PM
Jacob Peterson!

But he's the bestest player ever?!?

Yohan
11-30-2011, 07:51 PM
I thought Santos was good in 2010 - Preki definitely got something out of him, and he looked dangerous up front. I'd say he was a big crowd favourite in 2010. It was only this last season that Santos started looking bad - I just don't think he got along with Winter at all.

It's funny how some players look fantastic under one manager, then terrible under another!

I think it just goes to show that when you sign a player from another team, and their fans think he's a terrible player, you can't really judge the signing on their opinion. Sometimes players look totally different under new management! Santos just looked terrible under Winter, but was pretty good under Preki!
Santos looked terrible under Hyndman too. funny how he seems to stink whenever he plays for a possession based team

Alonso
11-30-2011, 08:23 PM
I would take Santos back at the right price. We need a backup striker.

Although Winter seemed to see him as an AM or a shadow striker only.

To bad Gordon isn't available. He'd be a perfect back-up to Koevs. To bad we didn't hold on to him I liked what he brought.

ArmenJBX
11-30-2011, 08:29 PM
If I were Maicon or Alan Gordon, I wouldn't want to play for the same manager who traded me away.

TFCRegina
11-30-2011, 08:50 PM
If I were Maicon or Alan Gordon, I wouldn't want to play for the same manager who traded me away.

Depends on what the manager got for him lol! That's if it's me. If I thought my manager swindled the other manager, sure, I wouldn't feel too bad.

Wooster_TFC
11-30-2011, 09:36 PM
so teams have until the re-entry draft to resign players designated for the draft... OK.

So reading off the Canetti's tweet regarding Boswell, what does that mean? Why wouldn't he already have renegotiated with Boswell, if he means Boswell will be coming back? I don't get it.

Might be trying to negotiate a new contract instead of picking up the option. Worst case the day before the reentry draft they pick up the option, no?

T-boy
11-30-2011, 10:09 PM
Any chance that might apply to Pablo Vitti? :D



Using my own opinion against me eh?! :p

Good point sir, very good point!

ChrisLav
12-01-2011, 01:23 AM
Seriously we need to bring in Zach Thornton, the Chivas keeper. He's done things that nobody has ever done at any a TFC game at BMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRUzpHFZ8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRUzpHFZ8k

T-boy
12-01-2011, 09:41 AM
^^^^^

Classic BMO moment, along with squirrel and seat cushions! :D

jloome
12-01-2011, 11:46 PM
Given that we're looking for depth, there are some real pickups here. A lot depends on our cap space but I'd look at

Husidic, Baggio M
Quaranta, Santino M
Boswell, Bobby D
Alvarez, Arturo M/F
Leitch, Chris D
Jaqua, Nate

Jaqua would be a competent backup to Koevermans. He's suspect with his feet but decent with his head, strong, good work ethic. Not sure what the knock is on Quaranta, I thought he was the big comeback player at DC. Consistency, maybe?

How old is Boswell now, because he's a real backline leader.

Alvarez would fit our system, and Husidic would b e a good backup in the hole. Not sure why I remember Leitch being any good, which means it may be that it was just against one of our anemic offerings.

Whoop
12-01-2011, 11:48 PM
Bobby Boswell re-signed with Houston.

http://www.chron.com/sports/dynamo/article/Dynamo-re-sign-center-back-Boswell-2338491.php

Yohan
12-01-2011, 11:54 PM
Given that we're looking for depth, there are some real pickups here. A lot depends on our cap space but I'd look at

Husidic, Baggio M
Quaranta, Santino M
Boswell, Bobby D
Alvarez, Arturo M/F
Leitch, Chris D
Jaqua, Nate

Jaqua would be a competent backup to Koevermans. He's suspect with his feet but decent with his head, strong, good work ethic. Not sure what the knock is on Quaranta, I thought he was the big comeback player at DC. Consistency, maybe?

How old is Boswell now, because he's a real backline leader.

Alvarez would fit our system, and Husidic would b e a good backup in the hole. Not sure why I remember Leitch being any good, which means it may be that it was just against one of our anemic offerings.Quaranta had personal issues

jloome
12-01-2011, 11:56 PM
Quaranta had personal issues

Well, yeah, but he conquered them quite publicly, as far as I know. His alcoholism didn't relapse in anyway did it?

Yohan
12-01-2011, 11:57 PM
Well, yeah, but he conquered them quite publicly, as far as I know. His alcoholism didn't relapse in anyway did it?
I don't know. certainly something has been affecting him because last two years, he hasn't been very good

Ossington Mental Youth
12-02-2011, 12:01 AM
im bummed about boswell, but not surprised

Yohan
12-02-2011, 12:19 AM
im bummed about boswell, but not surprised
apparently signed for 50k less, so for 150k next season. good deal for Houston. they are still stacked on defence. Hainault, Cameron, Boswell and their weakest link is Ashe, with Jermaine Taylor for depth, and maybe Freeman and Robinson returning on less salary

Whoop
12-02-2011, 12:43 AM
Article stated "a one-year deal for about $200,000 with a team option for 2013."

Yohan
12-02-2011, 10:15 AM
Article stated "a one-year deal for about $200,000 with a team option for 2013."
hrm. i misread somewhere then. still a good deal for a legit MLS CB (and a guy I wanted for TFC for years)

Ossington Mental Youth
12-05-2011, 06:39 AM
is Shavar Thomas worth a go?

brad
12-05-2011, 10:22 AM
Quaranta has retired

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/post/santino-quaranta-retires-after-11-mls-seasons/2011/12/04/gIQAjdOxSO_blog.html

Yohan
12-05-2011, 10:27 AM
is Shavar Thomas worth a go?
I thought he looked good playing for Chivas USA, but he couldn't stick with his new teams at Philly and Kansas City which says something. Probably be depth only and I'm not sure if he has a green card

gracos
12-05-2011, 11:02 AM
two quick things, first of all Jay Nolly to Chicago Fire for Chicagos First Natural selection in the 2013 Supplemental draft, and next Chicago have signed Orr Barouch from UANL Tigres

KGH
12-05-2011, 11:14 AM
Players with expiring contracts or options that are not renewed by their clubs who do not meet the age and service requirements necessary to be included in the Re-Entry Draft were part of the Waiver Draft on Nov. 23.

So I guess we've picked up the option on Cann. Maybe this goes to show the character of our front office to stand behind the guy.

Canary10
12-05-2011, 11:21 AM
So I guess we've picked up the option on Cann. Maybe this goes to show the character of our front office to stand behind the guy.

Some other posters were saying Cann doesn't meet the elibiglity for the re-entry draft (hasn't been in the league long enough). So it's still likely his option hasn't been picked up.

Yohan
12-05-2011, 11:26 AM
two quick things, first of all Jay Nolly to Chicago Fire for Chicagos First Natural selection in the 2013 Supplemental draft, and next Chicago have signed Orr Barouch from UANL Tigres
Barouch was on loan to Fire and Fire picked up his option

KGH
12-05-2011, 11:34 AM
Some other posters were saying Cann doesn't meet the elibiglity for the re-entry draft (hasn't been in the league long enough). So it's still likely his option hasn't been picked up.

I've read those and glanced over the line in the re-entry draft that says:

"Players with expiring contracts or options that are not renewed by their clubs who do not meet the age and service requirements necessary to be included in the Re-Entry Draft were part of the Waiver Draft on Nov. 23."

Wouldn't that be exactly where Cann fits in?

brad
12-05-2011, 11:49 AM
I've read those and glanced over the line in the re-entry draft that says:

"Players with expiring contracts or options that are not renewed by their clubs who do not meet the age and service requirements necessary to be included in the Re-Entry Draft were part of the Waiver Draft on Nov. 23."

Wouldn't that be exactly where Cann fits in?

I believe it is 3 years in the league to be eligible, and Cann has 2.

Edit: just re-read your post and realized I answered the wrong thing :-(, yeah - that seems like where Cann would fit.

KGH
12-05-2011, 11:51 AM
iI believe it is 3 years in the league to be eligible, and Cann has 2.

Right. So because of that wouldn't he have been part of the players waived?

Canary10
12-05-2011, 12:13 PM
Looks like Borman is off our books. He was selected by NE in the reentry draft.

Ossington Mental Youth
12-05-2011, 12:17 PM
wheres the list?

Canary10
12-05-2011, 12:18 PM
Borman, Mendes, Alvarez were the only three taken.

Ossington Mental Youth
12-05-2011, 12:18 PM
byyyyy?????

Canary10
12-05-2011, 12:19 PM
Alvarez to Chivas, Mendes to Columbus, Borman to New England.

Sorry, had to dig it up.....

Ossington Mental Youth
12-05-2011, 12:19 PM
its cool, thanks for the info

Canary10
12-05-2011, 12:21 PM
Suprised anyone took Borman.

Yohan
12-05-2011, 12:23 PM
Suprised anyone took Borman.
cheap depth

ouderwien
12-05-2011, 12:54 PM
wheres the list?

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/12/05/alvarez-mendes-borman-selected-re-entry-draft

Canary10
12-05-2011, 01:28 PM
cheap depth

Cheap depth, or just cheap? ;)

Fort York Redcoat
12-05-2011, 01:59 PM
Borman to NE. Meh.

mowe
12-05-2011, 02:47 PM
27 year old LB on a minimum salary with four years of MLS experience. I guess it makes sense a team would pick him up.

PopePouri
12-05-2011, 03:13 PM
27 year old LB on a minimum salary with four years of MLS experience. I guess it makes sense a team would pick him up.

From TFC POV, that spot should go to an academy product.

Couchy81
12-05-2011, 03:19 PM
cheap depth

By depth do you mean the distance his crosses from the wing sail over the net and into the supporters section around row 25?

brad
12-05-2011, 03:44 PM
27 year old LB on a minimum salary with four years of MLS experience. I guess it makes sense a team would pick him up.

Especially one of the cheapest teams in the league.