View Full Version : Frings on loan?
jabbronies
10-28-2011, 07:51 AM
Just saw this on twitter. Can anyone shred some more light?
@bill_ault: Torsten Frings back from Toronto with Werder Bremen until January. Many of their fans will hope it's not just to train.
ACSertL
10-28-2011, 07:54 AM
According to Matt Herrmann of Deutsche Welle sports Frings is only back in Germany to train. I think his source is Bild.
ACSertL
10-28-2011, 07:59 AM
Here's the article:
It is in German mind you.
http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/torsten-frings/zurueck-zu-werder-20685128.bild.html
ManUtd4ever
10-28-2011, 08:01 AM
Good on him for his dedication to maintain his conditioning throughout the off season.
Auzzy
10-28-2011, 08:03 AM
Here's the article:
It is in German mind you.
http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/torsten-frings/zurueck-zu-werder-20685128.bild.html
Yup, as mentioned, it's just to train. And it's not definite yet -- discussed but not yet decided with the Werder coach. One thing is, they don't want it to become a distraction for the team.
__wowza
10-28-2011, 08:12 AM
i dont know german, but im sure the article doesnt mention him diving under pooltables..
http://files.stv.tv/img/articles/217434-toronto-unaware-of-de-rosarios-celtic-trial-410x230.jpg
Carts
10-28-2011, 08:17 AM
This isn't a huge surprise really - and a good thing all around I think...
He'll be in Germany with his family (extended family included) for the holidays which is good for him, and training with a high level club is good for us...
Carts...
ensco
10-28-2011, 08:30 AM
Puts an interesting tint on the "why did he rush back to Germany" discussion.
Canary10
10-28-2011, 08:40 AM
They want him as a coach at some point, so makes sense they'd keep the relationship strong by offering that.
jabbronies
10-28-2011, 08:41 AM
Puts an interesting tint on the "why did he rush back to Germany" discussion.
I don't usually think this about older DP's, but I wonder how much he was actually challenged this season?
Ultra & Proud
10-28-2011, 08:42 AM
Puts an interesting tint on the "why did he rush back to Germany" discussion.
The only tint to it is that for the first time in his professional footballing career he had to play (far) away from his family. Who wouldn't want to get back ASAP to see them.
http://www.germanyfinance.cn/pic/gif/1215019450.jpg
denime
10-28-2011, 08:54 AM
Puts an interesting tint on the "why did he rush back to Germany" discussion.
It must be Friday and you are bored or another TFC FO "conspiracy" coming out soon. :D
PopePouri
10-28-2011, 08:59 AM
The guy is a machine. It's why he's the one of the best.
Nothing really Spectacular, He's there to train, Think it's an interesting playing here, having to travel so far for games and at such different altitudes. I can understand his thoughts here, Germany is a much smaller place then North America.
Wants to train until January when Preseason Starts here.
Compares MLS to 2nd Bundesliga says it is lacking in technology and tactics, which we already know but its a fair compliment that the league is being compared to second tier European leagues is a plus.
One thing that I found interesting and my German is very bad. But it seems either Toronto or Bremen is trying to get him to sign a contract to come in as staff at the end of his Career but I can't tell which team. He hasn't signed anything yet though.
anyone read German a lot better then me? It's taken the better part of any hour for me to get that much.
denime
10-28-2011, 09:13 AM
Nothing really Spectacular, He's there to train, Think it's an interesting playing here, having to travel so far for games and at such different altitudes. I can understand his thoughts here, Germany is a much smaller place then North America.
Wants to train until January when Preseason Starts here.
Compares MLS to 2nd Bundesliga says it is lacking in technology and tactics, which we already know but its a fair compliment that the league is being compared to second tier European leagues is a plus.
One thing that I found interesting and my German is very bad. But it seems either Toronto or Bremen is trying to get him to sign a contract to come in as staff at the end of his Career but I can't tell which team. He hasn't signed anything yet though.
anyone read German a lot better then me? It's taken the better part of any hour for me to get that much.
He was suppose to sign a contract with Werder to be a part of their staff after he retires,however Werder did not offer him anything for now and he does not know what he will do after retirement
He also said how he loves Toronto he can do whatever he wants without being approached on the street and it was right decision to come here to play.
Whoop
10-28-2011, 09:17 AM
More.
He seems pretty happy with his MLS adventure.
http://www.werder.de/en/aktuell/news/36083.php
Credit newf for the find.
i dont know german, but im sure the article doesnt mention him diving under pooltables..
LOL took me a minute to remember the reference.
Sweet fuck yah! From the article Vic posted:
You are beaming while you tell those stories. We can hardly recognise you.
Torsten Frings: "Ah, after a couple months I am able to say I am happy that everything happened how it did. I would not want to have missed this time in Canada."
flatpicker
10-28-2011, 09:36 AM
The picture of Frings in that article gave me a chuckle.
At first glance, it kinda looked like he was chilling out and smoking a spliff.
:stogey:
http://www.werder.de/media/images/fussball/profis/saison_2011_12/630/fringsinterviewspielerlounge630.jpg
^^ That last comment by Torsten makes me all sorts of happy.
Whoop
10-28-2011, 09:46 AM
German interviews... in case something gets lost in the translation.
Part 1
http://www.werder.de/de/profis/news/36076.php
Part 2
http://www.werder.de/de/profis/news/36078.php
ccopela
10-28-2011, 10:30 AM
The picture of Frings in that article gave me a chuckle.
At first glance, it kinda looked like he was chilling out and smoking a spliff.
Looks like he's wearing a Jays hat! (or at least an MLB hat)
Wagner
10-28-2011, 10:32 AM
So i guess the odds are slim that he'll be at the year end party...
:(
prizby
10-28-2011, 10:57 AM
More.
He seems pretty happy with his MLS adventure.
http://www.werder.de/en/aktuell/news/36083.php
Credit newf for the find.
lol 20 fans at the dallas replay
Oldtimer
10-28-2011, 10:59 AM
Just the title of this thread is enough to raise people's panic levels to 4 out of 5. :D
BTW, Frings is a big enough name that he would never need a trial to prove himself, unlike some North American players.
If he's there for "training," it's because he's there for training.
Yohan
10-28-2011, 11:10 AM
Frings is actually on a secret recruiting mission to get Tim Borowski and Claudio Pizarro to sign for TFC ;)
mastermixer
10-28-2011, 11:13 AM
Frings is my Dion Phaneuf. :scarf:
Whoop
10-28-2011, 11:16 AM
I think the title of the thread is misleading.
The tweet suggest that Bremen supporters wish it wasn't just to train.
Edit: Original tweet was from Philippe Auclair.
Joe Kool
10-28-2011, 11:31 AM
My next door neighbour seems to always have the scoop because of his connections with people in and around the team. He told me about the DeRo training with Celtic long before it ever made the news among many other things that have all come to pass but he is always holding back certain details with me. I don't think he means to hold back it is more just because he happens to hear the conversations and doesn't really know the team well enough to give me exact details. Also, his accent is hard to understand. He told me there will be at least a few of the players we have going on loans or just training with teams overseas to stay fit. I guess he wasn't far off again. Based on that I would think that Frings won't be the only one. Again, I never really post this stuff because I am always skeptical but he is right too many times and I find it interesting when things get confirmed.
Pookie
10-28-2011, 11:39 AM
As long as he got permission....
:hide:
ManUtd4ever
10-28-2011, 11:51 AM
More.
He seems pretty happy with his MLS adventure.
http://www.werder.de/en/aktuell/news/36083.php
Credit newf for the find.
Gotta love the title of the article in reference to his experiences in MLS and Central America in the CCL...
"Tornado warning and machine guns"
:lol:
Auzzy
10-28-2011, 12:05 PM
He was suppose to sign a contract with Werder to be a part of their staff after he retires,however Werder did not offer him anything for now and he does not know what he will do after retirement
He also said how he loves Toronto he can do whatever he wants without being approached on the street and it was right decision to come here to play.
Actually, Werder did already offer him a contract as a trainer, for the time after he retires as a player. Frings said "I haven't signed the contract, although one was offered to me. That offer still stands. But I don't know yet, what I will do later."
from http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/torsten-frings/zurueck-zu-werder-20685128.bild.html
Auzzy
10-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Puts an interesting tint on the "why did he rush back to Germany" discussion.
No, not at all. Especially since there have only been vague conversations with Werder about training with them, nothing concrete yet.
The guy likes it in Toronto, likes his high-rise apartment near the Rogers Centre with view of the lake, likes the adventure he's been having.
But he's very happy to be back in Bremen for the off-season. (Note that the population of Bremen is around 550,000.) He stayed a long time at the TFC 90th-minute party, milling with the fans, and was friendly, although he probably didn't feel very comfortable. That was likely enough for him. In these German interviews, they mention with a wink that they're surprised to get Torsten in for any interview, let alone an extended interview. He's known in Germany for not being a big fan of the media hype. And he's mentioned that he had to get used to that in Toronto, including the media access immediately after games.
LOL, he forgot to park his motorcycle in the garage before he left Bremen, now it's all bleached.
He says TFC has about 3.8 million Euros = $5.3 million in salary for the whole squad. First I thought he had the salary cap (2.55 mill) wrong -- but maybe that's the total including the 3 DPs?
Oldtimer
10-28-2011, 12:30 PM
As long as he got permission....
:hide:
Now that Mariner is in charge of this sort of thing, I doubt we'll see these types of issues again.
Ossington Mental Youth
10-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Frings is actually on a secret recruiting mission to get Tim Borowski and Claudio Pizarro to sign for TFC ;)
God i wish. i would have no probs with TFC becoming a sister club to Bremen. They send us their older players (or younger players on loan) we sell off ours (cept they got no money at all).
Yes this is a fantasy
nfitz
10-28-2011, 01:46 PM
Wonderful articles! Glad to see he's enjoying himself.
And great to see his contract goes through end of 2013!
__wowza
10-28-2011, 02:12 PM
God i wish. i would have no probs with TFC becoming a sister club to Bremen. They send us their older players (or younger players on loan) we sell off ours (cept they got no money at all).
Yes this is a fantasy
interesting point, why dont we have a sister club?
RSL has one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Salt_Lake#Real_Madrid_and_Youth_Academy) with real madrid, but i don't know how that's working out for them. anyone have any word on whether or not its been looked into by the FO?
interesting point, why dont we have a sister club?
RSL has one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Salt_Lake#Real_Madrid_and_Youth_Academy) with real madrid, but i don't know how that's working out for them. anyone have any word on whether or not its been looked into by the FO?
Well, on the one hand, the benefits might only be cosmetic, and a waste of time. On the other hand, there could be real benefits in terms of loans and whatnot, but it might also be too limiting for TFC if that's the case. I'd rather we just stayed the course as is.
Ossington Mental Youth
10-28-2011, 02:50 PM
i seem to think clubs of that caliber dont loan out to leagues of our caliber
Yohan
10-28-2011, 03:49 PM
i seem to think clubs of that caliber dont loan out to leagues of our caliber
Spurs loaned Simon Dawkins to San Jose.
But yeah. Most MLS to EPL partnerships have been pretty crappy
Detroit_TFC
10-28-2011, 04:08 PM
There needs to be an actual financial interest for partnerships to be meaningful. Most partnerships whether Euro league to MLS or MLS to lower division North American teams are tenuous at best.
Ossington Mental Youth
10-28-2011, 04:26 PM
Spurs loaned Simon Dawkins to San Jose.
But yeah. Most MLS to EPL partnerships have been pretty crappy
and here i thought he had been released or something along those lines. i stand corrected.
ginkster88
10-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Spurs are officially partnered with San Jose, Chicago is partnered with "Atlético Madrid, Mexican giants Club América, Brazilian power SC Internacional and four other teams around the globe", Arsenal are partnered with Colorado... apparently there are others but Google wasn't forthcoming.
jloome
10-28-2011, 06:01 PM
Spurs are officially partnered with San Jose, Chicago is partnered with "Atlético Madrid, Mexican giants Club América, Brazilian power SC Internacional and four other teams around the globe", Arsenal are partnered with Colorado... apparently there are others but Google wasn't forthcoming.
LA Galaxy are partnered with Don Garber's anus.
Columbus Crew are partnered with a 42-year-old, bucktoothed transvestite prostitute named Ethel who lives under a culvert in Toledo.
FC Dallas is partnered with its fan.
Alonso
10-28-2011, 06:07 PM
LA Galaxy are partnered with Don Garber's anus. HAHAHA!!! :D I nearly s@$t myself!
Columbus Crew are partnered with a 42-year-old, bucktoothed transvestite prostitute named Ethel who lives under a culvert in Toledo.
FC Dallas is partnered with its fan.
This is brilliant stuff right here!
bigtfcfan
10-28-2011, 09:42 PM
Good for him. He'll be in shape when he comes back. The worse thing a player at his age can do is to stop training for 4 months in the offseason.
Kooper
11-01-2011, 03:39 PM
Good for him. He'll be in shape when he comes back. The worse thing a player at his age can do is to stop training for 4 months in the offseason.
Good if he is just training with them but keep him away from the playing pitch. The last thing we want is to lose him until the middle of June due to a loan.
Ossington Mental Youth
11-01-2011, 04:17 PM
hes not on loan, just training
prizby
11-01-2011, 04:41 PM
hes not on loan, just training
thanks for the input (this was figured out shortly after the thread was started)
los sonadores
11-02-2011, 02:40 PM
LA Galaxy are partnered with Don Garber's anus.
Columbus Crew are partnered with a 42-year-old, bucktoothed transvestite prostitute named Ethel who lives under a culvert in Toledo.
FC Dallas is partnered with its fan.
Haha. Classic.
jabbronies
11-02-2011, 03:36 PM
thanks for the input (this was figured out shortly after the thread was started)
Pretty sure he was replying to the post just above his.
Island Man
11-02-2011, 05:02 PM
and here i thought he had been released or something along those lines. i stand corrected.
He was, but then was resigned until 2013.
Ossington Mental Youth
11-02-2011, 05:29 PM
He was, but then was resigned until 2013.
by spurs or sj?
Good for him. He'll be in shape when he comes back. The worse thing a player at his age can do is to stop training for 4 months in the offseason.
Maybe he should invite koev to stay with him during the off season. Imagine what he does for a full season if he's in shape. :hump::(
loconet
11-02-2011, 09:09 PM
"The Mexicans ran around like rabbits and we played like 80-year-olds." .. LOL
jimiv
11-05-2011, 05:53 PM
More on Torsten Frings' future at Werder Bremen - http://www.werder.de/en/aktuell/news/36221.php
Klinsmann
11-09-2011, 12:31 PM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382698_309158855777782_160206600673009_1300564_120 5616750_n.jpg
loconet
11-11-2011, 08:37 AM
More on him here: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kreiszeitung.de%2Fsport%2Ffussb all%2Fwerder-bremen%2Fich-will-trainer-werden-1484084.html
Very interested in coaching.
ArmenJBX
11-12-2011, 10:01 AM
Torsten Frings has a no trade claus apparently, so he'd be automatically protected in the expansion draft!
Island Man
11-12-2011, 02:44 PM
by spurs or sj?
By Spurs.
Island Man
11-12-2011, 02:45 PM
Torsten Frings has a no trade claus apparently, so he'd be automatically protected in the expansion draft!
Brilliant news!
Brilliant news!
I wonder if it's in koevs as well. If so the fore planning of our FO is a pleasant surprise.
Darlofletch
11-12-2011, 06:01 PM
Torsten Frings has a no trade claus apparently, so he'd be automatically protected in the expansion draft!
Not quite as good news as it seems. What it means is that we have no choice, we HAVE to include him in our protected list. so we don't get to pick 11 plus Frings, but we have to pick him.
Doesn't change much as he'd have been there anyway.
http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/2012-expansion-draft-rules
Designated players are NOT automatically protected (i.e., clubs must choose whether to protect such players and if such player is not protected, he will be available for selection in the Expansion Draft). However, if the Designated Player has a no-trade clause in his contract, then his MLS club must protect him and he will count as one of the 11 players who may be protected.
colman1860
11-14-2011, 09:47 AM
Some awful reporting this morning on mlsnet. They refer to an AFP article, and say that "another DP could be on the move. Bundesliga side Werder Bremen wants Toronto's Torsten Frings to coach the youth team. “It is 99 percent set,” Bremen head coach Klaus Allofs said."
Click through to the link, and you'll find this article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jIJG0cn8Yha-ICl6D1uD39l7p_QQ?docId=CNG.fd0f0c2cc1dd8cdffbe8bbb 9258642a2.d51
Which is pretty clear that Frings would not go before he finishes in Toronto.
Batman
11-14-2011, 09:56 AM
Some awful reporting this morning on mlsnet. They refer to an AFP article, and say that "another DP could be on the move. Bundesliga side Werder Bremen wants Toronto's Torsten Frings to coach the youth team. “It is 99 percent set,” Bremen head coach Klaus Allofs said."
Click through to the link, and you'll find this article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jIJG0cn8Yha-ICl6D1uD39l7p_QQ?docId=CNG.fd0f0c2cc1dd8cdffbe8bbb 9258642a2.d51
Which is pretty clear that Frings would not go before he finishes in Toronto.
Ya..that sounds pretty misleading from mlsnet , doesn't it.
And just for clarification for those that dont open the link, I'm completing the sentence you posted:
"Is is 99 percent set that Torsten Frings will pursue his career as a coach at Werder Bremen after his time in Toronto," said Allofs.
So at least they are respecting our contract and it's not like he's about to leave immediately.
BTW.. other reports have Allofs possibly not sticking around very long.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7306918/Allofs-hints-at-summer-departure
So, it would seem a lot of talk is going on over there and I assume we don't have to worry about Frings leaving in the short term.
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