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denime
10-20-2011, 05:34 AM
Mornin'




TFC TV (http://torontofc.neulion.com/tfc/console.jsp)



Canada moves up four spots (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/19/canada-moves-up-four-spots)


Canada can be proud of Toronto FC (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/opinion/2011/10/canada-can-be-proud-of-toronto-fc.html?cmp=rss)


CCL: De Guzman soaking up TFC's win at Dallas (http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/article/2011/10/19/ccl-de-guzman-soaking-tfcs-win-dallas)


Ryan Johnson: TFC's unsung hero (http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/sports/article/162214--ryan-johnson-tfc-s-unsung-hero)


Kelly: TFC win in Dallas was a genuine sporting achievement (http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/mls/torontofc/article/1072375--kelly-tfc-win-in-dallas-was-a-genuine-sporting-achievement)


CCL quarterfinal scenarios: Two more in? (UPDATED) (http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/article/2011/10/10/ccl-quarterfinal-scenarios-mls-teams-all-can-advance)




SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshine-girl)


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pekduck
10-20-2011, 05:45 AM
Morning D. :)

ecospice
10-20-2011, 05:58 AM
John "J-Mo" Molinaro is now at Sportsnet. Good to see they have beefed up their soccer journalism.

flatpicker
10-20-2011, 06:02 AM
Morning...

I'd rather be in bed right now.

KGH
10-20-2011, 06:04 AM
Oh Kelly...can someone send him a picture of our roster properly identifying everyone...

[NBF]
10-20-2011, 07:40 AM
Colombian striker, Edison Chara, was murdered in Colombia. Seeing how dangerous some countries like Mexico, Brazil, and Colombia, IMO, it would be an ideal to look for young players in these countries. MLS already has a strong pocket of Colombian, Mexican and Brazillian players.

I would like to see a couple of central defenders come from these areas of the world.

Oldtimer
10-20-2011, 07:49 AM
Kelly is actually writing better articles these days. I wonder if the long exile on the "lifestyle" pages of the Star encouraged him to improve his craft.

TOBOR !
10-20-2011, 08:19 AM
FYI - FIFA Executive Committee is meeting today and tomorrow. Radical Anti-Corruption measures are not on the agenda, but are expected to be released to the media late tomorrow.

FIFA Ex-Co Preview - Reforms are Toughest Test of Blatter's Career (http://ht.ly/1fe2rE)

Don't expect much.

ensco
10-20-2011, 08:20 AM
Does a story that confirms every crazy thing you've ever thought about Columbus count as RPB news?

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/18/Wild-animals-loose-in-Muskingum-County.html

ManUtd4ever
10-20-2011, 08:31 AM
Does a story that confirms every crazy thing you've ever thought about Columbus count as RPB news?

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/18/Wild-animals-loose-in-Muskingum-County.html

An absolutely deplorable story.

Haven't they heard of tranquilizer guns?

It makes me sick to my stomach that they murdered all those exotic animals because of their own incompetence.

Kaz
10-20-2011, 08:33 AM
“Danny Koevermans started the run,” de Guzman said. “I was available in the midfield, so once that pass came to me, I knew Plata was on his way, so just to get it to him in that space. ... ”

This is the best part of the interviews and comments I've seen.

He knew Plata was going to make a run. in the past that really didn't seem to be the case. The Boys know when someone is going to make a run, they know where to look, that is something that is great to see... I really can't wait for next season.

We all kinda said this season was a write off, we knew that, so long as we saw improvement at the end of the season we'd be happy.

Here we are, and that is it.

If we don't make the playoffs next season I'm T-Ping the MLSE building.

Oldtimer
10-20-2011, 08:54 AM
Does a story that confirms every crazy thing you've ever thought about Columbus count as RPB news?

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/18/Wild-animals-loose-in-Muskingum-County.html


No, it's definitely Off-Topic.

scooter
10-20-2011, 09:16 AM
mornin d

nigel reed is spot on as usual

cathal kelly is a wanker as always

scooter
10-20-2011, 09:23 AM
This is the best part of the interviews and comments I've seen.

He knew Plata was going to make a run. in the past that really didn't seem to be the case. The Boys know when someone is going to make a run, they know where to look, that is something that is great to see... I really can't wait for next season.

We all kinda said this season was a write off, we knew that, so long as we saw improvement at the end of the season we'd be happy.

Here we are, and that is it.

If we don't make the playoffs next season I'm T-Ping the MLSE building.

x2 see my sig

Yohan
10-20-2011, 10:03 AM
mornin d

nigel reed is spot on as usual

cathal kelly is a wanker as always
kelly also got the fact that RSL made it to the finals wrong

RealG-TFC
10-20-2011, 10:07 AM
kelly also got the fact that RSL made it to the finals wrong

except they did, oh nvermind he said they only made it to the semis

GBV
10-20-2011, 10:19 AM
^he said they're the only MLS team to get to the semis in this version of the tourney.
he didn't say they didn't get past the semis.
his point is they're the only MLS team to get into semis.

jloome
10-20-2011, 01:36 PM
Kelly is an exceptionally talented wordsmith and an intellectually lazy journalist who uses everything from obfuscation and confabulation to direct ad hominems to score points one way or the other.

He'd be a talent if he stuck to writing about things he cared about. Soccer is quite obviously not one of those things.

In other news, DeRo cements his place as a team player as DC is knocked out of the playoffs:

"Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

Canary10
10-20-2011, 01:57 PM
"Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

Wow, that's really telling.

GBV
10-20-2011, 03:08 PM
"Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

Wow, that's really telling.

How about we play fair -- quelle concept -- and include the rest of the quotes, too:

WASHINGTON — For most of the second half, it was quite clear that D.C. United midfielder Dwayne De Rosario wasn’t operating at 100 percent. With pain in his right shin, he labored through the final 45 but still managed to score in D.C.’s 1-1 draw with Portland.

“I’ve actually been kicked in the same spot about three games in a row now, and at halftime I didn’t think I would be able to make it,” he said after the game. “Sometimes you just have to suck it up and play for your team and that’s what I tried to do.”

But it wasn’t enough. The result eliminated United from playoff contention, and De Rosario took that consequence personally.

“Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

The Canadian international has won four MLS Cups in his career: two with San Jose in 2001 and 2003, and two with Houston in 2006 and 2007. But he has now missed out on the postseason three years in a row. He spent the 2009 and 2010 seasons with Toronto FC, both years failing to reach the postseason. He started this season again with Toronto then was traded to New York in April before being acquired by D.C. in June.

“It was disheartening,” De Rosario, whose career-high 15th goal pushed him into the lead in the Golden Boot race. “But it isn’t [disheartening] in the sense that we showed some fight. It was another learning opportunity for a lot of us. We’re happy that the supporters stuck with us through the whole game, which means a lot to us as players.”

jloome
10-20-2011, 05:01 PM
How about we play fair -- quelle concept -- and include the rest of the quotes, too:

WASHINGTON — For most of the second half, it was quite clear that D.C. United midfielder Dwayne De Rosario wasn’t operating at 100 percent. With pain in his right shin, he labored through the final 45 but still managed to score in D.C.’s 1-1 draw with Portland.

“I’ve actually been kicked in the same spot about three games in a row now, and at halftime I didn’t think I would be able to make it,” he said after the game. “Sometimes you just have to suck it up and play for your team and that’s what I tried to do.”

But it wasn’t enough. The result eliminated United from playoff contention, and De Rosario took that consequence personally.

“Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

The Canadian international has won four MLS Cups in his career: two with San Jose in 2001 and 2003, and two with Houston in 2006 and 2007. But he has now missed out on the postseason three years in a row. He spent the 2009 and 2010 seasons with Toronto FC, both years failing to reach the postseason. He started this season again with Toronto then was traded to New York in April before being acquired by D.C. in June.

“It was disheartening,” De Rosario, whose career-high 15th goal pushed him into the lead in the Golden Boot race. “But it isn’t [disheartening] in the sense that we showed some fight. It was another learning opportunity for a lot of us. We’re happy that the supporters stuck with us through the whole game, which means a lot to us as players.”

So you think that last quote somehow makes up for the first one? That not including it was somehow disingenuous? Naive.

Chevy
10-20-2011, 05:09 PM
"Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

Wow, that's really telling.


Note the bold and underlined type. I think THAT's really telling.

Dkolish3
10-20-2011, 05:47 PM
Interesting article up on the 11.ca

http://the11.ca/2011/10/19/tfcs-success-in-concacaf-will-force-juggling-of-2012-ncc-schedule/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=tfcs-success-in-concacaf-will-force-juggling-of-2012-ncc-schedule

He basically points out how playing in CCL will affect our schedule but this led me to realize the insane amount of games (57 including MLS, Playoffs, NCC, and CCL) that Toronto could play next year, and the fact that fixture congestion could kill our hopes and chances

GBV
10-20-2011, 06:55 PM
So you think that last quote somehow makes up for the first one? That not including it was somehow disingenuous? Naive.

Ah jeez. I laugh.

:facepalm::facepalm:

habstfc
10-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Watching the new york-philly game, you'd think with new york fighting for their lives they'd have more than a half-empty stadium.

habstfc
10-20-2011, 07:18 PM
Good goal by richards.

GBV
10-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Watching the new york-philly game, you'd think with new york fighting for their lives they'd have more than a half-empty stadium.

Yeah, pretty shitty. You'd think a nice, new stadium like that would be sold out every game.
Missed the goal though. Damnit.
Phil has a 16 year old playing? Woah.

Waggy
10-20-2011, 07:38 PM
How about we play fair -- quelle concept -- and include the rest of the quotes, too:

WASHINGTON — For most of the second half, it was quite clear that D.C. United midfielder Dwayne De Rosario wasn’t operating at 100 percent. With pain in his right shin, he labored through the final 45 but still managed to score in D.C.’s 1-1 draw with Portland.

“I’ve actually been kicked in the same spot about three games in a row now, and at halftime I didn’t think I would be able to make it,” he said after the game. “Sometimes you just have to suck it up and play for your team and that’s what I tried to do.”

But it wasn’t enough. The result eliminated United from playoff contention, and De Rosario took that consequence personally.

“Another year for me that I’m not going to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s tough to swallow, to be honest.”

The Canadian international has won four MLS Cups in his career: two with San Jose in 2001 and 2003, and two with Houston in 2006 and 2007. But he has now missed out on the postseason three years in a row. He spent the 2009 and 2010 seasons with Toronto FC, both years failing to reach the postseason. He started this season again with Toronto then was traded to New York in April before being acquired by D.C. in June.

“It was disheartening,” De Rosario, whose career-high 15th goal pushed him into the lead in the Golden Boot race. “But it isn’t [disheartening] in the sense that we showed some fight. It was another learning opportunity for a lot of us. We’re happy that the supporters stuck with us through the whole game, which means a lot to us as players.”

Um, the quotes have no relation to each other. Feel bad for him he got kicked in the shin, don't see what that has to do with the quote that was already mentioned. Also, if Dero is MLS mvp, it does lend some credibility to the argument that he isn't the type of player to throw teammates on his back and carry them is he? He literally could have done nothing more for DC, but they were 5-9-6 after getting him. 21 points in 20 matches isn't terrible (in the same span (since June 27) TFC has 20 points. Obviously CL not included), but it's not like they were world beaters. I feel bad for the guy. He's definitely a poacher but he can't be asked to be the engine of a team. or even the spark plug. He's Nos.

GBV
10-20-2011, 08:00 PM
Um, the quotes have no relation to each other. Feel bad for him he got kicked in the shin, don't see what that has to do with the quote that was already mentioned. Also, if Dero is MLS mvp, it does lend some credibility to the argument that he isn't the type of player to throw teammates on his back and carry them is he? He literally could have done nothing more for DC, but they were 5-9-6 after getting him. 21 points in 20 matches isn't terrible (in the same span (since June 27) TFC has 20 points. Obviously CL not included), but it's not like they were world beaters. I feel bad for the guy. He's definitely a poacher but he can't be asked to be the engine of a team. or even the spark plug. He's Nos.

In soccer more than any other sport, I would say, one player do not a team make. NYRB, with that Henry guy there, is a mere one game above .500 heading into tonight.

Detroit_TFC
10-20-2011, 08:56 PM
Both RBNY and Philly are playing like crap. RB I can understand but Philly's slip in form is a little more puzzling.

Waggy
10-20-2011, 11:26 PM
In soccer more than any other sport, I would say, one player do not a team make. NYRB, with that Henry guy there, is a mere one game above .500 heading into tonight.

Yup, and if you follow Ives on twitter he pointed out that Henry is FAR from the Red Bulls MVP. I know one player doesn't make a team, but Dero was the poacher on a club that had a very good 3 year run, and since then hasn't had much success from a team POV. I don't think he's a bad player, just I think he gets put in roles to be a leader and it's just not him. We asked him to be our leader. Had we asked him to be Danny K, the 2nd best player on the team, a guy whos job it is to just put the ball in the net, I feel like it'd probably have gone different for him here.

TFCREDNWHITE
10-21-2011, 12:35 AM
^he said they're the only MLS team to get to the semis in this version of the tourney.
he didn't say they didn't get past the semis.
his point is they're the only MLS team to get into semis.

Didn't kelly say RSL went to the semis? But in reality they went to the finals and lost...no?

GBV
10-21-2011, 07:18 AM
Didn't kelly say RSL went to the semis? But in reality they went to the finals and lost...no?

His point was that RSL was the only MLS team to reach the semis.

Meaning they're the only MLS team to get past the quarters. Which Toronto FC are in.

Finals has nothing to do with the point that they're the only MLS team to get past the stage Toronto is currently at.

GBV
10-21-2011, 07:22 AM
Yup, and if you follow Ives on twitter he pointed out that Henry is FAR from the Red Bulls MVP. I know one player doesn't make a team, but Dero was the poacher on a club that had a very good 3 year run, and since then hasn't had much success from a team POV. I don't think he's a bad player, just I think he gets put in roles to be a leader and it's just not him. We asked him to be our leader. Had we asked him to be Danny K, the 2nd best player on the team, a guy whos job it is to just put the ball in the net, I feel like it'd probably have gone different for him here.

Not sure I'd necessarily call a guy who scores lots of his goals from outside the 18-yard box, and who is also top five in the league in assists, a "poacher."