MLS/CCL 21 Sept

[Yohan]

DC vs Chivas USA 730pm
NY vs RSL 8pm
Portland vs SJ 1030pm

Dallas vs Pumas 8pm
Alajuelense vs LA 10pm

[Oldtimer]

Dallas vs Pumas will be a very important match for us. A Dallas win gives us a very good chance to make it to the next round.

[phonzo]

indeed tonight we through some positive karma towards FC Dallas....

[rocker]

Setanta Canada has the Dallas game at 8pm tonight.

[jloome]

Amadou Sanyang started for Seattle in midfield in last night's loss. They had to play two DMs because of injuries.

[Yohan]

Amadou Sanyang started for Seattle in midfield in last night's loss. They had to play two DMs because of injuries.

And was pretty bad

[Oldtimer]

CCL: Pumas to field full-strength lineup against FC Dallas


GUADALAJARA, Mexico — FC Dallas won’t be facing the baby felines this time around. Pumas UNAM head coach Guillermo Vázquez says he’ll field a full-strength team for Wednesday’s trip to Pizza Hut Park in CONCACAF Champions League play (8 pm ET, FOX Soccer).
“I proposed it [to the first-team players], told them that this [competition] is important to me and that they should participate and play,” Vázquez told reporters shortly before leaving for Texas. “I had a very favorable response from each of them.”


Not looking too good...

[PopePouri]

Not looking too good...

I guess they didn't field their first team in the first two matches because the players didn't want to play. Well done coach by changing their minds.

[BuSaPuNk]

That's really not good makes a tough task even more tough. Hopefully they can atleast tie at this point.

[mowe]

Crazy game in Dallas! Double red to Jackson and a Pumas player after a headbutt and an elbow in the first half.

Tied 0-0, 10v10 the rest of the way.

[denime]

It's looking good for now,let's hope that with 10 v10 MLS physical style will prevail.

[mowe]

Notes at the half: exciting game, fun to watch. Dallas' back four really shows how long ours has to go, very solid back there. Pumas has brought a great contingent of supporters, badly outnumber FCD fans.

Match could go either way at this point. TFC's chances to advance hang in the balance!

[Hugh Jazz]

New York with some terrible blunders from their backline, down three to RSL at half-time.

[sully]

Dallas should have scored there. Bad miss. Free header.

[Yohan]

Pumas gotta love the home field advantage :p

Dallas should really be up 1-0... another bad miss

[Yohan]

What a save by Kevin Hartman!

[mowe]

Huge save by Hartman. Still 0-0.

[Yohan]

http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/87572_fc_dallas_unam/

streams

[Alonso]

http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/87572_fc_dallas_unam/

streams

Thanks Yohan

[sully]

watching and willing Dallas to score is weird, not only cos it's Dallas, but because the team I want to win is actually playing good football all over the field...not used to that!

[mowe]

FUCK!!!! Pumas scores!

[sully]

shit

[denime]

Damn,86 min. 1-0 Pumas

[LittleOzzy]

We are screwed...

[colman1860]

There goes our season then

[DOMIN8R]

http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/87572_fc_dallas_unam/

streams

That one is not working for me but the CONCACAF site is.

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/forcelogin/WatchLiveEvent/0,,12907~672287,00.html?

[FIAF]

Too easy for the guy on the right-wing, every chance he wins them.

[spe18]

Yup, I third that

[TFC07]

I guess we have to win both games now to stay alive in CCL.

[spe18]

Dallas making a sub. Let's see if bringing in subs brings new hope heading into the 86th min of play

[profit89]

way to go fcd... jerk-offs

[FIAF]

I guess we have to win both games now to stay alive in CCL.

Easier said then done!

[colman1860]

I guess "There goes our season" was a slight exaggeration, but it's going to be extremely tough now

[sully]

and Dallas had the chances to win this game..no luck at all

[SirBobSaget]

the Key TFC players better not be on the flight to Cali. Need to go all out vs a hopefully tired Pumas side on Tuesday

[mowe]

Pumas make it 2-0. : (

[FIAF]

Again the right winger he's either really good or that defender is terrible....

[Yohan]

Next tues is going to suck. ugh. Pumas torn apart a rather good Dallas defence. Imagine what their first team would do to TFC

[denime]

That's it 2-0,now what?

[SirBobSaget]

Next tues is going to suck. ugh. Pumas torn apart a rather good Dallas defence. Imagine what their first team would do to TFC

They would go up 4-0 first half

[Globetrotter]

Dallas 7pts
Pumas 7pts
Toronto 6pts

Everyone has 2 games left. We control our own path. We're far from done. Suck it up downers!!!

[SirBobSaget]

Dallas still has a tough game in Panama, could hope for a draw there leaving Dallas with only 8 pts (and TFC with 9pts winning vs FCD)

[Alonso]

Best case scenario... we field our b team on Saturday and A team on Tuesday for the win!

Then we do the same for Dallas.

[mowe]

Well that's that then. 2-0 Pumas final. Worst possible outcome. TFC need maximum points from next two games or some help from Tauro again. So much for the knockout stages.

Pumas outplayed Dallas in the second half though. They deserved to win.

[redcard]

They would go up 4-0 first half


keep in mind we wont be playing at altitude...i believe we will be ok and pull out a result.

[denime]

Dallas 7pts
Pumas 7pts
Toronto 6pts

Everyone has 2 games left. We control our own path. We're far from done. Suck it up downers!!!

+1 and stay at home next Tuesday too.

[SirBobSaget]

Dallas 7pts
Pumas 7pts
Toronto 6pts

Everyone has 2 games left. We control our own path. We're far from done. Suck it up downers!!!

Problem is FCD and Pumas have games vs Tauro, which is almost a guaranteed 3pts, especially Pumas at home vs Tauro, can hope for Dallas tying in Panama.

[Yohan]

Looks like a good crowd at Alajuelense for LA galaxy game

[TorontoGooner]

I think we can still do this. Come on boys, get your heads up and realise we're only a point off the top!

It's a tall order but so what? With a grinding performance like last night we might not be pretty, but we may be able to get some results

[SirBobSaget]

keep in mind we wont be playing at altitude...i believe we will be ok and pull out a result.

No doubt, I wasn't serious, it will be a better prepared team this Tuesday.

[mowe]

Wow, just checked the DC-Chivas recap. 2-2 final. DeRo scored a goal but missed a stoppage time penalty to give his team the win. JPA with the brace.

[Redpunkfiddle]

Dallas 7pts
Pumas 7pts
Toronto 6pts

Everyone has 2 games left. We control our own path. We're far from done. Suck it up downers!!!

Either:

We need to win both games to top Pumas.

Or we need to at least draw pumas AND beat Dallas away to nick them now

[TFCDP]

Dallas still has a tough game in Panama, could hope for a draw there leaving Dallas with only 8 pts (and TFC with 9pts winning vs FCD)

Probably our best hope

[Globetrotter]

Problem is FCD and Pumas have games vs Tauro, which is almost a guaranteed 3pts, especially Pumas at home vs Tauro, can hope for Dallas tying in Panama.

If we can't beat Pumas at home, or an MLS rival on the road, we won't fare well deeper in the tournament anyways. Win both games and we're in first place. Period.

[PopePouri]

Problem is FCD and Pumas have games vs Tauro, which is almost a guaranteed 3pts, especially Pumas at home vs Tauro, can hope for Dallas tying in Panama.

True. Both teams destroyed Tauro and got the almost guaranteed 3 points when they played the first time.

[Yohan]

There wasn't any 'destroying' of Tauro by Dallas and Pumas. both teams drew vs Tauro

LA vs Alajuelense

http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-2/10/76/v-307642.html
spanish

[Oldtimer]

Tauro has nothing to play for but pride.

No, TFC needs a minimum win and a draw to go through.

[Yohan]

haha. Landycakes shit the bed on a sitter

[kodiakTFC]

Colorado is playing too.

[TorCanSoc]

Wow Dallas looked very organized defensively. Aside from the late goal, they looked like they had Pumas in check. Sure Pumas had more of the game in the second half, but its not like it was chance after chance for the Mexicans.

Dallas played composed, good ball movement. Pumas were quick.

Refs got the game spot on. Good match.... aside from the real shitty outcome.

[habstfc]

Isn't there the possibility of the 2 best third place teams going through? I heard them mention it on last night's seattle game.

[Yohan]

Isn't there the possibility of the 2 best third place teams going through? I heard them mention it on last night's seattle game.
no. that's completely wrong. top two teams from each group advances only

[TFC1154ever]

See what fucks us is are goal difference. Dallas Has 0, while we have -3. If we tie against Pumas, and Dallas wins, we are 3 points behind Dallas. If we pull out a victory in Dallas, we would have to have to at least beat them by 2 goals (thats if they only beat Tauro by 1), but then again, this Tauro team gave both Pumas (ok there Bteam) and Dallas problems. This Pumas first team is very good, and we should be thrilled if we get a point.

[Yohan]

I believe first tiebreaker is record against other teams in case of a draw

[kodiakTFC]

Espana is up 1-0 on Colorado. Its in Colorado. Man has Colorado collapsed in the past month and a bit.

[kodiakTFC]

Colorado scored. 1-1.

[kodiakTFC]

Wow that goal from Alajuelense was incredible.

[kodiakTFC]

Espana scored. 2-1 Espana > Colorado.

[TFC1154ever]

I believe first tiebreaker is record against other teams in case of a draw

Phase 2: Group Stage. 1)Greater number of points earned in matches between the teams concerned. 2)Greater goal difference in matches between the teams concerned. 3) Greater number of goals scored away from home in matches between the teams concerned. 4) Reapply first three criteria if two or more teams are still tied. 5) Greater goal difference in all group matches. 6) Greater number of goals scored in group matches. 7) Greater number of goals scored away in all group Matches.8) Drawing of lots

This means if we draw Pumas and Dallas beats Tauro by 1, we would have to beat Dallas by 2 to finish ahead of them in the standings.

[TFCREDNWHITE]

Shit!

[Yohan]

Phase 2: Group Stage. 1)Greater number of points earned in matches between the teams concerned. 2)Greater goal difference in matches between the teams concerned. 3) Greater number of goals scored away from home in matches between the teams concerned. 4) Reapply first three criteria if two or more teams are still tied. 5) Greater goal difference in all group matches. 6) Greater number of goals scored in group matches. 7) Greater number of goals scored away in all group Matches.8) Drawing of lots

This means if we draw Pumas and Dallas beats Tauro by 1, we would have to beat Dallas by 2 to finish ahead of them in the standings.
point 2 sounds like goal difference between tied teams, while point 5 is goal difference in all group matches

[Yohan]

http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=seeon&c=19934&lang=en&eid=88591&lid=117813&ci=64&si=1

Portland up 1-0 vs SJ so far

[Redpunkfiddle]

The point is that we'd lose on the fifth tiebreaker so we'd need to win on the second or third.

[Yohan]

Timbers Army belting out the Horto. yeah. I'm jealous

[rocker]

Hey, if we don't advance, we didn't have the horses to do it. No shame in that. Right from the start everyone was jizzing over Dallas and Pumas anyways. It was only when things didn't go quite right for Pumas that people started wondering if TFC could sneak in. But I don't want to sneak in. If we go in to the quarters, we should go in on our own terms, with wins!!!! Win out and it doesn't matter what other teams did for us. Booyah!!!

[Yohan]

oh man. attakora seemed to have learned a lot of bad habits from nick garcia

[Darlofletch]

The point is that we'd lose on the fifth tiebreaker so we'd need to win on the second or third.

yep, if dallas beats tauro, they'll have 10. if we tie pumas then beat dallas we'll have 10. if we beat them by anything better then 1-0, we'll advance on either gd between the two teams, or most away goals scored between 2 teams. win 1-0 and it goes to over all gd and we''re screwed.

[kodiakTFC]

I hate Concacaf. Watching Alajuelense vs. LA is pretty bad with the diving but Real Espana vs. Colorado is actually disgusting. The smallest contact, i'm talking a light body check and the goalie in convulsing. Are Concacaf referees this stupid? Do they really believe these guys are this fragile? Its times like this I understand why this sport gets so much flack in our country.

[kodiakTFC]

Here's a stat for you guys, of the 5 MLS teams in the CCL all teams lost except Toronto.

[Yohan]

^what? TFC lost vs Dallas and Pumas

Khari Stephenson ties the game at 1-1 for SJ from just outside the box

[Blowing Bubbles]

I hate Concacaf. Watching Alajuelense vs. LA is pretty bad with the diving but Real Espana vs. Colorado is actually disgusting. The smallest contact, i'm talking a light body check and the goalie in convulsing. Are Concacaf referees this stupid? Do they really believe these guys are this fragile? Its times like this I understand why this sport gets so much flack in our country.

meh, how is this any different than La Liga?

[Yohan]

love that shot of grandma in Timbers Army section

[Yohan]

Portland 1-1 San Jose final