14 Sept: TFC @ Pumas 8pm Pre-game thread

[Yohan]

Onward to Mexico City!

A draw would be a good result, but let's hope that Pumas still has that some sort of weird CCL disease they've been suffering and the Reds get 3 pts!

[DichioTFC]

Don't stop. Believin'...

[DichioTFC]

Pumas is 3-2-2 with +2 GD so far this season in the Mexican Apertura. They lost 4-0 yesterday on the road.

[kodiakTFC]

I don't think Pumas is taking this tournament seriously so 2-1 TFC.

[nascarguy]

I do not think we will win

[Red CB Toronto]

A victory for the Reds is pretty realistic when you consider that Pumas has been fielding a reserve/academy team in the tourney so far.

[Joe Kool]

I think we can pull of an upset and win. Anyone know the ruling in the CCL regarding backup goalkeepers? I know in MLS they will get us a guy from the MLS pool if Frei is out for a bit to back up Kocic but wondering about CCL since rosters are declared at the beginning. We could potentially have no backup to Kocic if anything happens.

[Oldtimer]

I think we can pull of an upset and win. Anyone know the ruling in the CCL regarding backup goalkeepers? I know in MLS they will get us a guy from the MLS pool if Frei is out for a bit to back up Kocic but wondering about CCL since rosters are declared at the beginning. We could potentially have no backup to Kocic if anything happens.

You can play academy players in the CCL, so I imagine that our academy GK will be the backup.

[Shakes McQueen]

I'll be optimistic and say the Reds pull out an unexpected 1-0 win. The more realistic side of me is hoping for a draw.

- Scott

[nxtmike]

Video I toke while I was down at pitch level during the Pumas UNAM / FC Dallas CCL game in Mexico City in August.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMU5i981YTM

Their attendance was half of what they usually get for league games (just like us), but it gives you an idea of what we'll be facing.

[Torontotonto]

I think we can pull of an upset and win. Anyone know the ruling in the CCL regarding backup goalkeepers? I know in MLS they will get us a guy from the MLS pool if Frei is out for a bit to back up Kocic but wondering about CCL since rosters are declared at the beginning. We could potentially have no backup to Kocic if anything happens.

Not sure, good point ?:noidea:

[TorontoPat]

Video I toke while I was down at pitch level during the Pumas UNAM / FC Dallas CCL game in Mexico City in August.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMU5i981YTM

Their attendance was half of what they usually get for league games (just like us), but it gives you an idea of what we'll be facing.
Freudian slip?

Funny to see the number of security people they had watching the fans.

[nxtmike]

Freudian slip?



No freudian slip at all. I was at this game while visiting family down there who are connected with the team.

Kevin Hartman was quite the character. Got mad at the ball boys quite a few times.

http://quedgedesign.com/Private_Media/IMG_0394.png

[Keystone FC]

I'll be optimistic and say the Reds pull out an unexpected 1-0 win. The more realistic side of me is hoping for a draw.

- Scott
Agree, but I'm also hoping that the CBus win will carry over to the Pumas match.

[Alonso]

No freudian slip at all. I was at this game while visiting family down there who are connected with the team.

Kevin Hartman was quite the character. Got mad at the ball boys quite a few times.

http://quedgedesign.com/Private_Media/IMG_0394.png

I think he was referring to your use of the word toke instead of took.

Were you toking at the game to? :D

[nxtmike]

Were you toking at the game to? :D

Not to my knowledge.... :D

[ryan]

anyone know what Pumas approach to this game is going to be yet?

TFC are 6:1 dogs...

[Waggy]

anyone know what Pumas approach to this game is going to be yet?

TFC are 6:1 dogs...

?! What's a draw paying? If there is such a thing in sports as momentum, we should have some serious positive energy going into this one.

[Island Man]

1-1 imo, johnson with the goal.

[kodiakTFC]

Bet on TFC if your a betting man, Pumas is putting the kids in.

http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2011/09/08/en-concachampions-pumas-seguira-con-jovenes-advierte-memo-vazquez

"Despite the lack of results in the CONCACAF tournament, the coach said the university will continue to pursue the quarry it is certain that their young will draw out the tournament."

[Fort York Redcoat]

Viewing Parties for this one? Haven't decided East side or West yet.

[rocker]

Bet on TFC if your a betting man, Pumas is putting the kids in.

http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2011/09/08/en-concachampions-pumas-seguira-con-jovenes-advierte-memo-vazquez

"Despite the lack of results in the CONCACAF tournament, the coach said the university will continue to pursue the quarry it is certain that their young will draw out the tournament."

So it seems the Mexican teams are treating this tournament the way MLS teams have in previous years: secondary to league play.

[Oldtimer]

Bet on TFC if your a betting man, Pumas is putting the kids in.

http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2011/09/08/en-concachampions-pumas-seguira-con-jovenes-advierte-memo-vazquez

"Despite the lack of results in the CONCACAF tournament, the coach said the university will continue to pursue the quarry it is certain that their young will draw out the tournament."

That is fantastic news!


So it seems the Mexican teams are treating this tournament the way MLS teams have in previous years: secondary to league play.


I wouldn't count on all the teams doing that. Pumas is desperate for a league win at this point. TFC needs to be prepared to fight all the way, as far as they go.

[rocker]

I wouldn't count on all the teams doing that. Pumas is desperate for a league win at this point. TFC needs to be prepared to fight all the way, as far as they go.

well, there's only 4 Mexican teams and the two I've watched (Pumas + Monterrey) have put out secondary squads. I am not sure what Santos Laguna and Morelia have done.

If these teams don't put out top squads in the group stage, there won't be many mexican teams left for the next stage of competition.

[__wowza]

I wouldn't count on all the teams doing that. Pumas is desperate for a league win at this point. TFC needs to be prepared to fight all the way, as far as they go.

i was just going to say. even if they put their A-team out there, we have nothing left in the league. we need to go all in on this.

if we win and even if the torros beat dallas, we'd be two points up. of the third place team with two more home games to go and perhaps a meaningless (for them) away fixture against dallas during the MLS playoffs!!


also: are eckersly and frings suspended due to yellowcards? (might wanna rethink your startin XI) i think i remember them picking them up against dallas. i also know that theyre at 3 a piece.

[ag futbol]

What are the chances we get concacaf streaming for this one?

[Hugh Jazz]

also: are eckersly and frings suspended due to yellowcards? (might wanna rethink your startin XI) i think i remember them picking them up against dallas. i also know that theyre at 3 a piece.

Wasn't Frings already suspended from yellow cards? I know Ecks and Avila are out. I guess that means fresh legs at least.

[Roogsy]

Is this the year Mexico crashes out of CCL? I hope so! Putting in the kids is such a disrespect to the tournament. I hope TFC capitalizes.

[pekduck]

Will Joe's be showing this?

[cherono]

The game's on GOL, right? I've just switched it on and it's 10 minutes into the Milan Lazio game?

(I didn't know Lazio signed Klose... he'll tear that league up....)

EDIT** Sorry, my grasp of time seems to be off. See you tomorrow.:o

[TFC1154ever]

The game's on GOL, right? I've just switched it on and it's 10 minutes into the Milan Lazio game?

(I didn't know Lazio signed Klose... he'll tear that league up....)

EDIT** Sorry, my grasp of time seems to be off. See you tomorrow.:o

Yea, he scored in a 2-2 tie against Milan at the San Siro. Lazio will finish 3rd this year in Serie A.

This is the big match of the group. A win puts us 5 points clear of Pumas and pretty much have the group with Dallas. I'm thinking a tie. 1-1, but who knows after that good performance in Columbus. Esk and Avila are going to be big loses in the line up thou.

[spark]

Wasn't Frings already suspended from yellow cards? I know Ecks and Avila are out. I guess that means fresh legs at least.

I'm seeing Frings missed the Tauro game because of 2 yellows v Esteli - has 1 yellow from Dallas, so he should be good. Ecks got a red v Dallas so he's done.

[KGH]

TORONTO FC -- OUT: MF Elbekay Bouchiba (R knee surgery recovery); DF Adrian Cann (R knee surgery recovery); DF Dicoy Williams (R knee surgery recovery); MF Joao Plata (L hamstring strain); DOUBTFUL: DF Demitrius Omphroy (R knee swelling); QUESTIONABLE: DF Dasan Robinson (L adductor tightness); GK Stefan Frei (quadriceps contusion); MF Matt Stinson (R metacarpal fracture)

Anyone have the story on Plata?

[Auzzy]

What are the chances we get concacaf streaming for this one?

Yes, it's listed on their website as a game they are streaming.


Wow, crap about Plata, I hadn't heard anything about him being injured. Stinson would be another loss, useful as a sub at least.

[Juanito]

Is this the year Mexico crashes out of CCL? I hope so! Putting in the kids is such a disrespect to the tournament. I hope TFC capitalizes.

Mejicanos, thinking they're all that and a bag of chips! ;)

If they play their kids and we captilaze, great! This is really all we have left, so let's git 'er done!!!

[Detroit_TFC]

That is bad news about Plata. :(

[Dv23]

We have no reason not to beat their kids. Have class from 6-9 tonight so will have to record this one. Damnit, the anticipation is going to be killing me.

[Couchy81]

TORONTO FC -- OUT: MF Elbekay Bouchiba (R knee surgery recovery); DF Adrian Cann (R knee surgery recovery); DF Dicoy Williams (R knee surgery recovery); MF Joao Plata (L hamstring strain); DOUBTFUL: DF Demitrius Omphroy (R knee swelling); QUESTIONABLE: DF Dasan Robinson (L adductor tightness); GK Stefan Frei (quadriceps contusion); MF Matt Stinson (R metacarpal fracture)

Anyone have the story on Plata?

I vaguely recall plata limping and making a face after a play in the 2nd half of the Columbus game, I remember thinking "shit I hope he's not injured". Hopefully he dresses and will be good as a late game sub like Koevs was with his hamstring tightness

[mowe]

We have no reason not to beat their kids.

I don't know about that. Dallas only beat them 1-0. Those kids played fast and furious that game, I can see it overwhelming our back line. I hope Henry gets the start. A win would put us in excellent position to advance, but I'd be happy with a draw. 2-2 final.

[flambe]

I can see it overwhelming our back line.

I predict at least one penalty awarded tonight.

[pekduck]

time to take out the bingo card and hope for a win! :D

edit: it'll be a hilarious night if all of us print out the bingo card and watch it at Joe's and mark each box as the game goes on

[jloome]

Yes, it's listed on their website as a game they are streaming.


Wow, crap about Plata, I hadn't heard anything about him being injured. Stinson would be another loss, useful as a sub at least.

Although at least now we have options. We can move Johnson wide right, keep Soolsma wide left and Koevermans should be ready to go up top again.

[Ben - D.O.W.]

Also if Stinson's issue is his hand (metacarpal fracture right?) can he not just pull a Jimmy B and play with his cast?

[ManUtd4ever]

It won't be easy to earn a result tonight without Avila, Plata, Eckersley, and Frei. I would go with the following starting lineup...


--------------Kocic--------------

Henry----Harden----Iro----Morgan

------DeGuzman-----Frings-------

------------Marosevic------------

Soolsma------------------Johnson

-----------Koevermans-----------


Subs: Dunfield, Martina, Borman

[billyfly]

Saw Cann this morning walking on Dundas and Sorauren.

[Yohan]

I have a feeling that tfc is goong to miss avila more than plata tonight

[lobo]

I have a feeling that tfc is goong to miss avila more than plata tonight
what'd i miss ... avila injured or ineligible?

[Ageroo]

what'd i miss ... avila injured or ineligible?

He is cup tied to Dallas. So cannot suit up for us until next round I believe.

[DichioTFC]

Odds from WillHill.com

Pumas v. TFC - 1.3 | 4.4 | 8.0
Dallas v. Tauro - 1.28 | 5.0 | 8.5
Herediano v. Seattle - 2.6 | 3.0 | 2.7

$25 bet on all MLS teams winning gives a return of $694
$25 bet on Dallas win, TFC and Seattle draws gives a return of $424

If you've got some money to burn, now's the time :)

[Yohan]

Asif Hossain reports Plata out for 3 weeks with a strained hamstring

[lobo]

Odds from WillHill.com

Pumas v. TFC - 1.3 | 4.4 | 8.0
Dallas v. Tauro - 1.28 | 5.0 | 8.5
Herediano v. Seattle - 2.6 | 3.0 | 2.7

$25 bet on all MLS teams winning gives a return of $694
$25 bet on Dallas win, TFC and Seattle draws gives a return of $424

If you've got some money to burn, now's the time :)

wonder if jimmy stone is putting a fiver down again

[nxtmike]

Asif Hossain reports Plata out for 3 weeks with a strained hamstring

:picard:

[PopePouri]

We have no reason not to beat their kids.

Somebody gonna get a-hurt real bad.

[Island Man]

Also bet on all MLS teams winning, really can't afford to lose much now so only bet 0.25! Still returns £89 :D

[flatpicker]

What are the chances we get concacaf streaming for this one?

I would also like to know if there will be a stream available.

[Strait shooter]

Martina did not travel to Mexico. Saw him with the academy yesterday.

[Yohan]

I would also like to know if there will be a stream available.
there will be a concacaf stream

[Island Man]

Martina did not travel to Mexico. Saw him with the academy yesterday.
Even beter chance of us getting a result then.

[swan]

Somebody gonna get a-hurt real bad.

:rofl::smilielol5:

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

must get a result here.....The fight for second...and the next round is on the line!

[leafsman]

hope we can get a draw at least, put small bet on TFC +1

[Canary10]

I think this will be a very difficult game. They're almost in a must win situation with games against us and Dallas on the road still to come. A draw would be an excellent result for us.

[Petor]

Somebody gonna get a-hurt real bad.

That you Russel? :)

[ryan]

you guys did see Santos Laguna go to Colorado and trounce them?

Or Morelia give a good go to LA in their 2-1 win?


Mexican clubs have woken up and if UNAM follows suit, we're going to not have much fun tonight.

[Torontotonto]

Hoping we can get something out of this match.
Injuries, cards, and eligibility issues aside.

Come On You REDS....

:drum::flare::scarf::flare::drum:
:canada:

[nxtmike]

Starting XI: Kocic; Henry, Harden, Iro, Morgan; de Guzman, Koevermans, Frings; Soolsma, Johnson, Borman

[ryan]

who's starting for pumas?

[billyfly]

Sportin' a new avatar. What you guys think?

[mowe]

Starting XI: Kocic; Henry, Harden, Iro, Morgan; de Guzman, Koevermans, Frings; Soolsma, Johnson, Borman

Interesting. I wonder why Winter left Dunfield on the bench. Maybe he liked how Johnson played as the lone striker against Columbus and wanted to try something new with Koevermans at the 10.

Can't wait for the game!

[flatpicker]

there will be a concacaf stream

Nice... just registered on the site.

I like free!

[nxtmike]

idk complete Startin XI yet, but Pumas fielding much of their A-team, including Palencia and Bravo. Palencia is the equivalent of what De Rosario was to us.

[nxtmike]

Complete Pumas Starting XI: 13 Patiño, 4 Verón, 2 Velarde, 14 Fuentes, 38 Ramírez, 8 Cabrera, 5 De Buen, 18 Orrantia, 17 Palencia, 7 Cortés, 10 Bravo

[Nicholas982]

Nice... just registered on the site.

I like free!


I got it all cued up and ready to go, just gotta hit "play" at 20:00. Busy getting a couple rolled up, one for each half. :D

[flatpicker]

Complete Pumas Starting XI: 13 Patiño, 4 Verón, 2 Velarde, 14 Fuentes, 38 Ramírez, 8 Cabrera, 5 De Buen, 18 Orrantia, 17 Palencia, 7 Cortés, 10 Bravo


That honestly means nothing to me.

Is that a good line-up?

[DichioTFC]

idk complete Startin XI yet, but Pumas fielding much of their A-team, including Palencia and Bravo. Palencia is the equivalent of what De Rosario was to us.

Greedy, ungrateful d-bag?

Thats right, I went there :hump:

[Brooker]

Warn the parking lot attendant of flying objects.

[117]

Thinking back to the feeling I had watching TFC go up 2-nil on Cruz Azul, and realizing anything is possible. Would love a little of that tonight!!

COME ON YOU REEEEEEEDS!!!

[Blazer]

Where can I stream this game? Anyone?

[Dkolish3]

Where can I stream this game? Anyone?
http://www.oleoletv.com/watch/live/stream/online/free/tv/video/channel/feed/link/broadcast/vivo/gratis/p2p/4/september/15/2011/10/38/v-303969/pumas-unam-toronto-fc-.html

spanish

[Suds]

Where can I stream this game? Anyone?

only one I've found so far .. in Spanish

http://myp2p.bz/livesports.php

[nxtmike]

That honestly means nothing to me.

Is that a good line-up?

That's their A-Team

They fielded their B-team against Dallas and Real Esteli.

[mowe]

Where can I stream this game? Anyone?


There is a high-quality legal stream available on concacaf.com. You just have to sign up for a (free) account first.

[Blazer]

Thanks guys! Enjoy the match!

[gtaguy]

Im gonna miss plata tonight.. hope the rest of the team can pick up the slack.. lets go reds!!!

[nascarguy]

justin tv has some feeds

[gtaguy]

http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/www.cqcfutbol.eu/ch1.html

http://www.usagoals.com/live/18574-unam-vs-toronto/watch/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/en/vivo/tv/gratis/


heres my offering to the tfc faithful.. watching futbol in spanish is more exciting then english commentary.. enjoy the game boys.

[Crazy Canuck]

concacaf is running, sign up is required

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/forcelogin/WatchLiveEvent/0,,12907~671367,00.html