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__wowza
07-25-2011, 11:47 AM
in an attempt to lighten up mood of the the board im starting up a poll to find the ultimate TFC roster from the past 5 years of players both past and present. the poll results are going to be hidden until sunday when i'll post up an infographic with the results.

you can vote for as many players as you want and the criteria is based on whatever you'd like to vote for. if you hated the way a certain player played for us, but think they've gotten much better since leaving (as seems to be the case) or, if you feel that you can vote for a player based on a standout season, by all means vote for them.

you can reveal who you voted for and why below. if you feel the need to shit on someones choices, i'd like to recommend you stay away from commenting. you can discuss and debate choice over why you chose differently from someone else, but try and keep it light-hearted.

it's just for fun, so try stray away from the inevitable negativity that most threads veer towards when discussing present/past players. i'm going to be posting this around other TFC forums, so hopefully we can get a comprehensive supporters outlook on this.




i look forward to seeing the results!!

:scarf:

__wowza
07-25-2011, 11:58 AM
sorry it's out of order at the end. the wiki article didn't have players we'd just picked up.

Gazza
07-25-2011, 12:03 PM
I'm humming the 11 De Ro's song as we speak.

I'm at 8 De Ro's...might end with Stefan Frei to mix things up.

Reg_Sims
07-25-2011, 12:20 PM
My Best Eleven
4-4-2 Formation

------------------------FREI-------------------------
----WYNNE----BRENNAN---MARSHALL----DUNVIANT---
----------------------FRINGS------------------------
-------------GUEVERA---------ROBINSON-------------
------------------------DERO------------------------
----------KOVERMANS-------------DICHIO------------

Wull
07-25-2011, 12:24 PM
Frei
Brennan
Cann
Attakora
Eckersley
Guevara
Robbo
Frings
Edu
Koevermans
De Rosario

Frings, Koevermans and Eckersley get there mainly on reputation or with less appearances than the others but I think if they hang around long enough they'll justify inclusion

Red Skies At Night
07-25-2011, 12:32 PM
I went with a 4-3-3 (just for the hell of it)...

Starting 11 with 7 subs:

Frei
Ecks, Iro, Marshall, Brennan
Ronnie O, Frings, Gueverra
DeRo Koevermans Cunny

Subs: Sutton, Viator, Serioux, Robbo, Edu, Dichio, Santos

Not sure how much defence you'd get out of that lot, but we should score some goals, lol...

icecoldbeer
07-25-2011, 12:54 PM
------------------------frei-------------------------
----attakora----cann---tebily----serioux---
---------------frings-------jdg-------------------
-------------guevera---------edu-------------
------------------------dero------------------------
-------------------buddle--------------------------

Menelaos
07-25-2011, 01:09 PM
------------------------frei-------------------------
------ecks------cann-----serioux-----brennan-----
----------------------frings------------------------
-------------guevera---------robinson-------------
------------------------dero------------------------
----------kovermans-------------dichio------------

cherono
07-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Frei
Ecks--Wynne--Cann--Dunivant
Frings---Guevera
Vitti--DeRo--Ronnie O
Sir Danny Dichio

(4-2-3-1)

Not sure how Vitti cracked my starting 11, but if he was on song with this line up playing well around him I think he'd be an asset.

Subs: Koevs, Robbo, Edu, Brennan, Plata, Sutton, JDG

ag futbol
07-25-2011, 01:17 PM
-----------------Frei---------------------------
---Eck----------Cann-------Marshall--------Serioux
---------Nagamura-----------Frings--------------
-------------------Guevara--------------------
Buddle--------Koevermans-----------------Dero

The left back spot was a tough one because everyone who has played there was junk (yes that includes the guy on the wall of honor who couldn't mark a pylon).

ag futbol
07-25-2011, 01:19 PM
[quote=cherono]
Not sure how Vitti cracked my starting 11, but if he was on song with this line up playing well around him I think he'd be an asset.
/quote]
I don't blame you ... those wide spots were hard ones to fill. Mostly guys who could play centrally but squeeze out wide.

I almost put Lindsay on the field. It really is too bad about the knee injury, best crosser in five years hands down.

__wowza
07-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Not sure how Vitti cracked my starting 11, but if he was on song with this line up playing well around him I think he'd be an asset.


i was, and still am a vitti fan. i thought that the league was a bit too physical for a player like him, i see shades of him in plata when he tries to take on the defense instead of passing it.. only to get knocked completely off the ball by someone bigger than he is.

its kinda like watching mighty mouse try his luck in a mosh pit.


case and point, in the pervuian league, hes managed 17 goals in 36 games wheras he scored 2 for 32 in the MLS.

__wowza
07-25-2011, 01:58 PM
http://this11.com/boards/1311620142634039.jpg

4 - 5 - 1 the bird of prey!!
if the french national team could do it with henry, so can we!! :D

SUBS
G: sutton
D: brennan
M: robinson
W: plata
F: koevermans

TFC07
07-25-2011, 03:07 PM
Goalkeeper : Frei

No surprises here.

Defenders: Eckersely-------Nana------Cann-------Jimmy B

Eckersely: Best RB we ever had. Wynne was quick and athletic but he can't cross for shit and can't mark his man (bad positioning)

Nana and Cann: CB has always been a weak link for us. These two didn't have to do much to be consider the best CB's in young TFC history. Also, credit to Perki's defensive system that made these two look good and flawless.

Jimmy B: Dunivant was more used as a Left winger than a LB in Toronto. Again, LB and defending in general has been a weak spot for us. So default, Jimmy B is our best LB so far.

Mid:
------------------------Frings-------------------------
----------Guevara---------------Robert----------------
------------------------DeRo-------------------------

Frings: He is what you except from a quality DM! tackles, links up play, reads the game (anticipated plays before it happens) and leads the mid. Robertson, Edu and JDG can't do all those things.

Robert: He was our best winger even though he was a lazy fuck. When he's motivated, he provided a lot of quality crosses and his free kicks were deadly. No other winger has been better than Robert (before he got lazy). Ryan Johnson might be closet thing, but he's more a forward (wide left forward) IMO.

Guevara and DeRo: Best players ever to play for TFC so far! Very skilled and can create for others (especially Guevara) and DeRo can score tons of goals while Guevara can provide tons of assists.


Forwards: --------------Dichio-----------Cunny-------------

Dichio: He was heart and soul of TFC and managed to provide a lot of memorable goals and he seem to read the game well. He simply knew how to play football.

Cunny: Before he got hurt, he was playing well with Dichio and scored couple of goals even (we used to refer them as "fast and furious"). He's up there mainly for tactical purposes. You can't have two target man players starting up front. No other non-target forward during their time in Toronto have provided goals like pre-injury Cunny has.

boysblue
07-25-2011, 03:15 PM
i can only have six of those players on my team. what a fuckin' travesty this organization has been thus far.

nonetheless, i encourage all supporters to continue buying tickets, beer and merchandise. oh, and remember lads.....all for one.

Yohan
07-25-2011, 03:16 PM
-----------------Frei---------------------------
---Eck----------Cann-------Marshall--------Serioux
---------Nagamura-----------Frings--------------
-------------------Guevara--------------------
Buddle--------Koevermans-----------------Dero

The left back spot was a tough one because everyone who has played there was junk (yes that includes the guy on the wall of honor who couldn't mark a pylon).you dont rate todd dunivant?

TFC07
07-25-2011, 03:20 PM
-----------------Frei---------------------------
---Eck----------Cann-------Marshall--------Serioux
---------Nagamura-----------Frings--------------
-------------------Guevara--------------------
Buddle--------Koevermans-----------------Dero

The left back spot was a tough one because everyone who has played there was junk (yes that includes the guy on the wall of honor who couldn't mark a pylon).

Serioux wasn't much better on the left either, but I rated Jimmy B because he was able to make overruns and sometimes deliver the ball into the box. Serioux couldn't do that (not that he played much as a LB in Toronto).

trane
07-25-2011, 04:21 PM
Ekersley------Nana/Cann-----Tebliy----------Dunivant
------------JDG------Frings---------Edu-------------
----------------------De Ro--------------------------
-------------Dichio-----------Kovermens-----------

I just put the best we have had at each position and lined them up in something that could work. Dunivant was not spetacular but solid. Ekersly was the best at RB. Tebliy was the best we have had although he played so little for us. Nana/Cann both solid for us, they could be the more physical CB, with Tebliy moving the ball forward. JDG, Frings and Edu are the best three mids we have had, Guevarra may have been more skilled but I would leave him on the bench. De Ro clearly the best SS/AM we have ever had Dichio and Kovermans clearly the best CF we have had, Ali Gerba could have been had he been used properly.

nickio
07-25-2011, 04:34 PM
Meanwhile we can brag a bit about our midfield, it's sad that Nana and Cann are arguably our best CBs.
-----------------Frei---------------------------
---Eck----------Attakora-------Cann------Brennan
---------JDG-----------------Frings--------------
-------------------Guevara--------------------
Plata--------Koevermans-----------------Dero

Empirical
07-25-2011, 05:34 PM
Elkinson is missing. One of the best leftbacks that ever wore TFC red.

ag futbol
07-25-2011, 06:04 PM
Serioux wasn't much better on the left either, but I rated Jimmy B because he was able to make overruns and sometimes deliver the ball into the box. Serioux couldn't do that (not that he played much as a LB in Toronto).
Yeah, I'll admit Serioux wasn't much really. Brennan just bothered me in so many dimensions I could never rate him as a player. I'd search out someone else first, even if they were a stay-at-home left back.




you dont rate todd dunivant?
Good point, I did lose him in the shuffle. I think his goal against Villa stands as the best in team history personally.

Shakes McQueen
07-25-2011, 06:07 PM
I picked Rick Titus 11 times.

- Scott

ArmenJBX
07-25-2011, 06:18 PM
Starting XI
http://this11.com/boards/1311635657698120.jpg

Substitutes
http://this11.com/boards/1311635810794307.jpg

Shakes McQueen
07-25-2011, 06:20 PM
A guy who hasn't even played for us yet makes your "ultimate" TFC sub list?

- Scott

ArmenJBX
07-25-2011, 06:22 PM
A guy who hasn't even played for us yet makes your "ultimate" TFC sub list?

- Scott

Watching Vancouver, Dunfield is a class above a lot of midfielders we've ever had.

Although, looking back, perhaps Vitti is wrong, Barrett should have that spot.

ochos
07-25-2011, 06:36 PM
Frei
Eckersley-Cann-Tibily-Brennan
Edu-Frings
Plata-Guevara-Dero
Koevermans

TFC_PB
07-25-2011, 06:38 PM
------------------------EDWARDS-------------------------
----CRONIN----CRONIN----CRONIN---- CRONIN---
----------------------BUDDLE------------------------
-------------ROBINSON----------CRONIN--------------
------------------------ CRONIN-------------------------
---------- CRONIN--------------CRONIN------------


I hope this doesn't appear biased or anything.

MartinUtd
07-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Here's my starting 11

-------------Koevermans------------
------------------DeRo--------------
RonnieO--------Guevara----------Plata
-----------------Frings--------------
Dunivant---Tebily---Attakora---Eckersley
---------------Frei--------------------


Here's my last 11:

----------Ruiz---Lombardo-----------
-------------------------------------
Johan Smith--Harmse--Nane--Peterson
-------------------------------------
Hščanovičs---Braz----Velez----Usanov
-------------Edwards---------------

TFC1154ever
07-25-2011, 08:11 PM
For the few people that don't have Guevara on there lists, what were you watching?

Mexinese
07-25-2011, 11:09 PM
------------------------Conway-------------------------
------ecks------cann-----Labrocca-----Nana Attakora-----
----------------------frings------------------------
-------------guevera---------Gargan-------------
------------------------Mista------------------------
----------kovermans-------------Casey------------

MartinUtd
07-26-2011, 01:11 AM
Casey...really? He practised with the team for a week and fucked off to Denver.

los sonadores
07-26-2011, 04:23 AM
-----------Frei------------
Ecks---Iro---Marshall---Serioux
---Frings-----Edu---
-------Guevara-----
Casey---Koevermans---Robert

That would be the Guevara and Robert of a few years ago, of course... Robert of the first two games before he realized the team was shit and the turf even worse.
Guevera and Dero never clicked - think it's got to be one or the other.

Oldtimer
07-26-2011, 06:41 AM
i voted for my worst 11, just for kicks.

Yohan
07-26-2011, 09:51 AM
------------------Frei
-Eckerskey-Cann-Marshall-Dunivant
----------------Frings
----------Guevara--DeRosario
---O'Brien--------------------Robert
----------------Dichio

Subs
Sutton
Tebily
Attakora
Plata
Robinson
Barrett
Santos

ag futbol
07-26-2011, 09:51 AM
You can't make a "worst 11" without Diaz Kambere.

Easily the worst player I have ever seen take the field for us. Couldn't complete a pass if his life depended on it. Played the game like a Timbit soccer kid, running around with his head down thrashing at the ball and dribbling into nowhere.

Wolfe
07-26-2011, 08:10 PM
My "Best While with TFC Starting 11"

--------------------Frei---------------------
---Eckersley--Marshall--Attakora--Brennan---
-----Edu-------Robinson------De Guzman----
------Guevara-----Dichio-----De Rosario-----


My "Best Potential Starting 11"

---------------------Frei--------------------
---Omphroy--Eckersley--Attakora--Morgan---
--------Edu---------Cronin------Tchani-----
--------Ricketts-----White-----Plata--------


My "Most Sentimental Starting 11"

--------------------Frei---------------------
---Attakora---Marshall---Cann---Brennan----
-------Frings-----Robinson----De Guzman----
------Guevara-----Dichio-----De Rosario-----



My "I wish it Happened Starting 11"

--------------------Frei--------------------
---Eckersley--Attakora--Serioux--Brennan---
------Guevara-----Frings-----De Guzman----
------Casey-------Dichio-----De Rosario-----


:scarf::scarf::scarf::scarf:

prizby
07-26-2011, 10:05 PM
Frei
Eckersley-Williams-Cann-Brennan
----------Frings----Edu--------
Plata-------Guevara---Stevanovic
------------Koevermans--------

__wowza
07-27-2011, 08:17 AM
wolfe, think you covered all the bases? ;)

zeelaw
07-27-2011, 09:10 AM
------------------------Conway-------------------------
------ecks------cann-----Labrocca-----Nana Attakora-----
----------------------frings------------------------
-------------guevera---------Gargan-------------
------------------------Mista------------------------
----------kovermans-------------Casey------------
:picard:

Menelaos
07-27-2011, 09:15 AM
Seriously, no Gracia fans?

Wolfe
07-27-2011, 08:04 PM
I had a few more but I hit submit instead of preview and then said fuck it

__wowza
07-28-2011, 10:06 AM
im happy to say that across all of the TFC boards i could get at, we're currently bordering on 180 votes. should be an honest representation of what the fans think :D

EDIT: except for oldtimer's votes. i cant view who he voted for but when i think "seriously? who the fuck would vote for _______" i can immediately identify that i was him.

TOBOR !
07-28-2011, 09:04 PM
Frei
Eckersley-Braz-Reda-Wynne
Frings
Dero-Guevara
Dichio
Plata

Harmse (sent off)

TOBOR !
07-28-2011, 09:08 PM
.. and can someone clear up the abdus/abbe ibrahim duality for me ? are they the same guy, or is abdus the player we got from Dallas but never turned up, and abbe was some other kid we drafted ?

cherono
10-30-2017, 09:32 PM
Watching the team this season, I'd occasionally remember names from this thread. Firstly, kudos to _wowza for the thorough diligence (Allando Matheson? lol).

Serious question though, assuming for the form or potential any of these players were in while they were in Toronto, would any of them crack our current first 15 or so? That is, Frings while he was here, not a 2006 vintage for example.

Potentially just Frei and Dero?

Initial B
10-31-2017, 07:33 AM
Someone should make a new list. I'd probably add Steven Caldwell, Seba, Jozy, MB, Victor Vasquez, Julio Cesar and maybe even Jermain Defoe.

My best right now:
----------------Cesar----------------
Beitashour-Moor-Caldwell-Morrow
-----------Frings---Bradley---------
---------------Vasquez--------------
Koevermanns--Altidore---Giovinco

Bench: DeRo, Defoe, Guevara, Frei, Plata, Robinson, Ricketts/Wynne?

I wish I could put Guevara, but Vasquez has taken his spot in my mind. I could also be convinced to replace Koevermanns with DeRo.