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justin
07-23-2011, 07:00 PM
Match thread here, any streams yet?

edit: damn it...i was sure the match started at 8

pyppurs
07-23-2011, 07:13 PM
8:30 pm

TFCmatty
07-23-2011, 07:14 PM
anyone have a stream?

LesH
07-23-2011, 07:20 PM
I need to go to a b-day party, beginning at 8:30 PM., but I'm gonna stay only 1 hour, and I'll catch back home the last maybe 15 minutes of this game.

When I'll open the stream better be TFC leading or in a worst case scenario a draw, because otherwise I won't watch, lol (just kidding of course, I would watch even if a big time shitshow)

Brooker
07-23-2011, 07:22 PM
try this in a bit http://sports-billet.eu/channel1.html

http://www.soccertvlive.net/watch/74680/1/watch-kansas-city-vs-toronto-fc.html

might work, too.

swan
07-23-2011, 07:26 PM
gol tv is free for this game for you all living in ontario might not have to watch it on a stream..

Brooker
07-23-2011, 07:30 PM
gol tv is free for this game for you all living in ontario might not have to watch it on a stream..


not sure about that one. doesnt work here.

swan
07-23-2011, 07:31 PM
np.. unfortunately i don't get it so i have to watch it on my PC..


there was a thread about it being free right now i believe..

swan
07-23-2011, 07:36 PM
it's on the tfc site free from the 18th to the 29th..

TFCmatty
07-23-2011, 07:36 PM
i cant, for the life of me, find a stream for this one :S

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:37 PM
that's a pretty attack minded line up

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:37 PM
Playing Santos at right mid is a mistake.

justin
07-23-2011, 07:39 PM
haven't found streams yet here

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Playing Santos at right mid is a mistake.
He's not actually going to be right mid

Frings and Zavaresie will be defensive mids and Santo will be attacking

Point froward formation

ExiledRed
07-23-2011, 07:39 PM
it's on the tfc site free from the 18th to the 29th..

It says it is, but it doesnt link to a stream

swan
07-23-2011, 07:40 PM
whats with this line up in the back 4 why not just play everyone in their proper positions..

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:41 PM
whats with this line up in the back 4 why not just play everyone in their proper positions..
I agree....good question and one that might bite Winter in the ASS if we lose

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:41 PM
damn it almost koevermans

Krasno.pL.
07-23-2011, 07:41 PM
FUCK KOeVERMON lol

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:42 PM
Only TFC could miss from 5 feet out

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:42 PM
Fuck me........Koev shoulda buried that

123 elite
07-23-2011, 07:42 PM
ooooooooooo

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:42 PM
Great lead up play though

swan
07-23-2011, 07:42 PM
oh so close

swan
07-23-2011, 07:43 PM
great save from the keeper to bad

TFC1154ever
07-23-2011, 07:43 PM
Anyone streams?!?!?!

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:43 PM
Frings is the best player by far TFC has ever had. Every time he touches the ball, he's pure quality, and he's not even match fit.

Greg
07-23-2011, 07:43 PM
Haven't found a stream yet...

cherono
07-23-2011, 07:44 PM
Glad to see Yourass getting the start at LB - I think he's got a better delivery than Borman.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:44 PM
Wow...how can the ref not call that

MarkoftheDrink
07-23-2011, 07:44 PM
Fucking Roger's POS, freeview my ass. All I have is a black screen and Roger's says they'll fix it in 48 hours. Fuck.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:44 PM
------------------------Frei----------------------
Viator------Eckersley----------Iro----Yourassowsky
----------------------Frings----------------------
----------Santos--------------Zavarise-----------
Soolsma----------------------------------Johnson
--------------------Koevermans-------------------

PopePouri
07-23-2011, 07:45 PM
Already Yourass shows why he's a decent LB. Keep him there FFS.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:46 PM
;1346543']
------------------------Frei----------------------
Viator------Eckersley----------Iro----Yourassowsky
----------------------Frings----------------------
----------Santos--------------Zavarise-----------
Soolsma----------------------------------Johnson
--------------------Koevermans-------------------

I would like to see Santos and Johnson switch places, it just makes sense.:rolleyes:

colman1860
07-23-2011, 07:46 PM
Working streams?

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:47 PM
Already Yourass shows why he's a decent LB. Keep him there FFS.

+1...

Krasno.pL.
07-23-2011, 07:47 PM
OHHH myy GOOODNESSSS

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:47 PM
Koovermans, your a DP, score.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:48 PM
koevermans:deadhorse:

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:48 PM
Yikes......what a pass from Frings and KOEV.......come on boy

123 elite
07-23-2011, 07:48 PM
double ooooo

swan
07-23-2011, 07:48 PM
+1...

+2 rather him then borman

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:49 PM
Do you guys hear the trumpet guy in the background noise, he is leading the chant with his trumpet, thats not a bad idea to get everyone on point.

Blixa
07-23-2011, 07:49 PM
fuck, I need a stream.... i get the feeling we'll win this...

justin
07-23-2011, 07:50 PM
i wonder why it's proven so much harder this season to find streams :(

Smuttynose
07-23-2011, 07:51 PM
http://www.fan590.com/
audio only, can't find vid

123 elite
07-23-2011, 07:52 PM
frrrreeeeeeeiiiiiiii

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
fuck, I need a stream.... i get the feeling we'll win this...
They are playing with a 3-4-3 and we are playing with a 4-3-3. I don't know if we will win but Koevermans will get some chances if we play more direct and play through balls for Koevermans. (According to my fm tactics):)

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
i wonder why it's proven so much harder this season to find streams :(
They want people to pay to watch...


Holy FREI

Flipityflu
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
i wonder why it's proven so much harder this season to find streams :(


cbc streamed themselves, so alot of the time, you didn't have to look.

swan
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
http://livetv.ru/en/allupcomingsports/1/

try in there i saw one i never checked to see if it worked

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
Johnson is playing great

cherono
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
Frei! Huge double save.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:54 PM
We look freakin dangerous

CRAZY

123 elite
07-23-2011, 07:54 PM
saaaaannnntttooosss. jesus. speed up man

A.J
07-23-2011, 07:54 PM
http://livetv.ru/en/allupcomingsports/1/

try in there i saw one i never checked to see if it worked

nope

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 07:55 PM
Great defensive play by Frings.....2 CB's watching and Yourass hanging to far out on the left

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 07:56 PM
I like how Frings isnt afraid to point out his teammates mistakes to them. It carries more weight when you're the best player on the team by a mile.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 07:57 PM
What a fucking dangerous elbow

Donald Duck
07-23-2011, 07:58 PM
http://sports-billet.eu/channel1.html

working now..... YES~!!!!

A.J
07-23-2011, 07:58 PM
http://sports-billet.eu/channel1.html

working now..... YES~!!!!

I LOVE YOU!

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:00 PM
Viator has some leaping capabilities:)

Flipityflu
07-23-2011, 08:00 PM
nice cheers

cherono
07-23-2011, 08:01 PM
Viator's looking more composed than Wednesday too.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:02 PM
Whos the goalkeeper for the Sporting KFC is he Zavarise's older brother?

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:02 PM
Frings is freaking everywhere

justin
07-23-2011, 08:02 PM
http://sports-billet.eu/channel1.html

working now..... YES~!!!!

wtf~! not working for me!


nvm, success!

TFC1154ever
07-23-2011, 08:03 PM
I LOVE YOU!

Me 2!

Raging Reggie
07-23-2011, 08:03 PM
nice link thanks...

PAOK17
07-23-2011, 08:04 PM
^^lol not working for me haha

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:04 PM
Raging Reggie---nice avatar.

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:05 PM
http://sports-billet.eu/channel1.html

working now..... YES~!!!!
You da man!

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:05 PM
That is MLS reffing at it's finest....soolsma gets the ball first, is fouled and the ball goes out but ref says play on giving KC the throw in........frustrating

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:06 PM
Damn it Kei Kamara, ex-kkkrew

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
HOLY FUCK......why do all MLS teams get highlight reel.....career best goals against us?

cherono
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
Oh, he can dance now, eh?

A.J
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
That's some kung fu shit right there

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
That was sad defending.

Banjax
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
for a man who was dead 2 minutes ago that was impressive

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
That's a tough one.

Well end story is the same, this team needs to find some goals.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:07 PM
;1346586']Damn it Kei Kamara, ex-kkkrew
Ya....and wasn't he just dead on the field like 3 seconds ago

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:09 PM
That's a tough one.

Well end story is the same, this team needs to find some goals.

Yeah, not much you can do about a goal like that - we just need to score some of our own.

- Scott

lobo
07-23-2011, 08:09 PM
shoulda been keeper's ball .. santos bad touch gives it away

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:09 PM
Fuck this ref

Doesn't call it then changes his mind ...... oooohhh and now he pulls a yellow out

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:10 PM
I've noticed that alot of teams are playing 3-4-3 or 3-5-2, or 3-4-1-2 against us. I know Seattle, Sporting KFC, RSL, and Houston definitely played us like that. We lost each one.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:11 PM
Boooooooo Frei Was Awful On That

Boooooooo!

justin
07-23-2011, 08:11 PM
so our defense is still terrible

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 08:11 PM
2-0 SKC. This is what happens when you don't bury your chances TFC.

lobo
07-23-2011, 08:11 PM
seriously?!?!?!?!

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:12 PM
http://www.firenuggets.com/barlogio10.jpg

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:12 PM
;1346597']I've noticed that alot of teams are playing 3-4-3 or 3-5-2, or 3-4-1-2 against us. I know Seattle, Sporting KFC, RSL, and Houston definitely played us like that. We lost each one.

All they are doing is putting pressure on the midfield.

Dkolish3
07-23-2011, 08:12 PM
and that's all folks. :drinking::drinking:

cherono
07-23-2011, 08:12 PM
Shocking defending.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:12 PM
And barring a miracle......it would appear that the spankings continue

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:13 PM
Fuck me.

I love santos but he's irritating the shit out of me.

He's good but not good enough to be a one footed player.

He needs to wake up that right foot that he uses like a kick stand.

Frei looks off tonight.

Koevermans has to score on his chances.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:13 PM
http://www.firenuggets.com/barlogio10.jpg

You had this queued....L-O-L.:D

123 elite
07-23-2011, 08:13 PM
wa wa wa

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
1) Santos defends like a 6 year old
2) maybe were just scared to play in shiny new stadiums ( new York the sequel)
3) they just scored

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
3-0 they gave up

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
And the shitstorm continues

Flipityflu
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
geez

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
And Frei is hurt

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
3-0. Goal came directly from Santos trying to dribble around 2 opposing players in the center circle instead of passing it.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
Take out Frei......He was at fault.

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:16 PM
That goal was purely Iro's fault.

Batman
07-23-2011, 08:16 PM
holy crap.. time to do something else..this really is a total waste of time

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:16 PM
Santos loses the ball because Zavarise is doing F'all to get into space and then everyone plays the lazy offside instead of covering their man. WOW

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:16 PM
I'd love to know how to nip this tendency to fold after the first goal in the bud. It's pathetic how they just give up.

- Scott

Banjax
07-23-2011, 08:16 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/14jrucx.jpg

MG42
07-23-2011, 08:16 PM
http://oemrecycledparts.com/images/dogpoop.jpg

SirBobSaget
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
I wonder if these losers feel ashamed taking paychecks.

123 elite
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
over and out

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
Deja vu of the NYRB game.

Started well.

Concede and fall apart

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
Love my Saturday nights.

Nicholas982
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
rofl

W......T...........F?!

Oh boy......I sometimes get the feeling we could import Barcelona's entire roster and we'd still suck.....:scarf:

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
They are singing our Home or away chant.....or is that our boys?

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:17 PM
Santos loses the ball because Zavarise is doing F'all to get into space and then everyone plays the lazy offside instead of covering their man. WOW
Well .. it would have worked if Iro wasn't so slow to pull up.

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:18 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/14jrucx.jpg

Thththththththththththththhats all folks!

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:19 PM
Deja vu of the NYRB game.

Started well.

C

Started well... got scored on... gave up. It's an ongoing pattern.

- Scott

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:19 PM
1-0 took a shower


came back and it's 3-0

lol


"we have to give them time"
"we are still a new team"
"even after 5 years"

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:20 PM
This will be very interesting now, lets see how much our big boys really are about the club, do they want to get stuck in?

Good for winter, save the boys for Wednesday, thats what I would do at least.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:20 PM
So the two glorious chances that we didn't convert in the first 10 minutes come back to haunt us! As bad as the defense has been, we cannot pin this solely on them. If we are up 2 after ten, the complexity of this game changes drastically.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:20 PM
3-5-2
---------------------Kosic----------------------
----------Viator-----Harden----Iro--------------
Eckersley------------Frings--------Yourassowsky
-------------Johnson------Zavarise-------------
-----------Koevermans----Santos---------------

pekduck
07-23-2011, 08:21 PM
Iro put Bravo on side when entire defensive line is moving up... damn it... freebie

2nd goal, no one marking Kamara, Zavrasie looked foolish...

1st goal, well... shit happens.

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:21 PM
tfc clap clap

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:21 PM
Fucking right!

Santos off. He's a fucking disinterested shit tonight.

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:21 PM
Well I guess we know who Winter thinks is at fault. But I'm puzzled why he thought Santos could slot in at mid in the first place.

SirBobSaget
07-23-2011, 08:21 PM
Strip the armband from Santos already.

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Its too soon to take out Santos, what a bad substitution.

ecospice
07-23-2011, 08:22 PM
;1346635']3-5-2
---------------------Kosic----------------------
----------Viator-----Harden----Iro--------------
Eckersley------------Frings--------Yourassowsky
-------------Johnson------Zavarise-------------
-----------Koevermans----Santos---------------

Santos is killing us. Winter'll take him off

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Fucking right!

Santos off. He's a fucking disinterested shit tonight.



careful how you call out the players cause people on here don't like that kind of talk!

<3

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Strip the armband from Santos already.
Consider it done......Winter has just said as much with this substitution

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 08:23 PM
I said IN PAGE ONE WHY ARE YOU PUTTING SANTOS IN THE MIDFIELD. I think Winter is an idiot. He just doesn't get it.

pekduck
07-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Santos is killing us. Winter'll take him off

yep.. he did

santos doesn't fit the team out there at the moment... he ball hogged it too much and killed all the flow... more than once...

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Well I guess we know who Winter thinks is at fault. But I'm puzzled why he thought Santos could slot in at mid in the first place.

Santos, in midfield is ridiculous. Stinson in the 43rd minute for Santos is just naive.

ecospice
07-23-2011, 08:24 PM
;1346641']Its too soon to take out Santos, what a bad substitution.

Santos cost us 2 goals.

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:24 PM
careful how you call out the players cause people on here don't like that kind of talk!

<3
I agree that was a terrible performance, but at the same time we've seen that level of crap from Santos in the midfield before. Why do we continue to give him chances to play there?

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:24 PM
At least he has the balls to make an early sub when somethings not working. But you know it's really sad when you make a sub in the 40th minute and it's already too late.

ecospice
07-23-2011, 08:25 PM
yep.. he did

santos doesn't fit the team out there at the moment... he ball hogged it too much and killed all the flow... more than once...

Who did he hand the arm band to?

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:25 PM
I said IN PAGE ONE WHY ARE YOU PUTTING SANTOS IN THE MIDFIELD. I think Winter is an idiot. He just doesn't get it.

I don't like him there either but take a look at the sub list and tell me what other option there was.

No plata
No Martina

All that's left is to show some Fucking heart

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:26 PM
I said IN PAGE ONE WHY ARE YOU PUTTING SANTOS IN THE MIDFIELD. I think Winter is an idiot. He just doesn't get it.
Not only that, but he switched up Viator and Ecks as opposed to playing them in their natural positions.

THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY PEOPLE QUESTION WINTER'S COACHING ABILITIES!

Great first 20.......and then the meltdown!

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:27 PM
yep.. he did

santos doesn't fit the team out there at the moment... he ball hogged it too much and killed all the flow... more than once...

The point is we dont need possesion , we need goals and by moving Santos to midfield you are asking of him to follow behind Koevermans to supplement Koevermans. Putting in Stinson for Santos is saying you want control and possesion and you are leaving Koevermans by himself to do it all.

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:27 PM
I agree that was a terrible performance, but at the same time we've seen that level of crap from Santos in the midfield before. Why do we continue to give him chances to play there?



I am joking cause 2 years ago i got banned about 5times for calling out the team and booing them at the games for piss poor results and was called "not being a true supporter"

sorry but as a season ticket holder in the bunker since day one I will say what I want and call the team out when I want...

Piss poor play and always fucking re-building shit!

wake up sheep!

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:28 PM
I said IN PAGE ONE WHY ARE YOU PUTTING SANTOS IN THE MIDFIELD. I think Winter is an idiot. He just doesn't get it.

Should be sturgis but besides him who else can slot there. Everyone is hurt or had travel issues.

moralis
07-23-2011, 08:29 PM
Message to TFC Players: PLAY WITH SOME FUCKIN HEART, Like Torsten Frings.

WINTER LAY INTO THE TEAM: PLAY WITH HEART

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:29 PM
I am joking cause 2 years ago i got banned about 5times for calling out the team and booing them at the games for piss poor results and was called "not being a true supporter"

sorry but as a season ticket holder in the bunker since day one I will say what I want and call the team out when I want...

Piss poor play and always fucking re-building shit!

wake up sheep!
No argument from me on that

mmmikey
07-23-2011, 08:29 PM
Not only that, but he switched up Viator and Ecks as opposed to playing them in their natural positions.

THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY PEOPLE QUESTION WINTER'S COACHING ABILITIES!

Great first 20.......and then the meltdown!

he is putting a mobile player who can handle the ball with Iro, rather than partnering 2 clumsier guys. all of the problems are occuring on the left side of defense, not from ecks/viator who are "out of position"

J .
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
Iro is making me look bad supporting him. He played the last goal on. Zavarise falling was the cause of the second goal and an example of SKC finishing their chances vs TFC not is why we are down 3-0.

There was one moment in the game where I enjoyed TFC playing and a part of me hoped it would continue, that maybe Winter was on to something. Then that dream was crushed.

At some point this team has to show some pride and stop losing by such massive margins. Is it the tactics? The players?

pekduck
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
;1346654']The point is we dont need possesion , we need goals and by moving Santos to midfield you are asking of him to follow behind Koevermans to supplement Koevermans. Putting in Stinson for Santos is saying you want control and possesion and you are leaving Koevermans by himself to do it all.

goals come from quick transition in midfield play to service forwards

look what Frings, Johson, Yourassowsky did to create chances for Koevemans for the first 2 chances

then look Santos hogs it and lose possession time after time in the midfield and have all spaces created by movements wasted as KC defense is back in shape

this sub is to create service for Koevemans really

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
I am joking cause 2 years ago i got banned about 5times for calling out the team and booing them at the games for piss poor results and was called "not being a true supporter"

sorry but as a season ticket holder in the bunker since day one I will say what I want and call the team out when I want...

Piss poor play and always fucking re-building shit!

wake up sheep!
I think before you start calling everyone sheep, you need to answer what the hell you are eating in that picture in you profile. Is that soap or cheese? WTF?

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
I am joking cause 2 years ago i got banned about 5times for calling out the team and booing them at the games for piss poor results and was called "not being a true supporter"

sorry but as a season ticket holder in the bunker since day one I will say what I want and call the team out when I want...

Piss poor play and always fucking re-building shit!

wake up sheep!

As was explained to you repeatedly in the past, you got banned for how you communicated your thoughts, not for "calling out the team". There are several people on this forum that mercilessly criticize the team, but have never been banned.

- Scott

SirBobSaget
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
TFC isn't the only team having a bad night, Phi and DC are also down 2 goals to their opponents (Ream Madrid and Everton respectively).

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
he is putting a mobile player who can handle the ball with Iro, rather than partnering 2 clumsier guys. all of the problems are occuring on the left side of defense, not from ecks/viator who are "out of position"
Viator looks out of position any time he's on the field. Someone might want to tell him challenging with two feet = no no

flatpicker
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
So, I just tuned in... shocked by the score.

Skimming through the above comments, people seem to have an issue with Santos tonight.
Besides that, how has the team looked in the first half?
How are the new boys doing?

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:31 PM
Fuck meltdowns in the 75th minute, that's soooo expansion team.

In year 5 we do it right! Meltdown after 25!!

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:31 PM
No argument from me on that


Ah yes but the elite think otherwise over here!



we will be 10years in this leauge and still use the "re-buliding" shit talk!

Toronto fans always get the shaft!

Vince Whirlwind
07-23-2011, 08:32 PM
he is putting a mobile player who can handle the ball with Iro, rather than partnering 2 clumsier guys. all of the problems are occuring on the left side of defense, not from ecks/viator who are "out of position"


Agree - Ecks is the only player we have back there suited for this "system" (or whatever you want to call it).

Getting tired of watching Yourass bungle 5 ft passes...

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:32 PM
Fuck meltdowns in the 75th minute, that's soooo expansion team.

In year 5 we do it right! Meltdown after 25!!


lol nice!

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:33 PM
he is putting a mobile player who can handle the ball with Iro, rather than partnering 2 clumsier guys. all of the problems are occuring on the left side of defense, not from ecks/viator who are "out of position"
If you really watch, you will find Ecks going instinctively towards the right. He catches himself but he too is out of position. When Frings came back to head the ball to FREI the whole back line was not where they should have been with the exception of Viator. It's neither here nor there really and while i don't disagree, totally, with what you are saying, I do feel that most people will see these decisions as costly.

ArmenJBX
07-23-2011, 08:33 PM
:scarf::scarf:Toronto Fail Club:scarf::scarf:

mmmikey
07-23-2011, 08:33 PM
Viator looks out of position any time he's on the field. Someone might want to tell him challenging with two feet = no no

i meant being played out of their natural position. this formation needs better FB's than we have.

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 08:35 PM
The only thing worse than the game so far is GOLTV's stupid interview with Soolsma. "What's your favorite animal? favorite color? come on...

C_R
07-23-2011, 08:35 PM
I think we're playing really well.

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:36 PM
The only thing worse than the game so far is GOLTV's stupid interview with Soolsma. "What's your favorite animal? favorite color? come on...


Yea I was like wtf?

only when you think it can't get any worse........

flatpicker
07-23-2011, 08:36 PM
The only thing worse than the game so far is GOLTV's stupid interview with Soolsma. "What's your favorite animal? favorite color? come on...

No kidding eh.

I switched over to Uncle Buck when she asked those questions.

mmmikey
07-23-2011, 08:36 PM
If you really watch, you will find Ecks going instinctively towards the right. He catches himself but he too is out of position. When Frings came back to head the ball to FREI the whole back line was not where they should have been with the exception of Viator. It's neither here nor there really and while i don't disagree, totally, with what you are saying, I do feel that most people will see these decisions as costly.

no argument with the whole back line getting out of whack. just saying i see what the thinking is. i don't believe the d would be any better with the reverse. just think instead we would see more 1 on 1's after silly give aways from cb's instead. :(

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Santos is a bench player (backup centre forward)! We need an attacking mid desperately. That is our biggest need right now. CB and starting LB are another holes we need to fill as well.

We started off great, but.....:facepalm:

ecospice
07-23-2011, 08:37 PM
I cannot believe that I am watching cfl and flipping to TFC...ugh!

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:37 PM
No kidding eh.

I switched over to Uncle Buck when she asked those questions.



MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm

pancakes!!!!

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:37 PM
goals come from quick transition in midfield play to service forwards

look what Frings, Johson, Yourassowsky did to create chances for Koevemans for the first 2 chances

then look Santos hogs it and lose possession time after time in the midfield and have all spaces created by movements wasted as KC defense is back in shape

this sub is to create service for Koevemans really

We're out numbered in midfield, 4 to 3 (in a 3-4-3 vs 4-3-3 battle), and we had Santos, a striker playing midfield, you might as well have had Sturgis in the lineup.

You think that removing Santos and subbing in Stinson will create better service for Koevermans? Why not move Johnson from the left winger position to Midfield where Santos was playing and playing Santos as a left winger. Considering we would have 3 strikers vs 3 defenders dont you want players that can score and are good on the ball playing 1 on 1 vs defenders?

Vince Whirlwind
07-23-2011, 08:38 PM
What do you reckon the scoreline would be if we were in against Man U in that World Footie B.S. tourney?

Sounders lost big...I'd imagine 10-0 could be entirely possible.

ecospice
07-23-2011, 08:38 PM
No kidding eh.

I switched over to Uncle Buck when she asked those questions.

Andi is cute, at least.

ArmenJBX
07-23-2011, 08:38 PM
Our Goalie is in the wrong shirt.
Our right-back is a farce
Our centerbacks a KKKrew and a fullback.
Our left-back knows fuckall about soccer.
Our Defensive midfielder is packing his backs for Germany already, the other is a joke.
Our attacking brazilian is as unbrazilian as they come.
Our wingers have no fire, and Koevermans has no supply.

Toronto Football Club is simply gunna die.

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:38 PM
What happened to Martina? Is he injured?

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:39 PM
I cannot believe that I am watching cfl and flipping to TFC...ugh!

Same here. I'll keep a lazy eye on the game in case TFC grows a heart and fights back, but otherwise I'm not gracing them with my contribution to the ratings.

I don't know if TFC needs more trades, as much as it needs an exorcism.

- Scott

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:39 PM
What do you reckon the scoreline would be if we were in against Man U in that World Footie B.S. tourney?

Sounders lost big...I'd imagine 10-0 could be entirely possible.


even fergie would be in on the goals!!!

id rather watch him chew his gum all game!

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:39 PM
So, I just tuned in... shocked by the score.

Skimming through the above comments, people seem to have an issue with Santos tonight.
Besides that, how has the team looked in the first half?
How are the new boys doing?

We started off really well.

Koevermans had a tap in from the six and the KC keeper made a desperation save that worked out.

Then Koeverman took a nice flick overhead pass from Frings and shot just wide.

Then it all fell apart when some fuck with black nail polish lay on the ground for five minutes after a challenge that he should have been called on. Instead the call went the other way. KC won a corner. Swung a ball in on the corner.....Santos decided the best thing to do was to knee it up in the air about 8 feet nicely lofted for the same nail polish fucker to side bike kick it past Frei.

The rest is a shitstorm of a blur. LOL

bman27
07-23-2011, 08:40 PM
I agree that was a terrible performance, but at the same time we've seen that level of crap from Santos in the midfield before. Why do we continue to give him chances to play period

Fixed.
He is lazy, period and should not be the captain of this club. someone with his ball skills should not have issues slotting in to the AM role. The Concept in the tactics is there, but he plays like he is just out their to collect a cheque

swan
07-23-2011, 08:40 PM
The only thing worse than the game so far is GOLTV's stupid interview with Soolsma. "What's your favorite animal? favorite color? come on...

lol yes but she is cute so

mmmikey
07-23-2011, 08:41 PM
Santos is a bench player (backup centre forward)! We need an attacking mid desperately. That is our biggest need right now. CB and starting LB are another holes we need to fill as well.

We started off great, but.....:facepalm:

a strong backline has to be job 1. with a good foundation comes more of the chances we created early. enough chances and some go in. as long as u stay strong at the back and don't concede multiple goals a game that makes u a tough team to beat.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:41 PM
So, I just tuned in... shocked by the score.

Skimming through the above comments, people seem to have an issue with Santos tonight.
Besides that, how has the team looked in the first half?
How are the new boys doing?
We played a fantastic first 20 or so minutes. We looked to be a seriously competitive MLS side. We had 3 very solid chances but none resulting in goals which would surely have had an impact on what has transpired since. The ref made a few suspect calls or non calls. Kamara fouled Soolsma and went down as if he were dead. Ref played advantage even though Soolsma could not get the ball before it went out of touch. 1 minute later Kamara score on a scissor kick goal. After that.....team gets lazy, seems to give up and Frei is slow to react on the second goal which could have been prevented. The team seems defeated completely after that and don't focus on the little things, causing us to give up a quick third goal. Santos gets pulled.

ManUtd4ever
07-23-2011, 08:41 PM
The first 30 minutes or so was the best football this club has played all season followed by a complete an utter collapse. It should have been 2-0 TFC in the first 20 minutes, and now it's a blowout at halftime. If this club is going to improve, regardless of the personnel, it must learn to show some resolve. Fuck me, I was expecting a much different result tonight.

TFC better vindicate themselves in the CCL qualifier.

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:42 PM
wow save

ecospice
07-23-2011, 08:42 PM
What happened to Martina? Is he injured?

I think it is 2 games that Martina is not dressed. He must be in the doghouse! Good place to be tonight for TFC.

bman27
07-23-2011, 08:42 PM
and during this whole mess, somewhere far away, an evil ginger man is laughing uncontrollably........

flatpicker
07-23-2011, 08:42 PM
We started off really well.

Koevermans had a tap in from the six and the KC keeper made a desperation save that worked out.

Then Koeverman took a nice flick overhead pass from Frings and shot just wide.

Then it all fell apart when some fuck with black nail polish lay on the ground for five minutes after a challenge that he should have been called on. Instead the call went the other way. KC won a corner. Swung a ball in on the corner.....Santos decided the best thing to do was to knee it up in the air about 8 feet nicely lofted for the same nail polish fucker to side bike kick it past Frei.

The rest is a shitstorm of a blur. LOL


hahaha... thanks for the update.

ManUtd4ever
07-23-2011, 08:42 PM
Another missed opportunity.

TFC USA
07-23-2011, 08:43 PM
I've had enough.

As stupid as it sounds, fire Winter. The fact that this team just folds and gets blown to bits on the road pisses me off to no end.

Hire someone from MLS who knows the system so we don't have someone out of his depth fucking up week after week.

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:43 PM
Do you think even if we fixed the matches as they did in seria A it would maybe kinda helped us?

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:43 PM
I've had enough.

As stupid as it sounds, fire Winter. The fact that this team just folds and gets blown to bits on the road pisses me off to no end.

Hire someone from MLS who knows the system so we don't have someone out of his depth fucking up week after week.


How many coaches have we had?

4?
5?

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:44 PM
The only thing worse than the game so far is GOLTV's stupid interview with Soolsma. "What's your favorite animal? favorite color? come on...

At least he likes house music ...

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:44 PM
Fixed.
He is lazy, period and should not be the captain of this club. someone with his ball skills should not have issues slotting in to the AM role. The Concept in the tactics is there, but he plays like he is just out their to collect a cheque
There's more to playing in the middle than ball skills, sorry. Trying to covert a target forward to an AM, when he's sucked at the spot before.

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:45 PM
I think it is 2 games that Martina is not dressed. He must be in the doghouse! Good place to be tonight for TFC.

So I guess we know who's not coming back next season.

pekduck
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
;1346682']We're out numbered in midfield, 4 to 3 (in a 3-4-3 vs 4-3-3 battle), and we had Santos, a striker playing midfield, you might as well have had Sturgis in the lineup.

You think that removing Santos and subbing in Stinson will create better service for Koevermans? Why not move Johnson from the left winger position to Midfield where Santos was playing and playing Santos as a left winger. Considering we would have 3 strikers vs 3 defenders dont you want players that can score and are good on the ball playing 1 on 1 vs defenders?

midfield is dynamic with fullback and winger movements to compliment the numbers so it should always be around 5 and it is not being out numbered from the play so far

moving johnson to inside is giving up the space behind and yourassowsky will be mercilessly exposed

soccer is a flowing game

flatpicker
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
I really need to find a team in another league to cheer for... one that wins, that is.

The last time I ever had a winning team to cheer for was back when Toronto won the World Series.

Dreadlocks
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
I'm sorry but this is not on Winter.

flatpicker
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
Oh thank Christ!

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
goooooollll

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:46 PM
about time

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
YESSIR KOEV finally gets one

Dreadlocks
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
3-1 Koevermans

ManUtd4ever
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Nice header Danny.

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
There's one. Good response

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
That looked promising

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
that was some great link up play again....are we back to the first 20 mins now?

Keyman
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Great ball by Johnson, great finish by Koev.

TFC USA
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
How many coaches have we had?

4?
5?

Roughly 25,000.

The problem is not entirely Winter. He's a twit but it starts at the top. I do not want the people at the top running this club anymore.

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Yaaa Weeeeeeeew.

To be honest Johnson has probably been our best player. Hahaha do one jacob Peterson

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:48 PM
Nice header Danny.


too bad it was not


Danny D

:(

mmmikey
07-23-2011, 08:48 PM
I really need to find a team in another league to cheer for... one that wins, that is.

The last time I ever had a winning team to cheer for was back when Toronto won the World Series.

become a tottenham fan like me we win all the time! oh wait............ sigh!

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:48 PM
Yaaa Weeeeeeeew.

To be honest Johnson has probably been our best player. Hahaha do one jacob Peterson

That Johnson trade is looking good for us....lol

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:49 PM
Roughly 25,000.

The problem is not entirely Winter. He's a twit but it starts at the top. I do not want the people at the top running this club anymore.


1 coach every year.......


Might as well put them on the 102.1 morning show!!!

ha ha

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:49 PM
Get up cunt!!

Bunbury is on!

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:49 PM
OHHHHH he's dead again.......just long enough to make the sub

TFC USA
07-23-2011, 08:50 PM
I'm sorry but this is not on Winter.

Then explain why this team mentally collapses the moment it's 1 or 2-0 on the road (LA game notwithstanding).

If the players are a bunch of basket cases then that's a coaching problem.

Nice goal by Danny K. Comeback is on for our next 6-2 assnailing.

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:50 PM
that was some great link up play again....are we back to the first 20 mins now?

Maybe Winter told them they were playing for their jobs at the half.

- Scott

KGH
07-23-2011, 08:50 PM
Thats our first MLS goal in 4 games...since our 1-0 win over van. Sad really.

Dreadlocks
07-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Then explain why this team mentally collapses the moment it's 1 or 2-0 on the road (LA game notwithstanding).

If the players are a bunch of basket cases then that's a coaching problem.

Nice goal by Danny K. Comeback is on for our next 6-2 assnailing.

I'm saying this game in particular is not on Winter.

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Maybe Winter told them they were playing for their jobs at the half.

- Scott
AGAIN???????? :D

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Thats our first MLS goal in 4 games...since our 1-0 win over van. Sad really.



Yeah get use to it!!!

that part don't phase some of us here!!

Shakes McQueen
07-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Then explain why this team mentally collapses the moment it's 1 or 2-0 on the road (LA game notwithstanding).

If the players are a bunch of basket cases then that's a coaching problem.

Nice goal by Danny K. Comeback is on for our next 6-2 assnailing.

I suspect a big part of it is confidence. When we let one in, it's like the whole team sighs and says "here we go again", then falls apart.

- Scott

ManUtd4ever
07-23-2011, 08:52 PM
We need one more before the 75 minute mark to make it interesting...

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Morgan on now?! Another academy player on!

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:53 PM
Ref needs to show some balls and book the kc keeper early for time wasting

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:53 PM
WOW.....Morgan on for Yourass?

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:54 PM
Ref needs to show some balls and book the kc keeper early for time wasting

He's actually been alright tonight. No major impact, gulp, sO far.

TFC07
07-23-2011, 08:54 PM
WOW.....Morgan on for Yourass?

Finally! It should be interesting to see how Morgan performs in this game. If he does a good job, I except he might become a starter for next game.

TFC USA
07-23-2011, 08:55 PM
Yourass doesn't suck so Winter puts in an academy player down 3-1. :rolleyes:

Soccerpro
07-23-2011, 08:55 PM
Good to see Morgan

kaos197O
07-23-2011, 08:56 PM
I like hearing that FRINGS AND KOEV WANT TO PLAY when we are down 3-0. There's your heart guys!

KGH
07-23-2011, 08:56 PM
Yourass doesn't suck so Winter puts in an academy player down 3-1. :rolleyes:

I'm ok with it. He's been a liability all night

Oldtimer
07-23-2011, 08:56 PM
Finally! It should be interesting to see how Morgan performs in this game. If he does a good job, I except he might become a starter for next game.

I hope so... Yourass is dreadful.

Baggio2TFC
07-23-2011, 08:57 PM
Ok, just for that sub....that is clearly a coaching mistake...sending a message to the players that it`s over.....now I finally agree...Winter needs to go!

pekduck
07-23-2011, 08:57 PM
wtf with all the KC players falling down like sissies?

[NBF]
07-23-2011, 08:57 PM
Finally! It should be interesting to see how Morgan performs in this game. If he does a good job, I except he might become a starter for next game.
winter is looking to make the playoffs:drinking:

v00d00daddy
07-23-2011, 08:57 PM
More time wasting.

Strangely...the TFC players look motivated right now. They don't look like they've quit.

We shall see

MartinUtd
07-23-2011, 08:57 PM
KC players are dropping like flies.


Btw.. I missed the first half.. wtf happened?

mmmikey
07-23-2011, 08:57 PM
yourassowsky has only not sucked as much as borman has. he hasn't been very good.

his attitude is horrible as well. the moment a ball doesnt go right he stops running. when your chasing the game u have to GO GO GO.. not look petulant.

QSIM
07-23-2011, 08:58 PM
Yourass doesn't suck so Winter puts in an academy player down 3-1. :rolleyes:

Don't forget Ccl Wednesday ha nvm why would we save yourassowsky

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss

TFC07
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
WTF is going on?

QSIM
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
That was easy.

MartinUtd
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Fuck... that was bad

deeznutz
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
keep clapping people
keep cheering

tfc tfc

ag futbol
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Nice goal by Danny K. Comeback is on for our next 6-2 assnailing.
Seems to be correct at this point

flatpicker
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
I feel so bad for Danny and Torsten right now.

Baggio2TFC
07-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Morgan looked great there....Should we start the Post game thread now?

TFC USA
07-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Game over.

So easy. So easy for our defense to get ripped apart.

Keyman
07-23-2011, 09:01 PM
We are so, so awful.

QSIM
07-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Ecks looked like he was about to explode.