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mastermixer
07-14-2011, 12:36 PM
As per Molinaro's twitter.

Artur3575
07-14-2011, 12:37 PM
Nana traded to SJ as per Molinaro twitter

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:38 PM
Holy shit!!!

Well then. Let's get us another CB, shall we?

Who/What did we get for him?

Whoop
07-14-2011, 12:39 PM
Now saying it's a multi-player deal.

Artur3575
07-14-2011, 12:39 PM
Looks like multiplayer deal as per John

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:40 PM
Mariner is surely fast on the phone calling up trades.

More details please.

dantdot
07-14-2011, 12:40 PM
Woooooow. I hope they know what they're doing.

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:41 PM
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=28835

mod please merge

Topboy
07-14-2011, 12:41 PM
Jake Peterson, Alan Gordon and Nana for Ryan Johnson, money and an International spot is what I'm hearing

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:42 PM
HOLY FUCK.

This is a proper purge.

Parkdale
07-14-2011, 12:43 PM
merged.

ryan
07-14-2011, 12:43 PM
Johnson scored 2 goals at the Gold Cup

McBrace
07-14-2011, 12:43 PM
Woooooow. I hope they know what they're doing.

If I had a dollar for every time this was posted, I'd buy this team...:D

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:43 PM
Jake Peterson, Alan Gordon and Nana for Ryan Johnson, money and an International spot is what I'm hearing

WTF really????

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:44 PM
Ryan Johnson, 95 appearances with San Jose, 17 goals (source: Wiki)

Jeffro
07-14-2011, 12:44 PM
Very disappointing news, I still believe Nana has a huge upside. We best be getting something good out of this...

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 12:45 PM
cool
interesting trade.
Has mariner all over it.
Curious to see who gets the better deal.
Loved Gordon but dude was to oft injured

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:46 PM
Then again, Molinaro keeps calling Kevin Hatchi (who he insists is coming to Toronto tomorrow) "Kevin Hitachi," so who the fuck knows.

Good riddance to Jake Peterson, will dearly miss Gordon, but he was becoming a bit of a tampon -- in for three days, out for four weeks.

MartinUtd
07-14-2011, 12:46 PM
So... we're net -1 CB's out of this?

Pachuco
07-14-2011, 12:46 PM
WTF? I wouldn't deal Alan Gordon and Nana for Ryan Johnston. That's crazy. Never mind throwing in a bag of hammers (Jacob Peterson)

ryan
07-14-2011, 12:46 PM
Johnson made $125 last season, so basically replacing Peterson's money with his.

Gordon and Nana will free up 150K

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:47 PM
So... we're net -1 CB's out of this?

net -1 CB count, neutral on active CB count

International spot hmm... quick, let the rumor begin

TFC07
07-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Jake Peterson, Alan Gordon and Nana for Ryan Johnson, money and an International spot is what I'm hearing

Peterson is gone! :flare:

Gordon played well when he was healthy, but we just had too many target strikers. So I am not mad he got traded.

Nana is a big loss who still has the potential to be very good defender in MLS.

Money (Allocation money I assume?) and International spot means maybe TFC has someone lined up to sign.

Ryan Johnson: I don't know too much about him. Time for me to do some research on him.

mdc 77
07-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Nana has upside but obviously something was up this year besides just injury, I think the has only been in 5 or 6 matches.

Johnson is a pretty decent pickup.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:48 PM
net -1 CB count, neutral on active CB count

International spot hmm... quick, let the rumor begin

Smells like it could be Hatchi, who's French. That would up the defender count and eat the international slot.

Topboy
07-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Very disappointing news, I still believe Nana has a huge upside. We best be getting something good out of this...
Very true, Gordon and Peterson where not short term nor long term solutions for the club but Nana leaves me dissapointed he still has alot of time to be a very good MLS Defender

menefreghista
07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
WTF? I wouldn't deal Alan Gordon and Nana for Ryan Johnston. That's crazy. Never mind throwing in a bag of hammers (Jacob Peterson)

This trade is probably more about the money and the international spot.

Management hated Nana anyways.

Gordon was surplus with Koevermans arrival. Plus he is made of glass.

The real interesting thing to see is if they can find a CB.

Also, was Nana close to returning?

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
Very disappointing news, I still believe Nana has a huge upside. We best be getting something good out of this...

agreed but there were those rumors that he didnt want to resign coupled with poor attitude in training, either way it looked like he was on his way out

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
WTF? I wouldn't deal Alan Gordon and Nana for Ryan Johnston. That's crazy. Never mind throwing in a bag of hammers (Jacob Peterson)

If Alan Gordon is healthy I agree.

Dealing injured Gordon, injured/jaded Nana, injured Peterson (none played more than 2 games lately) for one healthy player is more productive for the remainder of the season. If we get money and one more International spot, and if we fill that with another signing of Ecks quality player, I'll be thrilled.

I can dream...

Ageroo
07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
wonder how much allocation we get back......

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
If this trade rumor is accurate, it must be the precursor to another acquisition, considering the lack of depth of on the backline.

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 12:50 PM
This move makes TOTAL sense. Always deal from strength and depth. I mean...look at our defensive power! Oh...

(blows brains out)

tfcleeds
07-14-2011, 12:50 PM
And this addresses our CB needs how exactly? Sad to see Gordon gone if true, but yeah, he's of no use if he's injured all the time.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:50 PM
If this trade is rumour is accurate, it must be the precursor to another acquisition, considering the lack of depth of on the backline.

Nana just confirmed it to J-Mo, so it's true.

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:51 PM
Smells like it could be Hatchi, who's French. That would up the defender count and eat the international slot.

Hatchi? The L'Impact reject? hmm...

boogs06
07-14-2011, 12:51 PM
Dunfield to TFC per Weber

ryan
07-14-2011, 12:52 PM
I'd imagine they have something else in the works regarding a CB....the additional space + intl spot does open possibilities a bit.

Although, doesn't Johnson count as an int'l?

TFC07
07-14-2011, 12:52 PM
And this addresses our CB needs how exactly? Sad to see Gordon gone if true, but yeah, he's of no use if he's injured all the time.

Maybe TFC already has a CB lined up to sign, but needed to get rid some players and get an International slot & money in return first?

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:52 PM
Dunfield? For fuck's sakes.

TFC07
07-14-2011, 12:52 PM
Dunfield to TFC per Weber

LOL!

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 12:53 PM
Ives has Dunfield to TFC...
http://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/statuses/91565080658972673

Oldtimer
07-14-2011, 12:53 PM
If we get enough $$$, we can pay down the cap hit, sign a DP-quality defender, and have it all come in under the cap.

I wonder if we got enough money?

Jenkins12
07-14-2011, 12:53 PM
I think this is a decent trade, freeing up some cap space, adding a decent attacking threat and getting another international spot. It will only be a decent trade if we use the cap space wisely!

theres more to this trade than just this, CB is a must and surely the FO won't just ignore this..then again we are TFC

Ageroo
07-14-2011, 12:53 PM
Ives...reporting Dunfield may be on his way to TFC......wow

TFC07
07-14-2011, 12:54 PM
Dunfield? For fuck's sakes.

If we were trying to a Canadian player from Whitecaps, it should be Teibert.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:54 PM
ProvinceWeber (http://twitter.com/#!/ProvinceWeber) Marc Weber



#WhitecapsFC (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WhitecapsFC) midfielder Terry Dunfield, the lone Vancouverite on the squad, has been deal to #TFC (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23TFC) for cash. #MLS (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23MLS)

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/ProvinceWeber/status/91565524047245312)

ALSO:

SoccerByIves (http://twitter.com/#!/SoccerByIves) Ives Galarcep



Vancouver dealing Terry Dunfield to Toronto FC. Wow.

5 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/SoccerByIves/status/91565080658972673)

Oldtimer
07-14-2011, 12:54 PM
Ives has Dunfield to TFC...
http://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/statuses/91565080658972673

That can't be the end of it. They got an international spot for someone.

Ageroo
07-14-2011, 12:54 PM
Dunfield is not in Vancouvers plans anymore as he seems to be playing a bench role. I like getting him here.....but now we have a million holding mids...lol

Whoop
07-14-2011, 12:54 PM
Wow... TFC not the only one trading a hometown boy.

I like Dunfield. I wonder how he'll fit in.

Topboy
07-14-2011, 12:55 PM
Ryan Johnson reminds me of a faster taller stronger Chad Barret from what I have seen, he has effortless speed and like Chad also an ability to blow chances repeatedly..... Plata - Kovermans - Johnson? We will have some speed and pressure on the outside thats for sure

Whoop
07-14-2011, 12:55 PM
Dunfield is not in Vancouvers plans anymore as he seems to be playing a bench role. I like getting him here.....but now we have a million holding mids...lol

That's what I was thinking.

Has to be the end for JDG, no?

ryan
07-14-2011, 12:55 PM
This really has to be the end of JDG? No?

He's like the 12th best DM we have?!

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 12:56 PM
That can't be the end of it. They got an international spot for someone.

Like I said, Kevin Hatchi, the L'Impact castoff, is a Frenchman. That's an international slot and Molinaro insists he's coming to Toronto tomorrow, despite Mariner's denial.

If we somehow dump JDG today, I will be ECSTATIC.

This is a good day so far in terms of overhauling the squad.

KGH
07-14-2011, 12:56 PM
I wonder if all this is a precurser to JDG being dumped / shipped out. Why on earth would we bring in a net +1 mid yet -1 defenders?

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Dunfield is not bad, more consistent than Tchani, or Yourassowsky

International spot.. come on.. get a good defender

dmorgans
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Prelude to getting rid of JDG?

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Wow, im not mad at either of these trades.
If Gordon wasnt injured as often as he is, id say they might be getting a better deal but Id say right now we are doing ok.
Id also venture we definitely have some more defenders on their way if we are currently making deals for more mids/forwards

Topboy
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
I wonder if all this is a precurser to JDG being dumped / shipped out. Why on earth would we bring in a net +1 mid yet -1 defenders?
Maybe but most likely Sturgis...JDG is still a very tricky guy to ship

ryan
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
I don't think anyone outside of the SG's is going to recognize any of the starting 10 players against Dallas.

Serb_Star
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Why do we keep getting the same type of midfielder?

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Ryan Johnson was San Jose's MVP in 2009.

P-NUTZ
07-14-2011, 12:58 PM
i will honestly miss nana - and always saw him as an underappreciated asset.

peterson - thank goodness your gone.
gordon - too bad but if you rarely play it's no help.

Johnson? - i hope he has potential at mid to get us help where we need it most. simply replacing gordon makes him an option but doesn't solve the issues at outside mid or centre back.

interesting to see what else we got if this is the case.

Ageroo
07-14-2011, 12:58 PM
That's what I was thinking.

Has to be the end for JDG, no?

Who knows....Dunfield can play in an AM role as well.....I am puzzled at this but love Dunfield....but there are too many cooks in the DM kitchen now. Unless the 3 can co-exist. If JDG isn't going anywhere it means Tchani is riding pine from now on.....

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 12:58 PM
I like the addition of Dunfield to our midfield.

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 12:59 PM
I'm sorry Nana couldn't get on better here. I'll miss having a local lad like him coming up. Nice to poach Dunfield though. Look forward to his first interview and Vanny fans backlash.

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 12:59 PM
That's what I was thinking.

Has to be the end for JDG, no?
id definitely argue this

pekduck
07-14-2011, 12:59 PM
Who knows....Dunfield can play in an AM role as well.....I am puzzled at this but love Dunfield....but there are too many cooks in the DM kitchen now. Unless the 3 can co-exist. If JDG isn't going anywhere it means Tchani is riding pine from now on.....

we can give Tchani back to NYRB for Tim Ream, lol

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 01:00 PM
Why do we keep getting the same type of midfielder?

cus we are shipping the ones we have out

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:00 PM
^But who/what in their right mind would want to eat that contract? We'll have to ship him to an utter shit team, or buy him out.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
Any word on how much allocation money we get in the trade?

- Scott

TFC07
07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
TFC giving money in return for Dunfield?

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
Holy crap, it's going to be a drastically different lineup on the pitch July 20th.

ryan
07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
TFC giving money in return for Dunfield?

perhaps the cash in the SJ trade?

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
TFC giving money in return for Dunfield?

Yes, deal is for cash.

Jenkins12
07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
Like I said, Kevin Hatchi, the L'Impact castoff, is a Frenchman. That's an international slot and Molinaro insists he's coming to Toronto tomorrow, despite Mariner's denial.

If we somehow dump JDG today, I will be ECSTATIC.

This is a good day so far in terms of overhauling the squad.

Is Hatchi any good? He hasn't really played for anybody decent since his Youth with Auxerre, and he was cut from Montreal.

I dont know anything about him tbh

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 01:02 PM
peterson - thank goodness your gone.


Wait...Peterson is gone? Holy HELL am I getting smashed tonight!!

mastermixer
07-14-2011, 01:02 PM
Holy crap, it's going to be a drastically different lineup on the pitch July 20th.

Coach said he's trading players.
The Winter does not lie.

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 01:03 PM
^But who/what in their right mind would want to eat that contract? We'll have to ship him to an utter shit team, or buy him out.

buy him out and send him on his way.
CSN has said this as well as its been suggested by others.

TFC Cityboy
07-14-2011, 01:03 PM
Dunfield is a great pick-up. Don't know much about Johnson...Mariner starting to wheel and deal - good to see - this team is shite and needed re-inforcements...defence next please!
Am still worried we'll trade Stefan tho...

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:04 PM
buy him out and send him on his way.
CSN has said this as well as its been suggested by others.

Well, if CSN has said it, then we MUST do it. Please, I'd rather not think that the club listens to what Duane Rollins has to say.

If we can get something in return for him, i'd rather get it, no?

Ageroo
07-14-2011, 01:05 PM
We definitely poached Dunfield.......the Shitecaps fans are gonna be pissed....

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:05 PM
I'm going to have to do some serious roster updates on FIFA 11 tonight, LOL.

Topboy
07-14-2011, 01:06 PM
Dunfield has heart that is for sure...both Dunfield less distribution then JDG but more bite

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:06 PM
Well, if CSN has said it, then we MUST do it. Please, I'd rather not think that the club listens to what Duane Rollins has to say.

If we can get something in return for him, i'd rather get it, no?

If we could get anything for him in his current state, I suspect we'd have gotten it by now.

- Scott

Ageroo
07-14-2011, 01:07 PM
Dunfield has heart that is for sure...both Dunfield less distribution then JDG but more bite

There will be a lot of hard tackles in our future. He is a warrior...

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:07 PM
Caps fans are already pissed.

Pigfynn
07-14-2011, 01:07 PM
We need more warrior, less bitch.

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
Real question: do you think over the last five year's there has been more people to wear TFC colours than the Toronto Argos (50ish on roster) combined? Has to be, no?

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
Well, if CSN has said it, then we MUST do it. Please, I'd rather not think that the club listens to what Duane Rollins has to say.

If we can get something in return for him, i'd rather get it, no?

I dont care either way tbh and realistically noones gonna take him.
So let him jog on

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 01:09 PM
We need more warrior, less bitch.

THIS!!!!

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:10 PM
Caps fans are already pissed.

I don't blame them, their loss is definitely our gain in this case. It looks like Dunfield will get to play in the CCL qualifier matches after all.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:10 PM
If we could close the day out somehow by ending up JDG and Borman gone and with either of Joel Lindpere or Luke Rodgers from NYRB joining the team, I would go to sleep happy.

golasogolaso
07-14-2011, 01:10 PM
this trade/roster moves will be defined by who we end up picking up at CB......lets see....needs to be a good one

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Caps fans are already pissed.

Free pint for posting a photoshopped Dunfield with this years Vcup champs scarf on (once they're made of course).

tfcleeds
07-14-2011, 01:12 PM
We need more warrior, less bitch.

Yep, more warrior, less pylon, tree stump, painted number on the pitch....

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:13 PM
I guess the Hatchi deal is more than likely.

mastermixer
07-14-2011, 01:13 PM
Official announcement is Dunfield to TFC. I hope there is more in the works than this.

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 01:13 PM
More from Ives...

Toronto FC is not done dealing folks. I'm hearing two more players could be on the way out. Busy day for Aron Winter.

http://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/statuses/91570358372675586

Ben - D.O.W.
07-14-2011, 01:13 PM
So wait if 'Young Nana' is gone then who's TFC's longest serving player? God there's so much turnover.

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Aug 27th Toronto vs San Jose.

Cronin, Attakora, Peterson, and Gordon will all get time to test the theory we all dread.:rolleyes:

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Official announcement is Dunfield to TFC. I hope there is more in the works than this.


There is more coming.

Parkdale
07-14-2011, 01:14 PM
wiki is already updated (just not the photo)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Dunfield

Ben - D.O.W.
07-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Aug 27th Toronto vs San Jose.

Cronin, Attakora, Peterson, and Gordon will all get time to test the theory we all dread.:rolleyes:

Oh god - Gordon's going to get 3 isn't he?

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:15 PM
There is more coming.

This is in addition to Peterson and Gordon departing?

Beach_Red
07-14-2011, 01:15 PM
More from Ives...

Toronto FC is not done dealing folks. I'm hearing two more players could be on the way out. Busy day for Aron Winter.

http://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/statuses/91570358372675586


Well, he said he was going to trade players - good to see it happening so quickly.

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 01:15 PM
Oh god - Gordon's going to get 3 isn't he?

They may bring back Ronny O'Brien just for that match...:D

Gazza
07-14-2011, 01:16 PM
Anything other than Dunfield official? There are a lot of names being bandied about in this thread. Gets confusing.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:16 PM
Aug 27th Toronto vs San Jose.

Cronin, Attakora, Peterson, and Gordon will all get time to test the theory we all dread.:rolleyes:

Gordon will get subbed out in the fourth minute with seven broken legs. When someone tries to explain to him that that isn't possible, he will get subbed out with an aneurysm too.

- Scott

FootieChick
07-14-2011, 01:16 PM
Very disappointing news, I still believe Nana has a huge upside. We best be getting something good out of this...


110% with you... I have my Nana jersey... every time I get a freakin' jersey they leave the same year! pisses me off. Nana was our best defense BY FAR! :picard:

boogs06
07-14-2011, 01:16 PM
This is in addition to Peterson and Gordon departing?

That hasn't been confirmed yet, so it could be the "more to come". All we know about the Nana trade "for sure" is that he is going to SJ, nothing else has been confirmed.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:17 PM
I feel sorry for the people who excitedly said they were going to get Gordon jerseys a couple of weeks ago. LOL

- Scott

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:17 PM
Gordon will get subbed out in the fourth minute with seven broken legs. When someone tries to explain to him that that isn't possible, he will get subbed out with an aneurysm too.

- Scott

:lol:

Ok this one made me chuckle...

dal524
07-14-2011, 01:17 PM
TFC has a higher turnover than McDonalds prob does

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Anything other than Dunfield official? There are a lot of names being bandied about in this thread. Gets confusing.

So far, we have

OUT
Nana to SJ (confirmed by JMo directly with Nana)
Peterson to SJ (rumour)
Gordon to SJ (rumour)

IN
Dunfield (multiple reports, official release from the Caps)
Hatchi (rumour)

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 01:18 PM
I feel sorry for the people who excitedly said they were going to get Gordon jerseys a couple of weeks ago. LOL

- Scott

I said if he made it the SEASON...:D:D:D

KGH
07-14-2011, 01:18 PM
110% with you... I have my Nana jersey... every time I get a freakin' jersey they leave the same year! pisses me off. Nana was our best defense BY FAR! :picard:
Could you please go buy a JDG jersey ASAP!!

Wull
07-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Aug 27th Toronto vs San Jose.

Cronin, Attakora, Peterson, and Gordon will all get time to test the theory we all dread.:rolleyes:

3 of the 4 will get applauded by me, the other one won't get the TO reject chant though

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Gordon will get subbed out in the fourth minute with seven broken legs. When someone tries to explain to him that that isn't possible, he will get subbed out with an aneurysm too.

- Scott

This is exactly what will happen

Azerban
07-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Free pint for posting a photoshopped Dunfield with this years Vcup champs scarf on (once they're made of course).

fuck that, lets get a real picture and send it to the caps

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Ok, so in essence, Attakora, Gordon, and Peterson have been dealt for Johnson and Dunfield, with the allocation acquired from San Jose being moved to Vancouver. Based on the fitness and overall impact of all players involved in today's transactions, I would suggest that TFC is a better squad today than it was yesterday.

Now Winter and Mariner can focus on solidifying the backline, with the glut of midfielders on the squad.

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:20 PM
TFC has a higher turnover than McDonalds prob does

We are going to need one of these to keep track of all the players that have come through Toronto in the 5 seasons of existance.

http://www.islam1.co/prodimages/g108_l.jpg

Gazza
07-14-2011, 01:21 PM
I feel sorry for the people who excitedly said they were going to get Gordon jerseys a couple of weeks ago. LOL

- Scott

I picked up a Gordon-brand shoelace to wrap around my skullet. So pissed right now.

BeerBaron95
07-14-2011, 01:21 PM
110% with you... I have my Nana jersey... every time I get a freakin' jersey they leave the same year! pisses me off. Nana was our best defense BY FAR! :picard:

Maybe u need to stop getting names on jerseys??

sound advice brought to you by Me

that is all.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:21 PM
I would suggest that TFC is a better squad today than it was yesterday.

This depends entirely on what they do with the backline now. We are wafer thin.

- Scott

dupont
07-14-2011, 01:21 PM
Gutting the team again... Colour me shocked that TFC would do something like that!

FootieChick
07-14-2011, 01:22 PM
Could you please go buy a JDG jersey ASAP!!

Hahaha... I wish I could swallow that, but I'd be stuck with it! He and Gargan have gots ta go!

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:22 PM
I like moving out Peterson. He was expensive for what he produced.

Gordon never really wanted to be here, although I got the feeling he was just starting to feel settled in. I am sure he will be happy going back to Cali though.

Johnson is the interesting name here. I think he's going to have impact. I do like this particular incoming player.

I am "meh" on Dunfield. With Tchani being underwhelming and JDG on his way out, I guess we will need his DM capabilities, but I am more interested in where this puts Frings. Are we going to play 2 in front of our backline in case we can't shore it up enough?

Nuvinho
07-14-2011, 01:22 PM
so Dunfield and Frings in the midfield......JDG out probably?

but maybe even Sturgis and Tchani.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:22 PM
I predict they'll do Hatchi, plus someone maybe much better for Frei and that Kocic will become our starting keeper. Dire scenario and hope that I'm wrong and we can find another way to shore up the back.

Couchy81
07-14-2011, 01:23 PM
I like the way this going so far

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Gutting the team again... Colour me shocked that TFC would do something like that!

It's a large number of players, sure, but I wouldn't really call it gutting the lineup yet. Gordon and Nana scarcely played, and Peterson was crap.

- Scott

FootieChick
07-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Maybe u need to stop getting names on jerseys??

sound advice brought to you by Me

that is all.

I've never listened to you before... why would I start now? :D

All the players I have I still like and respect - especially WYNNE! <3

Detroit_TFC
07-14-2011, 01:24 PM
I might as well go home, because no more work gets done when there is big TFC news. :)

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:24 PM
This depends entirely on what they do with the backline now. We are wafer thin.

- Scott

Agreed.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:24 PM
Short Molinaro story on Nana's move:


The Nana Attakora-Toronto FC saga has come to an end.
The Major League Soccer club has traded Attakora to the San Jose Earthquakes, the Canadian defender confirmed to CBCSports.ca on Thursday.
Attakora did not know the details of the deal, specifically who TFC will receive from San Jose in return for him.
A 22-year-old native of North York, Ont., the defender has been with the club since it entered MLS in 2007. He said he found out about the trade via text message by Sam Cronin, a former TFC teammate who now plays for San Jose.
Aron Winter, TFC’s head coach and technical director, then called Attakora minutes later to deliver the news.
"It’s exciting but it’s sad at the same time. I’ve spent my whole career here and it is my home city, so it’s disappointing, but I’m also happy for the change and the new challenge," Attakora said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2011/07/14/sp-tfc-trade.html#ixzz1S6b3e35W

Gazza
07-14-2011, 01:25 PM
Dunfield seems to be overrated on this board. I think he's slow, and his distribution is terrible. Kevin Harmse was also a warrior and a red card waiting to happen.

Azerban
07-14-2011, 01:25 PM
I predict they'll do Hatchi, plus someone maybe much better for Frei

stop it stop it stop it i will end you

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:25 PM
It's a large number of players, sure, but I wouldn't really call it gutting the lineup yet. Gordon and Nana scarcely played, and Peterson was crap.

- Scott


I agree with this. The players we dealt away would be spare parts on most teams. Except for Nana, it's unfortunate that his trade away was not because he wasn't useful, it's because they couldn't come to a contract agreement. That's business I guess. Still sucks.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:25 PM
I like moving out Peterson. He was expensive for what he produced.

Gordon never really wanted to be here, although I got the feeling he was just starting to feel settled in. I am sure he will be happy going back to Cali though.

Johnson is the interesting name here. I think he's going to have impact. I do like this particular incoming player.

I am "meh" on Dunfield. With Tchani being underwhelming and JDG on his way out, I guess we will need his DM capabilities, but I am more interested in where this puts Frings. Are we going to play 2 in front of our backline in case we can't shore it up enough?

I think it means JDG's departure may be imminent

Don't know much about Dunfield, but several people here seem to be happy about him coming to TFC. Why are you "meh" on him?

- Scott

BeerBaron95
07-14-2011, 01:26 PM
I've never listened to you before... why would I start now? :D

All the players I have I still like and respect - especially WYNNE! <3

:flare:

whatever, at least i can wear my jerseys without having some guy that doesnt play on the team anymore ;)

Wynne is Eh:rolleyes:

Wull
07-14-2011, 01:26 PM
We are going to need one of these to keep track of all the players that have come through Toronto in the 5 seasons of existance.

http://www.islam1.co/prodimages/g108_l.jpg


Needs more digits

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:27 PM
stop it stop it stop it i will end you

Keep dreading it. The more you dread it, the more likely it is to happen. This team is cursed, and when Frei gets shipped for a middle-of-the-pack MLS defender, it'll prove my point.

BeerBaron95
07-14-2011, 01:27 PM
I predict they'll do Hatchi, plus someone maybe much better for Frei and that Kocic will become our starting keeper. Dire scenario and hope that I'm wrong and we can find another way to shore up the back.

I like this scenario.

APPROVED :flare:

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:27 PM
I predict they'll do Hatchi, plus someone maybe much better for Frei and that Kocic will become our starting keeper. Dire scenario and hope that I'm wrong and we can find another way to shore up the back.

No need to move Frei at this point with the current logjam in the midfield.

Frings
JDG
Dunfield
Sturgis
Tchani
Yourassowsky
Zavarise

Something has to give...

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 01:27 PM
New Centerback coming in apparently

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 01:28 PM
think the biggest reason they rid of Dunfield is cus his salarys gonna jump next year

dupont
07-14-2011, 01:28 PM
I agree with this. The players we dealt away would be spare parts on most teams. Except for Nana, it's unfortunate that his trade away was not because he wasn't useful, it's because they couldn't come to a contract agreement. That's business I guess. Still sucks.

I don't like losing Nana at all. I think he's going to be a great player.

mastermixer
07-14-2011, 01:28 PM
So apparently we got Dunfield for Allocation and future considerations.

I wonder who we got for Nana?

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:28 PM
I think it means JDG's departure may be imminent

Don't know much about Dunfield, but several people here seem to be happy about him coming to TFC. Why are you "meh" on him?

- Scott

He is inconsistent. Plays with fire, which we do need, but skill level is not very high. With the "system" we are supposed to be putting into place, I don't see how he won't struggle just as much as other players have.

And JDG I think is gone in the off-season.

TFC USA
07-14-2011, 01:28 PM
Sweet Jesus.

So how many center backs do we have healthy? 4? And Harden is one of them?

FootieChick
07-14-2011, 01:29 PM
Nana has upside but obviously something was up this year besides just injury, I think the has only been in 5 or 6 matches.

Johnson is a pretty decent pickup.


Nana was suppose to come back on the 20th to play. He was injured, but big and small, him and Winter didn't see eye to eye.

Wull
07-14-2011, 01:29 PM
He said he found out about the trade via text message by Sam Cronin, a former TFC teammate who now plays for San Jose.

Aron Winter, TFCís head coach and technical director, then called Attakora minutes later to deliver the news.
"Itís exciting but itís sad at the same time. Iíve spent my whole career here and it is my home city, so itís disappointing, but Iím also happy for the change and the new challenge," Attakora said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2011/07/14/sp-tfc-trade.html#ixzz1S6b3e35W


I think this is disgraceful and another poor showing from Winter and co

BeerBaron95
07-14-2011, 01:30 PM
Nana was suppose to come back on the 20th to play. He was injured, but big and small, him and Winter didn't see eye to eye.

DEAL WITH IT!! lol

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 01:30 PM
I don't like losing Nana at all. I think he's going to be a great player.

He may be back someday but he clearly couldn't work here. Good luck to him everywhere except against us.

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:30 PM
Dunfield seems to be overrated on this board. I think he's slow, and his distribution is terrible. Kevin Harmse was also a warrior and a red card waiting to happen.

Dunfield and Harmse shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. While I don't think he is the second coming, he is definitely a solid holding midfielder by MLS standards with an offensive upside as well.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:30 PM
I think this is disgraceful and another poor showing from Winter and co

It says Winter called him a few minutes later. In this age of social media, it doesn't necessarily mean Winter took a long time to inform him.

- Scott

Technorgasm
07-14-2011, 01:31 PM
REally like Gordon, I feel its a loss, even if he has health issues.

all other. . prob get banned for over celbrating after giving a thumbs up sign near a camera.

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:31 PM
If I was to guess, I would guess that Sturgis will be gone as part of this. He still has some sort of value, and he is a domestic player. Probably get a small allocation for him.

Detroit_TFC
07-14-2011, 01:32 PM
No need to move Frei at this point with the current logjam in the midfield.

Frings
JDG
Dunfield
Sturgis
Tchani
Yourassowsky
Zavarise

Something has to give...

Winter is rolling out his 2-5-2-1 system :facepalm:

Wull
07-14-2011, 01:32 PM
It says Winter called him a few minutes later. In this age of social media, it doesn't necessarily mean Winter took a long time to inform him.

- Scott


Why should Cronin get to know before the player himself? I don't like the way they've treated Nana since they came in

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Molinaro: Just got off phone with Earl Cochrane. Told me he could talk about Nana in about an hour, so expect formal team announcement soon.

ryan
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
It says Winter called him a few minutes later. In this age of social media, it doesn't necessarily mean Winter took a long time to inform him.

- Scott

I agree. Winter is obviously got his fingers in many different pies at the moment. I'm sure he waited for it to be official with the league before calling Nana, while Cronin could have known prior to it being official.

London
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
can they just tell us the news

WTF

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
It's July 14 folks. Remember that. ;)

TFC07
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Yourassowsky is a LB naturally. I think he might move back there now.

bangersandmash
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Why should Cronin get to know before the player himself? I don't like the way they've treated Nana since they came in

Union rep?

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Why is it that under Mo previously and under Winter now, we've always been so overweight on midfielders?

Except for Gerba, when we were overweight on forwards! Badum-tish! Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

Fort York Redcoat
07-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Short Molinaro story on Nana's move:


The Nana Attakora-Toronto FC saga has come to an end.
The Major League Soccer club has traded Attakora to the San Jose Earthquakes, the Canadian defender confirmed to CBCSports.ca on Thursday.
Attakora did not know the details of the deal, specifically who TFC will receive from San Jose in return for him.
A 22-year-old native of North York, Ont., the defender has been with the club since it entered MLS in 2007. He said he found out about the trade via text message by Sam Cronin, a former TFC teammate who now plays for San Jose.
Aron Winter, TFC’s head coach and technical director, then called Attakora minutes later to deliver the news.
"It’s exciting but it’s sad at the same time. I’ve spent my whole career here and it is my home city, so it’s disappointing, but I’m also happy for the change and the new challenge," Attakora said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2011/07/14/sp-tfc-trade.html#ixzz1S6b3e35W



I think this is disgraceful and another poor showing from Winter and co

minutes could be 2 mins. It's not that improbable in this tweetality we live in. Hell it could be as simple as

In Toronto-Get Nana on the phone...
In SJ- Tell Cronin his buddy's coming...

Tweet wins the race every time.:D

FootieChick
07-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Short Molinaro story on Nana's move:


The Nana Attakora-Toronto FC saga has come to an end.
The Major League Soccer club has traded Attakora to the San Jose Earthquakes, the Canadian defender confirmed to CBCSports.ca on Thursday.
Attakora did not know the details of the deal, specifically who TFC will receive from San Jose in return for him.
A 22-year-old native of North York, Ont., the defender has been with the club since it entered MLS in 2007. He said he found out about the trade via text message by Sam Cronin, a former TFC teammate who now plays for San Jose.
Aron Winter, TFCís head coach and technical director, then called Attakora minutes later to deliver the news.
"Itís exciting but itís sad at the same time. Iíve spent my whole career here and it is my home city, so itís disappointing, but Iím also happy for the change and the new challenge," Attakora said.




Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2011/07/14/sp-tfc-trade.html#ixzz1S6b3e35W



Pieces of #(%&# s#it! That's how they conduct business, TEXT MESSAGES! MLS should REALLY put a stop to that! RIDICULOUS!

London
07-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Yourassowsky is a LB naturally. I think he might move back there now.

many forget this

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:34 PM
I think Winter forgot to add the "416" in front of the number and Sam had him on speed dial. :D

Oldtimer
07-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Why should Cronin get to know before the player himself? I don't like the way they've treated Nana since they came in

Blame San Jose's coach for inappropriately spilling the beans. Has nothing to do with Winter.


Union rep?

Another possibility.

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
It says Winter called him a few minutes later. In this age of social media, it doesn't necessarily mean Winter took a long time to inform him.

- Scott

In this age of social media, somebody from TFC should be a calling a traded player the second it happens, exactly so that this doesn't happen. It can be a flunky who says "Aron's busy, he'll call in a bit, but here's what's up".

pekduck
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/07/toronto-acquires-terry-dunfield

official now for dunfield

Wull
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Union rep?

Not in the slightest and I've been a big proponent of them aside from their dealings with Nana

London
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Pieces of #(%&# s#it! That's how they conduct business, TEXT MESSAGES! MLS should REALLY put a stop to that! RIDICULOUS!


realy that was sam cronin,

it does say winter called him on the phone

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Short Molinaro story on Nana's move:


The Nana Attakora-Toronto FC saga has come to an end.
The Major League Soccer club has traded Attakora to the San Jose Earthquakes, the Canadian defender confirmed to CBCSports.ca on Thursday.
Attakora did not know the details of the deal, specifically who TFC will receive from San Jose in return for him.
A 22-year-old native of North York, Ont., the defender has been with the club since it entered MLS in 2007. He said he found out about the trade via text message by Sam Cronin, a former TFC teammate who now plays for San Jose.
Aron Winter, TFCís head coach and technical director, then called Attakora minutes later to deliver the news.
"Itís exciting but itís sad at the same time. Iíve spent my whole career here and it is my home city, so itís disappointing, but Iím also happy for the change and the new challenge," Attakora said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2011/07/14/sp-tfc-trade.html#ixzz1S6b3e35W


Not surprised.

I commented on this when Mike Richards found out he was been traded to LA Kings from ESPN twitter feed.

Social media moves way faster than teams. Because of the need to one up every one, media outlets will report on a deal before it's apparently signed off on.

I've seen it happen with teams I've been involved with. Team informs agent that they're moving their player... need to waive some clause. Agent says it won't be a problem. Teams calls back other team and says it shouldn't be a problem. In the meantime people talk and news gets out that a deal is done. etc.

In a lot of cases, the player is the last guy to find out... In the past, this all would happen away from prying eyes... so the player would have no clue and the team would inform him.

I don't know why more and more people are surprised.

DangerRed
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Toronto FC announced Thursday that they have acquired midfielder Terry Dunfield (http://www.torontofc.ca/player/terry-dunfield) from Vancouver Whitecaps FC in exchange for allocation money and future considerations.

"We are pleased to add Terry to our midfield, he is a passionate player and he will fit in well, " said Toronto FC Head Coach and Technical Director Aron Winter. "He has played well this season for Vancouver and we have seen first-hand what he is capable of."

Dunfield, 29, is a Canadian international midfielder that scored one goal and added three assists in 12 league games this season for Vancouver Whitecaps FC. Dunfield also scored one goal during the 2011 Nutrilite Canadian Championship in four starts. Dunfield has earned six international caps for Canada and scored his first international goal against Ecuador at BMO Field on June 1 of this year in an international friendly. Dunfield spent time with Manchester City in the club’s youth program before moves to Bury, Macclesfield Town, and Shrewsbury Town all in England. Dunfield joined Vancouver in 2010 while the team played in the USSF Division 2 Pro League.

Terry Dunfield
Position: Midfielder
Height: 5’7
Weight: 165
Birthdate: February 20, 1982
Birth Place/Hometown: Vancouver, British Columbia
Nationality: Canadian
Last Club: Vancouver Whitecaps FC
How Acquired: Acquired in trade with Vancouver on Thursday July 14, 2011
Pronunciation: “Dun-field”

pekduck
07-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Blame San Jose's coach for inappropriately spilling the beans. Has nothing to do with Winter.

why bring reason to a supporter's forum... lol

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:36 PM
Why should Cronin get to know before the player himself? I don't like the way they've treated Nana since they came in

Cronin's team was party to the trade. He could have tweeted Nana before it was technically even official.

- Scott

BeerBaron95
07-14-2011, 01:36 PM
Pieces of #(%&# s#it! That's how they conduct business, TEXT MESSAGES! MLS should REALLY put a stop to that! RIDICULOUS!

DEAL WITH IT!!!

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:36 PM
It says Winter called him a few minutes later. In this age of social media, it doesn't necessarily mean Winter took a long time to inform him.

- Scott

This.

Social media moves really fast.

It's something teams and leagues will have to adjust to in the future.

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:36 PM
Why should Cronin get to know before the player himself? I don't like the way they've treated Nana since they came in

In this day and age, many professional athletes with a much higher profile than Nana Attakora find out they've been traded via twitter or text messages, prior to being informed by their respective clubs, as result of information leaking to the media. I'm sure there was no malicious intent on Winter's part.

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 01:37 PM
Dont forget Yourassowski played decently at LB

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:37 PM
It's July 14 folks. Remember that. ;)

A French CB?

Don't tell me.....Tebily!

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:37 PM
In this age of social media, somebody from TFC should be a calling a traded player the second it happens, exactly so that this doesn't happen. It can be a flunky who says "Aron's busy, he'll call in a bit, but here's what's up".


I am not very upset about this and it's mostly because I am no longer surprised.

The truth is that to TFC, players come a distant second whereas other teams try very hard to make players feel part of the family. Mariner and Winter have been busy making movements all day I am sure it was not an intentional oversight, but I don't think it's meaningless either.

VoxPopuliCosmicum
07-14-2011, 01:37 PM
It's July 14 folks. Remember that. ;)

You just can't resist, can you?

Love ya, Roogs!

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:38 PM
You just can't resist, can you?

Love ya, Roogs!


Resist what?

I am pointing to more movements coming, and not necessarily just today.

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 01:38 PM
In this age of social media, somebody from TFC should be a calling a traded player the second it happens, exactly so that this doesn't happen. It can be a flunky who says "Aron's busy, he'll call in a bit, but here's what's up".

As Whoop said - often the word gets out before anything is even official these days. The team isn't going to say anything to the player until the deal is signed and sealed, in case things fall apart.

- Scott

London
07-14-2011, 01:39 PM
TFC in bidding war with southend United for RR



i kid

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:39 PM
As Whoop said - often the word gets out before anything is even official these days. The team isn't going to say anything to the player until the deal is signed and sealed, in case things fall apart.

- Scott

Actually, many teams do the players a favour and give them a heads up that a deal is in the works or pretty much done in order for these things not to happen. They don't need the ink to be dry in order to tell the player.

TFC Cityboy
07-14-2011, 01:39 PM
glad I got some work done this morning, this afternoon's fooked now!

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:40 PM
In this age of social media, somebody from TFC should be a calling a traded player the second it happens, exactly so that this doesn't happen. It can be a flunky who says "Aron's busy, he'll call in a bit, but here's what's up".

Guys get informed by their buddies before a trade is official or even finalized.

The team has to confirm the team with the other team and with the league. By the time that happens, someone else knows.

You'd be surprised. People in the sports world love to talk.

VoxPopuliCosmicum
07-14-2011, 01:40 PM
Resist what?

I am pointing to more movements coming, and not necessarily just today.

Thought you were dropping hints. My bad.

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 01:40 PM
A French CB?

Don't tell me.....Tebily!

I liked Tebily, even if his nickname was "bombscare".

TFC USA
07-14-2011, 01:44 PM
Was it Dunfield who was an absolute wreck (among others) in our game vs. Canada in the Gold Cup?

I hope he's at least good for club.

London
07-14-2011, 01:45 PM
the wiki people are fast LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Johnson_(soccer)

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:45 PM
btw before we crank up the Ryan Johnson celebration party, I just read that he is scoreless in 35 straight league games

also his mls player page is down, this has been a sure sign historically that a player is being traded (it happened to Tchani and Borman when the Dero trade was pending)....

http://www.mlssoccer.com/player/ryan-johnson

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 01:45 PM
Terry Dunfield isn't valued very much over at Vancouver. There's gotta be more to this.

Allocation Money aside, Vancouver is salivating over Kevin Aleman from our academy, hoping the "future considerations" is his signing. Perhaps we have some trade value afterall.

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:46 PM
Actually, many teams do the players a favour and give them a heads up that a deal is in the works or pretty much done in order for these things not to happen. They don't need the ink to be dry in order to tell the player.

Actually 99 times out of 100, a team will give a heads up to the player's agent first just in case a deal does fall apart.

I've never heard of a team giving a player a head's up that they were being traded unless said player requested a trade.

ACSertL
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
btw before we crank up the Ryan Johnson celebration party, I just read that he is scoreless in 35 straight league games

:lol: so he'll fit in here just nicely!

VoxPopuliCosmicum
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
Was it Dunfield who was an absolute wreck (among others) in our game vs. Canada in the Gold Cup?

I hope he's at least good for club.

Yup, but he played great for Canada against Ecuador @ BMO Field just before the GC, and many of us remarked that Canada looked ineffective after he was subbed for JDG in the 2nd half.

boomcha
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
From Jacob Peterson's twitter: On to greener pastures...

__wowza
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
Free pint for posting a photoshopped Dunfield with this years Vcup champs scarf on (once they're made of course).


http://i.imm.io/7t1o.jpeg

Ron Manager
07-14-2011, 01:48 PM
the wiki people are fast LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Johnson_(soccer)

More to do with being bored at work ;)

mastermixer
07-14-2011, 01:48 PM
So is Ryan Johnson a striker? Or can we play him on the wings?

London
07-14-2011, 01:48 PM
is dunfield available to play in CCL ???

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 01:49 PM
So is Ryan Johnson a striker? Or can we play him on the wings?

Striker, Left Winger

Beach_Red
07-14-2011, 01:49 PM
In this age of social media, somebody from TFC should be a calling a traded player the second it happens, exactly so that this doesn't happen. It can be a flunky who says "Aron's busy, he'll call in a bit, but here's what's up".


Yeah, but first the flunkie is working on one of those, "Red Alert, Houston You've Got A Problem," headlines and is looking up other words for "earthquake..."

kodiakTFC
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Yeah, but first the flunkie is working on one of those, "Red Alert, Houston You've Got A Problem," headlines and is looking up other words for "earthquake..."

I laughed out loud at my office. Weird looks :s.

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Actually 99 times out of 100, a team will give a heads up to the player's agent first just in case a deal does fall apart.

I've never heard of a team giving a player a head's up that they were being traded unless said player requested a trade.


This is what I meant. Their "camp" would know about a trade before it's finalized.

Oldtimer
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Yeah, but first the flunkie is working on one of those, "Red Alert, Houston You've Got A Problem," headlines and is looking up other words for "earthquake..."

"Winter shakes up the team by dealing with the 'Quakes."

Took 10 seconds.

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:52 PM
Any deal that involves Yallop and a CMNT player worries me.

Yallop knew Gerba, and knows who he should listen to regarding Nana.

Mango Kid
07-14-2011, 01:52 PM
We are going to need one of these to keep track of all the players that have come through Toronto in the 5 seasons of existance.

http://www.islam1.co/prodimages/g108_l.jpg

That's short a digit, at least.

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:54 PM
This is what I meant. Their "camp" would know about a trade before it's finalized.

That I agree with.

But it's not always the case. Could be a case that the agent didn't need to be involved.

For example, if Nana had something like a no movement clause, then he would have likely known something before hand because the team would need permission from the player to be moved.

But again, point being is that social media moves a lot faster than a trade does. Like Pete says, a tweet moves faster than a phone call.

BoltonTFC
07-14-2011, 01:54 PM
I am not very upset about this and it's mostly because I am no longer surprised.

The truth is that to TFC, players come a distant second whereas other teams try very hard to make players feel part of the family. Mariner and Winter have been busy making movements all day I am sure it was not an intentional oversight, but I don't think it's meaningless either.

It wasn't an oversight at all. As many others have said, someone on the other hand likely spilled it before it was even official. Not everything is a management conspiracy to treat Nana Attakora like crap.

__wowza
07-14-2011, 01:55 PM
I think this is disgraceful and another poor showing from Winter and co

it's the sports medias job to follow these stories 24/7, they always get there first.

winter and co were probably just in the midst of dealing with the fuckton of legal ramifications before mentioning it to nana. could you imagine him breaking it to him, only to find out that it wasnt a done deal?

Whoop
07-14-2011, 01:55 PM
Any deal that involves Yallop and a CMNT player worries me.

Yallop knew Gerba, and knows who he should listen to regarding Nana.

But didn't Gerba just get benched last week by Montreal for being out of shape?

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 01:55 PM
And I pretty much say that in my post. It wasn't intentional.

Stryker
07-14-2011, 01:55 PM
Ryan Johnson:

2010 MLS: Appeared in 27 games and made 19 starts … Scored one goal and notched a career-high eight assists

2009 MLS: Appeared in all 30 games with 27 starts and scored 11 goals and notched two assists … Named team’s Offensive MVP

2008 MLS: Signed just prior to 2008 season with San Jose after one season in Sweden … Started 13 of the 28 games he appeared ... Scored five goals and notched one assist
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Seems to have solid numbers. In a 4-3-3 he needs to have speed and be able to cross if he's to play LW.

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 01:56 PM
Ryan Johnson:

2010 MLS: Appeared in 27 games and made 19 starts Ö Scored one goal and notched a career-high eight assists

2009 MLS: Appeared in all 30 games with 27 starts and scored 11 goals and notched two assists Ö Named teamís Offensive MVP

2008 MLS: Signed just prior to 2008 season with San Jose after one season in Sweden Ö Started 13 of the 28 games he appeared ... Scored five goals and notched one assist
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Seems to have solid numbers. In a 4-3-3 he needs to have speed and be able to cross if he's to play LW.

He's definitely fast. That's for sure

dmorgans
07-14-2011, 01:57 PM
Maybe Winter had to take a piss when he got off the phone with the league.

ensco
07-14-2011, 01:58 PM
But didn't Gerba just get benched last week by Montreal for being out of shape?

Proves my point.

Yallop had his rights, knew he was a stiff, and moved him (to us).

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 01:58 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

Stryker
07-14-2011, 01:58 PM
:drum::party::party::cheers:

^ my reaction to losing Peterson....


who's "off to greener pastures" :rolleyes:

ryan
07-14-2011, 01:59 PM
http://i.imm.io/7t1o.jpeg

lol nicely done.


is dunfield available to play in CCL ???

Yep.

pekduck
07-14-2011, 01:59 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

not really, 3 injured players for 1 health player + cash + international spot is fair

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 01:59 PM
Sigh..

I need a new picture :(

pekduck
07-14-2011, 01:59 PM
Sigh..

I need a new picture :(

knew it! haha

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 02:00 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.


I stated this point in the "trade value" thread about not looking so microscopically at trades but look at the big picture. I am not as negative about this particular trade as you are.

I don't think it's the 3 TFC players for Johnson as much as it is 3 roster spots and cap space moved and replaced with 1 capable starter.

The other shoe drops when the trading is done.

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 02:00 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

beg to differ, dont forget we got RJ + Allocation + international spot

Gordon is oft injured and getting older
Nana couldnt reach an agreement with management, therefore would have been a free agent after this season
Peterson was overpaid for what he did

We see things differently

P-NUTZ
07-14-2011, 02:00 PM
dunfield is the same old short slow guy who missed a PK last weekend.

great we dump one useless guy, then basically pick up the another.

dont like this one at all.

will miss nana.

yellowfellow
07-14-2011, 02:00 PM
I don't think it's an oversight or lack of class. The most important thing is Winter called him personally. Winter could have been tied up with other parts of these transactions and took 10 minutes later to call Nana.

ryan
07-14-2011, 02:00 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

If that same cash translates into Dunfield, then you need to look at the deal as a 3 for 2 + Int'l Spot.

I think at the end though, Winter's goal was to move some bodies out that he no longer wanted and to free up finances to do what he does want to do.

ACSertL
07-14-2011, 02:00 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

Didn't we get the allocation money?

EDIT: Ahh, you bastards are faster than I am :lol:

Shakes McQueen
07-14-2011, 02:01 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

We got Johnson AND allocation AND an int'l roster spot. The allocation was flipped for Dunfield.

And you're dreaming if you think Peterson + cash is a good deal for San Jose, LOL. It better be a lot of cash.

- Scott

VoxPopuliCosmicum
07-14-2011, 02:01 PM
Sigh..

I need a new picture :(

My heart goes out to you

:hump:

ensco
07-14-2011, 02:01 PM
However!

Alan Gordon for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Nana Attakora for Ryan Johnson is fair.
Jake Peterson + Cash for Ryan Johnson is fair.

All three for Johnson is stupid. We got ripped off big time if this is the case.

You've got the dynamics backwards. This is about cap space. SJ probably had to take at least one of these guys, and the slot, to make the deal work.

ArmenJBX
07-14-2011, 02:01 PM
Now that Jacob Peterson has gone on to "greener pastures"

The new official "Best Player on TFC according to ArmenJBX" is

NATHAN STURGIS

Congratulations Nathan!

LittleOzzy
07-14-2011, 02:01 PM
is dunfield available to play in CCL ???

I assume so, I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed. I doubt rosters need to be set until the day before the first game.

MartinUtd
07-14-2011, 02:02 PM
"Winter shakes up the team by dealing with the 'Quakes."

Took 10 seconds.


My turn:

Seismic Waives At TFC Epicentre

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 02:02 PM
Now that Jacob Peterson has gone on to "greener pastures"

The new official "Best Player on TFC according to ArmenJBX" is

NATHAN STURGIS

Congratulations Nathan!


:lol:

When I heard Peterson was traded, I poured a 40 on the floor for you homeslice.

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 02:02 PM
dunfield is the same old short slow guy who missed a PK last weekend.

great we dump one useless guy, then basically pick up the another.

dont like this one at all.

will miss nana.

Dunfield wasn't acquired to take penalty kicks for TFC, and he is far from useless as a defensive presence in the midfield.

Hustle
07-14-2011, 02:03 PM
ArmenJBX - Who are you going to replace the Peterson pic with? :)

May I suggest: SEBASTIAN BACH!

pekduck
07-14-2011, 02:03 PM
Now that Jacob Peterson has gone on to "greener pastures"

The new official "Best Player on TFC according to ArmenJBX" is

NATHAN STURGIS

Congratulations Nathan!

oh crap.. this means Sturgis is the next player out :D

ManUtd4ever
07-14-2011, 02:03 PM
You've got the dynamics backwards. This is about cap space. SJ probably had to take at least one of these guys, and the slot, to make the deal work.

Exactly, and we also received one of SJ's international slots, which is substantial.

TFC07
07-14-2011, 02:04 PM
Dunfield now with TFC, would this mean JDG is gone now or by end of this year?

nimamalek
07-14-2011, 02:04 PM
Gordon would have been perfect as a sub for Koeverman, would be a mistake to trade him

Ossington Mental Youth
07-14-2011, 02:04 PM
honestly that dudes prob on his way out anyways.
just a matter of finding takers

Roogsy
07-14-2011, 02:04 PM
dunfield is the same old short slow guy who missed a PK last weekend.

great we dump one useless guy, then basically pick up the another.

dont like this one at all.

will miss nana.

There are two lasting memories of Dunfield this year. The screamer of a goal in the Canada game and that pathetic PK miss for the Whitecraps. He's no star, he's just an average player with good moments and bad. That's why I am "meh" on this one.