TFC vs Pachuca Thread

[sidney]

As we cant see the game anywhere online any updates (starting line-up, goals, discussion, etc...) would be much appreciated.

[LucaGol]

Wow, Pachuca's playing their big guns.

Damian Alvarez
Jaime Correa
Bruno Marioni
Christian Gimenez
Miguel Calero

Aside from Marioni who they just got, all of those players were integral in their Confed Cup win.

[LucaGol]

What the hell kind of formation are we playing?

The best I can make out is this...

-------------Sutton
---Nana-----James-----Brennan
--Rosenlund---Harmse---Hemming
Ricketts----Smith-------Robert
-----------Ibrahim

Or something like that....wow, talk about strange.

Or maybe Hemming is playing RB

-------------Sutton
Hemming--Brennan--James--Nana
------------Harmse
-----Rosenlund
-Ricketts--------------Robert
-----------Smith
---------------Ibrahim

[DigzTFC!]

I would be really interested to watch this game. Very curious about the young Canadians and Ibbe

[jloome]

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/scoreboard/gameLog.jsp?match=07052008_ZZZTOR

match tracker link, at least

[LucaGol]

I am extremely surprised that the young line-up we have right now...(and on offensive one at that) is holding Pachuca to nil-nil right now.

This is great experience for our young Canadian boys...Nana, Rosenlund, and Hemming.

[Corpand]

on a side note, anyone know of a stream to watch the chicago-craplumbus match? Wanna take a look at some of the chicago players, who knows, we might be getting one or two :)

[LucaGol]

Here's some fun facts...

Pachuca finished 8th overall (3rd in their division) in the 2008 Mexican Clausura, even though they won the concacaf champions cup.

Mexico has a very competitive first division, so I wouldn't really read too much into that.

[DigzTFC!]

on a side note, anyone know of a stream to watch the chicago-craplumbus match? Wanna take a look at some of the chicago players, who knows, we might be getting one or two

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-fox-soccer-channel.html

[TFC 420]

http://pages.tvunetworks.com/channels/index.jsp?g=3#

channel 21500

[Daveisonfire]

on a side note, anyone know of a stream to watch the chicago-craplumbus match? Wanna take a look at some of the chicago players, who knows, we might be getting one or two :)

http://www.justin.tv/psn_1 :canada:

[LucaGol]

Not the right thread, but damn, Columbus Chicago game actually has a good turn out.

Looks like a sellout.

[olegunnar]

Columbus will never get it.
They're getting out sung by 2-3 sections of section 8
Of course that's probably our fault too

[RealG-TFC]

As long as there is ppl in their stadium, I'm fine.

[James Oliphant]

Not the right thread, but damn, Columbus Chicago game actually has a good turn out.

Looks like a sellout.

That's why the painted the benches yellow...so even when it's not a sellout, it looks like one.

[olegunnar]

That's why the painted the benches yellow...so even when it's not a sellout, it looks like one.

And dont show the upper deck on TV

[RealG-TFC]

Let's pickup Carr

[jloome]

0-0 at halftime. Seems we're acquitting ourselves well. Robert's been active.

[olegunnar]

Let's pickup Carr

Conde's playing...for the first time in a long time

[DigzTFC!]

Let's pickup Carr

extremely one dimensional...we should get more for McBride. The more I think about it....I'm thinking we want Soumare. I totally understand why the wouldn't do that trade

[olegunnar]

0-0 at halftime. Seems we're acquitting ourselves well. Robert's been active.

Hard to tell from a match tracker since Robert is the free kick and corner taker. Could be everyone else is active but we don't know because it doesn't translate to the match tracker updates.

I have to say 0-0 is a lot better than I thought it'd be at the half.

[DigzTFC!]

I seriously thought Bruno Marioni would have tore us a new one by now....this is incredible for the young Canadian defenders

[dantdot]

Someone call someone at the game, ask them how we're doing :D

[RealG-TFC]

I just called. They told me that both teams are playing kind of crappy. Then again it's a woman I called so she might not be spot on.

[Raging Reggie]

I just called. They told me that both teams are playing kind of crappy. Then again it's a woman I called so she might not be spot on.


haha, that could be a loaded comment!

i wonder what the turnout is like at BMO field, should find that out. Never seen so many people trying to get rid of there tickets for this game and having such trouble as well....

[Detroit_TFC]

No subs at the half?

[TFCAlbertaGirl]

LOL was trying to ignore that comment....

[Detroit_TFC]

No subs at the half?

Edwards in for Sutton.

[Corpand]

oh well...so much for the 0-0

[DigzTFC!]

Edwards in for Sutton.

wonder if the goal is related...he has a lot to learn

[RealG-TFC]

damn..

[James Oliphant]

Julius! Julius James!
He so good that he got two names!

[RealG-TFC]

Damn, you got me excited for nothing\.

[James Oliphant]

You'll see it soon, folks...don't worry. :D

[shwade]

Goal? yeeeees

[James Oliphant]

And...there it is. :)

[Raging Reggie]

awesome, leave for break, come back to my CPU and its 1-1

[DigzTFC!]

Golazo!!!!! de James. Toronto FC es fuego........n GOOOOOAAAAALLLL

[RealG-TFC]

Julius!

[James Oliphant]

James header off a Robert corner.

[Raging Reggie]

hhahahah Jamie just noticed the avatar. Revenge of the nerds!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha

Clap your hands everybody, and everybody clap your hands!
We're Lambda Lambda Lambda and... Omega Mu
We come here on stage tonight to do a show for you

We've got a rockin rhythm and a high tech sound
That'll make you move your body down to the ground

We've got Poindexter on the violin
And Louis and Gilbert will be joinin' in

We've got Booger Presley on a mean guitar
And a rap by little old me Lamar

We've got Takashi beating on his gong
The boys and the Mu's are clapping along

And just when you thought you'd seen it all
Along comes a Lambda 4 ft tall!

So won't you come on out here, on the floor,
so we can work our bodies like never before
Break!

[James Oliphant]

Yeah Reg...it was on Showcase Action a couple days ago. Laughed my ass off watching it at work.

[RealG-TFC]

Wait, if this is a "cup" game, will it go to extra-time?!?!?

[James Oliphant]

And don't ask why it was on Showcase Action. Maybe because of the javelin throw... ;)

[Corpand]

We have had 5 shots on goal, thats frinkin amazing!

[olegunnar]

Why can't Gala get a run out?

[ilikemusic]

Wait, if this is a "cup" game, will it go to extra-time?!?!?

I hope so. It would be good practice.

I really wish this were on TV :(

[RedLion]

Information please! I'm dying here!

[Raging Reggie]

And don't ask why it was on Showcase Action. Maybe because of the javelin throw... ;)


That larma and his limp wristed throwing action single handedly won him that compitition. I think Lombardo has the limp wristed running action as well. He should give up footy and turn to Javelin throwing, he would be a natural.....

[mr k]

from globe's soccer blog called first half exciting

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/soccerblog

[James Oliphant]

No extra time...shootout after 90 minutes.

[RealG-TFC]

hahaha @ the stupid ppl leaving already

[Corpand]

Shootout babY!!

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

hahaha @ the stupid ppl leaving already




lol...dunno there is pk's! :)

[James Oliphant]

So...who's gonna take the shots for TFC?

Robert
Ricketts
Smith
Cunningham
Brennan

?

[Canadian Blue]

I will be the first to admit that I apparently was wrond about getting our ass handed to us. It will be interesting to hear if the people at the game think we could have won if we played our regular starting XI

[James Oliphant]

Brennan missed his penalty.

Edwards made a save though.

[James Oliphant]

Cunningham misses too.

Jebus.

[James Oliphant]

Edwards with a second save!!!

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Cunningham misses too.

Jebus.
not surprising

[James Oliphant]

Harmse misses!!! What the fuck?!?

[James Oliphant]

Pachuca wins, 4-3 on penalties.

[RealG-TFC]

OMG!

[shwade]

wtf...the guys can't even get a spot kick in?

[James Oliphant]

Well, there goes the Carlsberg Cup. *sigh*

As if I care. :D

[TheRenter]

pathetic

[Fernandinho]

harsme hit the crossbar!

[LucaGol]

Does Cunningham do anything right?

[RealG-TFC]

@cunningham: Gtfo Now!

[Corpand]

wow, was it maybe a fatigue thing?

2nd loss at BMO.

[shwade]

Does Cunningham do anything right?

At least his was on goal...Brennan's went high.

[RealG-TFC]

He clearly doesn't

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Seems like the boys put a good effort in though..hopefully they come up with a big result weds!!!....I want that game on the 22nd to mean something!!!!..:)


It will be madness!..if the Cl comes down to montreal and TFC on the last game!

[Chevy]

Did Cunny take his shirt off and run around until he realized his penalty was saved??

[TheRenter]

stop your Cunningham bashing already, that's what is truly pathetic

[Chevy]

I'm like a fat kid with a fudge brownie, I can't help myself.

[olegunnar]

Like I said earlier....I'm happy we didn't get blown out, but disappointed Gala could get a run out.
Oh well.
Wednesday is the huge game.

[LucaGol]

stop your Cunningham bashing already, that's what is truly pathetic

Oh ok, let me praise him for all his accomplishments while at our club....





(notice how I left a big blank space and said nothing)...wink wink


The guy's infatuated with himself. He talks about his past goals as if he's Pele.

[Canadian Blue]

3 missed penalties.........oh well it was only a friendly...but that is 3 loses in a row I think which is a bit concerning

[Detroit_TFC]

The game stats seems to say the match was pretty even but I'll wait to hear from people who saw the play of the game for their opinions.

I guess we know what drills the team will be doing this week.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Ive missed two home games this season....and both times TFC LOST!!

I'll be attending the San jOSe game!...Time to get the team back on track! :)

[James Oliphant]

What drills would those be? Penalties? Because we won't have to take penalties again for a long time, so I see no use in those.

[jloome]

Given the level of competition, seems like a pretty good result to me.

[DOMIN8R]

OK. I suspect I'm the first back from the game. 1st half lackluster effort from both sides. Pachuco are fast, small and great passers. Without too much detail I can tell you that we still need depth. But fuck - it was a friendly between halflings and mugles.

[Detroit_TFC]

What drills would those be? Penalties? Because we won't have to take penalties again for a long time, so I see no use in those.

I guess you are right.

[olegunnar]

OK. I suspect I'm the first back from the game. 1st half luckluter effort form both sides. Pachuco are fast, small and great passers. Without too much detail I can tell you that we still need depth. But fuck - it was a friendly between halflings and mugles.

Whats a halfling and a mugle? Is that hobbit stuff?
Don't make me google it. The CIA will put me on their nerd list

[DOMIN8R]

Forget my feeble attempt at humour. What I meant to say is these guys (P) looked like hobits only twice as wide and we had no magic - but in the second half we had heart (not much skill). I was fun to watch the last 30 minutes and the shoot out.

[DOMIN8R]

Different perspective: http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Soccer/article/455137

[olegunnar]

Forget my feeble attempt at humour. What I meant to say is these guys (P) looked like hobits only twice as wide and we had no magic - but in the second half we had heart (not much skill). I was fun to watch the last 30 minutes and the shoot out.

Just messing.
:canada:

[Toronto Ruffrider]

Not a bad result. A loss in a shootout technically goes down as a draw. It would've been nice if some of our subs got playing time - what manager only makes two substitutions in a friendly? Oh well.

Btw, the attendance at tonight's game was 18,097. That's pretty lousy when one considers that 16,000 tickets were as good as sold months ago. Only 2,000 of the remaining 4,000 ducats got picked up. TFC is going to have to lower its prices if it wants to sell out these friendlies.

[rocker]

altho a 90% full stadium is probably fine for them.

[TFC OZZ]

I thought I'd get this out there, I think Robert should have been the man of the match; I thought he had a magnificent game which was highlighted by his shot from half, and that MAGNIFICENT free kick that just barely msised. I thought he showed great hussle today too. Honorable mentions go out to Ibbe, Edwards, Sutton, HARMSE (YES THAT'S RIGHT! HE HAD A GREAT GAME), and Ricketts.

[ilikemusic]

Btw, the attendance at tonight's game was 18,097. That's pretty lousy when one considers that 16,000 tickets were as good as sold months ago. Only 2,000 of the remaining 4,000 ducats got picked up. TFC is going to have to lower its prices if it wants to sell out these friendlies.

Yup.

$70 is the cheapest ticket available on ticketmaster.
:smilielol5:

Who are they trying to kid?

[sidvan]

Rosenlund really struggled tonight. Consistently playing the ball poorly and making poor decisions. He gave up the ball far too much.

[DOMIN8R]

Attendance, supporters chanting and passion on the pitch for the second half was better than I thought it would be.

[DOMIN8R]

think Robert should have been the man of the match; I thought he had a magnificent game which was highlighted by his shot from half, and that MAGNIFICENT free kick that just barely msised. (YES THAT'S RIGHT! HE HAD A GREAT GAME), and Ricketts.

Agreed.

[Footie-11]

Damn i wished robert scored from half.. that goalie just pissed me off for some reason.
I thought Ibbe played well (alot better than i expected) and even Harmse had a good game... to bad about the penalty at the end.

Oh well!

[torfchamilton]

Sorry, I had to say it Harmse is shite. I can't stand him. Not very good on teh ball, very clumsy in tackles and really does not do much.

[bobtfc]

Back from the game and it was frustrating. I liked Robert in a more central role, he held the game up and distributed appropriately; it seems a better fit than on the wing.

Cunny - what can I say. I don't know what is wrong with him. During half-time he was practicing taking a cross and placing it on net (and he couldn't get it on target).

During the second half:


he had a beautiful cross onto the foot inside the 6 and he managed to tap it wide
he had a nice ball put up the field for him to chase but he checked his watch, the linesman, defenders (to make sure linesman was right, and that he had an opportunity) and our team (to see if someone else could run) before he turned on it. For a quick guy, he lost to a defender who had to run an angle.
I'll give him credit for the PK, he put it on target

Cunny - we want your success, we cheer for it, but we can't play the ball for you.

[DOMIN8R]

That goalie pissed you off because he was dressed like a pirate - aaargh!

Fuck did we ever give him a hard time in 115. He was laughing and looking at us like he was watching stand up comedy. At least up until the shootout. Then the fans got nasty and so did he. He invited us on to the pitch between shots - and not in a nice way. We definitly got into his head.

[DOMIN8R]

Harmse had a good moment or two but overall he was a liability. He needs to be replaced.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Was a good game (after the second half, first was crap). Our boys need to chase guys down especially because Pachuca seemed to give up the ball quite easily, that was quite frustrating at times. Rosenlund defo struggled which was a bit saddening, Hemming played so so, had his moments. Gotta say that Robert did really well as did Ricketts. The two players that stuck out for me were Harmse and Smith. The yellow card for Harmse was bullshit (odd that isnt it?). Great to say we didnt get outplayed.

As for Pachucas goalie, we were tempted to scream 'CHEMO' but instead screamed 'Donde esta (hair, ive forgotten the word in spanish, people were kind enough to supply that) as well as baldy. During the shootout dude was SPAZZING cuz of some shit people were screaming at him. It was amazing.

[Carts]

Oh that tender from Pachuca asked for it and got it... Up until the penalties, when he was worried.... LOL

Carts...

[woolly]

Just got back myself. For me Hemming was MoM; he was constantly running his nuts off and linking up well with Smith. Harmse was hit and miss, Roseland was the lone disappointment out of the rookie players.

Cunny... What can I say? A striker that can't put in a PK....

I can see why Lombardo would consider asking to leave. Ibbe has gobs of talent and is half his age. If we can keep this kid, he's going to be huge for us.

[bhoybobby]

Goodbye Cunny, fucking useless.

Jarrod, opportunity knocked & you never answered.

I liked the young 16 year old, some nice touches.

Rickett's why does he always turn inside?

Robert, good when he feels like it, Wish he felt like it more often

[Laurignano]

I have no comment for cunny. That is all.

[windsorlad111]

Cuntingham. and it all comes down to some ego centric twat who puts his goals scored on his shirt.

he's a twat.

[andyc]

Cunny - bye bye for sure. He never looked like he could score that penalty nevermind from open play...

Harmse almost had me sold in the first half, but sucked in the second half and fucked up the penalty... Time to say goodbye too.

MoM for me was Robert - He ran, chased, passed, and I would have loved him to score from our half against the biker boy goalie!

[James Oliphant]

I'm so glad Cunny missed the penalty. Remember his bullshit hands-on-hips sulking act when Samuel took the penalty in Columbus?

http://www.thescore.ca/blogs/footy/index.asp?name=footy/2008/04/i_think_someone.html#comment
Yeah...I knew that you would.

[Roogsy]

Robert and Ibbe had great games. It was my first chance at seeing Ibrahim and I was impressed. Kid worked his ass off.

Cunny and Harmse were the worst players out there. Harmse especially. I hate to rag on a Canadian international, but this guy really stinks.

[TFC Cityboy]

If I never see that lazy twat Cunningham in a TFC shirt again it'll be too soon. That penalty was embarassing. My 7 year old would have done better!
Ah well, my life-long dreams of TFC winning the Carlsberg Cup dashed once more :(

[Hooligan69]

Pachuca had to beat us on penalties, at least that's some consolation in what was a friendly game for a pointless Carlsberg Cup. I certainly won't be losing any sleep over our performance tonight.

[Mr. Bigby]

Harmse played like absolute shite - stolling around the pitch with his head down looking for spare change that might have fallen out of someones pocket! He was flat footed, and with very few exceptions didn't run faster than a feeble trot most of the game. He was as mobile as a post, and for most of the game was looking bewildered by the action going on around him. Harmse was utter crap, and that's being generous!

[Cambridge_Red]

No complaints from me I had a great day/night you can't be pissed it was a friendly and it was nice to see new faces. Ibby was fucking brilliant I like the young lad and hope to see him soon. Good to see familiar faces at shoeless great night.

[Angelo1405]

*desperate look on face*...any Flairs ? smoke bombs ? how did our supporters do when it was penalty time, TELL ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roogsy]

The atmosphere was great. From the NEE on one side to the south end supporters singing the whole game long.

And it got REALLY loud during the penalties.

For a friendly...it was lots of fun.

[Troll]

It's too bad we didn't have Colin Samuel for the spot kicks...

[James Oliphant]

Let's try to get this right from the start, folks....Abdus Ibrahim's nickname is "Ibee". Not "Ibbe" or "Ibby".

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to set the record straight. :)

[Mr. Bigby]

From Section 107 the voices from the south end were loud and impressive! It's also nice to see the south-east sections really starting to get into it as well. Everyone sounded great all game, and the atmosphere was fantastic during the penalties. A job well done...

[Cambridge_Red]

Let's try to get this right from the start, folks....Abdus Ibrahim's nickname is "Ibee". Not "Ibbe" or "Ibby".

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to set the record straight. :)

Thanks for the clarification :)

[Pachuco]

I don't see how people are saying Ibbey had a great game?

Yes, he's 16, but come on, he by no means had a great game. I'll give him credit when credit is due, it wasn't today. I think sometimes people fall in love with the idea that he's a 16 year old with lots of potential. You want to talk about someone hussling, Smith freeking hussled his ass off today.

[ExiledRed]

Ibrahim's a quick little bastard, if he was cocky too, he might have scored one.

[Cambridge_Red]

I don't see how people are saying Ibbey had a great game?

Yes, he's 16, but come on, he by no means had a great game. I'll give him credit when credit is due, it wasn't today. I think sometimes people fall in love with the idea that he's a 16 year old with lots of potential. You want to talk about someone hussling, Smith freeking hussled his ass off today.

I really think he did hustle though also. Thats why I said he impressed me. I had no expectations and for me he put himself about. For no game experience with the team he played quite well in my opinion. It would be nice to see him again sometime.

[ExiledRed]

I really think he did hustle though also. Thats why I said he impressed me. I had no expectations and for me he put himself about. For no game experience with the team he played quite well in my opinion. It would be nice to see him again sometime.

The kid had a great run out today. He was quick and asked a few questions of Pachuca's defence.

Like I said, if he had a bit of experience behind him, he would have tried to slot that one in instead of squaring it through two defenders, and if he had, we'd be screaming for him to replace Cunny. It was a great play that got him there, and he played it with confidence, until he squared it that is.

[Cambridge_Red]

The kid had a great run out today. He was quick and asked a few questions of Pachuca's defence.

Like I said, if he had a bit of experience behind him, he would have tried to slot that one in instead of squaring it through two defenders, and if he had, we'd be screaming for him to replace Cunny. It was a great play that got him there, and he played it with confidence, until he squared it that is.

Like you said experience matters. He's still a youngin lets hope we can keep him.

[Nodoubtguy]

That goalie pissed you off because he was dressed like a pirate - aaargh!

Fuck did we ever give him a hard time in 115. He was laughing and looking at us like he was watching stand up comedy. At least up until the shootout. Then the fans got nasty and so did he. He invited us on to the pitch between shots - and not in a nice way. We definitly got into his head.

lol....I was laughing when he turned around to the "Cohones" line

[Cambridge_Red]

...so anyone notice no Lombardo on the bench or lineup pack your bags son.

[Lucky Strike]

Better result than I anticipated. In my books, this is a 1-1 draw and the shootout doesn't count. After all, this game can't be both a friendly AND a cup game. It has to be one or the other despite it being advertised as both. So, it's a draw for my money and Cunningham still can't score.

[Pachuco]

I had a blast at the game. I honestly expected nothing from this game.

* I thought there may be more Mexican then TFC fans in the stands and that wasn't the case.
* I thought we would lose during regular time and that wasn't the case.

I really like the way Nana played, thought he commanded that back line pretty well.

Also, props to Julius James for scoring his second header. He now has more goals then Lombardo ever had as a striker.

Roselund was invisible.

Ibbey was ok, he's 16, needs time.

Smith was crazy energetic today.

Robert was a beast today, even defended.

oh, an Cunny still sucks and still misses open nets. That's my drunken analysis. good night :)

[Blizzard]

Sorry, I had to say it Harmse is shite. I can't stand him. Not very good on teh ball, very clumsy in tackles and really does not do much.

Were you at the game tonight?

He played very well and looked very confident carrying the ball. He took a much more positive roll tonight and worked well with his teammates.

He was a step up over the recent play of Mo Edu.

[ilikemusic]

Did they do a trophy presentation at the end?:p

[Red CB Toronto]

Did they do a trophy presentation at the end?:p

Yes they did, Pachuca actually looked excited when they were presented it, they jumped around and cheered.

[Pachuco]

Were you at the game tonight?

He played very well and looked very confident carrying the ball. He took a much more positive roll tonight and worked well with his teammates.

He was a step up over the recent play of Mo Edu.

Gotta agree with that. Harmse played extremely well tonight. In fact, I don't see how Edu can start over Harmse anymore. I can't believe I just said that :eek:

[egoodwin]

let me just say that from 127, those green spots in 112 looked terrible

[Bobo]

Ive missed two home games this season....and both times TFC LOST!!

I'll be attending the San jOSe game!...Time to get the team back on track! :)

Werrd

[bgnewf]

thoughts on the evening:

1) Boby Brasz should be some serious Death Row Records MC...serious karoake stylings

2) Great time at the Dufferin Gate, before and after the match

3) Ibrahim and James were men if the match for me. Ibby had pace and positioning all night long. James scored a great goal. Guaranteed folks..after Mo Edu, James will be the next off to to Europe. n the next couple of years.

$) Great job by the south end tonight. With respect, RPB Seemed to be a step ahead tonight., Props to Jack and hiod boyd doing a great job tonight.

6) Were there any untras on site tonight

7) George from NEE should be never allowed again to sing in public.

8) They were better players, but we had better conditioning.

Cheers

Bgnewf

[TFC OZZ]

I Can't for the life of me figure out why you guys are giving Harmse such a hard time. He had a great game.

[Broadview]

I Can't for the life of me figure out why you guys are giving Harmse such a hard time. He had a great game.

I agree...that was the best game I think I've even seen him play. He seemed to take the ball from them more than he gave it to them. I've done a complete 180 in my opinion of him since his misadventure DC. Never would have thought it could happen but I actually like him now. Next time Edu's running around all invisible-like, I'd like to see JC sub him out to send the kid a message.

I don't even think Harmse deserved that card either. Looked like he was fouled but since he knew he was going to be fouled he leaned in and there was a helluva hard hit. I could hear the "thwap" of bodies hitting one another way up in the second deck. I'm not sure who the ref was but I imagine he's hip to Harmse's rep.

[LucaGol]

Did we really lose yesterday?....take a look at Kevin Harmse's pk at 6:28.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4YeVukDgG0

Call me crazy, but if you pause it at just the right time, it looks like that ball bounces inside the net.

Plus the guy shooting the video apparently thinks so as well.

It's a good thing this wasnt the CCL, or tne NCC pks....we coulda got screwed.

[Derko]

For what my opinion means, I thought the kids and TFC vets put on an entertaining match.

[Mr. Bigby]

I Can't for the life of me figure out why you guys are giving Harmse such a hard time. He had a great game.


What freakin' game were you AT!! Harmse strolled around the pitch for great gobs of time with his head down, seamingly unaware of WHERE the play was or what he should do! He had ONE good run up the side and little else. For most of the match he seemed timid and unsure, and judging by the penalty, he's been watchinig Cunningham FAR to long. I'd call him a dick, but that would be insulting to most dicks :taz:

[olegunnar]

Did we really lose yesterday?....take a look at Kevin Harmse's pk at 6:28.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4YeVukDgG0

Call me crazy, but if you pause it at just the right time, it looks like that ball bounces inside the net.

Plus the guy shooting the video apparently thinks so as well.

It's a good thing this wasnt the CCL, or tne NCC pks....we coulda got screwed.

screwed by the turf again.
it does look like it goes in but then takes a crazy superball bounce off the turf and up into the stratosphere

[London]

^^^ that looks to have gone in!!!!
it looks to bounce quickly off the ground and come back out!!

[Wilbix]

My seat is in 119 right on the goal line, and the ball was definitely in. Everyone around me was freaking out, Edwards was freaking out, but the linesman was napping and didn't move. Why's he on the goal line if not to call a goal on that one!

[Carter]

Screwed by the Refs again... Just like in the Whitecap game...
*single tear*

[TFC John]

What freakin' game were you AT!! Harmse strolled around the pitch for great gobs of time with his head down, seamingly unaware of WHERE the play was or what he should do! He had ONE good run up the side and little else. For most of the match he seemed timid and unsure, and judging by the penalty, he's been watchinig Cunningham FAR to long. I'd call him a dick, but that would be insulting to most dicks :taz:

QFT
There was one point in the second half when Nana was under pressure from a striker and he passed the ball to Harmse. Harmse was on cloud 9 looking completely the other way he only noticed the ball at the last second after Nana yelled at him. All he did was kick it straight back to his defender.

Also, has Harmse ever failed to get a card in a game he has played for us?

[Hooligan69]

It certainly does look to be a goal in that video clip.

[Red CB Toronto]

Harmse has to go, he is too much of a hot head for his own good and more importantly his team, he is a liability and needs to be replaced.

[Carts]

A lot of people have said in other threads in other games that we seem to play to the level of our opponent... Was last night another example...? (2nd half)...

I watched from the bunker, its tough to analyse or give many thoughts on the game from that vantage point - so I'm wondering, did we infact play to the level of our opponent again last night...?

In the Vancouver game, we were shyte in the opening half - and played down to them many thought...

Thanks all,
Carts...

[reggie]

fun game...again we can only score on set plays..
robert to me was MOM,cunny wow misses a tap in bye bye cunny....
hemming was good,never makes a bad pass,can't score smith running around with his head cut off,nana, james, and jimmy had good games...

[Red CB Toronto]

I was really impressed with Pachuca's passing, it was pinpoint, like tic tac toe, Toronto has some great chances, just did not finish.

[MFBODD]

That looked in... The officials should be able to see that. Nice!

Cunny sucks again. Seriously, he's missed so many chances it's beyond comical.

[noochie]

From my vantage point...

I thought Ibee had a great game however as has been mentioned he needs some experience. There is no doubt that he has some serious natural ability and will be dangerous with time.

Harmse to me looked 50/50. At times he made great plays and others he looked surprised when passes were coming his way and generally not focused. Contrary to popular belief so far I didn't think that whole ball got across the line.

Edwards was great in the PK's and he really does have some great instincts for a really really young keeper.

Rosenlund needs some work :) mildly put. And Carver was seriously pissed at him for constantly turning backwards and not pushing the ball up the pitch.

Robert was great last night all around. I wish that he did catch Calero on that long ball, it was a beauty to watch.

I was really impressed that overall TFC was able to match the pace from Pachuca. I am not sure that they were really going full speed but the young guys matched them well.

[TFC Via Buffalo]

What freakin' game were you AT!! Harmse strolled around the pitch for great gobs of time with his head down, seamingly unaware of WHERE the play was or what he should do! He had ONE good run up the side and little else. For most of the match he seemed timid and unsure, and judging by the penalty, he's been watchinig Cunningham FAR to long. I'd call him a dick, but that would be insulting to most dicks :taz:

Thank you a 1000xs over. I said the EXACT same thing to my buddy last night. He never seemed to know where the ball was half the game. Last time I disliked a player this much it was Valez, so hopefully he can turn it around just like Marco did.

And, Mr. Cunningham, I'm an avid, almost blind supporter of the US guys on our team during their ups and downs. But, you just need to go away and not come back.



Ever.

[Yeoman]

I thought TFC didn't attack enough the first half. second half they seemed more agressive to me.
they played hard don't get me wrong.
there was a gentleman in front of me that has two of his kids in 113 to see the match from the supporters section. since I've got my one paw in a splint still (oh it better be coming off tomorrow or I'm just taking it off!) I couldn't exactly throw streamers that well. so I handed em off to his kids, and let the one kid wear my scarf.
to me that made the game for me just seeing the smiles on the kids faces when I did that for em.

[stretchthetruth]

that harmse PK was in for sure.. my dad was freaking out. we're in 110 right on the goal line, and it looked like the ref was shaking his head after it hit the bar, and not paying attention to the bounce... good game, really entertaining, but we should have won it...

[Broadview]

I couldn't exactly throw streamers that well. so I handed em off to his kids, and let the one kid wear my scarf.
to me that made the game for me just seeing the smiles on the kids faces when I did that for em.

Awww...warm fuzzies. Good on ya.

[mighty_torontofc_2008]

TFC playing their reserves played Pachuca tough and deserved a better fate against the current Champions of Concacaf. sad part was i had to leve earlt half was through the penalty kicks to catch the go...come on TFC get games back to 7pm FFS

[Big Bruva]

Pachuca played kept the ball well and had good touches but that was expected but they kept the ball without a purpose a lot of times.

I thought TFC played well especially considering the line up. If the likes of Robbo, Amado (who sat next to me in the stands watching) and Wynee were playing they could of won.

[Red CB Toronto]

TFC playing their reserves played Pachuca tough and deserved a better fate against the current Champions of Concacaf. sad part was i had to leve earlt half was through the penalty kicks to catch the go...come on TFC get games back to 7pm FFS

You did not want to wait for the next one, there was one after that.

[mighty_torontofc_2008]

You did not want to wait for the next one, there was one after that.


would have missed the greyhound connection to brantford, dam gryhound for leaving TO at 10;30 pm...they should leave a n hr later for sports fans, concerts....or COme TFC if you need penaltys might be played start the game at 7pm i could have seen it all then.... on the good side it was great meeting Velez Marshall, and guevara in 114 thank the fans for goming out has a good chat, asked one player (wont mention+ how he like the field turf...they don't so the TFC players son't like it come on city of TO pot the grass in!!!

[JDG]

that harmse PK was in for sure.. my dad was freaking out. we're in 110 right on the goal line, and it looked like the ref was shaking his head after it hit the bar, and not paying attention to the bounce... good game, really entertaining, but we should have won it...

I have the video evidence that we were robbed on that one. I took video of the whole series of penalties, and just reviewed the video - It isn't debateable - my video shows very clearly that the ball went in.

[Hooligan69]

I have the video evidence that we were robbed on that one. I took video of the whole series of penalties, and just reviewed the video - It isn't debateable - my video shows very clearly that the ball went in.

That would be, I believe, the fourth game in a row now that we've been screwed out of a goal.

[zeelaw]

Any highlights package out there yet?

[ilikemusic]

Any highlights package out there yet?

Ya. I want to see the Cup presentation. :p

[Nodoubtguy]

wow....that Harmse shot looks in on the replay. I was standing right behind the net during PK's and I thought it was in for sure....

[Angelo1405]

in my opinion, this was a great chance to Whistle, on the opposing players kick, like the Euro's....

[Rudi]

in my opinion, this was a great chance to Whistle, on the opposing players kick, like the Euro's....
We booed instead.

The sound doesn't come through on that shitty YouTube clip, but it was LOUD during the penalties, likely the loudest I've ever heard it at BMO.

[egoodwin]

yeah the booing was rather loud

[Goalie20]

My daughter and I were in 113 right in front of a few Pachua fans. The good natured cheering and comments going back and forth were really enjoyable. It was a great atmosphere to watch a game in. Before the start of the game a few of the players were in the section shaking hands and getting their pictures taken with the fans. Guevara chatted with the Mexican fans and then sat down behind us and I was able to speak with him for minute or so, I think he would have been content to watch the game form the stands but was told it was time to leave.

I don't understand why Pachuca pulled number 7 off of the left wing and moved him into the centre. He was giving all of the defenders a headache in the first half. The second half was much better to watch.

[AL-MO]

I had a great time Saturday night....I wasn't expecting much from the game, but i loved the atomosphere....takes it to a new level when you are playing a team from a different country...And I thought the PK's were a nice touch.

[nancymiranda]

Gotta give a shout out to Flush and I think Jack who was drumming on Big Red.
A family that has 4 seasons seats beside mine couldn't believe the energy coming from 112. When I told them who Flush was and pointed out the Big Red Drum - they were in amazement! Considering how the drumming and singing kept up through the whole game. And... they said it was easy to follow the chants if you kept an eye on Flush - So... guys - GRRRREEEEEEEAAAAAAT Job!

[Afra]

Indeed - good job with the drum. There was a guy in 109 leading chants as well but it is amazing how far apart we get on the timing - we need more practise I suppose. It was pretty good atmosphere, for a friendly, we just needed a tailgate to get properly primed!

TFC did a good job considering how many usual starters were sitting. P seemed pretty happy to win that trophy (I just received the official after the game picture and they are still screaming hugging each other!), I guess TFC gave them more of a game than they thought! They took the trophy, though. It was going to be displayed on the Carlsberg patio.

[Blizzard]

I have the video evidence that we were robbed on that one. I took video of the whole series of penalties, and just reviewed the video - It isn't debateable - my video shows very clearly that the ball went in.

Can you do a freeze frame of the video at the point the ball hits the ground?

It needs to be printed up and sent to Petrescu!