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ManUtd4ever
05-27-2011, 08:54 AM
TFC has to start winning matches at BMO Field with all the road fixtures that lie ahead. Based on their form all season, Philadelphia will not be an easy task. This match will be a true litmus test against one of the best teams in MLS.

Let's hope the weather holds up for this one.

TFC 2 Union 1

:scarf:

mastermixer
05-27-2011, 09:20 AM
How is Philly such a good team in only their second year?
You would think it would take at least 5 or 6 years to become a contending team in this league. :scarf:

Azerban
05-27-2011, 09:46 AM
How is Philly such a good team in only their second year?
You would think it would take at least 5 or 6 years to become a contending team in this league. :scarf:
the trick is to go with the two year plan, not the five year plan

Yohan
05-27-2011, 09:54 AM
Trick is to have a team chemistry...

Ossington Mental Youth
05-27-2011, 09:57 AM
and a coach/manager who knows what they are doing as well as knows the league.
Nowak is just that.
Mojo was not.
Thats over and we are in a new place

daner90
05-27-2011, 12:20 PM
The drainage system under the field at BMO is going to be working overtime to have the pitch dry for 12:30 tomorrow...

ManUtd4ever
05-27-2011, 12:23 PM
^^ Yup, it's going to be like Wet n' Wild all over the pitch.

DichioTFC
05-27-2011, 12:43 PM
From the Philly Union site:

http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/primary_image-620x350/image_nodes/2011/05/scouting.jpg

Talk about squad turnover

Ossington Mental Youth
05-27-2011, 12:47 PM
oh yeah, i played last years fifa the other day and there were only 2 players that were the same.

Blessington
05-27-2011, 01:52 PM
TFC website Toronto Takes On East Leading Union page (and MLSE Red Alert): "good news is that the team is getting points from 75% of its matches (two wins and six draws from 12 games)".
Do the math.

maninb
05-27-2011, 01:55 PM
I think Philly has been over-achieving...Ruiz has been a surprise for them...IMO they'll be falling back to Earth very soon...

TFCRegina
05-27-2011, 02:02 PM
TFC website Toronto Takes On East Leading Union page (and MLSE Red Alert): "good news is that the team is getting points from 75% of its matches (two wins and six draws from 12 games)".
Do the math.

lol. Math fail.

Pachuco
05-27-2011, 04:07 PM
TFC website Toronto Takes On East Leading Union page (and MLSE Red Alert): "good news is that the team is getting points from 75% of its matches (two wins and six draws from 12 games)".
Do the math.

With Champions League games it's 73%.

Really though, what a stupid number to brag about.

pdogg
05-27-2011, 04:51 PM
For the tailgate tomorrow, is that a members only event? If someone wants to sign-up, can we do it there?

DichioTFC
05-27-2011, 05:08 PM
TFC website Toronto Takes On East Leading Union page (and MLSE Red Alert): "good news is that the team is getting points from 75% of its matches (two wins and six draws from 12 games)".
Do the math.


lol. Math fail.

someone had to do it.

http://i51.tinypic.com/vypcht.png

ensco
05-27-2011, 05:20 PM
Wow, I can't believe I'm the first to mention that this is the return of.... the legendary TFC striker...ladies and gentlemen....

Carlos Ruiz!

Guess what?

He thinks that anything less than three points in Toronto tomorrow would be an "embarassment".
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/soccer/20110527_Kerith_Gabriel_.html

bgnewf
05-27-2011, 05:39 PM
The Pitch Is Ready - Will Toronto FC Be?

http://viewfromthesouthstands.com/2011/05/the-pitch-is-ready-will-toronto-fc-be/

The pitch at BMO Field has recovered from the Voyageurs Cup Final on Wednesday. Has TFC recovered enough to secure three points against the Philadelphia Union on Saturday?

Auzzy
05-27-2011, 05:59 PM
Ruiz in town, secure the Gatorade jugs!!!

ensco
05-28-2011, 07:42 AM
All time quietest pre game thread

Go TFC

denime
05-28-2011, 07:59 AM
For the tailgate tomorrow, is that a members only event? If someone wants to sign-up, can we do it there?

member or not, just drop by meet the boys and girls worm up with few chants and get ready for the game

ManUtd4ever
05-28-2011, 08:26 AM
Sign of the times...

Yesterday, my buddy that bought seasons tickets with me a few years ago and usually comes to games with me had to cancel at the last minute. I then called a few of my friends, both my brothers, my Dad, and no one was willing cancel their plans on short notice to watch today's game (free of charge of course).

I had to resort to forcing my wife (who hates sports and refused many TFC games in the past) to come watch the game with me today.

Oh well...:drinking:

:scarf:

flatpicker
05-28-2011, 08:32 AM
Quick question folks.
If I haven't got my tickets on me,
Can I just show my ID at BMO and have them printed off at ticket window?

Auzzy
05-28-2011, 08:54 AM
Quick question folks.
If I haven't got my tickets on me,
Can I just show my ID at BMO and have them printed off at ticket window?

Yes, I did that a few times last year. As long as the tickets are in your name in should be fine. They can charge you $5 for that, but they don't always do it. Also, leave a bit of time for it: they usually have to look it up on a computer or something, and if it's busy in the ticket office, it can take a while.

flatpicker
05-28-2011, 09:01 AM
^ Thanks.

MartinUtd
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
Quick question folks.
If I haven't got my tickets on me,
Can I just show my ID at BMO and have them printed off at ticket window?


I usually call the box office and ask for Will call. I've done it within an hour of the match before but they always act like its this impossible task.

Strange vibe for the match today. I get the impression most people are still focused on the caps game. We can't forget this is a big game against an eastern rival....and Ruiz is a twat who mailed it in for what little time he spent here. Seriously, fuck that guy.

So who's available anyway? I've lost track of all the injuries and fatigue factors.

craigtfc
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
What channel is the game on?

menefreghista
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
What channel is the game on?

This game has a black out...

No, I meant its on Gol TV.

:D

craigtfc
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
I'm looking at gol Tv and it doesn't say its on....weird

menefreghista
05-28-2011, 09:40 AM
I'm looking at gol Tv and it doesn't say its on....weird

There online schedule lists it: http://www.goltv.ca/

Next week TSN returns, thankfully.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Missing this one because of strep throat so will have to watch from home. I don't know about you guys, but it's getting really difficult to care anymore...

sully
05-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Sign of the times...

Yesterday, my buddy that bought seasons tickets with me a few years ago and usually comes to games with me had to cancel at the last minute. I then called a few of my friends, both my brothers, my Dad, and no one was willing cancel their plans on short notice to watch today's game (free of charge of course).

I had to resort to forcing my wife (who hates sports and refused many TFC games in the past) to come watch the game with me today.

Oh well...:drinking:

:scarf:

I'm in a similar circumstance. Ah well, we'll remember down the road when there all asking again who deserves it...

[NBF]
05-28-2011, 10:27 AM
I think when the Philadelphia Union joined the league they made it a priority to have a solid defense.

I think when the Vancouver Whitecaps joined the league they made it a priority to have a solid defense.

**Other than bringing in new left and right backs he really hasnt solidified the centre backs, but of course he's making use of our DP defensive midfielder infront of our odd pair of pylons.

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 10:45 AM
;1308447']I think when the Philadelphia Union joined the league they made it a priority to have a solid defense.

I think when the Vancouver Whitecaps joined the league they made it a priority to have a solid defense.

**Other than bringing in new left and right backs he really hasnt solidified the centre backs, but of course he's making use of our DP defensive midfielder infront of our odd pair of pylons.

I think when Toronto joined the league they made it a priority to have a cheap defense. And a cheap offense. And a cheap midfield.

rocker
05-28-2011, 10:52 AM
;1308447']I think when the Philadelphia Union joined the league they made it a priority to have a solid defense.


well, it didn't work for Philly last year... fixing their defense this year and bringing in a top notch keeper has made the difference quickly, in year 2. Mondragon is a stop gap measure for a couple seasons, since he's old, but it worked for Seattle (Keller).

they also seemed to keep a lineup together for year 2, and brought in a veteran up front (Ruiz).

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 10:59 AM
BTW, Molinaro reporting solid signs of improvement at TFC:


JohnMolinaro John Molinaro
In the press box at BMO Field ahead of #TFC-Philly game. Great news: the coffee is hot for the 1st time this season!!!

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 11:01 AM
Starting XI


#TFC lineup: Frei, Eckersley, Harden, Williams, Gargan, JDG, Yourassowsky, Tchani, Santos, Soolsma, Plata

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 11:06 AM
Bench:


Borman back for #TFC, on the bench w/ Kocic, Attakora, Cann, Borman, Sturgis, Stevanovic & Martina .. #TorontoFC #MLS

JuliquE
05-28-2011, 11:13 AM
Starting XI

TY for this and your last post.

C'mon you redS!°

Huyton
05-28-2011, 11:17 AM
Stuck at work...anyone know if there's a stream available?

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:18 AM
Here I come with the first 'anyone know of a stream' question of the pre-game thread.

MyP2P's got nothing.

Darlofletch
05-28-2011, 11:22 AM
usector where are you? 112 is full, 113 is not!

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 11:24 AM
usector where are you? 112 is full, 113 is not!

Guys, that's not fair. It was one individual, who has been told that it was inappropriate by Rudi, and he's lost his job with MLS (I assume it was over his tweets).

This isn't U-sectors fault. It was Duane's. Let's move on.

rockxlee
05-28-2011, 11:26 AM
Is there a stream up for this match?

cincy
05-28-2011, 11:26 AM
What channel is he game on ?

I can't find it

Huyton
05-28-2011, 11:28 AM
GOL TV...but I can't find a stream.

The firewall here at work probably wouldn't let it through anyway.

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 11:28 AM
http://www.justin.tv/cholillo_830

Live Stream.

It's also on GolTV and Match Day Live (great buy by the way if you like watching a lot of MLS)

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 11:29 AM
Hopefully this stream starts up http://www.soccertvlive.net/watch/66585/1/watch-toronto-fc-vs-philadelphia-union.html stupid Goal TV, Having the TFC game on the same channel as the CL final would have been a great promotion for the team.

A.J
05-28-2011, 11:30 AM
NVM, TFCRegina already posted it

CSO_BBTB
05-28-2011, 11:34 AM
LittleOzzy's stream is working. No Carlos Ruiz according to the Philadelphia feed.

Huyton
05-28-2011, 11:36 AM
Got audio feed from Fan590.com working.

LesH
05-28-2011, 11:39 AM
WOW, I feel Gordon is out forever...

rockxlee
05-28-2011, 11:40 AM
http://www.justin.tv/cholillo_830

Live Stream.

It's also on GolTV and Match Day Live (great buy by the way if you like watching a lot of MLS)

Thanks alot man.

Huyton
05-28-2011, 11:42 AM
Anthem sounds good!

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:42 AM
Wow -- JustinTV's not cutting out every 20 secs on me. That's nice to see :)

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 11:44 AM
Cann dropped for Harden??????

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 11:44 AM
Wow we should be singing the Bimbo Bear song!

SZMULKI
05-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Gargan????? Really???

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Great first ball.

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Cann dropped for Harden??????

9 games this month -- we have to have squad rotation.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 11:48 AM
Game over.... pathetic.

A.J
05-28-2011, 11:48 AM
You've got to be fucking kidding me...

SZMULKI
05-28-2011, 11:48 AM
wow!!!!

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 11:48 AM
9 games this month -- we have to have squad rotation.

hope this is why he was dropped. Harden is simply not good enough.

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:49 AM
So. Well.

At least it wasn't as early as some of the other goals we've given up this season.

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 11:49 AM
...... jinxed it....

fuck 1 - 0

Couchy81
05-28-2011, 11:50 AM
Dan Gargan again eh. Every other game it seems. Put in Nana.

ExiledRed
05-28-2011, 11:50 AM
They go right through us and straight for the jugular every time.

Maybe they should put up more videos about how our system is supposed to work for the other coaches to analyse and plan against.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 11:51 AM
Gargan and Harden at the back FFS !!
Gargan f****ed up like a schoolboy.
Harden's turn next.

profit89
05-28-2011, 11:51 AM
gargan and harden on the left. oh boy

profit89
05-28-2011, 11:52 AM
side with gargan and harden. i would attack that side all day if i were philly

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:53 AM
They look tired already.

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:54 AM
Twellman doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

Blowing Bubbles
05-28-2011, 11:56 AM
crown their asses

A.J
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
I can't watch this game

James17930
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Bye guys. I can't watch anymore.

Couchy81
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
And there's Hardens turn

Island Man
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Game over.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Hahaha this is just so pathetic. We might as well walk off the field right now and start thinking about the next game.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Gargan and Harden at the back FFS !!
Gargan f****ed up like a schoolboy.
Harden's turn next.

There you go. A Harden give away.
F**k we're crap.

jloome
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Think they could close him a little slower? Fucking pathetic. Harden and Williams over Cann and Attakora?

Pretty offensive ball movement is useless with no one who can finish and useless with no defence.

tfcleeds
05-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Unbelievable.

ExiledRed
05-28-2011, 11:58 AM
oh my

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 11:58 AM
... this is starting to feel like the DC game.....

2-0

Flipityflu
05-28-2011, 11:58 AM
we are so pathetic

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 11:58 AM
Bwahahaha.

I'd say this is worse than D.C. The team is clueless, top to bottom.

Support Local Shitty Football! Like, why on earth would you want to watch the Champions League final, when you have THIS!!!

Krasno.pL.
05-28-2011, 11:59 AM
:facepalm:

jloome
05-28-2011, 11:59 AM
Our central defenders are fucking idiots. Again, they dont' close a ball at the top of the box. If DeGuzman doesn't step in there, it's 3-0.

profit89
05-28-2011, 11:59 AM
seems like frei doesn't care anymore.. he's fed up as well

TFCRegina
05-28-2011, 12:00 PM
Think they could close him a little slower? Fucking pathetic. Harden and Williams over Cann and Attakora?

Pretty offensive ball movement is useless with no one who can finish and useless with no defence.

After this game, I don't think anyone can justify Harden getting the start over Attakora. At all.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:00 PM
Supporters should just go home. Send a message.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:00 PM
Eckersley having to mug someone to cover for Williams, who is about to be raped by Justin Mapp.

LesH
05-28-2011, 12:01 PM
I don't care if you ban me from the forum, but I say this:

Real, knowledgeable supporters would boooo down this fucking team off the field.
Everything has a limit.

And yes, I have European football and European football supporter mentality, because I'm European living in the US since 2002.

profit89
05-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Think they could close him a little slower? Fucking pathetic. Harden and Williams over Cann and Attakora?

Pretty offensive ball movement is useless with no one who can finish and useless with no defence.

dicoy has been a rock . its harden and gargan

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Ah, TFC's playing their favorite formation, the 2-0-0.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:02 PM
I don't care if you ban me from the forum, but I say this:

Real, knowledgeable supporters would boooo down this fucking team off the field.
Everything has a limit.

And yes, I have European football and European football supporter mentality, because I'm European living in the US since 2002.

I came here from Europe in 1992 and I've had that mentality as well. But TFC supporters won't leave/stop cheering. Guys like CBlake and others on here think that supporting a team means singing and chanting no matter what and that it's all about "having a fun gameday experience."

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:04 PM
dicoy has been a rock . its harden and gargan

Dicoy has been good in two games and complete shit in two other games. Rock my butt.

And he didn't close on that goal from the top, either.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:05 PM
I came here from Europe in 1992 and I've had that mentality as well. But TFC supporters won't leave/stop cheering. Guys like CBlake and others on here think that supporting a team means singing and chanting no matter what and that it's all about "having a fun gameday experience."

And doing that means MLSE has nothing to worry about. Send a message, go home.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:06 PM
Anyone else think Danleigh Borman's not coming back? (Although, given that he's as lousy a defender as Gargan, it's not like it matters.)

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:07 PM
And doing that means MLSE has nothing to worry about. Send a message, go home.

Yep - to me, support means being passionate about the success and long-term improvement of the club and what that means for the city. Sitting there and singing and waving flags when the squad is shitting the bed is not support. It's boosterism. And it doesn't help.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:07 PM
Fucking Harden and Gargan again. Can't even get the ball out of the back.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:08 PM
Eckersley played in he 4th level in England this year and he stads out as the best player we have by a mile.
Shows the standard of the rest.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:08 PM
Williams is average, Borman, Attakora and Cann should al be on the pitch.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:08 PM
Twice Mondragon has gifted us bad kicks and we've simply missed the ball.

ExiledRed
05-28-2011, 12:10 PM
Oh man these american commentators are ripping the team to bits, and you know what? theyre not even being ignorant.

Inklink
05-28-2011, 12:11 PM
Anyone else need their first goals? Get to BMO.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:12 PM
Eckersley played in he 4th level in England this year and he stads out as the best player we have by a mile.
Shows the standard of the rest.

On loan from Burnley last year in the Championship and the year before was Man Utd's reserve player of the year (keeping in mind Man Utd's reserve team is better by a fair margin than any MLS team.)

So that's not really indicative of anything except he wasn't first choice. English teams move at least four or five players for experience every year. He's only 22 and he'll end up starting for Burnley eventually if he goes back.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:12 PM
Yep - to me, support means being passionate about the success and long-term improvement of the club and what that means for the city. Sitting there and singing and waving flags when the squad is shitting the bed is not support. It's boosterism. And it doesn't help.
Bingo. It's the only way the money grabbers will change things.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:14 PM
On loan from Burnley last year in the Championship and the year before was Man Utd's reserve player of the year (keeping in mind Man Utd's reserve team is better by a fair margin than any MLS team.)

So that's not really indicative of anything except he wasn't first choice. English teams move at least four or five players for experience every year. He's only 22 and he'll end up starting for Burnley eventually if he goes back.

If he was good enough he'd be starting for Burnley, or a least in the squad.
I rate him but there's loads like him in England.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:14 PM
You know I'm kinda happy now that this game is only available on GolTV. I wouldn't want new soccer fans to see this team, they can support Vancouver, at least they play with some emotion.

LesH
05-28-2011, 12:17 PM
I came here from Europe in 1992 and I've had that mentality as well. But TFC supporters won't leave/stop cheering. Guys like CBlake and others on here think that supporting a team means singing and chanting no matter what and that it's all about "having a fun gameday experience."

And you see, this is the fundamental difference between the typical European and North American supporter.

The typical European supporter is in the stadium about 15 mins before the game start, and carefully watches the teams at warm-up.
He does not go out of the game time to piss, or get a fucking beer or something to eat. Just before the game, after and in break.
He never misses a second of action!

He loves his team, but knows when to cheer, when to keep silent or when to booo! Even own team, if it's the case.

I grew up as a kid on first division Romanian football, which at the time was well over actual MLS (even now it is), and in my home town we had a pretty solid team. Got even in the UEFA cup 3 times...

I went to all home games, even friendly ones.
So I'm not speaking out of my ass!

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:18 PM
I think it needs to be said, Maicon Santos is not a starting striker in this league. His movement isn't very good and his first touch is pretty awful. He's got a decent shot but that's about it.

We're really missing Gordon and his past record indicates he's not a starting striker in this league, either.

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 12:20 PM
Soolsma is horrible at crossing the ball man... he had so much time too

LesH
05-28-2011, 12:20 PM
Yep - to me, support means being passionate about the success and long-term improvement of the club and what that means for the city. Sitting there and singing and waving flags when the squad is shitting the bed is not support. It's boosterism. And it doesn't help.

Exactly!

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:20 PM
Well, John Carew's available. Surely gotta be better up top than what we've got now. Unless Winter decides he should sit behind Gordon and Santos.

Lol, Eckersley has a cannon.

Inklink
05-28-2011, 12:21 PM
Dammit! Ecks just missed.

At least Tchiani's pass went farther than 3 metres.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:21 PM
"Who are ya! Who are ya! Who are ya!"

He's the guy whose team is beating you 2-0 at home after 30 minutes.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:21 PM
Good effort Eckersley.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:22 PM
Well, John Carew's available. Surely gotta be better up top than what we've got now. Unless Winter decides he should sit behind Gordon and Santos.

Lol, Eckersley has a cannon.

Carew would be bloody brilliant, but won't be coming.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:22 PM
What the F**k is this commentator drinking ?

Chubbs
05-28-2011, 12:23 PM
Eckersley looks to have the best looking shot out of anyone on our starting 11, anyone else see a problem with that?

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:23 PM
Unbelievable.

TFC USA
05-28-2011, 12:23 PM
The youngsters are the only promising things about this club.

And I bet that enjoyment will be fucked up, too.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:25 PM
Whoa baby. The reffing in this league never ceases to amaze. What did this guy just call? He has no clue!

Inklink
05-28-2011, 12:25 PM
What the hell was that on the penalty appeal?

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:25 PM
what was that call ?!?!

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:26 PM
Eckersley is the only TFC player worth watching.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:26 PM
Caliente Maicon... so close. That was a fucking rocket.

A.J
05-28-2011, 12:27 PM
Santos looks, sees 5 Philadelphia players, but no TFC players.
Says "fuck it!" and takes a 40yd shot.

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:29 PM
I wonder how miracle whip feels about the 'taste the victory' campaign now...

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:30 PM
That's embarassing. Plata takes a stupid quick free kick, gives the ball away and we're undressed.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:30 PM
TFC are making a 2nd year team look like Barcelona.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Oh... em.. gee... What a beautiful goal.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Way too easy. Supporters need to go home at half time.

Inklink
05-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Unreal.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
Oh ffs, just when we were getting back into it.

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
This is depressing.

Blowing Bubbles
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
So that's not really indicative of anything except he wasn't first choice. English teams move at least four or five players for experience every year. He's only 22 and he'll end up starting for Burnley eventually if he goes back.

that'd be news to most Burnley fans. 99% of the feedback on him has been negative.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
Oh ffs, just when we were getting back into it.

What game are you watching?

A.J
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
Now I'm just watching this match for comedic value

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
Why are they still singing? Oh my....

tfcleeds
05-28-2011, 12:31 PM
Just let them walk it in, what's the difference. I'm out.

LesH
05-28-2011, 12:32 PM
Supporters should walk out.
No joke!

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:32 PM
Oh ffs, just when we were getting back into it.

Yeah, I'm not buying that anymore. Movement means fuck all if you can't even get a shot on net.

Flipityflu
05-28-2011, 12:32 PM
boo the shit out of them

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 12:32 PM
Wow, this team is nothing short of pathetic. Being offside on your own corner kick a is Gr. 4 girls soccer caliber mistake.

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:32 PM
offiside on a corner. There is almost literally nothing else that could go wrong.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:33 PM
What game are you watching?
Well that was out best period, although it still wasn't great.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:34 PM
Soolsma, one of the few players we have who doesn't embarass us, sums it up "players walking....it's very bad."

Couchy81
05-28-2011, 12:34 PM
I don't understand how you can sing after this performance.. It's pretty embarassing for the team, let alone the supporter section itself. Better to sit silent until a goal is scored.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:35 PM
After his performance in this game, any sensible manager would release Ty Harden outright. Gargan, too.

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:35 PM
I'm really not a sky-is-falling kind of supporter, but I've seen so little out of this team this season that even hope for the future is dwindling.

If none of your players are good enough to play the 4-3-3, what's the point of playing it???

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:35 PM
Why are they still singing? Oh my....

It is so immature. Grow some balls and boo them.

LesH
05-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Pathetic, this year's team has by far the worst results compared to other "glorious" year's TFC teams, lol...

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:36 PM
I feel bad for all the people who have wasted their money on tickets this season.

A.J
05-28-2011, 12:37 PM
Let's hope for a sudden thunderstorm so they can call this game off too!

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:37 PM
I'm starting to think perhaps Winter uses players he feels are always motivated, regardless of their talent, because he can't motivate players, and it covers up a fault of his own as a manager.

CSO_BBTB
05-28-2011, 12:37 PM
Biggest problem is in centre mid. Getting totally overwhelmed there due to the two different formations that are being used and the three players from a TFC standpoint having a collective off day. Winter has to make a major adjustment and get things going again with a view to the next game even if this one is totally away.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:37 PM
Whether walking or fired I can't see Winter being here much longer.

tfcleeds
05-28-2011, 12:38 PM
Bring in some of the academy defenders. I mean, how bad could they really be? Surely not as bad as what we currently have.

Blowing Bubbles
05-28-2011, 12:38 PM
between Philly's 2nd year success and Portland starting their season 5-0-0 at home I'm fucking depressed man. nevermind Seattle hitting the ground running from day 1.

TFC is such a joke org.

FreekAce
05-28-2011, 12:38 PM
that was a fucking disgrace. no heart, no hunger, why should we give a fuck when clearly that team doesnt.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:39 PM
Biggest problem is in centre mid. Getting totally overwhelmed there due to the two different formations that are being used and the three players from a TFC standpoint having a collective off day. Winter has to make a major adjustment and get things going again with a view to the next game even if this one is totally away.
Agreed.....where the f**k is JDG when we need him ?
Useless.

Flipityflu
05-28-2011, 12:39 PM
how long can this can on? seriously, the team doesn't even look interested.

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 12:39 PM
how the heck does Winter think that Harden is better than Attakora??? I'd rather put friggin Henry up there than Harden

Suit Serioux up.. he's right there.. he'd do a better job than Harden....

TFC1154ever
05-28-2011, 12:40 PM
All supporters should turn their back to the pitch and not make a fucken sound. What a joke. Thank god i couldn't go today.

Beach_Red
05-28-2011, 12:40 PM
I'm starting to think perhaps Winter uses players he feels are always motivated, regardless of their talent, because he can't motivate players, and it covers up a fault of his own as a manager.

He's working with what he has. You know what this team has never had? Someone with experience signing players.

Agents must look at TFC and laugh and laugh and laugh....

Soccerpro
05-28-2011, 12:43 PM
It's hard to have faith in Winter when he starts Harden and Gargan in the back. It seems like he doesn't know what he's doing.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:43 PM
He's working with what he has. You know what this team has never had? Someone with experience signing players.

Agents must look at TFC and laugh and laugh and laugh....

We have Paul Marriner here now man, he signed half of New England's squad over the last decade.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:43 PM
Where is Don Henry? Is he fit?

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:44 PM
All supporters should turn their back to the pitch and not make a fucken sound. What a joke. Thank god i couldn't go today.

They shouldn't even stay. Go find a nice bar and watch the CL final. Don't stay and give MLSE even more money.

FreekAce
05-28-2011, 12:45 PM
All supporters should turn their back to the pitch and not make a fucken sound. What a joke. Thank god i couldn't go today.

same here. if i'd been there i'd given myself an aneurysm already.

fuck, at least i get to go to the academy tonight, those kids give a damn and the games are more fun then i've had at bmo so far this season.

FreekAce
05-28-2011, 12:46 PM
Where is Don Henry? Is he fit?

played with the academy last week against windsor so he's fit.

Beach_Red
05-28-2011, 12:46 PM
We have Paul Marriner here now man, he signed half of New England's squad over the last decade.

Is NE really the model to follow? for the last half decade they've fallen further and further behind the top teams. Maybe Mariner did a great job piecing togeher a cheap squad for cheap ownership (and he did have Nicol and a GM so there were three guys with MLS experience) but people keep telling me MLSE isn't cheap.

Or were you being sarcastic? (I'm sorry, with discussions about TFC I can't even tell anymore when people are serious or not).

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:46 PM
It's hard to have faith in Winter when he starts Harden and Gargan in the back. It seems like he doesn't know what he's doing.

I fear he sees all of the players as equally low-calibre, and therefore is slotting in the players he feels are most motivated. Attakora probably got singled out because of his timid personality, which is how a thoughtless type-a ex-jock would think.

This would explain Dan Gargan starting at left back when he's right-footed, while Yourrasowsky, a natural left-back, plays midfield in the role DeGuzman should be playing -- despite Stevanovic or Martina, who could play the top of the diamond or the left wing, sitting on the bench.

Might be a consequence of having played at such a high-level that he can't read talent at this level, like Gullit and Maradona before him. Technically, he and De Klerk are obviously improving the basics, like passing and switching position. But if he uses the wrong lineup, it'll mean fuck all.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:47 PM
played with the academy last week against windsor so he's fit.
Cheers, should in the bloody squad rather than Harden.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:48 PM
Is NE really the model to follow? for the last half decade they've fallen further and further behind the top teams. Maybe Mariner did a great job piecing togeher a cheap squad for cheap ownership (and he did have Nicol and a GM so there were three guys with MLS experience) but people keep telling me MLSE isn't cheap.

Or were you being sarcastic? (I'm sorry, with discussions about TFC I can't even tell anymore when people are serious or not).


Good point. I just tend to think he was value for years as the top coaching contender. Star seems to have fallen a bit, so you might be right. He pretty much flamed out at Plymouth Argyle.

Then again, he got us Eckersley.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:48 PM
It's hard to have faith in Winter when he starts Harden and Gargan in the back. It seems like he doesn't know what he's doing.

And his signings have been crap.
Those 2 clowns should never be picked again

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:49 PM
So Borman and Martina on. Who's gone off? Gargan and....?

Dkolish3
05-28-2011, 12:49 PM
Gargan off for Borman

I think De Guz off for Martina

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:51 PM
Great play, and we get killed by a former world-class keeper. THat's harsh at this point.

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:51 PM
What a save.

CSO_BBTB
05-28-2011, 12:52 PM
Not surprised JDG is off he was having a nightmare but why even play Gargan on the left if Borman was ready to play?

Davenport
05-28-2011, 12:52 PM
So Borman and Martina on. Who's gone off? Gargan and....?
JDG.....he's done well, really earning his money.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:53 PM
Well that should of been 4.

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:53 PM
Better.

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 12:54 PM
We don't deserve Frei.....

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:54 PM
better than nothing...

Island Man
05-28-2011, 12:54 PM
Santos! Very cool finish.

Strans
05-28-2011, 12:54 PM
We don't deserve Frei.....
+1!!

A.J
05-28-2011, 12:57 PM
Feck, I missed the goal

jloome
05-28-2011, 12:58 PM
Oh hey, fucking team showed up for the second half. Maybe they wanted to play in front of fewer people.

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 12:59 PM
Why didn't we play like this at all in the first half? Always look great when the game is already over.

A.J
05-28-2011, 01:00 PM
YES! Second half looks much better.

Whatever Winter said was the right thing to say

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 01:00 PM
YES! Second half looks much better.

Whatever Winter said was the right thing to say

Hopefully he said he is cutting them all unless they start playing with some heart.

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:02 PM
That's two.

A.J
05-28-2011, 01:03 PM
Santosssssss

Strans
05-28-2011, 01:03 PM
WTF!?!?!?

Who is this squad???

Island Man
05-28-2011, 01:03 PM
Yessss Santos! Come on!

Flipityflu
05-28-2011, 01:03 PM
well, that must have been some nice shouting by Mr Winter

A.J
05-28-2011, 01:03 PM
pass was amazing, sliced right through them

FreekAce
05-28-2011, 01:03 PM
look what team woke the fuck up!

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:04 PM
Now that they don't feel hated anymore, are they going to go back to sleep?

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 01:04 PM
hmm... wtf?

3 - 2

Couchy81
05-28-2011, 01:04 PM
Game on boys

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:05 PM
Again, our fucking defender doesn't close. Again. Fucking disgraceful. Fucking Harden AGAIN.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 01:05 PM
Hahahaha. 4-2. Eat it.

Couchy81
05-28-2011, 01:05 PM
Harden you piece of SHIT

A.J
05-28-2011, 01:05 PM
Ok, now I'm back down to earth

Island Man
05-28-2011, 01:05 PM
Oh FFS. Frei is at fault :(

Strans
05-28-2011, 01:06 PM
Harden is embarrassing himself.

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:06 PM
Hahahaha. 4-2. Eat it.

Whose fucking side are you on, exactly?

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 01:06 PM
..back on script?

4 - 2....

what is this a hockey game?

LittleOzzy
05-28-2011, 01:06 PM
That's it, get the crowd excited, sell a few more beers and then shit the bed. Game was over in the first 3 minutes.

Flipityflu
05-28-2011, 01:07 PM
its a slobberknocker

profit89
05-28-2011, 01:07 PM
borman stinks

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:07 PM
Oh FFS. Frei is at fault :(

How? The defender gave his player 15 fucking yards to shoot, ffs

FreekAce
05-28-2011, 01:08 PM
Whose fucking side are you on, exactly?

it justifies him in his constant ragging....

Island Man
05-28-2011, 01:08 PM
How? The defender gave his player 15 fucking yards to shoot, ffs
I think my stream went down, looked like Frei gave it away with a bad kick.

JavierMartini
05-28-2011, 01:09 PM
Hahahaha. 4-2. Eat it.

Gtfo

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:09 PM
I think my stream went down, looked like Frei gave it away with a bad kick.

He did, but we had eight players behind the ball, so it shouldn't have been an issue. Positionally, he was fine.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 01:10 PM
Forgot Philly are one of the lowest scoring teams in the MLS ffs.

A.J
05-28-2011, 01:10 PM
Frei...? that would have been embarassing

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:11 PM
Again. Again Harden fails to close and it's almost another goal.

Island Man
05-28-2011, 01:15 PM
What a fucking joke.

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:15 PM
And....it's Harden beaten again, marking Mwanga.

MG42
05-28-2011, 01:15 PM
After his performance in this game, any sensible manager would release Ty Harden outright. Gargan, too.

I agree, but will it happen? I doubt it.

ExiledRed
05-28-2011, 01:16 PM
Well, at least were improving

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:16 PM
Christ, finally.

Davenport
05-28-2011, 01:16 PM
Again. Again Harden fails to close and it's almost another goal.
This time it wasn't.
This could end up 6 or 7.

Strans
05-28-2011, 01:16 PM
where have I heard that before...

Dkolish3
05-28-2011, 01:17 PM
Harden off for Stevanovic

Alixir
05-28-2011, 01:17 PM
What a fucking joke.thats all that needs to be said...wake me up when our FO cares(looks like I may be in a coma until we move south)

ExiledRed
05-28-2011, 01:17 PM
its a more entertaining loss. the game isnt boring at all.

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:18 PM
Well, at least were improving

Nah, I'm convinced now man, he's not ready to manage at this level. He obviously can't read his personnel and he's compensating for an inability to motivate by using the pluggers over the skill (what little we have).

Dude's gotta change direction or he's gotta go.

MFG1
05-28-2011, 01:18 PM
speechless.....

flamehawk
05-28-2011, 01:18 PM
.....way too late to be doing this

Harden off for Stevanovic

TFC USA
05-28-2011, 01:19 PM
Are we going to double their goal total in one game?

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 01:19 PM
Why are people still sitting there?

Couchy81
05-28-2011, 01:19 PM
Maybe Winter will stop playing Gargan and Harden now... but probably not.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 01:20 PM
Well, at least were improving

+1. It's a rebuilding year. We just need to be patient. It's getting better, don't you see?

Strans
05-28-2011, 01:22 PM
+1. It's a rebuilding year. We just need to be patient. It's getting better, don't you see?

Is it though? If a basketball player comes in in garbage time and gets a double double, that doesn't make him a starter.

JavierMartini
05-28-2011, 01:23 PM
Lol 5

Beach_Red
05-28-2011, 01:23 PM
+1. It's a rebuilding year. We just need to be patient. It's getting better, don't you see?

Look, if it gets really bad they'll bring in a big name like Jurgen Klinsmann to fix it, don't worry.

jloome
05-28-2011, 01:24 PM
Gotta love it when the goal tv guy (the radio dude, can't remember his name) recognizes the impending offside at least two seconds before the players on the field.

FreekAce
05-28-2011, 01:24 PM
Why are people still sitting there?

cuz some people are actual supporters.

DangerRed
05-28-2011, 01:25 PM
Look, if it gets really bad they'll bring in a big name like Jurgen Klinsmann to fix it, don't worry.

Wait, wait, wait? Are you being sarcastic about our great team? Careful, or jloome will ask you whose side you're on! Because it's impossible to be critical when you're Supporting Local Football!

Inklink
05-28-2011, 01:25 PM
What kind of soccer team lets in 5 goals? This defence is BRUTAL. And so are the decisions to leave Cann and Nana on the bench.

Strans
05-28-2011, 01:26 PM
our set pieces are atrocious.

denime
05-28-2011, 01:26 PM
guys game thread is here:

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=28216