Match Thread TFC vs Van NCC Final

[Flipityflu]

first, notcie the crowd MLSE....

come on you Reds

[Krasno.pL.]

Im Pissed if I'm Stefan Frei

[Wingback6]

Glad to see Stevanovich as AM, seems born for the position.

[C.Barrett19]

links?

[Krasno.pL.]

http://www.canadasoccer.com/championship/nccvideo.asp?lang=en

[__wowza]

video feed isnt working, im only getting audio. anything else? ive looked but im not having luck.

[C.Barrett19]

is everyones game time at 12mins?

[pyppurs]

12:50

[C.Barrett19]

lol thx thought i was delayed :)

[Krasno.pL.]

rain = scatter lol

[Soccerpro]

Giveaway by Cann=goal

[C.Barrett19]

:mad::hulk:woooooooow

[Davenport]

Nice Cann !

[LucaGol]

Haven't watched TFC in a while ... glad to see nothing has change.

- crap start
- no possession
- giveaways all over the place
- RPB giving it their all

[King Jeff]

Wow, that is an empty stadium. Maybe the lowest crowd I've ever seen.

[s2cazz]

Wow, that is an empty stadium. Maybe the lowest crowd I've ever seen.

Yeah. Sucks doesn't it. The good thing we had is gone

[Waggy]

At work, listening to the Fan broadcast. 2 questions for anyone watching, whats the crowd looking like and how's the flow of the game?

Edit: Well looks like the crowd questions been answered. Good. Now maybe MLSE will get off their high fucking horse and realize they need to ACTIVELY grow the game/team, not sit and count money. Maybe market a bit, maybe drop some ticket prices. Maybe get a decent club

[King Jeff]

^I'm trying to guess what percentage of the seats in the east stand are filled. 10% tops, maybe?

Edit: there are a bunch of people hiding under the north stand by the looks of it.

[Davenport]

If you are not already asleep these commentators will finish the job..

[Kilgore Trout]

The east stands only got that empty after the heavy rain started. They're refilling now. But yeah, for a while the east stands were nearly empty.
edit: aaaand the rain starts pelting again

[Waggy]

Jesus. That's abysmal. I guess the snooze alarms buzzing in Anselmi's ear pretty loud right now.

[LucaGol]

Mikhail Yourassowsky is my favourite player. That is all.

[Waggy]

How's the game though? Are we connecting passes/getting pressure? From the radio feed it seems like we're doing well possession wise just not really getting the ball in dangerous areas

[Kilgore Trout]

How's the game though? Are we connecting passes/getting pressure? From the radio feed it seems like we're doing well possession wise just not really getting the ball in dangerous areas
we've been pressuring for the past 15 mins or so, just not getting the right touches in the penalty area

[LucaGol]

How's the game though? Are we connecting passes/getting pressure? From the radio feed it seems like we're doing well possession wise just not really getting the ball in dangerous areas

Sloppy. In every aspect.

[Davenport]

Another Cann give away then he gets turned inside out all in 5 seconds !!

[LucaGol]

How bad a passer is Tony Tchani. My goodness.

[Waggy]

Thanks, appreciate it. And still early and only a goal down. As long as we don't give up another still like our chances

[Wingback6]

Right now Santos is showing why he shouldn't be Captain... invisible... which is fine when you're just a player... but deadly to the team when you're Captain. Cann looks lost... or bagged.. or both.

[Davenport]

Santos shoots 10 yards wide from 12 yards out.

[Davenport]

Right now Santos is showing why he shouldn't be Captain... invisible... which is fine when you're just a player... but deadly to the team when you're Captain. Cann looks lost... or bagged.. or both.
Eckersley should be captain.
Cann should be dropped.

[ArmenJBX]

How pathetic can this side be?
Adrian Cann is just the stupidest fucking defender we have.

Passing back to the goalkeeper at EVERY possible opportunity (sign of low footy IQ), cannot mark Hassli worth shit, Adrian Cann is a glaring whole (or "swiss cheese" as sportsnet put it) in our defence. Not that Attakora is any better lately to be honest.

We're pissing away the NCC harder than the rain pissing on our players.

[Wingback6]

See Hassli and others coming up to Demerit.. three players... looking to him... to address issues they have with the game... Santos... walks off alone.. take the armband away from that man, his pouting is POISON and it was last year too!!!

[Dub Narcotic]

TFC just have so many positions that need to be upgraded. Santos is a depth striker, not a serious starter. Yourasskowsky is the same on the wing, and Cann does not have the ball skills needed for this level or this system. Stepanovic is completely anonymous as well. Look how many dangerous players Vancouver have. I would take Salinas over anybody TFC have on the wing and they have guys like Tiebert and Khaflan on the bench who can take people on.

Having groused, there's no way TFC is out of this on this surface and they are getting forward well. If I was Vancouver I would take Dunfield off at half, he is a red card waiting to happen.

[Davenport]

How pathetic can this side be?
Adrian Cann is just the stupidest fucking defender we have.

Passing back to the goalkeeper at EVERY possible opportunity (sign of low footy IQ), cannot mark Hassli worth shit, Adrian Cann is a glaring whole (or "swiss cheese" as sportsnet put it) in our defence. Not that Attakora is any better lately to be honest.

We're pissing away the NCC harder than the rain pissing on our players.
There are at least 5 Vancouver players who would immediately stregthen TFC. And they are an expansion team.

Cann is very funny to watch.

[Wingback6]

How pathetic can this side be?
Adrian Cann is just the stupidest fucking defender we have.

Passing back to the goalkeeper at EVERY possible opportunity (sign of low footy IQ), cannot mark Hassli worth shit, Adrian Cann is a glaring whole (or "swiss cheese" as sportsnet put it) in our defence. Not that Attakora is any better lately to be honest.

We're pissing away the NCC harder than the rain pissing on our players.

Cann has started, and finished almost every game since the beginning of the season... don't confuse stupidity, with fatigue. He is playing poorly though, sadly TFC doesn't have many options at LCB, any other options really, other than him. Williams/Harden/Attakora are all RCB's.

[ArmenJBX]

This "backpass to the goalkeeper at every chance" needs to STOP

[Davenport]

See Hassli and others coming up to Demerit.. three players... looking to him... to address issues they have with the game... Santos... walks off alone.. take the armband away from that man, his pouting is POISON and it was last year too!!!
TFC have NO leaders. Otherwise Santos wouldn't have the armband.

[Davenport]

Cann has started, and finished almost every game since the beginning of the season... don't confuse stupidity, with fatigue. He is playing poorly though, sadly TFC doesn't have many options at LCB, any other options really, other than him. Williams/Harden/Attakora are all RCB's.
Fatigue FFS..the season has just started.

[LesH]

I've seen now TFC playing Vancouver in 2 and 1/2 official games.

I do not care what happens in the second half but I need to say this:

As much as we would hate to admit, but Vancouver is clearly a more solid team than TFC.
Van. = "expansion" team, and we, TFC = 4th season veterans in MLS.
Fuck you MLSE!

[ArmenJBX]

It's not fatigue; he's been very "stupid" (for lack of better word) all year so far. Backpassing to the goalkeeper is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.

I also think his mind isn't adjusted to his body. He's proportioned like Crouch in a way, head to small and body too big. His legs just don't do what he obviously attempts to do.

[Wingback6]

Fatigue FFS..the season has just started.

even CB's need a break, few will go more tha 5 games in a row, he has been playing 3 games a week, most teams would rest his position at least one of those games, TFC lacks the depth, so they don't.

[Dreadlocks]

Things don't look all that bad to me. Cann screwed up big time giving the ball away but aside from that I'm pretty optimistic. They just need to raise the tempo a bit and they'll score a couple....watch!

[Davenport]

even CB's need a break, few will go more tha 5 games in a row, he has been playing 3 games a week, most teams would rest his position at least one of those games, TFC lacks the depth, so they don't.
2 games a week. Big deal, he's a professional athlete.

[ArmenJBX]

even CB's need a break, few will go more tha 5 games in a row, he has been playing 3 games a week, most teams would rest his position at least one of those games, TFC lacks the depth, so they don't.

Puyol definitely sits out once after every five games.
John Terry too, for that matter.

Luisao in Benfica is famous for resting too.
Oh, let's not forget another famous CB, Jamison Olave who's played more than 5 in a row and was solid for all of um..

[ilikemusic]

TFC have NO leaders. Otherwise Santos wouldn't have the armband.

Well we did, but he was run out of town for demanding the organization honour their promise.


I've seen now TFC playing Vancouver in 2 and 1/2 official games.

I do not care what happens in the second half but I need to say this:

As much as we would hate to admit, but Vancouver is clearly a more solid team than TFC.
Van. = "expansion" team, and we, TFC = 4th season veterans in MLS.
Fuck you MLSE!

* 5th season.

[Davenport]

It's not fatigue; he's been very "stupid" (for lack of better word) all year so far. Backpassing to the goalkeeper is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.

I also think his mind isn't adjusted to his body. He's proportioned like Crouch in a way, head to small and body too big. His legs just don't do what he obviously attempts to do.
Bingo, and his brain is too small for his head.

[LesH]

Well we did, but he was run out of town for demanding the organization honour their promise.



* 5th season.
lol, my bad.

[Mark TFC]

People need to grow a pair, what a shame it is to see the stadium three-quarters empty. Did you go to the game to watch it, or to hide under a roof?

On another note, way to go Red Patch! Keep up the singing and the jumping, good on ya boys.

Come on you Reds! Let's make this half count.

[ilikemusic]

People need to grow a pair, what a shame it is to see the stadium three-quarters empty. Did you go to the game to watch it, or to hide under a roof?

On another note, way to go Red Patch! Keep up the singing and the jumping, good on ya boys.

Come on you Reds! Let's make this half count.

Youre talking about the guys on the pitch wearing red, right? Because I totally agree with that.

[Oblio2]

its raining like a mother-fucker outside...wow. Glad im in.

[LesH]

Half hour delay because of lightening.

[Wingback6]

Puyol definitely sits out once after every five games.
John Terry too, for that matter.

Luisao in Benfica is famous for resting too.
Oh, let's not forget another famous CB, Jamison Olave who's played more than 5 in a row and was solid for all of um..

Lol.. not sure if you're being sarcastic... but I stand by my assertion... and to be fair, Cann doesn't compare to any of those guys.. ofcourse. I just think dumping on him after a bad half is well, a tad predictable, an reactionary, even if I was doing it a bit myself.

[jloome]

Not to denigrate anyone's righteous passion, but we're actually not playing that badly. We have two players, Stevanovic and Santos, letting down the entire side with their lack of work, particularly the former. He's so far behind the play I'm not sure why he's on the pitch.

I might even be unfair to Santos. We're supposed to have two guys in the box to cause problems, but our central playmaker's head is back in Europe or something.

[C.Barrett19]

Puyol definitely sits out once after every five games.
John Terry too, for that matter.

Luisao in Benfica is famous for resting too.
Oh, let's not forget another famous CB, Jamison Olave who's played more than 5 in a row and was solid for all of um..

How is luisao known for resting if only games he gets off is when hes hurt or cards?

[ilikemusic]

8hIYNwsEX4E

:lol:

I have really grown to love Jay Onrait.

[ryan]

LOL ...although I feel a bit annoyed that the sportscaster is mocking the importance of it.

[Dkolish3]

I personally thought that it was a good half by Toronto, they got into great positions but just missed the final ball. Vancouver got an undeserved fluky goal but that's the way it goes sometimes however I think Toronto showed character in staying strong and continuing to get into good positions. Yourassowsky has all the time in the world on the left, while Soolsma continue to make fullback look foolish. Unfortunately Toronto has no aerial threat as of now, Maicon is just not that kind of player. De Guzman continues to dominate defensively, unfortunate that the goal came off of him. Eckerseley also having a good game.

Considering the lighting if it does not let up will Vancouver get the cup.

[Dreadlocks]

Not to denigrate anyone's righteous passion, but we're actually not playing that badly. We have two players, Stevanovic and Santos, letting down the entire side with their lack of work, particularly the former. He's so far behind the play I'm not sure why he's on the pitch.

I might even be unfair to Santos. We're supposed to have two guys in the box to cause problems, but our central playmaker's head is back in Europe or something.

Stevanovic needs to relax a bit when he's on the ball. As soon as he gets it he goes into warp speed! I think he'll figure it out though eventually.

Santos is NOT a target striker! He plays best when he has a strike partner that he understands. Last year he was at his best imo playing with Mista until he got injured playing against Chivas. That was the TSN turning point of the whole season.

We can win this. I know we can!

[Dub Narcotic]

BTW, I thought that was a penalty when Yourasskowsky got taken down in the box. Guess it evens out the Camilo non-call from the first leg.

[Wingback6]

OMG I do not want to be watching this Hockey game, hope the lighting lets up soon!!

[raj100]

score? still 1 nil?
how long has/is the game being delayed for? will it be played again if the delay is too long?

[LesH]

BTW, I thought that was a penalty when Yourasskowsky got taken down in the box. Guess it evens out the Camilo non-call from the first leg.


+1 .

[ArmenJBX]

How is luisao known for resting if only games he gets off is when hes hurt or cards?

Heheheh :D
I was being sarcastic :D

[raj100]

Just got back home from the game, just too wet, soaked to the bone. Why isn't the game on tv?

the games done? full time? or they just called it?

[Eastend]

Has the game restarted? Score update?

[C.Barrett19]

Heheheh :D
I was being sarcastic :D

oh sry i dont really understand sarcasm in text unless its really clear :p

[C.Barrett19]

game just go off air or rain messed it up?

[Vince Whirlwind]

Jeesus...feed's gone down.

[Wingback6]

WTF!!!!! two minutes of game, then highliights???????

[Vince Whirlwind]

Updates (if any) in the meantime guys!

[Walms]

sooooo any more streams?

[Vince Whirlwind]

back on...nevermind...:-)

[Shep]

streams back

[Dub Narcotic]

I would call Dunfield the most overrated Canadian soccer player but we still have de Guzman on the same pitch.

[C.Barrett19]

fans are still there with thunder i think toronto has the most loyal fans

[Wingback6]

feeds back... yah... pitch looks like sh**t... nooo!!

[Dkolish3]

martina for De Guz

[Dkolish3]

so close, we deserved to tie the game.

[Relja]

game delay again...

[Dkolish3]

game stopped again

[SirBobSaget]

What happens if the game is called?

[Dkolish3]

^^
Vancouver wins

[Wingback6]

Fubar

[Waggy]

I don't think that's how it works. I think if a game is abandonded due to weather it has to be replayed. It's not baseball where a team gets a win after half's been played

[Dub Narcotic]

What is with Winter? I think he thinks he is the next Mourinho and doesn't have to descend to the level of what is expected from a manager in North America. He needs to have better results before that kind of behaviour is going to fly.

[raj100]

^^
Vancouver wins

replay...

[Gazza]

What is with Winter? I think he thinks he is the next Mourinho and doesn't have to descend to the level of what is expected from a manager in North America. He needs to have better results before that kind of behaviour is going to fly.

I'd rather he talk to the team than Louis Jean.

[ArmenJBX]

I think it's a Vancouver win if Aron Winter calls it off.
If the refs do, it's a replay.
If Vancouver calls it off, Toronto FC win.

A couch calling it off, by the way, results in a 3-0 recorded win for the opposition.

[GBV]

What is with Winter? I think he thinks he is the next Mourinho and doesn't have to descend to the level of what is expected from a manager in North America. He needs to have better results before that kind of behaviour is going to fly.

dude's a dink.

[London Red]

Winter needs to get the team out there to practice passing and first touches during this break. Especially Tchani.

[Dkolish3]

^^
Vancouver wins

I'm wrong, sorry

[ilikemusic]

Wow. So Arron Winter is so big that he can just essentially tell the reporter to fuck off?

Whatever the circumstances turn out to be, Winter comes across looking like a flat out punk in that exchange.

[ginkster88]

Teitur's head might explode if the refs call this.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Looks like rpb and nee have joiined forces in the north stand

[stugautz]

Hypothetical question: A player gets red carded however game is cancelled due to weather. Is he eligible for the replay?

[dupont]

Wow. So Arron Winter is so big that he can just essentially tell the reporter to fuck off?

Whatever the circumstances turn out to be, Winter comes across looking like a flat out punk in that exchange.

What did he do? I missed it.

[Juanito]

For once, I feel bad for the refs and the CSA. If they call it off, Vancouver will bitch. If they don't, Toronto will bitch. It's a LOSE-LOSE now.

[mclaren]

If the game is cancelled, will replay at 10 am tomorrow morning.

[TFCin110]

Wow. So Arron Winter is so big that he can just essentially tell the reporter to fuck off?

Whatever the circumstances turn out to be, Winter comes across looking like a flat out punk in that exchange.

Because its raining hard enough to flood our pitch and he didn't want to be interviewed in a monsoon? I think you are being a little too critical here friend.

[TorontoGooner]

Toronto FC have the best fans in the League. There's a solid 1000 still there despite the rapture turning up 4 days late.

More in BMO Field right now than at Empire Field for the first leg

[ArmenJBX]

Hypothetical question: A player gets red carded however game is cancelled due to weather. Is he eligible for the replay?

Good question LOL

We're assuming that, for example, Dicoy Williams was red carded and the game was replayed. Perhaps Williams will be suspended but 11 players are still allowed.

Now, does the score reset to 0-0?

[JuliquE]

What did he do? I missed it.
With him concerned for his players, I think he may have felt it hypocritical to be out and giving a lovely little interview.. so, he walked off to remain consistent.

Bit harsh to be slinging names at him for that, I think.

[SirBobSaget]

kinda glad I didnt hang around for this now. I left when the water soaked through my shoes. I've already suffered through enough rain this season.

[Juanito]

Decisions, decisions!

[GBV]

Wow. So Arron Winter is so big that he can just essentially tell the reporter to fuck off?

Whatever the circumstances turn out to be, Winter comes across looking like a flat out punk in that exchange.

Embarrassing, really.

[stugautz]

For once, I feel bad for the refs and the CSA. If they call it off, Vancouver will bitch. If they don't, Toronto will bitch. It's a LOSE-LOSE now.

They should have a contingency plan for things like this. If they don't...well it's their own fault.

[Couchy81]

Just got home, buy a roof MLSE you cheap fucks

[Juanito]

I was supposed to go to this match, I chickened out when I saw it was going to rain. I'm glad I'm such a pussy!

[mclaren]

Maybe they'll toss a coin?

[ginkster88]

They should have a contingency plan for things like this. If they don't...well it's their own fault.

For torrential rain and thunderstorms? They should call the game and replay the remaining time tomorrow.

[thisisinternetclash]

Did anybody catch what exactly Winter said to the reporter as he turned his back on him and walked away?

[Juanito]

They should have a contingency plan for things like this. If they don't...well it's their own fault.

CSA yes, Refs no. Well, this would be TFC's benefit.

[A Stick]

3 more minutes of play and that game would have been legal. That first half was terrible. The team has no heart, no real direction (i.e. just at the middle midfield players) and is toothless in attack. Vancouver is a better team. :picard:

[JuliquE]

Did anybody catch what exactly Winter said to the reporter as he turned his back on him and walked away?

"I think for both." ~Winter (asked if he called it off)

[ilikemusic]

With him concerned for his players, I think he may have felt it hypocritical to be out and giving a lovely little interview.. so, he walked off to remain consistent.

Bit harsh to be slinging names at him for that, I think.

You talk as if he waited for all of his players to be safe and indoors (and presumably tucked into bed with some warm milk) before he ran away. He went in long before the rest of the players did. The players on the pitch still didnt even know what was going on when they saw their manager running into the tunnel.


Because its raining hard enough to flood our pitch and he didn't want to be interviewed in a monsoon? I think you are being a little too critical here friend.

If he isnt a punk then he is a pussy because he ran off while the players, refs, media, support staff and his counterpart waited around to try and figure out what the fuck was going on.

He is trying to get this game replayed and he thought that by being a sneaky little weasel and running away from the pitch, and the media, he has a chance to get away with it.

[TFCin110]

3 more minutes of play and that game would have been legal. That first half was terrible. The team has no heart, no real direction (i.e. just at the middle midfield players) and is toothless in attack. Vancouver is a better team. :picard:
Give it time friend. It took Ferguson 6 years to win his first trophy at Manchester United. I think he's work out since ;)

[sully]

Did anybody catch what exactly Winter said to the reporter as he turned his back on him and walked away?

he said "we'll see"

[DOMIN8R]

For what it's worth...I live next to BMO and there is big lightning in the "hood" right now.

[jabbronies]

RT @torontofc: Delay latest: A final decision will be made at 10:45 p.m. to whether or not to continue tonight .. #TFC #TorontoFC #MLS #NCC

[Bars92]

i only saw the second half, but from the looks of it that game was totally unplayable. It was farcical that they had the players out there as long as they did.

[Couchy81]

If he isnt a punk then he is a pussy because he ran off while the players, refs, media, support staff and his counterpart waited around to try and figure out what the fuck was going on.

He is trying to get this game replayed and he thought that by being a sneaky little weasel and running away from the pitch, and the media, he has a chance to get away with it.

LOL

stfu man, its a goddamn thunderstorm outside.

[[NBF]]

Why are you people on your cell phones during a thunder storm?

[canadian_bhoy]

They should call it - the radar appears that the worst is still to come.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/maps/on_toronto/caon0696?ref=qlink_obs_radar

[JuliquE]

You talk as if he waited for all of his players to be safe and indoors (and presumably tucked into bed with some warm milk) before he ran away. He went in long before the rest of the players did. The players on the pitch still didnt even know what was going on when they saw their manager running into the tunnel.



If he isnt a punk then he is a pussy because he ran off while the players, refs, media, support staff and his counterpart waited around to try and figure out what the fuck was going on.

He is trying to get this game replayed and he thought that by being a sneaky little weasel and running away from the pitch, and the media, he has a chance to get away with it.
Lead by example much?

I figure his words may have been falling on deaf ears and so he took action and left, to have others follow.. due to the urgency he's now added, through his actions -- speculation, but we don't know; I think you're getting a bit nuts, before fully understanding the situation. Do your thing, though. :rolleyes:


::EdiT::

Both of Couchy's posts have been legendary; a good laugh, for me.

[Waggy]

Guys, the ignore button is there for a reason. Some people just like to complain, better to either just ignore their posts or ACTUALLY ignore them. It's not worth your time to try and talk some sense into some people. Like the one's who give up on coaches/general managers after less than 1/3 of a season.

[[NBF]]

This is like that big storm in 2004 , just wait till the last minute to evacuate, because in a few hours it will bounce off the cn tower and return to oklahoma or detroit.

[CBTFC]

So I waited with my friend as the half time clock wound down, and noticed that they weren't coming out right away. Was starting to think they'd call the match, and then noticed the lightning off to the west.

We left when they made the 30 min delay announcement at first, and took a cab back to his place. Warm, dry and have cold beer and herbal remedies ;)

I applaud you still down there, but man that thunder and lightning is comin' down hard.

[Walms]

^^
Winer has better things to do atm then talk to a reporter about the rain.....let him get to the boys, light a spark under their arss, and be ready to come back and score 2 goals (fingers crossed) if the game resumes

[Dub Narcotic]

Aron Winter is a novice manager with an under-talented team. It's in his best interest to keep the media onside, I don't know why he has such a burr up his ass about that issue. Maybe he's waiting for Chelsea to call this week.

[Carefree]

Wooo! That last one was a cracker. Go thunder!!!

[craigtfc]

Just got home from the match what minute is the game in when it was called?

[GBV]

Aron Winter is a novice manager with an under-talented team. It's in his best interest to keep the media onside, I don't know why he has such a burr up his ass about that issue. Maybe he's waiting for Chelsea to call this week.

Would love to see him (try to) handle the media around a club like that.
Eaten. Alive.

[A Stick]

Give it time friend. It took Ferguson 6 years to win his first trophy at Manchester United. I think he's work out since ;)

Why did Winter play Gordon against Edmonton in second half when they were up 4-0 on aggregate? We have not seem since his injury and we only have 2 strikers on the team. This was moronic plain and simple. I can see (sort of) what he is trying to do tactically, but his player selection is amateurish at best. The alarms bell went up for me during the first game when he had Cann playing left back. WTF!:(

[DOMIN8R]

So, according to NCC rules, if they decide at 10:45 that the game is called off - we have to replay the entire game tomorrow? Same forecast as tonight BTW.

[Carefree]

By the way, if the game is replayed, what happens to those of us who had tickets to tonight's game? Do we get free tickets to the replay?

[AmherstNY_TFC]

If the referee calls the game, it is deemed abandoned. FIFA Law 8 states:

Abandoned match
An abandoned match is replayed unless the competition rules provide
otherwise.

So, we would start all over again, and those cautioned or sent off could play.

[mclaren]

My prediction: They'll call the game and award the cup to Vancouver. What say you?

[ArmenJBX]

Would goals be resetted though, that's the thing?

[TFC USA]

The weather gods decided we are too fucking terrible at soccer so he decided he can't let us play another 90 minutes of this shit.

[AmherstNY_TFC]

FIFA Law 8 provides that a match that is abandoned is replayed in its entirety, unless competition rules state otherwise.

From the Nutrilite Canadian Championship Competition Rules:

If the match is abandoned before the completion of normal playing time because of extreme weather or for reasons outside the control of the host team, the match shall be replayed in its entirety the following day, thus avoiding the considerable extra expense for the visiting team. If it is still impossible to play the match the next day for the same reasons, the match may be postponed by another day, provided both teams agree. If the match can still not be played on the third day, the expenses thus incurred by the visiting team shall be split between the two teams. A decision will be taken within two hours of the referee’s decision to abandon the match, in consultation with the two clubs concerned. In case of dispute, the CSA Organising Committee fixes the date and kick-off time of the match. Its decision is final

[GBV]

Would goals be resetted though, that's the thing?

I heard they would start from scratch. Not positive though.
Seeing Van coach's frustration, I'm guessing that might be the case.

[denime]

http://www.canadasoccer.com/documents/2011_championship_rulesEN_pdf.pdf


If the referee declares the pitch unplayable, the procedure to be followed is
described in paragraph (12 ) below.

12. If the match is abandoned before the completion of normal playing time because of extreme
weather or for reasons outside the control of the host team, the match shall be replayed in its
entirety the following day, thus avoiding the considerable extra expense for the visiting team.

[TFC USA]

Yikes. This game should not be played at all. Horrible weather.

Oh well, my Bruins need to stop letting in soft goals. :(

[GBV]

From the Nutrilite Canadian Championship Competition Rules:

If the match is abandoned before the completion of normal playing time because of extreme weather or for reasons outside the control of the host team, the match shall be replayed in its entirety the following day, thus avoiding the considerable extra expense for the visiting team. If it is still impossible to play the match the next day for the same reasons, the match may be postponed by another day, provided both teams agree. If the match can still not be played on the third day, the expenses thus incurred by the visiting team shall be split between the two teams. A decision will be taken within two hours of the referee’s decision to abandon the match, in consultation with the two clubs concerned. In case of dispute, the CSA Organising Committee fixes the date and kick-off time of the match. Its decision is final


Thanks!

[mclaren]

I heard they would start from scratch. Not positive though.
Seeing Van coach's frustration, I'm guessing that might be the case.

Did MLSE invest in a weather machine?

[[NBF]]

Why did Winter play Gordon against Edmonton in second half when they were up 4-0 on aggregate? We have not seem since his injury and we only have 2 strikers on the team. This was moronic plain and simple. I can see (sort of) what he is trying to do tactically, but his player selection is amateurish at best. The alarms bell went up for me during the first game when he had Cann playing left back. WTF!:(

Look at the difference between the two head coaches. They are both equally capable of having a strong knowledge of the game, but in terms of expressing his ideas, I think Thordorssen has a better grasp of the english language. It might be that Winter is a novice manager but are there english-dutch and dutch-english dictionaries that translate total football terms? Winter has his hands tied and it will take some time for him to get around the language problem.

[mclaren]

http://www.canadasoccer.com/documents/2011_championship_rulesEN_pdf.pdf


If the referee declares the pitch unplayable, the procedure to be followed is
described in paragraph (12 ) below.

12. If the match is abandoned before the completion of normal playing time because of extreme
weather or for reasons outside the control of the host team, the match shall be replayed in its
entirety the following day, thus avoiding the considerable extra expense for the visiting team.

Crowd going to be quite sparse tomorrow!

[[NBF]]

Wow fans have been evacuated!

[ArmenJBX]

We have a game this saturday.
You know how tough this is going to be for us, Friday and then Saturday?

[Gazza]

Yikes. This game should not be played at all. Horrible weather.

Oh well, my Bruins need to stop letting in soft goals. :(

Fear not, they have Kaberle!

[sully]

The only reasonable action is to cancel this game. The score from this game is voided and the game is played not tomorrow but re-scheduled in a few weeks. To play tomorrow would be stupid - both have game on saturday and the pitch will be in worse condition tomorrow. Lousy on Vancouver but no other way.

[DOMIN8R]

;1306305']Wow fans have been evacuated!

According to SportsNet, all fans have been asked to leave the stadium for safety reasons attributed to the lightning.

[West220Side]

So, left early. Fuck the thunder? (and the whitecaps)
Took off at half time, just got home. Seems we started playing again up to the 60th minute. However, i can't find the game on the TV. It says it was delayed (after the 60th) but did it get called!?

Somebody update?

[TorontoGooner]

BTW, the NEE in the North End looked amazing. Imagine how good having that as the supporters section would be?!

[freygs]

Still delayed. Got delayed on the 62nd minute. Answer should be coming soon

[DOMIN8R]

A decision should be made any minute

[profit89]

The only reasonable action is to cancel this game. The score from this game is voided and the game is played not tomorrow but re-scheduled in a few weeks. To play tomorrow would be stupid - both have game on saturday and the pitch will be in worse condition tomorrow. Lousy on Vancouver but no other way.

Agreed

[TFC USA]

And fuck. Game 7. What a shit ST we had tonight.

Meanwhile, call this game so we can avoid an embarrassing loss in front of an empty stadium.

[mclaren]

If the game is re-played tomorrow, should TFC put one in their own net - good sportsmanship and all that.

[ensco]

According to SportsNet, all fans have been asked to leave the stadium for safety reasons attributed to the lightning.

So it was OK for 15,000 people to stand around in that meccano set for 90 minutes during a thunderstorm, but it's only unsafe at the exact moment they call the game?

Everything that's wrong with sports today, is captured in that small fact.

[ManUtd4ever]

Holy crap, that was insane out there tonight. I just got home drenched to the bone.

If the match is cancelled, I think it might have to be rescheduled for a later date other than tomorrow or Friday, because the rain isn't supposed to let up until Saturday, and both teams already have league matches scheduled that day.

[Walms]

TFC, Shitcaps, CSA, and the reffs are having their meeting as we speak

[s2cazz]

If the game is re-played tomorrow, should TFC put one in their own net - good sportsmanship and all that.

Are you high?:picard:

If not you are a better man than me

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

If the game is re-played tomorrow, should TFC put one in their own net - good sportsmanship and all that.

Haha...this wont be the first ever replayed game in history...to answer your question....fukcouver :)

[Walms]

LMAO..... Mclaren,.....NO

[denime]

So it was OK for 15,000 people to stand around in that meccano set for 90 minutes during a thunderstorm, but it's only unsafe at the exact moment they call the game?

Everything that's wrong with sports today, is captured in that small fact.

Are you trying to blame ML$E for that ? Seriously man :picard:

[Juanito]

If the game is re-played tomorrow, should TFC put one in their own net - good sportsmanship and all that.

Are you on crack?! HELLS NO!!

I see it as the football gods gave us a mulligan!

[Waggy]

Are you trying to blame ML$E for that ? Seriously man :picard:
Kind of. Some of them are on metal seats. MLSE doesn't have to wait for the game to be called to warn people to get away from giant mental objects in the middle of open spaces

[ensco]

Are you trying to blame ML$E for that ? Seriously man :picard:

This is a misrepresentation. It's bigger than MLSE. It's about money, for everybody.

That stadium was just as unsafe at 8.45pm as it was at 10.45pm

I understand that the team and the league are between a rock and a hard place because of the scheduling congestion. But why is public safety sacrificed for that?

[bertal]

pathetic fallacy in FULL FORCE

[mclaren]

Are you on crack?! HELLS NO!!

I see it as the football gods gave us a mulligan!

The spirit of sportsmanship is lost around here! lol

[DOMIN8R]

Pitch has just been inspected by CSA and Sportsnet says that the pitch is now unplayable. No decision has been reached.

Van has said that they are available to play tomorrow - if necessary.

[s2cazz]

any updates yet? Will they announce over the stream?

[denime]

This is a misrepresentation. It's bigger than MLSE. It's about money, for everybody.

That stadium was just as unsafe at 8.45pm as it was at 10.45pm

I understand that the team and the league are between a rock and a hard place because of the scheduling congestion. But why is public safety sacrificed for that?

sorry, I did misunderstood you

[Vince Whirlwind]

do they pick it up where they left off or do they re-do the whole match? anyone know?

[mclaren]

Can you imagine the unending whining if the game is re-played and TFC wins?

[freygs]

redo whole match according to rules

[Dbl_D]

why not a winner takes all on jun 28th plenty of time for concacaf p-lim rounds

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Will replay entire match at 0_0

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Shootout tonight

[Juanito]

The spirit of sportsmanship is lost around here! lol

HA HA HA!

[denime]

any updates yet? Will they announce over the stream?

They are saying field is much worst now than when the game was postponed,unofficially CSA officials told Sportsnet they will postpone it,but they did not want to confirm it once asked by tv reporter.

I would say 99% it will be postponed,if they play tomorrow Vancouver will be late for MLS game,and they don't have full roster here in Toronto,they can't even make a changes for tomorrow game.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Whats the hold up

[DOMIN8R]

This is a misrepresentation. It's bigger than MLSE. It's about money, for everybody.

That stadium was just as unsafe at 8.45pm as it was at 10.45pm...... But why is public safety sacrificed for that?

Euge, for those who were there - the lightning has really picked up since 9 PM. I can hear/see the rain accumulate and hear/see the increase in thunder/lightning.

IMO the conditions are far worse now that they were at 8:45 PM.

Stop living up to your nickname.... the conspiracy theorist. :poke:

[Walms]

my stream died.... any updates??

[freygs]

According to Sportsnet:
The Nutrilite Canadian Championship soccer game between the Whitecaps and TFC has been rained out. The final 30 minutes will resume on Thursday.

[Pachuco]

Sportsnet site says 30 mins to be resumed tommorrow.

[Pachuco]

I've been rained out in games before, and if a certain amount of time had been played the game is over. If not, the game is played again in it's entirety. So it seems weird they are going to play 30mins tommorrow.

[s2cazz]

Asif Hossain: Official - match abandoned, details to follow

[rocker]

they should replay it Wednesday June 8... both teams play the Saturday before and Saturday after but nothing midweek. Not sure if BMO has anything on that night (rugby?).

Tonight was the worst rain I've ever experienced at a TFC game. I remember a NYRB game that was close... and an LA summer game that rained heavy for short bursts before the sun would come out. But that was consistently heavy, hard rain with crazy wind. ugh.

[TOBOR !]

Madness

[Walms]

^^soo the 1-0 score will stand?

[DOMIN8R]

Sportsnet site says 30 mins to be resumed tommorrow.

What? Doesn't that contravene the rules?

[denime]

What? Doesn't that contravene the rules?

YES it does:

http://www.canadasoccer.com/document...ulesEN_pdf.pdf (http://www.canadasoccer.com/documents/2011_championship_rulesEN_pdf.pdf)


If the referee declares the pitch unplayable, the procedure to be followed is
described in paragraph (12 ) below.

12. If the match is abandoned before the completion of normal playing time because of extreme
weather or for reasons outside the control of the host team, the match shall be replayed in its
entirety the following day, thus avoiding the considerable extra expense for the visiting team.

[Pachuco]

What? Doesn't that contravene the rules?

The rules that I played in Ontario under....yes it does. Doens't make sense.

[denime]

FUCK YOU CSA

[Eastend]

So glad I took off at the half and caught the 9pm GO train. At that point I was soaked to the core. I felt bad leaving (first time I've bailed) but I'd had enough. It'll be intereting to see whenthe replay is. I say make the game on the 29th count as leave game and CCL final.

[TOBOR !]

Em-Eye-See.... Kay-Eee-Why....

[leafsman]

why not at least play a half then if your gonna make up the rules, conditions were brutal in the 2nd

[s2cazz]

Asif Hossain: These details are to come. We will use TorontoFC.ca, Facebook & Twitter to give you the details as we know.

No announcement on whether it is only 30 min or not. Sportsnet are retards. I dot trust what they say

[Dbl_D]

YES it does:

http://www.canadasoccer.com/document...ulesEN_pdf.pdf (http://www.canadasoccer.com/documents/2011_championship_rulesEN_pdf.pdf)


If the referee declares the pitch unplayable, the procedure to be followed is
described in paragraph (12 ) below.

12. If the match is abandoned before the completion of normal playing time because of extreme
weather or for reasons outside the control of the host team, the match shall be replayed in its
entirety the following day, thus avoiding the considerable extra expense for the visiting team.
my point is to play the whole game on the 28th of June ;)

[Pachuco]

good point, it is Sportsnet afterall that reporting this. I'm sure they'll apologize and change that heading soon....as usual.

[TOBOR !]

I'm going to bed - g'night.

[DOMIN8R]

It appears that the written rules are not important when it comes to they're application.

I don't even know where to start with this, if the CSA chooses to make up the rules to suit other interests.

[denime]

torontofc (http://twitter.com/#%21/torontofc) Toronto FC



Official word: "Match abandoned, details to follow" ... #TFC (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23TFC) #TorontoFC (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23TorontoFC) #NCC (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23NCC) #MLS (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23MLS)

[mclaren]

Was that lightning or did we just re-sign Marvell Wynne?

[ManUtd4ever]

good point, it is Sportsnet afterall that reporting this. I'm sure they'll apologize and change that heading soon....as usual.

I hope so. It would be a tough break for Vancouver, but the rules seem quite clear as to the viable options.

[menefreghista]

Its entirely possible that TFC doesn't want to play a full 90 minutes either, considering they would have a league game about 48 hours later.

Of course the best solution would be to replay the match on June 8 when both teams are free so that you can give it the proper TV treatment. Let everyone with a ticket stub to today's game in for free.

[West220Side]

How has this not been posted yet!?

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0803/the-weather-ollie-williams-weather-raining-sideways-family-g-demotivational-poster-1204882626.png

[king dave]

Hearing rumblings that a full game will be replayed tomorrow @ 10 am.
Now if it rains all night that pitch will be a lake.
KD.

[mastermixer]

What happened to the top of the line drainage system for the field??

Another MLSE fail?

[Pachuco]

Its entirely possible that TFC doesn't want to play a full 90 minutes either, considering they would have a league game about 48 hours later.

Of course the best solution would be to replay the match on June 8 when both teams are free so that you can give it the proper TV treatment. Let everyone with a ticket stub to today's game in for free.

That's crazy. Then forfeit Saturday's game which is a lot less important than a regular season game not even half way into the season.

[Kilgore Trout]

Hearing rumblings that a full game will be replayed tomorrow @ 10 am.
Now if it rains all night that pitch will be a lake.
KD.
ten AM? AM? AM? on a Thursday?!

edit: sorry, it just blows my mind that the Nutrilite will be decided on a weekday morning in a (probably) empty stadium with no tv coverage.

[Ron Manager]

On TV talking about a full replay.

[stugautz]

I bet MLSE is wishing they kept the bubble, they could use it tonight.

[GBV]

sportsnet site wrong. 11 a.m. full game tomorrow.

[denime]

FULL GAME AT 11am tomorrow

[SirBobSaget]

Hearing rumblings that a full game will be replayed tomorrow @ 10 am.
Now if it rains all night that pitch will be a lake.
KD.

If the replay is at some unreasonable time like 10am then they better be issuing refunds. 4pm would be more reasonable.

[Ron Manager]

Montopoli just said full replay tomorrow depending on pitch conditions.

[ensco]

Euge, for those who were there - the lightning has really picked up since 9 PM. I can hear/see the rain accumulate and hear/see the increase in thunder/lightning.

IMO the conditions are far worse now that they were at 8:45 PM.

Stop living up to your nickname.... the conspiracy theorist. :poke:

But I was there. There was lightning before 9pm. It was unsafe and unplayable by halftime.

[Pachuco]

The rules say that if tommorrow the pitch is still unplayable, then it will be rescheduled for another day. It's possible we'll see this played next Wednesday or something

[DOMIN8R]

11 Am tomorrow the game will be played in it's entirety unless pitch conditions are unplayable.

[DichioTFC]

Sportsnet TV:

Match to be replayed in its entirety Thursday at 11am.

[nascarguy]

Hearing rumblings that a full game will be replayed tomorrow @ 10 am.
Now if it rains all night that pitch will be a lake.
KD.
hey want to go fishing at bmo lake .....lol

[Gazza]

pitch won't be any better.

[DOMIN8R]

But I was there. There was lightning before 9pm. It was unsafe and unplayable by halftime.

Okay. Then I stand corrected and differ to your first hand point of view.

[ManUtd4ever]

Sportsnet just reported the match will be replayed in it's entirety tomorrow at 11:00AM.

The pitch is still going to be brutal though, and the stadium will be virtually empty.

????

[mclaren]

Maybe we can get this guy on a quick loan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fish).

[THA BUTCHA]

Will it be open to the public?

[denime]

Hearing rumblings that a full game will be replayed tomorrow @ 10 am.
Now if it rains all night that pitch will be a lake.
KD.

at 11am if pitch is playable,and I bet you it will be.

Now TFC FO will turn ON the drainage and heating systems that was off today for some strange reason ;)

[Eastend]

Sportsnet Connected just said the game is to be replayed in it's entirety tomorrow at 11:00am.

Damn I type slowly.

[Kilgore Trout]

I'm guessing no tv coverage for the replay?

[rocker]

It's possible we'll see this played next Wednesday or something

can't be next wed -- that's the canada game at BMO. I think they would have to go with Wed June 8.

[Suds]

So the big question is? Can we watch it in any way?

[Heathen]

Give it time friend. It took Ferguson 6 years to win his first trophy at Manchester United. I think he's work out since ;)

ffs stop it with these Ferguson comparisons, he'd already won the SPL and a European Trophy, he also managed Scotland at the 86 World Cup.

[DichioTFC]

Hourly weather report... Rain every hour for the next 24 hours.

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/hourlyfx/caon0696/hourlytable/1

[Greg]

CanadaSoccerEN (http://twitter.com/#%21/CanadaSoccerEN) CanadaSoccer.com



#Championship (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Championship) - match will be replayed in its entirety on Thursday at BMO Field pending playing conditions tomorrow morning. KO is 1100 ET

[ilikemusic]

The best solution is just to concede the game. Its a meaningless trophy and Toronto could do without the CCL games fucking up whatever faint playoff hopes they might have down the line. They have been spared the embarrassment of having a rival win on our field, just concede the game and prepare for a winnable match with Philly. This team is thin enough as it is, it doesnt need 6 more games with a couple trips to Tegucigalpa and Quetzaltenango fucking everything up.

[s2cazz]

So the big question is? Can we watch it in any way?

That is the Million Dollar Question

[J.Neverfold]

So I go to a championship game. Fall behind 1-0. Get drenched. Get kicked out of the stadium. Then game is rescheduled for 11 am. On a Thursday. Not happy.

[ManUtd4ever]

The weather forecast is predicting rain throughout the night and all morning tomorrow. I don't think the match will be played.

[Mark TFC]

Youre talking about the guys on the pitch wearing red, right? Because I totally agree with that.

Nope. I will agree that our performance tonight was not great by any means, but we did apply more pressure than the opposition for the fifteen minutes or so that were played of the second half.

Horrible weather had a serious effect on the turnout, obviously, but if you're gonna go to a game, you have to be prepared for anything.

We'll see what happens tomorrow.

[Nuvinho]

Miracles do happen twice - ask TFC (In Montreal and tonight)

[denime]

good night boys and see you tomorrow

[flamehawk]

The best solution is just to concede the game. Its a meaningless trophy and Toronto could do without the CCL games fucking up whatever faint playoff hopes they might have down the line. They have been spared the embarrassment of having a rival win on our field, just concede the game and prepare for a winnable match with Philly. This team is thin enough as it is, it doesnt need 6 more games with a couple trips to Tegucigalpa and Quetzaltenango fucking everything up.

TBH, I care much more about the Voyageurs Cup and the CCL.. I've pretty much written off this MLS season..

[s2cazz]

Will ticket holders from tonight game be given a price freeze for tomorrows match?

[rocker]

On the positive side, Thordason is tortured once again. Sucker.

[ManUtd4ever]

LOL, the Shitecaps must be wondering what they have to do to win a freaking NCC Trophy!

[QSIM]

anyone know whats up with tickets!!!?!?