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Parkdale
05-02-2011, 07:41 AM
don't forget to VOTE


Edmonton FC off to an embarrassing start (http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&ct2=ca%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&ct3=MAA4AEgAUABgAWoCY2E&usg=AFQjCNGQr6iWvUviFySMEpPXrNffwYW25Q&did=41947b72c907de84&cid=17593890981903&ei=Gqa-TaDIHJP0NdCPjPcB&rt=MORE_COVERAGE&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslam.canoe.ca%2FSlam%2FSoccer%2FC anada%2F2011%2F05%2F02%2F18091086.html)


Missing fans must back Canadian Championship (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/nigelreed/2011/05/missing-fans-must-back-canadian-championship.html)


Poor Weekend For Toronto & Edmonton. (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/05/poor-weekend-toronto-edmonton)


Toronto Fails To Follow Through (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/05/toronto-fails-follow-through)



oh right... http://www.torontosun.com/sunshine-girl

Oldtimer
05-02-2011, 08:15 AM
But Sunday night in the home opener of their existence in the new North American Soccer League, they had all 11 -- including four of them at the back in a train wreck -- and were down 3-0 by the 36th minute against a team which had scored only one goal in the previous 360 minutes.
A totally embarrassed Edmonton FC then lost its keeper to a red card with no substitutions left and had to play a midfielder in goal and lost this one 5-0 to a team in their own league.


So TFC's 3-0 win is nothing to be proud about.

ExiledRed
05-02-2011, 08:27 AM
Edmonton FC off to an embarrassing start (http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&ct2=ca%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&ct3=MAA4AEgAUABgAWoCY2E&usg=AFQjCNGQr6iWvUviFySMEpPXrNffwYW25Q&did=41947b72c907de84&cid=17593890981903&ei=Gqa-TaDIHJP0NdCPjPcB&rt=MORE_COVERAGE&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslam.canoe.ca%2FSlam%2FSoccer%2FC anada%2F2011%2F05%2F02%2F18091086.html)



Whats embarrassing is a sports writer who reports on a game and doesnt bother to mention who was playing.

mastermixer
05-02-2011, 08:32 AM
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So TFC's 3-0 win is nothing to be proud about.

Absolutely not.
The score may have looked convincing but TFC's play was nothing to be proud of against a team as bad as Edmonton is.

Bottom line is this team is just not good at all. I'm not in panic mode yet, but it's definitely brewing for me.

The one thing that I do notice about this team is there seems to be no hustle from players away from the ball, which is probably the most important part of this (I'm sick of hearing this word) system they are trying t play. It's very evident when you see a team like Seattle playing along side us, they are absolutely running circles around us out there.

Auzzy
05-02-2011, 08:58 AM
Interesting comment under the Nigel Reed article:


There's more to why FCE played at Commonwealth. Just to clear their name in the "why on earth did they make that decision" department, the CSA has a set policy for the Voyageurs Cup that all matches must be played on fields lacking football lines, thus Foote was not even an option. Things didn't work out for them on gameday either, with the crappy weather and the ridiculously early kickoff that was forced on them by Sportsnet's unwillingness to use up two different time slots for the games.

Roogsy
05-02-2011, 09:11 AM
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So TFC's 3-0 win is nothing to be proud about.


Did FCE play a man down for most of the game against Montreal as well? If it was late in the game then our win looks even less impressive.

Derko
05-02-2011, 09:52 AM
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So TFC's 3-0 win is nothing to be proud about.


This year I will take any win and goals scored as a positive thing!!

Derko
05-02-2011, 09:55 AM
Absolutely not.
The score may have looked convincing but TFC's play was nothing to be proud of against a team as bad as Edmonton is.

Bottom line is this team is just not good at all. I'm not in panic mode yet, but it's definitely brewing for me.

The one thing that I do notice about this team is there seems to be no hustle from players away from the ball, which is probably the most important part of this (I'm sick of hearing this word) system they are trying t play. It's very evident when you see a team like Seattle playing along side us, they are absolutely running circles around us out there.

It's almost like some TFC players have to stop and think about it before they engage in the play, should there not be a natural flow to the play?

Eastend
05-02-2011, 10:00 AM
Did FCE play a man down for most of the game against Montreal as well? If it was late in the game then our win looks even less impressive.

nope, lost the keeper in the 84th minute or so....

TFCRegina
05-02-2011, 10:05 AM
Whats embarrassing is a sports writer who reports on a game and doesnt bother to mention who was playing.

What's embarrassing is the club is 2-0-2 in season play. They're doing better than TFC.

Darlofletch
05-02-2011, 10:16 AM
It's almost like some TFC players have to stop and think about it before they engage in the play, should there not be a natural flow to the play?

Ideally yes. It does seem like they're trying to do something new, that they're not really familiar with, and that's making them hesitant right now. Gargan talked about how it was a cerebral system and you really have to think. I imagine at this level, confidence and playing by instinct are hugely important, and thinking too much can be a killer.

That would be my guess as to why we always start slowly, start to get better then start slowly again in the second. winter's tactics put them out of their comfort zone, they eventually revert to what they know and so look a bit better playing their natural game, then at half time winter again tries to instill what he wants, thus they're hesitant again.

academy kids brought up this way will be able to play the system as it'll be what comes naturally to them, but the current first team, especially those those to whom it's a new thing are going to seem like they're fighting their own instincts which can't be a good thing.

exhibit a) tony tchani. really impressed me his first couple of games (before too much coaching) with his energy and physical presence. lately, aside from his goal, he's been hesitant and much less noticeable

hopefully winter's system becomes more instinctive to them all sooner rather than later.

DavydMT
05-02-2011, 10:29 AM
http://psychotic-one.com/images/tfcacademy2.jpg

Parkdale
05-02-2011, 11:13 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/academy_game_small.jpg

jloome
05-02-2011, 12:08 PM
It's almost like some TFC players have to stop and think about it before they engage in the play, should there not be a natural flow to the play?

Actually, this system is designed to be played with interchangeable positions and movement, so it's really not a matter of thinking, but of learning. If they haven't learned, and have to think about it, they're going to be in trouble.

But it's also not that hard to grasp. As long as they can maintain morale and Winter and De Kleerk can get them to the point where their movement to their next responsibility is automatic, it'll be very smooth and effective eventually.

Having said that, there are times when it's not smart to build from the back, when getting the ball up to the midfielders quickly, at the very least, is sensible strategy. That's not longball, it's adapting to pressure.

Derko
05-02-2011, 01:12 PM
Actually, this system is designed to be played with interchangeable positions and movement, so it's really not a matter of thinking, but of learning. If they haven't learned, and have to think about it, they're going to be in trouble.

But it's also not that hard to grasp. As long as they can maintain morale and Winter and De Kleerk can get them to the point where their movement to their next responsibility is automatic, it'll be very smooth and effective eventually.

Having said that, there are times when it's not smart to build from the back, when getting the ball up to the midfielders quickly, at the very least, is sensible strategy. That's not longball, it's adapting to pressure.

Agree 100% :scarf:

Auzzy
05-02-2011, 01:26 PM
don't forget to VOTE




How are we supposed to vote if you don't even post a poll here? ;)

Yagbod
05-02-2011, 01:57 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/academy_game_small.jpg

Wedding anniversay vs TFC Academy.... hmmmm maybe I can tell her it is a surprise night out on the town... "fine dining (Joe's) followed by live entertainment". :thumbsup:

TFCwestcan
05-02-2011, 06:30 PM
Has anyone mentioned that "it's going to be a long season" yet?

I guess the realization that the earlier games against "easier" opposition really didn't give an accurate picture about this team. That said they played well against Columbus so let's have some hope for the next game. One game at a time I suppose.

JuliquE
05-02-2011, 07:05 PM
Great news for Canada's attack (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02052011/58/championship-jackson-sends-norwich-premier-league.html)

Also wanted to mention that this site has started to track MLS matches (live/result and upcoming) since this weekend, which I thought was a testament to the strides our league has made.

markus
05-02-2011, 09:12 PM
It's Called Football Show (http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/content.php?126-it-s-called-football&)
10pm