Real Salt Lake vs Saprissa

[Alonso]

10:00pm Eastern kickoff for both matches, streaming available:

http://www.concacaf.com/page/Home/0,,12813,00.html



Link to the game, registration is free to watch. Plus Canada vs Mexico U20's will be on at the same time as some of you already know.

Not sure if this thread was started elsewhere, I couldn't see one.

[DichioTFC]

Deportivo Saprissa v Real Salt Lake 2.20 3.30 2.85 http://www.sportingbet.com/sports-football/latin-america-concacaf-champions-league-matches-deportivo-saprissa-v-real-salt-lake/2-102-103558-1694570.html

interesting how close the bookies have it. RSL is the strongest MLS team right now, should be a good show.

I'm thinking 2-1 RSL.

[sulfur]

RSL comes in with a 2-0 advantage on aggregate.

[Alonso]

Yeah this one could be a barn burner! Lots of goals!

[DichioTFC]

RSL comes in with a 2-0 advantage on aggregate.

Wasn't aware of that. Saw a bit of a headline somewhere about how they're brimming with confidence. One away goal can wrap this up for them.

[DichioTFC]

btw, in case anyone was wondering, the stream is up, showing the fans getting pumped.

[Alonso]

This needs to be brought to BMO.

People need to show up (in seats an hour early) and get pumped...

Maybe one day.

[DichioTFC]

This needs to be brought to BMO.

People need to show up (in seats an hour early) and get pumped...

Maybe one day.

That.

Getting BMO to mic up the pre-game chanting would be better than what plays before games right now.

[RicoSuave44]

wow stadium looks rocking!

[kodiakTFC]

This is probably the best atmosphere I've seen in Concacaf.

[Oldtimer]

wow stadium looks rocking!

Amazing atmosphere.

RSL looks possibly set to make it to the final, which will be great for MLS.

* Sigh * wish it was us. Well RSL had a crap team once with incompetent management. Maybe some day we'll be there.

[DichioTFC]

Just a reminder, if we got points against Arabe Unido and RSL, this could've been our team.

[Alonso]

Just a reminder, if we got points against Arabe Unido and RSL, this could've been our team.


Aahhhhh.... to dream! Forgot what thats like.

[Alonso]

How was that free kick not called? Was the RSL player not pulled down there?

[DichioTFC]

How was that free kick not called? Was the RSL player not pulled down there?

So the pro-Saprissa count is at one so far? Let's see how high the refs take it.

[Whoop]

LOL... livescores has the match in the 61st minute.

[Oldtimer]

Beckerman is having a great game.

RSL is living the dream. Doing well in the CCL, and in 1st place in MLS.

[DichioTFC]

RSL look like they're on the verge of getting a successful counter every time, only a pass or two away most times.

[Oldtimer]

RSL look like they're on the verge of getting a successful counter every time, only a pass or two away most times.

very nice positioning.

[DichioTFC]

Pro-Saprissa count: 2

[Kaz]

RSL comes in with a 2-0 advantage on aggregate.

Of course when Montreal played Santos a few years back during their quarter final run they were up 2-0 on aggregate as well.

[Whoop]

Didn't realize Saprissa plays on turf.

[Alonso]

Ouch

[DichioTFC]

Beckerman should've buried it. Great movement by RSL.

[Alonso]

Didn't realize Saprissa plays on turf.


Yeah I thought it looked like turf, but then I thought it can't be can it?

[Whoop]

Looked way offside.

[2mil4dero+santo]

Beckerman should've buried it. Great movement by RSL.

hopefully that doesn't come back to haunt them...

[Oldtimer]

Beckerman should've buried it. Great movement by RSL.

Good non-call by the ref. It was touched by a defender therefore not offside.

[Whoop]

Yeah I thought it looked like turf, but then I thought it can't be can it?

It is...

[2mil4dero+santo]

Looked way offside.

no way, beckerman was NOT offside, did you see the replay?

[Alonso]

Beckerman should've buried it. Great movement by RSL.


Yeah RSL starting to take the game over, they look great out there.

[Whoop]

Good non-call by the ref. It was touched by a defender therefore not offside.

Didn't realize it was.

[2mil4dero+santo]

Good non-call by the ref. It was touched by a defender therefore not offside.
thats not the reason, he wasn't in an offside position when the ball was kicked - watch the replay again...

[DichioTFC]

Yeah RSL starting to take the game over, they look great out there.

RSL does look impressive, and it all started with confident and patient defense when Saprissa was threatening.

[DichioTFC]

i like how saprissa plays defense as well. the full back comes up to challenge for any long balls, CB a few feet away ready to help out when the ball gets settled.

[Alonso]

Anyone know what the u20's are doing at the moment? Any score?

[kodiakTFC]

Anyone know what the u20's are doing at the moment? Any score?

Its 1-0 Mexico on one of the most unlucky goals i've seen in a while. Mexican player crossed it in but he missed his target and instead got the upper 90 with the goalie out.

[2mil4dero+santo]

i like how saprissa plays defense as well. the full back comes up to challenge for any long balls, CB a few feet away ready to help out when the ball gets settled.

amazing how good it looks when we're used to TFC every week lol

[DichioTFC]

amazing how good it looks when we're used to TFC every week lol

we get it, you're not a TFC fan. give it a rest.

[Alonso]

amazing how good it looks when we're used to TFC every week lol


Yeah. ^^

Although we looked good at home against Cruz Azul last year. I don't know what happened, aliens must of abducted our players and replaced them with clones.

[Pachuco]

I think Morales is the best player in the MLS right now.

[2mil4dero+santo]

wow what a save

[DichioTFC]

Borchers with a real chance...

[Alonso]

When we lose Frie we'll need to sign Victor Bolivar.

[nfitz]

Bizarre ... GOL TV Canada is carrying the game ... but not until 12:30 AM? I'd assumed that was the start time. In the US FSW is carrying it live, so the signal was available, and GOL is carrying nothing but repeated 30-minute shows tonight. Tomorrow's all-Mexican semi-final is live ...

I don't get it.

Starting to look like we'll see RSL in the final!

[DichioTFC]

Bizarre ... GOL TV Canada is carrying the game ... but not until 12:30 AM? I'd assumed that was the start time. In the US FSW is carrying it live, so the signal was available, and GOL is carrying nothing but repeated 30-minute shows tonight. Tomorrow's all-Mexican semi-final is live ...

I don't get it.

Starting to look like we'll see RSL in the final!

I'm sure they have a reason, and I"m sure that reason is a stupid one
:)

[Alonso]

Man of the half: Victor Bolivar

It should be 2-0 RSL

[DichioTFC]

Great half for RSL. 45 minutes away from making history.

[2mil4dero+santo]

we get it, you're not a TFC fan. give it a rest.

wow thx buddy what was that for?!!

[LucaGol]

I think Morales is the best player in the MLS right now.

I'm gonna have to agree with this.

[Blowing Bubbles]

45 mins ....... really really want RSL to get to the final.

[Alonso]

45 mins ....... really really want RSL to get to the final.


Yeah that would be a great step forward for MLS.

I see MLS dominating this tournament in 10-15 years if the league keeps building like it is.

[DichioTFC]

wow thx buddy what was that for?!!

http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1267657#post1267657
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1267159#post1267159
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1267154#post1267154
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1265856#post1265856
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1265785#post1265785
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1264605#post1264605

and thats just recently.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

I dream of being in this situation.....will be the greatest moment of our TFC lives...

pulling for RSL here!...never thought id say that about another team...HATS off!

[noochie]

I think Morales is the best player in the MLS right now.


Tough to argue that. I would take a healthy Shalrie Joseph though or Wondolowski.

Re: The Game... that turf looks terrible... RSL are doing a phenomenal job controlling the ball on that surface.

[Alonso]

wow thx buddy what was that for?!!


^^^ lol

Be careful what you ask for.

I think the negativity is getting to people around here, can't blame them really.

[DichioTFC]

Yeah that would be a great step forward for MLS.

I see MLS dominating this tournament in 10-15 years if the league keeps building like it is.

MLS teams haven't been to the final since the late 90s. Galaxy have been to two finals, won once. DC United won once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions_League

I don't know about dominating, but I can totally see MLS teams at least being competitive with the strong Mexican teams.

[2mil4dero+santo]

http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1267657#post1267657
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1267159#post1267159
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1267154#post1267154
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1265856#post1265856
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1265785#post1265785
http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1264605#post1264605

and thats just recently.

buddy ur kinda starting to scare me a little... a couple jokes about our back line isn't anything to get obsessed about. Even Denime and senior members have made similar comments. relax a little I was just having fun...

[Blowing Bubbles]

how many years left on Kyle Beckerman's contract?

[2mil4dero+santo]

Tough to argue that. I would take a healthy Shalrie Joseph though or Wondolowski.

Re: The Game... that turf looks terrible... RSL are doing a phenomenal job controlling the ball on that surface.

the passing is great, especially considering its turf. It looks wet too?

[Alonso]

MLS teams haven't been to the final since the late 90s. Galaxy have been to two finals, won once. DC United won once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions_League

I don't know about dominating, but I can totally see MLS teams at least being competitive with the strong Mexican teams.


:drinking: Well here's to hoping!

[rocker]

wow the refs were smiling coming out of the tunnel.. guess they got their bribe money from Saprissa. watch out.

[DichioTFC]

Tough to argue that. I would take a healthy Shalrie Joseph though or Wondolowski.

Re: The Game... that turf looks terrible... RSL are doing a phenomenal job controlling the ball on that surface.

Wondo has been incredible for the past year, but Morales gives a strong argument for best player in the league right now. Gonzalez and Le Toux are definitely honourable mentions for best player.

[DichioTFC]

Its funny how the commentator doesn't know that previous MLS teams have been to the final, let alone won it all

[kodiakTFC]

uh oh. nice goal by saprissa.

[mowe]

What a goal! They're back in it!

[Blowing Bubbles]

good lord here it comes :(

[2mil4dero+santo]

wow the refs were smiling coming out of the tunnel.. guess they got their bribe money from Saprissa. watch out.

lol u really dont like concacaf refs do you!

[Alonso]

wow the refs were smiling coming out of the tunnel.. guess they got their bribe money from Saprissa. watch out.


And an all you can eat pass to the local strip club.

[kodiakTFC]

Its funny how the commentator doesn't know that previous MLS teams have been to the final, let alone won it all

He might be talking about the Champions League strictly and not the previous iteration, Champions Cup.

[Pachuco]

Holy shit. what a goal. sign this dude.

[2mil4dero+santo]

game on...

[DichioTFC]

40 minutes of Preki-ball? ;)

[kodiakTFC]

good lord here it comes :(

I was thinking the same thing but then I reminded myself I'm not watching Toronto FC.

[DichioTFC]

He might be talking about the Champions League strictly and not the previous iteration, Champions Cup.

Granted. Also, he's screwing up Rimando's first name. Who's Tony Rimando?

[Alonso]

I was thinking the same thing but then I reminded myself I'm not watching Toronto FC.


Blasphemy!

[DichioTFC]

Espindola's first touch is ridiculously bad.

[Pachuco]

I'm impressed with the support Saprissa have. Stadium is packed and voices are loud.

[Blowing Bubbles]

RSL has 5 south americans and Saborio so I don't think they'll be intimidated but this is going to be a rough 2nd half.

[Alonso]

I'm impressed with the support Saprissa have. Stadium is packed and voices are loud.


Yeah its nice to watch, they were in their seats at least half hour before the game signing, jumping and pumping up the atmosphere nicely.

[DichioTFC]

RSL getting sloppy.

[rocker]

Granted. Also, he's screwing up Rimando's first name. Who's Tony Rimando?

the commentaor also says "Jason Crease" and "OLAV".. haha

[DichioTFC]

Saprissa getting cheap calls now. Rocker might be right about the bribes lol

[DichioTFC]

GOAL!!!!!

[Pachuco]

Game over!

[noochie]

big mountain now... nice job RSL

[Blowing Bubbles]

missed the goal someoene describe it for me please

[rocker]

looked like the ballboy just came on the field and handed the ref some more money. hahaha

[Blowing Bubbles]

oh ya, that's a volley from a centreback. Man RSL is just stacked with above average players everywhere in their lineup

[DichioTFC]

looked like the ballboy just came on the field and handed the ref some more money. hahaha

LOL that was classic. The ref's hand was in his pocket while the CONCACAF cameras were on him


missed the goal someoene describe it for me please

Morales corner came in, jump ball bounced up off another Saprissa defender's shoulder, Olave roundhoused it top shelf.

[Yohan]

oh ya, that's a volley from a centreback. Man RSL is just stacked with above average players everywhere in their lineup
nah. a lot of average players that have been playing together for a long time so they know each other well (well, except Morales, Saborio, Olave)

[Blowing Bubbles]

Espindola, Morales, Saborio, Olave and Beckerman would be the 5 best players on TFC

or for the Euronits .... the 5 most effective players in this league at this time.

[DichioTFC]

nah. a lot of average players that have been playing together for a long time so they know each other well (well, except Morales, Saborio, Olave)

Borchers, Olave and Morales were all on the MLS Best XI this past season. Rimando and Beckerman could've easily earned a selection. Will Johnson is always pretty good.

Seems like they have some really great players.

[Blowing Bubbles]

RSL 3 losses in their last 37 games ..... that's a remarkable stat that cuts across pretty much all leagues around the world.

[Yohan]

Borchers, Olave and Morales were all on the MLS Best XI this past season. Rimando and Beckerman could've easily earned a selection. Will Johnson is always pretty good.

Seems like they have some really great players.like I said, they look great because they make each other look great. RSL plays a great team game, sprinkled with some individual brilliance.

Put guys like Johnson, Russell, Borchers, Beltran, Espindola in an another MLS team and they wouldn't look as good as they do in RSL. don't get me wrong. I'd love to have these guys play for TFC but I don't try to overrate them either

[DichioTFC]

like I said, they look great because they make each other look great. RSL plays a great team game, sprinkled with some individual brilliance.

Put guys like Johnson, Russell, Borchers, Beltran, Espindola in an another MLS team and they wouldn't look as good as they do in RSL. don't get me wrong. I'd love to have these guys play for TFC but I don't try to overrate them either

Fair enough. The RSL MVP has to be Jason Kreis, he's done a brilliant job.

[Alonso]

Luis Cordero.... Two solid cracks on goal with one counting. I think TFC should be looking south a lot more then they're doing.

[rocker]

Great Save By Tony Romando!!!!:picard:

[DichioTFC]

Luis Cordero.... Two solid cracks on goal with one counting. I think TFC should be looking south a lot more then they're doing.

100% agree. We need a CONCACAF / South American scout. Even if its just for season-long loans, we're missing out on some high-quality players.

[noochie]

Great Save By Tony Romando!!!!:picard:

lol... he has been calling him Tony all night. shameful.

[DichioTFC]

Great Save By Tony Romando!!!!:picard:
First pic on Google images for Tony Romando:
http://www.patrickmcmullan.com/pmc_images/2004/01-January04/29/YearInTheLifeAndyWarhol_DB_012904/Thumbnail/tnTRomandoRStulberg_012904.JPG

[DichioTFC]

Things are getting interesting...

[Blowing Bubbles]

^ Colombia has been mined so effectively already by everyone else in MLS. There must be at least 15 guys from there in the league.

We need to scoop another country ... Ecuador, Peru or whatever.

[Alonso]

^ Colombia has been mined so effectively already by everyone else in MLS. There must be at least 15 guys from there in the league.

We need to scoop another country ... Ecuador, Peru or whatever.

Exaclty.

Their is at least 2 solid players on Saprissa that we might want to consider trying to poach.

[Whoop]

I agree. I had an argument with a guy once saying that there has to be 20-21 year olds in SA who could probably make more money in the MLS than in SA who could use the MLS as a springboard to Europe if they wanted to.

But I was told kids don't want to leave SA. :rolleyes:

[DichioTFC]

^ Colombia has been mined so effectively already by everyone else in MLS. There must be at least 15 guys from there in the league.

We need to scoop another country ... Ecuador, Peru or whatever.


Exaclty.

Their is at least 2 solid players on Saprissa that we might want to consider trying to poach.

Like Alonso says, we should focus on clubs, rather than countries. The strongest clubs in CONCACAF are well known, buying a player straight up or getting them on loan could help fill holes.

[Alonso]

Congrats to RSL, looking forward to watching the final.

19th of April.

[MarkoftheDrink]

Congrats RSL, way to rep MLS!

[DichioTFC]

Well done RSL. Well deserved.

[Yohan]

Like Alonso says, we should focus on clubs, rather than countries. The strongest clubs in CONCACAF are well known, buying a player straight up or getting them on loan could help fill holes.
hard to buy players with just allocation money. and SA clubs would only let their scrub players go on loan to MLS, because what benefit do they get from letting their good players go on loan to MLS?

[jloome]

People mistake not signing these players for not wanting to.

On an international scouting basis, Saprissa is a well-known club, producing a fair chunk of Costa Rica's national team over the last two decades.

But these clubs want serious coin for these players. You might recall we were on the verge of signign a central american fullback a few years ago and Celtic scooped him basically at the last second, coughing up a million bucks for the privilege.

[Alonso]

hard to buy players with just allocation money. and SA clubs would only let their scrub players go on loan to MLS, because what benefit do they get from letting their good players go on loan to MLS?


There's examples of good young latin players coming to MLS, like Montero and Saborio to name some.

[ag futbol]

^ Money is out there being spent though.

In our case we spent considerable amounts of cash on Pablo Vitti and to be frank if we had used it cost effectively we could have got a lot more player for the money.

There's not enough to spend it on every signing and it isn't endless, but it is possible.

[Alonso]

I'd put Santos in there too, he's not being paid exorbedent amounts of money and is well worth having on TFC.

Sign up another one or two of him.

Just sayin, doesn't seem like TFC has ever done due diligence south of the U.S.

[Yohan]

There's examples of good young latin players coming to MLS, like Montero and Saborio to name some.
you know, I don't think anyone knows exactly how did Fredy Montero end up in MLS. IIRC something to do with some third ownership who basically sold Montero to the league?

Not sure why Saborio was let go by his former Swiss club?

There are exceptions to the rule...

[Alonso]

you know, I don't think anyone knows exactly how did Fredy Montero end up in MLS. IIRC something to do with some third ownership who basically sold Montero to the league?

Not sure why Saborio was let go by his former Swiss club?

There are exceptions to the rule...

I thought Montero was a loan deal, and from what Ive heard MLS only takes loan deals if there is an agreed price for the player before hand and the buying of the player is a garunteed option for MLS.

And he was bought. IIRC

[DichioTFC]

hard to buy players with just allocation money. and SA clubs would only let their scrub players go on loan to MLS, because what benefit do they get from letting their good players go on loan to MLS?

how do the MLS rules work with purchasing an expensive player's contract? say if TFC wanted to purchase Drogba for example and the selling point was $10M, couldn't MLSE purchase out of their own funds?

SA scrub > MLS scrubs. Having a depth player might be worth it, I'm not fooling myself into thinking we're getting some Giovanni Dos Santos or Carlos Vela.

[Alonso]

how do the MLS rules work with purchasing an expensive player's contract? say if TFC wanted to purchase Drogba for example and the selling point was $10M, couldn't MLSE purchase out of their own funds?

SA scrub > MLS scrubs. Having a depth player might be worth it, I'm not fooling myself into thinking we're getting some Giovanni Dos Santos or Carlos Vela.


Exactly, just the Monteros, Saborios, Santos, Junihnos...

Who am I missing their has to be many more?

[Waggy]

As I recall from past arguments on the board- MLS pays any transfer fees. But I'm sure their spending rules would be bendable if someone was trying to buy a Drogba.

[Yohan]

how do the MLS rules work with purchasing an expensive player's contract? say if TFC wanted to purchase Drogba for example and the selling point was $10M, couldn't MLSE purchase out of their own funds?
unless rules got changed again, allocation money are to be used for transfer fee and anything excess of allocation money held is charged against salary cap.


SA scrub > MLS scrubs. Having a depth player might be worth it, I'm not fooling myself into thinking we're getting some Giovanni Dos Santos or Carlos Vela.
generally agreed. though MLS had some bad SA players like Franco Nieto or Matias Mantilla. and you probably don't want to waste a int slot on a depth player

[kodiakTFC]

highlights http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/Video/HighlightsDetail2/0,,12856~2331972,00.html

[akoto]

Anyone watching Cruz Azul vs Monterrey?

[kodiakTFC]

its 1-0 Cruz Azul at half. 2-2 on aggregate with Cruz Azul in the lead on away goals. Stadium is rammed.

[sulfur]

1-0 at halftime for Cruz Azul? I think that means that they're going through if things stay.

I seem to recall that the first leg was played in Monterrey, and Monterrey won that one 2-1.

[akoto]

Correct. It's been a pretty entertaining game so far.

[kodiakTFC]

That was an impressive TIFO.

[kodiakTFC]

WOW. Cruz Azul has riot police who hold up shields to protect the players taking corners for Monterrey.

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Pulling for Monterrey. Great fans, they'll pack em in for the final.

Edit: Okay I take that back, Cruz Azul has a pretty good crowd for this game.

[kodiakTFC]

1-1 Monterrey scored and are now ahead on aggregate 3-2.

[kodiakTFC]

Amazing save from the Monterrey keeper. Might have got them into the final.

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Good football day today. I watched a Belgian Cup game, a UEFA CL game, this game, and I'm going to watch the Vancouver game next. Good day to have off.

[Derko]

Just a reminder, if we got points against Arabe Unido and RSL, this could've been our team.

Preki fucked that one up didn't he.