Will Mo Show Up?

[Red CB Toronto]

With him still residing in the beaches it got me thinking, will Mo show up at BMO on Saturday? It would be interesting to see what the reaction would be if he was strolling around the BMO. I bumped into him at the MLS Cup so he has already been back once anyways.

[Pinkie]

well he was certainly there at the mls cup...and didn't appreciate getting insulted by a certain someone *cough*azerban*cough*

[Parkdale]

is he still living here?

Mo's like a Teflon Gangster - he's just too slick to do anything that dumb. Showing up at BMO would be sticking his neck out and asking for trouble.

[mastermixer]

You mean he hasn't been escorted out of the city limits?

I'd love for them to show his face on the big screen.

[Red CB Toronto]

is he still living here?

Mo's like a Teflon Gangster - he's just too slick to do anything that dumb. Showing up at BMO would be sticking his neck out and asking for trouble.

Apparently he does, plus he was walking around on the west concourse during the MLS Cup.

[BFin]

Why is this not in the pre-game thread??

[Bars92]

wee mucker

[Roogsy]

He dared show his face??? :eek:

Honestly...you gotta have cojones the size of basketballs.

[ensco]

Guys, why hate Mo? Why get personal? It's not his fault he failed, it's the fault of the people who hired him. They didn't do their homework, then doubled down on a bad decision.

When you get in the water with a shark, and the shark bites you, does it really make sense to blame the shark?

Mo fought for grass, and actually acquired quite a few good players for nothing (Dichio, Wynne, Guevara).... before it all went to hell, that is.

(Not saying anyone should love Mo, don't get me wrong!)

[Gazza]

He lives in my neighbourhood? I did not know that.

I know the guys in my row will be giving him the most ironic, slow clap standing ovation ever done.

If he does show up, he proves that he's got some big ones under his kilt.

[Roogsy]

Guys, why hate Mo? Why get personal? It's not his fault he failed, it's the fault of the people who hired him. They didn't do their homework, then doubled down on a bad decision.

When you get in the water with a shark, and the shark bites you, does it really make sense to blame the shark?

He fought for grass, he actually acquired quite a bit of talent.... before it all went to hell, that is.

(Not saying anyone should love Mo, don't get me wrong!)


It was a bad decision to hire him but then when in place, he did some dishonest and quite frankly unethical things. That is on him.

AND he didn't ask for help. His ego held him back from recommending a proper structure with the team where he could have had competent personnel under him that would have done a good job and made him look good. Instead, he played politics and protected his job as long as he could and filled support staff with lackeys.

No...there is much responsibility on his shoulders. 5 years wasted. Tons of money down the drain. Strained relationships everywhere. Between the club, the players, the fans, the supporters groups...hell even the media. This is a Type 1 clusterfuck and he has a ton of responsibility over it.

So yeah, it's reached a personal level for me. If I see him, I will give him a piece of my mind.

[Suds]

Guys, why hate Mo? He fought for grass, he did some good things before it all went to hell.

Why get personal? It's not his fault he failed, it's the fault of the people who hired him.

(Not saying anyone should love him, don't get me wrong!)

What??? That has to be the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.

Hahahahaaa!!!!! Hey everyone. If you ever get fired for being lousy at your job, while in the exit interview tell the HR people that it was not your fault you messed up it was the people who hired you. "I absolve myself of all decisions I made. It's not my fault"

OK, ok. You are joking, right? :smilielol5:

[TFC Bhoy]

Guys, why hate Mo? Why get personal?
I have been hating Mo since I was kid, but thats just because he is Judas. But I wont be bringing that up again, but ya, I've always had a hate on for Mo, tried to cut him some slack but couldn't. Now Im happy to openly hate him again :D lol

[Derko]

People can be upset and vent that is their choice and right, I don't take things personal, I won't applaud Mo, nor will I boo Mo, I'll be watching the match. Yes he did fuck up and he got fired, too late mind you!!

[Beach_Red]

It was a bad decision to hire him but then when in place, he did some dishonest and quite frankly unethical things. That is on him.

AND he didn't ask for help. His ego held him back from recommending a proper structure with the team where he could have had competent personnel under him that would have done a good job and made him look good. Instead, he played politics and protected his job as long as he could and filled support staff with lackeys.

No...there is much responsibility on his shoulders. 5 years wasted. Tons of money down the drain. Strained relationships everywhere. Between the club, the players, the fans, the supporters groups...hell even the media. This is a Type 1 clusterfuck and he has a ton of responsibility over it.

So yeah, it's reached a personal level for me. If I see him, I will give him a piece of my mind.


Are you absolutely certain about that? Are you sure he wasn't played, too?

Anyway, if he goes to the game it's unlikely he'll take his kids.

[ExiledRed]

Guys, why hate Mo? Why get personal? It's not his fault he failed, it's the fault of the people who hired him. They didn't do their homework, then doubled down on a bad decision.

When you get in the water with a shark, and the shark bites you, does it really make sense to blame the shark?

He fought for grass, he actually acquired quite a bit of talent.... before it all went to hell, that is.

(Not saying anyone should love Mo, don't get me wrong!)

100% behind this post.

People in other threads are already stating that this season Winter should have the right to do worse than Mo did in season one. (6-17-7) despite the fact that Winter doesnt have close to the problems that Mo had to deal with other than a couple of good players who are unhappy about their contracts.

Id just like to reiterate, what Mo had working against him.

Slim pickings in the expansion draft (which it was widely reported that he 'owned' anyway.)

Players who had hissy fits about coming here, and in the case of Nate Jacqua, the option to refuse to come and demand a trade to LA.

Fieldturf, increasing difficulty with signing players and heightening injury risk.

Over fatigue due to fieldturf, during busy schedules.

90% key players on international callup at the same time.

devastating injuries like Ronnie O Brien's knee and Dichio's concussion.

No ability or will from FO to sign a DP.

overhyped canadian talent (the canadian shield), which Mo was forced to acquire, and turned out to be utter garbage.

The spectre of TFC'c sizeable Celtic fan contingent, turning the screw.

An FO, that set up the team purely to exist in the league, with a 'it would be great if we did win....but the real focus is bums in seats' mentality.

I'd like to point out too, that prior to the season opener in 2007, it was widely reported that Mo had done a stellar job and 'on paper' had assembled one of the strongest teams in the league.

Mo's fbiggest failure was finding width and goalscorers, The Barrett solution which the league forced on him, was the beginning of the end.

[Suds]

Anyone who would take decisions Mo made personally and launch a verbal assault at the guy would need to have their head checked. I'm all for passion, but that's just immature.

He did what he thought was right. Those decisions did not pan out so he lost his job. That's all there is to it. Happens all the time in sport. Heroes and villains; that's what makes it fun.

[Roogsy]

Are you absolutely certain about that? Are you sure he wasn't played, too?

Anyway, if he goes to the game it's unlikely he'll take his kids.

Resources were made available to him and what he did with them was to ensure he did not bring in anyone that would threaten his position.

And yes I am certain about it.

[P-NUTZ]

i think he's a slimy douchebag - and i dont care what anyone says.

[Torontotonto]

He lives in my neighbourhood? I did not know that.

I know the guys in my row will be giving him the most ironic, slow clap standing ovation ever done.

If he does show up, he proves that he's got some big ones under his kilt.

My neighborhood too.
He frequent's the Balmy Beach Club on the boardwalk in the summer months.

[ManUtd4ever]

Guys, why hate Mo? Why get personal? It's not his fault he failed, it's the fault of the people who hired him. They didn't do their homework, then doubled down on a bad decision.

When you get in the water with a shark, and the shark bites you, does it really make sense to blame the shark?

Mo fought for grass, and actually acquired quite a few good players for nothing (Dichio, Wynne, Guevara).... before it all went to hell, that is.

(Not saying anyone should love Mo, don't get me wrong!)

Agreed. Mo wasn't a visionary by any means, but he was always passionate about TFC and the city. I'm glad he's gone but I certainly hold no ill will towards him.

[BFin]

Do you guys think Yeoman will show up?

[Yeoman]

much better thread now ^

[BFin]

I wonder what footwear DeRo will have on?

[Yeoman]

a cleat?

[BFin]

What route do you think MoJo would take to the stadium? Lakeshore?

[Yeoman]

naw backroads are easier on game days
more shadier that way, just like him

[ensco]

What??? That has to be the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.

Hahahahaaa!!!!! Hey everyone. If you ever get fired for being lousy at your job, while in the exit interview tell the HR people that it was not your fault you messed up it was the people who hired you. "I absolve myself of all decisions I made. It's not my fault"

OK, ok. You are joking, right? :smilielol5:

You and I are talking about two different things. Mo could have had a job for life here. He screwed the pooch. No two ways about it.

Did Mo do some good things? Yes. Was he a devious guy who put his own self interest above the team sometimes? Yes.

Do you think will Anselmi and Winter are putting, or may someday put, their own self interest above that of the team?

Did we ever, or do we now, have the people or systems in place to manage those conflict issues?

[ensco]

Resources were made available to him and what he did with them was to ensure he did not bring in anyone that would threaten his position.

And yes I am certain about it.

This is what I was talking about in my post.

If this is true, I blame Anselmi for this. 100%.

[Roogsy]

This is what I was talking about in my post.

If this is true, I blame Anselmi for this. 100%.


Oh Anselmi is a BIG reason why the first 5 years have been a mess.

He is a textbook case of absentee management.

[Suds]

You and I are talking about two different things. Mo could have had a job for life here. He screwed the pooch. No two ways about it.

Did Mo do some good things? Yes. Was he a devious guy who put his own self interest above the team sometimes? Yes.

Do you think will Anselmi and Winter are putting, or may someday put, their own self interest above that of the team?

Did we ever, or do we now, have the people or systems in place to manage those conflict issues?


OK, sorry bro. I must have misread the intention of your post.

It thought you were excusing all of Mo's bad decisions and putting that on the people who hired him.

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

I'll clap for Mo if they show him on the big tv. I wouldn't be opposed to him having with the club in a media role.

I don't think he wanted to suck. His eye for talent isn't too bad. He wanted to bring Ermenko to TFC, he's tearing it up in the SPL.

[BFin]

You guys think JFJ will come back to the next Leafs game?

[Carts]

You guys think JFJ will come back to the next Leafs game?

They're going to honour him as a 'Leaf Legend' during a TV timeout!

[Oldtimer]

It was a bad decision to hire him but then when in place, he did some dishonest and quite frankly unethical things. That is on him.

AND he didn't ask for help. His ego held him back from recommending a proper structure with the team where he could have had competent personnel under him that would have done a good job and made him look good. Instead, he played politics and protected his job as long as he could and filled support staff with lackeys.


^ this....

[TFCRegina]

He's probably in charge of MLS player contracts for Canada. That would just figure.

[s2cazz]

I pledge if he shows up and I see him I will whip out Russel the wonder muscle and piss all over him. I promise.

[DangerRed]

Anyone who would take decisions Mo made personally and launch a verbal assault at the guy would need to have their head checked. I'm all for passion, but that's just immature.

He did what he thought was right. Those decisions did not pan out so he lost his job. That's all there is to it. Happens all the time in sport. Heroes and villains; that's what makes it fun.

That's completely correct. He fucked over the club, but will I personally launch a verbal attack on the man if I see him in person? No, it's uncalled for. Dudes who think otherwise need remember there's a clear line between the rage you feel on this board sometimes and reality. If there isn't, maybe it's time for you to put the scarf down and check your head.

[s2cazz]

That's completely correct. He fucked over the club, but will I personally launch a verbal attack on the man if I see him in person? No, it's uncalled for. Dudes who think otherwise need remember there's a clear line between the rage you feel on this board sometimes and reality. If there isn't, maybe it's time for you to put the scarf down and check your head.
So urinating on the man isn't a viable option? I am not allowed to feel rage over this because it is only football?

So the countless $ I have spent on tickets, beers, tfc related merch, goltv, MLS Direct Kick and my RPB Membership doesn't mean anything?

Ps. who the fuck are you to tell me to put my scarf down. I take great offence to that statement.

[BFin]

They're going to honour him as a 'Leaf Legend' during a TV timeout!

Does he still live in the Beaches?

[Suds]

Does he still live in the Beaches?

I've personally checked all the massage parlors and have not seen him .. uh, never mind.

:leaving:

[ExiledRed]

So urinating on the man isn't a viable option? I am not allowed to feel rage over this because it is only football?

So the countless $ I have spent on tickets, beers, tfc related merch, goltv, MLS Direct Kick and my RPB Membership doesn't mean anything?

Ps. who the fuck are you to tell me to put my scarf down. I take great offence to that statement.


If I thought you had the spine to actually urinate on Mo Johnston, I'd be worried but you should know that:

Football and the money you choose to spend watching it provides no extra justification in law for physical assault or verbal harassment of an individual in a public space.

Its a bonehead move, kind of like throwing a flare at a goalkeeper cause he dissed the fans.

durrrr..........

[BFin]

I've personally checked all the massage parlors and have not seen him .. uh, never mind.

:leaving:

LOL I was speaking facetiously because I dislike unnecessary threads, but that is a bloody priceless response.

Cheers to you sir.

[[NBF]]

Mo Johnston....tsk tsk

He had a few good draft picks in 2007, 2008, maybe 2009, but not 2010, thats when he let Preki tryout the 50 card pick up game.

Mo Johnston turned TFC into a laughing stock of the league.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/jimmie_johnson_nextel_champ/3511136177_d486c936b5-1.jpg

[J .]

100% behind this post.

People in other threads are already stating that this season Winter should have the right to do worse than Mo did in season one. (6-17-7) despite the fact that Winter doesnt have close to the problems that Mo had to deal with other than a couple of good players who are unhappy about their contracts.

Id just like to reiterate, what Mo had working against him.

Slim pickings in the expansion draft (which it was widely reported that he 'owned' anyway.)

Players who had hissy fits about coming here, and in the case of Nate Jacqua, the option to refuse to come and demand a trade to LA.

Fieldturf, increasing difficulty with signing players and heightening injury risk.

Over fatigue due to fieldturf, during busy schedules.

90% key players on international callup at the same time.

devastating injuries like Ronnie O Brien's knee and Dichio's concussion.

No ability or will from FO to sign a DP.

overhyped canadian talent (the canadian shield), which Mo was forced to acquire, and turned out to be utter garbage.

The spectre of TFC'c sizeable Celtic fan contingent, turning the screw.

An FO, that set up the team purely to exist in the league, with a 'it would be great if we did win....but the real focus is bums in seats' mentality.

I'd like to point out too, that prior to the season opener in 2007, it was widely reported that Mo had done a stellar job and 'on paper' had assembled one of the strongest teams in the league.

Mo's biggest failure was finding width and goalscorers, The Barrett solution which the league forced on him, was the beginning of the end.

Agreed

[s2cazz]

If I thought you had the spine to actually urinate on Mo Johnston, I'd be worried but you should know that:

Football and the money you choose to spend watching it provides no extra justification in law for physical assault or verbal harassment of an individual in a public space.

Its a bonehead move, kind of like throwing a flare at a goalkeeper cause he dissed the fans.

durrrr..........

The original author I am responding to is referring to VERBALLY assaulting MOJO. Which IMO I have every right to do. As for my spine and urinating on him, I admit probably not but you never know what happens when I get a little "big mouth soup" in me.

There is no law against me telling that twat exactly how I feel about him. Its not illegal to be an asshole, or he'd already be in jail.

[Sullivan]

Does he still live in the Beaches?

Yes. One of my business partners lives across the street and down from him - sees him frequently.

In January I drove past his place, had to do a double take as I saw a "For Sale" sign; BUT, it was his next door neighbour's place that was for sale.

[Heart of Stone]

Mo lives near the sewage plant... often smells like feces...

[DangerRed]

So urinating on the man isn't a viable option? I am not allowed to feel rage over this because it is only football?

So the countless $ I have spent on tickets, beers, tfc related merch, goltv, MLS Direct Kick and my RPB Membership doesn't mean anything?

Ps. who the fuck are you to tell me to put my scarf down. I take great offence to that statement.

None of what you outline entitles you to threaten, never mind attempt, violence on someone else. With that said, you sound exactly like the kind of guy who would seriously contemplate urinating on someone else.

[Brooker]

None of what you outline entitles you to threaten, never mind attempt, violence on someone else. With that said, you sound exactly like the kind of guy who would seriously contemplate urinating on someone else.

Read the fine print in your GOLtv subscription.... there is a urination clause.

[Yohan]

speaking of celebrities, anyone else caught Klinsmann slumming with Anselmi?

[rocker]

speaking of celebrities, anyone else caught Klinsmann slumming with Anselmi?

where were they sitting? My dad is a big Klinsmann fan and would have gushed like a Justin Bieber fan if he'd seen Klinsy.

[Yohan]

where were they sitting? My dad is a big Klinsmann fan and would have gushed like a Justin Bieber fan is he'd seen Klinsy.
the VIP seats near the beer garden

[Juanito]

I'm neither pro or against the Mo bashing.

The only thing I can say is that it is up to the individual. If you feel that Mo deserved to be taken to task, that is definitely your choice, and I would probably chuckle at the sight because deep-down, I believe he deserves it.

I personally, would probably not say anything. But that is my choice. I'd probably just ignore him.

Let's move away from the "holier than thou" statements because these are the reasons why we have turned threads into shit-shows in the past and RPBs start getting mad at one another.

So .... s2cazz .... if you see Mo, give him the tongue-lashing .... I certainly wouldn't deter you .... HA HA HA!

[mclaren]

I disliked Mo and call for him to go after the 1st season. I was called out for that by a lot of the folks here and elsewhere but it was clear to me at the time we were on a road to nowhere.

However, despite my dislike for the guy and what he did for the club, I think it would be well out of order to "verbally tackle" him, since he was just doing his job - even it if was a very bad one. He did the job to the best of his ability, which unfortunately for us was not very good.

[Damien]

MO FUNKIN BLOW