PRE-GAME: Portland Timbers vs. Toronto FC

[Nuvinho]

Figured we'd have enough of the negativity of the first game and should discuss the home opener.

The only guy on Portland that scares me is Kenny Cooper, he always scores against TFC. Damn, why couldn't we have gotten him.

Don't know if JDG will be back or still a few weeks away. Hopefully Winter moves Cann back to the middle

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
=============Bouch==============
========DeRo======Peterson=======
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============

[Kc17]

Replace Peterson with Zavarise and I like that lineup.

[2mil4dero+santo]

would like to see that, but not counting on it...

[Yohan]

From watching Portland vs Colorado last sat, TFC can get the win, esp at home. Portland defence is just as bad as TFC's. They have Goldthwaite and Brunner at CB FFS.

Mind you, TFC will have hands full with Cooper and Perlaza running at the defence, but if TFC learned the lessons from vs Van game, we can get the win.

[werewolf]

Would rather see DeRo play behind Santos, and move the other CM back to DM and play the World Cup formation.

Cooper is a big striker, like Hassli. It will be interesting to see if the CBs and the backline as a whole get torn apart, or they learned from last week.

[TFCRegina]

Pull Peterson and put Zavarise. At least Luca had an assist last game on that Santos goal.

[denime]

Would rather see DeRo play behind Santos, and move the other CM back to DM and play the World Cup formation.

Cooper is a big striker, like Hassli. It will be interesting to see if the CBs and the backline as a whole get torn apart, or they learned from last week.

Something like this

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
========Bouch======Zavarise=======
=============DeRo==============
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============

[brad]

From watching Portland vs Colorado last sat, TFC can get the win, esp at home. Portland defence is just as bad as TFC's. They have Goldthwaite and Brunner at CB FFS.

Mind you, TFC will have hands full with Cooper and Perlaza running at the defence, but if TFC learned the lessons from vs Van game, we can get the win.

5-4 to TFC. That's my prediction. Perhaps that is the master plan - hockey like scores to attract the doubters:)

Is Boouchiba fit?

[DeRosario]

I don't think JDG will be fit for the game and Bouchiba might get a run out but not the start. Here is what I think Winter will do for this game.

As much as I think it would be a good idea to go back to 4-4-2 for the next few games I don't think Winter will do so. I think he's proud of his system and that it can still work. Having said that I think we will see a 4-3-3 again against Portland.

Taking into account the terrible loss last week, playing our home opener and the fact that I believe Portland will struggle this year we will win this game. Although Portland have a great player in Kenny Cooper they could be the only team in MLS that has even less depth than TFC.

Defense:

I'm thinking this time Attakora will move back to the center partnered with Yourassowsky. Omphroy may get the start in right back. However, I see Ty Harden and Cann being relegated to the bench, at least for this game. Gargan will be in the left back position.

Midfield:

The midfield was effective in attack for the first 15 minutes or so last week until the defensive duties broke down. Winter may very well start with Soolsma and Sturgis together with DeRo again. However, part of the problem against Vancouver was that the whole team was not tracking back to defend. If Winter is still pressing to make his system work we will see more of the entire team defending as a unit and not leaving gaping holes between midfield and the back four.

Front 3:

With Maicon's potential goal of the week I believe he is a lock to start as we don't have forwards even close to his quality at the moment. Martina was also pretty effective on the left and will likely play the same position. Peterson however needs to stay on the right as he is most effective in this position. Not sure if Winter's plan was to have him play centrally last game or if he drifted into that position but id did not work.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NbyEXQguavc/TYgReidPoRI/AAAAAAAABFc/UuF-zH_JT-I/s320/TFC+vs+Portland+Prediction-03262011.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Otsap_3EBBs/TYgRhm09UfI/AAAAAAAABFg/1ZQJ16LdV4A/s320/TFC+vs+Portland+Prediction-POR-03262011.jpg

[ArmenJBX]

^^
That was Yourassowsky

[2mil4dero+santo]

Dero, unfortunately I think you're right about the back line. It's the kind of thing winter would do. I'd like to see Omphroy - Nana - Cann the mann - Yourass but I don't think it will happen.

[Serb_Star]

How can most of you put Soolsma in the starting lineup? he should be in the stands after his performance against Vancouver.

I think we might make history if we lose this game, I doubt a team has ever lost to expansion teams twice in a row in any sport.

[ManUtd4ever]

Something like this

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
========Bouch======Zavarise=======
=============DeRo==============
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============

If JDG is still out, I like this starting lineup. I expect a much stronger performance resulting in a victory in our home opener. Otherwise, I'm staying far away from the post game thread...:D

[BeerBaron95]

If JDG is still out, I like this starting lineup. I expect a much stronger performance resulting in a victory in our home opener. Otherwise, I'm staying far away from the post game thread...:D

JDG is still out.. will be for at least the first 3, possibly 4 games.... straight from the horses mouth

[boban]

JDG is still out.. will be for at least the first 3, possibly 4 games.... straight from the horses mouth
TFC has a horse on the payroll?

[ExiledRed]

TFC has a horse on the payroll?

and several donkeys.

[Roogsy]

:lol:

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Hoping we see Cann and Attakora back at the back. I think TFC might be okay in this one. I'm DL'ing the Crapid-Timbers game right now, going to give it a look. I don't think they're going to put up the fight Vancouver did.

Only discouraging thing that comes to mind, is TFC couldn't live with Hassli, and they're facing another big striker in Cooper.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Something like this

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
========Bouch======Zavarise=======
=============DeRo==============
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============

this looks about right if Omphroy is fit.
Sadly that right side looks weak.
I guess Peterson will sub on for Soolsma.
Prob put Zavarise in Soolsmas position once DeGuzman's back (i say this because Zavarise seems to be a jack of all trades and did well on the wing in Carolina)

[denime]

Question is will Winter play 4-3-3 with "point to the back" 4-1-2-2-1

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
=============Bouch==============
========DeRo======Peterson=======
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============


or "point to the front" 4-2-1-2-1

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
========Bouch======Zavarise=======
=============DeRo==============
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============


I think as a home team "point to the back" 4-1-2-2-1 is better option,more offensive and pressure on their half will give some breathing room for our defenders.

[Bars92]

What about the fella we traded for Labrocca?

[Ossington Mental Youth]

hes back up, Santos is already showing his worth, i think Santos has scored more or equal in his time in the MLS than Gordon has in his career

[trane]

Something like this

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
========Bouch======Zavarise=======
=============DeRo==============
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============


This is the formation we should always play, 4-2-1-2-1. De Ro has to learn to be less selfish and more willing to dish the ball out but it could work.

[menefreghista]

What about the fella we traded for Labrocca?

Seriously. Is there any sort of media following TFC? Somebody (even the club) should be updating us on his status.

[Whoop]

Pull Peterson and put Zavarise. At least Luca had an assist last game on that Santos goal.

I agree with this. Get Peterson out of there. I liked what I saw out of Zavarise.

But it was Yourassowsky who got the assist on Santos's goal.

[maninb]

How can most of you put Soolsma in the starting lineup? he should be in the stands after his performance against Vancouver.

I think we might make history if we lose this game, I doubt a team has ever lost to expansion teams twice in a row in any sport.

Agreed....the ONLY reason Soolsma is there is because he's Dutch...he's shown NOTHING in previous games...he's slow and doesn't defend...surely we have someone better....

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Soolsma, from what ive seen is no more than a back up just like Peterson (although id be tempted to give him one more go on the wing), id rather have zavarise there too or better yet a natural winger but alas thats not possible with Bouchiba/DeGuzman being injured. Would you rather sacrefice another game with Sturgis playing DM?

[DangerRed]

This one is definitely winnable given how shit Portland's defence appears to be. Having said that, if Cann plays LB again, we're cooked and boos will ring out across BMO.

Agree with whoever said it up top, Zavarise should start over Peterson.

[DangerRed]

How can most of you put Soolsma in the starting lineup? he should be in the stands after his performance against Vancouver.


+1,000,000. STOOLsma.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

prob is who plays in DM then?

[mastermixer]

I wonder if TFC will get booed off the pitch on Saturday should they lose to Portland. Would it be deserved after two games?

btw... I'm predicting a win, just hypothetical that's all.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

I dunno, i really hope not.
Thats not deserved yet.

[Darlofletch]

booing after 2 games would be very very harsh. I'd expect all sorts of shitstorms here if we lose, but booing would be incredibly harsh.

[ManUtd4ever]

If TFC starts the season with 2 losses in a row to the new kids on the block, it's going to get ugly, whether it's deserved or not.

Historically, TFC's record at BMO Field is surprisingly stellar though. I would be very surprised if TFC didn't come away with a draw at the very least, which would be disappointing, but might stave off the wolves for the time being.

I predict a 2-1 victory.

[Darlofletch]

agree that soolsma should be dropped, let zavarise play, either a sa driect swap, or with zavarise in midfield and petersopn puished up to the wing. not ideal, but best we've got for now.

cann at cb, yourassowsky at lb should make us look better in defence, I'd be tempted to throw omphroy in at rb as well. he's better offensively than gargan, puts a good cross in, and it's not like gargan's a great defender anyway, so might as well go with the attacking full back.

I'll go with a 3-2 tfc win, cooper will cause a lot of problems, but their defence will be equally bad, so we'll get the win.

[RedsYNWA]

We will freeze the timbers out 3-0 TORONTO

[Pachuco]

I'm not sure why everyone is so big on throwing Omphroy into the fire already. Just because we signed the kid doesn't mean he's good enough to start. We constantly do this with players we haven't seen. We sign a new player, assume he's a starter, throw him in, he sucks, everyone asks to give him the boot.

I know we've seen him in preseason, but barely through some terrible streaming. I'd be very concerned if he's going to be asked to step in on Saturday already as a starter. I'd rather see him phased in, and only if he performs when he's given the chance.

Gargan atleast brings a year of playing with alot of the guys on the field. And he's had good games with TFC before. I know he wasn't very good on saturday, but shit, neither was Nana and we all know how bad Cann was. I just think Gargan's experience at BMO is a better option for saturday.

[Whoop]

I agree with Pachuco.

[DangerRed]

We will freeze the timbers out 3-0 TORONTO

Too much :stogey: dude... There's no way we keep a clean sheet with our defence as it is.

[brad]

I wonder if TFC will get booed off the pitch on Saturday should they lose to Portland. Would it be deserved after two games?

btw... I'm predicting a win, just hypothetical that's all.

I think it depends.

If we play well and lose a close game, things will probably be okay.

If we play like we did on Saturday, the team will probably get booed off the pitch.

Not deserved though.

[mastermixer]

I think it depends.

If we play well and lose a close game, things will probably be okay.

If we play like we did on Saturday, the team will probably get booed off the pitch.

Not deserved though.

This is the part that worries me.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

i only suggest omphroy cuz we dont know what how good he is yet.
Could try sturgis in that position too as i think he played there in Uni as well as at Seattle several times

[Razor]

Portland 3 - TFC 2

Shoddy defence screws us again.

[Technorgasm]

2-1 TFC
santos, Dero, problem solved.

Rapids beat TImbers 3-1. . . . video: http://www.mlssoccer.com/videos?catid=1822&id=12725

We conceed on a set piece (like we did vs VWC)

[West220Side]

Figured we'd have enough of the negativity of the first game and should discuss the home opener.

The only guy on Portland that scares me is Kenny Cooper, he always scores against TFC. Damn, why couldn't we have gotten him.

Don't know if JDG will be back or still a few weeks away. Hopefully Winter moves Cann back to the middle

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
=============Bouch==============
========DeRo======Peterson=======
Soolsma===================Martina
============Santos=============

===============Frei=============
Omphroy==Nana======Cann==Yourassky
=============Bouch==============
========DeRo======Zavarise=======
Peterson===================Martina
============Santos=============

Bench (5?) Kocic (incase of injury of course) Stinson, Gargan, Soolsma, Gordon.

[rocker]

coldest game ever at BMO. forecast says -1C for a high. get out your long johns!

[Heathen]

After 4 years of futility, the team and management should just be happy we turn up. We owe them absolutely nothing, so if someone wants to boo they're entitled to.

[jloome]

Can't see Zavarise being played primarily as a defender; I know he's supposed to be a two-way player but so far he looks much stronger going forward.

I'd start the kids at fullback. Not much to lose. That way we can use Yourrassowsky as the other wide two-way mid.

------------------Frei-------------------
Omphroy----Attakora---Cann----Morgan
---------------------------------------
-------Bouchiba---------Yourassowsky--
-----------------Dero-------------------
Martina-------------------------Zavarise
---------------Santos-----------------------

[ManUtd4ever]

I'm not sure why everyone is so big on throwing Omphroy into the fire already. Just because we signed the kid doesn't mean he's good enough to start. We constantly do this with players we haven't seen. We sign a new player, assume he's a starter, throw him in, he sucks, everyone asks to give him the boot.

I know we've seen him in preseason, but barely through some terrible streaming. I'd be very concerned if he's going to be asked to step in on Saturday already as a starter. I'd rather see him phased in, and only if he performs when he's given the chance.

Gargan atleast brings a year of playing with alot of the guys on the field. And he's had good games with TFC before. I know he wasn't very good on saturday, but shit, neither was Nana and we all know how bad Cann was. I just think Gargan's experience at BMO is a better option for saturday.

That's a logical assessment, and Gargan will likely be Winter's choice at RB anyway. If our backline is Gargan-Nana-Cann-Yourass, it should still be a dramatic improvement compared to that atrocity we witnessed against Vancouver.

Eventually, I hope Omphroy gets a chance though, because he's a highly touted prospect that has all the tools to develop into an ideal RB for the system that Winter wants to implement.

[Suds]

I wonder if TFC will get booed off the pitch on Saturday should they lose to Portland. Would it be deserved after two games?

btw... I'm predicting a win, just hypothetical that's all.


It think it depends on the performance overall.

It was not so much that we lost in Vancouver, it was how we lost that got to me. A number of players just had no passion on the pitch. They dropped their heads and were defeated before the game ended.

I want to see a marked improvement in the individual effort, and teams effort, for a full 90. Show me you want to win and I will not be as disappointed if we don't. Show me you have no desire to win? Then you're gonna hear it from me.

[Suds]

I'm not sure why everyone is so big on throwing Omphroy into the fire already. Just because we signed the kid doesn't mean he's good enough to start. We constantly do this with players we haven't seen. We sign a new player, assume he's a starter, throw him in, he sucks, everyone asks to give him the boot.

I know we've seen him in preseason, but barely through some terrible streaming. I'd be very concerned if he's going to be asked to step in on Saturday already as a starter. I'd rather see him phased in, and only if he performs when he's given the chance.

Gargan atleast brings a year of playing with alot of the guys on the field. And he's had good games with TFC before. I know he wasn't very good on saturday, but shit, neither was Nana and we all know how bad Cann was. I just think Gargan's experience at BMO is a better option for saturday.


+1 Let's not shell-shock the kid. He needs time to develop and get comfortable with the MLS. It's clear ti's a big jump from the NCAA to this league.

I'm not huge on Gargan, but I think he has much better games in him than we saw in Vancouver. It was a bad day at the office for our defense as a whole. We saw better out of Gargan last year and I expect him to bounce back this week with a better game.

[kaos197O]

Can't see Zavarise being played primarily as a defender; I know he's supposed to be a two-way player but so far he looks much stronger going forward.

I'd start the kids at fullback. Not much to lose. That way we can use Yourrassowsky as the other wide two-way mid.

------------------Frei-------------------
Omphroy----Attakora---Cann----Morgan
---------------------------------------
-------Bouchiba---------Yourassowsky--
-----------------Dero-------------------
Martina-------------------------Zavarise
---------------Santos-----------------------
I like this line up.
As for Zavarise playing forward you are right. He will surely put pressure on the opposing team, immediately, once possesion is lost, as a winger should do when playing 4-3-3, thus making the system work much better.

We'll see what Winters got in store but this is a solid lineup.

[billyfly]

I liked Soolsma. Not sure where people think he was bad.

[jloome]

I liked Soolsma. Not sure where people think he was bad.

I think he did OK. He was closed down quickly and I think people are assuming he's slow, but he's not; he's fast, he just doesn't take off on a sprint every time he touches the ball.

[billyfly]

He showed a high skill level. He was ineffective (most of the team was) but I did notice his ball handling and was impressed.

[scooterTFC]

I liked Soolsma. Not sure where people think he was bad.

He looked very slow. It didn't look like he had a enough speed to get down the wing and get a cross in. Maybe he hast some skills that will offset his pace... they weren't obvious after the first game. He' was beaten to balls repeatedly and at one point Rochat swept in and caught from behind with such ease that it made you wonder how slow Soolsma was actually moving.

He didn't make any glaring turnovers or mistakes that cost the team but he also didn't really contribute to the offence or and wasn't helping to defensively on Teibert.

He seemed like imported version of Labrocca and Cronin. They're great strength is they play their position and don't mess up... but at the same time they don't really make a difference to the outcome of the game.

[DangerRed]

I re-watched the game yesterday. Soolsma has a very rough first touch, fanned on the ball more than once and at least two of his passes were terribly weighted. He also had at least one attempt on goal in which he gently nudged the ball towards the keeper instead of shooting.

If you feel like that means that he "did OK," then he did OK. I think he did poorly. Up to you to decide if this was just one game where he was ineffective or whether he's a player of poor quality.

[Fort York Redcoat]

^Bad luck but I reserve judgement for more than one game.

[Whoop]

I thought he was okay for the first 20 minutes but his game went downhill from there.

I'll give him another chance.

I thought Yourassowsky was crap the first time I saw him and I thought he was pretty good when he came in.

[billyfly]

This is the difference between MLS and other leagues. Players have time to move in other leagues where as the MLS is ping pong and guys are on top of you right away.

Soolsma was fine in my books but he may not fit into the MLS style. He might have gotten worse as the half went on but there is a certain skill level that is evident.

[DangerRed]

This is the difference between MLS and other leagues. Players have time to move in other leagues where as the MLS is ping pong and guys are on top of you right away.

Soolsma was fine in my books but he may not fit into the MLS style. He might have gotten worse as the half went on but there is a certain skill level that is evident.

Right -- my comments on Soolsma and on any other player are made in reference to their performance in the MLS, not any other league in which TFC doesn't play. I don't really care that Soolsma may be amazing in ersedivisie. He's playing in the MLS, and he's certainly not been amazing here thus far.

With all that said, yes, it's just one game. I'm more than ready for a positive surprise. From any player.

[ManUtd4ever]

I thought he was okay for the first 20 minutes but his game went downhill from there.

I'll give him another chance.

I thought Yourassowsky was crap the first time I saw him and I thought he was pretty good when he came in.

Agreed. It all boils down to available options. Is Soolsma less of a liability than Peterson on the right flank? Is it better to try natural left wingers like Zavarise or Martina on the right side?

[maninb]

Can't see Zavarise being played primarily as a defender; I know he's supposed to be a two-way player but so far he looks much stronger going forward.

I'd start the kids at fullback. Not much to lose. That way we can use Yourrassowsky as the other wide two-way mid.

------------------Frei-------------------
Omphroy----Attakora---Cann----Morgan
---------------------------------------
-------Bouchiba---------Yourassowsky--
-----------------Dero-------------------
Martina-------------------------Zavarise
---------------Santos-----------------------

^^THIS...except I think gargan starts....

[Whoop]

Will Bouchiba be able to play on Saturday? Or is he still unavailable?

[Pachuco]

I re-watched the game yesterday. Soolsma has a very rough first touch, fanned on the ball more than once and at least two of his passes were terribly weighted. He also had at least one attempt on goal in which he gently nudged the ball towards the keeper instead of shooting.

If you feel like that means that he "did OK," then he did OK. I think he did poorly. Up to you to decide if this was just one game where he was ineffective or whether he's a player of poor quality.

I agree with your assessment. But what people aren't realizing is one very telling thing for me. I felt Winter pulled Soolsma pretty early, and his replacement really has no business playing in the MLS right now (Makubuja). So I think it's fair to say Winter thought the same of Soolsma as some of us did. Maybe it's a wake up call for him and he plays better next time, but based on the time he played in Vancouver I'm not sure how anyone can say he didn't have a poor start to his MLS career.

[flatpicker]

Considering the defence of both teams...

I predict a 6-5 win for Toronto :D

[DangerRed]

I agree with your assessment. But what people aren't realizing is one very telling thing for me. I felt Winter pulled Soolsma pretty early, and his replacement really has no business playing in the MLS right now (Makubuja). So I think it's fair to say Winter thought the same of Soolsma as some of us did. Maybe it's a wake up call for him and he plays better next time, but based on the time he played in Vancouver I'm not sure how anyone can say he didn't have a poor start to his MLS career.

Agree on all points. The subbing of an Academy kid for Soolsma was bizzarre. But then again this is a guy who played Cann at LB..

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Agreed. It all boils down to available options. Is Soolsma less of a liability than Peterson on the right flank? Is it better to try natural left wingers like Zavarise or Martina on the right side?

this is what ive been saying

[Ossington Mental Youth]

also didnt like Makabuya coming on, i understand the kids young and needs to learn to play but that was poor timing

[Ossington Mental Youth]

if we see guys playing way out of their positions later on in the season ill start to doubt/wonder but as of right now i suspect that hes doing so still to see peoples capabilities/cuz we are short players/or disciplinary (in Canns case)

[ManUtd4ever]

I'm giving Winter the benefit of the doubt for his lineup decisions, but the Cann issue is still bothering me because we haven't been given an explanation.

[ManUtd4ever]

The Fan590 is currently discussing the disappointing ticket sales for the season opener. Apparently there are as many as 8 tickets available together on Ticketmaster, which is unheard of in this city. According to Gareth Wheeler, at this point, the average attendance is projected to be 16,000-17,000 throughout the season.

The honeymoon period is officially over ladies and gentlemen, and the wake up call is loud and clear. Unfortunately, the on field product will likely lead to the situation getting worse before it gets better.

[Carts]

Considering the defence of both teams...

I predict a 6-5 win for Toronto :D

You took the thoughts right out of my head! :)

Two teams who can score (hopefully) but can't defend (that we know for sure!)...

High scoring, entertaining game...

Which is - exactly what Toronto needs based on the poor (by TFC standards) ticket sales...

Carts...

[DangerRed]

The Fan590 is currently discussing the disappointing ticket sales for the season opener. Apparently there are as many as 8 tickets available together on Ticketmaster, which is unheard of in this city. According to Gareth Wheeler, at this point, the average attendance is projected to be 16,000-17,000 throughout the season.

The honeymoon period is officially over ladies and gentlemen, and the wake up call is loud and clear. Unfortunately, the on field product will likely lead to the situation getting worse before it gets better.

Took a look for myself, and it's true:

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/905/10m/origin.media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-ca/dbimages/13424a.jpgToronto FC vs. Portland Timbers

BMO Field, Toronto, ON
Sat, Mar 26, 2011 02:00 PM

Section
104
Row
33
Seats
20 - 13
Description
Price Level 13


Type
Full Price Tickets

Price
CA $51.50 x 8
Price Details (javascript:void(0);)

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/905/10m/origin.media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-ca/img/sys/common_new/edp/icn_close.gif Price Details




Type
Full Price Tickets

Ticket Price
CA $43.00 x 8

Convenience Charge
CA $8.50 x 8




SUBTOTAL*
CA $412.00

[Whoop]

$50... wow.

[2mil4dero+santo]

$50... wow.

And they wonder why tickets aren't selling. I am one of the most die hard soccer fans, but I would not pay almost 2days work to take someone to see TFC play portland.
over $100 for two tickets, $20 for parking, $40 for food and drink you must be kidding. plus speeding ticket on way to game lol. and thats section 104...

[ManUtd4ever]

I'll be honest, I think my seats (and those in the supporters section) are still the best deal in town for a professional sporting event. However, the pricing throughout the rest of the stadium is excessive, especially considering the results on the pitch during the last 4 years.

If I wasn't already a STH and I was on the waiting list, I would probably pass on buying season's tickets at $50-$70 per game until the team was a legitimate contender.

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

I thought the team was at 18k seasons seats, so logically, won't they average 18k+?

[ManUtd4ever]

I thought the team was at 18k seasons seats, so logically, won't they average 18k+?

I think 18K was last season, and this year's renewal rate was around 85-90%...

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

They expanded the season ticket from 16k to 18k this off season, reportedly.

[Yohan]

I believe Portland game is 'premium' game, hence why it's more expensive

[2mil4dero+santo]

I believe Portland game is 'premium' game, hence why it's more expensive

Did they make it premium cuz it's the only game all season we have a chance of winning?

[McBrace]

How can this game be classified as a Premium?

I still don't understand the difference between premium and a non premium?

[menefreghista]

Come on guys, the home opener has always been a 'premium' game.

As well as a handful of other games during the season. This isn't new news.

That doesn't take away from the fact that the pricing is out of wack.

[McBrace]

What is the criteria for a premium game?

[menefreghista]

What is the criteria for a premium game?

Whatever the hell MLSE decides. Usually home opener, last game of the year, game on Canada Day, games v LA or NYRB, etc.

[habstfc]

The Fan590 is currently discussing the disappointing ticket sales for the season opener. Apparently there are as many as 8 tickets available together on Ticketmaster, which is unheard of in this city. According to Gareth Wheeler, at this point, the average attendance is projected to be 16,000-17,000 throughout the season.

That's not really what he said, he was refering to the fact that they could draw 16,000 minimally no matter how bad the team is. He was refering to the future more than the present. There are lots of tickets left but they are at the highest rows so it's not like there will be 3,000 empty seats, maybe a thousand or so.

[Suds]

How can this game be classified as a Premium?

I still don't understand the difference between premium and a non premium?

Someone asked Paul B that question during that online session TFC did. Basically the answer was, they (TFC staff) look at the schedule, teams being played, etc., and determine which will be Premium or not.

Basically games they feel tix will be in demand - home opener, closer, big name DP is in town, or date like a game during the Ex. If they feel demand is high it's a premium game.

On the plus side, if you can't make it you can sell your in-demand ticket the higher price ... assuming there are not a couple thousand now available on Ticketbastard :rolleyes:

[McBrace]

Are we the only team that has premium game pricing?

[McBrace]

Someone asked Paul B that question during that online session TFC did. Basically the answer was, they (TFC staff) look at the schedule, teams being played, etc., and determine which will be Premium or not.

Basically games they feel tix will be in demand - home opener, closer, big name DP is in town, or date like a game during the Ex. If they feel demand is high it's a premium game.

On the plus side, if you can't make it you can sell your in-demand ticket the higher price ... assuming there are not a couple thousand now available on Ticketbastard :rolleyes:


Interesting that they can identify premium games, but not premium staff..Hmmm :rolleyes:

[mastermixer]

I remember Paul B being asked about the premium games last week during that media day thing. He stumbled to get an answer out almost like he didnt know himself. He said they price the games based on demand so the games with less demand will be priced lower and be more accessable to people who can't afford the premium games. Typical MLSE shpeel.

[Suds]

Are we the only team that has premium game pricing?

No. It's common in the MLS. It's done in other sporting events and other leagues as well.

[McBrace]

Someone asked Paul B that question during that online session TFC did. Basically the answer was, they (TFC staff) look at the schedule, teams being played, etc., and determine which will be Premium or not.

Basically games they feel tix will be in demand - home opener, closer, big name DP is in town, or date like a game during the Ex. If they feel demand is high it's a premium game.

On the plus side, if you can't make it you can sell your in-demand ticket the higher price ... assuming there are not a couple thousand now available on Ticketbastard :rolleyes:


Interesting that they can identify premium games, but not premium staff..Hmmm

[menefreghista]

Are we the only team that has premium game pricing?

Not sure about MLS.

The Blue Jays use it.

[Auzzy]

Buy your tickets from a fellow supporter in the ticket trader thread, and at least save the Ticketba$tard charges. BTW, they will add further charges later in the sales process, beyond the $8.50 per ticket shown above. They used to even charge you for their "cost" of printing it on your own printer, not sure if that is still the case...

[kodiakTFC]

MY first home opener. Have always had tickets but this is the first year i'm not in Montreal. I was even suppose to work but i booked it off for this occasion.

[menefreghista]

Interesting that they can identify premium games, but not premium staff..Hmmm :rolleyes:

LOL. Anselmi and Beirne won't fire themselves.

[Pachuco]

That's not really what he said, he was refering to the fact that they could draw 16,000 minimally no matter how bad the team is. He was refering to the future more than the present. There are lots of tickets left but they are at the highest rows so it's not like there will be 3,000 empty seats, maybe a thousand or so.

If you had a sold out crowd, you would get 1000 empty seats. That's just the way it works. Things happen and people who bought tickets don't show up. Plus, scalpers are left with tickets in hand as well.

So if it's not a sold out crowd, it's not unlikely that you see 3000 empty seats in the stadium.

For example: The Seattle game at home (2nd game of the season) only had 18,000 fans there. As far as I know that was probably close to a sold out game. That's over 3000+ empty seats.

The home opener had a full crowd, but that's rare, something only accomplished by David Beckham and home openers. Heck, the Jays home openers get 50,000+ fans and the next day they'll get 24,000.

[Suds]

MY first home opener. Have always had tickets but this is the first year i'm not in Montreal. I was even suppose to work but i booked it off for this occasion.

Awesome. Setting aside the negatives around town these days, there's nothing like opening day! You'll love it!

Get yourself to supporters march to BMO. :scarf: :scarf:

http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=1252361#post1252361

[ManUtd4ever]

That's not really what he said, he was refering to the fact that they could draw 16,000 minimally no matter how bad the team is. He was refering to the future more than the present. There are lots of tickets left but they are at the highest rows so it's not like there will be 3,000 empty seats, maybe a thousand or so.

Yes, that's what I meant. The home opener will be close to capacity. At this point, (paid) attendance of 16,000 is guaranteed for future games, and anything above and beyond that figure will depend on public ticket sales from this point forward, which are currently stagnant compared to past years.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Heck, the Jays home openers get 50,000+ fans and the next day they'll get 24,000.

oh yeah i think i remember laughing cuz it dropped to something like 10k after home opener last year

[habstfc]

If you had a sold out crowd, you would get 1000 empty seats. That's just the way it works. Things happen and people who bought tickets don't show up. Plus, scalpers are left with tickets in hand as well.

So if it's not a sold out crowd, it's not unlikely that you see 3000 empty seats in the stadium.

For example: The Seattle game at home (2nd game of the season) only had 18,000 fans there. As far as I know that was probably close to a sold out game. That's over 3000+ empty seats.

The home opener had a full crowd, but that's rare, something only accomplished by David Beckham and home openers. Heck, the Jays home openers get 50,000+ fans and the next day they'll get 24,000.

I am refering more to unsold tickets as opposed to unused tickets.

[Pachuco]

I am refering more to unsold tickets as opposed to unused tickets.

Ah ok. It will be interesting to see attendance numbers this time around. I think it's very telling if you don't have a full crowd. Last year's home opener was record breaking.

[ensco]

Planning note - no Yonge Street subway on Saturday
http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2011/03/22/17715701.html

[Technorgasm]

bang on:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NbyEXQguavc/TYgReidPoRI/AAAAAAAABFc/UuF-zH_JT-I/s320/TFC+vs+Portland+Prediction-03262011.jpg

[DangerRed]

bang on:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NbyEXQguavc/TYgReidPoRI/AAAAAAAABFc/UuF-zH_JT-I/s320/TFC+vs+Portland+Prediction-03262011.jpg

Don't see Cann anyhere. And unscoring as he may be, part of me is excited to see Alan Gordon breaking noses out there on Saturday.

[BS1327]

Gordon worked out his Passport issues.

Think we'll see him up front, or as a sub later on?

[DangerRed]

Almost guaranteed a sub, unless Santos isn't fit.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

soolsma would never play DM

[jloome]

A season ticket this year in Dallas behind the goal is $288.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

also noone goes to those games tho, in fairness

[Roogsy]

bang on:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NbyEXQguavc/TYgReidPoRI/AAAAAAAABFc/UuF-zH_JT-I/s320/TFC+vs+Portland+Prediction-03262011.jpg

Sorry Giles, this group here is not good enough. It would leak goals like a hole in a roof.

[Cas87]

Sorry Giles, this group here is not good enough. It would leak goals like a hole in a roof.

But, we don't have a roof :rolleyes:

[pekduck]

But, we don't have a roof :rolleyes:

stop talking about the things we don't have, be it roof or defense :rolleyes:

as long as we score more than we allow, we'll be okay.. 6-5 Toronto, dero hattrick, santos 2 rockets, martina with his first MLS marker :D

[TFCRegina]

Santos II Rockets!

It's the New Brazilian Aerospace Program.

[pekduck]

Santos II Rockets!

It's the New Brazilian Aerospace Program.

we can call dibs on naming rights :D

[rocktml]

I don't care that BMO Field will not be sold out. I don't care how shite our team is. LOUD AND PROUD FOR HOME OPERNER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ossington Mental Youth]

I don't care that BMO Field will not be sold out. I don't care how shite our team is. LOUD AND PROUD FOR HOME OPERNER!!!!!!!!!!!!

atta boy, im with you on that

[Super]

I don't care that BMO Field will not be sold out. I don't care how shite our team is. LOUD AND PROUD FOR HOME OPERNER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Totally agree. The off-season is long and negative enough for me to not enjoy the heck out of the home opener.

[ag futbol]

I think we're full value for the win on this one. Facing a team with a backline as dysfunctional as ours at home for the first time this season. Conditions look ideal (other than the weather).

A few extra healthy players plus some attack minded play from yourassowski on the left should be enough to push us over the top. I hope we shake up the backline a bit as well.

[boozilla]

The right wing needs help. Peterson rarely takes defenders on and I haven't seen too many runs from Omph. I'd play 1 man down just to have Robben out there.

[backbeat]

My 11 - please..... :flare: :drum: :scarf:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Bouchiba - - - - - - - - Zavarise - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dero - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Gordon - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Martina - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

[billyfly]

The right wing needs help. Peterson rarely takes defenders on and I haven't seen too many runs from Omph. I'd play 1 man down just to have Robben out there.

This would make a good poll thread.

"I'd play 1 man down just to have (insert name) out there."

[TFCDP]

I am worried about Cooper.... that is all.

[TFCwestcan]

I agree with your assessment. But what people aren't realizing is one very telling thing for me. I felt Winter pulled Soolsma pretty early, and his replacement really has no business playing in the MLS right now (Makubuja). So I think it's fair to say Winter thought the same of Soolsma as some of us did. Maybe it's a wake up call for him and he plays better next time, but based on the time he played in Vancouver I'm not sure how anyone can say he didn't have a poor start to his MLS career.

I think there was an element of nerves with Soolsma's replacement, there will be more blood letting as all of these young kids get a run.

[TFCwestcan]

My 11 - please..... :flare: :drum: :scarf:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Bouchiba - - - - - - - - Zavarise - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dero - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Gordon - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Martina - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Yes this looks interesting, if Bouchiba is healthy? Although I'd reluctantly look to Gargan as a sub for Omphroy and Peterson for Gordon. Man this squad is thin.

[Kc17]

My 11 - please..... :flare: :drum: :scarf:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Bouchiba - - - - - - - - Zavarise - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dero - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Gordon - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Martina - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I'd like that lineup a lot, if Bouch and JDG aren't healthy, put in Sturgis, he wasn't too bad against Vancouver. The Vancouver game came down to a poor squad selection more than anything in my opinion, if Cann had been at CB instead of Harden, and Yourassowsky played the whole game, I highly doubt they would have put 4 past us.

[jloome]

My 11 - please..... :flare: :drum: :scarf:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Bouchiba - - - - - - - - Zavarise - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dero - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - Gordon - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Martina - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Can't play Gordon wide, he's awful with the ball at his feet.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

was gonna say, like Santos, Gordon seems to be to be a CF

[denime]

I would like to see more offensive line up with "point to the back" 4-1-2-2-1,pressure on opponents half.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bouchiba - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - DeRo - - - - - - - - ----------Zavarise - - - -- -

- - -Peterson - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Martina - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


Gordon can't play with Santos,both of them are position #9 CF,that's why I went with Peterson as right wing.

[Technorgasm]

CONSIRACY ABOUT our game vs VCWC (http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Adrian-cann.jpg/175px-Adrian-cann.jpg)

http://www.torontolife.com/daily/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/TFC-Logo.jpg

[billyfly]

Still waiting on MLSE and TFC FO to bring this girl in for the HT show.

ONE DAY!


4XsYuHbXZUk

[adam1001]

I like this lineup. Yourassowsky and Zavarise looked decent when they came on. I just hope Winter benches Harden and puts Cann back in the middle.
I would like to see more offensive line up with "point to the back" 4-1-2-2-1,pressure on opponents half.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bouchiba - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - DeRo - - - - - - - - ----------Zavarise - - - -- -

- - -Peterson - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Martina - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


Gordon can't play with Santos,both of them are position #9 CF,that's why I went with Peterson as right wing.

[maninb]

No break from the weatherman..... wind chill of -11 predicted...

[mastermixer]

No break from the weatherman..... wind chill of -11 predicted...

Game is at 2pm so the sun will be shining and keeping us warm.

[boban]

Game is at 2pm so the sun will be shining and keeping us warm.
That's right.. Time to break out the sun screen and get the t-shirts out. haha

[Technorgasm]

======== SUPER FREI ===========

Omphry === NANA-CANN === Gargan

== ELBY === DERO === Sturgis ==

= Soolsy == SANTOS == Javi-Mart =

Santos + Dero, 2-1 win.

[ensco]

It's fun to pick the lineups, but how can anyone have a big opinion on what our lineup should be? What does anyone really know about Martina, Soolsma, Yourassowsky, Omphroy, Burgos etc

[Technorgasm]

ready for TFC season, thanks to the Purolator man!

http://is200.imagesocket.com/thumbs/2011/03/24/tfckicksjpgzot6.JPG (http://www.imagesocket.com/view/2011/03/24/tfckicksjpgzot6.JPG)

and yes, line ups are fun as we dont know ANYTHIGN about the majority of our squad

[boban]

It's fun to pick the lineups, but how can anyone have a big opinion on what our lineup should be? What does anyone really know about Martina, Soolsma, Yourassowsky, Omphroy, Burgos etc
Picking the line is fine, its fun -But not critisize another poster.
Like you said we know jack of the team. Can't fathom how one can criticize another another.

[swss76]

you guys getting ready to get loud or what? can't wait until Saturday, going to be a blast no matter what the weather is like.

[Technorgasm]

HOME!

:scarf: or :scarf:

AWAY!

[rocker]

I bought some of these for Saturday.. gonna give it a try!

http://www.thermacare.com/product/back-hip.aspx

[Technorgasm]

^^ What a great Idea!!!

I got me one of these:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31UrDR9Hd-L._SL250_.jpg

for. . hot cocoa

[tfcmanu]

The Whole South end with one of these "EPIC"http://www.promo-wholesale.com/Upfiles/Prod_k/Safety-Orange-High-Visibility-Balaclava-Style-Knit-Hat_20090810933.jpg

[P-NUTZ]

TFC 3 - LOSERS 1


:scarf::flare::drum::flare::scarf:
:canada::scarf::flare::scarf::canada:
:drinking::drinking::drinking::drinking::drinking:

[P-NUTZ]

ready for TFC season, thanks to the Purolator man!

http://is200.imagesocket.com/thumbs/2011/03/24/tfckicksjpgzot6.JPG (http://www.imagesocket.com/view/2011/03/24/tfckicksjpgzot6.JPG)

and yes, line ups are fun as we dont know ANYTHIGN about the majority of our squad


nice kicks

[mowe]

I can't wait for this, it's going to be my first TFC game at BMO.

Anybody have any tips on what to expect? I'm going alone, got a seat in 116. How intoxicated should I be before I get there?

[Suds]

I can't wait for this, it's going to be my first TFC game at BMO.

Anybody have any tips on what to expect? I'm going alone, got a seat in 116. How intoxicated should I be before I get there?

Find me and buy me and my fellow RPB's a few beers each. We will tell you everything you'll need to know. :drinking:

:D

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

According to the good people at Bet 365, TFC is favourite to win this match:

1.73 - 3.50 - 4.50

[ManUtd4ever]

According to the good people at Bet 365, TFC is favourite to win this match:

1.73 - 3.50 - 4.50

Portland's paying 4.50? Hmmmmm...

I kid, I kid!

[Technorgasm]

I can't wait for this, it's going to be my first TFC game at BMO.

Anybody have any tips on what to expect? I'm going alone, got a seat in 116. How intoxicated should I be before I get there?

Dude. . . its going to blow you mind!!!
TV never does it justice. . jsut be at joes before hand. . :drinking:

[Yagbod]

Does this mean I can't enjoy my coffee?!?

From the TFC email today:

// ENJOY THE MATCH
The Toronto Police Service is dedicated to creating a safe environment for all match goers on Saturday. Please note that TPS will strictly enforce the Liquor Licence Act (http://click.mlsefanmail.com/?qs=b315037eaa0bb1bf93c2456de99d7aba258dfa71c18844 caa36ea290317df6b8). Everyone is encouraged to review the BMO Field Code of Conduct (http://click.mlsefanmail.com/?qs=b315037eaa0bb1bff2243f0c40ab17ba6a66e67adf95fd b99f3970283cf1cc73) and stray from bringing any of these prohibited items (http://click.mlsefanmail.com/?qs=b315037eaa0bb1bfec8ea51b488821898f0cd2ad6d3322 fcb2fb59716e0c7386).

Oh right! There is no Liquor in Coffee. Whew....

[colman1860]

Anybody know whether Stevanovic will be ready to play?

[denime]

Now with Stevanovic on board and Bouchiba injured and out for a while starting 11

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Sturgis - - - - - - - - ----------Zavarise - - - -- -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DeRo - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - -Martina - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Stevanovic ?- - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

I'd surprised if Winter puts Stevanovic is in the starting lineup. Has he even practised with the team? This isn't going to go over to big, but I wouldn't mind seeing Soolsma get another run out, he had two good penetrating runs which could have been more dangerous if he made better decisions in the box.

I'll be shocked if he does't put Attakora and Cann back in the centre of defence and start Yourassowsky at LB. It'll be interesting to see if he thinks Omphroy is ready.

[TFCwestcan]

Now with Stevanovic on board and Bouchiba injured and out for a while starting 11

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Sturgis - - - - - - - - ----------Zavarise - - - -- -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DeRo - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - -Martina - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Stevanovic ?- - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I like this line up, of course we have very little depth but I do like our forward line up. Umm, I think Winter will play Gargan before Omphroy. Then again he played Keith M last game...And I also am hoping that Sturgis gives us a better game. Hope Bouch is healthy?

[TFCRegina]

I can't wait for this, it's going to be my first TFC game at BMO.

Anybody have any tips on what to expect? I'm going alone, got a seat in 116. How intoxicated should I be before I get there?

Fairly, especially if it's gonna be chilly, and especially because the beers are fucking expensive.

[Lizzy]

Now with Stevanovic on board and Bouchiba injured and out for a while starting 11

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Sturgis - - - - - - - - ----------Zavarise - - - -- -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DeRo - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - -Martina - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Stevanovic ?- - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


How soon do we get Sturgis out of the starting 11?

[TFCwestcan]

How soon do we get Sturgis out of the starting 11?

Hard to base on one game but what did Cochrane & co see in this guy? Kind of a shame they handcuffed Winter with this trade, you feel that they would have rather had a decent draft pick. I am hoping that he will rebound along with Gargan (and the who back line.)

[ManUtd4ever]

Now with Stevanovic on board and Bouchiba injured and out for a while starting 11

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frei - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - -Attakora - - - - - - Cann - - - - - - - - - - -

Omphroy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Yourassowsky

- - - - - - - Sturgis - - - - - - - - ----------Zavarise - - - -- -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DeRo - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - -Martina - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Stevanovic ?- - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Santos - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


I like it. Once JDG and Bouchiba are healthy enough to play in the holding midfield roles, I think we might actually have a solid starting lineup and legitimate depth.

[backbeat]

I like it. Once JDG and Bouchiba are healthy enough to play in the holding midfield roles, I think we might actually have a solid starting lineup and legitimate depth.

what's the timeline on Bouchiba returning? i thought i heard JDG in april.

[ManUtd4ever]

JDG should be ready within 2 weeks, I'm not sure about Bouchiba...

[Ossington Mental Youth]

pretty sure Bouchiba was supposed to be close to fit around now, prob be onthe bench

[scut farkus]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gordon gets some time. Maybe as a sub.

[DangerRed]

Gordon is in for sure, maybe 15 min or more, unless he's not fit for some reason. Be surprised if Winter starts him, though.

[DangerRed]

From the Timbers' site:
The Cooper Effect: Striker has a habit of scoring against Toronto FC

To say that Kenny Cooper (http://www.portlandtimbers.com/player/kenny-cooper) has a special affinity for Toronto FC (http://www.torontofc.ca/) would be an understatement. Going back to Cooper’s first run through in MLS while with FC Dallas, he has scored at least one goal against the Reds in the past four straight games.
He first struck with a brace at Toronto in August of 2008 with goals in the 81st and 91st minute giving FC Dallas the 2-0 victory. Two months later, he struck again with two goals, the second of which was a stoppage time game tying penalty kick in a 2-2 draw.
2009 brought just as friendly results and equally clutch goals. Cooper evened the score for Dallas with a 91st minute strike in April for a 1-1 tie on the road at BMO Field. A week later, Cooper capped things off against the Reds with a 92nd minute game winner in a 3-2 clash.
Four games. Six goals. All late game result-changing strikes.
While some may point to the forward having already tallied one goal this season in the 3-1 loss to Colorado Rapids last week and Toronto’s defense giving up four in their 4-2 loss to Vancouver Whitecaps FC (http://www.whitecapsfc.com/) as signs towards another goal friendly equation, Cooper remains sanguine about any deeper meaning behind his previous feasting on Toronto defenses.
“I'm not sure it means anything,” he said.
This Toronto team that we'll face this weekend may be a lot different than the ones I've personally faced in the past,” he added.
Toronto is in the midst of a formational restructuring with head coach Aron Winter implementing his Dutch-influenced, possession heavy 4-3-3 lineup. Despite last week’s loss, they had 64% of the possession in the match. The end result may not have been what Winter wanted, but there were signs that his plan is taking shape.
For Cooper to break through this week, he’s going to have to crack the Reds’ backline which has been adjusting to the 4-3-3 flux as well. Toronto’s Adrian Cann (http://www.mlssoccer.com/player/adrian-cann) played much of last season at centerback but was moved out to a wingback position against Vancouver and was unable to track back effectively having trouble with the Whitecaps’ Davide Chiumiento in the first half.
If the Portland wingbacks and midfield can get service to Cooper—and fellow striker Jorge Perlaza (http://www.portlandtimbers.com/player/jorge-perlaza)—and the two of them can maintain possession up top in the cold weather, then the chance to add to Cooper’s unique streak remains a real possibility.
Cooper though also opens the door for others to open their accounts, “I'm hoping and hungry for us as a team to go out there and get a win," he said.
Hopefully there's a lot of goals in this team.”

[Brooker]

Fuck Cooper. Piece Of Shit.

[DangerRed]

Fuck Cooper. Piece Of Shit.

Ah, if only your profanity kept his shots out of our net...

[markus]

Luke Wileman on Twitter - "When asked by reporter 'how far away is de Guzman? Winter replied 'about 50 feet'":)..."...couple weeks away..."

[bgnewf]

TFC Home Opener Pre Game

http://viewfromthesouthstands.com/2011/03/tc-home-opener-pre-gam/

The pressure is on as TFC opens its fifth season at home to Kenny Cooper and the expansion Portland Timbers. Pre-game thoughts on the TFC Home Opener.

[TFCRegina]

Luke Wileman on Twitter - "When asked by reporter 'how far away is de Guzman? Winter replied 'about 50 feet'":)..."...couple weeks away..."

Hahahahahahaha

I don't even know what to say to that.

Very droll, very droll.

[Heart of Stone]

Today's game will prove how much we still need Nick Garcia...

[Pachuco]

2-2 tie. Cooper and Dero with a pair each.

[Mark TFC]

Home opener today! Come on you Reds!

[CBTFC]

Been waiting what feels like ages for this day. Full on sunshine and a high of -3 for today, should be great weather. Toque and sunglasses are a must!

Time to head over to a friend's to get the pre-game festivities underway...

TFC TFC TFC!!!! :)

[rocktml]

I dont care how cold it will be. I dont care that BMO Field will not be sold out. I dont care that our team is shite. I dont care how many times ML$E have screwed us over.

LOUD AND PROUD FOR HOME OPERNER!!!!!!!

[dupont]

Got my long johns on. Let's do this shit.


on my way to the stadddddiummmmm

[Mun]

Well said rocktml!

TFC!!!

[Waggy]

What time is it? GAME TIME! What time is it? GAME TIME! Who's house is this? OUR HOUSE! Who's house is this? OUR HOUSE!

WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!




Sorry, on the Ray Lewis tip for pregame. COME ON YOU REDS!

[morgank1986]

I find myself in Colorado today instead of at BMO. Anyone know where I can stream the game?

[Corpand]

Yup out in Steel City for the day, can't find a stream on atdhe or myp2p. Any ideas?

[pekduck]

in Kansas, and it's snowing here, come on you reds!

no link.. i bought MLS MatchDayLive and hope it'll work this time!

[dantdot]

Started the match thread: http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=27274