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BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 12:44 PM
I was checking out the MLS Offseason Transaction page (http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/transactions), and I thought that I'd try to compose a list of available free agents. Perhaps the members on RPB have a better idea of who's available and can help alter the list? Maybe some of you can shed some light on the quality, or lack thereof, of some of these players? The only two that seem to have made an impression on me were Sinisa Ubiparipovic who replaced Thierry Henry in our first game against RBNY last year, and Pablo Campos who missed a series of decent chances against us while with RSL. Is there anyone worthwhile that could help fill out TFCs roster at a decent wage? After watching the pre-season tilt against Chicago Saturday, TFC looks as though they still haven't addressed the need for help with ball movement in the centre of the pitch. He happened to disappear in some games, but TFC hasn't been the same since Amado Guevara left town.


2011 MLS Free Agents


Goalkeepers
- Dario Sala (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dario_Sala) (retired)
- Preston Burpo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Burpo)
- Brad Knighton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Knighton) (with Carolina RailHawks)
- Andrew Dykstra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Dykstra) (with Charleston Battery)
- Brian Edwards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Edwards_%28soccer%29) (with Degerfors IF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degerfors_IF))

Defenders
- Deris Umanzor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deris_Umanzor)
- Alex Zotinca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Zotinca)
- Carlos Borja (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Borja_%28American_soccer%29)
- Gino Padula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gino_Padula)
- Barry Rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Rice_%28soccer%29)
- Emannuel Osei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Osei)
- Tony Stahl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Stahl) (with Ft. Lauderdale Strikers)
- Christian Arrieta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristian_Arrieta) (with Ft. Lauderdale Strikers)
- Danny Earls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Earls) (with Colorado)
- Richard Mulrooney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mulrooney)
- Adrian Serioux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Serioux) (with Gol TV)
- Kwaku Nyamekye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwaku_Nyamekye)
- Yohance Marshall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yohance_Marshall)

Midfielders
- Marcelo Saragosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Saragosa)
- Rodolfo Espinoza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodolfo_Espinoza)
- Ciaran O'Brien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciaran_o%27brien) (with Atlanta Silverbacks)
- Peter Vagenas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Vagenas)
- Brandon Barklage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Barklage) (with DCU)
- Nico Colaluca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nico_Colaluca) (with Norrby IF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norrby_IF))
- Sinisa Ubiparipovic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sini%C5%A1a_Ubiparipovi%C4%87)
- Eduardo Coudet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Coudet) (with Ft. Lauderdale Strikers)
- JT Noone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT_Noone)
- Nick Zimmerman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Zimmerman) (with Carolina RailHawks)
- Anthony Obodai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Obodai)
- Jason Griffiths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Griffiths)
- Roberto Linck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Linck)
- Anthony Donatelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Donatelli) (with Rochester Rhinos)

Wingers
- Claudio Lopez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_L%C3%B3pez_%28footballer%29)
- Leandre Griffit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leandre_Griffit) (with Columbus Crew)
- Irving Garcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Garcia)
- Alex Nimo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Nimo)

Forwards
- Ross Schunk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Schunk)
- Jason Yeisley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Yeisley) (with Pittsburgh Riverhounds)
- Conor Chinn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_Chinn) (with RSL)
- Pablo Campos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Campos) (with Carolina RailHawks)
- Eduardo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Adelino_da_Silva)
- Cornell Glen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_Glen)
- Maykel Galindo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykel_Galindo) (with FC Dallas)
- Blaise Nkufo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Nkufo) (retired)
- Salou Ibrahim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salou_Ibrahim)

Yohan
03-07-2011, 12:52 PM
Except for Dario Sala, none on that list is worth more than depth players

Pachuco
03-07-2011, 01:05 PM
Nick Garcia is a free agent no? Probably would be our second best CB at this point. Yikes!

The only name that jumps out at me:

Arrieta - pretty good full back. Certainly could provide some much needed depth in that department at a reasonable price.

Suds
03-07-2011, 01:08 PM
Quite surprised Sala is not signed with a team. He's definitely still good enough to play in this league. I wonder if it's the kind of money he's looking that has teams not looking at him.

Detroit_TFC
03-07-2011, 01:09 PM
There was a waivers draft last week and not a single player was picked. Ubiparipovic got playing time last year with NYRB, and didn't seem too bad. Very surprised he didn't land somewhere.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:13 PM
Except for Dario Sala, none on that list is worth more than depth players
I think TFC lands in the category of teams needing depth, no? Part of building a team is finding serviceable players and diamonds in the rough. Chris Wondolowski was a depth player not too long ago.

Suds
03-07-2011, 01:15 PM
I think TFC lands in the category of teams needing depth, no? Part of building a team is finding serviceable players and diamonds in the rough. Chris Wondolowski was a depth player not too long ago.

A guy like Saragosa at the right price would be good depth. He's logged a lot of games in the MLS so he has that experience. That said, I have no idea how he would fair in the system Winter is trying to build.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:16 PM
Nick Garcia is a free agent no? Probably would be our second best CB at this point. Yikes!

The only name that jumps out at me:

Arrieta - pretty good full back. Certainly could provide some much needed depth in that department at a reasonable price.
I count myself in the ranks of those who never want to hear Nick Garcia's name mentioned ever again. I decided to leave FAs coming from TFC off the list for obvious reasons. Does Arrieta play on the left or right side?

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:20 PM
There was a waivers draft last week and not a single player was picked. Ubiparipovic got playing time last year with NYRB, and didn't seem too bad. Very surprised he didn't land somewhere.
I did finally find information that stated that no team participated in the waiver draft. There was mention of it taking place before hand, but mysteriously little to nothing after it supposedly took place. From what I saw, Ubiparipovic performed decently enough. I figured that management at RBNY didn't think that he could crack their midfield as it now stands. Perhaps he cost too much? I'll check last year's salary list.


UPDATE: I checked the MLSPU Salary Information (http://www.mlsplayers.org/salary_info.html?print=1) and it states that Ubiparipovic only made the league minimum $40K!

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:24 PM
A guy like Saragosa at the right price would be good depth. He's logged a lot of games in the MLS so he has that experience. That said, I have no idea how he would fair in the system Winter is trying to build.
I see your point. Winter has some people more familiar with the MLS side to help give him advice doesn't he? Someone please tell me that TFC at least has an MLS scouting staff.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:31 PM
Quite surprised Sala is not signed with a team. He's definitely still good enough to play in this league. I wonder if it's the kind of money he's looking that has teams not looking at him.
He made $178K last year. Didn't he have injury issues though?

Yohan
03-07-2011, 01:34 PM
He made $178K last year. Didn't he have injury issues though?
and he lost his starting spot to Kevin Hartmann (one of best MLS keepers ever)

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:39 PM
and he lost his starting spot to Kevin Hartmann (one of best MLS keepers ever)
The guy who replaced Hartman at KC, Jimmy Nielsen, isn't bad either. He played well against us last year.

Yohan
03-07-2011, 01:39 PM
I'd give Arrieta a look. Though he couldn't crack rather poor Philly defence so...? And he might cost an int spot.

Lucky Strike
03-07-2011, 01:45 PM
I seem to recall Zimmerman was highly touted in NY not too long ago. Also, depending on the money demanded, I'd look at Lopez as an impact substitution. Getting older and probably slowing down, but technical skills do not diminish like physical attributes.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 01:48 PM
And he might cost an int spot.
A consideration that must be made when looking forward to the summer transfer window. His wiki page states that he was born in the US, so I'd be surprised if he doesn't have US citizenship in that case. That new rule change over counting US players as domestics for TFC is a good one. I think that change has a term limit though.

Yohan
03-07-2011, 01:54 PM
I seem to recall Zimmerman was highly touted in NY not too long ago. Also, depending on the money demanded, I'd look at Lopez as an impact substitution. Getting older and probably slowing down, but technical skills do not diminish like physical attributes.
Lopez has done dick all in all his years in MLS.

Smokecell
03-07-2011, 01:54 PM
I think I'd take a look at Arrieta and possibly Knighton as our reserve keeper

scooterTFC
03-07-2011, 02:08 PM
I think I'd take a look at Arrieta and possibly Knighton as our reserve keeper
Agree on Arrieta. He might not be a great 1v1 defender but for an MLS defender he is very good on the ball and seemed to be a crafty dead ball guy when the PR Islanders beat us 2 years ago

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 02:10 PM
Added Danny Earls

EDIT: Perhaps I'm the only one who's going to do that???

oxygenatedbrain
03-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Arrieta is in camp with Dallas...incidentally, so is Kevin Gall. Remember?

oxygenatedbrain
03-07-2011, 02:24 PM
No love for Adie?

Pachuco
03-07-2011, 02:26 PM
I count myself in the ranks of those who never want to hear Nick Garcia's name mentioned ever again. I decided to leave FAs coming from TFC off the list for obvious reasons. Does Arrieta play on the left or right side?

Last time I saw him play he was playing left back, pretty sure he'll play either of them.

Yohan - its true that he didn't do to well with the Union. But there is something about his playing style that tells me he would fit in Winter's system, even as cheap depth. He's very comfortable on the ball and I think he's worth a look anyways.

Don't forget Maicon was waived from what was one of the worst teams in the league as well. He's been great for us and all signs point to Winter liking him as well.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 02:31 PM
Arrieta is in camp with Dallas
This is indeed the case:


Apparently, those discussions/negotiations came apart at some point. A week ago, the team released defender Christian Arrieta, who has since traveled to Arizona for a one-week trial with FC Dallas, and in mid-February it cut loose Eduardo Coudet.
http://www.socceramerica.com/article/41492/coach-nowak-union-moving-on-without-orozco-fiscal.html


I updated the list. Thanks for the heads up oxygenatedbrain.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 02:49 PM
Last time I saw him play he was playing left back, pretty sure he'll play either of them. TFC are pretty thin at the back as it stands. The prospect of beginning the season with Gargan as a starting fullback is less than inspiring. Have you seen anything from Demetrius Omphroy in the preseason? How are his chances of making the team and getting any playing time?

Detroit_TFC
03-07-2011, 03:09 PM
^ IMO he's worth signing but I wouldn't call him a starter yet. Well, for any other team than ours he wouldn't be a starter.

Pachuco
03-07-2011, 03:16 PM
TFC are pretty thin at the back as it stands. The prospect of beginning the season with Gargan as a starting fullback is less than inspiring. Have you seen anything from Demetrius Omphroy in the preseason? How are his chances of making the team and getting any playing time?

I'm hoping to see him play next game because what's I've seen so far is pretty limited so I don't want to jump to any conclusions just yet.

Yohan
03-07-2011, 03:21 PM
Last time I saw him play he was playing left back, pretty sure he'll play either of them.

Yohan - its true that he didn't do to well with the Union. But there is something about his playing style that tells me he would fit in Winter's system, even as cheap depth. He's very comfortable on the ball and I think he's worth a look anyways.
Maybe we should have signed Zamperini!


Don't forget Maicon was waived from what was one of the worst teams in the league as well. He's been great for us and all signs point to Winter liking him as well.I think I may be one of few that's not completely sold on Maicon Santos...

Ossington Mental Youth
03-07-2011, 03:24 PM
Maybe we should have signed Zamperini!

I think I may be one of few that's not sold on Maicon Santos...

what do you not like about him?

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 03:24 PM
^ IMO he's worth signing but I wouldn't call him a starter yet. Well, for any other team than ours he wouldn't be a starter.

According to the TFC website, at the back, this is who remains in camp:

2 - Demitrius Omphroy (D) // Draft Pick
3 - Nana Attakora (D) // Signed
5 - Ashtone Morgan (D) // Academy
8 - Dan Gargan (D) // Signed
20 - Ty Harden (D) // Signed
26 - Mikael Yourassowsky (D) // Trialist

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/03/toronto-fc-squad-list-carolina


I hope plans don't include praying that no one gets injured. Omphroy may get a baptism by fire if he's signed.

Yohan
03-07-2011, 03:26 PM
what do you not like about him?
Honestly, it's more of a gut feeling. Something about Santos that just don't have me sold on him as a starting striker. (not to mention his strike rate is horrible)

Right now I tag him more of a depth than starter. (i'm hoping I'm wrong!)

poppamidnight
03-07-2011, 03:39 PM
Honestly, it's more of a gut feeling. Something about Santos that just don't have me sold on him as a starting striker. (not to mention his strike rate is horrible)

Right now I tag him more of a depth than starter. (i'm hoping I'm wrong!)

hahahahah seriously - definition of lazyness - or just "misleading" other posters... Go out and get some facts

Here's their regular season strike rates for us:

Maicon as a .307 strike rate
Chad = .246 strike rate
Dichio = .237
Cunny = .188
Esky = .166
Samuel = .158
White = .121
Ibbie = .115
Gerba = .091
Vitti = .077
Lombardo = .000
Mista = .00

Pachuco
03-07-2011, 03:41 PM
Honestly, it's more of a gut feeling. Something about Santos that just don't have me sold on him as a starting striker. (not to mention his strike rate is horrible)

Right now I tag him more of a depth than starter. (i'm hoping I'm wrong!)

Whether you are sold on him or not though, you gotta admit, he was a pretty useful player for us last year when he came in. And Winter obviously seems to like the dude as well.

So I was just making the point that although Chivas had absolutely no use for the guy, we obviously were able to use him last year.

Anyways, the fact FC Dallas is taking a look at Arrieta says enough in my mind. Here is a team who was light years ahead of us last year taking a look at a guy an expansion team dumped. Dallas plays a game of ball possession as well which is why they are probably looking at him.

Personally though, I'm more then sold on Maicon. I think he's a starter in the MLS on the right team with the right coach. I believe TFC is that for him.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-07-2011, 03:48 PM
Personally though, I'm more then sold on Maicon. I think he's a starter in the MLS on the right team with the right coach. I believe TFC is that for him.

agreed

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 03:54 PM
I think I may be one of few that's not completely sold on Maicon Santos...
Partially sold on him is fine. :D To be fair, he missed a couple of matches due to injury and he was fighting for time with other forwards. I wasn't a big fan of Preki's rotation system/choices. Sometimes Maicon Santos would enter a game where there was no offensive impetus from TFC. Preki's system was brutal to watch, much less play for. I think Maicon Santos has been a pleasant surprise. I didn't know anything about him before he showed up and had no expectations. He works hard and he seems to genuinely want to do well. He's a decent size and age. He's good on the ball, he has a booming shot and shows good football sense. Maicon's good for at least one or two decent threats from the outside a game. He's one of the few guys on this team who can create a chance for himself all on his own. I think there is a tendency to pass blame onto him for lack of scoring when nobody's providing adequate service. You can't score if you don't get a chance to put the ball on the net. I haven't seen anything that would make me worry about Maicon's composure in front of the net if he has the ball.

Yohan
03-07-2011, 03:55 PM
Whether you are sold on him or not though, you gotta admit, he was a pretty useful player for us last year when he came in. And Winter obviously seems to like the dude as well.

So I was just making the point that although Chivas had absolutely no use for the guy, we obviously were able to use him last year.

Personally though, I'm more then sold on Maicon. I think he's a starter in the MLS on the right team with the right coach. I believe TFC is that for him.
Getting cut from CUSA... I dunno. That team needed offence just as much as TFC did. But I guess Maicon is Preki's boy so hence why he got cut?

Maicon Santos right now has 6 goals in 33 games in 2 MLS seasons. This is his make or break year, but I'll eat my hat if he scores 10 goals this season.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 04:11 PM
So I was just making the point that although Chivas had absolutely no use for the guy, we obviously were able to use him last year.

Anyways, the fact FC Dallas is taking a look at Arrieta says enough in my mind. Here is a team who was light years ahead of us last year taking a look at a guy an expansion team dumped. Dallas plays a game of ball possession as well which is why they are probably looking at him.
These are some good points. Not all players fit into a coach's plans or system. This is inevitably going to happen after managerial changes. Good scouting departments take advantage of other team's mistakes.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 04:24 PM
Getting cut from CUSA... I dunno. That team needed offence just as much as TFC did. But I guess Maicon is Preki's boy so hence why he got cut?Chivas was a bad team going through some turmoil not so different than TFC's experience over the last 5 years. Preki didn't exactly leave that team in pristine condition. Your final assumption might not be far off the mark. Chivas did some house cleaning last season didn't they?


Maicon Santos right now has 6 goals in 33 games in 2 MLS seasons. This is his make or break year, but I'll eat my hat if he scores 10 goals this season.With TFC's track record, that might be a safe bet. However, you can't always just count the raw numbers. An appearance could be 90 mins or less than 1 min. Your chances of scoring with 9 guys hunkered down behind the midfield line? Whatever happens, Maicon looks like he'll get a fair shake.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Added:

Goalkeeper Andrew Dykstra, Defenders Richard Mulrooney and Adrian Serioux, and midfielder Anthony Obodai

werewolf
03-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Serioux... :lol:

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 05:55 PM
Serioux... :lol:
I guess that answers that question.


No love for Adie?

werewolf
03-07-2011, 06:11 PM
Laughing at the club management, and the irony of how useful he could be under the current circumstances. Never thought he should have left in the first place.

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 08:53 PM
Laughing at the club management, and the irony of how useful he could be under the current circumstances. Never thought he should have left in the first place.
I guess when you look back on some of those decisions, if you didn't laugh, you'd have to cry. We traded a 1st round pick to get the guy and dumped him for a 3rd round pick. The problems at the back got worse and we are so thin there right now. Ironically, wasn't it Serioux who was accused of being a bad influence in the locker room? I just remember the guy going out on the pitch and playing hard even while hurt.

Razcle
03-07-2011, 10:12 PM
What about Danny Szetela? He had a good U20 world cup in Canada and was with Clown-bus and DCU the other year. How did this kid fall off the beaten track? I see he is a free agent, but maybe he is done at such a young age.

werewolf
03-07-2011, 10:22 PM
What about Danny Szetela? He had a good U20 world cup in Canada and was with Clown-bus and DCU the other year. How did this kid fall off the beaten track? I see he is a free agent, but maybe he is done at such a young age.

Signed by Racing Santander, spent a year and a half in Serie B with Brescia. Certainly he has something left to offer the MLS...

BayernTFC
03-07-2011, 10:22 PM
What about Danny Szetela?
His wiki page states that he hasn't played since the 2009 season. I don't think the following is likely to help in the cause for a comeback either:

Szetela, along with his two brothers, was arrested on February 11, 2011 after been involved in a bar room brawl in Boonton, New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boonton,_New_Jersey)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Szetela#cite_note-4).
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20110216/NEWS02/110216014/3-brothers-arrested-after-fight-at-N-J-bar

Yohan
03-07-2011, 11:03 PM
His wiki page states that he hasn't played since the 2009 season. I don't think the following is likely to help in the cause for a comeback either:

http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20110216/NEWS02/110216014/3-brothers-arrested-after-fight-at-N-J-bar
Szetela is mentally a mess

jloome
03-07-2011, 11:56 PM
Honestly, it's more of a gut feeling. Something about Santos that just don't have me sold on him as a starting striker. (not to mention his strike rate is horrible)

Right now I tag him more of a depth than starter. (i'm hoping I'm wrong!)

His work rate is shit on defensive pressure. He's not likely to ever be a double digit scorer in MLS but you never know I suppose.

Fushida
03-08-2011, 12:12 AM
hahahahah seriously - definition of lazyness - or just "misleading" other posters... Go out and get some facts

Here's their regular season strike rates for us:

Maicon as a .307 strike rate
Chad = .246 strike rate
Dichio = .237
Cunny = .188
Esky = .166
Samuel = .158
White = .121
Ibbie = .115
Gerba = .091
Vitti = .077
Lombardo = .000
Mista = .00

ahh, "strike rate"... just the stat we need in soccer. funny how you're making fun of yohan while having no clue of how to watch the game. consistently the shittiest poster on these forums.

on the topic of santos however, he has some good ideas on the pitch, players around him just weren't making the runs last season. based on his skillset it seemed like he'd be a good fit for the spearhead of a 4-3-3 as he seems pretty decent at holding and distributing the ball from the middle of the park, and his finishing wasn't bad either. based on the only 2 preseason games however it seems like he has some trouble dealing with heavy marking, which he may not have had as much of last year with a 2nd striker (who was typically dero or barrett iirc) drawing the defenders... so i dunno, i'll personally give it a few games and hope for the best, but definitely not sold on him in this new system yet.

Oldtimer
03-08-2011, 08:06 AM
Added:

Goalkeeper Andrew Dykstra, Defenders Richard Mulrooney and Adrian Serioux, and midfielder Anthony Obodai

Serioux loves Toronto and played out his heart for us. He wants to be here and can play well in a good system. Like Cann, he has a deadly throw in. Preki didn't rate him and Mo didn't want him, but I'm happy that Winter will give him a trial run and see if he fits in.

Mulrooney being with us is funny. He played what, 5 games for us way back when? I'm not sure that he wanted to be with TFC the first time he was here, but now he can't be picky.

menefreghista
03-08-2011, 08:36 AM
Serioux loves Toronto and played out his heart for us. He wants to be here and can play well in a good system. Like Cann, he has a deadly throw in. Preki didn't rate him and Mo didn't want him, but I'm happy that Winter will give him a trial run and see if he fits in.

Mulrooney being with us is funny. He played what, 5 games for us way back when? I'm not sure that he wanted to be with TFC the first time he was here, but now he can't be picky.

You are confused, these guys aren't trialling with TFC.

BayernTFC is making a list of MLS free agents.

Fort York Redcoat
03-08-2011, 08:40 AM
At this point I'd take Serioux back. Mulrooney did say he didn't want to be here. He can stay free.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-08-2011, 08:49 AM
still not convinced on Serioux, yes he gave it his all here and i appreciate that but realistically theres no where for him to play

ManUtd4ever
03-08-2011, 08:56 AM
still not convinced on Serioux, yes he gave it his all here and i appreciate that but realistically theres no where for him to play

He's not on trial with TFC, he's been added to the free agent list.

menefreghista
03-08-2011, 08:57 AM
still not convinced on Serioux, yes he gave it his all here and i appreciate that but realistically theres no where for him to play

Really? Nowhere?

Assuming Cann is done there is the centre back position. And Serioux is even a better passer than Cann.

Plus Serioux can play right back (and is better than Gargan) and he can also be used as a DM.

The only thing I don't like is that Serioux is injury prone. Also have no idea what his cost would be.

Oldtimer
03-08-2011, 09:11 AM
You are confused, these guys aren't trialling with TFC.

BayernTFC is making a list of MLS free agents.

sorry... my bad... wrong thread :lol:

menefreghista
03-08-2011, 09:16 AM
sorry... my bad... wrong thread :lol:

LOL. No worries.

That's how bad our player situation has become.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-08-2011, 09:21 AM
He's not on trial with TFC, he's been added to the free agent list.

i realize that, im just saying


Really? Nowhere?

Assuming Cann is done there is the centre back position. And Serioux is even a better passer than Cann.

Plus Serioux can play right back (and is better than Gargan) and he can also be used as a DM.

The only thing I don't like is that Serioux is injury prone. Also have no idea what his cost would be.

yeah, i was never convinced of him playing out of position in CB, actually feel like Cann did a better job back there (i cant think of any specific instances but I wasnt that upset when he left). Admittedly havent seen him in RB which he played in Canada and Dallas frequently but id rather have a straight up fullback, one thats young, not injury prone.

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 09:22 AM
You are confused, these guys aren't trialling with TFC.

BayernTFC is making a list of MLS free agents.
I didn't mean to create confusion or get anyone's hopes up. I was just trying to give members an indication of when the list had been altered. I did try to indicate players on trial using parenthesis, and I made a joke about Danny Earls actually getting added to something.

menefreghista
03-08-2011, 09:29 AM
yeah, i was never convinced of him playing out of position in CB, actually feel like Cann did a better job back there (i cant think of any specific instances but I wasnt that upset when he left). Admittedly havent seen him in RB which he played in Canada and Dallas frequently but id rather have a straight up fullback, one thats young, not injury prone.

Cann is a better defender, imo. And less prone to wild challenges than Serioux.

At the right price I think Serioux would be a good versatile player to have, if he's healthy.


I didn't mean to create confusion or get anyone's hopes up. I was just trying to give members an indication of when the list had been altered. I did try to indicate players on trial using parenthesis, and I made a joke about Danny Earls actually getting added to something.

I'm thankful you've made this list. Its interesting to see who is available.

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 09:32 AM
That's how bad our player situation has become.
TFC can't count on an injury not taking place. We're in a position where the talk can't just be about starting positions. It'll be interesting to see how they intend to fill out the squad with only a week and a half remaining.

menefreghista
03-08-2011, 09:36 AM
TFC can't count on an injury not taking place. We're in a position where the talk can't just be about starting positions. It'll be interesting to see how they intend to fill out the squad with only a week and a half remaining.

My guess is that most of the remaining players in camp will start the season with the team.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-08-2011, 09:39 AM
yeah i tend to agree with you

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 09:39 AM
but id rather have a straight up fullback, one thats young, not injury prone.
Isn't that Attakora's natural position. Did TFC bring anyone in to trial at centre back this off-season? Yourassowsky looked decent at CB against Chicago Saturday. The Cann mess aside, he's now listed as retired, it's a shame that a solution hasn't been found that would give TFC the option to use Attakora at RB.

Suds
03-08-2011, 09:45 AM
Cann is a better defender, imo. And less prone to wild challenges than Serioux.

At the right price I think Serioux would be a good versatile player to have, if he's healthy.



I think that's a fair statement.

The issue I see with both defenders is their ball distribution and how they would fit in a system that builds from the back. Neither look all that comfortable on the ball and that is exactly what is needed for the system Winter is trying to implement.

Both of these guys excel in a system where the can go in hard, win the ball, and hoof it out of their own end. Not exactly a strength for a team trying to play a possession game.

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 09:57 AM
Cann is a better defender, imo. And less prone to wild challenges than Serioux.

At the right price I think Serioux would be a good versatile player to have, if he's healthy.
Looks like management may be in the mode of minding the cap. I'm not sure how cheaply TFC could land Serioux even if health was guaranteed. They way things look now, He'd have a good opportunity at playing time. Perhaps Winter would rather give some Academy players that time?



I'm thankful you've made this list. Its interesting to see who is available.
You're welcome. I agree. I also find it interesting to read what others think of the players. There has been a fair bit of inter-MLS player movement this off-season involving most teams. Looks like Vancouver took advantage of their opportunity to select exposed players. TFC's interim management identified Nathan Sturgis. It doesn't appear that Winter is sold on him though.

ManUtd4ever
03-08-2011, 10:12 AM
Looks like management may be in the mode of minding the cap. I'm not sure how cheaply TFC could land Serioux even if health was guaranteed. They way things look now, He'd have a good opportunity at playing time. Perhaps Winter would rather give some Academy players that time?


You're welcome. I agree. I also find it interesting to read what others think of the players. There has been a fair bit of inter-MLS player movement this off-season involving most teams. Looks like Vancouver took advantage of their opportunity to select exposed players. TFC's interim management identified Nathan Sturgis. It doesn't appear that Winter is sold on him though.

Yeah, that's why I was opposed to Cochrane making that type of move in the off season. Based on his scouting reports though, Sturgis is known to have good control and distribution skills. I would think he should be able to fit in...

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 10:24 AM
Yeah, that's why I was opposed to Cochrane making that type of move in the off season. Based on his scouting reports though, Sturgis is known to have good control and distribution skills. I would think he should be able to fit in...
Perhaps the panick button was pressed over concerns of a need to back-up JDG due to surgery or even because of a perceived need to show fans that action/change is taking place? I think that argument was made much easier because many feel Cochrane overpaid. When you listen to management talk about an orientation towards youth, an early first round pick in camp to assess would look mighty useful about now. Perhaps a player like Sturgis may have been cheaper now too? Maybe we'll get to see Sturgis in the line-up on Wednesday? Good ball control and distribution coming from the midfield is a glaring need.

rocker
03-08-2011, 10:26 AM
I thought the draft was considered one of the worst collections of players in recent years? At least that's how I saw it positioned last December and January by commentators. I think part of it was that they didn't feel a college draft pick was going to net them anything useful, so they went with a proven commodity.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-08-2011, 10:45 AM
I thought the draft was considered one of the worst collections of players in recent years? At least that's how I saw it positioned last December and January by commentators. I think part of it was that they didn't feel a college draft pick was going to net them anything useful, so they went with a proven commodity.

that was my understanding too.
Dont forget we 'made out good' on one of the best drafts in years and look how those dudes turned out (re: white, cronin).

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 11:04 AM
I thought the draft was considered one of the worst collections of players in recent years? At least that's how I saw it positioned last December and January by commentators. I think part of it was that they didn't feel a college draft pick was going to net them anything useful, so they went with a proven commodity.
I understand the argument. However, it's the scouting staff and management who should be worrying about, and assessing, the talent levels available. If the pundits were any good, they'd have the jobs at the football clubs, no? Other teams seem to be taking advantage of the draft and the fact is that TFC sure collected a lot of late round picks and Supplemental Draft picks, so they must see some value in the process. Our last pick in the 3rd round, Joao Plata, is still in camp. I'm still not convinced that Sturgis couldn't have been landed for less. How about anyone similar? That trade smacks of the same type of thinking that gave away Marvell Wynne without the foresight to try him out at CB, despite a glaring need there, trying him out in every other position, and Colorado's successful experiment with him. How about the move to take Sam Cronin at #2, over Omar Gonzalez, only to later give Cronin away for nothing? Who's to say that Cronin wouldn't have still been available at #4? Sometimes you must take gambles. If you do your homework, the risk is reduced. I've seen a lot of mistakes and players being given up on too early that would indicate sloppiness and panic on behalf of TFC staff. One would hope the new staff doesn't carry on with that tradition. My comments aren't directed at Sturgis personally, I don't recall ever seeing him play.

menefreghista
03-08-2011, 11:10 AM
Had we kept our 1st rounder at least Winter and Mariner could have been involved in the decision of who to take. Instead they have been forced to take on a player that they appear to not be to interested in. Winter was handcuffed unnecessarily.

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 11:18 AM
that was my understanding too.
Dont forget we 'made out good' on one of the best drafts in years and look how those dudes turned out (re: white, cronin).

We got Stefan Frei at #13 in that draft. An absolute steal. Anyone care to complain about that guy? Miloš Kočić was selected #21 in that draft as well. Kočić has been impressive from what I've seen. See my post above for thoughts on selecting Cronin at #2, but San Jose seemed pleased to acquire him. Selecting White at #4 was a brutal mistake. It was probably done partly on the basis of his "Canadian" status, despite being Jamaican. His injury meant that White would likely have been available much later in the draft too. We'll see how he performs for Seatlle.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-08-2011, 11:41 AM
what im saying is that we were given high grades for who we grabbed.
Who worked out?
Frei did for sure, Cronin is ok, not amazing, not terrible, he can definitely help a team but noones bowling over other people to get at him, White has had nothing but shit years, He might be able to do something in Seattle but as of right now? No big deal.
None of these dudes were a certain thing coming from the NCAA. This was supposedly from a better draft year. its a gamble either way and cochrane felt he was getting a certain thing with Sturgis. I do agree that he should have left it to mariner and winter but even then they werent a certain thing and he was told to act as if he still had the position. We may not like the trade but he did what was right at the time.

rocker
03-08-2011, 12:01 PM
I understand the argument. However, it's the scouting staff and management who should be worrying about, and assessing, the talent levels available.

and maybe they assessed the talent level available and felt it wasn't worth it. We'll see. Dichio was sent out, along with Dasovic, to check out NCAA tourneys and scout those players.

Since the draft is a crapshoot (even in the first round), it's perfectly reasonable for Danny or Nick to say "look, I think a pick in that spot this year is less valuable than an average MLS player."

Again, from what I remember reading from the "experts" before the draft, it was a relatively weak draft.

Who knows, you could make that pick and it turns out to be Julius James Part II. The Whitecaps took this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Nanchoff

I have no idea if that guy will be better than Sturgis, although Sturgis was in MLS at a younger age.

The question is, do you take a chance with a crapshoot or do you get a proven MLS player for the pick?

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 12:22 PM
what im saying is that we were given high grades for who we grabbed.
Who worked out?
Frei did for sure, Cronin is ok, not amazing, not terrible, he can definitely help a team but noones bowling over other people to get at him, White has had nothing but shit years, He might be able to do something in Seattle but as of right now? No big deal.
None of these dudes were a certain thing coming from the NCAA. This was supposedly from a better draft year. its a gamble either way and cochrane felt he was getting a certain thing with Sturgis. I do agree that he should have left it to mariner and winter but even then they werent a certain thing and he was told to act as if he still had the position. We may not like the trade but he did what was right at the time.
I'm not in disagreement with most of what you are saying here. I'm less interested in pleasing sports writers and more interested in the proper building of a team and organization. Also, it would appear that we may just be arguing different things. Some people believe that the draft has little to no value. I think that in a capped league, the draft gives an opportunity to supply young talent at a less costly rate. Teams in MLS can't survive without a source for cheap players. TFC's academy hasn't been around long enough to fill that role all on its own. A team doesn't just consist of starters and current bench strength might become future starters. There are plenty of players currently in MLS who came through the draft. Sturgis is a former 1st rounder. Of course the draft is a gamble and risk is involved. There's risk in directly signing players too. I'm waiting to see a better decision pattern from TFC staff. I don't recall anyone expecting Cronin to be a star, just someone who was more polished than the others and potentially able to step in right away. I don't think we were in danger of seeing LA take him and he was likely to still be available for one of our later selections. Perhaps former management was fired for lacking the ability to see the value in players that teams like Colorado and San Jose seem to possess? I didn't agree with the selection of White and I wasn't impressed with his play while he was in Toronto. Just another egregious error. Maybe Chris Pontius would have made a better selection? I'm not even arguing that Cochrane shouldn't have been allowed to make a decision on a trade. The price he paid left Cochrane, and TFC, open to criticism and it may even turn out that TFC gave away another first rounder for some one who later was binned or received next to nothing in return. Looking at our line-up, it would be nice to see another defender in the mix. I'll look for Sturgis in the line-up on Wednesday. We definately need someone in the midfield who can move the ball forward at the moment. Here's hoping that Cochrane proves any of his critics wrong.

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 12:55 PM
it's perfectly reasonable for Danny or Nick to say "look, I think a pick in that spot this year is less valuable than an average MLS player."
Certainly plausible.



I have no idea if that guy will be better than Sturgis, although Sturgis was in MLS at a younger age.

The question is, do you take a chance with a crapshoot or do you get a proven MLS player for the pick?Assuming that TFC would have chosen Nanchoff, it's impossible for me to say as I haven't seen either play. While the draft certainly carries an element of risk, it doesn't have to be a total crapshoot if you do your homework and know what to expect. Each draft is capable of providing at least a serviceable MLS player on the cheap for a season or two. There is also an element of risk when an interim management team makes judgments about who new management will find useful. In the end, I have only postulated whether the move that occurred could have been done at a less costly price. In keeping in the spirit of this thread, perhaps Danny and company even have an idea for a FA invite at this point.

Yohan
03-08-2011, 02:25 PM
I think that's a fair statement.

The issue I see with both defenders is their ball distribution and how they would fit in a system that builds from the back. Neither look all that comfortable on the ball and that is exactly what is needed for the system Winter is trying to implement.

Both of these guys excel in a system where the can go in hard, win the ball, and hoof it out of their own end. Not exactly a strength for a team trying to play a possession game.
I dunno. I think Serioux's ok with ball. He used to pull some crazy stuff to evade pressure. Serioux started off as DM

BayernTFC
03-08-2011, 09:15 PM
Deleted: Khano Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khano_Smith) (just signed with the Carolina RailHawks)

BayernTFC
03-09-2011, 10:14 AM
Update: Sinisa Ubiparipovic is on trial with Sporting KC:


Ubiparipovic on trial at KC

In the wake of Jack Jewsbury’s trade to Portland, Sporting are taking a look at former Red Bulls midfielder Sinisa Ubiparipovic.
Ubiparipovic was available in the inaugural Re-Entry Draft and his MLS experience interested Kansas City, but Vermes said the team learned he was going to pursue options overseas and ruled against selecting him.
“He was leaving the league, so there was no sense in even trying to pick him up,” Vermes said. “Things didn’t work out, and we found out that he was interested in possibly moving to a different team. He called us up and we brought him in. He’s just training with us at the moment. We’re just assessing if he fits in to what we are looking for, but we’ll make that decision at the end of camp.”
http://www.sportingkc.com/news/2011/03/preseason-notes-sporting-kc-draws-rsl-2-2


EDIT: Apparently he scored for them in a pre-season tilt too.

PHOENIX -- Former Red Bulls midfielder Sinisa Ubiparipovic, who is on trial with Sporting Kansas City, scored in its 6-1 victory over the Arizona Sahuaros in a MLS Desert Cup match on Friday night.

Ubiparipovic, who was waived by the Red Bulls, scored in the 90th minute off an assist by Korede Aiyegbusi in the 90th minute.

Midfielder Irving Garcia, who was cut by the Red Bulls earlier this week, played for the Sahuaros, a National Premier Soccer League side.

Garcia, a former standout at nearby San Luis High School, played the entire 90 minutes as he will try to latch on with another MLS club.
http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/redbulls2.php?article_id=26643

BayernTFC
03-09-2011, 10:40 AM
Added:
Goalkeeper - Brian Edwards
Defenders - Kwaku Nyamekye and Yohance Marshall
Midfielders - Jason Griffiths, Roberto Linck and Anthony Donatelli
Forward - Maykel Gallindo (on trial with FCD)

BayernTFC
03-10-2011, 03:48 PM
Edited Status: Maykel Gallindo is no longer on trial with FCD


Maykel Galindo
His best showing in preseason was against the New York Red Bull reserves on Monday, with the former Chivas USA man making a last-ditch effort to impress. But the preseason form of Milton Rodriguez, Ruben Luna and now with the arrival of Colombian U-20 National Teamer Fabian Castillo -- well, the writing is on the wall. It took over a month for Galindo to get his legs under him, but once he did he was able to show glimpses of his former self. However, forwards are always judged by one major factor -- can they cause problems for the opponent? If you can answer that question with a yes (and you can afford the player), then the decision is a no-brainer. Unfortunately, while on trial at FC Dallas that was not the case.
http://www.fcdallas.com/news/2011/02/roster-watch-2011

reggie
03-10-2011, 04:50 PM
i would give him a shot,speedy winger,better then peterson.

Yohan
03-10-2011, 05:24 PM
i would give him a shot,speedy winger,better then peterson.
haven't quite got his groove back ever since coming back from a long term injury

BayernTFC
03-15-2011, 12:16 PM
Update: Christian Arrieta isn't on FCD's 30 man roster. It looks safe to say that his trial has ended.

http://www.fcdallas.com/players

werewolf
03-15-2011, 12:19 PM
Brian Edwards is in Sweden, with Degerfors in 2nd tier.

BayernTFC
03-15-2011, 12:27 PM
Brian Edwards is in Sweden, with Degerfors in 2nd tier.
I updated the list. Best of luck to Brian. Thanks for the heads-up werewolf. :thumbsup:

BayernTFC
03-15-2011, 06:44 PM
Edit: Apparently, Danny Earls is back training with Colorado




A split #Rapids (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rapids) team trained today; joining them was former defender Danny Earls. Full squad training on Tuesday at #DSGP (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23DSGP). about 24 hours ago (http://twitter.com/RapidsSoccer/status/47444543242645504) via web



http://twitter.com/rapidssoccer

werewolf
03-15-2011, 07:35 PM
Blaise Nkufo released by Seattle.

ag futbol
03-15-2011, 08:27 PM
Shocked that nobody wants to take a chance on Arrieta. By my estimation he's a decent MLS player at the very least.

As for Galindo, agreed he hasn't done much since his injury. But he does seem like the FW type that could fit well into a 4-3-3

BayernTFC
03-15-2011, 09:13 PM
Blaise Nkufo released by Seattle.
He's been added to the list now. There's already speculation that Toronto might be a destination for him:


The 35-year-old Nkufo has family in Vancouver, British Columbia, so it would make sense if he would like to join the expansion Whitecaps. Toronto FC is another possibility.

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?sid=444599&nid=418

werewolf
03-21-2011, 05:07 PM
Salou Ibrahim waived by NY.

Big striker that can't score.

BayernTFC
03-21-2011, 05:12 PM
Salou Ibrahim waived by NY.

Big striker that can't score.
Adjustment to the list has been made. Thanks for bringing it to my attention and for the comments on the player. :thumbsup:

BayernTFC
04-12-2011, 05:50 AM
UPDATE:

G Brad Knighton, M Nick Zimmerman, and F Pablo Campos are now with the Carolina RailHawks (NASL)

D Tony Stahl, D Christian Arrieta, and M Eduardo Coudet are now with the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers (NASL)

M Ciaran O'Brien is now with the Atlanta Silverbacks (NASL)

D Danny Earls is with the Colorado Rapids (MLS)

M Brandon Barklage is with DC United (MLS)

W Leandre Griffit is with the Columbus Crew (MLS)

F Conor Chinn is with Real Salt Lake (MLS)

G Brian Edwards is with Degefors IF (Superettan)

D Adrian Serioux is a colour commentator for Gol TV

F Blaise Nkufo is retired


UPDATE 2:

G Andrew Dykstra is with Charleston Battery (USL PRO)

M Anthony Donatelli is with Rochester Rhinos (USL PRO)

F Jason Yeisley is with Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL PRO)

F Maykel Galindo is with FC Dallas (MLS)

M Nico Colaluca is with Norrby IF (Division 1 Södra)

G Dario Sala is retired and now a player agent