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denime
02-24-2011, 06:23 AM
Mornin'


Four New Trialists In Orlando (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/02/four-new-trialists-orlando)


MLS Announces 2011 Playoffs Format (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/02/mls-announces-2011-playoffs-format)


TFC Trio To Face New Challenges (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/02/tfc-trio-face-new-challenges)


Aleman Helps Canada To U17 World Cup (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/02/aleman-helps-canada-u17-world-cup)


Canada earns 1st FIFA U-17 berth in 16 years (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2011/02/23/sp-canada-fifa-concacaf-berth.html)


Dasovic named TFC's North American scout (http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2011/02/23/dasovic_tfc/)


Dichio, Brennan named TFC Academy coaches (http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/article/943791--dichio-brennan-named-tfc-academy-coaches)




SUSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshinegirl/)

Wagner
02-24-2011, 06:42 AM
SSG - Can I please see your ID??

JuliquE
02-24-2011, 06:43 AM
I guess Nick will be working alongside Tim Regan or have I not got that right?

Brooker
02-24-2011, 07:19 AM
Mikael Yourassowsky? Amazing.

Technorgasm
02-24-2011, 07:30 AM
So does the format give us MORE or less chance at post season?

Eastend
02-24-2011, 07:32 AM
SSG - Can I please see your ID??

Yeah, if yesterdays is 19, then todays is 10 and if today's is 19, yesterday's is 30......atleast

Fort York Redcoat
02-24-2011, 07:43 AM
Do people care about this playoff format change? I can't stand the constant change in playoffs in ALL sports. Moneygrab. Wake me when playoffs are dead.

Two T&T players trialing? Sign em! We'll get more calls our way in CONCACAF CL!

Nice to see the U-17's proceed this far. Good Luck to them v Panama tomorrow.

Azerban
02-24-2011, 07:48 AM
Do people care about this playoff format change? I can't stand the constant change in playoffs in ALL sports. Moneygrab. Wake me when playoffs are dead.


throw it in the pot with pro/reg as 'fantastic sports ideas, terrible business ideas'

Oldtimer
02-24-2011, 07:49 AM
I feel much more comfortable with Jimmy B. working with the academy, than as an "assistant GM," getting coffee for Earl.

Fort York Redcoat
02-24-2011, 08:06 AM
I'm loving that Dichio/Brennan/Daso Accies signings.

mastermixer
02-24-2011, 08:40 AM
Mikael Yourassowsky? Amazing.

Yup... great name alright.

Darlofletch
02-24-2011, 08:55 AM
Thoughts on all the news. (http://www.cruelgeography.com/2011/02/new-news-good-bad-and-ugly.html)

like the coach signings, am unimpressed with triallists but i supose we should reserve judgement.

playoff format, I guess it gives us slightly more chance of making the playoffs, in a lose one away game and we're done kind of way. I'm hoping for TFC to rep the west v vancouver to rep the east. espn would love that.

prizby
02-24-2011, 09:02 AM
though we were going to have a more central american presence at camp this time around?

Fort York Redcoat
02-24-2011, 09:07 AM
^Who said? I'm surprised we went T&T. It seems to be the obvious choices for this club. First players that have the MO/UK connection and now the Dutch. Makes sense and I don't care where as long as it's successful.

Lucky Strike
02-24-2011, 09:18 AM
Thoughts on all the news. (http://www.cruelgeography.com/2011/02/new-news-good-bad-and-ugly.html)





Teams 7-10, irregardless of conference, will then have a 1 game playoff, 7 v10 and 8 v9 at the home of the higher seed to determine who makes the 7th and 8th spots.


ARGH!:)

But seriously, this is similar to what I'm thinking so far.

Wagner
02-24-2011, 09:24 AM
I feel much more comfortable with Jimmy B. working with the academy, than as an "assistant GM," getting coffee for Earl.

I agree.

I didn't like that he could be involved with signing players.
First Wave just changed their site so I can't confirm, but i'm pretty confident he's a first First Wave guy.

Alixir
02-24-2011, 09:25 AM
Sometimes I think the Toronto Sun selects the first girl that knocks on the window in the morning.
Glad to see Dichio and Brennan coaching in the acadamy.

TFCRegina
02-24-2011, 09:27 AM
Anyone else find it somewhat comical we have a trialist named Yourassowsky and a trialist named Gay? If we sign both, there's gonna be jokes...

[NBF]
02-24-2011, 10:01 AM
TFC REGINA, that reminds me of the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" episode where Larry was forced out of the mall due to a fire alarm and he met the police officer named Officer Kropke. He then tells the officer about the West Side Story song that says, "Hey Officer Kropke, Kropke You!":D

SSG: Little young and very cute, but the depressed look on her face makes me think I can maybe spare $30/month to sponsor her:facepalm: I'm bad, I know.

MLS Playoffs: It just means that at the very least we might qualify to get a wild card spot since the talent level per team has been lowered by allowing two teams to join the MLS, but I have my doubts we will be in the top four in our conference.

OLD NEWS: Philadelphia Union signed Carlos Ruiz former TFC player.

Bravo To New Additions To Staff: Very decent staff rearrangement. If anywhere we've succeeded in the offseason it has to be said we have a much better coaching staff.

Darlofletch
02-24-2011, 10:16 AM
ARGH!:)

But seriously, this is similar to what I'm thinking so far.

hmm, you're right, irregardless is clearly wrong isn't it. damn you north america! I hang my english head in shame.

Lucky Strike
02-24-2011, 10:56 AM
hmm, you're right, irregardless is clearly wrong isn't it. damn you north america! I hang my english head in shame.

To be clear, I didn't intend to insult you or anything, it just reminds me of that American Dad show where "irregardless" was one of those things that they made fun of (along with "all of the sudden"). Sometimes I assume everyone knows the same inside jokes I do.

Parkdale
02-24-2011, 11:11 AM
so does this mean Dichio won't be on the sidelines of TFC games anymore?

I think that's what it means.

scooter
02-24-2011, 11:11 AM
mornin d

C.Ronaldo
02-24-2011, 11:19 AM
To be clear, I didn't intend to insult you or anything, it just reminds me of that American Dad show where "irregardless" was one of those things that they made fun of (along with "all of the sudden"). Sometimes I assume everyone knows the same inside jokes I do.

point me to the libary to learn about the folage

gtaguy
02-24-2011, 11:25 AM
I feel much more comfortable with Jimmy B. working with the academy, than as an "assistant GM," getting coffee for Earl.

DITTO

polak9pete
02-24-2011, 11:57 AM
i dont know if i missed it or anythin but has it been mentioned what is happening with our draft picks this year..all i read is that omphroy and plata are in orlando but what happened to matt gold and junior burgos..plus the supp picks i know beattie left but what about j.c banks and rojo ? anybody know anything?

Roogsy
02-24-2011, 12:05 PM
I agree.

I didn't like that he could be involved with signing players.
First Wave just changed their site so I can't confirm, but i'm pretty confident he's a first First Wave guy.


Jimmy is a First Wave guy for sure and I am not all that thrilled that he will be able to steer our young prospects over to Maclean.

flatpicker
02-24-2011, 12:10 PM
When will we get news about Toronto signing a striker who's job it is to score lots of goals?

rocker
02-24-2011, 12:16 PM
When will we get news about Toronto signing a striker who's job it is to score lots of goals?

check back in the summer transfer window ;)

is there really any reliable strikers, of a high enough calibre to take a chance on, that are available right now?

flatpicker
02-24-2011, 12:19 PM
^ Stop dashing my hopes and dreams!

Ageroo
02-24-2011, 12:21 PM
Don't like this....sorry if posted...

Kick Off: Teibert fuels rivalry, Nkufo's future
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/kick-teibert-fuels-rivalry-nkufos-future




Teibert was once a member of the Toronto FC (http://www.torontofc.ca/) academy and left them to join Vancouver. Now he says: "I've been at TFC and Vancouver is definitely the best place to be in Canada … In all aspects.” (http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Teibert+stands+tall+Caps+white/4338085/story.html) Vancouver’s March 19 season opener against Toronto just got a lot more intense.

Alixir
02-24-2011, 12:32 PM
Don't like this....sorry if posted...

Kick Off: Teibert fuels rivalry, Nkufo's future
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/kick-teibert-fuels-rivalry-nkufos-future
He was in TFC's academy back in 2008. Back then our academy was barely off the ground. Him comparing his time with TFC academy to his time with Vancouver is apples and oranges. Our academy program is quickly becoming one of the best in North America and Toronto FC is also starting to put the pieces together to try and make this club into a force from the academy all the way up to the first team management.

Roogsy
02-24-2011, 12:34 PM
In that respect, Vancouver had a head start since they existed long before TFC and it is unfair to compare academies as Alixir rightly pointed out.

The true test will be in the long-term. TFC management has screwed the pooch for 5 years and wasted time in which it could have been making strides in all areas of the organization. Now that there has been a change in management, I am hoping we regain our footing and get back on track.

rocker
02-24-2011, 12:36 PM
although the academy was already producing decent talent as of 2010, as we saw in Lindsay and Morgan and Stinson.

p.s. fuck the shitecaps.. i can't wait to see them struggle in MLS and all their "best practices" fail once they're not the big fish in the little pond.

Stouffville_RPB
02-24-2011, 12:41 PM
i dont know if i missed it or anythin but has it been mentioned what is happening with our draft picks this year..all i read is that omphroy and plata are in orlando but what happened to matt gold and junior burgos..plus the supp picks i know beattie left but what about j.c banks and rojo ? anybody know anything?

I believe they are still here and are training with the academy.

Winter wanted to focus more on players that are closer to the first team in Orlando.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-24-2011, 12:46 PM
Jimmy is a First Wave guy for sure and I am not all that thrilled that he will be able to steer our young prospects over to Maclean.

jumping to conclusions here, cmon man, im sure he values his job at TFC more than that.

Roogsy
02-24-2011, 12:56 PM
It wouldn't risk his job so why wouldn't he direct players to his agent?

I am involved in sports management and I know for a fact that development level coaches "steering" players into agents is the norm, not the exception. Believe me, it's not jumping to conclusions.

backbeat
02-24-2011, 12:56 PM
check back in the summer transfer window ;)

is there really any reliable strikers, of a high enough calibre to take a chance on, that are available right now?

although Winter has maintained that we might have a DP in March....we'll see, here's hoping....

rocker
02-24-2011, 01:06 PM
although Winter has maintained that we might have a DP in March....we'll see, here's hoping....

well, i hope it's a high calibre proven player, cuz the guys available right now would be out of contract for a reason (not playing well)

oxygenatedbrain
02-24-2011, 01:42 PM
Hey, anyone "involved in sports management" will be interested in the divorce between Graham Smith's First Wave and McCabe/MacLean. Jimmy now beams from the home page of Santio.

http://santiosport.com/santio/home

denime
02-24-2011, 01:51 PM
It wouldn't risk his job so why wouldn't he direct players to his agent?

I am involved in sports management and I know for a fact that development level coaches "steering" players into agents is the norm, not the exception. Believe me, it's not jumping to conclusions.

I KNEW IT :D

it was you who suggested DeRO that signing check gesture and it was you all the time pushing DeRo to ask for more $$$.:poke:_:hide:

Roogsy
02-24-2011, 02:01 PM
Hey, anyone "involved in sports management" will be interested in the divorce between Graham Smith's First Wave and McCabe/MacLean. Jimmy now beams from the home page of Santio.

http://santiosport.com/santio/home

Some of the same players on the Santio website are on the First Wave website. And notice how similar they are. Maybe they're in the middle of or have recently split...but it doesn't change the fundamental point that coaches have an influence where young players sign. And being that people around here are leery of Maclean, whether it's called Santio or First Wave, chances are a significant number of Academy players will eventually find themselves on Macleans roster of clients.

http://www.firstwavesports.com/

Whoop
02-24-2011, 02:05 PM
It's kind of the same thing in hockey but the competition between agencies is a lot more fierce.

How many options are there for a Canadian kid, especially a high end kid? Do any agents in Europe have bird-dogs in North America?

Whoop
02-24-2011, 02:06 PM
So MacLean is Santio now.

Roogsy
02-24-2011, 02:11 PM
It's kind of the same thing in hockey but the competition between agencies is a lot more fierce.

How many options are there for a Canadian kid, especially a high end kid? Do any agents in Europe have bird-dogs in North America?

I don't think the Europeans agencies have much interest in North America so it basically leaves the American agencies. However, being that Maclean is based in Southern Ontario, it gives him a distinct advantage with TFC academy players.

Stouffville_RPB
02-24-2011, 02:26 PM
It wouldn't risk his job so why wouldn't he direct players to his agent?

I am involved in sports management and I know for a fact that development level coaches "steering" players into agents is the norm, not the exception. Believe me, it's not jumping to conclusions.

I'm not going to argue this but am going to offer my view.

No one can argue Jimmy's heart and commitment to TFC in all his time here. He would be the first to fight for badge. It would be wrong to steer people to the belief that Jimmy would do anything to intentionally hinder TFC's progress.

The job of any youth coach at a professional club is to develop players to the point where they are capable of becoming professionals. Realistically most players get agents at that time. If a future player trusts a former coach and former professional player to seek out their advice on the matter that is their own decision. I am quite certain in saying that Jimmy wouldn't be holding information centre's disguised as practice to rave about First Wave.

Any anger towards First Wave is in my opinion unwarranted. It should be directed at the person who continually went to them for players that weren't up to par. First Wave only did what any unemployed athlete would want their agents to do, get them a job.

They found a sucker and took advantage for the benefit of their clients.

Whoop
02-24-2011, 02:26 PM
^^
That's what I mean @ Roogsy.

SuperTCP
02-24-2011, 02:57 PM
so does this mean Dichio won't be on the sidelines of TFC games anymore?

I think that's what it means.

He was barely there last year. Preki did not want him on the sidelines.

ensco
02-24-2011, 03:40 PM
No one can argue Jimmy's heart and commitment to TFC in all his time here. He would be the first to fight for badge.

He was a gutsy player, but I'd go easy there. Nothing is that black or white.

Brennan became a paid spokesperson for Fieldturf, just as the negative reaction to the turf was really ramping up in 2007. He was the captain. Was he really representing "TFC" there?

Roogsy
02-24-2011, 08:57 PM
He was a gutsy player, but I'd go easy there. Nothing is that black or white.

Brennan became a paid spokesperson for Fieldturf, just as the negative reaction to the turf was really ramping up in 2007. He was the captain. Was he really representing "TFC" there?


Thank you.

I don't understand why people equate playing on the pitch with conduct off the pitch.

As for development level coaches...they all do the same thing, which is what Stouffville alluded to...but that is not to say once their job is done they don't try to "steer" players going pro.

devioustrevor
02-24-2011, 09:06 PM
Anyone else notice that if Canada wins tomorrow it will be guaranteed at least 2nd place in CONCACAF and that would be the best showing for Canada at the U-17 level ever (in Men's footy at least).

Men's U-20 tourney starts next month too.