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peterboroughtfcfan
11-22-2010, 04:54 PM
Not sure if those in the South-East saw what was going down, but fairly early on Jeffro pointed out to me that Cunny was gonna have to warm up right in front of us. Sure enough, about 15 mins into the game him and the rest of the subs came down and started stretching in front of 117-118.

You would figure this moron had to expect the reaction he was going to get, and admittedly we were giving it to him pretty hard, but his reaction was pretty pathetic for a professional.

Instead of continuing to warm up like the rest of his hard-working teammates, he thought it was the "Cunny Show" and turned around and started chirping people in 117.

Of course this only pissed us off even more and we started laying into him even harder. Personal favourites were "Hey Cunny, nice goal against Montreal", and "Keep talking you bench riding, b level fuck".

On a personal note, I don't think I've ever been more pleased than when he walked directly up to 118 and called me a "fag" (<-- his words, not mine). I walked down to the front of the section and called him on. I'm pretty sure he thought I was gonna go LA Riot Squad vs. Beckham on him.

Eventually the coach grabbed him and made him sit down while the rest of the subs continued stretching.

Anyways, I bring it up because that is part and parcel what has always been wrong with Cunny. He thinks he's some kind of big shot that is above being a professional. He's in the biggest game of his life and he chirps the fans as opposed to doing his job and paying attention to the game.

Good riddance. Enjoy playing in front of 8000 fans Cunny you waste of skin.

Add him to the list along with Freddy Llujnberg. The South-west corner eats weak minded fools alive.

tfcmanu
11-22-2010, 04:58 PM
^ I had seats in 120, I can see the whole thing happening and then clapping, Obviously I could'nt hear what was said However you confirmed it.

Red Rat
11-22-2010, 05:16 PM
Jeffro118 was telling about this as well, too funny and great job

__wowza
11-22-2010, 05:19 PM
s'why i fired back on bigsoccer (something i don't normally do, that place is a toilet). they said we were classless for the reception we'd given him, i responded with his "no one should want to play there" comment about TO.

the response i got was that my quote was out of context, and his comments were in regards to the pitch and mojo.

CommradePolski
11-22-2010, 05:35 PM
Hah I saw you walking down there yelling at him. Did you get escorted out? I didnt see it but some people said someone got taken out after also.

peterboroughtfcfan
11-22-2010, 05:45 PM
No that wasn't me. The Security guards in our section are pretty cool. The guy who got tossed out had just puked. I'm pretty sure he puked on the stage/confetti cannon actually. It was pretty funny.

CommradePolski
11-22-2010, 05:54 PM
Didnt realize there was a guy that puked. lol. At least cunningham got what was coming to him.

Parkdale
11-22-2010, 05:58 PM
and the sweetest part..... he went home empty handed :)

razor787
11-22-2010, 06:22 PM
I was had no idea who to cheer for last night. I wanted Dallas to win to see them party at Joes, but that would also mean that Cunningham would lift up the trophy in our house.

Would have been heartbreaking.

zeelaw
11-22-2010, 06:27 PM
Thank God in typical Cunningham Toronto fashion he scuffed the chance to change his career...
FUCKER!

mclaren
11-22-2010, 07:04 PM
I think this abuse of Cunningham is shocking. What the hell has the guy done to deserve all this? The only thing that might deserve this is if when he left the club he said he hated TFC and the fans. Nothing of the sort happened.

prizby
11-22-2010, 07:08 PM
he never scored goals...then he goes scores goals...this guy is a joke and deserves every bit of shallacking he gets...if he only had "tried"

Chevy
11-22-2010, 07:09 PM
s'why i fired back on bigsoccer (something i don't normally do, that place is a toilet). they said we were classless for the reception we'd given him, i responded with his "no one should want to play there" comment about TO.

the response i got was that my quote was out of context, and his comments were in regards to the pitch and mojo.

BS is like a car wreck - brutal but too hard to look away (i'm working on that last part).

Rather than writing about soccer (imagine!), Archer, Loney and Aaron Stollar all bashed the city and the supporters. Stollar in particular, who went completely off the rails with false info and racist commentary.

I find it entertaining that pretty much every blog on there now ends in "Why I hate Canada".

Chevy
11-22-2010, 07:12 PM
I think this abuse of Cunningham is shocking. What the hell has the guy done to deserve all this? The only thing that might deserve this is if when he left the club he said he hated TFC and the fans. Nothing of the sort happened.

It's what he didn't do - like tapping in a two-foot sitter that would have won a national championship. Forgive the supporters if they didn't break out the tribute banners.

jloome
11-22-2010, 07:29 PM
BS is like a car wreck - brutal but too hard to look away (i'm working on that last part).

Rather than writing about soccer (imagine!), Archer, Loney and Aaron Stollar all bashed the city and the supporters. Stollar in particular, who went completely off the rails with false info and racist commentary.

I find it entertaining that pretty much every blog on there now ends in "Why I hate Canada".

Another fine example of why I don't read them.

Jeffro
11-22-2010, 07:30 PM
I think this abuse of Cunningham is shocking. What the hell has the guy done to deserve all this? The only thing that might deserve this is if when he left the club he said he hated TFC and the fans. Nothing of the sort happened.


The man quit on our team, was lazy and arrogant, with a sense of entitlement.

Welcome to the world of football, you don't welcome back cunts like him with warm applause.

bgnewf
11-22-2010, 07:31 PM
BS is like a car wreck - brutal but too hard to look away (i'm working on that last part).

Rather than writing about soccer (imagine!), Archer, Loney and Aaron Stollar all bashed the city and the supporters. Stollar in particular, who went completely off the rails with false info and racist commentary.

I find it entertaining that pretty much every blog on there now ends in "Why I hate Canada".

And yet they are the "official fan forum" of Major League Soccer. They have a lot of paid writers who are borderline racist and when you click on the forum link on the TFC website what do you get??? Bill Fucking Archer...

What a disgrace that is.

zeelaw
11-22-2010, 07:41 PM
Remember that idiot scoring against Montreal, taking off his shirt running into the crowd only to have been called offside and still receive a yellow...

fucking idiot

Parkdale
11-22-2010, 08:07 PM
And yet they are the "official fan forum" of Major League Soccer. They have a lot of paid writers who are borderline racist and when you click on the forum link on the TFC website what do you get??? Bill Fucking Archer...

What a disgrace that is.

that was a very common theme last weekend, with every person from every team represented.

It's clear that BS is the most appropriate name possible.

Chevy
11-22-2010, 08:09 PM
^^ It's good to know that the other supporters in the league feel the same way. (Except Columbus, one would imagine).

ag futbol
11-22-2010, 09:12 PM
I think this abuse of Cunningham is shocking. What the hell has the guy done to deserve all this? The only thing that might deserve this is if when he left the club he said he hated TFC and the fans. Nothing of the sort happened.
Agreed it's pretty over the top. Guy didn't play well while he was here, certainly won't be the first or the last.

I have no problem with busting his balls, but a lot of the shit was just classless. You want to stick you're neck out that far, you should consider the consequences of not being an anonymous person in the crowd.

Globetrotter
11-22-2010, 09:53 PM
I was watching from 120 as well. The fans gave it, he gave it back. Call him classless? Look at what was being said to him. It goes both ways.

Funniest part is always when the fans say "you're not playing". He's the greatest scorer in MLS history and was going to get his shot on the field during the game. Every fan in the stadium would rather be running around on the field getting paid than being a schmuck sitting in the stands paying. Is it unfair for him to think "you're not playing" either?

Of course this is a typical situation between fans and players. In Toronto, Paris, or Calcutta. It's all the same. It's pretty messed up that people can say "this person has no class" while thinking their behavior is tolerable and acceptable. Just flat out ridiculous.

Roogsy
11-22-2010, 10:11 PM
Not sure if those in the South-East saw what was going down, but fairly early on Jeffro pointed out to me that Cunny was gonna have to warm up right in front of us. Sure enough, about 15 mins into the game him and the rest of the subs came down and started stretching in front of 117-118.

You would figure this moron had to expect the reaction he was going to get, and admittedly we were giving it to him pretty hard, but his reaction was pretty pathetic for a professional.

Instead of continuing to warm up like the rest of his hard-working teammates, he thought it was the "Cunny Show" and turned around and started chirping people in 117.

Of course this only pissed us off even more and we started laying into him even harder. Personal favourites were "Hey Cunny, nice goal against Montreal", and "Keep talking you bench riding, b level fuck".

On a personal note, I don't think I've ever been more pleased than when he walked directly up to 118 and called me a "fag" (<-- his words, not mine). I walked down to the front of the section and called him on. I'm pretty sure he thought I was gonna go LA Riot Squad vs. Beckham on him.

Eventually the coach grabbed him and made him sit down while the rest of the subs continued stretching.

Anyways, I bring it up because that is part and parcel what has always been wrong with Cunny. He thinks he's some kind of big shot that is above being a professional. He's in the biggest game of his life and he chirps the fans as opposed to doing his job and paying attention to the game.

Good riddance. Enjoy playing in front of 8000 fans Cunny you waste of skin.

Add him to the list along with Freddy Llujnberg. The South-west corner eats weak minded fools alive.



:lol:

:hurray:

Oh man...he never had a chance. I wonder how Becky-boy would react.

peterboroughtfcfan
11-22-2010, 10:15 PM
I was watching from 120 as well. The fans gave it, he gave it back. Call him classless? Look at what was being said to him. It goes both ways.

Funniest part is always when the fans say "you're not playing". He's the greatest scorer in MLS history and was going to get his shot on the field during the game. Every fan in the stadium would rather be running around on the field getting paid than being a schmuck sitting in the stands paying. Is it unfair for him to think "you're not playing" either?

Of course this is a typical situation between fans and players. In Toronto, Paris, or Calcutta. It's all the same. It's pretty messed up that people can say "this person has no class" while thinking their behavior is tolerable and acceptable. Just flat out ridiculous.


A couple points here Globetrotter.

1. When you are a professional athlete, taking fan abuse is common. It happens in all sports, NBA, NFL, etc. Most athletes learn to tolerate it and some even thrive on it. Very few make the mistake of getting into it and some even cross the line (see Rick Rypien vs. Minnesota Wild fan). I'll be the first to admit that we gave Cunningham a lot of abuse last night. However, he's getting paid to warm up and then get in their and score goals. He isn't getting paid to stop warming up and then pick people out of the crowd and fall them "fags".

2. Unlike Cunny, I'm a paying customer and I'm not a football player. If I was, I'd probably shut my mouth and just play the game. I'm in the stands because I don't dedicate every day of my life to football, I dedicate it to my chosen profession. Neither of us were playing last night when we got into that exchange. The only difference is that I'm not a footballer and he is. And he sure as shit wasn't doing anything to help himself or help his team by intereacting with TFC fans.

He doesn't lack class because of what he said to me. I've got thick skin, bring it on. He lacks class because of how he disrespected his teammates by his actions. That's exactly what he did when he was here too.

Roogsy
11-22-2010, 10:16 PM
It's what he didn't do - like tapping in a two-foot sitter that would have won a national championship. Forgive the supporters if they didn't break out the tribute banners.


Case in point: The reaction Robbo got on his return.

yellowfellow
11-22-2010, 11:11 PM
I was in the north end toward the end of the game. When Cunny missed the final shot, he got a lot of abuses as well. Haha.

Juanito
11-22-2010, 11:16 PM
I was in 116 when all the shit started. I took a few pictures of him heckling us .....

McBrace
11-22-2010, 11:21 PM
Did you like the part when he told us he would be back later with the Cup?

He never did come Back????? Hmmm.

Juanito
11-22-2010, 11:22 PM
HA HA HA! I heard that part! Yeah .... that's pretty much when I became a Colorado fan!!

I'll post the pictures soon .... I just can't find the frackin' camera!!

rocker
11-22-2010, 11:37 PM
i loved it when Cunny didn't score on that great chance he had. Sucker.

Dude's a flake.. the respected coach Jason Kreis said as much. Even Schellas Hyndman had a falling out with Cunny, and Hyndman seems like a guy with integrity.

MisterMacphisto
11-23-2010, 12:06 AM
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/funny-graphs-classy.jpg

mclaren
11-23-2010, 12:06 AM
It's what he didn't do - like tapping in a two-foot sitter that would have won a national championship. Forgive the supporters if they didn't break out the tribute banners.

Where did I say we should break out tribute banners? I just don't think its classy to shout abuse at a player who missed chances for us -do you think he did it on purpose? Messi fucks up now and then - don't think the Barca fans are calling for his head just yet.

mclaren
11-23-2010, 12:07 AM
The man quit on our team, was lazy and arrogant, with a sense of entitlement.

Welcome to the world of football, you don't welcome back cunts like him with warm applause.

Strawman arguments again - where did I say welcome him back with applause?

peterboroughtfcfan
11-23-2010, 12:29 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how people on this message board forget that we are a supporter's group. The guy was awful and disrespected our team when he was here and again when he left.

He couldn't leave well enough alone so we gave it to him last night. I'm a supporter and I'm not gonna let him walk into our house and disrespect us any further without saying my piece.

TFC07
11-23-2010, 12:41 AM
I think this abuse of Cunningham is shocking. What the hell has the guy done to deserve all this? The only thing that might deserve this is if when he left the club he said he hated TFC and the fans. Nothing of the sort happened.

Thank god I am not only person here who feels this way.

Big Bruva
11-23-2010, 12:59 AM
and the sweetest part..... he went home empty handed :)

Jeff was actually crying in the changing room after the match. Not a rumour, im being serious.

Huyton
11-23-2010, 01:03 AM
I like what Carver said when Cunningham left:
"He can go and not score someplace else".

twistedchinaman
11-23-2010, 01:14 AM
Jeff was actually crying in the changing room after the match. Not a rumour, im being serious.

Karma bites back -- plain and simple, unfortunately.

rocker
11-23-2010, 01:15 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how people on this message board forget that we are a supporter's group. The guy was awful and disrespected our team when he was here and again when he left.

He couldn't leave well enough alone so we gave it to him last night. I'm a supporter and I'm not gonna let him walk into our house and disrespect us any further without saying my piece.

Yup.. and look at Marvell.. hard working, honest dude.. wasn't the greatest player, but he loved T.O. and tried his best under difficult circumstances... And he gets a major ovation during the announcement of the lineup and cheers every time he touched the ball.

T.O. fans don't diss players heavily for no reason. Some returning former players get a little heat, like a quick "T.O. reject" chant. But NOTHING like what Cunny got.

thousands of people felt strongly enough to yell at the guy... that says a lot about what Cunny did (or didn't do) in toronto.

Roogsy
11-23-2010, 01:16 AM
Yup.. and look at Marvell.. hard working, honest dude.. wasn't the greatest player, but he loved T.O. and tried his best under difficult circumstances... And he gets a major ovation during the announcement of the lineup and cheers every time he touched the ball.

T.O. fans don't diss players heavily for no reason. Most returning former players get little heat beyond a quick "T.O. reject" chant.

I can't believe people just dismiss these kinds of reactions... 10000 people can't be wrong....


I don't often agree with you but...

:thumbsup:

twistedchinaman
11-23-2010, 01:26 AM
I like what Carver said when Cunningham left:
"He can go and not score someplace else".

Oh, so true...

Oldtimer
11-23-2010, 09:29 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Cunnytfc.jpg/200px-Cunnytfc.jpg




To top it all off, Cunningham is once again on the unprotected list.

Fort York Redcoat
11-23-2010, 09:42 AM
Any ex player can be food for fodder. The other night the home stadium chose to voice who's efforts they appreciated and whose they did not.

It's not classless when a player chirps back. It's human. It's unprofessional and a lack of focus but let's be honest it's like Christmas when as supporters we get a response.

Juanito
11-23-2010, 09:49 AM
^^

And it was like Christmas!

tfcleeds
11-23-2010, 09:52 AM
Where did I say we should break out tribute banners? I just don't think its classy to shout abuse at a player who missed chances for us -do you think he did it on purpose? Messi fucks up now and then - don't think the Barca fans are calling for his head just yet.

Never thought I'd ever see Cunningham and Messi mentioned in the same post. It wasn't just a couple of misses (and big ones at that) - Cunty's attitude just plain sucked the whole time he was here. He looked like he couldn't be arsed half the time, and would rather be elsewhere.

I think most of us appreciate the efforts of anyone who plays hard and wears the shirt with pride - Cunty didn't do that, and that's why so much vitriol is directed at him.

v00d00daddy
11-23-2010, 09:56 AM
Cunningham was shit for us but this notion of exacting revenge on him for "disrespecting" us is a joke.

I wish out team was good enough that we didn't have to care about him when he comes to BMO. The fact that we still talk about him is sad. To waste your time heckling him when our team is not even playing his even more sad.

I don't get why people are so offended by a shit player who is lazy. We've had (and still have) lots of shit players. None of whom have scored over 100 goals in this league.

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm with Globetrotter on this one. Don't care if I get flamed for this. But self righteoush fans who think they can talk all the smack they want while the player is supposed to sit there and ignore them piss me off. If you can dish it then learn how to take it. Sorry but calling Cunningham classless while at the same time admitting you were laying into him is ridicolous.

I get that people don't like Cunningham, nothing wrong with that. There's something wrong with the message in this thread though.

Roogsy
11-23-2010, 10:15 AM
I'm with Globetrotter on this one. Don't care if I get flamed for this. But self righteoush fans who think they can talk all the smack they want while the player is supposed to sit there and ignore them piss me off. If you can dish it then learn how to take it. Sorry but calling Cunningham classless while at the same time admitting you were laying into him is ridicolous.

I get that people don't like Cunningham, nothing wrong with that. There's something wrong with the message in this thread though.

Hmmm...I've got to agree with Pachuco on this one.

Listen, fans may have gotten to him and it may have thrown him off. Maybe he even deserved it. But prodding someone to the breaking point and then seeing them break is not an measure of "class" on either side.

When I ride a player at BMO it's because he is an opposing player against my team at that point in time. But that's just me. I don't particularly care if other people do it at other times, but I can't say I agree that what happened with Cunny is a measure of his class. How he played and behaved for TFC when he was here IS a measure of his class and that spoke for itself.

rocker
11-23-2010, 10:55 AM
Anyone calling anyone a "fag" is wrong. Sorry, I know lots of kids call other people "fags" these days, but a segment of our population finds that term hurtful. Who knows Cunningham's beliefs behind using that word (throwaway word, or something more), but that's just wrong. People need to get away from throwing around a word that classifies the sexual preference of other humans.

Those of you justifying Cunningham's word because fans were ragging on him.. wow....

Imagine if fans were complaining to Dichio's face about his play and Dichio turned around and called them "fags"?

Heathen
11-23-2010, 11:01 AM
Where did I say we should break out tribute banners? I just don't think its classy to shout abuse at a player who missed chances for us -do you think he did it on purpose? Messi fucks up now and then - don't think the Barca fans are calling for his head just yet.

Cunningham wasn't interested in playing here, maybe Carver was partly to blame but regardless I saw way too much standing around with hands on hips. Yeah players miss chances but Cunningham missed rather a lot of them and important ones too

peterboroughtfcfan
11-23-2010, 11:09 AM
I have no issue with open debate about the topic and god knows I could be wrong. What I have an issue with is when people want to chime in on the topic but don't actually read what's being said.

I never said he was classless for chirping me. He can say whatever he wants to me - that's not the issue. The "class" issue comes into effect when you let your personal issues like that effect your game and thereby effect your team.

He should have known better to engage in it with the SW Corner but he didn't. We weren't chirping him for no reason - we wanted to throw him off and clearly it worked. The Coach pulled him out of there and made him stop warming up again until the second half.

In summary and so everyone is clear on this - he's classless because he disrespected his teammates, not because he disrespected the SW corner.

Globetrotter
11-23-2010, 11:13 AM
Can some one let me know why we don't like Hartmann? I think we were on his case far more than Cunningham. Was it in good humor (we didn't do this for Pickens), or I imagine I'm missing out on some history we have with Hartmann??

peterboroughtfcfan
11-23-2010, 11:18 AM
Can some one let me know why we don't like Hartmann? I think we were on his case far more than Cunningham. Was it in good humor (we didn't do this for Pickens), or I imagine I'm missing out on some history we have with Hartmann??


You are spending an odd amount of time worrying about the feelings of Dallas players.

People were booing him because he went over and took a shot at an injured player. The goal scorer basically destroyed his thigh in the process of scoring that goal. I know Hartman thought he was time wasting, but if you look at the replay there's no way he didn't tear something.

Heathen
11-23-2010, 11:27 AM
Can some one let me know why we don't like Hartmann? I think we were on his case far more than Cunningham. Was it in good humor (we didn't do this for Pickens), or I imagine I'm missing out on some history we have with Hartmann??

I think its more good natured goalkeeper baiting with Hartmann, he was the first ever MLS keeper to play at BMO so we've always had a soft spot for him and up the level of abuse accordingly.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 11:29 AM
Where did I say we should break out tribute banners? I just don't think its classy to shout abuse at a player who missed chances for us -do you think he did it on purpose? Messi fucks up now and then - don't think the Barca fans are calling for his head just yet.

Did you just compare lazy fuck Cunningham to Leo Messi? You called MY point a strawman argument??

Right, Cunny is to TFC what Messi is to Barca. Get a grip.

tfcleeds
11-23-2010, 11:32 AM
I think its more good natured goalkeeper baiting with Hartmann, he was the first ever MLS keeper to play at BMO so we've always had a soft spot for him and up the level of abuse accordingly.

That's where I always thought it came from too, unless I'm failing to recall other incidents over the years.

markus
11-23-2010, 11:38 AM
I think this abuse of Cunningham is shocking. What the hell has the guy done to deserve all this? The only thing that might deserve this is if when he left the club he said he hated TFC and the fans. Nothing of the sort happened.

I totally agree...

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 11:58 AM
Anyone calling anyone a "fag" is wrong. Sorry, I know lots of kids call other people "fags" these days, but a segment of our population finds that term hurtful. Who knows Cunningham's beliefs behind using that word (throwaway word, or something more), but that's just wrong. People need to get away from throwing around a word that classifies the sexual preference of other humans.

Those of you justifying Cunningham's word because fans were ragging on him.. wow....

Imagine if fans were complaining to Dichio's face about his play and Dichio turned around and called them "fags"?

Considering the initial post talks about laying into him hard, and then laying into him even harder, I'm going to assume he didn't use very nice language either. And I'm going to assume they weren't "complaining about his play". In fact, I'm 100% sure I'm not wrong on that one.

So fuck this bullshit that no matter what someone says to you can't call someone a fag. Are you kidding me? Who gives a shit how politically incorrect the word is, it's freeking used all over the place as an insult and it's probably the first thing that came to mind for him. Insult me, my family or whatever and I would do the same. As an example, the word cunt which alot of people on here associate Cunningham with is worst and more hurtfull then the word fag. But that's just my personal opinion.

I was recently watching highlights of an NHL hockey game where a fan was giving it to a hockey player as he was going to the change room. Who knows what the heck he was saying, but something set the player off. He tried to jump in the stands and took a shot at him. Don't even think he hit him. And the guy is fucking sewing the hockey player now (last I heard). Are you kidding me? These people are humans for fucks sakes. You want to dish it, then learn how to take it and stop complaining.

As for Peterborough guy. The fact you associated Cunningham with having no class makes me think you are offended by what he called "you". Call him a narcistic individual player who doesn't give a shit about his team. But when you use the word classless I don't believe its because he wasn't paying attention to the game.

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 12:04 PM
One more thing I'll say on this. Went to watch the Raptors last time Vince Carter was in town. Got seats right behind Carter on a bit of a diagonal. Me and my buddy were laying into him hard all game. I detest Vince Carter as a person which is why I do it. At one point, he had had enough, he turned around and yelled back at us. Everyone around us thought it was funny. I thought it was funny that I got his attention. Sure as hell didn't think he was classless though for sitting on the bench and worrying about me as opposed to the game.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:10 PM
So Pachuco, Homophobia is acceptable, is racism acceptable too, if it's the "first thing that comes to someones mind"?

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:18 PM
Our entire goal is to get him chirping us back. The man is in a cup final and isn't professional enough to ignore the taunts. We lay into a lot of players the same way every home game, VERY few get into it with us, let alone spend a solid 20 minutes shouting at fans until his coach had to bring him back to the bench.

Jeff Cunningham could not say ANYTHING to me that would hurt my feelings or get me mad. If he's such a great player (scored over 100 goals when this league was absolute garbage), he should have used our hate to fuel his fire, gone out there and scored a goal to shut me the fuck up. That's what pros do, they thrive on that shit. I'm some fucking nobody in the stands that paid to see the game, why on earth does Jeff Cunningham care what I think?

tfcleeds
11-23-2010, 12:21 PM
Surely, "cunt" is a more acceptable insult than a slur against homosexuals. Hey, the "c-word" may not be particularly nice, but I don't see how it's worse.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:23 PM
Remember Cornell Glen, getting torn into by NEE last year? Used that fuel, got subbed on and almost immediately scored the tying goal that effectively ended our season. THAT is what professionals do.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:23 PM
Surely, "cunt" is a more acceptable insult than a slur against homosexuals. Hey, the "c-word" may not be particularly nice, but I don't see how it's worse.


Without question.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:25 PM
Maybe we should have welcomed him back like this?
YlPJAmIv7Ig

Whoop
11-23-2010, 12:31 PM
I have no issue with fans giving it to players and even players giving it back to fans.

I think throwing term class and classless is always going to get someone's back up.

It cuts both ways.

Even if Cunningham hadn't said anything and scored the game winning goal I still wouldn't call him classy.

And when I'm giving it to a player from the stands I'm not acting with class at that moment, nor do I want to at that moment.

Class is a subjective term.

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 12:33 PM
So Pachuco, Homophobia is acceptable, is racism acceptable too, if it's the "first thing that comes to someones mind"?

Oh dear. Yeah, let's turn this into that. Are you saying that anybody who uses that word is a homophobe?

Whoop
11-23-2010, 12:36 PM
Maybe we should have welcomed him back like this?
YlPJAmIv7Ig

I thought Barca supporters had more class.


LOL

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:44 PM
Oh dear. Yeah, let's turn this into that. Are you saying that anybody who uses that word is a homophobe?

I'm not turning it into anything, don't use discriminatory terms if you don't want to be called out on them.

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 12:55 PM
I'm not turning it into anything, don't use discriminatory terms if you don't want to be called out on them.

Whatever. I'm of the opinion that the word has lost it's literal meaning through it's common use. And so, when someone throws it out, they aren't necessarily "discriminating" against another person. It's very different then looking at an african american and calling them the N word. Which is a racist thing to do. Now, if you tell me someone went to the gay pride parade and used that word towards people on floats then that's a different story. Then obviously the intent to discrimate was there.

I'm not saying it's right to the use the word. It isn't right to use the word cunt either. Or many other words available to you in a heated argument. What I'm saying is it's ridicolous to nit pick at an insult that was probably nothing more then an insult and impulsive reaction. Literal meanings of words are changed all the time, like when two african americans use the N word between themselves. Pretty sure they aren't using that word in a discrimating fashion.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 12:56 PM
I have no issue with fans giving it to players and even players giving it back to fans.

I think throwing term class and classless is always going to get someone's back up.

It cuts both ways.

Even if Cunningham hadn't said anything and scored the game winning goal I still wouldn't call him classy.

And when I'm giving it to a player from the stands I'm not acting with class at that moment, nor do I want to at that moment.

Class is a subjective term.


Lets be clear here, nobody said heckling a player is classy. That's not the point, but everyone keeps ignoring any actual points, and this is going in circles.

Sad state of affairs on this board, we can't even heckle one of our most hated former players now? We better start rethinking some of our songs.... we don't want to go hurting anybodys feelings.

Roogsy
11-23-2010, 12:57 PM
Ok boys let's not get into semantics. That argument has been going on for a long time outside in the real world and we are not settling it here. Suffice to say, both are vulgar words and are used extensively. I would however, be remiss if I did not remind everyone that "fag" is not an acceptable word on this board, just FYI.

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 12:58 PM
Lets be clear here, nobody said heckling a player is classy. That's not the point, but everyone keeps ignoring any actual points, and this is going in circles.

Sad state of affairs on this board, we can't even heckle one of our most hated former players now? We better start rethinking some of our songs.... we don't want to go hurting anybodys feelings.

Dude, I'm all for heckling other players. I do it myself. But I don't come on this board whining and bitching when I actually manage to get a player's attention.

Whoop
11-23-2010, 12:59 PM
Lets be clear here, nobody said heckling a player is classy. That's not the point, but everyone keeps ignoring any actual points, and this is going in circles.

Sad state of affairs on this board, we can't even heckle one of our most hated former players now? We better start rethinking some of our songs.... we don't want to go hurting anybodys feelings.

I have no issue with heckling former players.

Chevy
11-23-2010, 12:59 PM
Lets be clear here, nobody said heckling a player is classy. That's not the point, but everyone keeps ignoring any actual points, and this is going in circles.

Sad state of affairs on this board, we can't even heckle one of our most hated former players now? We better start rethinking some of our songs.... we don't want to go hurting anybodys feelings.


"Can you hear Columbus sing!?!"

"No, I cannot and that is somewhat unfortunate!!!"


I think this one works better...:D

Whoop
11-23-2010, 01:01 PM
Didn't Garber say that there was no more swearing allowed in MLS stadiums anymore? LOL

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 01:01 PM
Whatever. I'm of the opinion that the word has lost it's literal meaning through it's common use. And so, when someone throws it out, they aren't necessarily "discriminating" against another person. It's very different then looking at an african american and calling them the N word. Which is a racist thing to do. Now, if you tell me someone went to the gay pride parade and used that word towards people on floats then that's a different story. Then obviously the intent to discrimate was there.

I'm not saying it's right to the use the word. It isn't right to use the word cunt either. Or many other words available to you in a heated argument. What I'm saying is it's ridicolous to nit pick at an insult that was probably nothing more then an insult and impulsive reaction. Literal meanings of words are changed all the time, like when two african americans use the N word between themselves. Pretty sure they aren't using that word in a discrimating fashion.

Well, Cunty said "I've had more women than you'll ever have, Faggot" which clearly implies the intent of his choice of words.

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Using a slur as an insult (thus implying negativity) is inherently discriminatory, and if you go around talking like that, that's what a good majority of people think about you. Other slurs used to be acceptable and common as well.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 01:04 PM
"Can you hear Columbus sing!?!"

"No, I cannot and that is somewhat unfortunate!!!"


I think this one works better...:D

hahaha

OOOOOHHHH the Red Bulls are, not that bad, but we don't like them because they're our opponent!!

Chevy
11-23-2010, 01:05 PM
"Who ate all the granola!!!??!"

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 01:06 PM
Dude, I'm all for heckling other players. I do it myself. But I don't come on this board whining and bitching when I actually manage to get a player's attention.


Peterborough was not whining or bitching, he just wanted to share our success in getting Cunningham rattled, that's all, people jumped all over him because they didn't like his use of the word "classless".

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 01:07 PM
Well, Cunty said "I've had more women than you'll ever have, Faggot" which clearly implies the intent of his choice of words.

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Using a slur as an insult (thus implying negativity) is inherently discriminatory, and if you go around talking like that, that's what a good majority of people think about you. Other slurs used to be acceptable and common as well.

Well now that's not very classy. But that's also not what the first post said, at all. Completely different context here.

Anyways, you think it's wrong to use that insult and it's ok to use the word cunt or any other word that isn't discriminatory. I happen to think they are all wrong and therefore it doesn't need a special callout. But unfortunately they get used in arguments. So when someone bitches about the use of that word while defending the use of others I get annoyed. You insulted him, he insulted you, why can't it be left at that?

Pachuco
11-23-2010, 01:09 PM
Peterborough was not whining or bitching, he just wanted to share our success in getting Cunningham rattled, that's all, people jumped all over him because they didn't like his use of the word "classless".

It's all about the way it came out. If you wrote the first post, it may have been a completely different reaction. I do think it's hilarious that you guys got under his skin.

tfcleeds
11-23-2010, 01:13 PM
Ok boys let's not get into semantics. That argument has been going on for a long time outside in the real world and we are not settling it here. Suffice to say, both are vulgar words and are used extensively. I would however, be remiss if I did not remind everyone that "fag" is not an acceptable word on this board, just FYI.

But I was calling so-and-so a cigarette....honest! ;)

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 01:16 PM
Well now that's not very classy. But that's also not what the first post said, at all. Completely different context here.

Anyways, you think it's wrong to use that insult and it's ok to use the word cunt or any other word that isn't discriminatory. I happen to think they are all wrong and therefore it doesn't need a special callout. But unfortunately they get used in arguments. So when someone bitches about the use of that word while defending the use of others I get annoyed. You insulted him, he insulted you, why can't it be left at that?

The word cunt is extremely offensive to a lot of people, and I'm not defending it. Usually I have some good clever things to say, when I don't, words like cunt come out, but never anything discriminatory, though I do wish I always had something more clever to say, but sometimes an ugly curse word is the best I've got after a few beers, lol.

TheKing7
11-23-2010, 02:01 PM
I'm far from a classless fan but Jeff Cunningham is a cunt.

peterboroughtfcfan
11-23-2010, 02:09 PM
It's all about the way it came out. If you wrote the first post, it may have been a completely different reaction. I do think it's hilarious that you guys got under his skin.


Fair enough, but that was my point in my previous post. If you follow what I've said throughout that should be blatantly clear to you. I can't control how 30 people have interpreted what I said and took it in a different direction.

This thread has always been about just telling the hilariousness of the story. I really could care less how much of a professional Jeff Cunningham.

Roogsy
11-23-2010, 02:13 PM
http://www.itsserious.biz/images/Serious_content.jpg

Parkdale
11-23-2010, 02:17 PM
roogsy is trying to steal my punchlines, because I stole his earlier in the day.

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/9992/original/serious-business-police.jpg?1250726993

billyfly
11-23-2010, 02:19 PM
Cunningham is like school in summer. No class.

A Stick
11-23-2010, 02:33 PM
I'm far from a classless fan but Jeff Cunningham is a cunt.


I am located in the front row of 118. Like Jeffro said, Cunningham has no class and he's an idiot. I could not believe the way he reacted to our comments. His miss at the end of the game was total justice. BTW, if you look in the dictionary you will see Cunny's picture under the word classless! :facepalm:

Cheers;

A Stick

TFCin110
11-23-2010, 03:03 PM
I think classless is the wrong word....maybe unprofessional is better?

BoltonTFC
11-23-2010, 03:34 PM
Heckling a bag of crap like Cunningham is fair game, but don't get your panties in a twist when he gives it back. If you can dish it out, then take it too.

TFC07
11-23-2010, 03:36 PM
Heckling a bag of crap like Cunningham is fair game, but don't get your panties in a twist when he gives it back. If you can dish it out, then take it too.

Yeah, and I admit the fans heckling at Cunningham deserved what they got in the end.

Whoop
11-23-2010, 03:43 PM
My favourite reaction of all-time from an opposing player is still Claudio Reyna's when heckling him with the chant "Who are ya" he pointed to the back of his jersey.

CommradePolski
11-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Can some one let me know why we don't like Hartmann? I think we were on his case far more than Cunningham. Was it in good humor (we didn't do this for Pickens), or I imagine I'm missing out on some history we have with Hartmann??

Its not that we dont like Hartman. We just like to heckle him is all. He is easy prey. Im sure a lot of people would agree that he is a skilled player but still fair game for heckling. Most people didnt heckle pickens because most of the south end seemed to be rooting for colorado. I yelled at pickens but nothing serious.

sulfur
11-23-2010, 03:56 PM
My favourite reaction of all-time from an opposing player is still Claudio Reyna's when heckling him with the chant "Who are ya" he pointed to the back of his jersey.
Hartman did something like that last year. CretanBull, Chris, and I were mouthing at him from the corner beside 104 when he was getting a ball. He yelled back asking if we could read because it said who he was on his shirt.

I always thought that was pretty funny.

CommradePolski
11-23-2010, 04:06 PM
You guys remember Sala? He used to wave at us while we were heckling him. He took it really well and didnt seem to care.

Auzzy
11-23-2010, 04:40 PM
Can we agree that this is not classy?

Soccer player jailed for driving car at ref on field:
http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/article/895430--soccer-player-jailed-for-driving-car-at-ref-on-field

CommradePolski
11-23-2010, 04:48 PM
Id say thats the most classy thing ever.

Jeffro
11-23-2010, 04:55 PM
Heckling a bag of crap like Cunningham is fair game, but don't get your panties in a twist when he gives it back. If you can dish it out, then take it too.

I was done with this thread, but holy fuck, how many times are we going around on this one? OUR GOAL IS TO GET HIM CHIRPING BACK AT US!! PETERBOROUGH DID NOT CRY HIMSELF TO SLEEP BECAUSE JEFF CUNNINGHAM CALLED HIM NAMES!! THERE IS NOT A SINGLE THING JEFF CUNNINGHAM COULD SAY TO ME THAT WOULD HURT MY FEELINGS OR MAKE ME MAD. Do I need to King Dave size this post??

:picard::picard::picard:

peterboroughtfcfan
11-23-2010, 05:12 PM
I was done with this thread, but holy fuck, how many times are we going around on this one? OUR GOAL IS TO GET HIM CHIRPING BACK AT US!! PETERBOROUGH DID NOT CRY HIMSELF TO SLEEP BECAUSE JEFF CUNNINGHAM CALLED HIM NAMES!! THERE IS NOT A SINGLE THING JEFF CUNNINGHAM COULD SAY TO ME THAT WOULD HURT MY FEELINGS OR MAKE ME MAD. Do I need to King Dave size this post??

:picard::picard::picard:



This thread has pretty much summed up the reason why most members tend to put serious posts in the members section. I'm all for participation in the group, but when people lose track of the central message and grab onto a specific ill-informed post you can really hi-jack a legitimate discussion.

v00d00daddy
11-23-2010, 05:59 PM
Just to give it a bit of perspective....and no, this is not an excuse because I don't use the word fag or faggot and I don't refer to things as "gay" because I understand how that can be taken.

That being said...here is a pretty decent explanation of why some may use that term (and I'm also not trying to suggest that this is what Cunnigham meant)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA

On the topic of heckling him. I don't get it. If Dallas was playing TFC then I can see the reasoning. The fact that it was two teams unrelated to us at all would indicate to me that people want to heckle the guy just to be nasty....stemming from him being a shitty soccer player for us two years ago.

It's kind of childish if you ask me. A neutral observer would have seen your exchange (and peterboroughs) with Cunningham as two (or three) guys going back and forth at each other for no good reason other than to hear themselves talk tough. Laughable...but just one guys opinion.

BTW...whenever he plays against TFC I'm the first to yell at his ass. lol

edit: can somebody please fix the youtube link I posted...I don't know how....please and thanks.

Whoop
11-23-2010, 06:11 PM
1IFloXOuLgA

Technorgasm
11-23-2010, 06:17 PM
s'why i fired back on bigsoccer (something i don't normally do, that place is a toilet). they said we were classless for the reception we'd given him, i responded with his "no one should want to play there" comment about TO.

the response i got was that my quote was out of context, and his comments were in regards to the pitch and mojo.


100% correct. . no one should EVER want to play here. . . . as a visitor.

You think when the the opposition take the field in the San Siro, camp Nou, Anfield or upton park they dont hear exactly what dirty nasty things their mothers did to donkeys the night before the match? doesnt p[hase THEM. . . but it does him. .. I think thats the point. . .

peterboroughtfcfan
11-23-2010, 06:19 PM
Just to give it a bit of perspective....and no, this is not an excuse because I don't use the word fag or faggot and I don't refer to things as "gay" because I understand how that can be taken.

That being said...here is a pretty decent explanation of why some may use that term (and I'm also not trying to suggest that this is what Cunnigham meant)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA

On the topic of heckling him. I don't get it. If Dallas was playing TFC then I can see the reasoning. The fact that it was two teams unrelated to us at all would indicate to me that people want to heckle the guy just to be nasty....stemming from him being a shitty soccer player for us two years ago.

It's kind of childish if you ask me. A neutral observer would have seen your exchange (and peterboroughs) with Cunningham as two (or three) guys going back and forth at each other for no good reason other than to hear themselves talk tough. Laughable...but just one guys opinion.

BTW...whenever he plays against TFC I'm the first to yell at his ass. lol

edit: can somebody please fix the youtube link I posted...I don't know how....please and thanks.


I suppose I respect where you're going with this, but frankly I was pulling for Colorado. I really didn't want to see that guy lift the cup up in our building. Getting under his skin just facilitated that.

Obviously I'm more passionate about TFC than I was for Colorado that night, but the same logic applies. One of the brilliant things about supporter's groups is our ability to affect the game. That's different than any other sport in the world. In that context, maybe what transpired could be viewed as childish, but there's a purpose to everything. Its based on the exact same logic as lighting off flares to intimate opposing players - you are just trying to throw them off their game. I'd like to think that the SW corner did that night.

Globetrotter
11-23-2010, 08:38 PM
One of the brilliant things about supporter's groups is our ability to affect the game. That's different than any other sport in the world.

Picture an offense or quarterback trying to call some plays in a stadium filled with 80,000 screaming fans making the snap count and helmet headsets inaudible. That is home field advantage and the crowd having an impact. I don't think a group of soccer fans dictate advantage to any game more so than any other sport. An enthusiastic or belligerent crowd is pretty much equally as effective or ineffective across a range of athletic competitions.

Shakes McQueen
11-23-2010, 08:57 PM
"Can you hear Columbus sing!?!"

"No, I cannot and that is somewhat unfortunate!!!"


I think this one works better...:D

Next year I say we chant

"Can you please reacquaint us with who you are! Can you please reacquaint us with who you are!"

- Scott

razor787
11-23-2010, 10:31 PM
I dont think cunningham has any class, but it has nothing to do with the cup match. He was unprofessional there, but I wouldnt define that as a lack of class. If you get under someones skin, they will fire back. I am sure Robbo and Dichio have each yelled back at fans at some point in their careers. They are known to be the classiest guys we have had in this club.

Brooker
11-23-2010, 11:35 PM
"Get Your Hands Off Your Fucking Hips You Lazy Cunt!"

billyfly
11-23-2010, 11:53 PM
The best post so far in this thread is Vic's.

Whoop
11-24-2010, 12:09 AM
That's what voodoo posted not me. I just helped with the link.

billyfly
11-24-2010, 12:12 AM
That's what voodoo posted not me. I just helped with the link.


So you 2 can both share my praise. Divide it as you see fit. LOL..

Wull
11-24-2010, 08:20 AM
so we can call cunningham a cunt but I can't call skandor a cunt?

v00d00daddy
11-24-2010, 10:32 AM
That's what voodoo posted not me. I just helped with the link.


So you 2 can both share my praise. Divide it as you see fit. LOL..


Thanks for fixing the link Whoopee.

Praise should be saved for Louis CK. He's fucking hilarious.

Section 117
11-24-2010, 12:25 PM
I was right there it was quite funny actually. i couldn't believe he stopped warming up to chirp back at us....

Prior to him going off on Peterborough, he said it wasn't his fault it was managements....

I didn't hear what he said to peterbotrough, but if he did infact call him a fag he is classless. Without us fans and fans in general there is no MLS and if players can't stand the ribbing we give them maybe it is time for them to look for a new job.

He is cunt for missing the sitter against Montreal and not giving his all when he wore our jersey and calling some on fag is just the icing on the cake. I for one am quite happy Dallas lost fuck him

J .
11-24-2010, 05:00 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how people on this message board forget that we are a supporter's group. The guy was awful and disrespected our team when he was here and again when he left.



There is a difference between a fan club and supporters group. The opposing teams have their skills on the field and supporters have ours in the stands.

Do whatever it takes minus physically harming someone to get them off their game. Nothing wrong with that. Its a part of sport.

Glad he got verbally abused. Love it.

Gixmo
11-25-2010, 10:21 AM
You guys remember Sala? He used to wave at us while we were heckling him. He took it really well and didnt seem to care.

I remember that very clearly..hilarious.. Sala took it hard all game.. If I remember right, that was the 4-0 blow out?

If my memory serves me correct as well, did he not after the match acknowledge the south end with a brief clap of the hands (Not in a sarcastic fashion) and then mentioned in the media that it was humourous?

CommradePolski
11-25-2010, 10:33 AM
Sounds about right. Sala was a good sport about it all.