Toronto FC turns to Klinsmann

[Boris]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/soccer/toronto-fc-turns-to-klinsmann/article1778410/

never saw this coming...........

[rocker]

solid consultant for the search.
if he doesn't find anybody good enough he can just install himself ;)

[billyfly]

a la Beeston

[Oldtimer]

This is a great decision by ML$E, given that the top brass know nothing about football.

Takes Brunt to break the news first. That's why he's one of the best sports journalists in Canada!

[Roogsy]

As someone wise just put it:

The soccer IQ at this club just went up a lot.

[rocktml]

hhmm....k you got my attention......

[werewolf]

Top form.

[rocker]

This is a great decision by ML$E, given that the top brass know nothing about football.

Takes Brunt to break the news first. That's why he's one of the best sports journalists in Canada!

with all his wonderful anonymous sources, how come Wheeler didn't break this?!?!?! ;) ;)

[Suds]

smart move

[Red Baron]

nice one

[Ageroo]

Very happy to know someone who actually has a football IQ will be shaking things up and looking into everything. I wonder how sweeping his powers will be.....

[Chevy]

As someone wise just put it:

The soccer IQ at this club just went up a lot.

I think the club now HAS a soccer IQ.

[billyfly]

More European style coach as manager coming.

[yellowfellow]

I never thought this is possible. This is beyond my realistic expectation...

[spot-on]

Hell...put him on the pitch.

[ACSertL]

Let's just hope he doesn't get replaced by Jupp Heynckes a few weeks before the beginning of the season :lol:

Ok ok...I am pretty excited about this news.

[daner90]

amazing!!

[Nuvinho]

Hell...put him on the pitch.
I agree

[ensco]

That is worryingly vaguely worded. The key to making this great is to not to screw up the roles.

Done right, this team can now attract great coaching candidates, and great players.

Done wrong, it'll scare them off.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Fucking awesome.
Too bad hes not GM, definitely a great look regardless.

[werewolf]

time to hire Bruno Labbadia for coach.

[Oldtimer]

He's looking at "all aspects."

That must mean...

Currywurst at BMO!!!!

mmmm currywurst.

http://www.kitchenproject.com/german/Bratwurst/currywurst/currywurst.jpg

[ArmenJBX]

I'd love it if he was the head coach/GM.

I hope that's how things work out, if no one good can take the positions.

[billyfly]

He's looking at "all aspects."

That must mean...

Currywurst at BMO!!!!

mmmm currywurst.

http://www.kitchenproject.com/german/Bratwurst/currywurst/currywurst.jpg

re-used but still funny

[UltraFootyKWC]

Amazing news! I just went from 6 to 12.

[Ageroo]

re-used but still funny

I've never seen this referenced before....;)

[Ossington Mental Youth]

He's looking at "all aspects."

That must mean...

Currywurst at BMO!!!!

mmmm currywurst.

http://www.kitchenproject.com/german/Bratwurst/currywurst/currywurst.jpg

totally ok with this as well

[billyfly]

I've never seen this referenced before....;)

Totally could have some right now.

TASTY

[Oldtimer]

So how long until ML$E sells out their 18K season tickets?

[billyfly]

everyone chg their avatars to Klinsmann!

[Ageroo]

So how long until ML$E sells out their 18K season tickets?

This will definitely help matters of low renewal.......

[Beach_Red]

That is worryingly vaguely worded. The key to making this great is to not to screw up the roles.

Done right, this team can now attract great coaching candidates, and great players.

Done wrong, it'll scare them off.

The Soccer Solutions website doesn't seem to have been updated in a while. Is this a better version of First Wave?

[Nuvinho]

So how long until ML$E sells out their 18K season tickets?
if this would of been announced last week, they'd probably get 90%+ renewals.

[Oldtimer]

everyone chg their avatars to Klinsmann!

I changed mine to currywurst.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

bitte bitte bitte, gibt mich was ich will

[werewolf]

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/AGF/1806.jpg

[ensco]

Klinsy speaking last June:


The soccer world is crazy, you know. Things come up overnight. I never thought I'd take the German national team to the last World Cup. I never thought that two years later I would take over Bayern Munich. So I don't know what happens tomorrow. There were calls coming in the last month [from Europe], but I resisted, because my family moved back in December to California, and we needed to get the kids settled. So you're not jumping on the next thing that becomes available. It might be a couple years down the road. You take things as they come.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/grant_wahl/06/02/klinsmann/index.html#ixzz13mJZHi00

[ArmenJBX]

He's not the GM or the coach though?

Why change your pics, he'll be gone as soon as he finds other people.

We're not out of it just yet.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

This is the part where we then sign Bruce Arena as GM and Steve Nichol as coach, HA

[Oldtimer]

He's not the GM or the coach though?

Why change your pics, he'll be gone as soon as he finds other people.

We're not out of it just yet.

He's not just a head hunter. I suspect he'll be here a while.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

He's not the GM or the coach though?

Why change your pics, he'll be gone as soon as he finds other people.

We're not out of it just yet.


Counting on him to lead us to the promised land (ie proper coaches/gm)

[billyfly]

^Jimmy, people in the know say he will be more than just a fly-by-night consultant.

His role will be far-reaching and impactful.

[ArmenJBX]

Please take this for what it's worth.

He just signed for a new club. His contract is hefty. I know it may seem impossible, but...

Michael Ballack as DP?

[billyfly]

Better chance at Del Piero

[H Bomb]

This is pretty cool. It was the obvious north american choice, but I do always say play the easy ball. Klinsmans pretty badass, top level player and an interesting personality. Thing is who knows what type of contribution his role will allow. Interesting news none the less, see where it goes from here

[ArmenJBX]

With a former coach that Ballack got along fairly well with, perhaps Klinsmann can convince Ballack to join Toronto?

If not Ballack, then Klose? Who knows! :D

[ACSertL]

everyone chg their avatars to Klinsmann!

Just to go against the grain I'm changing my to Rudi Voller.


http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/AGF/1806.jpg

:lol:

[Beach_Red]

^Jimmy, people in the know say he will be more than just a fly-by-night consultant.

His role will be far-reaching and impactful.

The company's role will be far-reaching and impactful, no doubt.

[werewolf]

I was going to start brainstorming German DPs and bombard the forum with ideas (and I still may)...but at least I will be somewhat logical about it.

[brad]

Better chance at Del Piero

Or Frings, who is considering the MLS.

[billyfly]

Let there be no mistake - Klinsmann, from those that know him, is a weird kat.

That's what got him into trouble at Bayern. I'll let the Bundesliga fans elaborate though.

[Ageroo]

I was going to start brainstorming German DPs and bombard the forum with ideas (and I still may)...but at least I will be somewhat logical about it.

THIS....:D

[rocker]

Let there be no mistake - Klinsmann, from those that know him, is a weird kat.

That's what got him into trouble at Bayern. I'll let the Bundesliga fans elaborate though.

what do you mean by weird? He likes to wear women's underwear?

[ACSertL]

I was going to start brainstorming German DPs and bombard the forum with ideas (and I still may)...but at least I will be somewhat logical about it.

:lol: Benjamin Auer

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Problem for me will be theyre likely never players from Werder so ill have to hold a grudge in one manner or another
:)

[Pachuco]

WOW. If this is true, this has exceeded my expectations.

[ArmenJBX]

What's illogical about signing someone like Michael Ballack?

I wasn't under the impression that the only possible DP's for Toronto were Canadian players who couldn't land a job in Europe and Spanish bench strikers who play for a lower half La Liga club.

Imagine if New York looked at Rafael Marquez/Henry and said, "Naaah, it's not logical, let's just sign....Carlos Calvo from Xerez."

[ArmenJBX]

http://mlsinsiderblog.com/?p=4043

[TFC USA]

This story alone has got me on a non-viagra aided 4 hour erection.

This is fucking fantastic.

[J .]

We will see what happens. Until there are points on the board and in the standings next year, Ill reserve happiness until I see tangible results.

[ensco]

At Bayern, Klinsmann had dressing room problems. He loved to talk about scientific methods and a new approach based on using technology (sound familiar?) but players complained to the papers that he knew nothing about tactics, and he was all about giving empty motivational speeches.

His bringing in Vasquez and Donovan were viewed as bad moves that showed how disconnected he'd become in California. Keep an eye on Vasquez in the TFC process now.

He wasn't popular with the Bayern fans - they didn't like that he quit Deutschland after 2006, he wasn't really a "Bayern guy" (he spent most of his best years elsewhere), he didn't move to Munich (this "affront" generated a lot of press), and he's got an aloof style that didn't work well with the media.

[werewolf]

What's illogical about signing someone like Michael Ballack?

I wasn't under the impression that the only possible DP's for Toronto were Canadian players who couldn't land a job in Europe and Spanish bench strikers who play for a lower half La Liga club.

Imagine if New York looked at Rafael Marquez/Henry and said, "Naaah, it's not logical, let's just sign....Carlos Calvo from Xerez."

I am not sure who insinuated that those were the necessary requirements to sign a DP.

Ballack just signed a new contract...that pretty much makes it illogical for him to come here.

[ArmenJBX]

Contracts can be broken :D

[Roogsy]

What's illogical about signing someone like Michael Ballack?

Unless Ballack is under contract elsewhere, I don't see why this would not be an option.

Although, do we really need another midfielder?

[billyfly]

what do you mean by weird? He likes to wear women's underwear?

See Ensco response.

[Technorgasm]

lol RPB Rumour fail. . .

GOOD LUCK JERGENS!!!!!

http://www.overstockdrugstore.com/product_images/z/019100109940.jpg

[GuelphStorm2007]

If true, (and Brunt usually right 90% of the time) this will bring some instant credibilty to the team. I think TFC needs some German or European mind set. Hopefully the likes of Frings kLOSE, and Podolski will follow him.

[werewolf]

Contracts can be broken :D

sure, at a price.

[BASE]

At Bayern, Klinsmann had dressing room problems.

His bringing in Vasquez and Donovan were viewed as bad moves that showed how disconnected he'd become in California. Keep an eye on Vasquez in the TFC process now.
.

Beat me to it...Martin Vasquez jumps out as a leading candidate given he is a good friend of Klinsmann. I just can't imagine another underachieving former Chivas coach at the helm. That said I do like Vasquez and he is apparently a top notch/classy guy.

[razor787]

Frings is likely, Klose and Podolski I just can't picture.

[billyfly]

If true, (and Brunt usually right 90% of the time) this will bring some instant credibilty to the team. I think TFC needs some German or European mind set. Hopefully the likes of Frings kLOSE, and Podolski will follow him.


It's true.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

At Bayern, Klinsmann had dressing room problems. He loved to talk about scientific methods and a new approach based on using technology (sound familiar?) but players complained to the papers that he knew nothing about tactics, and he was all about giving empty motivational speeches.

His bringing in Vasquez and Donovan were viewed as bad moves that showed how disconnected he'd become in California. Keep an eye on Vasquez in the TFC process now.

He wasn't popular with the Bayern fans - they didn't like that he quit Deutschland after 2006, he wasn't really a "Bayern guy" (he spent most of his best years elsewhere), he didn't move to Munich (this "affront" generated a lot of press), and he's got an aloof style that didn't work well with the media.

Dont forget he had players hoisted on him and had to play under the direction/criticism of Uli Hoeness. He is particularly unorthodox in his methods (especially in comparison to alte deustche methods) and was put in a position of pressure. That being said he might not have been the best man for the job.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

I should make mention im werder fan, and in no way am a fan of Bayern

[TFC07]

That's a good start of rebuilding your club.

[Pookie]

First thought is this is impressive.

Second thought is, that is a lot of work for a temporary contract. I've got to think that this role will continue in some way, shape or form, beyond the appointment of a "GM"

[billyfly]

First thought is this is impressive.

Second thought is, that is a lot of work for a temporary contract. I've got to think that this role will continue in some way, shape or form, beyond the search for a GM.


Everything I have heard about this points to yes.

[Sweeper]

Pheww.....I'm so relieved. I'll drink a German beer to that.

[ArmenJBX]

Hopefully we can sign some credible talent because we have Jurgen Klinsmann on board.

He seems to be more connected or at least better liked in Europe than...Mo Johnston, Rangers and Celtics public enemy number one at one point or another.

[Beach_Red]

First thought is this is impressive.

Second thought is, that is a lot of work for a temporary contract. I've got to think that this role will continue in some way, shape or form, beyond the search for a GM.

The contract is with Soccer Solutions, right? Their website seems out of date, and they list Klinssman as a VP, so any idea what his role will be? They still list the Galaxy as a client (and they still refer to the NY/NJ MetroStars as owned by AEG).

[Kooper]

First thought is this is impressive.

Second thought is, that is a lot of work for a temporary contract. I've got to think that this role will continue in some way, shape or form, beyond the appointment of a "GM"

You have to think that he is being brought on to do the following:
Short term
- MLS Expansion Draft
- MLS NCAA draft
- Developing a philosophy and system to win
- Hiring GM
- Hiring Coach
- Find a DP(s)
Long Term
- Building the youth academy
- Scout new players for the team

Concerns (And I realize this is early days, it is all speculation and I have nothing to back any of this up)
- Stepping on the GM and coaches' toes once they have been signed. Who is in charge once the permanent team is set up.
- Agent fees for players they sign. I would hate another 1st wave situation

If this proves true I have never been more hopeful for the future or TFC.

[Roogsy]

^ You love your lists man! :lol:

[Oldtimer]

Certainly a million times better than what MoJo brought to the table:

http://www.stochasticgeometry.ie/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/snakeoil.jpg?w=257

[spot-on]

So will Klinsmann be TFC's version of a Director of Operations role?

Discuss.

[Oldtimer]

Discuss.

Why? :tongue:

[spot-on]

Why? :tongue:

hahaha I just wanted an excuse to put that in there :D

[Whoop]

The Soccer Solutions website doesn't seem to have been updated in a while. Is this a better version of First Wave?

Good point.

[Oldtimer]

hahaha I just wanted an excuse to put that in there :D
ha-ha.

[mastermixer]

Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet... he just has ownership in a consulting company

http://www.soccersolutions.com/index.htm

Doesnt mean he will be best buds with Anselmi any time soon.

[Waggy]

Juergen Klinsmann to run entire TFC operation. News conference to announce it coming in the next few days. GD

http://twitter.com/#!/sportsnetsoccer/status/29119672930


And I jizzed, in, my pants

[ArmenJBX]

holy fuck.

Holy Fuck.

HOLY FUCK.

HOLY FUCK.

[Whoop]

So he's president/director of operations, but not?

Is he TFC's answer to Erik Soler?

[Whoop]

Haven't heard from many Spurs supporters yet. LOL

[Waggy]

What Jimmy said. I'm making my O face, blaring I gotta feeling and digging around for my scarf. And who denies the power of the great pumpkin!

[razor787]

Jesus Christ.... ENTIRE TFC operation?

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Dont forget he had players hoisted on him and had to play under the direction/criticism of Uli Hoeness. He is particularly unorthodox in his methods (especially in comparison to alte deustche methods) and was put in a position of pressure. That being said he might not have been the best man for the job.


Alot of the same reasons he left Germany, he wanted 100% control, they refused to give it to him

[torontocelt]

Good point.

While I am glad that we have consultant who has done a lot in the game I will wait and see who is actually brought in as coach and gm. I will also wait and see who is brought into the team. There is a long way to go but this is a positive first step.

Just to throw out there a couple of completely random names I dont want:

Pierre Littbarski or Berti Vogts

[Keyman]

Juergen Klinsmann to run entire TFC operation. News conference to announce it coming in the next few days. GD

http://twitter.com/#!/sportsnetsoccer/status/29119672930


And I jizzed, in, my pants


Wait. Does this differ from Brunt's article? I'm so confused!!!!!

[wzhxvy]

What does the twitter say ? I cant read it from work

[prizby]

Please take this for what it's worth.

He just signed for a new club. His contract is hefty. I know it may seem impossible, but...

Michael Ballack as DP?

has 18 months left on his contract...do we really need an injury prone person?


Better chance at Del Piero

because making this team older is exactly what toronto fc needs



Klinsman just turned TFC from one of the jokes of the league to one of the envys of the league

[H Bomb]

Shit just got real. Will need more info before commenting further.

[Waggy]

Wait. Does this differ from Brunt's article? I'm so confused!!!!!

I'd love to tell you, but I know as much as you do. I just am choosing to overly (or hopefully properly) react to the news. It'd seem to differ, yes. Brunt said Klinsmann was a consultant, Dobson said he's running the whole Soccer Operations. That said, it doesn't say he's going to coach or gm. At worst it'd seem to be a Paul Beeston type role. At best, Brian Burke.

[Borga]

Juergen Klinsmann to run entire TFC operation. News conference to announce it coming in the next few days. GD

That is the twitter from Sportsnet Soccercentral.

[TFC07]

Juergen Klinsmann to run entire TFC operation. News conference to announce it coming in the next few days. GD

That is the twitter from Sportsnet Soccercentral.

That makes sense since Klinsmann wants control!

[ArmenJBX]

OKAY!!

Let the German Revolution BEGIN! :D

The Germans win a lot right guys! Guys?

......guys? :(

[v00d00daddy]

has 18 months left on his contract...do we really need an injury prone person?



because making this team older is exactly what toronto fc needs



Klinsman just turned TFC from one of the jokes of the league to one of the envys of the league


making this team better is what this team needs. if klinsmann can bring either of those guys it would be a coup. (del piero more than ballack but whatever).

I'm happy to hear about Klinsmann's appointment. Now I just hope they give him the autonomy to do whatever he deems fit.

That MUST be the end of Tom Anselmi as it pertains to soccer operations....and god help us all if Klinsmann was told he has to keep anybody.

I hope he cleans house in one fell swoop. Mass firing...followed up by a mass hiring/announcement of new staff. That would be a dream come true.

[ArmenJBX]

It's like we're an expansion club all over again, except we have De Rosario, Cann, Nana, Frei, Lindsay, and a bunch of other solid, dependable players!

Things are looking okay, finally. :D

[billyfly]

There is no Klinsmann, only Zuul.

[Beach_Red]

Wait. Does this differ from Brunt's article? I'm so confused!!!!!

Yes. Brunt's article says that Soccer Solutions has been hired as the consultant. Klinsmann is a VP with the company.

The Twitter makes it sound like he's been hired himself.

Very different things.

[flatpicker]

There is no Klinsmann, only Zuul.

Not sure what Ghostbusters has to do with this story... but you made me laugh anyway.

[rocker]

the tweet from sportsnet seems unlikely.. I mean they just started searching recently, admittedly, and talked about taking their time, with Jimmy and Earl minding the ship.
we haven't heard much in the way of speculation about anyone interviewed so far. so if the tweet is correct, they went and hired the DoS that quickly? And he's the coach? Who knows. I think it's more likely he's the consultant for the search.

[flatpicker]

I thought he was great in Das Boot.

[billyfly]

SCTV's Das Boobs was a better film

[JonO]

There is no Klinsmann, only Zuul.
Is he our new DP? Can your source confirm this?

[billyfly]

Only to RPB members.

[mmmikey]

yes! now i have an excuse to put klinsmann on my white tfc jersey!!

[Hitcho]

Interesting. So they've basically appointed a soccer consultancy firm to structure the club, which is headed up by Klinsmann. Which makes us his client (or one of them) rather than his employer.

I'd much rather see him as the GM, without his soccer company in tow, but this is still a promising move by MLSE. it;s very comforting to know that these kinds of decisions will not be taken by Anselmi and co. now (sorry Tom, no offence, but you wouldn't want me running the leafs either).

Good first step. Long way to go. Please keep this up MLSE, I like the way the last couple of weeks have gone a lot more than the way the last three years have gone :D...

[Kooper]

^ You love your lists man! :lol:

Lists are great for many reasons.
1. They are easy to read.
2. They are efficient
3. They catch the eye.

Reasons why lists are not as good as paragraphs.
1. None

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Is he consulting or being hired to run the team?!


Zuul that was funny.

[Luanda]

Calm down folks. Let us not start counting the eggs before they are hatched!

[Auzzy]

^ But it's never too early to drink some beers!

I hope he will have say about all kinds of matters. I mean, Currywurst is pretty good if it's done right, but how about the beer selection? Forget $5 beer, FIVE DOLLAR GERMAN BEER THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU'RE WELCOME! Now he's not reported to be a big beer fan, but I'm sure he can help.

We need another list please: the 5 best German beers to serve at BMO next year. OK I'll start:
1. Köstritzer Schwarzbier
2. Gatzweiler Alt
3. Warsteiner
4. Erdinger Weissbier
and....

[Waggy]

Calm down folks. Let us not start counting the eggs before they are hatched!

You must be new in here. TFC TO WIN WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously though, if Dobsons reporting it thats good enough for me. Klinsmann being involved in TFC in any capacity is a MASSIVE win for a franchise that's only lost. We've had so little to celebrate, fuck it. Why not. Go nuts. We did something right! We don't completely suck! We don't completely suck!

[Keystone FC]

I don't care in what capacity Jurgen comes to TFC in. Just having that guy associated with TFC is a boost in morale and could actually get us some players who might not come to Toronto.
And if he could teach our players how to properly dive I will be FOREVER in his debt.
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[werewolf]

We need another list please: the 5 best German beers to serve at BMO next year. OK I'll start:
1. Köstritzer Schwarzbier
2. Gatzweiler Alt
3. Warsteiner
4. Erdinger Weissbier
and....

You are very misguided.

Let's get a proper list.

1. Hofbrau
2. Hacker-Pschorr

That pretty much covers everything.

[Wagner]

Let's get some Bundesliga Friendlies!!!!

[Redcoe15]

My new avatar:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/EmperorJon/GermanTorontoFCFlag.png?1288389109

:D

[werewolf]

My new avatar:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/EmperorJon/GermanTorontoFCFlag.png?1288389109

:D


http://blog.therisetothetop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/url3.jpg

[Auzzy]

You are very misguided.

Let's get a proper list.

1. Hofbrau
2. Hacker-Pschorr

That pretty much covers everything.

Yes Hofbräu is good, but which one? München? Würzburger? Stuttgarter? I think we could compromise though:

1. Hofbräu (you pick, the ones I've had were good)
2. Hacker-Pschorr
3. Warsteiner
4. Gatzweiler Alt
5. Köstritzer Schwarzbier

PS I love to count my beers before they're tapped...

[MFG1]

meh. too late hot plate

[werewolf]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HmOrL1_X9jM/TIcZlZuB_7I/AAAAAAAAAV4/4gd5J2-169Q/s320/hofbrau.jpg

Warsteiner and Kostritzer are acceptable. Never had Gatzweiler.

An Eisbock would be important too, or a dunkel hefeweissen, for the games in the cold (beginning and end of the season).

[pekduck]

My new avatar:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/EmperorJon/GermanTorontoFCFlag.png?1288389109

:D


:flare::flare::flare:

[Luanda]

You must be new in here. TFC TO WIN WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously though, if Dobsons reporting it thats good enough for me. Klinsmann being involved in TFC in any capacity is a MASSIVE win for a franchise that's only lost. We've had so little to celebrate, fuck it. Why not. Go nuts. We did something right! We don't completely suck! We don't completely suck!

Take a look at the registered user date!

[alex andrew]

guten abend,

ich freue mich sehr !

p.s. werewolf, no goose, no pigeon, no pheasant ?

[nimamalek]

Not a fan of this one, I like the guy and he's a big name but what experience does he have hiring a coach and GM? Does he have any experience fixing an organization? He was not liked at Munich and his only other real success is a short coaching job with the German National team.

[razor787]

He is a VP at a company that takes consulting contracts, and has unlimited contacts, and much more knowlege of the game then the people at MLSE.

[Auzzy]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HmOrL1_X9jM/TIcZlZuB_7I/AAAAAAAAAV4/4gd5J2-169Q/s320/hofbrau.jpg

Warsteiner and Kostritzer are acceptable. Never had Gatzweiler.

An Eisbock would be important too, or a dunkel hefeweissen, for the games in the cold (beginning and end of the season).

I love a Hefe, but I was also thinking Köstritzer is great on a cold day. :D

[werewolf]

guten abend,

ich freue mich sehr !

p.s. werewolf, no goose, no pigeon, no pheasant ?

Meine list ist nicht fertig, its a work in progress!

[Keystone FC]

My new avatar:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/EmperorJon/GermanTorontoFCFlag.png?1288389109

:D
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[UltraSuperMegaMo]

? I'm still a little confused. The sportsnet tweet makes it sound like TFC is hiring him as a team president. The articles out there make it sound like he'll just be consulting.

[Suds]

Schweinsteiger!!!

It has nothing to do with TFC or this story ... but right now he has the best footballer name going ... and he's German. About the only lame-ass link I could come up with. :D

[Darlofletch]

I don't care in what capacity Jurgen comes to TFC in. Just having that guy associated with TFC is a boost in morale and could actually get us some players who might not come to Toronto.
And if he could teach our players how to properly dive I will be FOREVER in his debt.
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wahey, I wondered how long it would take for a diving comment to come out. I'm surprised it took this long, admirable restraint folks.

[Suds]

My new avatar:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/EmperorJon/GermanTorontoFCFlag.png?1288389109

:D


new banner :)

[jloome]

The likely story is that Brunt's is correct, but that essentially means he's being given control over the entire team's structure.

So they're both right, in essence, although officially I would bet it'll be a contract consultancy.

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

^ True, but the sportsnet tweet definitely sounds different (in so much as a tweet can sound a particular way or have a subtext):


Juergen Klinsmann to run entire TFC operation. News conference to announce it coming in the next few days. GD

Everywhere else is saying consulting, so that seems the most likely thing.

[Gixmo]

What's illogical about signing someone like Michael Ballack?

I wasn't under the impression that the only possible DP's for Toronto were Canadian players who couldn't land a job in Europe and Spanish bench strikers who play for a lower half La Liga club.

Imagine if New York looked at Rafael Marquez/Henry and said, "Naaah, it's not logical, let's just sign....Carlos Calvo from Xerez."

I dunno, I'd start a new thread seeking opinions.

Isn't this one about Klinnsmann? Didn't see Ballack/Voller/Platini/Frings/etc in the thread title?

[bgnewf]

http://viewfromthesouthstands.com/2010/10/klinsmann-to-tfc/

My thoughts on reports that TFC is about to sign Jurgen Klinsmann and his company Soccer Solutions as consultants to assist in choosing a new front office and coaching staff for Toronto FC.

Comments are always welcome.

[werewolf]

It would be a dream if he was in charge of the whole thing, and given a title to reflect that. Though a consultant is still good, and given the authority could really turn this ship around. Guess we will find out the next business day.




Comments and thoughts are always welcome in this thread too.

[Derko]

Not a fan of this one, I like the guy and he's a big name but what experience does he have hiring a coach and GM? Does he have any experience fixing an organization? He was not liked at Munich and his only other real success is a short coaching job with the German National team.

Your optimism is outstanding, considering TFC has spiraled under Johnston, and Mr. Passion Preki, It is a positive step in my mind

[ManUtd4ever]

Klinsmann's presence and football pedigree will definitely provide much needed credibility to the organization as a whole. I would prefer he is hired as TFC's Director Of Operations but at the very least, his involvement in building the infrastructure of the franchise is certainly the first step in the right direction after such a tumultuous season...

[ag futbol]

Seriously, what is it going to take for us to get some Currywurst.

I can't believe nobody mentioned this at the townhalls.

[alex andrew]

http://www.klinsmann.com/the-person/

ich bin still happy, i mean we'll never be totally happy, lol, but again, it's good news !

[rocker]

Jurgen is a baker by trade... what's he gonna cook up at TFC?

[Auzzy]

Bakers can cook? :D

[Beach_Red]

It would be a dream if he was in charge of the whole thing, and given a title to reflect that. Though a consultant is still good, and given the authority could really turn this ship around. Guess we will find out the next business day.




Comments and thoughts are always welcome in this thread too.

I wonder if it's an exclusive deal. Soccer Solutions still list the LA Galaxy as a client. I guess in this single-entity league there wouldn't be any conflict in the same company advising two teams.

[boban]

Not a fan of this one, I like the guy and he's a big name but what experience does he have hiring a coach and GM? Does he have any experience fixing an organization? He was not liked at Munich and his only other real success is a short coaching job with the German National team.
Germany's present success, despite Klinsman's departure, has a lot to do with the changes he brought about.

[Stryker]

Schweinsteiger!!!

It has nothing to do with TFC or this story ... but right now he has the best footballer name going ... and he's German. About the only lame-ass link I could come up with. :D

Best footballer? Best name period. Everytime I heard it during the world cup I'd get giddy at it's extreme coolness.

[Auzzy]

Pig climber yeah!!!

[WHITEY]

Hey GM, just fucking wank it and be done with your day long hard on LOL!

[billyfly]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HmOrL1_X9jM/TIcZlZuB_7I/AAAAAAAAAV4/4gd5J2-169Q/s320/hofbrau.jpg

Warsteiner and Kostritzer are acceptable. Never had Gatzweiler.

An Eisbock would be important too, or a dunkel hefeweissen, for the games in the cold (beginning and end of the season).

You mean this kind of beer?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/german_beer_girl_costumes.jpg

[prizby]

making this team better is what this team needs. if klinsmann can bring either of those guys it would be a coup. (del piero more than ballack but whatever).


do you really want a guy who's form has dipped every year since 2007. Who's Serie A goals per game has decreased from 0.56 to 0.13 per game?

and do you really want another Mista type of person who takes a pay check and sits on the side line injured...when was the last time Ballack even played a game! The guy has been injured on 5 seperate occassions since 2007...if ballack got injured playing for tfc i bet people like you that would want ballack here would be the same people that would question why tfc signed such an injury prone player




Not a fan of this one, I like the guy and he's a big name but what experience does he have hiring a coach and GM? Does he have any experience fixing an organization? He was not liked at Munich and his only other real success is a short coaching job with the German National team.

He was with LA Galaxy briefly...he was offered US National Team Coach on two different occassions. He has lived in the US for several years now, so he's seen how the MLS has been

oh and lets not forget about him/his company probably have some great connections in an untapped German market (in terms of players coming from Germany to play in MLS). I have a feeling he can do something like Erik Solar/Hans Backe did when they grabbed a few guys from Scandanavia who had a great impact on the NYRB team.

oh and not to mention he had his eye on the Munich youth team while coaching Bayern and I am willing to be there might be a player or two that fell through the cracks looking for an opportunity.

[Pookie]

Can't wait to see next year's tailgates:

_IM8MIYZxOU

[Darlofletch]

So, all you german speakers and typers. how do you do the umlaut thing?

[Auzzy]

For ü press & hold Alt key and press 129 on number pad (the only one we really need in this case...)
Ü is Alt 154
ä is Alt 132 -- Ä is Alt 142
ö is Alt 148 -- Ö is Alt 153
ß is Alt 225 -- No capital :D
Latest rumour going around the web BTW is that RPB is being renamed Red Patch Böys....

Two funny tweets from PB:

Paulbeirne Paul Beirne
WHHAAAAATTTTT???
5 hours ago

sean_dennis Sean D retweeted by Paulbeirne
Hey @Paulbeirne are yoü having the IT guys work the weekend installing "ü" keys on the compüters at BMO? #hüge
2 hours ago

[Sullivan]

He hired Joachim Low as his assistant for the 2006 WC. No one saw that coming.

[CretanBull]

You mean this kind of beer?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/german_beer_girl_costumes.jpg

There's beer in that picture? I can't see it :D

[Darlofletch]

For ü press & hold Alt key and press 129 on number pad (the only one we really need in this case...)
Ü is Alt 154
ä is Alt 132 -- Ä is Alt 142
ö is Alt 148 -- Ö is Alt 153
ß is Alt 225 -- No capital :D
Latest rumour going around the web BTW is that RPB is being renamed Red Patch Böys....

Two funny tweets from PB:

Paulbeirne Paul Beirne
WHHAAAAATTTTT???
5 hours ago

sean_dennis Sean D retweeted by Paulbeirne
Hey @Paulbeirne are yoü having the IT guys work the weekend installing "ü" keys on the compüters at BMO? #hüge
2 hours ago

Cüül thanks.

[Auzzy]

In Germany they just say "cool" but pronounce it funny. :D

[Shakes McQueen]

Great sign that management have at least learned something from the last four years. Klinsmann is exactly the kind of guy this club needs to attract and seek out top management, as well as re-order the running of the entire club.

Fucking great move.

- Scott

[TFC/Everton]

Best move in TFC history. I'll :drinking: to that!!!

[denime]

Great move, Klinsi will make difference and if he has to kick someones ass I know he will.

http://www.donursulo.com/images/27.05.2006/Klinsi%20schrie%20geh%20Kacken.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4lfra-T31w&feature=player_embedded

[koryo]

Well, TFC will dive as well as any other MLS team next season.

Look, MLSE have brought in a big name. Okay, he lives in California but don't get carried away. Let's see some results first.

[Auzzy]

^ This is the premature jizz thread. We should create another thread for realistic comments. :D

[Redcoe15]

You mean this kind of beer?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/german_beer_girl_costumes.jpg
Nice juggs. UHHH... jugg... MUG! Thats right. :D

[koryo]

^ This is the premature jizz thread. We should create another thread for realistic comments. :D

My bad. Sorry Auz. It's just that his company seems to be at best a head-hunting agency, at worst a glorified event-planning shop. Anyone who's ever dealt with either shouldn't be overly excited at this stage.

[Auzzy]

Nice juggs. UHHH... jugg... MUG! Thats right. :D

It's OK. You can call them jugs. Wikipedia says so: "In certain countries, especially New Zealand and Australia, a 'Jug' refers to a jug (usually plastic) containing exactly 2 pints (just over a litre) of beer." That's a Maß in the picture, a litre, so it fits perfectly.

Oh and BTW Wikipedia also says "The term jug can also be used describe the breast of a woman, due to the fact that it holds liquid."

So it's all good! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jug_(container)


Koryo, you're right of course, just having some fun while working late... :D

[koryo]

Koryo, you're right of course, just having some fun while working late... :D

Still working at this hour? Scandalous! Get thyself to a bar forth-with. There's a good lad :D

[James17930]

:stogey:

[rudiker]

Hopefully we can celebrate our wins with these...

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200805/r247120_1011223.jpg

[JonO]

Look, MLSE have brought in a big name. Okay, he lives in California but don't get carried away. Let's see some results first.
No matter what happens this year, I do not expect results next year. If I see a real plan I will be happy and I think is more important to set us up to become perennial contenders.

That being said, with the parity in the league, it should be possible to go from the hot mess we have had this year to a playoff team with the proper people in place. Although it does get harder every year...

[Blowing Bubbles]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/soccer/toronto-fc-turns-to-klinsmann/article1778410/

never saw this coming...........

this was me upon seeing the headline:

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad119/biscuits420/71fa73072c085b2df9ce0330423f39cd.gif

[Yohan]

just Klinsmann's name could have same impact as Beckham's name did for LAG... it certainly makes TFC more sexier in footy world, thus more guys willing to play for us

[Shakes McQueen]

My bad. Sorry Auz. It's just that his company seems to be at best a head-hunting agency, at worst a glorified event-planning shop. Anyone who's ever dealt with either shouldn't be overly excited at this stage.

The article says that he's going to be given a free hand to completely overhaul things like scouting at the club. That doesn't sound like a "glorified event planner" to me.

But that's sort of irrelevant anyway. If you're planning an event, wouldn't you be pleased to have landed the best event planner? Toronto FC are looking to re-organize the club, as well as hire a new manager and coach, and have hired a real football guy with loads of world-class experience to handle the process.

That alone is worth celebrating, from a team that has made so many bad football-related decisions over the years. Results are still the most important thing, but it doesn't mean we can't give an enthusiastic thumbs up to good decisions made along the way.

- Scott

[Mikey]

So....0ther than Soccer Solutions being in talks with MLSE...nothing confirmed then? :rolleyes:

[Shakes McQueen]

So....0ther than Soccer Solutions being in talks with MLSE...nothing confirmed then? :rolleyes:

It says they are in the final stages of negotiations, which I presume means a deal is as good as done. I don't think Brunt would portray it as a such, if that wasn't the case.

- Scott

[Glenchen29]

I suggested KLINSMANN ages ago, it's true MLSE reads the boards!

Herzlich Willkommen JURGY

Ich liebe currywurst!!!

[prizby]

you and 999 others

[Glenchen29]

998:cheers:

[Froshler]

Come on now....
The best beer is from Bayern-

Paulaner
Spaten
Lowenbrau

and Weisswurst at BMO!

[FluSH]

:flare::flare::flare::flare::flare::flare::flare:: flare::flare::flare::flare::flare::scarf:

[ArmenJBX]

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101009174218/gtawiki/images/c/c9/Pi%C3%9Fwasser-GTAIV-coaster.jpg

[Whoop]

Welcome Jay Göppingen.

[FluSH]

Shameless plug:

http://redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=25223

I've always loved that song... :D

[koryo]

The article says that he's going to be given a free hand to completely overhaul things like scouting at the club. That doesn't sound like a "glorified event planner" to me.

But that's sort of irrelevant anyway. If you're planning an event, wouldn't you be pleased to have landed the best event planner? Toronto FC are looking to re-organize the club, as well as hire a new manager and coach, and have hired a real football guy with loads of world-class experience to handle the process.

That alone is worth celebrating, from a team that has made so many bad football-related decisions over the years. Results are still the most important thing, but it doesn't mean we can't give an enthusiastic thumbs up to good decisions made along the way.

- Scott

A fair point Scott, as it JonO's on the previous page. But a name, however credible, is just that. I'm not going to get too excited until there's a strategy put in place and it starts to pay dividends.

[billyfly]

It says they are in the final stages of negotiations, which I presume means a deal is as good as done. I don't think Brunt would portray it as a such, if that wasn't the case.

- Scott

It's a done deal Scott. This has been confirmed by RPB sources.

[prizby]

just gonna throw an idea outhere...

Antonio Cassano anyone

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-sampdoria-cassano

[ArmenJBX]

Naww, he's a nutcase.

I'm sorry, but if we were to bring him in, he'd do incredible things for this club, he'd score for sure, we'd be a playoff team, etc. etc.

However, he'll probably end up tearing the team apart.

[rocker]

just gonna throw an idea outhere...

Antonio Cassano anyone

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-sampdoria-cassano

What's the connection between Klinsmann and Antonio Cassano???

[ArmenJBX]

No connection, he's being released by Samp, so he's saying we could go after him

[guelphguy1965]

Once again excellent timing with 'big news' . MLSE is a mster of coming up with big announcement just before renewal time.

[rocker]

No connection, he's being released by Samp, so he's saying we could go after him

which is my point..... the thread's about Klinsmann ;)

random names of players has nothing to do with Klinsmann.

[ArmenJBX]

True.

Perhaps we should start a new thread,

"Aspirations, Hopes and Dreams for 2011."

Or something like that? :D

[rocker]

True.

Perhaps we should start a new thread,

"Aspirations, Hopes and Dreams for 2011."

Or something like that? :D

yes.. that would be nice.. then we could use a thread about Klinsmann to talk about Klinsmann and the things he does. :)

[ArmenJBX]

So like...what kinda guy are we dealing with here anyways?

I didn't really watch Germany in 2006, so are we dealing with a heavy defense guy like Preki, or an offensive minded guy? What kind of tactics does Klismann like to employ?

[ensco]

So like...what kinda guy are we dealing with here anyways?

I didn't really watch Germany in 2006, so are we dealing with a heavy defense guy like Preki, or an offensive minded guy? What kind of tactics does Klismann like to employ?

He's no Preki. He preaches attacking football.

But a lot of his Bayern players didn't think he could coach tactics at the elite level.

[Darlofletch]

He's no Preki. He preaches attacking football.

But a lot of his Bayern players didn't think he could coach tactics at the elite level.

yeah, I'm much happier for him to be the vision guy at the top than the day to day nuts and bolts coach. hopefully he can help get the right guys in for that side of things.

[Darlofletch]

No matter what happens this year, I do not expect results next year. If I see a real plan I will be happy and I think is more important to set us up to become perennial contenders.

That being said, with the parity in the league, it should be possible to go from the hot mess we have had this year to a playoff team with the proper people in place. Although it does get harder every year...

fully agree with this, let's not throw everything away if we don't get instant results.

I don't think mlse is exepcting results immediately either, for me that's what the 2012 price freeze is about, not so much an apology for wat's already happened, but a pre-emptive bargaining chip if they have to plead for patience with the fans next year. If that is the case, and they're willing to give the new regime a bit of time, I applaud them for that.

[CretanBull]

A fair point Scott, as it JonO's on the previous page. But a name, however credible, is just that. I'm not going to get too excited until there's a strategy put in place and it starts to pay dividends.

In some ways its a watershed moment though...a club that has done almost everything wrong has recognized that and hired someone to make their decisions for them.

[ArmenJBX]

LOL, the cycle continues.

There is NO reason we cannot do like Red Bulls and completely overhaul, and get the results in the same season.

Do not give them a pardon for failure. WE NEED TO WIN SOMETHING next season. We need to AT LEAST make playoffs. Anything less and this team is officially done.

[Darlofletch]

LOL, the cycle continues.

There is NO reason we cannot do like Red Bulls and completely overhaul, and get the results in the same season.

Do not give them a pardon for failure. WE NEED TO WIN SOMETHING next season. We need to AT LEAST make playoffs. Anything less and this team is officially done.

lol.

agreed there's no reason we can't get results next year, all I'm saying is if we don't, but we can see progress is being made, hopefully we don't flip out again, and completely start over again, again. to say the team is officially done is just ridiculous.

[Shakes McQueen]

Once again excellent timing with 'big news' . MLSE is a mster of coming up with big announcement just before renewal time.

How long would you like them to wait, before they start the search for new management?

- Scott

[CretanBull]

There is NO reason we cannot do like Red Bulls and completely overhaul, and get the results in the same season.

It's theoretically possible, but I'm going to bet against MLSE dropping $12 million on DPs.

[Shakes McQueen]

It's theoretically possible, but I'm going to bet against MLSE dropping $12 million on DPs.

I'm going to bet against TFC having two guys of their calibre fall into their lap in the first place. New York City benefits from being a huge international brand.

- Scott

[ensco]

Not sure what it would mean to have him in a leadership position.

One interesting thing is that, from the outside, Klinsmann has repeated criticized the US system because it doesn't have enough hungry street kids in it - kids in North America all come through organized leagues that you pay to play in, and, to him, it shows on the field. No one would disagree. But given the cap, MLS is kind of stuck with NCAA players as the backbone of the system.

But, as a for instance, Klinsy might have the ability to open the door for the kind of relationships that the Galaxy and Dallas have in South America.

Problem is, executing that stuff is really hard work. You have to personally spend lots of time down there, and maybe have someone you trust down there permanently, to make it work.

Does Klinsy have those relationships in place, so that he could get some follow through after he has flown down and made introductions? Will he spend the time on the follow through to make it happen?

Put another way, whatever course he follows, is he willing to roll up up sleeves and commit himself and his reputation to this? Or will he just dabble from California?

That's the $64K question. It's why I'm rooting for this to be strictly a consulting gig, for now. Let's get to know each other better.

[ArmenJBX]

MLSE drops 12 million wiping Dion Phaneufs ass.

If they don't have 12 million to spend on us, we need new owners.

[razor787]

They also get more money from tics. Like shakes said, the big players don't want to come here. It is a nice city, but its no new York or LA. Hell Montreal could even get some DPs from the French league before we attract a good DP here.

[CretanBull]

MLSE drops 12 million wiping Dion Phaneufs ass.

If they don't have 12 million to spend on us, we need new owners.

Of course they have it, but (from their perspective) why would they spend it when they don't need to? I'm sure that they'll look to bring in a big name DP ($2-3 million) but if you think that they're going to bring in two guys in the $5-6 million range then this is going to be a disappointing off season for you.

[ensco]

MLSE drops 12 million wiping Dion Phaneufs ass.

If they don't have 12 million to spend on us, we need new owners.


No. The Leafs have at least 10x the revenues of TFC.


(I don't even know why I'm responding to this inane statement. I've got to find something else to do. See ya.)

[Shakes McQueen]

They also get more money from tics. Like shakes said, the big players don't want to come here. It is a nice city, but its no new York or LA. Hell Montreal could even get some DPs from the French league before we attract a good DP here.

That's a good point too. Montreal has a unique relationship with France, and for a French player reaching the end of his world-class days, Montreal offers one last big payday, in one of the only other French speaking areas in the world with a professional soccer team that offers players big salaries like that.

- Scott

[ArmenJBX]

See, that's the problem. We may have the biggest ownership group in the league, but in reality, we also have the one that probably cares the least about the squad.

You shouldn't be FORCED to spend 12 Million on your team, you should WANT to spend it. I mean, is the current structure correct? They have an enormous amount of money, but only spend it when we, the fans, are pissed. A good, winning ownership group should constantly be looking to buy players of the highest quality possible.

They shouldn't spend money because people are pissed off, and thus damage control is necessary. They should spend money on this squad because they have it and it will make the team better. This is exactly what I'm talking about, in terms of the fundamental difference between our team and every other team in the league. If FC Dallas had the money we have, you can bet your ass they'd spend it on FC Dallas. We have been blessed with an incredibly wealthy ownership group, yet cursed by the same group, who doesn't go out and look for opportunities to better their product. That, my friends, is what it ultimately comes down to.

There is absolutely no reason you cannot sign the likes of Raul or Van Nistelrooy, even if they JUST signed contracts with their teams. MLSE has hundreds of millions of dollars, and if you knock on Schalke's door, and leave them a nice, 40 million dollar cheque, as well as offering to pay some or all the break clause fee, you can bet Shalke would at least consider the possibility. Instead, our morons upstairs look at their humongous bank accounts and laugh with greed, only signing players like JDG and Mista. These are not good enough, especially for MLSE.

[razor787]

That's a good point too. Montreal has a unique relationship with France, and for a French player reaching the end of his world-class days, Montreal offers one last big payday, in one of the only other French speaking areas in the world with a professional soccer team that offers players big salaries like that.

- Scott

Exactly. Montreal, when they reach the MLS, will be the first place that fading French stars go. If they are willing to put out the money, they can get players of the same quality as LA or NY.

[CretanBull]

That's a good point too. Montreal has a unique relationship with France, and for a French player reaching the end of his world-class days, Montreal offers one last big payday, in one of the only other French speaking areas in the world with a professional soccer team that offers players big salaries like that.


It's a somewhat valid point, but I'm not sure if language is a major barrier...most top French players end up in England, Spain, Italy etc. I'm sure that they'd prefer to play in a French-speaking city, but I think at the end of the day money talks and if Kansas City offer more money than Montreal then they'll be happy to adapt to life in Missouri.

In contradiction to my own point, Montreal is the most European city in North America and could just as easily appeal to Italians (huge Italian community there, Italian owners) or any other non-English speaking European who want to live somewhere that's a little less foreign (than say, Kansas City).

[CretanBull]

A good, winning ownership group should constantly be looking to buy players of the highest quality possible.

But that's not what we have. We have an investment group looking for a return on their investment. They'll spend $12 million if it will generate a return of $12m+, but they won't spend $1000 to "win" if winning doesn't offer a return on their investment (it does of course, I'm just using an absurd example to illustrate the point).

[rocker]

Craig Forrest just said on Soccer Central that these guys have expressed interest in TFC... guess Klinsy will be interviewing some of them:

roberto donadoni
franco baresi
iain dowie
carlos quieroz

Forrest also said Klinsmann will not be relocating permanently, so he's not going to be more than a consultant.

[denime]

Once again excellent timing with 'big news' . MLSE is a mster of coming up with big announcement just before renewal time.

Well renewal time just finished last Monday,this was more like "for all of you that did not renew":prrr: from your beloved ML$E.

If they did announce this before Oct22 many people here would comment how they did it before renewal due date just to get more sales.:facepalm:

However this is what Klinsman did during his time as Galaxy consultant.


In his consultant role as Galaxy Technical Advisor, Klinsmann will spend significant time on site at The Home Depot Center, home of the club, through the 2004 season. He will attend and participate in evaluation and planning sessions, coaches meetings, training sessions, and individual player meetings in order to provide Galaxy coaches and players with insights gained from his successful experiences at the highest levels of international soccer.“

In addition to providing services directly to the Galaxy coaching staff and players, SoccerSolutions, under Klinsmann’s direction, will also be engaged by the team for assistance with international player exchanges, exhibition games with foreign clubs, overseas training opportunities, and other international matters.

I do expect something similar to be with TFC too.

[guelphguy1965]

I am not saying they should they should wait for the search. I am questioning the timing of announcement.



How long would you like them to wait, before they start the search for new management?

- Scott

[guelphguy1965]

I received a letter(one day before announcement) telling me I can buy more seasont tickets later. Very interesting.I am just a pessimist I guess.

[King Jeff]

iain dowie


Oh God, please no.

[prizby]

It's theoretically possible, but I'm going to bet against MLSE dropping $12 million on DPs.

I'd like to see us do well without DPs and build the team around our stars right now that will compliment them and when there are more people out of contract come July, that is when we put the finishing pieces together - NYRB did that real well this year

[torontocelt]

There is absolutely no reason you cannot sign the likes of Raul or Van Nistelrooy, even if they JUST signed contracts with their teams. MLSE has hundreds of millions of dollars, and if you knock on Schalke's door, and leave them a nice, 40 million dollar cheque, as well as offering to pay some or all the break clause fee, you can bet Shalke would at least consider the possibility.

If someone were to offer Schalke 40 million dollars then they would bite their hand off, however the person offering it would probably be put in an insane asylum soon after.

[ArmenJBX]

Well we can't sign them normally, because apparently no one wants to play here, so in order to get top talent, we gotta spend the dough :D

[prizby]

doesn't the mls have a no transfer fee paid policy?

[ArmenJBX]

No way...

Seriously?

[prizby]

pretty sure its part of their "being financially responsible"

[Auzzy]

MLS has definitely allowed transfer fees for players before. There's a bunch of info on Google about previous transfer fees. Not sure how those fees are paid & counted against the cap -- don't they have to be paid from allocation money?

There's also a quote from earlier this year, from MLS VP Durbin, that transfer fees specifically CAN be paid for DPs. What I don't know: since most of the DP salary is paid outside of cap, can part/all of a DP transfer fee also be paid w/o using up cap or allocation money??? http://www.nypostonline.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/mls_todd_durbin_talks_dps_reserve_SXlB7DkPRP6AAEVC GGqPQM (http://www.nypostonline.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/mls_todd_durbin_talks_dps_reserve_SXlB7DkPRP6AAEVC GGqPQM)

[JamboAl]

Iain Dowie? Threw up when I saw that. I'd rather have Preki and Mo Johnston back. No proven success and all he does well is Powerpoint presentations (that's apparently how he got the Charlton job when Curbishley left).

[moralis]

Gerry Dobson article Dobson on TFC:The Candidates

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2010/10/30/dobson_candidates/

[twistedchinaman]

MLSE drops 12 million wiping Dion Phaneufs ass.

:lol: Oh...man alive. Best thing I've read all night. :D It's funny because it's so damn true.

[twistedchinaman]

Oh God, please no.

+1...

[JonO]

MLS has definitely allowed transfer fees for players before. There's a bunch of info on Google about previous transfer fees. Not sure how those fees are paid & counted against the cap -- don't they have to be paid from allocation money?

There's also a quote from earlier this year, from MLS VP Durbin, that transfer fees specifically CAN be paid for DPs. What I don't know: since most of the DP salary is paid outside of cap, can part/all of a DP transfer fee also be paid w/o using up cap or allocation money??? http://www.nypostonline.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/mls_todd_durbin_talks_dps_reserve_SXlB7DkPRP6AAEVC GGqPQM (http://www.nypostonline.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/mls_todd_durbin_talks_dps_reserve_SXlB7DkPRP6AAEVC GGqPQM)
Man I wish this league would simplify some of their rules. No one seems to understand the transfer fee (you get 5 different stories from 5 different people). Also, that article suggests that there was a transfer fee for Henry, but I thought I remember reading he was let go for free??

[jloome]

No. The Leafs have at least 10x the revenues of TFC.


(I don't even know why I'm responding to this inane statement. I've got to find something else to do. See ya.)

If folk got you down, I recommend writing, video games and pot.

Best time-killers of all time. Even beats marriage.

[CretanBull]

The MLS has a no-transfer fee policy, but like all of their rules they're subject to change on a whim.

[ManUtd4ever]

If folk got you down, I recommend writing, video games and pot.

Best time-killers of all time. Even beats marriage.

LOL! :thumbsup:

[hrvat87]

guys if Klinsmann does come to Toronto Fc...his job wont be manager,or Coach.....so basicallly hes coming to toronto just to collect $$$$$$$$$....I dont know what exactly his job will be if hes not manager or coach....personally i think MLSE just wants to bring Klinsmann to toronto to attract new fans,and existing fans....

[billyfly]

You mean this kind of beer?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/german_beer_girl_costumes.jpg


Having some Hofbrau Munchen right now waiting for the kiddies to start ringing tha door.

[Auzzy]

^ I hope you're going to be fair & serve them all some? Or at least their parents? ;)

[Oldtimer]

Interesting article mentioned on the U-Sector site.

Klinsmann describes his philosophy:


We eventually decided to go down an attack-minded route, passing the ball on the ground from the back to the front line as quickly as possible using dynamic football.
What we ended up with amounted to 10 or 12 bullet points laying out our proposals. We then announced that it was our intention to play a fast-paced game, an attacking game and a proactive game.
That last term was something the Germans did not really like because they did not really understand what proactive meant. We just told them it meant we did not react to what our opponents did, we played the way that was right for us.
Once we had done all that, we created a curriculum for German football and presented it to the Bundesliga and DFB boards.

I was happy because, as a former striker, I liked the style we intended to play. I could never coach a team that played defensive-minded football. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8789682.stm

My comments:

This is great to read. It should give a much more interesting, dynamic game.

It might make JDG a more useful player in such a system.

[billyfly]

^ I hope you're going to be fair & serve them all some? Or at least their parents? ;)


I gave HOT cider instead and kept the German brew for myself.

[Beach_Red]

I gave HOT cider instead and kept the German brew for myself.

One of my kids was going through the stuff he got and found two Marlies tickets.

[billyfly]

^LOL...That's gold.

[Auzzy]

One of my kids was going through the stuff he got and found two Marlies tickets.

Wow, that's worse than apples with razor blades... :D

[Oldtimer]

One of my kids was going through the stuff he got and found two Marlies tickets.

Pretty bad when 2 Marlies tickets are worth less than a chocolate bar! Did your kid cry?