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denime
09-30-2010, 05:13 AM
Mornin'



Reds 'Going For It' In Seattle (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/09/reds-going-it-seattle)


It's Been Done Before (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/09/its-been-done)


Captain's Passion Remains (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/09/captains-passion-remains)


Minor details cost TFC (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/soccer/james-on-soccer/minor-details-cost-tfc/article1732112/)


USA TODAY-Toronto's Dwayne De Rosario scores no points with gesture (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/mls/toronto-fc/2010-09-29-dwayne-de-rosario-salary-gesture_N.htm)


CSA rips MLS clubs over Canadian content (http://www.canada.com/sports/soccer/rips+clubs+over+Canadian+content/3599801/story.html)



SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshinegirl/)

sidvan
09-30-2010, 05:28 AM
mornin' d and thanks again for this

CSA now blaiming MLS for their failure to develop Canadian players? Gimme a break! Sack the CSA!

razor787
09-30-2010, 06:45 AM
It didn't blame mls for it, it said that it was going to hinder progress, and that it's not why they tried getting Canadian teams in. He is right. If there wasnt going to be the Canadian quota, the CSA may not have cared about putting a team in.

If we don't have to carry Canadian players anymore, we won't get them better. Other teams wont take them unless they are above standard players, and Canadian players seem to either be a little weak for the MLS or better than it. The talent pool for the skill level, with the salary cap is restricting who even the Canadian teams will want to sign. With this happening, we will likely be putting canadians on the release list for Vancouver/Portland, whereas before they would have been seen as very valuable.

keem-o-sabi
09-30-2010, 06:55 AM
coed girls 1 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/09/27/miss-coed-jennifer-tinney/) and 2 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/09/11/miss-coed-brandi-hofmeister/)

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Fort York Redcoat
09-30-2010, 07:09 AM
It didn't blame mls for it, it said that it was going to hinder progress, and that it's not why they tried getting Canadian teams in. He is right. If there wasnt going to be the Canadian quota, the CSA may not have cared about putting a team in.

If we don't have to carry Canadian players anymore, we won't get them better. Other teams wont take them unless they are above standard players, and Canadian players seem to either be a little weak for the MLS or better than it. The talent pool for the skill level, with the salary cap is restricting who even the Canadian teams will want to sign. With this happening, we will likely be putting canadians on the release list for Vancouver/Portland, whereas before they would have been seen as very valuable.

The CSA looks as though they're passing the buck. I know what was proposed:

"...at the end of the day, their No. 1 priority is to put a winning team on the field, regardless of where the players come from."

-Welcome to the rest of the world.

We should be looking to the CSA and academies to be training these kids and for the CSA to say that they wouldn't have supported MLS any other way makes tem seem even more mickey mouse than this league.

What message are they trying to send?

CSA stands pat with CSL. Snubs MLS.

ridiculous

Lucky Strike
09-30-2010, 07:35 AM
CSA rips MLS clubs over Canadian content (http://www.canada.com/sports/soccer/rips+clubs+over+Canadian+content/3599801/story.html)



I think for me the bigger problem showcased in this article is the concept of "territory" between Vancouver Residency and TFC Academy. It may be sporting and gentlemanly-like, but it removes a lot of the incentive to go out there and make the next "find", thereby doing no favour to the development of Canadian football.

I'm not aware if it works like this throughout the world but it doesn't seem to be the most efficient set of circumstances if the idea is to develop young talent.

Sure, it prevents an arms race and helps keep costs down, but with only three professional clubs in the whole of Canada, you have to figure that's not really a concern at the moment.

Stouffville_RPB
09-30-2010, 07:49 AM
Sure, it prevents an arms race and helps keep costs down, but with only three professional clubs in the whole of Canada, you have to figure that's not really a concern at the moment.

Exactly. With a population of 30 million how can 1 academy hoard all the talent?

Do what has to be done to develop as much top talent as possible.

menefreghista
09-30-2010, 07:51 AM
Nice to see the CSA grow some balls.

I would like to see the rule be Canadians and Americans counted as domestics league wide. Otherwise the proposed rule is unacceptable.

Parkdale
09-30-2010, 07:54 AM
USA today is doing an article about a canadian player on a canadian team? wow!

scooter
09-30-2010, 08:04 AM
mornin d

csa once again is a joke----develop canadain players and mls clubs will scoop them up IF THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH --lets not have another cbc content law so underacheivers are rewarded for shite

Oldtimer
09-30-2010, 08:11 AM
Fan 590 Interview with D$Ro from yesterday.

He discusses (and apologizes for) the "incident," coaching, and other issues:

http://www.fan590.com/ondemand/media.jsp?content=20100929_140337_9388

menefreghista
09-30-2010, 08:11 AM
Pretty much nowhere else in the world does the FA develop its players. Its the clubs that do it.

But everyone wants TFC to be good so bad that they miss the point completely.

The proposed rule is bullshit because it favours Americans over foreigners.

scooter
09-30-2010, 08:33 AM
all rules are bullshit when it comes to players

players should be selected based on playing ability period

menefreghista
09-30-2010, 09:00 AM
all rules are bullshit when it comes to players

players should be selected based on playing ability period

While this is true, there isn't a single soccer league in the world that is restriction free.

scooter
09-30-2010, 09:22 AM
is the article in usa today acurate ?

we are paying mista 987,000 bucks -- just proves mlse is fookin nuts

Stouffville_RPB
09-30-2010, 09:29 AM
The proposed rule is bullshit because it favours Americans over foreigners.

It's an American league. It isn't the responsibility of the USSF to develop Canadians and there is no benefit to USSF in doing so. If the CSA is so worried about the development of Canadians it should do more than just whine about the lack of Canadian emphasis in an American league.


is the article in usa today acurate ?

we are paying mista 987,000 bucks -- just proves mlse is fookin nuts

Yes, it is correct.

scooter
09-30-2010, 09:40 AM
mista and jdg got to go what a joke 987,000 + 1.7 million ---for what sub par performance -- they must both be laughing behind mlse's backs

no wonder our seats are going up

dp money is more than our whole teams salary ????

Technorgasm
09-30-2010, 09:47 AM
and this on the eve when MLS abolish teh home grown rule (or at least waken the canadian content rules)

I knew that would hurt us.

Brooker
09-30-2010, 09:52 AM
Fan 590 Interview with D$Ro from yesterday.

He discusses (and apologizes for) the "incident," coaching, and other issues:

http://www.fan590.com/ondemand/media.jsp?content=20100929_140337_9388

danke

Roogsy
09-30-2010, 10:04 AM
USA TODAY-Toronto's Dwayne De Rosario scores no points with gesture (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/mls/toronto-fc/2010-09-29-dwayne-de-rosario-salary-gesture_N.htm)



Interestingly DeRo is leading the MLS MVP poll on that particular USA Today article at 43%.

Darlofletch
09-30-2010, 10:12 AM
"going for it" in seattle? I should hope so. give the travelling fans some entertainment. I'm not in the "entertainment is more important than winning" camp, but now we're out, why the fuck not, let's go for it and lose 4-3.

re travelling fans, i know there's a few people going to seattle, is anyone else going to be at the chivas game?

Redcoe15
09-30-2010, 10:13 AM
The CSA needs to get its own house in order first before they start criticizing Canadian based MLS clubs on developing talent. I'm thinking the three teams will do a better job down the road in producing Canadian talent than the bedshitters at the CSA can ever hope they can accomplish.

keem-o-sabi
09-30-2010, 10:23 AM
the provinces are the power bases in Canada are they not?

The CSA has tried to implement a system down to the provincial associations and I know that Ontario has said screw it we're doing it our way anyway.

2 of my mates went to take their provincial B's a few weeks ago. The CSA has stated we want to start developing players to play in this sort of system (433), the OSA Coaching staff said screw it, we don't believe a 433 is going to work, so we're going to go over the way you should coach a 442. This is from the former head of Coaching in the OSA who still runs the OSA Coaching courses......

Yes the CSA has a lot of the blame at their feet, but the way the structure is here, you have the provinces doing whatever the hell they want and you have the leagues in each district doing as they see fit as well. There is no connection from League to District to province to nat'l Fed.

And this is professional soccer, sink or swim. So the boys have to improve.

Commie Red
09-30-2010, 10:33 AM
all rules are bullshit when it comes to players

players should be selected based on playing ability period

But that is not what this rule change achieves. It is much worse than a domestic player quota (whether you support that idea or not). Now we have the absurdity of two Canadian teams (soon to be three) essentially adopting a foreign player quota to support and develop another country's players. I can't even believe this is legal.


It's an American league.

You mean, it was an American league. As soon as they voted to allow us in, it became a two nation league. Albeit, it is now a two nation league being used to develop, promote and support one nation's talent.

Stouffville_RPB
09-30-2010, 10:48 AM
You mean, it was an American league. As soon as they voted to allow us in, it became a two nation league. Albeit, it is now a two nation league being used to develop, promote and support one nation's talent.

No it is still an American league. MLS is overseen by USSF and the CSA has absolutely no say in how the league is run. Until that changes it is an American league with a couple Canadian teams.

scooterTFC
09-30-2010, 03:14 PM
CSA and Canadian MLS clubs need to get aligned on this issue for the good of the game in Canada. All three Canadian clubs have shown a willingness to invest in domestic player development (Vancouver more than the others). Its understandable that in the short term, the Canadian clubs are looking to trying to get access to broader and deeper talent pool - right now the Canadian talent pool lacks depth.

The obvious options are:
1. Protected Canadian roster spots on Canadian MLS teams
2. Absolutely no domestic status or protection for Canadian players on any MLS teams
3. Canadians count as domestic players on all MLS teams


The MLS is obviously influenced heavily by the USSF. The USSF is clearly not interested in Canadian player development concerns, in fact they've been leaning towards an anti-Canadain protectionist stance lately (witness the USSF ruling requiring higher % of US cities for future D2 leagues).

The MLS is primarily interested in the financial opportunity in Canada - Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto are looking like they will be three of the most profitable markets in the MLS. The finacial opportunity in Canada is important for the MLS - make no mistake, the league needs our money. The CSA needs to use that as leverage to adovcate for broader Canadian player development benefits from the MLS. Ideally that would be Canadians counting as domestic players on all MLS teams.

The smart play for the CSA is to get aligned with the Canadian MLS clubs use them as leverage to extract concession from the league. The clubs are going to favour a solution that opens up the league to Canadians as it takes some burden off them in the short term.

sidvan
09-30-2010, 07:18 PM
Maicon Should Be Fit For Saturday



Luke Wileman
TorontoFC.ca
September 30, 2010





http://www.theaircanadacentre.com/assets/default/NewWilemanReports.JPG
Toronto FC’s squad headed to Seattle on Thursday afternoon after training at Cherry Beach earlier in the day.

Striker Maicon Santos trained on Thursday and should be fit enough to be included in the squad for Saturday’s match against the Sounders. The Brazilian appears to have recovered from in the a knock to the head sustained in the goalless draw at home to Real Salt Lake in the CONCACAF Champions League on Tuesday.

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/09/maicon-should-be-fit-saturday


Fail!

TFC07
09-30-2010, 08:43 PM
This is why in the long term Canada needs its own first division soccer league to develop our players.

THA BUTCHA
09-30-2010, 10:29 PM
Denime, thanks for all the effort to dig up tic news everyday. I appreciate it.

But can I make a suggestion?

With all the calls for protest, I think something you should do is stop linking any tic news published by the TFC web site. Including their blogs.
Just by clicking on on those links we are all generating add renevue for them.

I think we can all agree that they have taken enough of our money.

Just a suggestion.

And thanks again