Today's News,Monday,Sep.27

[denime]

Mornin'



Barrett Wants Dasovic Stay (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/09/barrett-wants-dasovic-stay)


Toronto FC needs urgent upgrade (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/nigelreed/2010/09/toronto-fc-needs-urgent-upgrade.html)


TFC pay the price (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/soccer/james-on-soccer/tfc-pay-the-price/article1726819/)


DeRosario’s move raises questions (http://www.metronews.ca/edmonton/sports/article/646013--derosario-s-move-raises-questions)



SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshinegirl/)

[ochos]

Great article by Paul James - hard to argue with him at all. I think we've reached a new low at this organization.. time to take a long, hard think to the matter

[DichioTFC]

Love the Nigel Reed article, we're lucky to have him commenting on TFC issues.

Also agree with Paul James, it'll be interesting to hear Daso's reaction to the DeRo issue. It's unfortunate that his leadership is being tested literally days into his tenure. I doubt he'll rock the boat on this one, but I really wish he would.

[keem-o-sabi]

coed ladies 1 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/09/26/miss-coed-sarah-stage/) and 2 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/09/09/miss-coed-frederica-fontana/)

Also RPB Indoor League info is now out in the RPB section of the board. If you want to play or want to form a team please send me a PM asap!!!

[menefreghista]

Love the Nigel Reed article, we're lucky to have him commenting on TFC issues.

Its a good piece. I like how he takes time to mention the season ticket price increase and he touches the issue of empty seats as well. Calling out the FO for the 'announced' attendance.

[scooter]

mornin d

[Darlofletch]

Agree with a lot of that Paul James article, especially about patience, and getting good system in then adding in players to open it up and be more offensive

My thoughts on de ro's leadership skills.

Less stevie G, more Stevie Y please (http://www.cruelgeography.com/2010/09/less-stevie-g-more-stevie-y-please.html)

[MG42]

Daso was interviewed by Krystal and Dunleavy on Fan590 this morning...at the end of the interview Krystal asked why a non-soccer fan should go to a game, Daso's main answer...the atmosphere lol...supporters are still getting whored out to sell tickets

[DichioTFC]

Agree with a lot of that Paul James article, especially about patience, and getting good system in then adding in players to open it up and be more offensive

My thoughts on de ro's leadership skills.

Less stevie G, more Stevie Y please (http://www.cruelgeography.com/2010/09/less-stevie-g-more-stevie-y-please.html)

Love the blog. Can't see DeRo ever reaching Stevie Y's leadership ability. DeRo is 32 and has *never* been a captain anywhere he's been. Never been an assistant captain that I know of.

Our greatest need is a leader and a captain. Someone who is a natural leader. Stevie Y was 21 when he was named captain and played 1300 games as captain without issue. DeRo had contract issues in Houston, complained on TV last year about his salary and complained *in-game* about his salary while he's the captain.

[DichioTFC]

Daso was interviewed by Krystal and Dunleavy on Fan590 this morning...at the end of the interview Krystal asked why a non-soccer fan should go to a game, Daso's main answer...the atmosphere lol...supporters are still getting whored out to sell tickets

Missed the interview, what else did Daso say?

[ManUtd4ever]

http://www.fan590.com/media.jsp?content=20100927_084321_6076

Daso responds to the disappointing loss to SJ and "The Gesture"...

[DangerRed]

The last line in the Nigel article says it all.

The ticket price increase is especially galling since this team is being blown up once again in a few weeks and next season, we'll be watching an expansion team play at BMO. In the supporters' case, they'll be paying 77% more than they did in Year 1 for the privilege.

[ManUtd4ever]

So apparently, Daso did not notice DeRo's goal celebration during the match. Daso indicated that it was discussed by the coaching staff after the game. He also mentioned that he would be discussing the issue with DeRo this morning and the matter will be dealt with internally. Fair enough.

At this point, the need for damage control on the public relations front is critical. It will be very interesting to see if DeRo issues a public statement to address the negative backlash from fans and media alike...

[lips]

Mornin

[menefreghista]

At this point, the need for damage control on the public relations front is critical. It will be very interesting to see if DeRo issues a public statement to address the negative backlash from fans and media alike...

I wonder if the club even cares. The goal celebration incident has taken some of the heat off the club for its season ticket price increases.

[bingobob]

"What kind of captain, as his team crashes out of the playoff contention for a fourth straight year, demands a pay raise?"

This team is poison. From top to bottom.

There is no quick fix...however, I do feel that perhaps the captain must go.

Either that - or most of the team around him...much like a coach, a captain can "lose the room"...and with that simple gesture, I would wager Dero, lost a lot of the room...if he had any of it to begin with.

:facepalm:

[ManUtd4ever]

I wonder if the club even cares. The goal celebration incident has taken some of the heat off the club for its season ticket price increases.

I'm not sure about that. If anything, it has added fuel to the fire. I personally don't think the gesture in of itself was a big deal but the timing couldn't have been worse. In an ideal scenario, DeRo will issue a public statement acknowledging that he made an error in judgement and that the supporters in Toronto deserve better...

[DichioTFC]

So apparently, Daso did not notice DeRo's goal celebration during the match. Daso indicated that it was discussed by the coaching staff after the game. He also mentioned that he would be discussing the issue with DeRo this morning and the matter will be dealt with internally. Fair enough.

At this point, the need for damage control on the public relations front is critical. It will be very interesting to see if DeRo issues a public statement to address the negative backlash from fans and media alike...

Thanks for the link.

I've never heard Andrew Krystal before and I hope I never hear him again, what a douchebag.

Good on Dunleavy to discuss strikers missing the net and bringing up the DeRo gesture.

I'm glad Daso will be addressing it internally (its pretty much the least we could ask for), but it doesn't appear as though he'll be stripping DeRo of the armband, which is what I would prefer.

[DichioTFC]

I'm not sure about that. If anything, it has added fuel to the fire. I personally don't think the gesture in of itself was a big deal but the timing couldn't have been worse. In an ideal scenario, DeRo will issue a public statement acknowledging that he made an error in judgement and that the supporters in Toronto deserve better...

I doubt DeRo will do that, especially since he 1. affirmed it in CBC after the match and 2. posted the news links on his facebook and twitter feeds, as though he's proud of his actions.

[ManUtd4ever]

Thanks for the link.

I've never heard Andrew Krystal before and I hope I never hear him again, what a douchebag.

Good on Dunleavy to discuss strikers missing the net and bringing up the DeRo gesture.

I'm glad Daso will be addressing it internally (its pretty much the least we could ask for), but it doesn't appear as though he'll be stripping DeRo of the armband, which is what I would prefer.

I think stripping DeRo of the armband would be an extreme reaction to the incident and ultimately lead to more controversy. The only way to diffuse the situation is if he issues a public statement. TFC is playing a meaningful game tomorrow and if they hope to salvage anything at all from this clusterfuck of a season the club has to move past this incident as quickly and painlessly as possible...

[DichioTFC]

I think stripping DeRo of the armband would be an extreme reaction to the incident and ultimately lead to more controversy. The only way to diffuse the situation is if he issues a public statement. TFC is playing a meaningful game tomorrow and if they hope to salvage anything at all from this clusterfuck of a season the club has to move past this incident as quickly and painlessly as possible...

Yeah, I tend to agree with you on this point. The last thing we need is yet another unnecessary distraction. It'll probably get swept under the rug with DeRo playing a low profile on TFC TV and other public appearances.

We'll never know if it happens, but I hope DeRo gives his teammates an apology in the locker room. They truly deserve it.

[Detroit_TFC]

I imagine the coaches will observe the other players reactions and that will provide the evidence for if they need to change captain or not.

[Carts]

TV Ratings... 85,000...

Very low for a CBC National Game...

Carts...

[DichioTFC]

^ I would hope so, but Dasovic is playing his role for landing a long-term position so I can't see him rocking the boat too heavily on this.

[DichioTFC]

TV Ratings... 85,000...

Very low for a CBC National Game...

Carts...

Possible competition? NFL / CFL / MLB playoffs / NHL preseason?

[Nuvinho]

Possible competition? NFL / CFL / MLB playoffs / NHL preseason?

or the club is just playing shit...so why watch shit!

I watched shit on Saturday.

[menefreghista]

Possible competition? NFL / CFL / MLB playoffs / NHL preseason?

I don't think their was any direct competition from any of these.

It appears the TV viewers have tuned out the team the same way ticket holders have stopped showing up.

An interesting comparison comes from last season. In a must win game against RSL late last year, CBC actually had a ratings jump. This season a must win game gave CBC one of its worst ratings of the season. This season it looks like the fanbase gave up earlier.

[denime]

I have to say that P.James article today was very good.

few things stood up that I agree 100% with him:


It is where Frank Yallop over the past three years has been patient. After getting his team’s defensive stability in place during his first two seasons, San Jose now display more balanced attacking ability. The approach highlights the careless mistake in moving out Preki at absolutely the wrong time.
and this:


Wondolowski aside from showing real quality in the final third also displayed wonderful athleticism which includes terrific pace. And all for $48,000.
Meanwhile the main talking point of the game was TFC captain Dwayne DeRosario’s decision to imitate the writing of a check to the crowd illustrating his unhappiness at making $443,750 per season.
It will unfortunately go down in memory as an arrogant, selfish, and completely egotistical gesture which his teammates and fans have the right to feel bitterly disappointed about.

Dwayne DeRosario is an excellent player at the MLS level. There is no argument there. But at the same time he has proven to be a poor leader. Whether undermining former coaches Dale Mitchell (Canadian national team) or Preki he has shown that his football career is more about him than anybody or anything else. His actions and comments confirm the point. I think we should let him go,sometimes getting rid of a star player makes the team better.I have a feeling now it obvious who is the poison in the change room.

I would like to see who in MLS will pay him 400K.

[DichioTFC]

I don't think their was any direct competition from any of these.

It appears the TV viewers have tuned out the team the same way ticket holders have stopped showing up.

An interesting comparison comes from last season. In a must win game against RSL late last year, CBC actually had a ratings jump. This season a must win game gave CBC one of its worst ratings of the season. This season it looks like the fanbase gave up earlier.

I would be interested to see a figure comparison to last year's ratings at this time. The playoffs were more likely for TFC last year, hence greater viewership. I think the fans all knew before the SJ game that the playoffs werent going to happen.

[menefreghista]

I think the fans all knew before the SJ game that the playoffs werent going to happen.

This is true. And its possible that some turned it off after it was 1-0 for San Jose.

That's what 4 years of pessimism does to a person.

[DichioTFC]

I have to say that P.James article today was very good.

few things stood up that I agree 100% with him:

and this:

I think we should let him go,sometimes getting rid of a star player makes the team better.I have a feeling now it obvious who is the poison in the change room.

I would like to see who in MLS will pay him 400K.

There may be truth in your words. Look at how Seattle rebounded after getting rid of Freddie Ljungberg. They got absolutely nothing in return (third rounder) for a notorious cancer, and they came back to leap us in the standings and will likely take the 8th playoff spot.

Still, I'm not at the stage where I want DeRo gone. If he *does* go, it would have to be for something really good.

[DichioTFC]

That's what 40+ years of pessimism does to a Toronto fan.

/fixed :D

[menefreghista]

/fixed :D

LOL. We are masochists.

[TFCRegina]

I would be interested to see a figure comparison to last year's ratings at this time. The playoffs were more likely for TFC last year, hence greater viewership. I think the fans all knew before the SJ game that the playoffs werent going to happen.

I gave up on playoffs when we lost to DCU.

[Ryan1984]

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=335463

[andyc]

We'll never know if it happens, but I hope DeRo gives his teammates an apology in the locker room. They truly deserve it.

As long as Mista and JDG apologize to DeRo right after....

[CoachGT]

Anselmi was on the fan 590 at 5:45 this afternoon. Spoke about DeRo's actions (he hoped it was a mistake - the coaches were to talk to him about it today) and big bad Bob asked about MUFC at $79 per ticket and TFC at $90. Bob saying take the suckers for every penny. Anselmi saying that it is not a fair comparison.

Don't know if it got put on the fan site, but it was interesting to listen to.

[TFC Cityboy]

I would be interested to see a figure comparison to last year's ratings at this time. The playoffs were more likely for TFC last year, hence greater viewership. I think the fans all knew before the SJ game that the playoffs werent going to happen.
the more pessimistic/realistic knew it after we only came back from Chicago with a point. Julius James delivered the knockout blow, for my money.

[DichioTFC]

Anselmi was on the fan 590 at 5:45 this afternoon. Spoke about DeRo's actions (he hoped it was a mistake - the coaches were to talk to him about it today) and big bad Bob asked about MUFC at $79 per ticket and TFC at $90. Bob saying take the suckers for every penny. Anselmi saying that it is not a fair comparison.

Don't know if it got put on the fan site, but it was interesting to listen to.


Here's the link to Anselmi's actual interview on the Fan 590:
http://www.fan590.com/media.jsp?content=20100927_191508_6920

Apparently Dero's agent has already asked Anselmi to renegotiate last week, but Anselmi told him to wait until the end of the season.
Here's the link

[DichioTFC]

the more pessimistic/realistic knew it after we only came back from Chicago with a point. Julius James delivered the knockout blow, for my money.


I gave up on playoffs when we lost to DCU.

For me it was the week we lost to the NYRB at home and away. If we got those 6 points, we would've been in the driver's seat (second in the east) and could've played Prekiball for the rest of the schedule.

Even if the results had remained the same since then and we got 6 from NYRB, the East would be like this right now:

Columbus 44pts 25GP
NYRB 38pts 26GP
TFC 37pts 25GP
:facepalm:

[TFCRegina]

For me it was the week we lost to the NYRB at home and away. If we got those 6 points, we would've been in the driver's seat (second in the east) and could've played Prekiball for the rest of the schedule.

Even if the results had remained the same since then and we got 6 from NYRB, the East would be like this right now:

Columbus 44pts 25GP
NYRB 38pts 26GP
TFC 37pts 25GP
:facepalm:

When we lost the home and home to NYRB, it didn't put us out. But it derailed everything. Nothing has gone right since.

DCU though was when we were hopeless.