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prizby
09-25-2010, 09:30 PM
I am wondering how people feel about how the team is worth. You are now the general manager and you have to work within the cap & allocation (about 3M) to give Toronto FC's players their EARNED salary this season. Remember that minimum salary is $40,000 and for the sakes of this exercise you cannot "release" anyone, you just give them $40,000. For the sake of the exercise, do not include Zack Herold as he is no longer on the roster :(

Here is what you will get off the players union:



TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Barrett Chad F $ 2 05,000.00 $ 212,500.00
TFC Cann Adrian D $ 5 6,592.00 $ 65,342.00
TFC Conway Jon GK $ 6 0,000.00 $ 69,833.33
TFC de Guzman Julian M $ 1 ,670,796.00 $ 1,717,546.00
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $ 3 75,000.00 $ 443,750.00
TFC Frei Stefan GK $ 8 0,000.00 $ 135,000.00
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Garcia Nick D $ 1 90,000.00 $ 198,750.00
TFC Gargan Daniel M $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $ 4 0,000.00 $ 45,600.00
TFC Harden Ty D $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Herold Zachary D $ 6 0,000.00 $ 109,166.67
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $ 1 14,000.00 $ 120,250.00
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $ 1 00,000.00 $ 133,000.00
TFC Joseph Nane M $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Kocic Milos GK $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $ 7 7,000.00 $ 79,500.00
TFC Martinez Miguel "Mista" F $ 9 68,736.00 $ 987,337.50
TFC Peterson Jacob F $ 1 25,000.00 $ 143,000.00
TFC Santos Maicon F $ 9 3,000.00 $ 93,000.00
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $ 4 0,000.00 $ 46,555.55
TFC Saric Martin M $ 9 0,000.00 $ 90,000.00
TFC Usanov Maxim D $ 9 6,000.00 $ 102,250.00
TFC White O'Brian F $ 1 05,000.00 $ 182,000.00TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $110,000
TFC Barrett Chad F $185,000
TFC Cann Adrian D $165,000
TFC Conway Jon GK $55,000
TFC de Guzman Julian M $335,000
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $525,000 (DP)
TFC Frei Stefan GK $225,000
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $40,000
TFC Garcia Nick D $75,000
TFC Gargan Daniel M $85,000
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $40,000
TFC Harden Ty D $60,000
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $62,000
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $40,000
TFC Joseph Nane M $40,000
TFC Kocic Milos GK $40,000
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $95,000
TFC Martinez Miguel "Mista" F $240,000
TFC Peterson Jacob F $63,000
TFC Santos Maicon F $68,000
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $66,000
TFC Saric Martin M $73,000
TFC Usanov Maxim D $67,000
TFC White O'Brian F $52,000

My total salary including DeRo as a DP is equal to $2,616,000. Salary paid out is equal to $2,816,000.

What would you pay our players for this season?

Toronto_Bhoy
09-25-2010, 09:35 PM
Too much math for me.

But I agree DeRo is DP and top pay earner.

TFCtoMUFC
09-25-2010, 09:42 PM
TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $125,000
TFC Barrett Chad F $185,000
TFC Cann Adrian D $175,000
TFC Conway Jon GK $55,000
TFC de Guzman Julian M $150,000
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $500,000 (DP)
TFC Frei Stefan GK $200,000
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $40,000
TFC Garcia Nick D $40,000 (Release)
TFC Gargan Daniel M $90,000
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $40,000
TFC Harden Ty D $70,000
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $62,000
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $40,000 (Trade)
TFC Joseph Nane M $40,000 (Trade)
TFC Kocic Milos GK $40,000
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $90,000
TFC Martinez Miguel "Mista" F $40,000 (Bye Bye)
TFC Peterson Jacob F $40,000 (Release)
TFC Santos Maicon F $90,000
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $66,000
TFC Saric Martin M $40,000 (Bye Bye)
TFC Usanov Maxim D $67,000
TFC White O'Brian F $52,000

mclaren
09-25-2010, 10:24 PM
TFC White O'Brian F $ 1 05,000.00 $ 182,000.00

wwwhhhaaattttt???

kdzb
09-26-2010, 01:21 PM
Without me as manager


Salaries this year Salaries next year
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TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Barrett Chad F $ 205,000.00 $ 212,500.00
TFC Cann Adrian D $ 56,592.00 $ 65,342.00
TFC Conway Jon GK $ 60,000.00 $ 69,833.33
TFC de Guzman Julian M $ 1,670,796.00 $ 1,717,546.00
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $ 375,000.00 $ 443,750.00
TFC Frei Stefan GK $ 80,000.00 $ 135,000.00
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Garcia Nick D $ 190,000.00 $ 198,750.00
TFC Gargan Daniel M $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $ 40,000.00 $ 45,600.00
TFC Harden Ty D $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $ 114,000.00 $ 120,250.00
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $ 100,000.00 $ 133,000.00
TFC Joseph Nane M $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Kocic Milos GK $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $ 77,000.00 $ 79,500.00
TFC Martinez Miguel "Mista" F $ 968,736.00 $ 987,337.50
TFC Peterson Jacob F $ 125,000.00 $ 143,000.00
TFC Santos Maicon F $ 93,000.00 $ 93,000.00
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $ 40,000.00 $ 46,555.55
TFC Saric Martin M $ 90,000.00 $ 90,000.00
TFC Usanov Maxim D $ 96,000.00 $ 102,250.00
TFC White O'Brian F $ 105,000.00 $ 182,000.00
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$ 4,726,124.00 $ 5,125,214.38

With me as manager & based on a fair analyses following the performances this season



Salaries this year Salaries next year Bonuses
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TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 40,000.00 $ 100,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Barrett Chad F $ 205,000.00 $ 180,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Cann Adrian D $ 56,592.00 $ 100,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Conway Jon GK $ 60,000.00 $ 69,833.33 + 5k / Clean Sheet
TFC de Guzman Julian M $ 1,670,796.00 $ 1,000,000.00 + 2k / Assist & 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $ 375,000.00 $ 750,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Frei Stefan GK $ 80,000.00 $ 180,000.00 + 5k / Clean Sheet
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $ 40,000.00 $ 50,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Garcia Nick D $ 190,000.00 $ 100,000.00 + 1k / Per game not played
TFC Gargan Daniel M $ 40,000.00 $ 80,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $ 40,000.00 $ 45,600.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Harden Ty D $ 40,000.00 $ 60,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $ 114,000.00 $ 60,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $ 100,000.00 $ 60,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Joseph Nane M $ 40,000.00 $ 60,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Kocic Milos GK $ 40,000.00 $ 40,000.00 + 5k / Clean Sheet
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $ 77,000.00 $ 80,500.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Martinez "Mista" F $ 968,736.00 $ 500,000.50 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Peterson Jacob F $ 125,000.00 $ 80,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Santos Maicon F $ 93,000.00 $ 130,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $ 40,000.00 $ 46,555.55 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Saric Martin M $ 90,000.00 $ 80,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC Usanov Maxim D $ 96,000.00 $ 60,000.00 + 2k / Clean Sheet
TFC White O'Brian F $ 105,000.00 $ 50,000.00 + 1k / Goal & + 2k / Assist
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$ 4,726,124.00 $ 3,962,488.88

Super
09-26-2010, 01:39 PM
We're not able to pay out bonuses - unless that money comes from the salary cap.

razor787
09-26-2010, 01:40 PM
TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $150,000 (on the high side, but may even go higher, just to renew his contract, as his transfer fee will be huge)
TFC Barrett Chad F $180,000
TFC Cann Adrian D $140,000
TFC Conway Jon GK $55,000 - Trade/Release and pickup a comparable Cdn keeper.
TFC de Guzman Julian M $1,500,000
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $600,000 (DP)
TFC Frei Stefan GK $260,000
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $40,000
TFC Garcia Nick D $40,000
TFC Gargan Daniel M $80,000
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $40,000
TFC Harden Ty D $65,000
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $58,000
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $40,000
TFC Joseph Nane M $40,000
TFC Kocic Milos GK $40,000
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $100,000
TFC Martinez Miguel "Mista" F $400,000 - I believe he will be successful once he has a preseason, and gets an understanding of English
TFC Peterson Jacob F $60,000
TFC Santos Maicon F $125,000
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $60,000
TFC Saric Martin M $60,000
TFC Usanov Maxim D $60,000
TFC White O'Brian F $45,000

Since most people would have their pay cut, it very unlikely that they would get a pay cut.

Carts
09-26-2010, 02:09 PM
Its easy where to start...

Buy out JDG - cut our losses on a failure...

Buy out Mista - he's not worth DP status or money....

Give Dero a raise, DP status, and a 3-year contract...

Find out Frei's long term thoughts & his worth overseas... If he wants to leave, and scouts/managers think he is good enough to leave, start getting the 3rd keeper some minutes - if we're gonna need him, we gotta groom him to be ready...

Nana - same thing as Frei. Find out his thoughts and worth overseas...

Sign a quality, DP striker to score!

Carts...

prizby
09-26-2010, 03:12 PM
Its easy where to start...

Buy out JDG - cut our losses on a failure...

Buy out Mista - he's not worth DP status or money....

Give Dero a raise, DP status, and a 3-year contract...

Find out Frei's long term thoughts & his worth overseas... If he wants to leave, and scouts/managers think he is good enough to leave, start getting the 3rd keeper some minutes - if we're gonna need him, we gotta groom him to be ready...

Nana - same thing as Frei. Find out his thoughts and worth overseas...

Sign a quality, DP striker to score!

Carts...

you really didn't read the first post, the last sentence?

What would you pay our players for this season?

TFC_Central
09-26-2010, 09:02 PM
chad barrett for 185k , for that $$ we could pick up a young pacy South American forward and a solid 150k defender.

prizby
09-27-2010, 08:01 AM
chad barrett for 185k , for that $$ we could pick up a young pacy South American forward and a solid 150k defender.

this season, TFC has had a much better record with Barrett in the lineup than without him in the lineup

Blowing Bubbles
09-27-2010, 08:37 AM
what about all the Gen Adidas guys and allocation? I like doing these fantasy manager things but it's a lot harder when we don't really know the inner workings of the CBA.

DichioTFC
09-27-2010, 08:39 AM
I know the exercise wasn't supposed to allow for releases, but I just had to get rid of the waste. It's a mix of this season and a prelude to 2011.

TFC Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 75,000.00
TFC Barrett Chad F $ 2 05,000.00
TFC Cann Adrian D $ 65,000.00
TFC de Guzman Julian M $ 1 ,670,796.00
TFC DeRosario Dwayne M $ 500,000.00
TFC Frei Stefan GK $ 8 0,000.00
TFC Gargan Daniel M $ 60,000.00
TFC Harden Ty D $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Joseph Nane M $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC Kocic Milos GK $ 4 0,000.00 $ 40,000.00
TFC LaBrocca Nick M $ 7 7,000.00
TFC Peterson Jacob F $ 75,000
TFC Santos Maicon F $ 80,000.00
TFC Sanyang Amadou D $ 4 0,000.00
TFC Saric Martin M $ 60,000.00
TFC White O'Brian F $ 75,000.00

Releases:
TFC Conway Jon GK $ 6 0,000.00
TFC Gala Gabe D-M $ 4 0,000.00
TFC Garcia Nick D $ 1 90,000.00
TFC Gomez Emmanuel D $ 4 0,000.00
TFC Herold Zachary D $ 6 0,000.00
TFC Hscanovics Raivis D $ 1 14,000.00
TFC Ibrahim Fuad F $ 1 00,000.00
TFC Martinez Miguel "Mista" F $ 9 68,736.00
TFC Usanov Maxim D $ 9 6,000.00

Total Salary (account $400K for DeRo and JDG): $1,812,000 / 16 guys.

Cap Space (assuming $3M / 30 guys, as rumoured): $1,188,000 / 14 guys = $84,857 / player

We have a lot of money available, and the kind of players that are available in the league for ~$80 are pretty good (Omar Cummings $71.5K, Marvel Wynne $66.5K lol, Brek Shea $75K, Tean Bunbury $65K, Roger Espinoza $75K, Chance Myers $70K, Robbie Findley $73.5K, Will Johnson $76K, Patrick Ianni $77K, Sanna Nyassi $40K, Sam Cronin $57K :facepalm:, Chris Wondowlowski $48K). Mix in a couple of $100K guys and some lower $40K guys, we can still have space for another DP if necessary.

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Changes in bold, explainations:

Attakora to $75K. I absolutely *love* Nana, but he's a young player and we can't price ourselves out of the market for retaining his services on the next contract. $75K this time, $105K next time and if he turns out to be Rio Ferdinand, $120K.

Cann to $65K. Deserves a small raise (just signed a new contract). But on a four year deal, this will be the most he makes as a footballer.

DeRosario to $500K. Based on his 19.26% increase in pay from last year ($375K) to this year (~$450K), it's along similar lines. I would *not* give him the 176% raise he's begging for though.

Gargan to $60K. Exceeded expectations. Deserves the bump.

Peterson to $75K. He's not that good. This figure is generous, but I'm assuming he wouldn't go much lower than this, if even this low.

Santos to $80K. Hasn't earned the $93K, but still is one of our best strikers, relatively speaking. And you gotta love the glare, that's worth a bit in itself.

Saric to $60K. Any higher than this is a joke.

White to $75K. It's unfortunate he was signed with such a high price tag. I really think he's got NFL-rookie syndrome where his high pay extinguished his fire. I would keep him along to develop him (I really think he could become a reasonable striker for us in the future as he matures), but we got hosed on this one.

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We really do have a pretty good core group of players. The needs are not a surprise to anyone (true goalscorer, wingers, left back), but we have other holes either filled well or filled adequately.