TFC v. Crapids - Game Thread (July 10th)

[James17930]

Anyone got a stream? The one posted in the pre-game thread isn't working.

[Super Cereal]

that lineup... yikes

[J .]

Stream : http://atdhe.net/21092/watch-colorado-rapids-vs-toronto-fc

Fack. I wish I was there and not at work. Fucking balls. what is the starting lineup?

[LesH]

Doesn't looks like there are more than 16,000 at BMO....

[Batman]

also live on cbc website
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/soccerday/blog/

[manic.street.preacher]

wtf ... these crapids announcers are talking about the weather, 4th of july, sandwichs ... anything but the match

[LesH]

so far I saw some 7 minutes, and TFC has done shit...

[LesH]

wtf ... these crapids announcers are talking about the weather, 4th of july, sandwichs ... anything but the match

I give them some credit, the game looks crap so far...

[The Oz]

Can someone post the lineup here.

[MartinUtd]

-----Barrett -- OBW------

Ibby-Saric-Labrocca-DeRo

Gargan-Cann-Attakora-Usanov

-----------Frei-------------

[The Oz]

Oh god I can't deal with this terrible american announcing. MUST GET LESS LAZY AND GO DOWNSTAIRS TO CANADIAN TVvvvvvvvv

[J .]

CBC is great for MLS. US TV for MLS is fucking shite.

TFC has done fuck all so far. Colorado is bossing them around the mid.

Where is JDG and Maicon?

[yanggoh]

these colorado announcers are making me gag

[MartinUtd]

I think JDG is suspended and Maicon isn't available until the 15th

[MartinUtd]

Nice attempt by DeRo!!

[The Oz]

JDG and Sanyang are suspended. Maicon and Mista are not allowed to play until transfer window opens on july 14/15th

[J .]

Better stream: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/soccerday/blog/

[yanggoh]

can't use cbc stream 'cause im out of the country. making do by watching colorado stream with the sound off.

[Gixmo]

Just throwing it out there

OBW is extremely concerning to me. He lacks pace, and it appears that he lacks effort. He's giving up early, he's been beaten by Wynne twice and his touch is garbage. For the money he makes, the return on investment is lacking.

In my eyes, he holds CB19 back from doing what he can - If he had half the effort CB has, I'd be more forgiving but alas he does not.

Take him of at half time, bring on this Santos kid and then ship him out in the xfer window. He's excess to the surplus in Toronto and he's had his time to shine.. He has not.

Bye bye OBW.

[LesH]

So far this is crap match again as far as TFC is concerned.
We need to learn to be happy for draws?

[Gixmo]

Maicon is on the bench according to Wileman, Mista cannot play as the INTERNATIONAL transfer window does not open until the 15th. Santos came from within the league, so it's ok!

[dclaro]

close call from casey conor

[LesH]

Just throwing it out there

OBW is extremely concerning to me. He lacks pace, and it appears that he lacks effort. He's giving up early, he's been beaten by Wynne twice and his touch is garbage. For the money he makes, the return on investment is lacking.

In my eyes, he holds CB19 back from doing what he can - If he had half the effort CB has, I'd be more forgiving but alas he does not.

Take him of at half time, bring on this Santos kid and then ship him out in the xfer window. He's excess to the surplus in Toronto and he's had his time to shine.. He has not.

Bye bye OBW.

I can't stand to watch OBW... :facepalm:

[J .]

JDG and Sanyang are suspended. Maicon and Mista are not allowed to play until transfer window opens on july 14/15th


Makes sense. Obw needs to be sitting on the bench and forgotten until he improves.

[MartinUtd]

I imagine OBW would stay around long enough to be waiver bait for Vancouver. He could be worth keeping though.. maybe when the reserve league comes back he can work on his skills without fucking us at the same time.

[J .]

So far this is crap match again as far as TFC is concerned.
We need to learn to be happy for draws?


Last year the draws would have been losses... solace?

[The Oz]

Maicon is on the bench according to Wileman, Mista cannot play as the INTERNATIONAL transfer window does not open until the 15th. Santos came from within the league, so it's ok!

Ahhhhh my bad. Forgot he came ffrom chivas. Thanks for the clarification.

Two things on that last play for the corner. OBW has no pace, no first touch, and he is a complete liability to me. Bring him off for Maicon at half plx. Thanks.

[The Oz]

Last year the draws would have been losses... solace?

Still should always be going for a W at home. Not much effort i see being put in by a couple of players and its bothering me.

[Gixmo]

Ahhhhh my bad. Forgot he came ffrom chivas. Thanks for the clarification.

Two things on that last play for the corner. OBW has no pace, no first touch, and he is a complete liability to me. Bring him off for Maicon at half plx. Thanks.


NP, I was confused myself for a moment there however intra-league transfers are A-Ok (Much like a loan in the EPL etc)

MartinUTD is on point, When MTL/VAN look to expand OBW is bait to be had. I don't think reserve fixtures are the answer here. His injury seems to have hampered him substantially.

Take the shot Usanov...

[J .]

Rapids clogging the mid, we are not getting much through the centre of the park.

[MartinUtd]

Usanov has NO distribution.

Other than wild slid tackles which I'm never comfortable with.. what is he actually good at?

[J .]

Still should always be going for a W at home. Not much effort i see being put in by a couple of players and its bothering me.


+1 there

[MartinUtd]

So why arent some of you regulars at the game?

Wisdom teeth are my excuse :cryin:

[J .]

My ass is at work, had some appointments I couldnt re arrange one aet 10, the other at 2 and then 4. So no dice. I wish I was there. Good news is I have already sold one car, if I get another I wont be too unhappy about missing the game.

[The Oz]

I am a broke and unemployed university student. Feel my pain.

[MartinUtd]

haha.. it must be hard closing deals with one eye on the game

[J .]

hahaha, well its quiet now, usually is on days that are super amazing like this, people come early in the morn, or late in the aft. Good thing for watching the game. Bad for the wallet. So Im glad I booked appointments around the game, knowing it was at 12-2 :)

[ag futbol]

Well Preki must have seen something from Ibby the first game out that was decent because he's playing much better this game.

Gargan is doing all he can with Cummings on the right side... a lot of speed and talent to try and contain there.

OBW and Barrett have been trash. If they want to play like that i think we know which strikers are gong to be starting come the 15th.

[MartinUtd]

So this Santos character.. I know nothing about him. Is he a winger or a centre forward? Does anyone remember him from his time at Chivas?

[Gixmo]

So why arent some of you regulars at the game?

Wisdom teeth are my excuse :cryin:

Traveling on business, First and only day back home.. Head back out tomorrow so wasn't going to spend it in the sun after being on my feet for 5 days straight..

That's a cute MLS Impact commercial... L'fromage

I believe Santos is an attacking winger... My bet is we will find out in 15.. :p

[MartinUtd]

OBW and Barrett have been trash. If they want to play like that i think we know which strikers are gong to be starting come the 15th.

I think you're being a little hard on Barret. He hasn't been a threats per say, but he has managed to keep the play going by playing aggressive with the Colorado defense deep in their zone. He still can't cross but he has added to our pressure. I wouldn't say he's having a good game, but he's not having an OBW game either.

[Davenport]

Colorado bossed the first half.

White - Invisible
Usanov - Usaless
Cann - Shaky
Saric - Forgot he was playing until he got injured....so did the commentators !
Ibrahim - Poor

[TFC USA]

Dick Howard > Jason DeVos

And in terms of entertainment...

Mexican 9th Division > MLS



Come on I don't want another draw.

[The Oz]

Well Preki must have seen something from Ibby the first game out that was decent because he's playing much better this game.

Gargan is doing all he can with Cummings on the right side... a lot of speed and talent to try and contain there.

OBW and Barrett have been trash. If they want to play like that i think we know which strikers are gong to be starting come the 15th.

Barrett needs to stop being played as a striker. We know he has no finish, and is much better for us as a forward winger.

and pleeease take off OBW for Maicon Santos I wanna see thsi guy play.

[MartinUtd]

I believe Santos is an attacking winger... My bet is we will find out in 15.. :p

Hmm.. if that's the case who would you take out?

OBW, move DeRo up to and put Santos on the wing? Or switch out Ibby for Santos... or maybe try Labrocca out wide, DeRo as an attacking mid and Santos in the vacant winger spot?

[TFC USA]

What in the fuck did Marvell Wynne drink to become a competent defender?

He's been very good this half.

[MartinUtd]

Dick Howard > Jason DeVos

And in terms of entertainment...

Mexican 9th Division > MLS



Come on I don't want another draw.


haha.. i love all those people on SoccerByIves that think MLS is on par with the CCC. Having watched three years of League One (thank you Leeds United) I can definitely say that we're a third (and a half) rate league. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just being a realist.

[Davenport]

Dick Howard > Jason DeVos

And in terms of entertainment...

Mexican 9th Division > MLS



Come on I don't want another draw.

Howard knows his footy and talks sense but De Vos has done well in the WC Studio.

It's painful to watch and the camera must be on the roof at Mississauga City Hall.

[ag futbol]

I think you're being a little hard on Barret. He hasn't been a threats per say, but he has managed to keep the play going by playing aggressive with the Colorado defense deep in their zone. He still can't cross but he has added to our pressure. I wouldn't say he's having a good game, but he's not having an OBW game either.
Oh absolutely not.

His first touch has been piss poor and his decision making has been putrid. He's provided nothing out there.

OBW is guilty of being extremely lazy, Barrett looks like he's got NASL level talent. Let's stop kidding ourselves and pretending he's a MLS level starter.

[James17930]

Who got the yellow?

I missed the first half (though it looks like I didn't miss much).

[Davenport]

haha.. i love all those people on SoccerByIves that think MLS is on par with the CCC. Having watched three years of League One (thank you Leeds United) I can definitely say that we're a third (and a half) rate league. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just being a realist.
I've said it for a while. An average MLS side would be bottom half Div 2/top half Conference.

[Davenport]

Who got the yellow?
Gargan for a bad tackle.

[Davenport]

Oh absolutely not.

His first touch has been piss poor and his decision making has been putrid. He's provided nothing out there.

OBW is guilty of being extremely lazy, Barrett looks like he's got NASL level talent. Let's stop kidding ourselves and pretending he's a MLS level starter.
Neither are good enough and there is zero chemistry between them.

[The Oz]

WHAT? GARCIA? Santos too but wtf?

[Gixmo]

Hmm.. if that's the case who would you take out?

OBW, move DeRo up to and put Santos on the wing? Or switch out Ibby for Santos... or maybe try Labrocca out wide, DeRo as an attacking mid and Santos in the vacant winger spot?

Barrett up front alone, Dero in the keyhole and Santos wide..

Dero in the key can move left to right for creative reign...

We'll find out, He's on now.

[Sonny Cheeba]

here comes new guy with no hair on his balls..

[ag futbol]

I've said it for a while. An average MLS side would be bottom half Div 2/top half Conference.
I think that's a huge stretch. We've seen enough players from that level come here and fail to know anyone playing at that level would usually struggle in MLS.

League one is realistic. The payrolls are comparable and from the shuffle of talent back and forth it seems the players are similar grades. Athough you have situations like Andy Welsh sucking shit in MLS but being good enough to win caps for Yeovil or Ryan Smith rotting on the bench in england but being good enough to excel in MLS.

I'd say that it just about passes the smell test.

[Gixmo]

Great save Super Stefan Frei

Garcia beaten in 27 seconds... Thats a new record!!

[LesH]

Who got the yellow?

I missed the first half (though it looks like I didn't miss much).

You should be a happy man you missed it.
Except 10 seconds (a Dero shot which just missed) I have lost 45 mins from my life.

[James17930]

Love that these commentators are so informed.

[koryo]

Garcia in at left back against Cummings? Is Preki taking the piss?

Bastard wants bloody shooting for doing that.

[MartinUtd]

Oh absolutely not.

His first touch has been piss poor and his decision making has been putrid. He's provided nothing out there.

OBW is guilty of being extremely lazy, Barrett looks like he's got NASL level talent. Let's stop kidding ourselves and pretending he's a MLS level starter.

You're probably right. I fully admit to having low standards up top.

At least we have Santos on... and Garcia..ugh.. hopefully he has a better game.

Btw, how is Gomez coming along?

[yanggoh]

for fuck's sake, no wonder US fans can't get into MLS...i turned the sound back on my stream for jsut a moment and these colorado dipshits are absolutely ridiculous. so unprofessional...i cannot believe these fools still have jobs.

[TFC USA]

Garcia took 30 seconds to be involved in a Colorado chance.

[The Oz]

Nice run by Labrocca! Maicon with a good pass.

[TFC USA]

That is a penalty. Fuck you, ref.

[The Oz]

Fucking refs, cheating us out of foul calls once more.

[Super Cereal]

Sure looked like a penalty to me at full speed...

[TFC USA]

On second thought, I guess it's a toss-up.

I still think it's a penalty because I'm a homer.


Third thought: PENALTY! Dammit he got tripped.

[Super Cereal]

And now with the replay...

How the fuck is that not a PK?

[Gixmo]

That's an iffy call.. Had Dero had possession, that's a penalty... Unfortunately, he did not and both made contact with each other... Unfortunate

Maicon with a nice ball to Labrocca already...

[James17930]

Why is Ibby taking corners?

[Gixmo]

And now with the replay...

How the fuck is that not a PK?


... Possession :(
... Dual contact :(

It's an either or type penalty..

[TFC USA]

This entire team has the first touch of a rapist.

[MFG1]

damn this is so boring.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Labrocca's dope.

[Sonny Cheeba]

damn this is so boring.

haha.... don't worry . Germany v Uruguay is coming up.

[TFC USA]

This MLS game...it's exciting.

[James17930]

nice play there.

We're attacking farily well so far.

[MartinUtd]

Labrocca's dope.


Definitely my favourite pick up of 2010

[The Oz]

This entire team has the first touch of a rapist.

This.

[James17930]

As bad as the commentators are, it's almost worse that there's no crowd noise on this feed.

[Sonny Cheeba]

would be a good time to drop a deucer at BMO.

[MartinUtd]

IBBY!!!!!!

[The Oz]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ow Ibrahim!

[dclaro]

gooool by ibby

[TFC USA]

Ibrahim!!!

All Is Forgiven!!!

1-0. :d

[The Oz]

SEE! Chad Barrett with his pace and good cross is better on the wing than as a striker. PREKI TAKE NOTICE!

[Sonny Cheeba]

well done battling out for that ball.... BUT BARRET WITH THE SLICK CROSS YEAH!

still tho. at 60 minutes.... prime deuce time. but i'd say 25mins is the best, less pee on the seat.

[ag futbol]

Very nice. I thought he had far from a perfect game going but did some things right.

That's a goal i wish our regular strikers would score (the ugly ones)

[LesH]

shit, the atdhe feed died!

[TFC USA]

That's his first goal since 2008. Damn.

[James17930]

Fucking stream went dead 2 secs before that.

[Across_The_Pond]

Lovely ball in from Barrett! Watching the game with a beer in my hand on a stream in Wales. Superb!

[Gixmo]

haha.. Santos was confused.. They must not celebrate in Chivas land!

[TFC USA]

Nigel Reed sounds sick/hungover. Voice is stuffy.

Oh god can we please cover Cummings?

[James17930]

Fuck we need this win. I hope they keep pressing for a second -- would be insane to sit back this early.

[TFC USA]

What the hell kind of backpass was that?

[Gixmo]

Craiger needs a tan....

[Sonny Cheeba]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL

was that Craiger with "Shirts off" painted on his chest or some shit HAHAHAHAHAHAA

[TFC USA]

Barrett off, Gala on.

[LesH]

Fuking shit, the atdhe stream is still dead, I haven't seen the goal either.
No other streams except the CBC????

[MartinUtd]

shit, the atdhe feed died!

Channelsurfing.net had one

[TFC USA]

BMO filled up nicely.

You late arriving lot piss me off. :p

[TFC USA]

Wild coincidence, the crowd was booing about something and the camera was on Garcia.

[Detroit_TFC]

Nigel Reed sounds sick/hungover. Voice is stuffy.

Oh god can we please cover Cummings?

Be glad you aren't watching the Colorado feed on Direct Kick. The commentary is beyond bad.

[TFC USA]

I like Santos.

[The Oz]

Sooooo, why did Chivas get rid of this guy?

[TFC USA]

Ibbe cramping up.

[TFC USA]

Are we pushing for a 2nd goal? I don't think we are.

[MartinUtd]

ouch

[Detroit_TFC]

Gargan still seeing stars.

[Super Cereal]

**** yeah Attakora!

[Gixmo]

Yikes.. Frei again, made up for own error in judgment there

I'm extremely confused... Why did Chivas let Santos go? This guy has shown more skill in 40 minutes then most all game?

[James17930]

God -- they're still saying that shit about JDG?

HE WASN'T JUMPING OUT OF THE WAY -- he though the ball would curve in over the wall. Fuck.

[Davenport]

I like Santos.
He's done more in 45 minutes than White has in 2 years.

[MartinUtd]

Ref seems to be letting a lot go today

[Gixmo]

God -- they're still saying that shit about JDG?

HE WASN'T JUMPING OUT OF THE WAY -- he though the ball would curve in over the wall. Fuck.

Some by that explanation, Some do not.. Matter of opinion my man!

... I do not buy it - He hasn't done anything remotely similar since, and is putting himself in harms way..

[James17930]

All these early subs are not turning out to be a great idea Preki.

[Gixmo]

Jesus Fuck Santos..

What the hell Chivas... This guy has can shoot

[MartinUtd]

Santos is pretty good at taking shots when off balance. Granted not on target but still closer than some easy set ups by others.

[Detroit_TFC]

5 mins! Shit!

[The Oz]

Shit. 5 minutes. But seriously, why the fuck did Santos get waived by Chivas. This guy is EXACTLY what we need. AND OH MY GOD LABROCCA! Goal Line clear.





THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS FUCKING GAME EVER.

[dclaro]

what a scramble for the ball

[MartinUtd]

what a cluster fuck

[Gixmo]

Wow, Cramp everywhere here...

[Detroit_TFC]

Another huge save from Frei!

[The Oz]

Shit. Gargan, Ibbe, Santos, and Attakora are shook up/cramps/balls to face. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS WINNNNNNNN!

[Gixmo]

My word....

Bless you Stefan Frei.....

[Detroit_TFC]

Nail biter at the end. Very glad to get the three points. How weird is it that we are a second half team now.

[MartinUtd]

wow.. i cant believe we held on to that.

Red shirts going down all over the place and constant pressure in our own box. But we have 3 points, so lets celebrate!

[ArmenJBX]

Maicon Santos is perfect. :D

Hope he keeps this kind of play up and scores us some goals! :D

Good win today boys!

[James17930]

Holy fuck

[The Oz]

Did santos play a mid wing kinda position? Cause wherever he was, he was perfect.

[ExiledRed]

Santos looked sharp, he wanted to impress the crowd and score a screamer and he nearly did.

Looking forward to seeing this guy play more.

[ag futbol]

No he was playing as the target striker, that's his spot. He can be a bit of a hypbrid but he's too slow to play the wing.

[TFC USA]

That was scary. I'll take the win.

[Super Cereal]

No he was playing as the target striker, that's his spot. He can be a bit of a hypbrid but he's too slow to play the wing.
Really? Seemed like he was playing more of a supporting striker role to Ibrahim, but my soccer knowledge is likely a lot less than yours, I'm a hockey guy.

Either way he was impressive. He seems like he could play a secondary or support striker role, he was good at carrying it down field.

[ag futbol]

We really bit ourselves in the ass near the end with wastful distribution from the keeper that kept them with the ball and pinning us in our own half.

I'd call it a "preki" win in the sense it was a tactically astute performance. Nobody really did anything too special today.

[LesH]

this game we were still lacklustre creating scoring chances.
In all the last 4 games in row now...

Fuck, since we have not lost, TFC must have making the most points on the fewest scored goals in MLS!

[Oldtimer]

Post-game thread here:

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=23547