Today's News,Tuesday,Apr.27

[denime]

Mornin'


Preki Praises Players After Win (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/04/preki-praises-players-after-win)


De Rosario Named Player Of The Week (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/04/de-rosario-named-player-week)


Quest for Voyageurs Cup begins at BMO (http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2010/04/26/toronto_fc_impact_preview/)


Changes are afoot with Canadian championship (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/04/26/13730626.html)


Pluses and minuses for Toronto FC (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/nigelreed/2010/04/pluses-and-minuses-for-toronto-fc.html)


MLS Rankings: Week 5 (http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1110/major-league-soccer/2010/04/27/1896873/goalcom-mls-rankings-week-5)




SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshinegirl/)

[shutupkid]

Nobody wrote about the Cummins interview?

[keem-o-sabi]

Feud Brewing between Former Coach and Management (http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=2953874)

[keem-o-sabi]

Coed Ladies 1 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/04/26/miss-coed-crystal-chaya-2/) and 2 (http://bugehoobs.com/girls/some_hottie_named_jena)

[scooter]

mornin d

[drewski]

@grillroom (http://twitter.com/grillroom)
CONFIRMED - John Carver will speak tomorrow, addressing Chris Cummins criticism of Mo Johnston and #TFC (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC). http://bit.ly/airIpb

[Oldtimer]

Feud Brewing between Former Coach and Management (http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=2953874)

being discussed in the Cummins interview thread:

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=22126&page=5 (http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=22126&page=6)

[spark]

^
And to add to that - as if it wasn't obvious already by this point in time ...

GO QUIETLY OR LOUDLY: IT'S JOHNSTON'S CHOICE (http://www.rednationonline.ca/Go_Quietly_or_Loudly_Its_Johnstons_Choice_apr_27_1 0_column.shtml)

[ensco]

^
And to add to that - as if it wasn't obvious already by this point in time ...

GO QUIETLY OR LOUDLY: IT'S JOHNSTON'S CHOICE (http://www.rednationonline.ca/Go_Quietly_or_Loudly_Its_Johnstons_Choice_apr_27_1 0_column.shtml)

jloome: there's no question imho what he'll do.

Mo doesn't quit, he makes people quit. They'll have to take him out feet first.

[daner90]

SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshinegirl/)

I think I'm in love!!!

[ManUtd4ever]

Goal.com MLS rankings stated it best...

11. Toronto FC – Will the drama ever stop at TFC? Another week of scandal will offer unnecessary distractions ahead of an already formidable trip to Real Salt Lake. (14)

It's very unfortunate that the positive headlines regarding TFC's recent improvement, DeRo's Player Of The Week honor, and the upcoming Nutrilite Canadian Championship are being completely overshadowed by all the negative publicity surrounding the Chris Cummins Interview and MLSR reports of an investigation of TFC fan misbehavior.

I hope that after John Carver's interview today we can all get back to focusing on the club on the pitch regardless of MLSE's reaction. I'm glad that the truth has surfaced regarding last season's politics but in all honesty, I wish Cummins had spoken out in the offseason. The unecessary drama is getting ridiculous at an important juncture of the season...

[Oldtimer]

I hope that after John Carver's interview today we can all get back to focusing on the club on the pitch regardless of MLSE's reaction.

I doubt it.

(1) lawsuit
(2) Possible Robbo interview.

The soap opera will continue to air for months. :facepalm:

[koryo]

If Carver and Cummins wanted to pull the knives out, then last year was the time to do it. There's a distinct possibility that we might be starting to gell as a side and the last thing we need are gripes from ex-employees.

If either of them really give a shit about the club, they'd reconsider at this point.

[ManUtd4ever]

If Carver and Cummins wanted to pull the knives out, then last year was the time to do it. There's a distinct possibility that we might be starting to gell as a side and the last thing we need are gripes from ex-employees.

If either of them really give a shit about the club, they'd reconsider at this point.

Agreed...

[backbeat]

If Carver and Cummins wanted to pull the knives out, then last year was the time to do it. There's a distinct possibility that we might be starting to gell as a side and the last thing we need are gripes from ex-employees.

If either of them really give a shit about the club, they'd reconsider at this point.

i disagree completely. They should by all means talk now and get the air, and all that Mos with it, cleared - immediately. As it stands it sounds like they were muzzled before and now can speak. I also think Gerba's interview was part of the catalyst for the flood. Maybe Carver and Cummins wanted to shower, disinfect and just move on but now as 1 speaks, then 2, then 3 one feels compelled. either way it needs to come out so we can move forward after using a lot of Javex and clean up the house - i don't want a team surrounded by shit.

[menefreghista]

I don't think we hear anything from Robinson until he's out of the league.

[Parkdale]

I don't think we hear anything from Robinson until he's out of the league.


Robinson has played this all very well.
He doesn't have to open his mouth and risk MLS 'punishment',
but it seems pretty clear that some reporters know exactly
what questions to ask and of whom. Very crafty.

http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/the_informant_poster.jpg



ps. Robbo, if you read this - I still want that Jersey I won in the bet.
You'll always be on my 'TFC legends 11'

[ManUtd4ever]

i disagree completely. They should by all means talk now and get the air, and all that Mos with it, cleared - immediately. As it stands it sounds like they were muzzled before and now can speak. I also think Gerba's interview was part of the catalyst for the flood. Maybe Carver and Cummins wanted to shower, disinfect and just move on but now as 1 speaks, then 2, then 3 one feels compelled. either way it needs to come out so we can move forward after using a lot of Javex and clean up the house - i don't want a team surrounded by shit.

I understand your sentiment and agree in principle, but the timing is way off. At what cost do supporters need to feel vindicated? The season has started and the focus should be on the results on the pitch. I would rather TFC achieve success on the pitch, even if it means Mo retains his job until the end of the season rather than watch this shitstorm cause an ongoing distraction and have a negative impact on our team.

As previously mentioned, realistically, MoJo is not going to be fired because of interviews with disgruntled former employees. MoJo will be judged based on the results on the pitch whether we agree or not and his contract status will most likely be evaluated at the end of the season. Given that probability, I couldn't care less what happens to Mo for the time being if TFC becomes a winning club...

[Beach_Red]

I understand your sentiment and agree in principle, but the timing is way off. At what cost do supporters need to feel vindicated? The season has started and the focus should be on the results on the pitch. I would rather TFC achieve success on the pitch, even if it means Mo retains his job until the end of the season rather than watch this shitstorm cause an ongoing distraction and have a negative impact on our team.

As previously mentioned, realistically, MoJo is not going to be fired because of interviews with disgruntled former employees. MoJo will be judged based on the results on the pitch whether we agree or not and his contract status will most likely be evaluated at the end of the season. Given that probability, I couldn't care less what happens to Mo for the time being if TFC becomes a winning club...

That's not entirely true. Anselmi was clear at the end of last season that from the very start of TFC they'd given Mo a lot more jobs than just the team on the pitch. It was a complete start-up from scratch, remember, and Anselmi said they were looking at all of that.

Maybe this year, now that Anselmi has admitted they're no longer an expansion team, they'll be more concerned about the results, but it really seems like the plans and the goals from the very start of this team were a lot different than we tought they were.

[Waggy]

If Carver and Cummins wanted to pull the knives out, then last year was the time to do it. There's a distinct possibility that we might be starting to gell as a side and the last thing we need are gripes from ex-employees.

If either of them really give a shit about the club, they'd reconsider at this point.

I dunno about this. They aren't saying anything bad about the club, but about one man. Mo. Nothing to do with a coach or any players. In fact, the players who WERE here last year, on either side of the split, would probably welcome the revealing of the true cause of the problems.

Plus the danger of not doing it now is if the team DOES keep going and playing well (which hopefully they will), then Mo's job will be saved, which will do further, potentially lasting damage to the club. This way the club can win AND Mo can go. What TFC supporter can't get behind that?

[rocker]

I'm glad these guys are speaking out.

But I hope supporters can separate this soap opera from what's happening on the pitch. If Preki's moves work, and the team improves and wins games, please don't let this raincloud hang over you in the stadium.

North End Elite looked really sour on Sunday even though we were up 2-0.

[Parkdale]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs442.snc3/25375_10150175990195361_684990360_12029986_496692_ n.jpg

^ FYI - bubble at lamport is coming down.

[spark]

North End Elite looked really sour on Sunday even though we were up 2-0.

It's a tricky balance though b/c winning won't change the facts of what is going on, and you don't want it to be swept under the carpet if the team has a few on the trot. But you don't want it to look like it's against the "team" ... from where I sat, to me anyways, they seem to be trying to balance their support for singing for the XI on the field and then letting it be known their feelings about mgmt.

[jloome]

I understand your sentiment and agree in principle, but the timing is way off. At what cost do supporters need to feel vindicated? The season has started and the focus should be on the results on the pitch. I would rather TFC achieve success on the pitch, even if it means Mo retains his job until the end of the season rather than watch this shitstorm cause an ongoing distraction and have a negative impact on our team.

As previously mentioned, realistically, MoJo is not going to be fired because of interviews with disgruntled former employees. MoJo will be judged based on the results on the pitch whether we agree or not and his contract status will most likely be evaluated at the end of the season. Given that probability, I couldn't care less what happens to Mo for the time being if TFC becomes a winning club...

Actually, realistically there's every possibility of him being fired because of interviews with former employees. It depends how many speak up and what they say. Given the combination of a) his performance and b) the ongoing statements suggesting he is duplicitous, I wouldn't be surprised if this latest fiasco was the eventual nail in his coffin.

Typically, though, the team would wait until things have died down a bit once again, so that it didn't look like it was making decisions based on pressure from others.

[jloome]

jloome: there's no question imho what he'll do.

Mo doesn't quit, he makes people quit. They'll have to take him out feet first.

Yeah, you're probably right. It was one of those "inject some sense into the debate" columns, but he doesn't strike me as having the long-term vision.

[Beach_Red]

Actually, realistically there's every possibility of him being fired because of interviews with former employees. It depends how many speak up and what they say. Given the combination of a) his performance and b) the ongoing statements suggesting he is duplicitous, I wouldn't be surprised if this latest fiasco was the eventual nail in his coffin.

Typically, though, the team would wait until things have died down a bit once again, so that it didn't look like it was making decisions based on pressure from others.


A lot of it would depend on what the team asked him to do and how much of it he did. How much the team knew about this "duplicitiousness," and how much they of it they supported.

And really, no one with a family to support is going to quit a job if their boss still supports them.

[Roogsy]

^
And to add to that - as if it wasn't obvious already by this point in time ...

GO QUIETLY OR LOUDLY: IT'S JOHNSTON'S CHOICE (http://www.rednationonline.ca/Go_Quietly_or_Loudly_Its_Johnstons_Choice_apr_27_1 0_column.shtml)



Dear lord, Jeremy hit one out of the park with this one.

[Roogsy]

If Carver and Cummins wanted to pull the knives out, then last year was the time to do it. There's a distinct possibility that we might be starting to gell as a side and the last thing we need are gripes from ex-employees.

If either of them really give a shit about the club, they'd reconsider at this point.

I completely disagree.

Taking into considerations the fact that 1) they were probably in the middle of buyout negotiations when they announced their departure and 2) you need someone to ask the questions before you answer them, I believe this was Chris' first opportunity to speak out. We are in no position to demand when a person tells us the truth, only that he eventually does.

[TFC Tifoso]

I'm glad these guys are speaking out.

But I hope supporters can separate this soap opera from what's happening on the pitch. If Preki's moves work, and the team improves and wins games, please don't let this raincloud hang over you in the stadium.

North End Elite looked really sour on Sunday even though we were up 2-0.

much like the hope that supporters can separate the love for the colours and badge from the mess that is our management...

NEE were happy with the effort and result on Sunday...

just want to debunk some uninformed and wholly misguided opinons....

[icecoldbeer]

@grillroom (http://twitter.com/grillroom)
CONFIRMED - John Carver will speak tomorrow, addressing Chris Cummins criticism of Mo Johnston and #TFC (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC). http://bit.ly/airIpb

WOW!

[icecoldbeer]

Mornin'

Quest for Voyageurs Cup begins at BMO (http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2010/04/26/toronto_fc_impact_preview/)




"As for Preki, the coach keeps his cards very close to his chest and will go to extremes to protect any lineup secrets. "If I tell you, well, I am going to have to kill you."


Sneaky Preki :p

[Oldtimer]

Robinson has played this all very well.
He doesn't have to open his mouth and risk MLS 'punishment',
but it seems pretty clear that some reporters know exactly
what questions to ask and of whom. Very crafty.

It seems a bit "conspiracy theorist-ish," but it could be true.

OTOH KJ is great at getting to the point.

[backbeat]

Wheeler has been told John Carver will speak to Ives Galarcep today. Carver is NOT on the Grill Room. Wheeler has the day off.

[Parkdale]

It seems a bit "conspiracy theorist-ish," but it could be true.

OTOH KJ is great at getting to the point.


what does OTOH mean?

[Whoop]

On The Other Hand?

[Waggy]

Wheeler has been told John Carver will speak to Ives Galarcep today. Carver is NOT on the Grill Room. Wheeler has the day off.

Where'd you see that? I'd be SO happy if Ives got the story. If someone outside TO media picks this up, adds a LOT of legitimacy to the whole thing. It's not just some reporters 'out to get mo' or some trivial shit like that. We could be witnessing the beginning of the end today! Or the end of the end if you're optimistic. I have no problem giving Preki a shot running the whole club.

[backbeat]

Where'd you see that? I'd be SO happy if Ives got the story. If someone outside TO media picks this up, adds a LOT of legitimacy to the whole thing. It's not just some reporters 'out to get mo' or some trivial shit like that. We could be witnessing the beginning of the end today! Or the end of the end if you're optimistic. I have no problem giving Preki a shot running the whole club.


http://twitter.com/grillroom

[rocker]

so Carver passed on Wheeler, or Wheeler was just really happy yesterday that Carver was going to speak to Ives?????? Cuz he made no indication yesterday that it wasn't his interview.

[MUFC_Niagara]

Wheeler is an idiot.....he was probably happy to see his name in lights and decided to run with it as long as he could.

[Roogsy]

Rocker, your avatar of Edwards really freaks me out man.

[GBV]

WOW!

Today's Sun says he will speak in support of the Shmo.

[backbeat]

Today's Sun says he will speak in support of the Shmo.

link? I've been looking for that and can't find.

[GBV]

^ I don't see it in the on-line version either.
On page S24 of today's paper.

"Carver will speak Tuesday in support of his friend and former boss."
-- Gareth Wheeler

[ag futbol]

that derserves a few of these :picard:

[ua-kozak_TFC]

If Carver and Cummins wanted to pull the knives out, then last year was the time to do it. There's a distinct possibility that we might be starting to gell as a side and the last thing we need are gripes from ex-employees.

If either of them really give a shit about the club, they'd reconsider at this point.
DUDE you completely missed the point...
The reason why are they doing this... its not because of some benefit to them... It;s because of us. Because PEOPLE ASK THEM TO! It`s not like Carver has been nocking at the doors of major soccer journalist in toronto to get the talk about how awful is MO...
LAst year would be the WORST time to do it... Because people would not believe them... people would think that they are just saying stuff to cause shit... and to stir things up. SO yea i think the journalists wanted to ask questions ( eve right after they left) but they weren;t ready to talk... and rightly so because of what i said above. Now whatever they say no body can say that it;s because of being pissed off because they left or whatever... They got their own things going on now. Why would everyone bash Mo if it wasn;t in fact true.
let me interate if once again! this interviews are the results of continuos questionable desicion by Mo in the last couple of years... and reporters trying to get to the bottom of it by asking opinion of people involved with TFC and Mo in the past...

[ag futbol]

^ Yeah really though. Do you know why people don't normally speak out in this manner? Because it just hurts your career and does nothing positive. So for guys to go against management like this, guys must really feel they were treated badly.

BTW, after reading the SBI quote on twitter I have just as much respect for Carver as I did when he left (read zero). If we don't make the playoffs this year, we'd officially be the most futile club in MLS history. But that's ok, Johnston's "building something"