Today's News,Thursday,Apr.15

[denime]

Mornin'


IT'S a GAME DAY !!!!! :drum::scarf::drum::flare:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2009/10/14/bmo_field_courtesy_381.jpg




TFC’s de Guzman experiencing soccer ‘culture shock’ :thumbsup: (http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/mls/torontofc/article/795437--tfc-s-de-guzman-experiencing-soccer-culture-shock)


Four-for-you (http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2010/04/14/johnston_four_for_you/)


Team working on weak spots (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/04/14/13591261.html)


Ulmer: In Praise Of The Green Stuff (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/04/ulmer-praise-green-stuff)


TFC urged to mental toughness (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/04/14/13591226.html)


How long will TFC party last? (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bill_lankhof/2010/04/15/13591516.html)


New role for TFC's Sam Cronin? (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/04/14/sp-tfc-cronin.html)


Wednesday Practice Update (http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/04/wednesday-practice-update)


A mixed message (http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=2908181)



SUNSHINE (http://www.torontosun.com/sunshinegirl/)

[keem-o-sabi]

Coed Ladies 1 (http://www.maxim.com/girls/todays-girl/44821/danneel-harris.html) and 2 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/04/14/edyta-sliwinska-putting-the-fox-in-foxtrot/)

[denime]

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[Stouffville_RPB]

I've been waiting for today since October!

[denime]

Some interesting quotes from today articles;

How long will TFC party last? (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/bill_lankhof/2010/04/15/13591516.html)

Unflinching support from a raucous fan base has always been a part of Toronto FC’s foundation. But now, even the Red Patch Boys are getting antsy.


TFC’s de Guzman experiencing soccer ‘culture shock’ (http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/mls/torontofc/article/795437--tfc-s-de-guzman-experiencing-soccer-culture-shock)

Following a 4-1 drubbing at the hands of the New England Revolution last Saturday, Julian de Guzman asked his teammates if they should expect any kind of confrontation with Toronto FC fans while making their way to the team bus outside Gillette Stadium.

[McBrace]

If they thought that confrontation wasn't going to occur, then why come through the back door? LOL....

[Carts]

:flare::scarf: Good MatchDay Morning All....!!! :scarf: :flare:

Carts....

[KRO]

Some good reads this morning actually giving us some insights. The de Guzman article was interesting. Why is his family still in Europe?

Cronin at right back is a great idea. I think this is the first time a writer has watched them practice, drawn some conclusions from it and asked the right questions.

[madcow]

It's game day and I'm full of positive vibes. Excellent dream last night, Dero scored 2x, Barrett followed up with one, Frei had a clean sheet and Garcia suffered a career ending injury inside the locker room without any witnesses just minutes before gametime. All is now good in TFC land.

[drewski]

Mo' evidence of Mo's bad attitude


There comes a time in every franchise ... you want to be successful for yourself and the fans. At the end of the day, we all look forward to that time. When does that moment come? I can’t say.

umm, Mo, the day you want to be successful for yourself and the fans is Day 1.

[TFC Cityboy]

Sam did fine at RB last season, and has the positional sense needed. He has the legs and lungs to get up and support/overlap too.

[TFC Tifoso]

TFC’s de Guzman experiencing soccer ‘culture shock’ :thumbsup: (http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/mls/torontofc/article/795437--tfc-s-de-guzman-experiencing-soccer-culture-shock)

this is a great article....




Following a 4-1 drubbing at the hands of the New England Revolution last Saturday, Julian de Guzman asked his teammates if they should expect any kind of confrontation with Toronto FC fans while making their way to the team bus outside Gillette Stadium.
Consider it a reflex action.
After a decade playing professionally in Europe, the native of Scarborough instinctively concluded that a poor performance on the field would mean a demand for answers from supporters. In Germany, they would sit cross-legged in front of the bus, refusing to move until players explained themselves. In Spain, the same fans who had considered you conquering heroes after the previous match would now say you stink.


JDG is probably counting his lucky starts he's not in Europe now....but I guess these supporters in Germany and Spain would not be considered "true supporters"...lol.....

[GeorgeBest]

Newcomer Dan Gargan struggled somewhat during Saturday's 4-1 loss to the New England Revolution, and although Preki didn't tip his hand, he didn't rule out starting Cronin at right back for the team's home opener, Thursday against the expansion Philadelphia Union.

Perhaps Gargan has reached the average shelf life in Preki's good books - 1.0 games.

[ManUtd4ever]

Great articles all around today. I was encouraged by the JDG article and I hope his comments are echoed on the pitch. I also like the idea of Cronin at RB. He is far too talented to be on the bench and in Preki's system, his skill set might be better suited on the backline with our surplus of midfielders and lack of quality on the backline...

[TFC Cityboy]

Love this line from our glorious leader's interview

Belonging to a TFC supporters groups is a bit like belonging to a scarf-wielding fraternity. It is about belonging to something big and joyous, about speaking in tongues the uninitiated can only wonder at. It is about body paint and feeling like a kid again.

[Parkdale]

http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/features/article/88278--joining-the-red-army

^ great article on TFC and us, the Red Patch Boys.

side note: I never used a bullhorn, but hey... "I don't need a megaphone"

[J .]

So if they lose tonight, should we go and have a sit infront of their bus?

[Parkdale]

So if they lose tonight, should we go and have a sit infront of their bus?


who's bus? I don't think our players bus to BMO.

[Hooligan69]

So if they lose tonight, should we go and have a sit infront of their bus?

Bitch on the Internet. :lol:

[Red CB Toronto]

Yeh the idea of a sit in, blocking a team bus is just crazy. Anyways lots of TFC coverage today, which is great and ever more Grass at BMO is here.

Come On You Reds

[DOMIN8R]

It would interesting to see the list today of the Councillors that voted against and for the stadium back in 2005/06.

[Parkdale]

It would interesting to see the list today of the Councillors that voted against and for the stadium back in 2005/06.

Case Ootes? Gotta be some wingnuts.

[denime]

http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/features/article/88278--joining-the-red-army

^ great article on TFC and us, the Red Patch Boys.

side note: I never used a bullhorn, but hey... "I don't need a megaphone"

Great read ,excellent !!

Parky you are such a media .... :D

[Parkdale]

Great read ,excellent !!

Parky you are such a media .... :D


hey... glen M is the coverboy! :rolleyes:

[menefreghista]

Case Ootes? Gotta be some wingnuts.

Rob Ford for sure as well.

He wanted us to use Centennial. :facepalm:

[Redcoe15]

Looking forward to the home opener tonight and seeing how the club will play on real grass of their own.

[Parkdale]

He wanted us to use Centennial. :facepalm:


and only 2,000 people would show up to games. that would have been a huge failure.

[olegunnar]

http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/features/article/88278--joining-the-red-army

^ great article on TFC and us, the Red Patch Boys.

side note: I never used a bullhorn, but hey... "I don't need a megaphone"

I'm confused Tottenham? Ref-ed in High School?
That doesn't sound like the the Ligue 1 loving, Prawn eating soccer neophyte that posts under the handle Parkdale :D

He’s the prototypical TFC fan — instructed by his British expat father that pride in Tottenham Hotspur was a way of life, Mike played in a neighbourhood league as a kid, and refereed part-time in high school.

[boban]

I think JDG just gave an excellent idea to away supports in the future when they lay a stinker on the road.
It's peaceful, not combative. Sit in front of the bus and have them address the people who traveled all they way to see them play.

[Parkdale]

I'm confused Tottenham? Ref-ed in High School?
That doesn't sound like the the Ligue 1 loving, Prawn eating soccer neophyte that posts under the handle Parkdale :D



different mike - That's the former drummer of his band, and not the subject of his interview. I guess your reading comprehension skills are as stunted as your social skills. :D :dita: :D


and I stopped reffing in junior high.

[Roogsy]

hey... glen M is the coverboy! :rolleyes:


:lol:

[Oldtimer]

From the Post article:


Johnston said uncertainty around the team's salary-cap situation, the result of an MLS collective bargaining agreement that did not get finalized until right before the season, is the main reason why TFC did not have a full stable of players ready.


Mo is still continuing with the excuses. Seasons 1-3, it was the same thing, and there was no CBA issue.

[Pachuco]

From the Post article:

Mo is still continuing with the excuses. Seasons 1-3, it was the same thing, and there was no CBA issue.

It's not even that. No other teams had as small of a roster as we did, how does he explain that? so many times I wish someone would just ask him the question when the words CBA come out of his mouth.

[GlenM]

I can never look at myself and not laugh...

Mahn what a pic!

LOVE IT!

GlenM

[Roogsy]

Very little accountability from the media though, because SOMEONE should ask him that question. The status of the team's roster before, during and after the CBA negotiations was an embarrassment and it had nothing to do with the CBA.

[scooter]

mornin d

mornin all---------game day

that is all see you all at joes for the march

[scooter]

Bitch on the Internet. :lol:

done that got the ...:drum:

[Whoop]

Very little accountability from the media though, because SOMEONE should ask him that question. The status of the team's roster before, during and after the CBA negotiations was an embarrassment and it had nothing to do with the CBA.

I agree. I would love to see it.

But I don't think that will happen until TFC gets even bigger, more scrutinized.

I see it happening a bit now.

A lot more TFC coverage lately in the papers than I've seen in the past.

But is it because TFC is getting bigger or because it's more of a soap opera?

[denime]

I agree. I would love to see it.

But I don't think that will happen until TFC gets even bigger, more scrutinized.

I see it happening a bit now.

A lot more TFC coverage lately in the papers than I've seen in the past.

But is it because TFC is getting bigger or because it's more of a soap opera?

Maybe because nothing else is going on,Leafs and Raptors are golfing as we speek,Jays not even 10 games in to the season.

[Beach_Red]

From the Post article:

Mo is still continuing with the excuses. Seasons 1-3, it was the same thing, and there was no CBA issue.


Excuses work in that organization - all their teams have plenty.

[Darlofletch]

this is a great article....





JDG is probably counting his lucky starts he's not in Europe now....but I guess these supporters in Germany and Spain would not be considered "true supporters"...lol.....

that's right, Duane Rollins must be shaking his head at those unsophisticated supporters who don't have a real appreciation of what it means to be a supporter.:rolleyes:

[boban]

Very little accountability from the media though, because SOMEONE should ask him that question. The status of the team's roster before, during and after the CBA negotiations was an embarrassment and it had nothing to do with the CBA.
But that's how it's always been. And I not talking about just about TFC. its the culture in this town. Everything is a love fest with upper management and ownership. Nobody is willing to take them to task when they can. Sure they will spew off in some article away from them (ala Steve Simmons did recently), but when they get them behind the mike (like Alselmi or Peddie at the Fan590) or some interview with a paper or TV camera, it's just one hug fest with them. Nobody asks tough questions, they just skirt over issues. It's complacency. Toronto sucks as a sports winning town. As such the media doesn't know or how to ask the questions to hold UM and ownership accountable really. They are just so used to losing.
If I am not mistaken, John Carver touched on this very point when he was here. It utterly surprised me no one (media or otherwise) picked up on this or dug into this deeper.

[Roogsy]

I can't disagree.

[TFC Tifoso]

that's right, Duane Rollins must be shaking his head at those unsophisticated supporters who don't have a real appreciation of what it means to be a supporter.:rolleyes:

well, he's not the only one who has that opinion, but I find it very odd that people think a supporter is just supposed to sing and clap....

parents are "supporters" of their children as well....are they not supposed to discipline them when they fuck up then?....

yes, we don't have to take every element from supporters overseas and incorporate it here....i get that....we sure has hell have no need to fight cops like they do overseas, for instance....but certain elements, like demanding accountability from management and players are at the CORE of supporters culture....and we have to keep that up this year as long as the results warrant it...

[Parkdale]

parents are "supporters" of their children as well....are they not supposed to discipline them when they fuck up then?....


seriously, I don't facepalm often.... but your analogy there is face-palm-worthy.

[Wooster_TFC]

While I agree the roster situation was terrible, there were some dependencies on the CBA. It wasn't until the CBA was finalized that TFC received the extra US spots. Going into training camp, we had 2 International spots, and 3 (or 4) Canadian spots open. The only Canadian we had any chance of signing was Cann, and from what I can tell, he's probably getting overpaid (considering it looks like Brennan had to retire and Gerba had to be bought out to clear enough cap space to sign Cann). Really, anything over 100k for the guy is too much.

Yes, Mo did put us in this position, but without the new CBA and 10 US spots (up from the 3 we were supposed to have), we would have seen no movement (except for maybe the signing of Saric and Gargan, and the trade of Wynne).

While he shouldn't use it as an excuse because it was his fault we were in that position, it is definitely a fair point to bring up.

It will be interesting to see how many teams will be in the same sort of position in the upcoming years with the increase in guaranteed contracts. I think a lot of MLS teams got away with a whole bunch of mistakes due to the fact that most contracts weren't guaranteed.

[TFC Tifoso]

seriously, I don't facepalm often.... but your analogy there is face-palm-worthy.


why?.....its been made a few times before.....Flush did it a couple of days ago....

i consider this club to be almost like a child to me....i will always love it, but will want the best from it when I feel that is not happening...

[Parkdale]

why?.....its been made a few times before.....Flush did it a couple of days ago....

i consider this club to be almost like a child to me....i will always love it, but will want the best from it when I feel that is not happening...



does this bridge support ever tell the bridge its doing a shitty job?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/48517380_e7a3f85d3f.jpg


^ does the bridge support ever walk out and leave the bridge hanging?



see? we can all make bad comparisons to other kinds of 'support'.

The idea that people are just clapping along blindly is just inaccurate.

[TFC Tifoso]

does this bridge support ever tell the bridge its doing a shitty job?

^ does the bridge support ever walk out and leave the bridge hanging?

oh boy......

[Beach_Red]

does this bridge support ever tell the bridge its doing a shitty job?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/48517380_e7a3f85d3f.jpg


^ does the bridge support ever walk out and leave the bridge hanging?



see? we can all make bad comparisons to other kinds of 'support'.

The idea that people are just clapping along blindly is just inaccurate.


But we make choices about our support. The owners get a pass because without them we wouldn't even have a team (or something like that, we used to hear it a lot) and the players get a pass because, well, they're players.

So, middle-management gets all our scorn.

Is that effective support?

[Whoop]

I don't think TFC_Tifoso is far off though in his comparison. It's apt.

Maybe "discipline" is the wrong word, but it's about demanding accountability than just cheerleading.

I think though Boris' words in the Sun article are at a starting point. The key will be supporting him and the rest of the exec if we have to ratchet up the pressure.

That's when the true mettle will be seen.

[denime]

oh boy......

STOP :troll: or :smash::smash:

[Gazza]

Coed Ladies 1 (http://www.maxim.com/girls/todays-girl/44821/danneel-harris.html) and 2 (http://coedmagazine.com/2010/04/14/edyta-sliwinska-putting-the-fox-in-foxtrot/)

Coed ladie number 1 is Daneel Harris! What an omen. Tonight is going to be a good night!

[Whoop]

If the media isn't holding the FO, upper management, accountable... then it's left to the supporters.

In reality, it's always been that way.

It's just not that common in NA sports.

[TFC Tifoso]

see? we can all make bad comparisons to other kinds of 'support'.

The idea that people are just clapping along blindly is just inaccurate.

so is the idea that we should never get on the players to want better, as some have suggested more than a few times....

anyways, I'm not looking to open this "true supporters" dabate again....just found it interesting and somewhat odd that some of the players (in this case JDG) who worked and lived nearly their whole life in the sport, almost expect a negative response....

[TFC Tifoso]

STOP :troll: or :smash::smash:

who is trolling?.....I haven't made any personal attacks on anybody or called out anyone in particular....

[Parkdale]

I don't think TFC_Tifoso is far off though in his comparison. It's apt.

Maybe "discipline" is the wrong word, but it's amount demanding accountability than just cheerleading.

I think though Boris' words in the Sun article are at a starting point. The key will be supporting him and the rest of the exec if we have to ratchet up the pressure.

That's when the true mettle will be seen.


^ sure, and look at what everyone from this group is saying - it's time for results or a full scale shakeup of the people hwo put our team together.

[Parkdale]

anyway, to keep from turning this ugly... I'm going to go be positive in a positive thread somewhere (possibly about Marseilles)

[Roogsy]

I don't think TFC_Tifoso is far off though in his comparison. It's apt.

Maybe "discipline" is the wrong word, but it's amount demanding accountability than just cheerleading.

I think though Boris' words in the Sun article are at a starting point. The key will be supporting him and the rest of the exec if we have to ratchet up the pressure.

That's when the true mettle will be seen.

I agree with Whoop...

[Whoop]

We've seen TFC start from nothing, from the ground up. It's growing.

I just hope it's not stuck on the "terrible 2s" stage. LOL

[Whoop]

I agree with Whoop...

LOL

Wow... another agreement.

[Gazza]

Jonas Gustavsson signs 2 year contract with the Leafs...How will he be spending his money?

"I'll be going to the soccer game tonight..."

Woohoo, The Monster is a TFC fan!

[Parkdale]

Jonas Gustavsson signs 2 year contract with the Leafs...How will he be spending his money?

"I'll be going to the soccer game tonight..."

Woohoo, The Monster is a TFC fan!


I just hope he's not in front of me. That guy's tall!

[Shaughno]

Does he have any Swedish connections in the footy world??? LOL

[Whoop]

Parky,
Aren't you in the front row? LOL

[Whoop]

Does he have any Swedish connections in the footy world??? LOL

Maybe we should have signed him as the CB? LOL

[Parkdale]

Parky,
Aren't you in the front row? LOL


it was a joke.

but no, I'm in row 6 of 112 this year. on the isle, in the corner (I'm calling my seat 'the crux')

[Parkdale]

Maybe we should have signed him as the CB? LOL


we all dream of a team of center backs... a team of center backs....

[Whoop]

LOL...

I knew it was a joke...

I was making a joke...

Joke fail...

[TFC Tifoso]

We've seen TFC start from nothing, from the ground up. It's growing.

I just hope it's not stuck on the "terrible 2s" stage. LOL

and its gonna be awful hard to potty train if it keeps shitting itself over and over lol....

[torfchamilton]

JDG is right, why is it all over the world they do things like this. I have heard of many thing including fans storming in while they practice to get answers. There are so many things that have been done. I am not saying as fans we need to do this, but I really dislike when people come on here and say that I am a true supporter and stick behind the team whether they are shite or not. We can still support but have our opinions and express our opinions.

[Chewy Unikronik]

A-FREAKIN'-MEN!!!


While in Europe the focus is on ball possession and a more methodical attack up the field as every player knows where he should be and what his teammates are doing

Even if the overall skill isn't there, the least they can do is make an effort on the sidelines.

[boban]

If the media isn't holding the FO, upper management, accountable... then it's left to the supporters.

In reality, it's always been that way.

It's just not that common in NA sports.
And it won't be here.
Like I mentioned above, losing in this town is a cultural thing. Not just for the media, but for fans alike.
Standing from afar (as person who hasn't paid membership), watching Boris a couple of weeks ago on Ledrew Live on CP24 reinforced my belief in that.
There he was with a smile from ear to ear. He had Paul right beside him. A missed opportunity was lost in my books. Instead of asking a tough question, or at least a statement, a hug fest evolved. To the outsider this looked like a Blue Jay Booster mom moment.
Also, the media shots with RPB in the background of the announcement of the MLS Cup gives the appearance the group is getting chummy and close with UM.
The supporter are less likely to ask real questions it would appear.
I only see one question being asked as a result : "How high?"

[Beach_Red]

If the media isn't holding the FO, upper management, accountable... then it's left to the supporters.

In reality, it's always been that way.

It's just not that common in NA sports.


Well, this kind of cross-league losing streak is unusual in NA cities. Sure, the Cubs haven't won in a long time and the Lions aren't Super Bowl contendors, but for one city to have ALL of its major teams show so little heart in big games is rare.

We're pioneers!

[Platts]

If JDG doesn't get his act together he is never going to play anywhere again.

[Parkdale]

... but I really dislike when people come on here and say that I am a true supporter and stick behind the team whether they are shite or not. We can still support but have our opinions and express our opinions.


very few people are saying that.

what people are saying is support the team first and then questioning management can come after that. It's our home opener today, and that should be about being loud for the guys on the field. That is priority #1, and after that is done, then we can talk about the other things we should be doing.

If the team is being shite, aren't we the first ones to know it? Believe me, if we start of with a L-L-L-L record like in last years, the management will be hearing it nice and loud from everyone.

[JonO]

JDG is right, why is it all over the world they do things like this. I have heard of many thing including fans storming in while they practice to get answers. There are so many things that have been done. I am not saying as fans we need to do this, but I really dislike when people come on here and say that I am a true supporter and stick behind the team whether they are shite or not. We can still support but have our opinions and express our opinions.

The position of the group is not incongruous with what you are saying. In my opinion, there is no need to protest/boo/whatever during the game. After the game is a different story.

JDG was expecting to have to confront the fans by the bus. My understanding is that the fans were expecting to confront the team at the hotel. The team snuck in the back. Next time, confrontation at the bus is a better idea...

[Beach_Red]

very few people are saying that.

what people are saying is support the team first and then questioning management can come after that. It's our home opener today, and that should be about being loud for the guys on the field. That is priority #1, and after that is done, then we can talk about the other things we should be doing.

If the team is being shite, aren't we the first ones to know it? Believe me, if we start of with a L-L-L-L record like in last years, the management will be hearing it nice and loud from everyone.


Has that ever really happened here, though? This board has always called out individual players. Is that "team first?" and questioning management after?

[Pookie]

But that's how it's always been. And I not talking about just about TFC. its the culture in this town. Everything is a love fest with upper management and ownership. Nobody is willing to take them to task when they can...

I can't say I agree completely with that.

As a long suffering Leaf fan, almost everything the Leafs do is painted with a negative brush. There are no shortage of writers/bloggers willing to take their shots (ie. Cox, Berger, etc).

I think the difference with TFC is that a number of factors contribute to a "less in depth" story line.

1. There aren't many knowledgeable writers that can comprehend and ask those questions. For example, many NHL scribes know the salary cap rules like the back of their hands. They can rake a GM over cap mismanagement or highlight troubles down the road. In the MLS, we live with unpublished team allocations as well as the potential to sell players. It's not an easy picture to understand, let alone describe.

2. The audience the write for is different. Again, using hockey as the example, it's a sport that a lot of people understand. They discuss the trap, or the left wing lock. They generally know the responsibilities of each position on the team and there is great debate around rule changes that could address shortcomings within the game.

There are those that understand this great game to that level of detail and more. But the average (homegrown) guy in 30's likely grew up playing soccer as a thing to do in the summer... if they couldn't play baseball. Baseball was the big thing. Soccer didn't get, and still doesn't get the respect from parents. If it did, they'd be lining up to demand a summit on the state of the CSA like they do any time we win a Silver medal in hockey.

3. Because it is new, I think many journalists who do care about the game are afraid to "bite the hand" this early in the game.

It's ok to knock the Leafs because you know they will sell out or if you get fired, you can work at another paper. If you are too critical of TFC, how many other jobs could you land? If your writing discourage people from coming to the games, how much longer is your paper going to want you to cover a team with declining interest?

[Goalie20]

Maybe we should have signed him as the CB? LOL

He could be no worse that Garcia!

[trane]

I am so glad to read the JDG article. Both on suppot and in some ways even more, about the tactical issue, untill this league develops tacticaly it will always be a lowr tier league. What is funny is that some USL sides look more advanced tacticaly, they may keep it simple but they keep it together. That is why they tend to do well against MLS sides.

[Pachuco]

He could be no worse that Garcia!

Well.....once upon a lifetime, in the wonderfull days of TFC's first season ever, I used to think that nobody could get worse then Adam Braz and Marco Reda. Shockingly to my surprise, along came Garcia and for more money to boot then both of them combined.

Never say never!

[Gazza]

Well.....once upon a lifetime, in the wonderfull days of TFC's first season ever, I used to think that nobody could get worse then Adam Braz and Marco Reda. Shockingly to my surprise, along came Garcia and for more money to boot then both of them combined.

Never say never!

Great point! Be careful what you bitch for.

[kitchener-TFC]

I liked the JDG article. There does need to be more of an emphasis on tactics, if not in the MLS as a whole, then at TFC.
Btw, I'm down with sitting infront of the team's bus :canada:. Do they bus home from the airport when they're coming back from places like Seattle and San Jose? haha

[Dave67]

From the bottom of page 2 of the National Post article. Good little recap of who is new (if you are having trouble remembering, like I am)


THE TFC MAKEOVER
Toronto FC's roster underwent a major facelift following the 2009 season. Here is a quick look at the comings and goings at BMO Field.


WHO'S IN
Adrian Cann, defender Thornhill native spent the last two seasons in the Danish domestic league.


Dan Gargan , defender 27-year-old utility player was signed in late March to give the club more depth.


Ty Harden, defender Signed in February, the Oregon native played seven games for Colorado last season.


Raivis Hscanovics, defender 23-year-old played the last three years in his native Latvia.


Nick LaBrocca, midfielder Acquired from Colorado for Wynne, he played more minutes than any other Rapids player last season.


Nane Joseph, midfielder Selected in the fourth round (53rd overall) in this year's MLS draft.


Jacob Peterson, midfielder Acquired from Colorado, the 24-year-old is coming back from a ate-season knee injury (torn ACL).


Martin Saric, midfielder Signed in March, he is expected to stabilize the
midfield after the loss of Robinson.

Shaughno - Skint... that articles seems to miss the new Ruski... I'll add him in then

Maksim Usanov. Usanov, 25, spent the last two seasons in his home country of Russia playing for FK Krasnodar.
"Max is another good young signing," Johnston said. "For us at the back, he attacks well, defends well."


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/04/12/sp-soccer-tfc-signings.html#ixzz0lC1PQsGj (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/04/12/sp-soccer-tfc-signings.html#ixzz0lC1PQsGj)



Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=2908181&p=2#ixzz0lBw9iooM (http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=2908181&p=2#ixzz0lBw9iooM)

[denime]

I am so glad to read the JDG article. Both on suppot and in some ways even more, about the tactical issue, untill this league develops tacticaly it will always be a lowr tier league. What is funny is that some USL sides look more advanced tacticaly, they may keep it simple but they keep it together. That is why they tend to do well against MLS sides.

Bingo!

I'm glad you pointed that out since everybody else here is more concern about seating in front of the bus.:rolleyes:

[Shaughno]

Skint... that articles seems to miss the new Ruski... Usanov.

[Whoop]

Can he even play yet?

[Dave67]

Skint... that articles seems to miss the new Ruski... Usanov.

Right, I have added him in. Here' I go again.


From the bottom of page 2 of the National Post article. Good little recap of who is new (if you are having trouble remembering, like I am)



THE TFC MAKEOVER
Toronto FC's roster underwent a major facelift following the 2009 season. Here is a quick look at the comings and goings at BMO Field.



WHO'S IN
Adrian Cann, defender Thornhill native spent the last two seasons in the Danish domestic league.



Dan Gargan , defender 27-year-old utility player was signed in late March to give the club more depth.



Ty Harden, defender Signed in February, the Oregon native played seven games for Colorado last season.



Raivis Hscanovics, defender 23-year-old played the last three years in his native Latvia.



Nick LaBrocca, midfielder Acquired from Colorado for Wynne, he played more minutes than any other Rapids player last season.



Nane Joseph, midfielder Selected in the fourth round (53rd overall) in this year's MLS draft.



Jacob Peterson, midfielder Acquired from Colorado, the 24-year-old is coming back from a ate-season knee injury (torn ACL).



Martin Saric, midfielder Signed in March, he is expected to stabilize the
midfield after the loss of Robinson.

Shaughno - Skint... that articles seems to miss the new Ruski... I'll add him in then

Maksim Usanov. Usanov, 25, spent the last two seasons in his home country of Russia playing for FK Krasnodar.
"Max is another good young signing," Johnston said. "For us at the back, he attacks well, defends well."


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/04/12/sp-soccer-tfc-signings.html#ixzz0lC1PQsGj (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/04/12/sp-soccer-tfc-signings.html#ixzz0lC1PQsGj)




Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=2908181&p=2#ixzz0lBw9iooM (http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=2908181&p=2#ixzz0lBw9iooM)

[Shaughno]

Good stuff. :D

[Whoop]

Can he play tonight though?

[denime]

Can he play tonight though?

No,Garcia will start again.:hide:

[Ron Manager]

I am so glad to read the JDG article. Both on suppot and in some ways even more, about the tactical issue, untill this league develops tacticaly it will always be a lowr tier league. What is funny is that some USL sides look more advanced tacticaly, they may keep it simple but they keep it together. That is why they tend to do well against MLS sides.


I honestly believe this is what Preki is trying to do...instil a system. Time will tell if he can do it with what we have.

[Whoop]

No, does Usanov have his papers yet? Is he available tonight?

[ManUtd4ever]

There is absolutely no excuse to start Garcia tonight with or without Usanov's visa. Seriously, Cann, Harden, and even Cronin are all available on the backline and none of them played against New England. If the unthinkable happens again tonight, you'll hear me starting a shitstorm from section 119 tonight...

[Dave67]

No, does Usanov have his papers yet? Is he available tonight?

I tried to figure it out. I am guessing yes he is available. Based on this comment at 12:47 in the lunch hour chat bit.

Asif Hossain:
TFC0309 - Gargan or Usanov are likely candidates at RB .

from here http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/04/home-opener

[TFCRegina]

Heh, the reason why we don't wait outside their bus after the game is because standards are so low right now that we consider even walking away with a 4-1 loss lucky.

[cincy]

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/04/home-opener

did anyone see tim90 strike again at 12:39 of the lunchtime chat ...lol

[KezmanCCCC]

Can anyone tell me how much is it to order Goltv or setanta through rogers? just as individual channels, i dont want any of thoughs theme packs...

[UltraSuperMegaMo]

Can anyone tell me how much is it to order Goltv or setanta through rogers? just as individual channels, i dont want any of thoughs theme packs...

Gol's cheap, like $3. Setanta's like $20. Gol's a good value at $3, but I watch way more Setanta.

[TFCRegina]

Setanta is expensive but totally worth it. I miss having Setanta. I'd just record games i couldn't watch, and catch up on them later. I think I watched about 80% of the games that were shown on the channel.

[Kaz]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100415/TOR_tor_sports_100415/20100415?hub=Canada&s_name=

Toronto #1 at losing