GRASS GRASS GRASS - is here!!! New Pics 3/31

[Parkdale]

dig it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290978.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290980.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290982.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290985.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290986.jpg

^ one guy working. Typical ;)

[Parkdale]

also - can someone save these files and host them in an alternate site in case my server overloads again?

[deltox]

i need hourly updates

[billyfly]

Yippie. Is this where I mention TFC's record on grass really sucks?

I hope we don't start missing the FieldTurf.

[Boondaddy]

dig it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290978.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290980.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290982.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290985.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290986.jpg

^ one guy working. Typical ;)

just like the team on Sat :rolleyes:

[Alonso]

Wow, I can't believe the great weather we're having... this bodes well for some quality turf come the home opener!

[Shaughno]

Saved them Parky, uploading once I get a chance....

[flatpicker]

I hope it turns a brighter shade of green in time for opening day.

[mastermixer]

Looks sweet... Anyone know if it will have a pattern?

[Steve]

Question that is unrelated to grass in any way:

What lens/Camera combination are you using to have such strong vignetting, or are you adding that after in pp?

[Parkdale]

Saved them Parky, uploading once I get a chance....

cheers, thanks. It's a backup really, and a lesson learned after my photos of the White Kit were passes all around.


Question that is unrelated to grass in any way:

What lens/Camera combination are you using to have such strong vignetting, or are you adding that after in pp?

I'm putting it on after in PS. Why? just so it looks a bit different than a boarding point-and-shoot.

[Don Julio]

That's gotta be fake vignetting. Too rectangular.

[Steve]

I'm putting it on after in PS. Why? just so it looks a bit different than a boarding point-and-shoot.

Haha, fair enough. I figured it was something like that (since most of your pics have the same effect) I just thought I'd ask.

[flatpicker]

That's gotta be fake vignetting. Too rectangular.


Don Smarty-pants

;)

[Steve]

That's gotta be fake vignetting. Too rectangular.

True, I just didn't want to come right out and say "that's fake" because some people might get offended. You know how it is.

[Technorgasm]

will this "fresh as day" surface be good to go for the home opener?

I hope its not a pock-marked mess after 30 minutes (ala L'impact)

[flatpicker]

will this "fresh as day" surface be good to go for the home opener?

I hope its not a pock-marked mess after 30 minutes (ala L'impact)

Don't worry, I hear they have brought in experts to maintain the grass.


http://blogs.e-rockford.com/askgeo/files/2009/11/chongcheech-chong.jpg

[drewski]

from Paulbeirne

http://img89.yfrog.com/img89/1989/anp.jpg

http://img26.yfrog.com/img26/9066/lvsw.jpg


stand is also coming along nicely it looks like

[billyfly]

Not one side of BMO's seating is even.

[billyfly]

I wonder if they'll paint anything on the North Stand's seats?

[Damien]

dig it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290980.jpg


wait, which side up?

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

from Paulbeirne

http://img89.yfrog.com/img89/1989/anp.jpg

http://img26.yfrog.com/img26/9066/lvsw.jpg


stand is also coming along nicely it looks like

that stand would make for a proper Supporter stand!:drinking:

[flatpicker]

^ I don't want to bring up that subject... it hurts too much

[mastermixer]

from Paulbeirne

http://img89.yfrog.com/img89/1989/anp.jpg

http://img26.yfrog.com/img26/9066/lvsw.jpg


stand is also coming along nicely it looks like

Thanks MLSE for allowing more fans to watch Garcia and the gang stink it up on the pitch this season. We see where your priorities were this off season. :rolleyes:

[SteeltownBhoy]

Mr Beirne

Would you consider a grass cam, so we can literally watch it grow!!!

[canadian_bhoy]

Mr Beirne

Would you consider a ass cam, so we can literally watch it grow!!!

What the?

[Parkdale]

Thanks MLSE for allowing more fans to watch Garcia and the gang stink it up on the pitch this season. We see where your priorities were this off season. :rolleyes:


and then there's people who will always look for the rain clouds on a sunny day.

[ManUtd4ever]

I love grass! And the new playing surface at BMO Field is nice too...

[SteeltownBhoy]

What the?

Mike, your hilarious, drinking heavily again!!!:D

[Wagner]

the grass will be fine for game day.

- BMO has a state of the art heating system for the grass.
- newly install and properly calibrated irrigation
- world class drainage (USGA calibre)
- a couple of the top companies involved in the Turf and Sportsfield game are installing.
- Mother Nature is on their side, weather isn't forecasting any colder than today for the next 2 weeks.
- some well timed Nitrogen Fertilizer and the field will be super green.

I never thought I'd see this day.

[Don Julio]

Don Smarty-pants

;)

I could tell from some of the pixels, plus I've seen quite a few fake vignettes in my day. :D

[Carts]

North Stand is coming in great... Will look awesome when full...

Grass looks dead - they need that MIRACLE GROW stuff... :)

Carts...

[Don Julio]

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/CAON0696

I believe God has elected to greet our new surface with open arms.

It's going to be f'ing 23 this weekend!

[Parkdale]

I could tell from some of the pixels, plus I've seen quite a few fake vignettes in my day. :D


http://knowyourmeme.com/i/24183/original/500pxShopped.jpg



^ was this made for you? did you know about this before you posted? because it was almost MADE for you!

[canadian_bhoy]

North Stand is coming in great... Will look awesome when full...

Grass looks dead - they need that MIRACLE GROW stuff... :)

Carts...

E-KRHxWBnq8

[reggie]

is it me....but it looks to me that the field ended closer to the wall in the north end..
are the dimensions of the field the same?

[Daveisonfire]

Put the inner glow away Parky...put...it...away

Edit: I see it's already been brought up haha

[Parkdale]

Put the inner glow away Parky...put...it...away

must... plastic... wrap.... edges.....

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2303/3441/30756720035_large.jpg

[TorCanSoc]

If I admit...uh... uhm... "it moved" based on rolls of grass is that creepy?


:)

[Parkdale]

very creepy. please do not go anywhere near bmo, ever.

[Darlofletch]

North Stand is coming in great... Will look awesome when full...

Grass looks dead - they need that MIRACLE GROW stuff... :)

Carts...

were you not watching the game on saturday with the same commercials repeated again and again and again.

Scotts turf builder is the way to go. no sand, no gravel, just pure nutrition. any good father in law knows that!

[TorCanSoc]

OK. I'll contain my excitement then.

Awesome stuff man. Keep up the pics come'n.


(p.s. Just finished two weeks of Photoshop in college, holy crap I suck at photoshop)

[Carts]

were you not watching the game on saturday with the same commercials repeated again and again and again.

Scotts turf builder is the way to go. no sand, no gravel, just pure nutrition. any good father in law knows that!

LOL!!!

Unfortunately, I had to watch online from San Jose - so I saw Columbus broadcast which meant the same commericals repeated over & over for cheap liquor, payday loans, and gun shops... :D

Carts...

[Wagner]

The Grass isn't dead....it's dormant.

it'll be fine. there are products out there that will perk the grass right up, specifically Nitrogen heavy fertilizers.

The system at BMO rivals any other pro-sports natural grass set-up.

[rocker]

is it me....but it looks to me that the field ended closer to the wall in the north end..
are the dimensions of the field the same?

nope it's the same. they kept the exact concrete perimeter that was already there.

a quick look at google maps confirms this for me.

remember the old turf went to that concrete, and then they put black padding down for another few feet on the concrete to protect the players.

[reggie]

great thx rocker...

[Parkdale]

for cheap liquor, payday loans, and gun shops..


it's one stop shopping!

Kind of like the 'Ammo-Porn-Liquor' superstores you see in the south.

the 'order of consumption' is what makes it fun!

[Carts]

The Grass isn't dead....it's dormant.

it'll be fine. there are products out there that will perk the grass right up, specifically Nitrogen heavy fertilizers.

The system at BMO rivals any other pro-sports natural grass set-up.

Dude, I was joking!

I mentioned Miracle Grow etc... Smiley face etc...

I know MLSE paid for a top-notch system & mother nature is cooperating as well...

Carts...

[Parkdale]

remember the old turf went to that concrete, and then they put black padding down for another few feet on the concrete to protect the players.

the black padding is stacked in the back of BMO. It may be going back in. Makes sense to keep that around the grass.

[Carts]

it's one stop shopping!

Kind of like the 'Ammo-Porn-Liquor' superstores you see in the south.

the 'order of consumption' is what makes it fun!

LOL! What order would you go for Parkie...??? :D

Carts...

[Parkdale]

LOL! What order would you go for Parkie...??? :D

Carts...


first the hooch, then fire off some guns while drunk, then fire off myself while wasted.
Next day, get another payday loan and do it all again!

[Toronto Ruffrider]

is it me....but it looks to me that the field ended closer to the wall in the north end..
are the dimensions of the field the same?

There are two new rows in front of the wall at the north end, so the gap between the pitch and north-end seats is now smaller.

http://img89.yfrog.com/img89/1989/anp.jpg

[MTomas]

I hope they don't forget to buy a lawn mower.

Are they going with John Deere or Honda or Yardworks?

[Chevy]

I hope they don't forget to buy a lawn mower.

Are they going with John Deere or Honda or Yardworks?


Answer below....

http://www.garcialandscaping.com/garciaheader02.jpg

[Lucky Strike]

the grass will be fine for game day.

- BMO has a state of the art heating system for the grass.
- newly install and properly calibrated irrigation
- world class drainage (USGA calibre)
- a couple of the top companies involved in the Turf and Sportsfield game are installing.
- Mother Nature is on their side, weather isn't forecasting any colder than today for the next 2 weeks.
- some well timed Nitrogen Fertilizer and the field will be super green.

I never thought I'd see this day.

That's my feeling as well. For all the criticism of MLSE (justly or no), this is one thing they've done very well. It isn't just a big bag of Scott's Turfbuilder they're putting down like in Montreal.

[Toronto Ruffrider]

I hope they don't forget to buy a lawn mower.

Are they going with John Deere or Honda or Yardworks?

Every time TFC loses, the players should have to mow the lawn using push mowers. Just an added incentive to not screw up.:D

[Lucky Strike]

If I admit...uh... uhm... "it moved" based on rolls of grass is that creepy?


:)

Are you sure it wasn't just a shift? :D

[Lucky Strike]

P.S. Do we know what "pattern" will be used on the grass? I know there used to be a thread about which we'd like to see, but has a decision been made on that front?

[dantdot]

Wileman's pic http://twitpic.com/1broe6

http://web11.twitpic.com/img/80233278-e009acaf48f46d2bea85abc543d5afa6.4bb0d129-scaled.jpg

[Bloor West FC]

This is awesome!! I just had a tear in my eye :). Is it just the one color of grass? Or is it going to be a design?

[reggie]

paul we need another picture please...im getting withdrawal symptoms...

[Parkdale]

This is awesome!! I just had a tear in my eye :). Is it just the one color of grass? Or is it going to be a design?


the grass is always just one colour (because you only use strain), but how it's move (or 'manscaped' if you will) determines the pattern.

[Daveisonfire]

amazing :)

[drewski]

P.S. Do we know what "pattern" will be used on the grass? I know there used to be a thread about which we'd like to see, but has a decision been made on that front?


I hope it something that doesn't accentuate the dead spot of grass caused by Garcia not moving the entire game.

[Wagner]

the grass is always just one colour (because you only use strain), but how it's move (or 'manscaped' if you will) determines the pattern.

exactly.
http://www.scag.com/lawnstriping.html
The following explains how lawn striping works and what can be done to increase the lawn striping effect.

The "stripes" that you see on a lawn or athletic field are caused by light reflecting off the blades of grass. It has not been cut at a different height nor is it a different breed of grass. The "stripes" are made by bending the blades of grass in different directions.

It's kind of like when you run your hand against upholstery or carpet.

[Wagner]

Dude, I was joking!

I mentioned Miracle Grow etc... Smiley face etc...

I know MLSE paid for a top-notch system & mother nature is cooperating as well...

Carts...

I know you know. :)

but i'd bet dollars to donuts that someone would post "WTF, they are installing Dead Grass...those cheapskates at MLSE...":facepalm:

[Parkdale]

WTF, they are installing Dead Grass...those cheapskates at MLSE














:D

[Wagner]

http://www.bluetreeservices.co.uk/driverShakingFist.jpg

[Daveisonfire]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/80233278.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1269885491&Signature=2wrSEBwrjd0rvXAuGSj4JHt6A5k%3D
http://twitpic.com/1broe6

<3

[Parkdale]

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/128856665520107941.jpg

[Kevvv]

exactly.
http://www.scag.com/lawnstriping.html
The following explains how lawn striping works and what can be done to increase the lawn striping effect.

The "stripes" that you see on a lawn or athletic field are caused by light reflecting off the blades of grass. It has not been cut at a different height nor is it a different breed of grass. The "stripes" are made by bending the blades of grass in different directions.

It's kind of like when you run your hand against upholstery or carpet.


Scag - what a great name

[mlsintoronto]

I hope they don't forget to buy a lawn mower.

Are they going with John Deere or Honda or Yardworks?

Toro.

[Daveisonfire]

Toro.

More pics :flare:

[SteeltownBhoy]

Where they grow that grass..Nunavut!!!!!!!!

[AL-MO]

BC needs to do a jig on it to officially Christen it. :D

@ 3:20

4y_NTxxHigI

[Boondaddy]

I hope it something that doesn't accentuate the dead spot of grass caused by Garcia not moving the entire game.


damn, this was my joke too...I'm a little too late.

lol

[Suds]

I hope it something that doesn't accentuate the dead spot of grass caused by Garcia not moving the entire game.


http://www.jennyreviews.com/wp-content/files/patch-perfect.jpg

[Parkdale]

Where they grow that grass..Nunavut!!!!!!!!


hahaha... what are you talking about?

[Wagner]

hahaha... what are you talking about?

I think he's referring to the dormant state, looking sick or "dead."

I think I win.
:flare:

[rocker]

story on this...

our pitch is GETTING LAID... sexy!

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100329&content_id=8985018&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

[Parkdale]

so... can they take down the 'field turf' advertisement on the south wall of BMO now?

[Redcoe15]

How long does it take sod to set into the ground? I worry that the turf will get chewed up after the home opener.

Other than that, lookin' good. :thumbsup:

[Parkdale]

How long does it take sod to set into the ground? I worry that the turf will get chewed up after the home opener.

Other than that, lookin' good. :thumbsup:


sounds like everything is on track. As long as it sets properly, it will be good and hardy grass.

It's weird - I'm starting to look at a bunch of grass around the area and think 'were you sod, or seed?'

[Shaughno]

sounds like everything is on track. As long as it sets properly, it will be good and hardy grass.

It's weird - I'm starting to look at a bunch of grass around the area and think 'were you sod, or seed?'

http://www.wolfescape.com/Humour/NonMedPicts/TiredIrritableSodOff.gif

[Gixmo]

I feel particularly attached to the pitch, as it was grown very close to my Grandma's home in Cookstown. What a beautiful site!

[Wagner]

there will be no problem with shifting/setting/etc...
look at the Real Madrid game...that was temporary sod...and it didn't shift.
and this is permanent...and it has almost 3 weeks to take root.
and along with the heated coils, the vacuum drainage, nutritional supplements/soil ammendments.

[Shaughno]

So what you're saying Wagner... is we should go and plant a bunch of stuff prior to the home game???

http://blog.mlive.com/saginawnews_impact/2008/04/large_JNS.MarijuanaRaid2.jpg

[SteeltownBhoy]

I feel particularly attached to the pitch, as it was grown very close to my Grandma's home in Cookstown. What a beautiful site!

Well see there you have it. You just can't beat home grown!!

[Don Julio]

I would pay $10 for a 2-day pass to watch them lay sod - if concessions were open. Missing a real opportunity here.

Edit: I would definitely settle for BYOB.

[Parkdale]

I would pay $10 for a 2-day pass.... here.


don't give them any ideas!!!

[Red Rat]

WE don't need fertilizer we just need to pump some Lake ontario water and this grass will be so green that it will even glow at night...
http://www.jennyreviews.com/wp-content/files/patch-perfect.jpg

[rocker]

i just worry the seagulls are gonna pick the crap out of this field looking for worms. is bitchy gonna be there 24/7 now?

[Shaughno]

I would pay $10 for a 2-day pass to watch them lay sod - if concessions were open. Missing a real opportunity here.

Edit: I would definitely settle for BYOB.


Bring your own Buds? Seems like the perfect theme for a grass laying event...

[Wagner]

i just worry the seagulls are gonna pick the crap out of this field looking for worms. is bitchy gonna be there 24/7 now?

Do you see a lot of worms on Golf Greens??

that's basically what the team will be playing on...
except change the Bentgrass to BlueGrass.

[rocker]

Do you see a lot of worms on Golf Greens??
.

i don't golf.

but i see a helluva lot of seagulls down by the lake... and canadian geese shitting all over the place. hope they don't take up residency at BMO.

[Suds]

i don't golf.

but i see a helluva lot of seagulls down by the lake... and canadian geese shitting all over the place. hope they don't take up residency at BMO.


no worries ... all the fans can take care of that during Daisy's BB-Gun day at BMO

http://home.comcast.net/%7Essame/PhotoChange/12-24-08%20Matthew%20BB%20gun%20%287%29.JPG

[denime]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290986.jpg

Union at work :D :hide:

[rocker]

TFC TV has its first full episode up.. it includes a video from the grass farm as they cut the rolls.

the company is Zander Sod

http://www.zandersod.com/index.htm

[Smuttynose]

haha! Parky, Boris and Rooney are in the first episode!

media whores :cool:

[Keystone FC]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P3290986.jpg

Union at work :D :hide:
Are you sure these aren't some last minute signings by Mo? The one in the brown jacket could be our new DP.

[Bloor West FC]

I got some nice pics just a few minutes ago but need to learn how to post them on here. Its 3 1/4 done!!!!

[rocker]

I got some nice pics just a few minutes ago but need to learn how to post them on here. Its 3 1/4 done!!!!

hurry up. need more crack

[Bloor West FC]

How do I add the photos on this page LOL????

[SuckerTash]

I'm thinking of walking over in a little bit... got a long lens on me today I'd like to try out.

[Red Rat]

use another host it is easier

[rocker]

How do I add the photos on this page LOL????

create an account on photobucket.com. after you upload the pics it'll give you [IMG] links.. just cut and paste those links into the message.

[Parkdale]

I'm thinking of walking over in a little bit... got a long lens on me today I'd like to try out.


where are you walking? Parliament and Jarvis?

[Red Rat]

where are you walking? Parliament and Jarvis?
he is going to need a lot more than a lens for that

rr

[Troll]

I got some nice pics just a few minutes ago but need to learn how to post them on here. Its 3 1/4 done!!!!



Math fail.




:picard:

[jcplante]

Bloor West - You need to upload the pictures on a site like Flickr or Photobucket and then in here - you click on the insert image icon in the reply box and enter the URL of the image.

[Bloor West FC]

Bloor West - You need to upload the pictures on a site like Flickr or Photobucket and then in here - you click on the insert image icon in the reply box and enter the URL of the image.


Ahhh ok cool, upoading on flikr now :).

Cheers

[SuckerTash]

Not that long baby.

*sigh*

[Bloor West FC]

ok here come the photos.

wait wait wait I am sucky on this internet thing. enter the URL what? I just added photos to flickr what is the url LOL

[Bloor West FC]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/RPB_Boy/CIMG2805.jpg
hope this works

[Bloor West FC]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/RPB_Boy/CIMG2798.jpg

[deltox]

it worked....now put more there

[Bloor West FC]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/RPB_Boy/CIMG2803.jpg

[Bloor West FC]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/RPB_Boy/CIMG2799.jpg

[billyfly]

I hope they've figured out the washer thing for the North Stand.

[Bloor West FC]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/RPB_Boy/CIMG2795.jpg

[Bloor West FC]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/RPB_Boy/CIMG2797.jpg

[Bloor West FC]

It was nice to see :)

[kodiakTFC]

Shots Shots Shots!

[Bloor West FC]

The new seats are really on a super angle!

[billyfly]

Where do the 7,000 new seats go?.......................

[Red Rat]

Where do the 7,000 new seats go?.......................

two choices
rework the east end or on top of the south.

rr

[billyfly]

I know we've talked about it a hundred times on these boards over the years but I always believed that they want to maintain the view of the City and therefore wouldn't touch the East side.

[billyfly]

MLSE kept saying today (and previously) they want to provide an "authentic" footy atmosphere.

My question (on behalf of Flush) does that mean a roof?

[deltox]

new seats could go in the corners, second level over the south.... and they could go second level over the east...but they prolly wouldnt

[Bloor West FC]

The view is nice but more fans is much better.

I personally think the next step would be over the south end so they can extend the boxes and keep the same hallway for them.

[Red Rat]

this is why I believe that the only choice will be the south end, there is room to do it but price point is not logical. Why build more cheap seats?

rr

[billyfly]

this is why I believe that the only choice will be the south end, there is room to do it but price point is not logical. Why build more cheap seats?

rr

That my friend is what scares me. They can change the price on us if they needed to...

[Bloor West FC]

Because the louder and more percentage of fans want the lower price. Its all about the south end :)

[dantdot]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4930/q1j.jpg

[Red Rat]

That my friend is what scares me. They can change the price on us if they needed to...
I wonder if the North end was build for a different plan?
as to move a few people there after the south end gets expanded?
rr

[billyfly]

I will borrow Romans 11:34

"Who has known the mind of (MLSE)?"

[Bloor West FC]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4930/q1j.jpg

nice pic.

[deltox]

the corporate suites is the key here.... they make A LOT OF MONEY.

any big expansion has to include them. the south will get extended first

[Red Rat]

I will borrow Romans 11:34

"Who has known the mind of (MLSE)?"

This is perfect!!! it is MLSE!!!


they new about the expansion 2 years ago, so from that point on they started thinking ahead.
Get grass and 1200 more seats then expand to 27000 at which point make amends good with the fans, have a great field lots of money coming in but fall short on the team,,, hmmmm sounds familiar

rr

[Pookie]

Here are a few from today as well.

View from behind 111/112:


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8659/stands3.png


View from behind the North Stand:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1360/stands.png

View from 104:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9703/stands2.png

[KiwiRedsFan]

Yay, finally. Hope the team wins more because of it!
Congrats

[mastermixer]

Question... does anyone know what the purpose of those brick buildings are on each side of the north stands? Would have been really good if they could connect the east and west stands together.

[Suds]

Question... does anyone know what the purpose of those brick buildings are on each side of the north stands? Would have been really good if they could connect the east and west stands together.

corporate promo boxes

Rogers was using the one on the east side of the beer garden last year.

[rocker]

now that i see the north stand from the south, it looks like they could definitely "fill in" if they someday decide to tear down those brick buildings. They could start a curve right where the new stand ends on either side, curving in either direction towards the northeast and northwest stands.

[drexel10]

now that i see the north stand from the south, it looks like they could definitely "fill in" if they someday decide to tear down those brick buildings. They could start a curve right where the new stand ends on either side, curving in either direction towards the northeast and northwest stands.

and move corporate/promo suites on top.

[boban]

two choices
rework the east end or on top of the south.

rr
not or.
Both/and.

[stretchthetruth]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4930/q1j.jpg


BONER

[rocker]

bump.. are they done installation yet?

[James17930]

WHEN WILL IT START GROWING???????!!!!!!!

Arrrrgghhhh.

:)

[rocker]

they should have a grass cam.

[James17930]

they should have a grass cam.

And I think we are literally the only people in the world who would actually enjoy watching something like that :lol:

[Alonso]

Hahaha ^^^^ And we'd probably watch the thing 24/7

:D

[drewski]

how about a "how much will the grass grow before opening day" pool?

[Parkdale]

right!

I totally forgot about sprinklers! I can wait to see little rainbows in the mist over our turf on a summer day.

[deltox]

time lapse video

http://torontofc.neulion.com/tfc/console.jsp?catid=2&id=1733

[billyfly]

Canada's National Soccer Stadium has grass.

[Auzzy]

Yeah Grass Cam !!!1!one!

[rocker]

nice video.. i notice a sprinkler spraying from the centre of the field.... how do they cover it so that players don't step on it during the match?

[Phil]

nice video.. i notice a sprinkler spraying from the centre of the field.... how do they cover it so that players don't step on it during the match?

There is a meter of grass surrounding the field that has the sprinklers sunk in.

This is a pic of it:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4480673532_67f4da5c8d_b.jpg

[Phil]

View from 115

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4480014313_c4395e846b_b.jpg

From 112
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4480660736_84718a5f1d_b.jpg

Players Bench
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4480660040_745550c833_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4480659140_eb72eaec6e_b.jpg

[Phil]

North stand
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4480657914_99d64e5d78_b.jpg

Up Close
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/4480662478_ba34272fe4_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2691/4480661524_9927479654_b.jpg

[Cashcleaner]

http://img26.yfrog.com/img26/9066/lvsw.jpg

I swear, I get all misty-eyed when I see that North Stand getting built. It's really coming along nicely.

[James17930]

Still too bad about the concrete around the sidelines. Oh well -- nothing's perfect :)

Now we just have to wait for that stuff to green up and we're good to go :)

[Shakes McQueen]

It brings a tear to my eye, watching our little soccer stadium growing up. :D

- Scott

[Shakes McQueen]

And I won't lie - I will probably get a partial chubby when I see the first picture of BMO Field under the summer sun, grass looking a nice shade of bright green, with the sprinklers creating a fine mist with rainbows.

- Scott

[Phil]

Additional North seating

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4480721572_8fab6e4e81_b.jpg

[Phil]

It smells like grass there too.

The stadium feels much better :D

[Boris]

i have to admit...im just as impressed with the north seating (and 2 additional rows up front) as i am with the grass. Our stadium is really starting to look complete

[Shakes McQueen]

I can't wait to see what she looks like with everything cleaned up and ready to go.

- Scott

[TorCanSoc]

The grass.... she calls to me. I'm going to rub triple mix on my naked body, and make love to the peeeetch!!!


What? Too much? :)

[denime]

Players Bench
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4480660040_745550c833_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4480659140_eb72eaec6e_b.jpg


Players benches seems to be very close to sidelines,I'm sure there will be some funny scenes down the road,as long our players are not disappearing in those dugouts I'll be ok ;)

[Oblio2]

At least now when people throw flares, the "grass" wont melt

[T.O TILL I DIE]

alright, for the north end seating will it just be plain silver or will it be painted red like the rest of the stadium.

[Krasno.pL.]

Im curious as to how much grass will be left outside the touchlines.. that concrete would be killer...

[Shakes McQueen]

Im curious as to how much grass will be left outside the touchlines.. that concrete would be killer...

My guess is they will put down some padding on match day.

- Scott

[Krasno.pL.]

My guess is they will put down some padding on match day.

- Scott

Oh wells right... at least we got GRASS ::drum::flare::drum::scarf:

[Phil]

Im curious as to how much grass will be left outside the touchlines.. that concrete would be killer...

A meter all the way around.

[billyfly]

What kind of barrier will they put between the additional North Stand seating and the pitch?

http://img26.yfrog.com/img26/9066/lvsw.jpg

[Shakes McQueen]

I heard they were just going to install a moat.

- Scott

[billyfly]

With sharks with laser beams?

http://mp.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451d22169e2011168f7c48e970c-250wi

[Krasno.pL.]

A meter all the way around.

Cheers.. meter should be plenty.. rainy days on the other hand :P haha

:D:scarf:

[rocker]

There is a meter of grass surrounding the field that has the sprinklers sunk in.

This is a pic of it:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4480673532_67f4da5c8d_b.jpg

but in the time lapse video I see a sprinkler sprinkling from centrefield... not just from the edges... is that a portable one with a hose, perhaps?

[FOGES]

its gonna look beautiful when the grass is green and the north seats are fully installed.

cant wait to see what they'll do with the north end seats...if they dont go with a logo/sponsor or just red seats, it would be sweet if they did red and dark grey bars to resemble the SSH scarf this year. the whole north end would look like a giant TFC bar scarf!!!! ya dig?

[denime]

alright, for the north end seating will it just be plain silver or will it be painted red like the rest of the stadium.

Red Chairs will be mounted on top. ;)

[Parkdale]

Players Bench
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4480660040_745550c833_b.jpg




AKA - The Trenches.

[Phil]

BTW, thats rubber on those steps to ensure you dont go slip sliding away.

[denime]

BTW, thats rubber on those steps to ensure you dont go slip sliding away.

But that only on our bench,right?Who cares about away team,let them slide away.:D

[Oldtimer]

they should have a grass cam.


And I think we are literally the only people in the world who would actually enjoy watching something like that :lol:

So true. Remember everyone watching the construction cam when BMO Field was being built? People would keep logging in frequently to see how things were going, and we had threads on the old board detailing the progress.

Once TFC realized what crazy fans they have, they did their part to accommodate us. :)

[Daveisonfire]

via PB's twitter:
http://img249.yfrog.com/img249/2091/pqz.jpg

[Shaughno]

Weyyyyyyyyy!

[Auzzy]

Here's what else I read there:

--------------------------------------

Paulbeirne (http://twitter.com/Paulbeirne)
Finalizing plans and approvals for roof structure for south seats. Finally! about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/Paulbeirne/status/11421575234) via Tweetie (http://www.atebits.com/)

--------------------------------------

:-O WTH?! Although another tweet has a picture that's supposedly related to the roof, but I don't get it (it's actually a picture of the dugouts)...

[Daveisonfire]

^ April Fools day............

[Section 117]

^^^ I think Paul is pulling our collective leg

[crofty]

Here's what else I read there:

--------------------------------------

Paulbeirne (http://twitter.com/Paulbeirne)
Finalizing plans and approvals for roof structure for south seats. Finally! about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/Paulbeirne/status/11421575234) via Tweetie (http://www.atebits.com/)

--------------------------------------

:-O WTH?! Although another tweet has a picture that's supposedly related to the roof, but I don't get it (it's actually a picture of the dugouts)...



possible april fools??

[Auzzy]

Oops...

[billyfly]

^Why would Paul play with Flush's heart like that?

[Shaughno]

^Why would Paul play with Flush's heart like that?

He's pushing Flush to use "Don't break my heart" as a supporters song...


:rofl:

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Here's what else I read there:

--------------------------------------

Paulbeirne (http://twitter.com/Paulbeirne)
Finalizing plans and approvals for roof structure for south seats. Finally! about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/Paulbeirne/status/11421575234) via Tweetie (http://www.atebits.com/)

--------------------------------------

:-O WTH?! Although another tweet has a picture that's supposedly related to the roof, but I don't get it (it's actually a picture of the dugouts)...

not even funny......:D


but at least he has it on his mind...:drinking:



Grass at bmo.......DERO And DEGUZMAN both with TFC....TFC VS REAL MADRID

who would if thought this 2 years ago....

anything is possible...:)

[boban]

Still too bad about the concrete around the sidelines. Oh well -- nothing's perfect :)
I was thinking the same thing.
Especially around the players benches and behind the goal (for warm up).

[boban]

alright, for the north end seating will it just be plain silver or will it be painted red like the rest of the stadium.
Where do you see red paint anywhere in the stadium in the seating parts?

[billyfly]

^I think he means red seats.

[flatpicker]

Teasing about a roof... that's cruel!

[Parkdale]

Teasing about a roof... that's cruel!

you know what..... the more I think about it.... the more I'm in the anti-roof camp.

other than better sound, what's another advantage? And don't say shade, because that's a debatable point.
In my 223 seats, as soon as the sun sets behind the 'Bitch Perch' it drops 10' immediately.
People in 112 are baking away on a nice summer day, and the 200's are getting a cold breeze!

[Daveisonfire]

you know what..... the more I think about it.... the more I'm in the anti-roof camp.

other than better sound, what's another advantage? And don't say shade, because that's a debatable point.
In my 223 seats, as soon as the sun sets behind the 'Bitch Perch' it drops 10' immediately.
People in 112 are baking away on a nice summer day, and the 200's are getting a cold breeze!

When you're bouncing and doing your thing you do tend to get pretty hot...you know that Parky

They could always turn on the sprinklers though lol

[flatpicker]

you know what..... the more I think about it.... the more I'm in the anti-roof camp.

other than better sound, what's another advantage? And don't say shade, because that's a debatable point.
In my 223 seats, as soon as the sun sets behind the 'Bitch Perch' it drops 10' immediately.
People in 112 are baking away on a nice summer day, and the 200's are getting a cold breeze!


We are always at our worst as supporters when the weather is hot and sunny.
It sucks the life out of us!

Cool damp weather is best.
And sure, a roof would shelter many of us from the rain,
But the mere sight of rain somehow seems to inspire youthful enthusiasm.

I think that after weighing the pros and cons... a roof is better than no roof.

[icecoldbeer]

^ April Fools day............

Son of a b****!!! :D

[onemanbarmyarmy]

I almost started calling people to tell them about the roof. Boo-eirene's.

[Daveisonfire]

Looks like he was refering to roof over the southerly players seats.

[billyfly]

^That's what I thought. Most likely advertising?

[Krasno.pL.]

^That's what I thought. Most likely advertising?

What you mean on top??
I think they'd go with the clear plexi stuff?

[billyfly]

Why? That's space to slap an ad on.

http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/google-bench-ad.0.jpg

[boban]

you know what..... the more I think about it.... the more I'm in the anti-roof camp.

other than better sound, what's another advantage? And don't say shade, because that's a debatable point.
In my 223 seats, as soon as the sun sets behind the 'Bitch Perch' it drops 10' immediately.
People in 112 are baking away on a nice summer day, and the 200's are getting a cold breeze!

uhhhh rain?!!

[Cowboy905]

a part of me wishes they extended a couple rows of seats in the north end ABOVE the party boxes just to fill in the north.....i'm sure that could have been done? support the ceiling in those boxes and put a couple rows of seats up there over the structures....like Wrigley Field to an extent

http://snaggingbaseballs.mlblogs.com/assets_c/2009/04/7_waveland_from_above-thumb-550x412-1079691.jpg

maybe in years to come....looks relatively inexpensive.

[rocker]

a roof over the south end may not protect from the sun, since the sun will get lower in the northwest and shine into your eyes anyway. Now, if they built a roof across the whole west stand, wrapping around to the northwest corner, that would probably block the sun for the southern seats.

In terms of rain, I think the best supporters' "energy" has been during rainy games when everyone was getting soaked.

[onemanbarmyarmy]

On first glance it looks like they did nothing to help the fact that none of the stands line up with each other. Neither height nor angle. Maybe I am missing something but it seems most logical to fill corners during the next expansion yet the layout looks too awkward. Maybe I am not seeing the big picture.

[Krasno.pL.]

Why? That's space to slap an ad on.

http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/google-bench-ad.0.jpg

If theres an opportunity , im sure someone will grab that up.

[flatpicker]

On first glance it looks like they did nothing to help the fact that none of the stands line up with each other. Neither height nor angle. Maybe I am missing something but it seems most logical to fill corners during the next expansion yet the layout looks too awkward. Maybe I am not seeing the big picture.


I don't think it's a big deal.
If they want to expand seating, they could simply make the North End full size
(rather than the mini-stand they're putting in now)

As for all the stands being different sizes... they could just build individual roofs like a lot of traditional grounds.

Like this for instance:
http://images.teamtalk.com/09/11/800x600/Notts-County-stadium_2382963.jpg

[Torontotonto]

I agree Parky.
Prefer no roof on BMO, it reminds me of the ball stadium.
Lot's of spring games we froze our butts off.
But the crowd was never as energetic as TFC fans.



you know what..... the more I think about it.... the more I'm in the anti-roof camp.

other than better sound, what's another advantage? And don't say shade, because that's a debatable point.
In my 223 seats, as soon as the sun sets behind the 'Bitch Perch' it drops 10' immediately.
People in 112 are baking away on a nice summer day, and the 200's are getting a cold breeze!

[Waggy]

3000 organized fans with a roof are LOUD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rfihh4xrjU

I dont think the whole stadium needs one, but theres no reason the south end doesnt have a little something. besides, when its 30+, a 4pm game is a KILLER, esp if you've had a drink. it's really really hard to keep energy up when the sun is just draining literally everything from you.

[Super]

you know what..... the more I think about it.... the more I'm in the anti-roof camp.

other than better sound, what's another advantage? And don't say shade, because that's a debatable point.
In my 223 seats, as soon as the sun sets behind the 'Bitch Perch' it drops 10' immediately.
People in 112 are baking away on a nice summer day, and the 200's are getting a cold breeze!

Everyone is standing in the south end. If it gets cold there's a great fix available: jump, chant, get active. Still, though, I don't care about any other factor than sound. I sing my head off at every game, and it kills me that it's all for very little. Slap a roof on top of the south end and we'd have an atmosphere fit for a top European league. Seriously!

Now, the question really is: do TFC value good atmosphere? So far: no. They'll sell it as part of the product, and say that they appreciate it, but they won't invest cash to make it many times better PLUS give supporters a bit of help to better coordinate chants. Also, with a roof, you don't have to chant as loudly to make an impact - which would be nice as well. It's time for TFC to put in a bit to help out with the atmosphere.

[Shakes McQueen]

On first glance it looks like they did nothing to help the fact that none of the stands line up with each other. Neither height nor angle. Maybe I am missing something but it seems most logical to fill corners during the next expansion yet the layout looks too awkward. Maybe I am not seeing the big picture.

They've already previously stated it isn't possible to fill the corners, due to regulations.

The best they can do is individual roofs over each stand, which is fine by me - many team grounds are configured this way.

- Scott

[rocker]

Everyone is standing in the south end. If it gets cold there's a great fix available: jump, chant, get active. Still, though, I don't care about any other factor than sound. I sing my head off at every game, and it kills me that it's all for very little. Slap a roof on top of the south end and we'd have an atmosphere fit for a top European league. Seriously!

Now, the question really is: do TFC value good atmosphere? So far: no. They'll sell it as part of the product, and say that they appreciate it, but they won't invest cash to make it many times better PLUS give supporters a bit of help to better coordinate chants. Also, with a roof, you don't have to chant as loudly to make an impact - which would be nice as well. It's time for TFC to put in a bit to help out with the atmosphere.

well if the stadium is going to be expanded, (as one of the MLSE dudes hinted at last week) then there's no reason to have a roof now. It's got nothing to do with TFC not valuing the atmosphere. It'd be dumb to build a roof now and then have to rip it off when they expand the stadium.

secondly, what do you mean by the "it's all for very little" line. The south end already sounds massive as it is. Yes, louder is better but I don't think we should sell the south end short here. I sit in 125 -- so diagonally across -- and the south end is very very loud.

[Super]

well if the stadium is going to be expanded, (as one of the MLSE dudes hinted at last week) then there's no reason to have a roof now. It's got nothing to do with TFC not valuing the atmosphere. It'd be dumb to build a roof now and then have to rip it off when they expand the stadium.

secondly, what do you mean by the "it's all for very little" line. The south end already sounds massive as it is. Yes, louder is better but I don't think we should sell the south end short here. I sit in 125 -- so diagonally across -- and the south end is very very loud.

Trust me, I know the difference between chanting under a roof - and chanting without one. It's very discouraging to feel as though the sound is not spreading properly - and that sections right next to mine (I'm in 112) can't hear us, etc.. A roof solves this problem - AND it makes the volume that much higher.

There are stadiums in the 3rd division in Norway with roofs, so I don't think I'm asking for too much - it's the very minimum for a supporter to ask for a roof. Expansion may happen, but when? Could be a long time from now. 5-10 years. Slap that roof on there now and be done with it. If you need to expand you just move the roof. Can't be THAT big of a problem/expense.

[Huyton]

When it comes time to enlarge the south stand, I hope they don't put a second deck on it. I hope it is a single large bank of seats.

The South Stand should be One Voice, under roof, indivisible.

[AL-MO]

When it comes time to enlarge the south stand, I hope they don't put a second deck on it. I hope it is a single large bank of seats.

The South Stand should be One Voice, under roof, indivisible.

I don't know man...a second deck would be pretty badass.

Think of the possibilities!

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6486/0tifo3pk.jpg
(well not that big, but you get the idea)

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

3000 organized fans with a roof are LOUD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rfihh4xrjU

I dont think the whole stadium needs one, but theres no reason the south end doesnt have a little something. besides, when its 30+, a 4pm game is a KILLER, esp if you've had a drink. it's really really hard to keep energy up when the sun is just draining literally everything from you.


Agreed %100...southend needs a roof!

and all games should be NIGHT GAMES!....the entire league rolls on night games but us...

[billyfly]

Somebody drive down there and get some new pics pls.

[JDG]

Somebody drive down there and get some new pics pls.


If nobody else has done it I'll make a trip down in the morning.

[rocker]

Slap that roof on there now and be done with it. If you need to expand you just move the roof. Can't be THAT big of a problem/expense.

actually, given that the north stand (just metal) and no real engineering marvel, cost $2million to construct, I would think it'd cost a lost to put a roof up. It'd cost at least that much or more, given that it'd have to be designed carefully with probably just as much metal if not more (since it cannot leak). Then you rip it down -- that costs money.

I think they should put up a roof when they expand the south end. If that's 10 years from now, so be it. It's not a pressing concern at this time in my mind. The south end is loud already and the cost/benefit ratio is just not high enough right now.

[rocker]

Somebody drive down there and get some new pics pls.

yeah, I wanna know if it's green yet

[boban]

Somebody drive down there and get some new pics pls.
Well you're the guy with all these archive pics. I see no one better to take pics and provide a visual update than you.

[Redpunkfiddle]

I know it didn't happen because I have no pics, but it is definitely greening up- moreso on the northend.

It's a beautiful sight

[Super]

actually, given that the north stand (just metal) and no real engineering marvel, cost $2million to construct, I would think it'd cost a lost to put a roof up. It'd cost at least that much or more, given that it'd have to be designed carefully with probably just as much metal if not more (since it cannot leak). Then you rip it down -- that costs money.

I think they should put up a roof when they expand the south end. If that's 10 years from now, so be it. It's not a pressing concern at this time in my mind. The south end is loud already and the cost/benefit ratio is just not high enough right now.

So you think we're loud enough already - and therefore no need to improve? Well, in terms of numbers, we should be at least 5 times louder. But I guess we're "loud enough" already so why push for improvement.

Sorry, I really don't agree with you here. We will NEVER coordinate properly from end to the other in the south end until we get a roof. As a supporter who is actually in the south end (you're not) I would like my efforts to go a little bit further than they are right now.

Considering the fact that the atmosphere is the #1 draw at BMO I think it would be a great investment to slap on a roof on the south end. The fact that they don't prove that the club is not run by football people.

[rocker]

I know it didn't happen because I have no pics, but it is definitely greening up- moreso on the northend.

It's a beautiful sight

how green? give me a sense.. i want to imagine it...

[JDG]

Fresh pictures from this afternoon: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12411907@N00/sets/72157623645919703/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2762/4491370226_f7d94d7d2f_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4490722159_3c4072aa56_b.jpg

[Dirk Diggler]

Oh shiz ... grass and seat pron!

[Red Rat]

I was there this afternoon, I needed to see it with my own eyes. The grass is looking greener and the seats should go in shortly, now add a few more thousand seas in th south end and BMO will be complete

rr

[flatpicker]

^ Holy Crap Red Rat! When you did you suddenly have two words in your name instead of one?

[Red Rat]

^ Holy Crap Red Rat! When you did you suddenly have two words in your name instead of one?

Is been like that for years!!!!
I changed it after the a court ruling against the artist Red Rat so I keep the name and he is forced to change his...

rr

[rocker]

man, this has turned out to be the best weather for that new grass that you could wish for. hopefully those roots are going down!

[KiwiRedsFan]

sorry if this has been answered elsewhere but what happens if it snows unexpectidly in November right before the MLS cup final? Are there procedures in place to stop the grass becoming unplayable?

[Auzzy]

Depends how much snow. If it's just a bit, the under-field heating will help to melt the snow, and it will be like a bit of rain. The surface will definitely not be frozen. If it's lots of snow, they can clear most of it first & also prevent the field from getting too mushy. In that way, snow may even better than heavy, prolonged rain -- despite the underfield drainage and all, lots of rain would eventually make the field very soggy. At least they don't have to worry about the condition of the pitch after the game -- they have until next April to get it back in shape.

Very heavy snowfall during the game has sometimes lead to the postponement of matches in other countries. However, for November in Toronto, I would be more worried about rain, the wind off the lake, and the general comfort of players & supporters. But some good Gore-tex gear, a couple of layers underneath, and alcohol to warm the belly & the nose will take care of us at least!

[mastermixer]

This was at Rio Tinto stadium in Salt Lake last week. It was the US womans team vs Mexico. Imagine this scene at BMO. :canada:

http://www.ussoccer.com/%7E/media/BACA1AC017D9438284AC24B26B91173C.ashx?w=401&h=301

http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Womens-National-Team/2010/03/USA-Defeats-Mexico-in-First-Ever-Snow-Game-For-WNT.aspx

[James17930]

I bet the Mexicans loved that.

[tfc2007]

epic.

[tfc2007]

Depends how much snow. If it's just a bit, the under-field heating will help to melt the snow, and it will be like a bit of rain. The surface will definitely not be frozen. If it's lots of snow, they can clear most of it first & also prevent the field from getting too mushy. In that way, snow may even better than heavy, prolonged rain -- despite the underfield drainage and all, lots of rain would eventually make the field very soggy. At least they don't have to worry about the condition of the pitch after the game -- they have until next April to get it back in shape.

Very heavy snowfall during the game has sometimes lead to the postponement of matches in other countries. However, for November in Toronto, I would be more worried about rain, the wind off the lake, and the general comfort of players & supporters. But some good Gore-tex gear, a couple of layers underneath, and alcohol to warm the belly & the nose will take care of us at least!

alcohol lowers your body temperature, as proven on Myth Busters.

[Auzzy]

^ true, but it's less likely you will notice your frozen bits until later. Plus if you're less inhibited, and you bounce more as a result, then that should generate some heat, no? ;)

[Auzzy]

This was at Rio Tinto stadium in Salt Lake last week. It was the US womans team vs Mexico. Imagine this scene at BMO. :canada:


http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Womens-National-Team/2010/03/USA-Defeats-Mexico-in-First-Ever-Snow-Game-For-WNT.aspx

Anybody know if Rio Tinto Stadium has under-grass heating? I couldn't find any info about it on the stadium website, so I guess not...

[Shakes McQueen]

alcohol lowers your body temperature, as proven on Myth Busters.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it does increase the temperature of your extremities. It reduces your core temperature. So if you're stuck in an industrial freezer, or wandering across Alaska, alcohol is not a good idea. If you're playing a 90 minute football match and trying to keep your extremities warm in a bit of light snow, it may work better. :D

- Scott

[Auzzy]

Actually, I'm pretty sure it does increase the temperature of your extremities. It reduces your core temperature. So if you're stuck in an industrial freezer, or wandering across Alaska, alcohol is not a good idea. If you're playing a 90 minute football match and trying to keep your extremities warm in a bit of light snow, it may work better. :D

- Scott

Are you sure it's such a good idea when you're playing football? That would explain quite a bit on this team actually... Maybe better for watching footy? ;)