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Pachuco
06-17-2008, 10:08 PM
haha, looks like Chicago is really frustrated with Mo.

"[Toronto] always wants more than one player," Klopas said. "That's difficult from our standpoint. We can't be releasing two or three guys to make this happen. It would hurt the team.

Read the whole article here, very interesting!!

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/soccer/fire/cs-080617-brian-mcbride-chicago-fire,1,4361166.story

Roogsy
06-17-2008, 10:11 PM
*sniff*

That's beautiful man.

Give 'em hell Mo!

Roogsy
06-17-2008, 10:13 PM
"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

What? What does Mo care about doing the right thing for Chicago! And what does he owe McBride?

Even moreso now, I hope Mo puts the screws to the Fire and makes them pay through the nose.

twistedchinaman
06-17-2008, 10:13 PM
*sniff*

That's beautiful man.

Give 'em hell Mo!


Yes, so beautiful...*sniff*

MG42
06-17-2008, 10:14 PM
"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

Has Johnston been unreasonable during trade talks?

"I think so," Klopas said.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH TRADER MO STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!

Canary Canuck
06-17-2008, 10:15 PM
"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

The Fire can lick my wang. This isn't charity. It's business and Mo is playing the game they way it's supposed to be played.

andyc
06-17-2008, 10:15 PM
I love it! What the fuck does Shitcago think - Of course we want to make their team weaker...

Pachuco
06-17-2008, 10:16 PM
What? What does Mo care about doing the right thing for Chicago! And what does he owe McBride?

Even moreso now, I hope Mo puts the screws to the Fire and makes them pay through the nose.

HAHA, exactly what I was thinking when I read the article. The bitch sounds like a winer who wants to call his mommy because Mo ain't playing fair.

I just hope the league doesn't intervene and I hope they let Mo continue with his negotiations.

Ossington Mental Youth
06-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Good to see.
STICK IT TO EM MO!!

Roogsy
06-17-2008, 10:17 PM
I love it! What the fuck does Shitcago think - Of course we want to make their team weaker...

Especially since we are looking to stay ahead of them for the Superliga spot. That's money in the bank.

werewolf
06-17-2008, 10:17 PM
oh well maybe we should trade the rights to one of the best American scorers of all-time for a 3rd round draft pick, that would be the right thing to do..... NOT

Roogsy
06-17-2008, 10:18 PM
I just hope the league doesn't intervene and I hope they let Mo continue with his negotiations.

Unfortunately, a very real possibility. MLS has shown to be willing to step in and force teams to do things that don't benefit them.

Ossington Mental Youth
06-17-2008, 10:19 PM
Unfortunately, a very real possibility. MLS has shown to be willing to step in and force teams to do things that don't benefit them.

Yeah, lets hope that Mo doesnt demand too much and its a whole lot of Klopas crying here...

werewolf
06-17-2008, 10:20 PM
is there a deadline of sorts where our rights to him expire? Can we just hold onto the rights until the trade deadline so they don't get to have him for the next two months?

twistedchinaman
06-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Especially since we are looking to stay ahead of them for the Superliga spot. That's money in the bank.

How much does the team get just for getting into the Superliga?

Not to mention at-least-somewhat-mad attention from Mexico -- hopefully.

"GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL de DICHIOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

:D

Ossington Mental Youth
06-17-2008, 10:21 PM
another question would be why does the article say july 15th again???

tfc_4_ever
06-17-2008, 10:23 PM
fuckn have him mo

Pachuco
06-17-2008, 10:24 PM
another question would be why does the article say july 15th again???

Man I'm too confused about that one. The only thing I can think of is there are different dates based on whether the international player is currently signed or not? I don't know, just guessing.

stretchthetruth
06-17-2008, 10:27 PM
haha waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... Mo's a big bad bully... You want the cunt, you pay for him. end of.

ag futbol
06-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Unfortunately, a very real possibility. MLS has shown to be willing to step in and force teams to do things that don't benefit them.
Which is completely rediculous.

The league didn't save the Rapids from giving up their DP slot simply to acquire the "rights" to sign Christian Gomez.

The league should stop playing favorites where they see fit and expect clubs to use the full confines of the rules.

Otherwise, change the rules no a non-insane system where you can actually sign players that are available as opposed to this artifical crap.

Ossington Mental Youth
06-17-2008, 10:30 PM
Which is completely rediculous.

The league didn't save the Rapids from giving up their DP slot simply to acquire the "rights" to sign Christian Gomez.

The league should stop playing favorites where they see fit and expect clubs to use the full confines of the rules.

Otherwise, change the rules no a non-insane system where you can actually sign players that are available as opposed to this artifical crap.

Yep, lets hope a) that its not an issue and b) if it is that these types of points are brought up. Im willing to bet Mo would make it public if that were the case... GO GET EM MO

Dirk Diggler
06-17-2008, 10:38 PM
If he doesn't wanna give Mo more than one player then give us Blanco. No other player on their roster is worth a straight swap for McBride. If he isn't willing to do so, Klopas should drink a tall glass of STFU.

sully
06-17-2008, 10:39 PM
What? What does Mo care about doing the right thing for Chicago! And what does he owe McBride?

Even moreso now, I hope Mo puts the screws to the Fire and makes them pay through the nose.

that's worth quoting again..^^^of course, it's his job afterall...

sully
06-17-2008, 10:41 PM
Unfortunately, a very real possibility. MLS has shown to be willing to step in and force teams to do things that don't benefit them.

Perhaps Chicago is using the media to try to put pressure on MLS to break their own rules... this is a weird league.

DigzTFC!
06-17-2008, 10:45 PM
What a whinny bitch Klopas is....boo fucking hoo. He thought Mo would trade McBride to a conference rival with one point difference in the standings for nothing?

But we don't want to weaken the team....FUCK YOU. If McBride retires thats better for us. This isn't a soup kitchen you pansy, this is professional sports. Just because things don't go your way doesn't mean you cry to the press for the sympathy vote. We worked damn hard to be in last place last year and now we're reaping the rewards.

Take what you can, give nothing back

sully
06-17-2008, 10:50 PM
..just a thought...but if MLS screws us (and their own rules) on this McBride thing..the so called "All-Star game" would be an opportunity for us to let them know what we think of them in some way...of course only if the unthinkable happens

S_D
06-17-2008, 10:53 PM
is there a deadline of sorts where our rights to him expire? Can we just hold onto the rights until the trade deadline so they don't get to have him for the next two months?

We hold the top allocation until the end of the season. The top allocation then goes to the last place team. (or maybe seattle since they are new?)



"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."


waaa waaa. Get stuffed.

That's rich coming from a team that won't let Conde go to the Red Bulls to play for the coach that signed him. They would rather force him to sit on the bench and pay his salary than let him play elsewhere out of spite.

I can't see the MLS being able to step in and force a settlement. It was easier when there were only a few owners but now with so many owners, nobody is going to want to solidify a team's chances for the cup etc. without giving up something of value.

I have a feeling that the reason why Mo is changing demands for players is because other teams want what Chicago has and Mo has a few 3 way trades up his sleeve.

DigzTFC!
06-17-2008, 10:53 PM
The league will push this through only if it comes to an impass. The reason Mo has to change the deal so often is the amount of senior positions being used and international spots. We have to make more moves than just McBride and I don't think the Fire quite grasp that like Klopas doesn't understand how to be a fucking man.

Roogsy
06-17-2008, 10:53 PM
The MLS will have to take care not to step in carelessly and upset the supporters. We have real, diehard fans in Toronto, not soccer moms like in Dallas. Armtwist Mo into a bad deal, and all supporters groups will make sure the MLS hears from Toronto fans.

DigzTFC!
06-17-2008, 11:08 PM
MLS would not live it down and hopefully this can lead the way for them to stop fucking with other teams. Its not fair to anyone to change the rules.

TFC07
06-17-2008, 11:14 PM
You gotta love Mo!

Northern Soul
06-17-2008, 11:16 PM
What? What does Mo care about doing the right thing for Chicago! And what does he owe McBride?

Even moreso now, I hope Mo puts the screws to the Fire and makes them pay through the nose.

QFT. Unbelievable how Klopas thinks Mo should do the right thing for Chicago because it's a feel-good story. Piss right off! Mo is doing right by his own team. Assholes!

TFCREDNWHITE
06-17-2008, 11:27 PM
June 15th relates to the MLS window, any player that is "free" and "completely unattached" from another team can be picked up.

July 15th relates to the European Window, so since Mcbride was Attached to Fulham he has to abide by the European window.

Thats pretty much how i see it, am i wrong??

Also Chicago can go suck a big fat one! they want what we have, so they better PAY UP!! we aren't gonna give Mcbride a handjob and pack his bags for him!

Let georgie bush invade us to make us give Mcbride to Chicago for free! LOL

UltraSuperMegaMo
06-17-2008, 11:33 PM
June 15th relates to the MLS window, any player that is "free" and "completely unattached" from another team can be picked up.

July 15th relates to the European Window, so since Mcbride was Attached to Fulham he has to abide by the European window.

Thats pretty much how i see it, am i wrong??

Also Chicago can go suck a big fat one! they want what we have, so they better PAY UP!! we aren't gonna give Mcbride a handjob and pack his bags for him!

Let georgie bush invade us to make us give Mcbride to Chicago for free! LOL

I think you are wrong. There’s not two separate windows. There’s two separate date floating around and it’s unclear which is correct. Journalists, League officials, coaches, and the official league website seem to be split between the two dates.

Ives says it’s July 15th, he tends to be the best source in the league:

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/06/red-bulls-close.html



If Rojas does reach a deal with the Red Bulls, he would not be able to join the team until July 15, when the MLS transfer window opened. MLS Communications confirmed on Monday that the MLS transfer window does not open until July 15.

egoodwin
06-17-2008, 11:38 PM
the right thing for Mo is improving TFC while screwing the Fire

if Chicago were in the West it might be a different story

Lucky Strike
06-17-2008, 11:51 PM
Like it's been mentioned, I worry that this Klopas guy is making the story public to try and get MLS to break its own rules. However, we all know we wouldn't let this pass because we're passionate fans (cue the Dichio comment about having real fans instead of filling our stadium with family-day out people) so I think we're covered that way.

Aside from that, what do you expect Chicago? We're in this to win and Mo is right not to do them any favours.

UltraSuperMegaMo
06-17-2008, 11:55 PM
Chivas didn’t job us for Amado, maybe Mo should try to be a little league minded on this one. Conde + draft picks or cash seems fair to me.

werewolf
06-17-2008, 11:56 PM
Chivas didnít job us for Amado, maybe Mo should try to be a little league minded on this one. Conde + draft picks or cash seems fair to me.

I would agree with this normally, but not if the other GM is going to have a hissy-fit expecting us to do him a favour, its not often a team has such a prized commodity to trade.

Flipityflu
06-18-2008, 12:08 AM
thats just funny. i wonder if some people realise this is a pro sports league and not a socialist state they are in.

and i do think the league will step in if a deal can't be made.

UltraSuperMegaMo
06-18-2008, 12:20 AM
In the early day of its existence the MLS was run more like a socialist collective than a pro sport league - it’s current single entity structure being a hold over from that time. I think Mo’s smart enough to know this deal has to be done. He might draw it out a little, but there’s no way McBride doesn’t end up with Chicago.

onemanbarmyarmy
06-18-2008, 05:57 AM
I don't mind if the league steps in as long as they give us a 2nd DP spot or first allocation + money along with whatever shit deal they force us to make. Remember McFuck was the one that wanted DP money from any other team but Shit-Cago. Is that the right thing to do Brian.

Fort York Redcoat
06-18-2008, 06:50 AM
So this sounds like McBride won't even be the DP since Blanco is there. Klopos is trying to keep his team from turning into LA 2.0 and stalling the deal using the media as leverage. Will MLS see this as the most important deal of the year since this Ronaldhimno deal is crapping out and step in "for the interest of the league"?

We're behind ya Mo

Mighty Mo...

Nerepis
06-18-2008, 06:53 AM
I think you are wrong. Thereís not two separate windows. Thereís two separate date floating around and itís unclear which is correct. Journalists, League officials, coaches, and the official league website seem to be split between the two dates.

I don't know if this helps but this is from the MLS Website:

(B) TRANSFERS AND LOANS
An MLS player may be transferred or loaned at any time to a team outside the League. The registration windows - the dates between which MLS may request the transfer certificate of an international player are as follows:
January 15 - April 15 (Primary Window)
June 15 - August 15 (Secondary Window)



http://web.mlsnet.com/about/league.jsp?section=regulations&content=overview



And this is from FIFA (FA):



2. The Association which a player is leaving will issue the International Transfer Certificate to the National Association to which the player is moving. This is now only allowed within 2 transfer windows in a year. From the end of a League's season up to the 31st August and for the month of January.


http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/Additional/Postings/2003/11/InternationalTransfers.htm


Not sure if this clears things up.

Wagner
06-18-2008, 06:59 AM
Apparently MoJo wants a draft pick, a couple of useful players we can use right away, and serviced by 3 of the front office wives.

bdrs
06-18-2008, 07:06 AM
WTF? Klopas should take a long walk. This is a competitive sports league not a retirement home for players where they can pick and choose where the get to go out to pasture...
Mo doesn't need to understand sweet screw about what McBride wants, he is worrying about what TFC needs which is what he is paid to do. Give em what he wants or McBride can retire in Chicago as a fan in the stands! GO REDS!!!

Steve
06-18-2008, 07:22 AM
In the early day of its existence the MLS was run more like a socialist collective than a pro sport league - itís current single entity structure being a hold over from that time. I think Moís smart enough to know this deal has to be done. He might draw it out a little, but thereís no way McBride doesnít end up with Chicago.

The "Single entity" structure is really in name only. MLS is like a company with 12 major shareholders. When the company wants to do something major (or break its own rules of operation) they will need to go back to the shareholders. Even 3 years ago this was easy ("Hey, AEG, can we do this?") but now, with 12 distinct groups, it becomes much more political. I'm not saying the league (and its ownership groups) won't force this to happen, it is just a lot harder to do now. MLSE is also not a minnow to be cowed, it will stand up for its rights, and I'm sure it will be able to garner some support from the other league owners.

BeachRed
06-18-2008, 07:27 AM
Chivas didnít job us for Amado, maybe Mo should try to be a little league minded on this one. Conde + draft picks or cash seems fair to me.

But Amado didn't want to play for Chivas. They can't use both arguments, the player want to play in his home town and it's good for the league.

With mls talking about $40 million expansion fees they have to start acting like pros.

arsenal
06-18-2008, 07:31 AM
But Amado didn't want to play for Chivas. They can't use both arguments, the player want to play in his home town and it's good for the league.

With mls talking about $40 million expansion fees they have to start acting like pros.

Well McBride doesn't want to play in Toronto so I don't see how it is different from that perspective. While MLS has generally operated in a way to benefit the league as a whole in the past (don't forget MLS is not too far removed from multiple teams have common ownership), I like the point made that Chicago is getting a little karma in return here with the way they have handled Marmol & Conde.

Razor
06-18-2008, 07:32 AM
Fuck Shitcago, I hope Mo takes them to the cleaners.

I could give a rat's ass if BMB retires.

arsenal
06-18-2008, 07:39 AM
FYI ... looks like McBride doesn't want DP $ so that is not a sticking point.
"Klopas says he doesn't think the Fire will need a designated player spot to acquire McBride: "Not that I know of," Klopas said. "I don't think he's asking for D.P. money.""

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/soccer_redcard/

Dave67
06-18-2008, 07:41 AM
Gee so Mo is not willing to bend over and take it up the A$$ to help Chicago improve. Remind me again, who does Mo work for?

Mo & Carver - 2 guys who were not born yesterday - gotta love em!

DigzTFC!
06-18-2008, 07:42 AM
I'm floored that Klopas would say this really. I think it shows you just how far MLS has to go in terms of professionalism. Do the right thing.....what a knob. Could you imagine someone saying this in any other sport without getting lambasted on every sports talk show. This is PTI worthy if they gave a rats ass about soccer.

olegunnar
06-18-2008, 07:46 AM
FYI ... looks like McBride doesn't want DP $ so that is not a sticking point.
"Klopas says he doesn't think the Fire will need a designated player spot to acquire McBride: "Not that I know of," Klopas said. "I don't think he's asking for D.P. money.""

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/soccer_redcard/

That's the thing that gets me. They're already getting a DP at a discount salary...now they also want that DP at a discounted trade value. Does this Klopas tool have no shame?

I'm sure Mo would like to trade Cunny for Beckham, or Lombardo for DeRo...but I don't see him whining to the press that he can't get his way.

Roogsy
06-18-2008, 07:49 AM
I am not really buying the Chivas argument. Their side fell through originally when Amado refused to come here so Chivas still needed to save face. And they didn't have the room to sign him.

Here it's difference. We CAN sign him if we want to. We have the DP slot, the International slot and the cap room, especially if we waive Cunny. We are holding the cards, Chicago needs to deal. Chivas wasn't holding us over a barrel like we have Chicago.

Shaughno
06-18-2008, 07:52 AM
^^ Exactly, you can not compare the two situations. Amado was not going to Chivas since he and Preki didn't get along, so they had to get rid of him. This is a situation where we could say, "Fuck you, we're keeping him" and Shitcago would have no choice in the matter. We have them by the scruff of the neck, not the other way around.

DigzTFC!
06-18-2008, 07:54 AM
McBride won't play for us and I really don't want they guy. He wants to play in the Olympics and is coming back for a last victory lap. I want a DP striker that people in Canada will recognize to build the TFC brand so when I turn on TSN, The Score, CBC, Sportsnet and other sports channels they show the highlights of every god damn game TFC plays, not just when Ricketts of Guevara make outstanding goals (TSN).

This Klopas is a fucking idiot and from reading big soccer posts, it seems most other supporters understand our position and laugh the Fire's front office response. On top of the shit they pulled with Conde and Marmol, these guys are bush league. When Blanco leaves that team will be absolute shit.

thrillgill
06-18-2008, 07:55 AM
KlopASS sounds like a real dickhole. Mo should tell him to eat shit until he gets a deal that works for us.

S_D
06-18-2008, 07:57 AM
I'm floored that Klopas would say this really. I think it shows you just how far MLS has to go in terms of professionalism. Do the right thing.....what a knob. Could you imagine someone saying this in any other sport without getting lambasted on every sports talk show. This is PTI worthy if they gave a rats ass about soccer.

When Osario Left and Conde voiced his opinion, Chicago did the same thing through the media. A lot of whining and sounding like hardassess at the same time. In the end they lost Osario and Conde sat on the bench. not what I would consider successful conclusions.

pat416
06-18-2008, 08:39 AM
Good Job Mo Were Behind you 100%!! Hahaahha i cant beleive Klopas said that, what was he thinking?

He wasn't!

ensco
06-18-2008, 08:50 AM
Interesting game of chicken.

There's more to this than the article says. Mo can just pass on McBride and keep the allocation, as there are almost certainly other valuable players still to come this year.

The key question - is/are the player(s) Mo/Carver have said TFC will acquire, already on our designated player list?

If not, we need that allocation. Mo may be looking at a 3-way deal with RSL, who have the next allocation after us. (That's what I inferred from the "Mo keeps making things complicated" line, anyway.) By acquiring RSL's allocation slot, Mo keeps his place in the allocation line by using our allocation for McBride and then trading McBride, but we'd get less from Chicago - Chicago would have to send something to both us and RSL. In this scenario, RSL would get more than we would.

Pachuco
06-18-2008, 08:56 AM
Interesting game of chicken.

There's more to this than the article says. Mo can just pass on McBride and keep the allocation, as there are almost certainly other valuable players still to come this year.

The key question - is/are the player(s) Mo/Carver have said TFC will acquire, already on our designated player list?

If not, we need that allocation. Mo may be looking at a 3-way deal with RSL, who have the next allocation after us. (That's what I inferred from the "Mo keeps making things complicated" line, anyway.) By acquiring RSL's allocation slot, Mo keeps his place in the allocation line by using our allocation for McBride and then trading McBride, but we'd get less from Chicago - Chicago would have to send something to both us and RSL. In this scenario, RSL would get more than we would.

I follow you, just another scenario to speculate and contemplent, love it!

Damien
06-18-2008, 08:59 AM
Barrett + 1st round pick = McBride

Then they only loose 1 player and they can shut their fuckin pie holes.

brad
06-18-2008, 09:02 AM
I want a DP striker that people in Canada will recognize to build the TFC brand so when I turn on TSN, The Score, CBC, Sportsnet and other sports channels they show the highlights of every god damn game TFC plays, not just when Ricketts of Guevara make outstanding goals (TSN). .

I think you're dreaming if you really think this is the sort of DP we'll get. There are only a handful of players in the world that fit the bill, and none of them are coming here. That would take a player like Cristiano Ronaldo or Ronaldinho to get that level of exposure, and that's not happening.

Laurent Robert is about as recognizable as it comes for ex-European players at a profile we would likely land, and he didn't exactly propel us into the media spotlight.

DigzTFC!
06-18-2008, 09:10 AM
I'm not dreaming at all. I don't think it will take the best players in the world for sports channels to become interested in Canada. The momentum is already there. I think you underestimate the soccer intelligence and appetite in this country. Lots of my friends watch soccer but not MLS or Canadian Soccer. Ronaldo and Ronaldinho aren't necessary to achieve what I stated.

Steve
06-18-2008, 09:18 AM
Interesting game of chicken.

There's more to this than the article says. Mo can just pass on McBride and keep the allocation, as there are almost certainly other valuable players still to come this year.

The key question - is/are the player(s) Mo/Carver have said TFC will acquire, already on our designated player list?

If not, we need that allocation. Mo may be looking at a 3-way deal with RSL, who have the next allocation after us. (That's what I inferred from the "Mo keeps making things complicated" line, anyway.) By acquiring RSL's allocation slot, Mo keeps his place in the allocation line by using our allocation for McBride and then trading McBride, but we'd get less from Chicago - Chicago would have to send something to both us and RSL. In this scenario, RSL would get more than we would.

Well, to be honest, I don't see us needing the allocation this year. The allocation is most useful when dealing with returning USMNT players (who we don't want/they don't want to play here). Other than that, it deals with the situation where more than one team files papers on a player at the same time. Of course, this can be circumvented by using a discovery signing (and I think we still have a few left). Essentially, I don't the need for us to keep top allocation, considering how few pieces we have left to add to our team this year.

DigzTFC!
06-18-2008, 09:27 AM
Well, to be honest, I don't see us needing the allocation this year. The allocation is most useful when dealing with returning USMNT players (who we don't want/they don't want to play here). Other than that, it deals with the situation where more than one team files papers on a player at the same time. Of course, this can be circumvented by using a discovery signing (and I think we still have a few left). Essentially, I don't the need for us to keep top allocation, considering how few pieces we have left to add to our team this year.

Agreed. The problem with trading with the Fire is that they won't give up anything we want, like Mapp or Rolfe. Conde doesn't want to play here, and NYRB has nothing we want. There are very few players in the league that are worth while that teams will part with. Will more allocation and a draft pick be enough...McBride might not get the return we want for the improvement Chicago will see.

bangersandmash
06-18-2008, 09:43 AM
I know this is a weird POV, but a strong Fire (aside from the fact we still have to play them) can actually help Toronto. Thanks to the MLS's weird playoff seeding, the more eastern teams beating up on the west, the better our playoff chances. I'd be happy to see McBride go to the fire for a 1st round draft pick + a little cash. (not a lot of cash, just enough to buy Eto'o, hehehe)

Fort York Redcoat
06-18-2008, 09:51 AM
I like this aspect of Mo hogging the #1 Alocation with the obvious challenge of returning Americans that we up here don't care for. I think we're a couple years and a grass pitch away from being sure that Canadians abroad will retire here but hopefully that will be an advantage in the long term. I for one will give our DP some time regardless if I've heard of him and look for quality over shirt sales.

Ossington Mental Youth
06-18-2008, 09:56 AM
Agreed. The problem with trading with the Fire is that they won't give up anything we want, like Mapp or Rolfe. Conde doesn't want to play here, and NYRB has nothing we want. There are very few players in the league that are worth while that teams will part with. Will more allocation and a draft pick be enough...McBride might not get the return we want for the improvement Chicago will see.

NY does have money from Altidore, we do want money

mighty_torontofc_2008
06-18-2008, 09:57 AM
Chicago fire...wussies...its deal or no deal...if they figure mcbride is not worth the price, try another club. way to go MO...Monty hall would be proud!!!

BeachRed
06-18-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm pretty sure when Mo took over an expansion team - and not even in the US - he got offered a lot of shitty deals, or was ignored completely by agents and GMs. He complained about being required to have a certain amount of Canadians and a few other things, but mostly he just went about building the team.

So now, yeah, they have to deal with him and he's going to be a hardass and do the best for his team. Good.

Velvet Elvis
06-18-2008, 11:03 AM
McBride's wiki site was updated ... shows he's on Chicago for 2008. Was this an official wiki update? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_mcbride

Technorgasm
06-18-2008, 11:07 AM
The Fire can lick my wang. This isn't charity. It's business and Mo is playing the game they way it's supposed to be played.

""Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

Understand what? that The FIRE are a bunch of Wanking, crying Chav-parkies?

Take em for all they've got. or better yet, let another team get the rights to him, that will REALLY stick a wrench in their works.

lets face it, if MO had his way McBride would go to a WESTERN team. Blanco has proven a lot to handle on his own. . . and TFC dont need the Fire to have any more. . . umm. . . "FIREpower" so to sepak.

WALK ON!

Daveisonfire
06-18-2008, 11:09 AM
Fuck you Chicago

Pachuco
06-18-2008, 11:15 AM
Fuck you Chicago

When I opened this thread, I had a very good idea that this article would get people going :)

Love it, fuck ShitCA-CAGO

Cambridge_Red
06-18-2008, 11:16 AM
Why would we want to help Chicago this isn't a charity... Mo is only doing what any manager would do, get the best result for his club. This is a no brainer, I wonder what he's asking for..

yellowfellow
06-18-2008, 11:20 AM
Mr. Klopas' email address: fKlopas@chicago-fire.com

Banner at the next Chicago game: "Klopas is a whiner!"

James17930
06-18-2008, 11:47 AM
Fuck you Klopas.

Atta boy Mo.

ilikemusic
06-18-2008, 11:59 AM
I would rather Mo just dug his heels in and ended up fucking Chicago, McBride, and even ourselves.

The problem is, this mickey mouse league will find a way to get McBride to Shitcago whether we get a fair deal or not.

Technorgasm
06-18-2008, 12:10 PM
hold out, and send him to a WESTERN team.

WALK ON

J .
06-18-2008, 12:11 PM
Another reason to hate Chicago. Whiny supporters and whiny management.

Boo fucking hoo.

Flashman
06-18-2008, 12:24 PM
Runaway McBride on radar (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-18-fire-bits-chicagojun18,0,6495103.story)


But Toronto FC's asking price too high


FIRE BITS By Luis Arroyave June 18, 2008

When Brian McBride (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/brian-mcbride-PESPT004771.topic) announced he was leaving England's Fulham to return to the United States, many assumed the Arlington Heights native already had a deal worked out with Major League Soccer that would allow him to play for his hometown Fire.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-18-fire-bits-chicagojun18,0,6450340.story

Oldtimer
06-18-2008, 12:25 PM
One possible deal:

Solid player to T.O.
Conde from Chicago to TFC to NY for even more allocation $$$$.
Allocation $$$ used to sign striker from England.
All looks good.

Velvet Elvis
06-18-2008, 12:30 PM
hold out, and send him to a WESTERN team.

WALK ON

:lol: Seconded !!!

Marco2K
06-18-2008, 12:31 PM
One possible deal:

Solid player to T.O.
Conde from Chicago to TFC to NY for even more allocation $$$$.
Allocation $$$ used to sign striker from England.
All looks good.
Striker from ENGLAND???


Are you fuckin kidding me.


ANYONE EXCEPT A PLAYER FOR ENGLAND.

SORRY

Broadview
06-18-2008, 12:39 PM
More speculation:

http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=738752

Oldtimer
06-18-2008, 12:41 PM
Striker from ENGLAND???


Are you fuckin kidding me.


ANYONE EXCEPT A PLAYER FOR ENGLAND.

SORRY

Scotland, then. :D

Pachuco
06-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Striker from ENGLAND???


Are you fuckin kidding me.


ANYONE EXCEPT A PLAYER FOR ENGLAND.

SORRY

Yeah because those players we got from England, Dichio, Robert and Ricketts have done a real shitty job on this team, and so therefore, we should go to Fiji for our star center forward.

WHO THE F*CK CARES WHERE WE GET THE PLAYER FROM??? stop your whining and realize that wherever he comes from, Mo will get the right player.

Cambridge_Red
06-18-2008, 01:02 PM
Striker from ENGLAND???


Are you fuckin kidding me.


ANYONE EXCEPT A PLAYER FOR ENGLAND.

SORRY

You're gonna say Welsh, then I'm gonna say Dichio, Ricketts, Robinson, Robert(Ex Newcastle carver link)...
We've shopped there because this is where are management has had experience in the past. IMO it hasn't hurt us. Anywhere we can get a good striker from I will be happy, be it England or wherever.

TFC-Tyler
06-18-2008, 01:19 PM
"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

After reading that, fuck the Chicago Fire. Yeah, lets not try and get the best deal for our team, we need to do the right thing for Chicago.

ExiledRed
06-18-2008, 01:34 PM
^^ He thinks TFC stands for Total Fucking Charity.

ensco
06-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Well, to be honest, I don't see us needing the allocation this year. The allocation is most useful when dealing with returning USMNT players (who we don't want/they don't want to play here). Other than that, it deals with the situation where more than one team files papers on a player at the same time. Of course, this can be circumvented by using a discovery signing (and I think we still have a few left). Essentially, I don't the need for us to keep top allocation, considering how few pieces we have left to add to our team this year.

Not just USMNT players. SJ used the first allocation earlier this year on Peguero, a Haitian. That was a serious mistake by them. Peguero only lasted a couple of games before going down for the year.

SilverSamurai
06-18-2008, 03:16 PM
Not just USMNT players. SJ used the first allocation earlier this year on Peguero, a Haitian. That was a serious mistake by them. Peguero only lasted a couple of games before going down for the year.

Didn't Will Johnson play for Chicago?
I wouldn't mind seeing him on TFC, especially after the U-23 tourney, but I think it's safe to say he'll be in Europe for a good while longer.

Flashman
06-18-2008, 04:09 PM
June 18, 2008

No deal for McBride yet


So where is Brian McBride?
No, he can't play in Major League Soccer until July 15th anyway, but why hasn't a deal for his move to MLS, an presumably the Chicago Fire, not happened yet? The deal has stalled as negotiations between the Fire and Toronto FC, current holders of the allocation spot needed to sign McBride have hit a wall.

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/06/no-deal-for-mcb.html

ag futbol
06-18-2008, 05:24 PM
Well, let's be honest, we all know these rules are completely unfair and stupid. Under the current system it's more likely a star player will be forced out of MLS as opposed to come back to the league (because the price to keep players in the league is inflated as you have to compensate the other team). MLS clearly didn't think these rules through before they made them...

However ... considering that the rules are what they are, it's up to individual teams to consider how they want to apply them. It's a competitive business, there are no handouts.

Lucky Strike
06-18-2008, 07:54 PM
If Mapp won't do because he plays the wing, I'd like to see Bakary Soumare. He plays mostly in defence for Chicago but is also a midfielder.

Oblio2
06-18-2008, 08:06 PM
"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

Has Johnston been unreasonable during trade talks?

"I think so," Klopas said.


HA HA HA...Fuck off with this Bullshit Klopas.
Fuck him Mo, Fuck him real good!!!!

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
06-18-2008, 09:41 PM
Johnston....just reported on FSC...that the reports that he wants 2-3 players for mcbride..are bullshite!....he says he dosent want to disrupt his squad...all he wants from the fire is ONE PLAYER!


HANG TOUGh MO! :)

Damien
06-18-2008, 09:42 PM
Johnston....just reported on FSC...that the reports that he wants 2-3 players for mcbride..are bullshite!....he says he dosent want to disrupt his squad...all he wants from the fire is ONE PLAYER!


HANG TOUGh MO! :)

Yep i caught that too, posted in the other forum :)

Cheers!

Roogsy
06-18-2008, 09:43 PM
Johnston....just reported on FSC...that the reports that he wants 2-3 players for mcbride..are bullshite!....he says he dosent want to disrupt his squad...all he wants from the fire is ONE PLAYER!


HANG TOUGh MO! :)

You mean Extra Time on GolTV, not Fox.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
06-18-2008, 09:44 PM
You mean Extra Time on GolTV, not Fox.


yes....they just played the interview on fox thats all! :)

cuecas_red
06-18-2008, 09:44 PM
You mean Extra Time on GolTV, not Fox. not on Fox Soccer Report on the FSC

Sab0tage
06-18-2008, 09:48 PM
"Mo needs to understand it's about doing the right thing," Klopas said. "Someone who has had a great career wants to finish in his hometown. He has to understand that."

Has Johnston been unreasonable during trade talks?

"I think so," Klopas said.


HA HA HA...Fuck off with this Bullshit Klopas.
Fuck him Mo, Fuck him real good!!!! Lol what a freaking idiot.

sweetlemon69
06-19-2008, 01:45 PM
Hhrrmm??

-------------------------------

I`m confused!

I`ve just picked up a paper and read that our former striker Brian McBride will be signing for Toronto FC!

But, that will not be his true destination as he`ll then be sold on immediately to Chicago Fire!

Apparently, it`s something to do with MLS rules!

Can anyone enlighten me what those rules are because it seems a bit strange to me?


http://www.fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=113036

TFC-Tyler
06-19-2008, 01:48 PM
Every second thread on this board tells the story, try looking around.

Basically, Toronto has first allocation rights to sign him, he doesnt want to play here and we dont intend to sign him, so we're trading (not selling) him to Chicago.

sweetlemon69
06-19-2008, 01:56 PM
This article mentions him signing, taking 1 of the 3 options (signing McBride and then trading him, trading his rights without signing him, or passing all together and keeping our #1 spot). All the articles I've seen on the forum talk about Mo looking to trade his rights. Unless I've missed something... I know he's mentioned he wants to play for his home town club, but what if we do get him to agree to a 1 year or something?