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Oblio2
03-23-2010, 11:23 AM
Just tweeted from Molinaro
12:20 pm
JohnMolinaro (http://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro)

Gerba update: He's still under contract, but Preki says he's "not in our plans" and Toronto FC is trying to move him.

James17930
03-23-2010, 11:25 AM
wonder who might want him (or where he would agree to go).

Redpunkfiddle
03-23-2010, 11:28 AM
And how many people will it take to move him?

Bah dum buhm!

Mark in Ottawa
03-23-2010, 11:30 AM
wonder who might want him (or where he would agree to go).
Or how long it will take before be "evolves" and becomes a goal scoring machine ala some other departed TFC strikers.

Cashcleaner
03-23-2010, 11:33 AM
So unless I'm mistaken, our roster now consists of three balls; a goal net; a bag of grass seed; and Ted, BMO Field's late-night security guard.

drewski
03-23-2010, 11:33 AM
not really new.

given everything that has been said, we knew he wasn't in TFC's plans, so trying to move him is only logical

reggie
03-23-2010, 11:35 AM
im really looking forward to next season...

trane
03-23-2010, 11:35 AM
So unless I'm mistaken, our roster now consists of three balls; a goal net; a bag of grass seed; and Ted, BMO Field's late-night security guard.

You forgot the pylon [aka Garcia].

scots17
03-23-2010, 11:35 AM
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- Chivas USA fell 3-1 against the Houston Dynamo on Saturday night at Harder Stadium in Santa Barbara, Calif. in the last exhibition game before Friday's Home Opener against the Colorado Rapids at The Home Depot Center. Dominic Oduro, Brad Davis, and Adrian Serioux scored in the second half to give Houston Dynamo the victory over the Red-and-White before 1,657 fans that attended the 2nd Annual Spring Classic at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

GabrielHurl
03-23-2010, 11:36 AM
http://www.aikenco.ie/INSURANCE/upload/Image/building&tower-crane-s.jpg

drewski
03-23-2010, 11:36 AM
So unless I'm mistaken, our roster now consists of three balls; a goal net; a bag of grass seed; and Ted, BMO Field's late-night security guard.


don't forget our back 4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P1100714.jpg

Nuvinho
03-23-2010, 11:38 AM
can we merge the other thread as well "Gerba sent home".

reggie
03-23-2010, 11:38 AM
lol...we cant fit them under the cap..

Whoop
03-23-2010, 11:39 AM
http://www.aikenco.ie/INSURANCE/upload/Image/building&tower-crane-s.jpg

Damn Gabe you beat me to it. LOL

Cashcleaner
03-23-2010, 11:39 AM
don't forget our back 4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P1100714.jpg

Drewski wins. :D

trane
03-23-2010, 11:39 AM
don't forget our back 4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/mike24k/bmo_field/P1100714.jpg

Well at least this four can hold their shape consistently.

MG42
03-23-2010, 11:40 AM
he'll end up with the Impact somehow and destroy us in the NCC

tfcleeds
03-23-2010, 11:40 AM
That's OK...it's not like we didn't have a plethora of striking options already :rolleyes:

Boondaddy
03-23-2010, 11:41 AM
well, they're gonna have to put a creative package together for another team to even consider this move.

How this plays out will be very interesting.....let's see what Mo can get done. His job is at stake....

olegunnar
03-23-2010, 11:41 AM
So unless I'm mistaken, our roster now consists of three balls; a goal net; a bag of grass seed; and Ted, BMO Field's late-night security guard.

and 10 3rd round draft picks

mastermixer
03-23-2010, 11:42 AM
^ my thoughts exactly. Work your magic trader mo.

trane
03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
he'll end up with the Impact somehow and destroy us in the NCC

That is my bet. That is the natural place for him.

Whoop
03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
Question is what will TFC get in return?

More help for our back line?

http://fawny.org/blog/images/FourOrangePylons.jpg

Some balls?

http://www.artik.com/Images/Sports_Uniform/Soccer/ball%20bags/bag4.jpg

Or another striker?

ABj6x_Aa1Ek

Nuvinho
03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
I wonder how the players feel not having a full squad.....I know DeRo and JDG showed some displeasure during some of those TFC TV interviews.

AL-MO
03-23-2010, 11:46 AM
Question is what will TFC get in return?

More help for our back line?

http://fawny.org/blog/images/FourOrangePylons.jpg



Some caution tape to hold the defenders are together?! :lol:

AL-MO
03-23-2010, 11:46 AM
Maybe Mo can pick up a couple players from my Friday night league on his way to Columbus for the game....

trane
03-23-2010, 11:47 AM
Question is what will TFC get in return?

More help for our back line?

http://fawny.org/blog/images/FourOrangePylons.jpg




Well that pole would be an upgrade on Garcia, at least it has strengh and height, and the pace would be about the same.

Striker would have to get around it, it would be more of obstacle then GArcia.

Nuvinho
03-23-2010, 11:47 AM
CBC's John Molinaro's story on Gerba:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/03/23/sp-toronto-fc-gerba.html

drewski
03-23-2010, 11:52 AM
Question is what will TFC get in return?

Or another striker?

ABj6x_Aa1Ek


or

FscxwrxA54U

CretanBull
03-23-2010, 11:58 AM
and 10 3rd round draft picks

Fingers crossed, but if we pay half of Gerba's salary, I think we might just be looking at our 11th 3rd round pick :drum:

TFC Via Buffalo
03-23-2010, 12:04 PM
lol...we cant fit them under the cap..

We can't fit Gerba into a jersey either.

mmmikey
03-23-2010, 12:16 PM
According to KJ, he is making significantly more than his advertised 170k salary. I'm seeing another Robbo like trade where we still pay alot of his salary and get very little cap space in return..

canadian_bhoy
03-23-2010, 12:20 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/08/11/uribe2_wideweb__470x298,0.jpg

Mango Kid
03-23-2010, 12:25 PM
Gerba to be moved, whale tarps consider strike.

UltraSuperMegaMo
03-23-2010, 12:26 PM
San Jose had has rights to begin with, maybe they'll want him back?

Menelaos
03-23-2010, 12:27 PM
I know this much, I'll be wearing my jersey in case any of us get the call....
Oh you think its a joke? In another week or so we'll only have Frei left.

Yohan
03-23-2010, 12:35 PM
San Jose had has rights to begin with, maybe they'll want him back?
not at bloated salary.

Gerba might do well with their new guy Eduardo plus Ryan Johnson...

olegunnar
03-23-2010, 12:40 PM
According to KJ, he is making significantly more than his advertised 170k salary. I'm seeing another Robbo like trade where we still pay alot of his salary and get very little cap space in return..

Not to beat a dead horse, and no offense to the guy that did the salary cap/allocation projections for 2010 on the main board....but it's rarely the case in a salary cap environment that a player has his full contract worth divided into equal annual salaries.

For example a player could sign a 3 year $900K deal...and make $250, $250 then $400 over the three years...especially if in year one and two there wasn't enough cap room to pay 400. Sometimes too it seems Mo signs players...then tries to figure out how to make them fit in future years (usually ahving to cut/ or trade players to make room)

If the 170 was a full year salary I wouldn't be surprised if he was on a 2 year $400K deal...$170 in 2009 and $230 in 2010.

jimmyjazz
03-23-2010, 12:41 PM
San Jose had has rights to begin with, maybe they'll want him back?

With TFC's massive showcase of Gerba by sending him home from Charleston, we are not getting anything for him (even if there was a slim chance of getting something in return before that - it evapourated then). Way to go MO!

Jim

stugautz
03-23-2010, 12:49 PM
With TFC's massive showcase of Gerba by sending him home from Charleston, we are not getting anything for him (even if there was a slim chance of getting something in return before that - it evapourated then). Way to go MO!

Jim

I don't think Mo ever gave up anything to sign Gerba...except MLSE money.

johnmolinaro
03-23-2010, 12:53 PM
Full story is now up, with quotes from Preki:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/03/23/sp-toronto-fc-gerba.html

John
http://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro

Parkdale
03-23-2010, 12:56 PM
he'll end up with the Impact somehow and destroy us in the NCC

damnit. we all KNOW THAT, but had agreed not to say it.

Nuvinho
03-23-2010, 12:58 PM
KristianJack (http://twitter.com/KristianJack)

So Preki confirms Gerba's "not in their plans" yet he has an untradeable contract and isn't budging on getting only a % of his money.....

Nuvinho
03-23-2010, 12:58 PM
^ How to solve that? Make him run laps for the entire practice, during the game, make him run around the stadium. He'll take a % of that after a few days of doing that.

brad
03-23-2010, 01:00 PM
Gerba is going to end up being our own Winston Bogarde.

Parkdale
03-23-2010, 01:00 PM
and Ted, BMO Field's late-night security guard.

pffft. Ted.

I can sneak past Ted like Henry and Messi with a 2-on-1 breakaway against Garcia.

nascarguy
03-23-2010, 01:02 PM
this is bull shit... mo is full of shit

rocker
03-23-2010, 01:03 PM
Gerba's 170K is probably some prorated amount for the number of games when he joined the team last year. The exact thing happened with Samuel -- his first year, which was partial, he made the prorated amount of his second year salary. So the salary doesn't go up in the second year.. he would have made more than 170K in year 1 if he'd joined at the start of the season.

King Tut
03-23-2010, 01:07 PM
Funny how liar Mo also came out and said that Gerba will not be released and he only went back to Toronto to train on his own and prepare for the season opener..This organization is made up of a bunch of liars from top to bottom! Just say the fucking truth or don't say nothing at all you fucking wankers!

Parkdale
03-23-2010, 01:09 PM
.This organization is made up of a bunch of liars from top to bottom!
Just say the fucking truth or don't say nothing at all you fucking wankers!

^ tone it down

S_D
03-23-2010, 01:14 PM
KristianJack (http://twitter.com/KristianJack)

So Preki confirms Gerba's "not in their plans" yet he has an untradeable contract and isn't budging on getting only a % of his money.....

and the latest tweet
so Mo Johnston is once again left to clean up his own mess - finding a team to take him or cut him and pay him to sit at home. Farce.

glad to see KJ not holding back.

Shaughno
03-23-2010, 01:15 PM
I agree with Tut actually. Don't feed us bullshit when you know damn well it's nowhere near the truth.

I don't pay damn good money to be fed lies on a consistent basis. I get that enough at work.

dantdot
03-23-2010, 01:18 PM
and the latest tweet
so Mo Johnston is once again left to clean up his own mess - finding a team to take him or cut him and pay him to sit at home. Farce.

glad to see KJ not holding back.

If you missed KJ's short rant on TFC yesterday on the footy show, it's worth a listen.

Parkdale
03-23-2010, 01:22 PM
I agree with Tut actually. Don't feed us bullshit when you know damn well it's nowhere near the truth.


the complaint is valid, the tone is not.

calling everyone in the organization 'liars' and 'fucking wankers' might be fine elsewhere online, but not here.

MG42
03-23-2010, 01:24 PM
^ tone it down


$5 beers? :)

Parkdale
03-23-2010, 01:25 PM
^ I know where you can find those!

MG42
03-23-2010, 01:26 PM
^ I know where you can find those!

in cans no less!

Suds
03-23-2010, 01:28 PM
Question is what will TFC get in return?

Some balls?

http://www.artik.com/Images/Sports_Uniform/Soccer/ball%20bags/bag4.jpg



Are you MAD?!?!?!?? Do you know how much good quality soccer balls cost these days? We'll never get that many for him. :D

olegunnar
03-23-2010, 01:33 PM
Are you MAD?!?!?!?? Do you know how much good quality soccer balls cost these days? We'll never get that many for him. :D

If they come from the States it'll take ages to get them through customs. Getting the proper paperwork for new signings is apparently close to impossible.

We'll have to play the first few games without balls.

Parkdale
03-23-2010, 01:36 PM
We'll have to play the first few games without balls.

well then there's less wear and tear on the new grass!

Dirk Diggler
03-23-2010, 01:44 PM
I don't think Mo ever gave up anything to sign Gerba...except MLSE money.

Not to mention valuable cap space.

JuliquE
03-23-2010, 01:51 PM
Co-sign with Tut's sentiments; shame that the truth is always so difficult to come by -- that's the respect they have for, arguably, the league's strongest group of fans.

King Tut
03-23-2010, 03:02 PM
^ tone it down

Why? Cuz it's the truth? Cuz I don't sugar coat shit and say things the way they need to be said??

King Tut
03-23-2010, 03:03 PM
the complaint is valid, the tone is not.

calling everyone in the organization 'liars' and 'fucking wankers' might be fine elsewhere online, but not here.

So how would you say it in your classy world? Give me a lesson on your etiquette..LOL :rolleyes:

Section 117
03-23-2010, 03:10 PM
IMO everyone should just calm down.... I am the biggest anti Mo person that is out there.

But at the end of the day you had to remove Gerba as from what I hear he is not the happiest person to be around and that could spread.
I applaud Preki for sending him home. He doesn't train hard, doesn't score goals WTF is he good for anyways...

bgnewf
03-23-2010, 03:14 PM
So Preki essentially says the following about Gerba if you read between the lines:

Ali was out of shape

Ali had 5 weeks to impress us and did not

Ali does not track back and defend

Ali does not run hard

Ali does not have the backs of teammates




Way to make Ali Gerba a hot trading commodity there Preki. It would have been so much easier to thank him for his service and just say we were going in a different direction.

King Tut
03-23-2010, 03:19 PM
IMO everyone should just calm down.... I am the biggest anti Mo person that is out there.

But at the end of the day you had to remove Gerba as from what I hear he is not the happiest person to be around and that could spread.
I applaud Preki for sending him home. He doesn't train hard, doesn't score goals WTF is he good for anyways...

No problem with that. But no need to lie to us constantly like we're a bunch of idiots.

ManUtd4ever
03-23-2010, 03:20 PM
So Preki essentially says the following about Gerba if you read between the lines:

Ali was out of shape

Ali had 5 weeks to impress us and did not

Ali does not track back and defend

Ali does not run hard

Ali does not have the backs of teammates




Way to make Ali Gerba a hot trading commodity there Preki. It would have been so much easier to thank him for his service and just say we were going in a different direction.

I understand the sentiment of trying to present Gerba as a marketable commodity but as a supporter I also want to know the reasoning behind his departure. In this day and age of information technology, the truth always gets out anyways...

Nuvinho
03-23-2010, 03:21 PM
So Preki essentially says the following about Gerba if you read between the lines:

Ali was out of shape

Ali had 5 weeks to impress us and did not

Ali does not track back and defend

Ali does not run hard

Ali does not have the backs of teammates




Way to make Ali Gerba a hot trading commodity there Preki. It would have been so much easier to thank him for his service and just say we were going in a different direction.

He basically said Ali was fat and couldn't move....but in a nice way.

Ossington Mental Youth
03-23-2010, 03:24 PM
people woulda been pissed if he said otherwise.
i dont think he would have been easy to rid of anyways seeing as hes an international with high wages and a poor record...

Section 117
03-23-2010, 03:33 PM
No problem with that. But no need to lie to us constantly like we're a bunch of idiots.

This time they did not lie to us. He was sent home period. He is still techincaly part of the squad. We assumed that he was released when he was sent home.

I understand the fustrations with our Mo and his handling of the team. Trust me when I say I know how he is.

jloome
03-23-2010, 03:51 PM
If they come from the States it'll take ages to get them through customs. Getting the proper paperwork for new signings is apparently close to impossible.

We'll have to play the first few games without balls.

Easy solution: Send Mo to scout for balls in Brazil.

Batman
03-23-2010, 04:01 PM
Easy solution: Send Mo to scout for balls in Brazil.

OK...I'm resisting and will not comment on this. :D

Auzzy
03-23-2010, 04:18 PM
I agree this is a big problem, due to Gerba's guaranteed contract (whatever the amount is), and difficulty marketing him after the comments made about him. Plus TFC's tiny squad & lack of scoring threat, a season starting in a few days....

However, I don't think there was any lying in this regard. For example, see John Molinaros's article from 3/15 after speaking with Mo (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/03/15/sp-soccer-gerba.html (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2010/03/15/sp-soccer-gerba.html)):

"Johnston said Gerba has not been released by the team, but that the coaching staff felt it was necessary to send him back to Toronto because he wasn’t “up to scratch” in TFC’s pre-season thus far." Mo also mentioned that Gerba was on a guaranteed contract.


And from TFC's website on 3/16 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100316&content_id=8805072&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100316&content_id=8805072&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280)):

"This will be addressed further when the team returns back to Toronto."

Which they are now trying to do. If there were other rumours, then we shouldn't call those lies by Mo or anyone else. In fact, perhaps they've been too honest in this case, and making Gerba's reputation even worse. But generally we want that honesty, right...?

Auzzy
03-23-2010, 04:23 PM
BTW, there's a parallel (older) thread about Gerba...

ag futbol
03-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Throw another one on the scrap heap ... Gerba had "buyer beware" written all over him prior to coming here. In fact, I'd say a lot of guys who come here tend to have that issue.

Given, this is MLS and we're not exactly getting the cream talent. But I'd like to see a higher percentage of our signings (or trialists) come without careers that are dropping faster than Enron's stock or whispers of attitudes problems.

Give me more of the guys who are trending upward, even if it's from a league we'd consider lowly and have solid work ethic.

gtaguy
03-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Mo Johnston is the sole person responsible for the mess were in.. He can't find us a half decent canadian players to play in our squad much like he can't see outside the english/scottish league for half decent talent. I don't know where his ass or his head is located becuase im pretty certain he doesn't know it himself.

ONE WORD TO MO JO .. FAIL.....

Pinkie
03-23-2010, 09:29 PM
Way to make Ali Gerba a hot trading commodity there Preki. It would have been so much easier to thank him for his service and just say we were going in a different direction.

oh no, people never would've found out gerba was fat and slow if preki didn't say anything :(

Oblio2
03-23-2010, 09:32 PM
Bring back Andy FUCKING Welsh!!!!!!!!
:)

MG42
03-23-2010, 10:04 PM
Bring back Andy FUCKING Welsh!!!!!!!!
:)


YES!!!! Bring him back!!!!!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08dO3xa6wq3mf/610x.jpg

http://njmg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/25/goldthwaite_the_associated_press.jpg

nimamalek
03-23-2010, 10:18 PM
Preki rips Gerba a new one at the end of the interview.

http://torontofc.neulion.com/tfc/console.jsp

Hitcho
03-23-2010, 10:18 PM
Haha - gotta love Preki's no nonsense view of football:


What type of player, exactly, is Preki looking for to replace Gerba?

"Players who are mobile, people who run around, people who work both sides of the ball, people who are committed to the group. That's what we need," Preki said.

:D:D:D

Gixmo
03-23-2010, 10:29 PM
Wow, That's a pretty scathing bit of dialogue. Clearly, Gerba wasn't cutting it.

Super
03-24-2010, 12:06 AM
Bring back Andy FUCKING Welsh!!!!!!!!
:)

I love how there is ZERO mention of TFC on his bio page:
http://www.ytfc.net/page/FirstTeam/0,,10673~18832,00.html

torfchamilton
03-24-2010, 12:16 AM
I love how there is ZERO mention of TFC on his bio page:
http://www.ytfc.net/page/FirstTeam/0,,10673~18832,00.html (http://www.ytfc.net/page/FirstTeam/0,,10673%7E18832,00.html)


Love it!!! I would want to forget those playing days as well. It's amazing that he is still a professional footballer and can make a living at it. Does anyone know what type of money he would be making?

UltraSuperMegaMo
03-24-2010, 12:42 AM
Love it!!! I would want to forget those playing days as well. It's amazing that he is still a professional footballer and can make a living at it. Does anyone know what type of money he would be making?

The average compensation for League One and the MLS are almost the same - in the 150k US range. It's relative from the cost of living perspective, 150k in the US probably goes further than in England. He's probably makes 70-80k pounds a year.

raul10
03-24-2010, 01:30 AM
"Players who are mobile, people who run around, people who work both sides of the ball, people who are committed to the group. That's what we need," Preki said

sooo, you're saying we need a squad full of chad barrett? that's definitely what we need, forget about skilled players who actually know how to pass a ball. sheesh!

DOMIN8R
03-24-2010, 05:35 AM
What type of player, exactly, is Preki looking for to replace Gerba?
"Players who are mobile, people who run around, people who work both sides of the ball, people who are committed to the group. That's what we need," Preki said.


He must have passed his media training course with flying colours.:rolleyes:

MrHawk
03-24-2010, 07:20 AM
So unless I'm mistaken, our roster now consists of three balls; a goal net; a bag of grass seed; and Ted, BMO Field's late-night security guard.

Don't forget about Bitchy :)

TFCREDNWHITE
03-24-2010, 10:19 AM
Why does everyone have their panties in a twist!? Geez, Gerba was a lazy ass, so preki did the right thing and put him out to pasture!

Gerba = DONE

Lets move on to the next....

drewski
03-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Why does everyone have their panties in a twist!? Geez, Gerba was a lazy ass, so preki did the right thing and put him out to pasture!

Gerba = DONE

Lets move on to the next....

its not that Gerba was put out, I think most of us understand and accept that, its the deal that got him here in the first place that we're wound up about.

olegunnar
03-24-2010, 11:19 AM
its not that Gerba was put out, I think most of us understand and accept that, its the deal that got him here in the first place that we're wound up about.

Exactly
If his prorated salary last year was $170K+ ...imagine what it would be for a full season and it's guarenteed, and counts towards the cap. All for a guy that will score zero goals for us this year.

menefreghista
03-24-2010, 11:20 AM
its not that Gerba was put out, I think most of us understand and accept that, its the deal that got him here in the first place that we're wound up about.

And the lack of new signings.

Getting rid of Gerba, Robinson, Serioux is one thing.

Is it too much to ask for replacements? Before the actual season starts?

gtaguy
03-24-2010, 11:25 AM
its not that Gerba was put out, I think most of us understand and accept that, its the deal that got him here in the first place that we're wound up about.


Exactly.. Gerba was FAT AND LAZY last year before he signed , Seems like Mo didn't mind last year when he gave him a contract. Why is it now such a big problem.
We have a chimpanzee running this club. sorry a chimpanzee can run this club better then MO

DichioTFC
03-25-2010, 03:23 PM
its not that Gerba was put out, I think most of us understand and accept that, its the deal that got him here in the first place that we're wound up about.

EXACTLY!!! and the fact that its TWO DAYS before the start of the season!! what good team has these kinds of problems this deep into their preseason?

i think we should convince mojo to buy out his own contract

BuSaPuNk
03-25-2010, 03:25 PM
Exactly.. Gerba was FAT AND LAZY last year before he signed , Seems like Mo didn't mind last year when he gave him a contract. Why is it now such a big problem.
We have a chimpanzee running this club. sorry a chimpanzee can run this club better then MO

It's like we say at my work. NASA space monkeys have a higher IQ than who's in charge. LOL

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zJBQQ1qXfEo/Sn8gDlUw17I/AAAAAAAAAek/FhX8LQ0Or4c/s400/to+the+moon+alice.JPG

TO THE MOON ALICE!!

Shakes McQueen
03-25-2010, 03:47 PM
I was happy when Gerba was signed, because he had historically shown an ability to simply score goals. I'm pretty sure he even scored one in his first or second game.

From that point on, he didn't do shit. He was slow, he never linked up with the midfield well, and he didn't score a goal to save his life. See ya later, Gerbs.

- Scott

Shaughno
03-25-2010, 03:48 PM
Gerba was never going to work with Preki IMO. It's like oil and water. Preki wants hard workers. Gerba wants easy service infront of the net.

Detroit_TFC
03-25-2010, 03:52 PM
Gerba was never going to work with Preki IMO. It's like oil and water. Preki wants hard workers. Gerba wants easy service infront of the net.

If Preki assembles a team of hard workers, I'd be happy with that even if we don't win all the time. Nothing frosts me like a guy just going through the motions out there (cue Cunningham footage).

Shaughno
03-25-2010, 03:54 PM
If Preki assembles a team of hard workers, I'd be happy with that even if we don't win all the time. Nothing frosts me like a guy just going through the motions out there (cue Cunningham footage).

From what I've seen of Preki's teams in the past, you have no worries of that. Players who haven't given 100% don't seem to get much, if any, playing time.

Nuvinho
03-29-2010, 03:21 PM
So is Gerba still sitting at home?

I heard he was working out at BMO Field when the team was in Oakville.

We need his money to sign others!!

sashavukelich
03-29-2010, 03:25 PM
yeah. I've been surprised there has been no mention of Gerba's status, besides us obviously knowing 'he's not in our plans'

Preki, though, i've got a great feeling about him and his clarity of vision. Did Preki do the buying at Chivas? if so, i can't see the point of mo, seems redundant to me.

bgnewf
03-29-2010, 03:31 PM
So is Gerba still sitting at home?

I heard he was working out at BMO Field when the team was in Oakville.

We need his money to sign others!!


Could not agree more but at the end of the day where are we with this guy?

1) Gerba is essentially untradeable. There is no way any MLS side is going to want him after he was sent home. I would not be surprised if he was only sent home after every conceiveable way to get something of value for him from another MLS side was completely exhausted. Sending him home before that makes no sense at all.

2) He is on guaranteed money. He is getting paid. Unless he really wants to play elsewhere there is little incentive for him to want to do anything.

3) He probably feels (rightly or wrongly) that he owes little to TFC and that he can take his sweet time deciding what he wants to do.

I think unless he negotiates a buyout very soon that we might see him on the books for a while yet.

Waggy
03-29-2010, 03:49 PM
Could not agree more but at the end of the day where are we with this guy?

1) Gerba is essentially untradeable. There is no way any MLS side is going to want him after he was sent home. I would not be surprised if he was only sent home after every conceiveable way to get something of value for him from another MLS side was completely exhausted. Sending him home before that makes no sense at all.

2) He is on guaranteed money. He is getting paid. Unless he really wants to play elsewhere there is little incentive for him to want to do anything.

3) He probably feels (rightly or wrongly) that he owes little to TFC and that he can take his sweet time deciding what he wants to do.

I think unless he negotiates a buyout very soon that we might see him on the books for a while yet.

I know MLS hates doing business with competitors, but a loan deal to the Shitecaps or Limpact would probably be the best way to get rid of him. If I were Mo that's where I'd be looking. Hell, Garbers in town right now. Maybe someone can wine/dine him and explain to him since we're hosting the Cup we need a decent team. Then maybe he can get some shenanigans going our way (2nd DP? Don't mind if I do! wait... that sounded wrong)

Nodoubtguy
03-29-2010, 03:55 PM
I heard Gerba was at the Football Factory during the opener....no joke

BFin
03-29-2010, 03:58 PM
Do they have specials on food during TFC games? If so, it makes sense.

Shakes McQueen
03-29-2010, 04:02 PM
As much as I admire Preki for sending Gerba home - doing so essentially tanked his trade value, even to USL teams. Nobody wants a slow, out of shape striker, who was actually sent home for being useless and out of shape. Even on a loan.

My guess is we end up eating his contract, and buying him out. Or, we send him to another team, but still end up eating a significant part of his contract.

Gerba's contract is going to be a millstone around this team's neck. I can't believe we are paying him as much as we are. Another savvy business decision by Mo.

Signing underperforming players to expensive mutli-year deals (Gerba, Barrett), or dealing for useless multi-year contracted players (Garcia), despite our massive allocation only lasting for one year? Good job, Mr. Johnston!

- Scott

scooterTFC
03-29-2010, 05:49 PM
Is it possible that they are actually trying to make him eat big pay cut to stay with the team? Obviously the team statements are strongly worded in saying "he doesn't fit into our plans.." Those statemens and the act of sending him home, not only kills his trade/loan value but it also diminishes his ability to get paid by another club after a buyout. So perhaps by being very public and loud about things they build some leverage to force him to stay at reduced pay? Weird way to treat a player on your roster. Their has to be a reason for the very strange and public handling of this situation. Its too unconventional to not have some unseen purpose. Perhaps there is some other angle I'm unaware of - does the league office ever hand out 'get out jail free cards' on the cap hit for buyouts of really bad signings?

ManUtd4ever
03-29-2010, 05:58 PM
As much as I admire Preki for sending Gerba home - doing so essentially tanked his trade value, even to USL teams. Nobody wants a slow, out of shape striker, who was actually sent home for being useless and out of shape. Even on a loan.

My guess is we end up eating his contract, and buying him out. Or, we send him to another team, but still end up eating a significant part of his contract.

Gerba's contract is going to be a millstone around this team's neck. I can't believe we are paying him as much as we are. Another savvy business decision by Mo.

Signing underperforming players to expensive mutli-year deals (Gerba, Barrett), or dealing for useless multi-year contracted players (Garcia), despite our massive allocation only lasting for one year? Good job, Mr. Johnston!

- Scott

The approximate amount of money required to sign the necessary reinforcements to the roster is roughly the equivalent of the amount currently paid to Garcia, Gerba and Robbo, two of which are no longer on the roster...:facepalm:

Broadview
03-29-2010, 06:30 PM
Their has to be a reason for the very strange and public handling of this situation. Its too unconventional to not have some unseen purpose. Perhaps there is some other angle I'm unaware of - does the league office ever hand out 'get out jail free cards' on the cap hit for buyouts of really bad signings?

It's just the kind of hard ass Preki is. It's his way or the highway no matter who you are or how much you make. He made that clear to everyone at Chivas USA when he turfed Amado, who they had just traded a DP slot for. Now he's done it at TFC by dumping Gerba.

Blizzard
03-29-2010, 07:19 PM
It's just the kind of hard ass Preki is. It's his way or the highway no matter who you are or how much you make. He made that clear to everyone at Chivas USA when he turfed Amado, who they had just traded a DP slot for. Now he's done it at TFC by dumping Gerba.

Imagine what good Amado could have done for Chivas under the right circumstances though.

onemanbarmyarmy
03-30-2010, 05:16 AM
Yet we can't just let Garcia sit at home?

Carts
03-30-2010, 06:26 AM
Yet we can't just let Garcia sit at home?

Good Point...

If I look at Garcia & Gerba, and could pick one of them to sit on the bench over the other - I'd pick Gerba...

Hell, if we're down by a goal we can at least throw Gerba in for a few mins and hope he grabs a gift of a goal - a ball that lands on his foot in the box or something - hell, he can draw a defender to him to open up a little space... Garcia? Anyone see the plus side...???

Carts...

Shway
03-30-2010, 07:00 AM
a red card? penalty shot? a giveway?



oh wait yyou said plus side

icecoldbeer
03-30-2010, 09:04 AM
Frank Yallop doesn't want him back in SJ?

canadian_bhoy
03-30-2010, 09:05 AM
I heard Gerba was at the Football Factory during the opener....no joke

I heard he was at Mandarin.

Can't blame him. They are the masters of taste afterall.

http://deadon.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/steam_tray.jpg

menefreghista
03-30-2010, 09:12 AM
Frank Yallop doesn't want him back in SJ?

Very doubtful based on the salary we are paying him.

TFC is probably not capable of taking another Carl Robinson type cap hit.

shutupkid
03-30-2010, 04:42 PM
I heard he was at Mandarin.

Can't blame him. They are the masters of taste afterall.

http://deadon.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/steam_tray.jpg
I assumed he was at McDonalds.

drewski
03-31-2010, 11:54 AM
JohnMolinaro (http://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro)
I hope to have some news on Toronto FC's Ali Gerba by the end of the day.

dupont
03-31-2010, 01:17 PM
Interesting. I hope the news somehow leads us to getting another player in.

Nuvinho
04-05-2010, 12:06 PM
JohnMolinaro (http://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro)

#TFC (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23TFC) reaches dealwith Gerba to teminate his contract


He's gone!!

billyfly
04-05-2010, 12:10 PM
But what does it mean to TFC and cap?

Suds
04-05-2010, 12:15 PM
But what does it mean to TFC and cap?


I have the same question. Gerba was on a guaranteed contract. Does this mean his salary is now off our books or does TFC still each a portion against the cap?

Shaughno
04-05-2010, 12:16 PM
In the past I thought it meant the player was compensated, but I'm not sure if it comes off the cap or not...

Pigfynn
04-05-2010, 12:23 PM
All that matters is that we re-coup as much cap space as possible...and that dude never took the field wearing Danny's number :)

Lucky Strike
04-05-2010, 12:43 PM
All that matters is that we re-coup as much cap space as possible...and that dude never took the field wearing Danny's number :)

Yeah I saw that, what kind of blasphemy is that?

Oldtimer
04-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Since Gerba's contract has been terminated, let's continue the discussion here:

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=21406