the ellusive just how much TFC have in cap room thread

[Yohan]

because i'm bored again. lol

taken from MLS players union site. assuming no change in contract from end of last season
first number is base salary and second number is base salary plus guaranteed compensation/bonuses

Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 34,000.00 $ 34,000.00
Barrett Chad F $ 195,000.00 $ 202,500.00
Brennan Jim D $ 185,000.00 $ 193,250.00
Cronin Sam M $ 36,000.00 $ 84,000.00
de Guzman Julian M $ 909,600.00 $ 956,350.00
DeRosario Dwayne M $ 357,000.00 $ 425,750.00
Edwards Brian GK $ 39,600.00 $ 48,350.00
Frei Stefan GK $ 65,000.00 $ 120,000.00
Gala Gabe D-M $ 20,100.00 $ 20,100.00
Garcia Nick D $ 190,000.00 $198,750.00
Gomez Emmanuel D $ 35,700.00 $ 41,300.00
Harden Ty D $ 34,008.00 $ 34,008.00
Ibrahim Fuad F $ 75,000.00 $ 108,000.00
Peterson Jacob F $ 100,000.00 $ 118,750.00
Sayang Amadou D $ 34,008.00 $ 40,563.55
White O'Brian F $ 36,000.00 $ 113,000.00
Wynne Marvell D $ 57,000.00 $ 159,500.00

*Robbo salary compensation $175,000.00 (assuming)
*de Guzman's DP salary only $415,000.00 against the cap
*Assumes Frei and Ibrahim are still GA thus not count against the Cap
*Unknown how much of Garcia's salary is San Jose is paying still
*Took Gerba off the books, though unknown how will his guaranteed salary will count towards cap

So doing the numbers, I count $2,083,416 in base salary and $2,886,138 with guaranteed compensation.

I'm pretty sure guaranteed compensation/bonuses do not count against the cap. So assuming salary cap of 2.4 million, TFC has about $300,000 left in cap room.

However, unknown how much allocation money TFC has still, plus whatever allocation from end of last season for failing to make the playoffs. Allocation money can be used to pay some of a player's salary when signing new players (hence why you can go over your salary cap with allocation money)

So, TFC has 17 players on books (from league max of 24) and that's very little money to use to fill all the roster spots. But with moderate increse in salary cap this year (pretty good odds for this happening, even if it's something like $300,000 incrrease), some bargain signings and signing good players to fill the roster spots with remaining money, it's not all doom and gloom...

Let me know if i made any mistakes in the calculations

[TFCtoMUFC]

Its funny that Nick Garcia makes more money then three of our best four players combined. Frei, Cronin and Attakora combined make 135,000, or 54,000 less then Garcia.

[arbogast]

Its funny that Nick Garcia makes more money then three of our best four players combined. Frei, Cronin and Attakora combined make 135,000, or 54,000 less then Garcia.


Some people on the boards have been saying that some of Garcia's salary is being paid by San Jose. Is this fact and if so, does anyone know how much?

[jloome]

Pretty sure Gerba's salary counts; so we'd only have about $123,000 plus allocation lefy unless TFC can get a buy out that in some way doesn't count against salaries.

Can't find a definitive answer quickly but it appears only your base salary counts against the cap, as you note.

[Super]

I didn't think I could get anymore frustrated about the salary cap, but then here we go. All the millions of dollars TFC earns, and we can't spend any of it on the product. Incredible.

[TFCAlbertaGirl]

Still think thats our boys deserve to earn more than me...most of them don't. Seriously why are they playing then? Our boys have heart and just wanna play!

[JohnWalter]

I seem to recall the Generation Adidas players don't count against the cap or something (??)

[Nuvinho]

the base salary amount is correct, similiar to what I have calculated.

[rocker]

I didn't think I could get anymore frustrated about the salary cap, but then here we go. All the millions of dollars TFC earns, and we can't spend any of it on the product. Incredible.

it's all relative though. if TFC had 1million more to spend they might give a guaranteed contract to a guy who contributes nothing making 700K ;)

[Shaughno]

Some people on the boards have been saying that some of Garcia's salary is being paid by San Jose. Is this fact and if so, does anyone know how much?

I believe that's what I heard as well. No idea how much though.


Pretty sure Gerba's salary counts; so we'd only have about $123,000 plus allocation lefy unless TFC can get a buy out that in some way doesn't count against salaries.

Can't find a definitive answer quickly but it appears only your base salary counts against the cap, as you note.

Yup, until anything otherwise is announced, he's on our books.

[Oldtimer]

GOL TV (owned by MLSE) said that Mo has $600K in allocation money, so the total to play with is $900K plus whatever increase in the cap occurs.

That is enough to sign several decent players, however there are so many spots on the roster, it will be a challenge to fill it up, plus I have little confidence that Mo is able to get good players at a reasonable price.

[bgnewf]

GOL TV (owned by MLSE) ...however there are so many spots on the roster, it will be a challenge to fill it up, plus I have little confidence that Mo is able to get good players at a reasonable price...

Could not agree more Oldtimer. :facepalm:

The other thing to remember is since day one we have essentially never really had what could be consoiered a full roster.

[ua-kozak_TFC]

Ibrahim Fuad 110 k WOW..... just because he was a one hit wonder in second season? :facepalm: Mo is really a great scout... I mean for some one who rarely played last season and who had a few minutes as a sub a year back I think this price tag is a little steep.
If every one still thinks that mo is a good manager who knows what he is doing.. I got a lap-top to sell u...

[Shaughno]

Uh... he's a Gen Adidas player. Which means a) we don't pay his salary and b) that's pretty average for a GA player after a few seasons.

[Steve]

GOL TV (owned by MLSE) said that Mo has $600K in allocation money, so the total to play with is $900K plus whatever increase in the cap occurs.

That is enough to sign several decent players, however there are so many spots on the roster, it will be a challenge to fill it up, plus I have little confidence that Mo is able to get good players at a reasonable price.

No, that's not quite right. See, the problem with allocation is, you can only use it to sign half of a player. So, if the 300k is correct, we have 600k to spend on new players. However, since Gerba still counts, we only have like 125k to spend, doubling it with allocation gives us 250k to sign 7 players (plus whatever SJ is paying Garcia).

[TFC Cityboy]

Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 34,000.00 $ 34,000.00
Gala Gabe D-M $ 20,100.00 $ 20,100.00
Garcia Nick D $ 190,000.00 $198,750.00
Ibrahim Fuad F $ 75,000.00 $ 108,000.

So our best defender gets $34k while Garcia the plank gets $198,750.
Gabe Gala would be better off working in MacDonalds, and how the f##k did Fuad Ibrahim score that kind of money as a fringe player? Seems like the pay scale is all-to-cock.

[Yohan]

So our best defender gets $34k while Garcia the plank gets $198,750.
Gabe Gala would be better off working in MacDonalds, and how the f##k did Fuad Ibrahim score that kind of money as a fringe player? Seems like the pay scale is all-to-cock.
San Jose negotiated Garcia's salary, after Garcia had a strong season 2 yrs ago
Ibrahim's GA contract was negotiated by MLS

[reggie]

does not matter...how and where they got the money.
they are still mo's pickups and you can add barrett's 200k for another 3 yrs.
WE ARE FUCKED AND MO MUST GO NOW

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Ibrahim Fuad 110 k WOW..... just because he was a one hit wonder in second season? :facepalm: Mo is really a great scout... I mean for some one who rarely played last season and who had a few minutes as a sub a year back I think this price tag is a little steep.
If every one still thinks that mo is a good manager who knows what he is doing.. I got a lap-top to sell u...

he asked to come here because he has family here, he rarely played because we would have owed Dallas more, i still hate Mo and want him out, dont get it twisted but this kid is only 18 and will only get better also i might be wrong but hes a GA

[Ossington Mental Youth]

San Jose negotiated Garcia's salary, after Garcia had a strong season 2 yrs ago
Ibrahim's GA contract was negotiated by MLS

also if im not mistaken San Jose is paying the majority of garcias contract

[reggie]

if that's the case...then just cut the guy..

[Broadview]

MLS clubs and the league in general keep the nitty gritty details of cap dollars and allocation etc vague for a reason. Clubs do it to keep agents and rival clubs somewhat in the dark when negotiating over players salaries, trades and potential signings. The lack of transparancy also suits the league in that, well, it just suits them so that they can make up some rules as they go along. Mainly in the hopes of maintaining that sweet precious parity.

This is why when allocations are traded and given, no numbers are mentioned. Just this full/partial malarky. From what I understand, a "full" allocation is supposed to be enough for an average starter, around $100,000. A "partial" can be anything less than that.

[Broadview]

if that's the case...then just cut the guy..

His contract is guaranteed. He can't be cut for merely being not good.

[reggie]

just pay him to stay home...like gerba..

[spark]

Is De Guz's salary accurate? Am I imagining things that when we played LA at the end of the season it was all "#1 DP v #2" in terms of salary ? I was under the impression he was making in the area of $3million a year!!