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Parkdale
02-03-2010, 12:03 PM
2010 Schedule will be released at 2:00pm today (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20100202&content_id=8010590&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp)

First Kick Info that is already out: LINK (http://web.mlsnet.com/mls/schedule/2010/first_kick.jsp)

http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/


03/27 - Saturday at Columbus 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

April
04/10 - Saturday at New England 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
04/15 - Thursday Philadelphia 7:00 p.m. ESPN2/Deportes
04/18 - Sunday at Colorado TBD DK, MLSnet.com
04/25 - Sunday Seattle 2:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

May
05/01 - Saturday at Real Salt Lake 9:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/08 - Saturday Chicago 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/15 - Saturday at LA Galaxy 10:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/22- Saturday New England 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/29- Saturday at San Jose 10:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

June
06/05 - Saturday Kansas City 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
06/09 - Wednesday Dallas 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
06/26 - Wednesday LA Galaxy 7:30 p.m. FSC/FSE

July
07/01 - Thursday Houston 7:00 p.m. ESPN2/Deportes
07/10 - Saturday Colorado TBD DK, MLSnet.com
07/17 - Saturday at Philadelphia 3:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

August
08/07 -Saturday Chivas USA 4:00 p.m. TF
08/11 - Wednesday at New York 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
08/21 -Saturday New York 1:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
08/28 - Saturday Real Salt Lake 7:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

September
09/04 - Saturday at Dallas 830 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/08 - Wednesday at Chicago 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/11 - Saturday D.C. United 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/18 - Saturday at Houston 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/25 - Saturday San Jose 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

October
10/02 - Saturday at Seattle 3:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
10/09 - Saturday at Chivas USA 10:30 p.m. FSC/FSE
10/16 - Saturday Columbus 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
10/23 - Saturday at D.C. United 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com


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"TFC's 2010 NCC Schedule:

Wednesday, April 28, home to Montreal Impact at 8:00 p.m.
Wednesday, May 12, at Montreal Impact at 8:00 p.m.
Wednesday, May 19, at Vancouver Whitecaps at 10:00 p.m.
Wednesday, June 2, home to Vancouver Whitecaps at 8:00 p.m.


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TFC's 2010 CL Schedule:

Tuesday, August 17
Toronto FC (CAN) vs. Cruz Azul (MEX), 8 p.m.

Tuesday, August 24
Arabe Unido (PAN) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 10 p.m.

Wednesday, September 15
Real Salt Lake (USA) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 10 p.m.

Tuesday, September 21
Cruz Azul (MEX) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 10 p.m.

Tuesday, September 28
Toronto (CAN) vs. Real Salt Lake (USA), 8 p.m.

Tuesday, October 19
Toronto FC (CAN) vs. Arabe Unido (PAN), 8 p.m.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 12:05 PM
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Parkdale
02-03-2010, 12:07 PM
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"The First Kick has already been announced with Toronto FC opening the season .... followed by a Saturday, April 10 date in New England.
Toronto FC's home opener is at 8:00 p.m. on Thursday, April 15th against expansion club Philadelphia Union."


LINK TO RPB MEMBERS TRIP TO NEW ENGLAND - THREAD (http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=19663)

ForestGlade
02-03-2010, 02:01 PM
IT'S 2:01 WHERE IS IT??????????

Gah

Pigfynn
02-03-2010, 02:01 PM
Let's go! all the sados are waiting!

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:03 PM
I think I broke my refresh button - I've been hitting it too much!

Northern Soul
02-03-2010, 02:04 PM
GRRRR....I want to plan when I'm coming to TO for my first ever TFC match! C'mon you MLS bastards!

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:05 PM
dc united is out...


9/11 here


10/23 in dc

Rochdale
02-03-2010, 02:05 PM
DC united have released it on their website. Last game in DC for Toronto FC

redangeldragnet
02-03-2010, 02:05 PM
5 minutes late. Pffff

Yagbod
02-03-2010, 02:05 PM
it's up!

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:05 PM
http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/
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http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/
http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/


HERE IT IS BOYS!

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:07 PM
03/27 - Saturday at Columbus 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

April
04/10 - Saturday at New England 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
04/15 - Thursday Philadelphia 7:00 p.m. ESPN2/Deportes
04/18 - Sunday at Colorado TBD DK, MLSnet.com
04/25 - Sunday Seattle 2:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

May
05/01 - Saturday at Real Salt Lake 9:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/08 - Saturday Chicago 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/15 - Saturday at LA Galaxy 10:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/22- Saturday New England 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
05/29- Saturday at San Jose 10:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

June
06/05 - Saturday Kansas City 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
06/09 - Wednesday Dallas 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
06/26 - Wednesday LA Galaxy 7:30 p.m. FSC/FSE

July
07/01 - Thursday Houston 7:00 p.m. ESPN2/Deportes
07/10 - Saturday Colorado TBD DK, MLSnet.com
07/17 - Saturday at Philadelphia 3:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

August
08/07 -Saturday Chivas USA 4:00 p.m. TF
08/11 - Wednesday at New York 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
08/21 -Saturday New York 1:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
08/28 - Saturday Real Salt Lake 7:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

September
09/04 - Saturday at Dallas 830 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/08 - Wednesday at Chicago 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/11 - Saturday D.C. United 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/18 - Saturday at Houston 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
09/25 - Saturday San Jose 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

October
10/02 - Saturday at Seattle 3:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
10/09 - Saturday at Chivas USA 10:30 p.m. FSC/FSE
10/16 - Saturday Columbus 4:00 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
10/23 - Saturday at D.C. United 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

Nodoubtguy
02-03-2010, 02:07 PM
Looks pretty balanced at a quick glance.....no more then 2 road games in a row

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:07 PM
no becks again...ENGLAND a shoe in to go to the FINAL! ;)

GBV
02-03-2010, 02:08 PM
so is the opener 7 or 8?

or both?

come on.

nancymiranda
02-03-2010, 02:08 PM
Its only the first 4 weeks.....Complete schedule to come out at a later date...
oh man... and I was soooo excited!

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:08 PM
fac ny...WEDS!

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:09 PM
Its only the first 4 weeks.....Complete schedule to come out at a later date...
oh man... and I was soooo excited!

http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/ (http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/)

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:09 PM
Fuck me... Looks like I won't be going to the new stadium in Jersey this year. Wednesday night?!?!

werewolf
02-03-2010, 02:09 PM
Three games during the World Cup. Though one is during an off-day, one is the same day as the third-place match, and the other is first day of the Round of 16.

redangeldragnet
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
there's a mistake w/ the LA home game in June. the 26th is a Sat, not a Wed

Nodoubtguy
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
Fuck me... Looks like I won't be going to the new stadium in Jersey this year. Wednesday night?!?!

Chicago too!!! BALLS!!!

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
And Chicago (away) on a Wednesday?!?!?!?!

daner90
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
What is with the Wednesday games...they are hurting road trip potential that is for sure...

ForestGlade
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
5 straight home games from June-July, nice

werewolf
02-03-2010, 02:10 PM
May 22nd vs. NE. @4pm

Same day as Champions League final.

Northern Soul
02-03-2010, 02:11 PM
Hmm...June 26th isn't a Wednesday....so either they meant the Wed the 23rd or Sat the 26th.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:11 PM
5 night games.... one of those SAT NIGHT

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:11 PM
Looks like these two will be the big road trips for me this year.

07/17 - Saturday at Philadelphia 3:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Hmm...June 26th isn't a Wednesday....so either they meant the Wed the 23rd or Sat the 26th.

Yeah... you're right.

What the hell is MLS smoking?

nancymiranda
02-03-2010, 02:12 PM
http://www.pazoen.com/thumbs/jumping-smiley.gif


its up.... its up..... its up!
Let the games beginnnnnnnnnnnnn

rocker
02-03-2010, 02:12 PM
tough end to the season though.. last nine games: 3 home, 6 away. or if you just look at October: 1 home, 3 away.

DavydMT
02-03-2010, 02:13 PM
not good both NYC and Chicago are midweek away trips

Boris
02-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Looks like these two will be the big road trips for me this year.

07/17 - Saturday at Philadelphia 3:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

prob phili...i am going back to KC thats for sure!

ForestGlade
02-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Hey, home game on Canada Day again!

werewolf
02-03-2010, 02:13 PM
DC on 10/23, Sat night, potential playoff implications.

JonO
02-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Managed to get lucky - doesn't look like i'll have to miss any games due to weddings/world cup, but no NYC or Chicago for me this year...

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:14 PM
What is with the Wednesday games...they are hurting road trip potential that is for sure...

I get the impression MLS doesn't want TFC supporters going on road trips. LOL

Roogsy
02-03-2010, 02:14 PM
Am I reading that right? We have our home opener on Thursday and then the team flies to Colorado for a Sunday game?

That's a horrible idea.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:14 PM
our 2nd last game is in Columbus...... we better have a locked in playoff spot well before that!

daner90
02-03-2010, 02:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing whoopster, need more balance...

I may still try to do New York, but time off is hard to get for me.

werewolf
02-03-2010, 02:14 PM
LA on 06/26...no Beckham again? :rofl:

Darlofletch
02-03-2010, 02:14 PM
in chicago on wednesday? arse! also the la game, 26th is a saturday, wednesday is the 23rd (which would work out great for me if that's correct)

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:15 PM
la game is SAT! not weds!

06/26 - Saturdayat Toronto FC 7:30 p.m.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:15 PM
07/17 - Saturday at Philadelphia 3:30 p.m.


http://www.fortheloveoffood.com/images/love_park_philadelphia.jpg


see you in Philly!

MartinUtd
02-03-2010, 02:15 PM
Not much room for NCC games in May. Hopefully Vancouver away is as late as possible.

Nodoubtguy
02-03-2010, 02:16 PM
looks like Boston, Philly, KC, and DC for me. Really want to do NYC, but that Wednesday is a killer. Don't they know we want to do their new stadium?

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:16 PM
07/17 - Saturday at Philadelphia 3:30 p.m.


http://www.fortheloveoffood.com/images/love_park_philadelphia.jpg


see you in Philly!

tickets will be scarce!

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:17 PM
tickets will be scarce!

I'm sure there will be room for 200-300 of us.

kitchener-TFC
02-03-2010, 02:17 PM
No ridiculous road trip in the summer!

Carefree
02-03-2010, 02:17 PM
Labour-day weekend in Dallas!!!

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:18 PM
KC is a night game which works out for a road trip too. And it's a long weekend!

FluSH
02-03-2010, 02:18 PM
I'm definately happy...

Kansas City was so nice... I'll do it twice!


07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

You can't beat watching TFC followed by the best BBQ Pork Ribs in the world.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 02:18 PM
and now the TFC site has it up. We scooped them again ;)

http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/schedule/2010/

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:19 PM
If Philly doesn't work out.... we'll take over KC!

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:19 PM
I'm definately happy...

Kansas City was so nice... I'll do it twice!


07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

You can't beat watching TFC followed by the best BBQ Pork Ribs in the world.

FLUSH... it's the long weekend too!

Nuvinho
02-03-2010, 02:21 PM
1 game during The EX? free admission ;)

boban
02-03-2010, 02:22 PM
no becks again...ENGLAND a shoe in to go to the FINAL! ;)
What a joke. In 4 seasons we don't have one game with Becks playing.


Also, sucks the Red Bulls game in NY is midweek.
I was actually thinking of going to that one. Not now :(

werewolf
02-03-2010, 02:23 PM
Maybe one day I will see Beckham as a visiting player at BMO...one day.

Games during the Champions League final and World Cup lacks in form. I know its not unavoidable, but hopefully they change the game times if necessary.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:24 PM
one of your wishes came thorugh PARKY!

headin into the long weekend! :)

07/01 - ThursdayHouston7:00 p.m.

TFC Via Buffalo
02-03-2010, 02:24 PM
Well, assuming I do move to NYC in July, I got 7 flights to take to get up for the remaining home games. I wish the begining of the season was more front loaded for selfish reasons. Whatever. Jet Blue for Life!! :scarf:

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:24 PM
Yeah... but I can't believe the CL final is on Saturday this year!?!

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:26 PM
whens the NCC out?

Platts
02-03-2010, 02:28 PM
April will be air-miles rewards Month in spades!!
Back and forth across the continent, that will be tough.

And what do you know...Summer home Games !!!!!!

Oldtimer
02-03-2010, 02:28 PM
The LA game is Saturday:


06/26 - Saturday at Toronto FC 4:30 p.m. http://web.mlsnet.com/imgs/icons/tickets.gif (http://web.mlsnet.com/t280/tickets/) FSC, FSE

from the Galaxy's site.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:29 PM
The LA game is Saturday:



from the Galaxy's site.


the game is 7:30pm

Nuvinho
02-03-2010, 02:31 PM
whens the NCC out?

Tomorrow.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:31 PM
Philly shall be a must..with NYC..and Chicago out of the question

Oldtimer
02-03-2010, 02:32 PM
the game is 7:30pm

7:30 Wednesday on TFC's site,

4:30 Saturday on the LAG site.

daner90
02-03-2010, 02:33 PM
HAHA as I am browsing the schedule a TFC ticket rep calls me and tries to sell me a Ransom pack...I was just like ya no thanks...

She did confirm that North End Seats would be for sale in the next month

Oldtimer
02-03-2010, 02:34 PM
7:30 Wednesday on TFC's site,

4:30 Saturday on the LAG site.

My bad, 7:30 here is 4:30 in LA. It's Saturday, though.

TFC_Junky
02-03-2010, 02:34 PM
DC on 10/23, Sat night, potential playoff implications.

Sweet, road trip for my birthday!!! WHOOOHOOOOO!!!!

Shway
02-03-2010, 02:34 PM
from the Union site:


WEEK 16
Thursday, July 15
Toronto FC at Philadelphia Union 3:30 p.m.

Roogsy
02-03-2010, 02:34 PM
Looking it over it is a pretty crappy schedule.

And it does look like the league is trying to discourage us from travelling...I don't know if it's true, but it sure does look like it.

FluSH
02-03-2010, 02:35 PM
FLUSH... it's the long weekend too!


Can it get any better?!?!

The only worry is that we will have a MASSIVE road trip to Philly... and everyone will be broke by Kansas haha

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:36 PM
from the Union site:

haha..what a mess!!!

scooter
02-03-2010, 02:38 PM
not to happy about home opener on a thursday night which means no tailgate too
and wednesday games again
but overall whatever -- i will be there
tough with all the other stuff going on too but tfc first and can always tape the other games and watch them later in the day

the main thing is things are going on

rpb london --- how many sleeps ??

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:39 PM
Can it get any better?!?!

The only worry is that we will have a MASSIVE road trip to Philly... and everyone will be broke by Kansas haha

Ive had visions of this holding up a TFC scarf......and wrapped in a huge flag! :)

http://glutenfreetriathlete.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/philadelphia-rocky-statue-284x300.jpg

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:39 PM
But the news about the home opener being on Thursday night has been around for a while.

T.Reis
02-03-2010, 02:39 PM
there's a mistake w/ the LA home game in June. the 26th is a Sat, not a Wed

I'm dissapointed with this date. I thought MLS would do everything in their power to make sure that TFC fans finally see Beckham (no, all-star game don't count) actually play. I'm assuming this is towards the tale end of the World Cup so maybe no Beckham again?

Whoop
02-03-2010, 02:39 PM
Can it get any better?!?!

The only worry is that we will have a MASSIVE road trip to Philly... and everyone will be broke by Kansas haha

I think I might make KC a priority then worry about Philly.

MUFC_Niagara
02-03-2010, 02:39 PM
screwed out of Becks again....thanks MLS!

werewolf
02-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Tomorrow.

Wonder if the CSA will schedule any Canadian Championship matches during the first two-weeks of the WC when there are no MLS games.

Nodoubtguy
02-03-2010, 02:41 PM
from the Union site:

WTF???

MUFC_Niagara
02-03-2010, 02:41 PM
ahhhh....somebody cross reference this with other teams....there are mistakes all over the fuckin place

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:41 PM
Wonder if the CSA will schedule any Canadian Championship matches during the first two-weeks of the WC when there are no MLS games.

Thats fine with me...as long as they are 8:00pm starts!......plus id rather see them played then rather then cram our shed even more

Yagbod
02-03-2010, 02:41 PM
So much for going to the cottage this summer. Still it will be nice and toasty for most of our games this year, especially compared to last year when 7 of the 15 home games were over by the end of May. This year, only 4.

I am a little bummed that there are 6 away games in Sept and Oct. Could be tough if we are in a race.

Nodoubtguy
02-03-2010, 02:42 PM
Seriously, if Chicago, NY and possibly Philly are all mid week, thats a major missed opportunity!!!

MUFC_Niagara
02-03-2010, 02:47 PM
I agree with Roogsy, this schedule is terrible.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:47 PM
What a joke. In 4 seasons we don't have one game with Becks playing.


Also, sucks the Red Bulls game in NY is midweek.
I was actually thinking of going to that one. Not now :(

i here ya

Shway
02-03-2010, 02:47 PM
The league NEEDS to switch these games for the NY Red Bulls schedule, because San JOse wont have any travelling fans, the league will obviously want Becks and Donovan to play in the new stadium, so why not put San jose on the wednesday, and move Toronto to the saturday, so that they can have travelling fans, and it would be a home and home series






Current NY Red Bull Schedule

08/11 - Wednesday | Toronto FC | 7:30pm
08/14 - Saturday | LA Galaxy | 6:00pm
08/21 - Saturday |@ Toronto FC | 1:00pm
08/28 - Saturday | San Jose | 7:30pm

They need to change it to this:



08/11 - Wednesday | San Jose | 7:30pm
08/14 - Saturday | LA Galaxy | 6:00pm
08/21 - Saturday |@ Toronto FC | 1:00pm
08/28 - Saturday | Toronto FC | 7:30pm


Is there anyways we can talk to the league about this?

Darlofletch
02-03-2010, 02:47 PM
screwed out of Becks again....thanks MLS!

I'm quite happy about that. I'd rather have a better chance at 3 points than the chance to see beckham.

the seattle then chivas combo is really tempting for a little west coast road trip vacation.

Gixmo
02-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Chicago 2 days before my birthday

Celebration anyone?

As for the league doing this to discourage us from travelling... Really? Seriously..? Or is that just a new piece to gripe about?
Perhaps it just wasn't a focal point when the schedule was designed - To imply otherwise is ridiculous

daner90
02-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Seriously, if Chicago, NY and possibly Philly are all mid week, thats a major missed opportunity!!!

the look on Milhouse's face defintiely fits the feeling after seeing this sked haha

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:49 PM
we should swap games with NYRB......back to back games.....playin TOR on the weds...and NY on the sat!

Roogsy
02-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Don't worry...TFC will move a game for a "friendly" anyways. :D

Boris
02-03-2010, 02:51 PM
Looking it over it is a pretty crappy schedule.

And it does look like the league is trying to discourage us from travelling...I don't know if it's true, but it sure does look like it.

if anything,
they know we are not going to columbus sooooo...who knows. I might have to dig up some info

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:51 PM
MLS are truley dence when it comes to making a proper shedule..that would benifit certin cities..and make money for the league!


having us in chicago on weds and new york..where we ahve took 300+ fans in each season...

T.Reis
02-03-2010, 02:51 PM
any feel yet if people are going down to Columbus for the opener or if they are boy-cotting that again and heading down to the Rev's game instead?

Shway
02-03-2010, 02:51 PM
The league NEEDS to switch these games for the NY Red Bulls schedule, because San JOse wont have any travelling fans, the league will obviously want Becks and Donovan to play in the new stadium, so why not put San jose on the wednesday, and move Toronto to the saturday, so that they can have travelling fans, and it would be a home and home series






They need to change it to this:



Is there anyways we can talk to the league about this?


:picard:

Shway
02-03-2010, 02:53 PM
we should swap games with NYRB......back to back games.....playin TOR on the weds...and NY on the sat!

+++++++++++++1
this could work aswell
:scarf:

Nuvinho
02-03-2010, 02:54 PM
Premium games (not that anyone besides myself would care):

Home Opener
Final game

3 of the following:
Chicago?
NYRB?
Houston?
Galaxy?

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 02:54 PM
its simple...
08/11 - Wednesdayat New York7:30 p.m.

08/21 -Saturday New York1:00 p.m.

just switch these games?



and we defintly have 500/1000 invade NYRB new stade de shite!

Phil
02-03-2010, 03:00 PM
any feel yet if people are going down to Columbus for the opener or if they are boy-cotting that again and heading down to the Rev's game instead?

We are not boy-cotting anything.

But we are going to concentrate on New England as the first road trip of the year.

Darlofletch
02-03-2010, 03:02 PM
its simple...
08/11 - Wednesdayat New York7:30 p.m.

08/21 -Saturday New York1:00 p.m.

just switch these games?



and we defintly have 500/1000 invade NYRB new stade de shite!

red bull fans got screwed out of a saturday toronto game last year. now you want them to miss out again? I quite like home games with a reasonable travelling support. the suggestion earlier about swapping the @red bull game with san jose's @redbull game makes more sense to me.

T.Reis
02-03-2010, 03:04 PM
We are not boy-cotting anything.

But we are going to concentrate on New England as the first road trip of the year.

My apologies.

Lucky Strike
02-03-2010, 03:05 PM
whens the NCC out?


Tomorrow.

I wonder if most of those games will be played during the World Cup break in MLS. We have no players going and it will keep the team fresh while other MLS teams rust from inactivity.

Phil
02-03-2010, 03:09 PM
My apologies.

No worries.

Just wanted to be clear about it. After 2 years of problems at Columbus it makes sense for us to want to go someplace else.

The poteintial of work disruptions made it a bit easier to look at the New England game too. I hope we see a CBA agreed upon soon.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 03:09 PM
one of your wishes came thorugh PARKY!

headin into the long weekend! :)

07/01 - ThursdayHouston7:00 p.m.


that is going to be a sweet game!!!!

JamboAl
02-03-2010, 03:13 PM
I wonder if most of those games will be played during the World Cup break in MLS. We have no players going and it will keep the team fresh while other MLS teams rust from inactivity.

Last year, the NCC winner had to be decided before a certain date (mid June?) so that they could be entered in the Concacaf Champions League draw. Don't know if that's the case this year.

Lucky Strike
02-03-2010, 03:13 PM
Don't worry...TFC will move a game for a "friendly" anyways. :D

NO FRIENDLIES!!! RRRRRAAHHHH!!!
:D

Smokecell
02-03-2010, 03:14 PM
When do you think partial packs will be finalized?

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 03:19 PM
so... anyone know when the final will be? or is that not announced yet?

Phil
02-03-2010, 03:21 PM
so... anyone know when the final will be? or is that not announced yet?

October 24, 2010
• MLS Regular Season concludes

October 28-30, 2010
• MLS Cup Playoffs open


November 21, 2010
• MLS Cup 2010

GingerNinja
02-03-2010, 03:27 PM
We actually have 2 games during the Ex, August 21&28.
I wonder if they had any influence on the schedule?
Did the Ex miss our revenue last year?

I know I am just re-iterating what everyone else has said, but what were they thinking Chicago and NY being weeknight games??

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 03:28 PM
NO FRIENDLIES!!! RRRRRAAHHHH!!!
:D


Well except for manchester united of course!:D

Roogsy
02-03-2010, 03:28 PM
November 21, 2010
• MLS Cup 2010

If it's in NY then I will probably go even if TFC are not in it.

jenkinsm
02-03-2010, 03:28 PM
I agree with Roogsy, this schedule is terrible.

And you can count on the Montreal game being mid-week too. :facepalm:

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 03:29 PM
October 24, 2010
• MLS Regular Season concludes

October 28-30, 2010
• MLS Cup Playoffs open


November 21, 2010
• MLS Cup 2010


Cant see the final being anywhere but new york this year!

stugautz
02-03-2010, 03:30 PM
Really, only two weekend summer road trip opportunities. And they're two weeks apart. Not liking this at all. Really disliking the home game on Victoria Day weekend. Hate that we couldn't have a game against MTL or Vancouver at home on Canada day.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 03:31 PM
And you can count on the Montreal game being mid-week too. :facepalm:


If they have the match during the 2 week shut down....hopefully they push to have it on a Saturday night in MOntreal...makes more sence

Phil
02-03-2010, 03:31 PM
Cant see the final being anywhere but new york this year!

That is the hot rumor!

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 03:31 PM
November 21, 2010
• MLS Cup 2010



HECK YEAH!!!

that works for me!

Carts
02-03-2010, 03:34 PM
HECK YEAH!!!

that works for me!

This would be a great first year to make our MLS Cup Debut, if it is indeed in NY (which it will be)...

Carts...

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 03:36 PM
This would be a great first year to make our MLS Cup Debut, if it is indeed in NY (which it will be)...

Carts...



amagin....:drinking:

RedWookie
02-03-2010, 03:36 PM
will there be a viewing party someplace for the game against Columbus?

Rudi
02-03-2010, 03:37 PM
If they have the match during the 2 week shut down....hopefully they push to have it on a Saturday night in MOntreal...makes more sence
Montreal pussied away from having a Saturday home game against us last year.

Both teams were available the Saturday prior to the Miracle game, yet Montreal scheduled it for the Thursday. They have to be scared of a complete invasion of Stade du Fromage, I mean we could probably double the Columbus numbers on a weekend.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 03:37 PM
we gota be a monster @ home this season!....its a must!

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-03-2010, 03:38 PM
Montreal pussied away from having a Saturday home game against us last year.

Both teams were available the Saturday prior to the Miracle game, yet Montreal scheduled it for the Thursday. They have to be scared of a complete invasion of Stade du Fromage, I mean we could probably double the Columbus numbers on a weekend.

no shit!.......


what an invasion it would be!

Carts
02-03-2010, 03:38 PM
will there be a viewing party someplace for the game against Columbus?

No we're boycotting b/c its Columbus...

JOKING...:D

Of course, we'll all be here to gather and watch...

Carts...

T.Reis
02-03-2010, 03:39 PM
Montreal pussied away from having a Saturday home game against us last year.

Both teams were available the Saturday prior to the Miracle game, yet Montreal scheduled it for the Thursday. They have to be scared of a complete invasion of Stade du Fromage, I mean we could probably double the Columbus numbers on a weekend.

LMAO Stade du Fromage. Ahhhhh nothing beats a good laugh to waste away the work time. I'm keeping that one in mind. Damn Saputo!

rocker
02-03-2010, 03:49 PM
Toronto fans have seen Becks play at BMO -- at the All-star game. I remember his beautiful passing vividly.. He sent one ball diagonally down to the southeast end and everyone in my section sighed in ecstasy.

So I'm not that concerned that he won't be here this season. I got my taste ;)

GhostKiller
02-03-2010, 03:50 PM
No we're boycotting b/c its Columbus...

JOKING...:D

Of course, we'll all be here to gather and watch...

Carts...

Its not a boycott if you dont call it a boycott, remember? Its a conscious choice to completely ignore its existance as our home opener.

We can all travel as individuals, just don't try to organize, talk, think, mention or anything the likes on the RPB boards. And despite how it looks, no one is trying to stop us from going.

ghost "frustrated" killer.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 03:59 PM
will there be a viewing party someplace for the game against Columbus?

Shoeless joe's.

lintberg
02-03-2010, 04:09 PM
See you there!
Shoeless joe's.

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 04:11 PM
there's going to be more people at joe's that day...... than people in yellow at crew Stadium!


ba-zing-kapow!

JonO
02-03-2010, 04:14 PM
'cause it's being discussed, do we know if any of the other groups are sending peeps to columbus? I'm seriously considering going since NE is a no-go for me...

Parkdale
02-03-2010, 04:20 PM
^ check your PM

Carts
02-03-2010, 04:28 PM
Its not a boycott if you dont call it a boycott, remember? Its a conscious choice to completely ignore its existance as our home opener.

We can all travel as individuals, just don't try to organize, talk, think, mention or anything the likes on the RPB boards. And despite how it looks, no one is trying to stop us from going.

ghost "frustrated" killer.

Jesus man, I was just joking around... We're talking about watching it on TV...

Yikes......

Carts..

GhostKiller
02-03-2010, 04:38 PM
Jesus man, I was just joking around... We're talking about watching it on TV...

Yikes......

Carts..

Sorry dude that wasn't directed at you. More the whole situation

prizby
02-03-2010, 04:44 PM
6 road games in the last 9 dates...ouch


parky ur missing dallas game in july


when do you guys think the allstar game is...i guess TFC vs. ManU in july ain't happening?

nice open june though for the WC...(and Nutrilite?)

billyfly
02-03-2010, 04:51 PM
I miss these as I am in Europe

07/31 - Saturday at Kansas City 8:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com
08/07 -Saturday Chivas USA 4:00 p.m. TF
08/11 - Wednesday at New York 7:30 p.m. DK, MLSnet.com

Detroit_TFC
02-03-2010, 04:51 PM
Hard to see where a friendly would be shoe-horned into this schedule.

Darlofletch
02-03-2010, 04:56 PM
6 road games in the last 9 dates...ouch


parky ur missing dallas game in july


when do you guys think the allstar game is...i guess TFC vs. ManU in july ain't happening?

nice open june though for the WC...(and Nutrilite?)


Hard to see where a friendly would be shoe-horned into this schedule.

Hmm, tfc website now saying dallas home july 24th, whereas previously it was listed as june 9th with that July weekend open.

Did someone fuck up and let slip a secretly pre planned schedule change to be announced later?

Suds
02-03-2010, 05:13 PM
I'm actually surprised I only have 2 or 3 conflicts with all the weddings, stags, family crap, etc., I already have on my calendar.

Not that great of a schedule but it does work out for me personally.

RedWookie
02-03-2010, 05:25 PM
Shoeless joe's.


Big boy beers all around.

canadian_bhoy
02-03-2010, 06:03 PM
Bah!!! I got really excited when I saw the October 16 game @ Columbus. Would have been an unbelievable party if the Buckeyes were playing. Too bad they are in Wisconsin on the 16th though. If the OSU game is at 4pm there will be ZERO people at the TFC v Crew match.

Redpunkfiddle
02-03-2010, 06:09 PM
Bah!!! I got really excited when I saw the October 16 game @ Columbus. Would have been an unbelievable party if the Buckeyes were playing. Too bad they are in Wisconsin on the 16th though. If the OSU game is at 4pm there will be ZERO people at the TFC v Crew match.

That is our home date with Columbus.

canadian_bhoy
02-03-2010, 06:15 PM
That is our home date with Columbus.

Shit...good call

http://franksnbeans.ytmnd.com/

AL-MO
02-03-2010, 07:13 PM
Big boy beers all around.

"Dubrick Specials"

Or just a "Special".

:D

Canada72
02-03-2010, 07:51 PM
Some people with ransom packs have Marlies Sat March 27 4pm vs. Rochester so they have to decide on Go to Marlies or Go to Shoeless Joes hmmm...

jabbronies
02-03-2010, 09:54 PM
What the fuck is up with that 1200pm game against Colorado in July??

It'll be interesting to see how the 4pm games are in regards to the sun. For east siders, it may be right in our eye for most of the game.

Suds
02-03-2010, 09:58 PM
What the fuck is up with that 1200pm game against Colorado in July??


shhh ... that actually means I can make that game (selfish reasons aside, it is a weird start time)

I think we had one of those last year and it ended up being changed to a 3:00 game.

kodiakTFC
02-03-2010, 10:01 PM
Shit. I miss Philly and Seattle because I wont be back from school by then. Ugh.

Bloor West FC
02-04-2010, 02:33 AM
Whats up with the weekday games! F**k!! I can't take days off work errr. This will be the first year not going to Chicago. I guess I will be missing NY as well. :( Going to Boston, Phili, KC, Houston and maybe DC.

twistedchinaman
02-04-2010, 03:27 AM
One, two, three, four
I declare A HOUSTON INVASION!!!!!

(That or a Seattle invasion but we did that last year...)

mlg_acc99
02-04-2010, 09:15 AM
I think this year's sched is a lot better than last year. Last summer we had one game at home over a two month period at the end of the year. And I missed that game because I was in Florida. Definately a lot more balanced.

menefreghista
02-04-2010, 09:16 AM
What the fuck is up with that 1200pm game against Colorado in July??

The World Cup 3rd place match is that same day at 2:30pm EST.

CBC probably wants to lead into that game with a TFC game.

jaahuuu
02-04-2010, 10:33 AM
For the most part I like this schedule. As it stands now, I'm only missing the SJ game in september, I'll be on a cruise ship somewhere between Haiti and Florida. Hopefully the friendlies, Mon/Van home games, and the Montreal away won't be a problem either.

I was hoping the DC away would be in June or early July, I was going to propose to my girlfriend in DC (not at the game) but I'll have to to it elsewhere earlier in the year. I'm still looking forward to going to that match.

I wanted to go to NY, Chicago and Philly, but I don't have enough vacation time for NY or Chi, and my 10-year high school reunion is the day of the game in Philly. I can't miss the reunion, I have to make a few people jealous.

TFC USA
02-04-2010, 11:33 AM
I'm banking on CBC airing 9-10 games. They seem completely scared to travel outside of BMO and it has to be on a Saturday at 4:00 PM.

dag
02-04-2010, 12:07 PM
On TFC's site, the schedule lists the LA home game as being on Saturday, June 26, a correction from yesterday. The MLS site states that this game (and a host of others) is on Friday, June 25.

ForestGlade
02-04-2010, 01:19 PM
april 28 montreal @ toronto

may 5 montreal @ vancouver

may 12 toronto @ montreal

may 19 toronto @ vancouver

may 26 vancouver @ montreal

june 2 vancouver @ toronto

flatpicker
02-04-2010, 01:59 PM
This years schedule (both reg. season and NCC) are so disappointing!

Seems like they got together and plotted to ruin any fun we might have hoped for.

rocker
02-04-2010, 02:11 PM
This years schedule (both reg. season and NCC) are so disappointing!

Seems like they got together and plotted to ruin any fun we might have hoped for.

how is it ruined?

Pinkie
02-04-2010, 02:13 PM
yeah-potentially TFC could lift the V cup at BMO (as we have the last game of the championship at home)

flatpicker
02-04-2010, 02:14 PM
how is it ruined?


I didn't say in all certain terms that the schedule has been ruined... I was sarcastically saying it seemed like some people got together and plotted to ruin our good times... as in making are preferred road trips more difficult.


There are several key dates that could have allowed for hundreds more of us to travel.
Which would have meant better ticket sales, and/or better atmosphere... better tv.
For a sport that is trying to grow on this continent, they really need to do a better job of boosting it's appeal.

MUFC_Niagara
02-04-2010, 02:17 PM
5 games in 20 days in April. The fitness coaches will have their work cut out for them!

rocker
02-04-2010, 02:57 PM
I didn't say in all certain terms that the schedule has been ruined... I was sarcastically saying it seemed like some people got together and plotted to ruin our good times... as in making are preferred road trips more difficult.


There are several key dates that could have allowed for hundreds more of us to travel.
Which would have meant better ticket sales, and/or better atmosphere... better tv.
For a sport that is trying to grow on this continent, they really need to do a better job of boosting it's appeal.

well, regarding the NCC (not the whole schedule), there really isn't anything else they could do. They need to get the NCC decided soon enough to allow CONCACAF to schedule the champions league play-ins.

MLS games are on saturdays every week. So mid-week is the only time for NCC games.

Regarding the rest of the schedule, I'm sure other teams have their own scheduling demands that conflict with TFC's.

Broadview
02-04-2010, 03:33 PM
All the teams in cities sort of near us come to Beemo on the weekend. I wonder if there was any lobbying on the part of other SGs to make that happen. I remember DC and NY fans feeling a little shafted over midweek visits to Toronto in the past.

I can't help but feel victimized by our coolness :cool:

GingerNinja
02-04-2010, 03:53 PM
5 games in 20 days in April. The fitness coaches will have their work cut out for them!

Followed by 7 games in May including 3 flights to the west coast.
Atleast after the game in LA they can just fly up the coast to play in Vancouver.

Why not schedule TFC at LA and San Jose on consecutive weekends. Instead of forcing them come home in between.

rocker
02-04-2010, 04:19 PM
Anybody notice Philly has 8 of its first 10 games on the road??? wow. I know their stadium doesn't open until June 27 but man, that's tough. They should have scheduled a few more games at Lincoln financial. That's a brutal start.

Keystone FC
02-04-2010, 04:27 PM
I hope to be making alot of games early in the season and the Wed @ New York is PERFECT with my work schedule not to mention ALL of the NCC matches. It looks like I'll be racking up the flyer miles (I want to go to NY, Van, Philly, and Mon this season). It looks to be a pretty good sched...if the players and MLS can agree on a CBA.

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
02-04-2010, 04:42 PM
I dont understand why we continue to be the only team in the LEAGUE that continue to have day games!~....

90% of games in MLS are played at night!

Why not TFC>>>???

MLSINTORONTO?

GBV
02-04-2010, 04:57 PM
I dont understand why we continue to be the only team in the LEAGUE that continue to have day games!~....

90% of games in MLS are played at night!

Why not TFC>>>???

MLSINTORONTO?

I've always wondered the same.
Too rowdy?
Night games are tops.

Philly seems to have a lot of afternooners, too.

A Stick
02-04-2010, 05:10 PM
I've always wondered the same.
Too rowdy?
Night games are tops.

Philly seems to have a lot of afternooners, too.

Hey GBV;

Management have seen our afternoon lotion sessions on game days and made a safety call! :drinking:

The Masked Reformist!

menefreghista
02-04-2010, 05:10 PM
I dont understand why we continue to be the only team in the LEAGUE that continue to have day games!~....

90% of games in MLS are played at night!

Why not TFC>>>???

MLSINTORONTO?

Its because of CBC

GBV
02-04-2010, 08:03 PM
^ figured as much ... but should it be?
my jury is still out on that one.

mmmmm lotions.

rocker
02-04-2010, 08:04 PM
gotta get that TV audience up... in-stadium attendance is fine. so TV dictates what they think is the best time.

GBV
02-04-2010, 08:25 PM
^ i understand the logic.
don't think a beautiful summer day at 4 p.m. sees many people dying to be in front of their television sets.
not that being on another channel and competing with hockey -- which runs later and later every year -- at night
would do them any favours either.
night would be better for my .02.
looks better on tv, too.

rocker
02-04-2010, 11:11 PM
^ i understand the logic.
don't think a beautiful summer day at 4 p.m. sees many people dying to be in front of their television sets.
not that being on another channel and competing with hockey -- which runs later and later every year -- at night
would do them any favours either.
night would be better for my .02.
looks better on tv, too.

they got non sports shows at night that'll attract more people for advertisers than TFC games.

4pm is perhaps a slot where they don't get as many viewers for other shows as they'd get for TFC, but TFC is not good enough for prime time.

GBV
02-05-2010, 05:39 AM
^ i understand.
as mentioned.
i'm speaking more of "wish" than "tv 101."

thanks though. eesh.

rocker
02-05-2010, 10:19 AM
^ i understand.
as mentioned.
i'm speaking more of "wish" than "tv 101."

thanks though. eesh.

eesh?
if it's a wish then say so.
if you want to talk about "competing" with other shows, then it's TV 101.

GBV
02-05-2010, 02:18 PM
sigh.....

Huyton
02-06-2010, 05:53 PM
If the noon game against Colorado leads in to the 3rd place World Cup game...can we stay in the stadium and watch it on the screen?

Nuvinho
02-15-2010, 12:27 AM
did they switch the Dallas game from June 9th to July 24th?

James Oliphant
02-15-2010, 12:39 AM
did they switch the Dallas game from June 9th to July 24th?

In the press release I have in my inbox, the Dallas home game was always on July 24th...nothing on June 9th because of the World Cup starting two days after.

Heart of Stone
02-15-2010, 11:48 PM
The June 26th L.A. game will be screwed royally if the G20 meet at exhibition place.

LittleOzzy
03-03-2010, 09:04 PM
When will the TV schedule be released?

DangerRed
03-06-2010, 03:33 PM
Here's a question - I have a ransom pack and my TFC game tickets haven't been populated in account manager yet. You guys the same (ie, it's too early), or is this worth a call to the account rep?

zamperina
03-18-2010, 10:24 AM
2010 MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER ON CBC BROADCAST SCHEDULE

(Schedule subject to change)


All games available live and on-demand on CBCSports.ca

CBC TELEVISION (All events are live)
Sun. Apr. 25 2 p.m. ET Seattle Sounders FC @ Toronto FC

Sat. May 8 3:30 p.m. ET Chicago Fire @ Toronto FC

Sat. May 22 3:30 p.m. ET New England Revolution @ Toronto FC

Sat. June 5 3:30 p.m. ET Kansas City Wizards @ Toronto FC

Sat. July 10 12 p.m. ET Popsicle Soccer Day in Canada:
Colorado Rapids @ Toronto FC

Sat. July 17 3:30 p.m. ET Toronto FC @ Philadelphia Union

Sat. July 24 4 p.m. ET FC Dallas @ Toronto FC

Sat. Aug. 7 3:30 p.m. ET Chivas USA @ Toronto FC

Sat. Aug. 21 1 p.m. ET New York Red Bulls @ Toronto FC

Sat. Sept. 11 3:30 p.m. ET DC United @ Toronto FC

Sat. Sept. 25 3:30 p.m. ET San Jose Earthquakes @ Toronto FC

Sat. Oct. 2 3:30 p.m. ET Toronto FC @ Seattle Sounders

Sat. Oct. 16 3:30 p.m. ET Columbus Crew @ Toronto FC

bold (All events are live)
Sun. Apr. 25 2 p.m. ET Seattle Sounders FC @ Toronto FC

Yeoman
03-18-2010, 10:25 AM
The June 26th L.A. game will be screwed royally if the G20 meet at exhibition place.

as far as i know, the g20 will not be there. though i'll make sure to get people updated closer to the day of.

menefreghista
03-18-2010, 10:39 AM
....

Gixmo
03-19-2010, 09:35 AM
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=20923 2010 Toronto FC Match Schedule - Google/Outlook/PDA

nascarguy
05-16-2010, 10:15 PM
time change for next game

GAME 4: Wed, May 19 (11 PM/ET)
Vancouver v. Toronto (Sportsnet East & West)
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2010/04/16/nutrilite_canadian_championship/

C.Barrett19
07-11-2010, 10:39 AM
what place is the last one to make playoffs?

nfitz
07-13-2010, 11:30 AM
Looks like if we beat Motagua, then we will be playing Cruz Azul at BMO Field on 8 pm, Tuesday August 17th.

And Arabe Unido on Tuesday August 24th in Panama.

According to CONCACAF (http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/NewsDetail/0,,12856~2087787,00.html).

(I'm discounting the possibility that Cruz Azul will get beaten by San Francisco)

Parkdale
08-06-2010, 12:51 PM
the CONCACAF games have been added to the first post.

Tuesday, August 17
Toronto FC (CAN) vs. Cruz Azul (MEX), 8 p.m.

Tuesday, August 24
Arabe Unido (PAN) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 10 p.m.

Wednesday, September 15
Real Salt Lake (USA) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 10 p.m.

Tuesday, September 21
Cruz Azul (MEX) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 10 p.m.

Tuesday, September 28
Toronto (CAN) vs. Real Salt Lake (USA), 8 p.m.

Tuesday, October 19
Toronto FC (CAN) vs. Arabe Unido (PAN), 8 p.m.


---- I believe this is correct

WestStandGeoff
08-06-2010, 01:31 PM
---- I believe this is correct


You are right in your beliefs (well, at least this one :)).

Full schedule, if anyone is interested, on the concacaf site:

http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/Schedule/0,,12856,00.html

Heart of Stone
08-15-2010, 08:31 PM
Anybody going to the Aug. 24 game in Panama?