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Nuvinho
01-25-2010, 12:41 PM
Since training camp is a week away, we should have one thread with all the trialists we have heard who are coming to camp this year, and update it as training camp progresses:

Mirko Medic (DEF) - newspaper article
Maleagi Ngarizemo (CB) - Living in Toronto?
Kevin Kyle (FWD) - UK newspaper article
Ilia Javorijan (FWD) - newspaper article


Adam Street (GK) - unsure if he is with the team

Dan Gargan (D/M) - appeared in 5 games
Ibrahaim Said (CB)
Alessandro Zamperini (DEF)
Adrian Cann (DEF)
Abdou Jammeh (DEF)- appeared in 1 game
Vincent Kayizzi (MID) - appeared in 5 games
Martin Saric (MID) - appeared in 3 games
Alexei Eremenko (MID) - appeared in 1 game
Junior Ischia (MID) - appeared in 1 game
Ibad Muhamadu (FWD) - appeared in 1 game
Kosta Bajic (FWD)- appeared in 2 game



Ross Smith (CB) - was not in camp, signed elsewhere
Jorge Andrade (CB) - did not show up for his trial
Deris Umanzor (DEF) - Left camp
Paul Dickov (FWD) - returned to the UK
Peter Ijeh (FWD) - signed in Sweden
Hunter Gilstrap (GK) - on trial with Charleston
Milos Kocic (GK) - as per Luke Wileman, left the club


IN CAMP
RUMOURED TO BE ON TRIAL
NO LONGER ON TRIAL
SIGNED

tfcmanu
01-25-2010, 12:56 PM
Maybe these guys on trial:

Kevin Kyle -

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_sport/631521/Toronto-eye-up-Killie-skipper-Kyle-for-a-move-across-Atlantic.html

Ilia Javorijan -

http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Armenian-striker-Ilia-Javorijan-to-undergo-trial-with-Toronto-FC/4805/

Shaughno
01-25-2010, 12:59 PM
Oh god... don't tell Flatpicker about that Kevin Kyle one... LOL

Nuvinho
01-25-2010, 12:59 PM
^ Thanks!!

We can now see if any of these trialists make it, and how many Mo actually brings in.

Nuvinho
01-25-2010, 01:00 PM
anyword if Julian Edwards is getting a look at by TFC?

flatpicker
01-25-2010, 01:10 PM
Oh god... don't tell Flatpicker about that Kevin Kyle one... LOL


Hahaha... wouldn't that be perfect!
I could have a jersey with my first name on the back!

Wait... that sounds cheesy.

I'M DOING IT!
:D (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_sport/631521/Toronto-eye-up-Killie-skipper-Kyle-for-a-move-across-Atlantic.html)

I could even bust out my old Coventry jersey!
Oh the possibilities!

TFCRegina
01-25-2010, 01:20 PM
Ilia sounds like Gerba 2.0 Heavy and Slow.

Ossington Mental Youth
01-25-2010, 01:28 PM
are we certain about kevin kyle?

Shaughno
01-25-2010, 01:37 PM
The article is from May '09...

By Graeme Bryce, 05/12/2009
KEVIN KYLE could be set for a move across the Atlantic to the MLS as Mo Johnston's Toronto FC close in on the Kilmarnock skipper.

JonO
01-25-2010, 01:41 PM
^^ Europe is usually day/month/year, no?

Edit: Yup - Just looked at another article on their main site and it was dated "By Keith Gladdis, 24/01/2010"

boban
01-25-2010, 01:49 PM
^^ Europe is usually day/month/year, no?
So is Canada.

Shaughno
01-25-2010, 01:52 PM
Fair enough, then it's from December... dick! LOL

JonO
01-25-2010, 01:56 PM
So is Canada.
But the article is from Europe ;)

I find Canada to be schizophrenic, regardless of the official position....

JonO
01-25-2010, 01:58 PM
Fair enough, then it's from December... dick! LOL
It wouldn't be the first time an old article has been cited as "news", so I just wanted to make sure...

STB
01-25-2010, 02:06 PM
The article is from May '09...

By Graeme Bryce, 05/12/2009
KEVIN KYLE could be set for a move across the Atlantic to the MLS as Mo Johnston's Toronto FC close in on the Kilmarnock skipper.


Doubt it very much, Big Kevin is doing wonders at Kilmarnock and doubt he would leave. Although their is allot of back room strife, thats the only way i see him leaving...

trane
01-25-2010, 03:08 PM
Ilia sounds like Gerba 2.0 Heavy and Slow.

No, he has one quality that Gerba does not have, he is also short. So he is heavy, slow and short. PERFECT.

Detroit_TFC
01-25-2010, 09:28 PM
I second Nuvinho's OP. Mods, can we sticky this thread and have just one "On Trial" super thread?

Oldtimer
01-25-2010, 09:55 PM
I second Nuvinho's OP. Mods, can we sticky this thread and have just one "On Trial" super thread?
Stickied.

UltraSuperMegaMo
01-26-2010, 10:22 PM
TFC won't sign Binstock

Canadian goalkeeper Nils Binstock had his trial with Toronto FC, but won't be sticking with the club.

The Burlington, Ont. keeper was invited to a preseason goalkeeping combine held at Lamport Stadium.

"I felt I played well but Toronto FC decided to go in a different direction," said Binstock, who remains thankful that the club asked him to come out.

Binstock had an outstanding year for Iona College, posting a stellar 0.66 GAA. But, with Iona being such a small school, he wasn't asked to the MLS Combine and knew he wasn't going to go in the Superdraft.

The former Toronto Lynx keeper will now weigh his options.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/othersports/2010/01/26/12622016.html

One trialist already passed on by the team.

UltraSuperMegaMo
01-26-2010, 10:39 PM
anyword if Julian Edwards is getting a look at by TFC?

The former Canaries striker who's now in England's lower leagues? Where did you hear this from?

reggie
01-26-2010, 10:48 PM
i think its a canadian kid who is going to a us college and was not drafted.

UltraSuperMegaMo
01-26-2010, 10:54 PM
i think its a canadian kid who is going to a us college and was not drafted.

That makes much more sense - Julien Edwards not Julian Edwards.

spark
01-27-2010, 01:12 PM
I am actually trying to rack my brain as to whether or not TFC has ever had a trialist work out?

jloome has a good column (http://www.rednationonline.ca/TFCs_Defensive_Trials_jan_27_10_column.shtml) asking whether or not we should be bringing in random players from abroad or established ones from 'within' where there is probably less risk in terms of talent and contract negotiations.

I'm going through a bunch of names (Brittain, Kiki, there was an Ecuadorian last year no? ... the Gambians were signed or trialed?) and not sure if we've had any trialist walk into the line-up. I think I had already pictured our XI with Andrade and Said, but now I'm wondering if that might be too optimistic.

Hitcho
01-27-2010, 01:15 PM
Jezza will tell you that we haven't. He's probably right, although he does screw up now and again! :D:D:D

Waiting for the mods to merge this into the superthread...

Shaughno
01-27-2010, 01:16 PM
I do believe Robert 'trialled' with us before signing... not that it's the best example LOL

Nuvinho
01-27-2010, 01:19 PM
Pacheco remember him, played a half game of preseason and Carver sent him packing.

spark
01-27-2010, 01:23 PM
Apologies for not asking in an existing thread - thought it was specific!

Hitcho
01-27-2010, 01:27 PM
^ oh i'd agree with you but "superthreads" (once so lablled) have a tendency to suck everything else itno them like a vortex. the hadron collider has nothing on a good superthread on these boards...

deschamp86
01-27-2010, 01:46 PM
I am fairly confident that the Gambians trialled with us last year.

Shaughno
01-27-2010, 01:47 PM
I do believe you're right on that one as well actually.

oxygenatedbrain
01-27-2010, 04:01 PM
Sanyang was in Florida for preseason along with another young Gambian, Ebrim Bojang. They had trained with Galaxy the previous summer. Gomez wasn't seen in person.

Shaughno
01-27-2010, 04:02 PM
So one of the two anyways. Close enough.

Oldtimer
01-27-2010, 08:48 PM
merged threads.

romburgundy
02-01-2010, 12:34 PM
any news on Said?

Ossington Mental Youth
02-02-2010, 04:00 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2010/02/02/12711061-qmi.html
namibian trialist?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maleagi_Ngarizemo

jloome
02-02-2010, 07:45 PM
Can't' think "I'll reserve my comments" on him is much of an endorsement. In fact...eek, if anything.

jloome
02-02-2010, 07:53 PM
Did some checking and he was at Cape Town for only a year and a half, as a backup. Before that, he played most of his career in the Namibian domestic league, which is of exceedingly low quality.

Maybe he thinks he has something to prove after flaming out in South Africa, in a bigger league.

I'd also note that there are stories on this guy playing for the Namibian national team from, like, seven years ago. I wonder if he's older than actually advertised.

tfcmanu
02-03-2010, 09:46 AM
"At the same time, free agent Namibia defender Maleagi Ngarizemo is on trial with Toronto FC.."

http://www.soccer365.com/us_news/story_3210134021.php

Ossington Mental Youth
02-03-2010, 10:09 AM
Can't' think "I'll reserve my comments" on him is much of an endorsement. In fact...eek, if anything.

thought the samething
cant hurt to have him try out

Lucky Strike
02-03-2010, 10:27 AM
Interesting place for a trialist to come from - it's certainly unexpected. The more trialists the better though in pre-season. It can't hurt to have a look and I'm really glad the club is looking at Africa - it really is the way to go these days to find value.

ag futbol
02-03-2010, 06:13 PM
Add Canadian U-20 keeper and WH Academy product Adam Street to the list:

http://twitter.com/KristianJack/status/8603965296

ccopela
02-03-2010, 06:16 PM
Young Canadian Keeper

http://torontofc.neulion.com/tfc/console.jsp
Stefan Frei mentions 'Adam'

"In case any1 is wondering who Stefan Frei is talking about as the 3rd goalie 'Adam' in TFC camp it is Canadian youngster Adam Street."

http://twitter.com/KristianJack/status/8603965296
Kristian Jack confirms it's Adam Street he's Talking about.

Could be an interesting prospect and could eventually spell the end for Edwards.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-03-2010, 06:20 PM
or we will have 3 keepers, who is he?

ccopela
02-03-2010, 06:21 PM
u-23 player, I believe he's 18, was with West Ham Academy or Reserves. He played in a u-23 friendly in Florida last month against Honduras. He's from Brampton.

VPjr
02-03-2010, 06:25 PM
Street is a nice keeper. Lots of potential. He and Robert Stillo (at Genoa in Serie A) are Canada's top 2 U20 GK propects.

I'm quite surprised to see him trialing with TFC. I'd always heard he was quite highly regarded at West Ham.

Very interesting turn of events.

Why would Adam come to Toronto to be 3rd keeper (in a league without a reserve league)? He gets to play games in England...He wouldn't get that same opportunity here, unless TFC plans to loan out players from the 1st team to its Academy squad in CSL (which would be a very good thing but I haven't heard anything like that).

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-03-2010, 06:29 PM
Street is a nice keeper. Lots of potential. He and Robert Stillo (at Genoa in Serie A) are Canada's top 2 U20 GK propects.

I'm quite surprised to see him trialing with TFC. I'd always heard he was quite highly regarded at West Ham.

Very interesting turn of events.

Why would Adam come to Toronto to be 3rd keeper (in a league without a reserve league)? He gets to play games in England...He wouldn't get that same opportunity here, unless TFC plans to loan out players from the 1st team to its Academy squad in CSL (which would be a very good thing but I haven't heard anything like that).

I'd like to see that too. There was some talk of a new NCAA rule which would allow amateurs to play along side pros going into effect in August, so maybe that's the plan. I agree on the surface this seems a little strange.

ag futbol
02-03-2010, 06:40 PM
Is he still with WH at this point? Maybe we're talking loan deal. Extreme scenario would be loan deal plus trading Frei.

Unfortunately for the three guys at camp, i have a hard time believing we'd carry three keepers. It would be hard for him to challenge Frei but I don't think it's a stretch to say he could bump Edwards. '

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA1TNzrkyTg

ccopela
02-03-2010, 06:58 PM
Why would Adam come to Toronto to be 3rd keeper (in a league without a reserve league)? He gets to play games in England...He wouldn't get that same opportunity here, unless TFC plans to loan out players from the 1st team to its Academy squad in CSL (which would be a very good thing but I haven't heard anything like that).

There could be a number of reasons for him wanting to trial with TFC, maybe he's home sick, or maybe he's anxious to sign a pro contract who knows.

DurhamAthletic1
02-03-2010, 09:32 PM
Im a west ham fan and he is top goalie in the reserve team, young lad with loads of promise.

Keegan
02-03-2010, 10:15 PM
No way TFC passes up signing this kid! West Ham still owns him though so Im guessing there would have to be a transfer fee... unless its a loan.

Boat loads of potential, England even wanted him and he suited up for their u16s in a friendly but came back to Canada for u17s. Btw he played for Canada for TWO u17 cycles... he was starting in U17 WCQs at 14. Anyways him along with Stillio at Genoa look to be Canada's two future GKs.

At only 18 his potential is a lot higher than Freis but you know how that goes.

Keegan
02-03-2010, 10:18 PM
Also good to see two young Canadian keepers on trial.... Edwards should be gone no use in wasting an international spot on a 25 year old American keeper, who lets be honest here has no real future at TFC

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-03-2010, 11:07 PM
Trialists are my favourite part of the preseason. It's a lot of fun surfing the net trying to find out some details on them. Still surprised by this Adam Street news, seems it would be better professionally for him to be a reserve keeper with West Ham than TFC.

rocker
02-04-2010, 12:53 AM
Also good to see two young Canadian keepers on trial.... Edwards should be gone no use in wasting an international spot on a 25 year old American keeper, who lets be honest here has no real future at TFC

Edwards has value. And at 25 he's just a baby as a keeper.
I think he's a good guy to have around if Frei leaves.

TFC The Hague
02-04-2010, 11:22 AM
Add to the list: Ibad Muhamadu (Dutch winger of FC Dordrecht).

Source: http://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/site/nieuws/124822/Dordrecht_aanvaller_Muhamadu_kan_naar_Toronto.html

wiki (Dutch) http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibad_Muhamadu

short translation of the article: TFC invited Muhamadu for a trial and is ready to pay a transfer sum after a succesfull trial. Dordrechts TD is ready to let him go for a week (starting feb. 16 so he can play a league match on feb. 15), but the coach doesn't want him to go at all...

What to say about the guy? He's a decent winger for a Dutch second divison club, coming from the FC Twente youth system (which is a very good youth system btw). I doubt he's good enough to be a regular MLS player, but he's worth the try at your side of the pond...

Greetings from Holland.

Shaughno
02-04-2010, 11:33 AM
The English version... LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibad_Muhamadu

Nuvinho
02-04-2010, 03:22 PM
I will try to update the 1st post as much as possible.

I will even colour code the players...if they are in camp (blue), left camp/failed (red), and signed (green)....hahaha!!!

Hopefully we'll see more blues and greens than reds

ag futbol
02-04-2010, 03:25 PM
I understand we have a lot of trialists, but mashing this thing into one thread is kind of pointless. It at least gives us something to discuss in seperate threads without the discussion tripping all over itself.

It's not like the forum is exploding right now with new news.

Oldtimer
02-04-2010, 03:44 PM
I understand we have a lot of trialists, but mashing this thing into one thread is kind of pointless. It at least gives us something to discuss in seperate threads without the discussion tripping all over itself.

It's not like the forum is exploding right now with new news.

Point taken, but the problem is that there are so many trialists/rumoured trialists that having a separate thread on each one would be impossible to manage. Besides, each thread would have like 4 posts. So we'd end up by the end of pre-season with 20 threads with 2-4 posts, plus 20 more threads because a particular trialist's thread moved from page 1, so someone starts another thread on the same trialist.

FWIW, the U-Sector are doing the same thing on their board (having one superthread that is stickied). http://z15.invisionfree.com/U_Sector/index.php?showtopic=12504

tfcmanu
02-05-2010, 01:38 PM
Add to the list: Ibad Muhamadu (Dutch winger of FC Dordrecht).

Source: http://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/site/nieuws/124822/Dordrecht_aanvaller_Muhamadu_kan_naar_Toronto.html

wiki (Dutch) http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibad_Muhamadu

short translation of the article: TFC invited Muhamadu for a trial and is ready to pay a transfer sum after a succesfull trial. Dordrechts TD is ready to let him go for a week (starting feb. 16 so he can play a league match on feb. 15), but the coach doesn't want him to go at all...

What to say about the guy? He's a decent winger for a Dutch second divison club, coming from the FC Twente youth system (which is a very good youth system btw). I doubt he's good enough to be a regular MLS player, but he's worth the try at your side of the pond...

Greetings from Holland.

The Soccer365 Grapevine

Dutch station RTV Rijnmond reports that Toronto FC are after FC Dordrecht striker Ibad Muhamadu..

http://www.soccer365.com/english_premiership/story_5210120715.php

reggie
02-05-2010, 04:25 PM
Also good to see two young Canadian keepers on trial.... Edwards should be gone no use in wasting an international spot on a 25 year old American keeper, who lets be honest here has no real future at TFC
who is the other canadian keeper at camp?

Fushida
02-05-2010, 07:46 PM
who is the other canadian keeper at camp?

Adam Street

reggie
02-05-2010, 08:06 PM
thx...but keegan mentioned there are 2 young canadian keepers in camp,who is the other guy in camp other then street?

ag futbol
02-06-2010, 01:18 PM
It's the guy from Thunder Bay isn't it ?

T_Mizz
02-06-2010, 04:58 PM
I will try to update the 1st post as much as possible.

I will even colour code the players...if they are in camp (blue), left camp/failed (red), and signed (green)....hahaha!!!

Hopefully we'll see more blues and greens than reds
Nils Bnstock in red? I want to see this colur code in action:D

JonO
02-06-2010, 05:39 PM
I wish I knew what some of these guys look like - saw them training at Lamport today and there were a few faces I didn't recognize...

J .
02-07-2010, 02:19 PM
Getting Street in would be an interesting idea and I can see why both parties would be interested. I think he sees a potential to get playing pro and get himself in as the Canadian keeper. TFC needs the international slot and could trade Frei if they are confident in Edwards (I also think Frei holds more value), or trade Edwards.

GuelphStorm2007
02-10-2010, 11:46 AM
I am sort of pulling for Adam Street for the Backup role, Any word on how the Egyptian defender is doing.

polak9pete
02-11-2010, 05:10 PM
I guess you can add Dan Gargan, Vincent Kayizzi and Hunter Gilstrap to the list

polak9pete
02-11-2010, 08:11 PM
Kayizzi has 5 goals in 17 games this season for his team in Serbia.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-12-2010, 09:12 AM
Stepanovic played for the same team as kayizzi, looks like Preki has a connection there

JonO
02-12-2010, 09:18 AM
From http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/hunter-gilstrap-the-kenny-powers-of-soccer.html

Hunter Gilstrap (not pictured) sure knows how to make an exit. Because when he leaves a football club he does so by showing the fans his middle finger. From what I can tell, he’s basically the Kenny Powers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKUhXkP7tY) (NSFW) of soccer.

Gilstrap was playing for South African Premier Soccer League outfit Maritzburg United. Emphasis on the was. Because Gilstrap was apparently dreadful between the sticks in Maritzburg’s 5-2 defeat to Lamontville Golden Arrows on February 12th 2009, dreadful enough for the club to hold a hearing into his performance and charge him with not putting in enough effort.

Worse – so much worse – Gilstrap finished the game by giving Maritzburg fans the middle finger and then disappearing.


Maritzburg set up a disciplinary meeting for Gilstrap to discuss his poor performance and hand gestures, but the keeper was A.W.O.L.
He finally contacted the club (http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global[_id]=20498) last week. From back home in America:

“I received an e-mail from Hunter, who said he was back in America,” United chairman Farouk Kadodia said at the end of last week.
“He indicated that he just could not stay for the hearing, and needed to get back to his home country.”
Gilstrap, who had an open ticket to return to the U.S. given to him by United, still has a year-and-a-half left on his contract with the PMB team.
“Hunter said [in his e-mail] that he was not aware that he needs an international transfer clearance to join another team, and asked if we could supply it,” Kadodia said. “We have referred the matter to Safa and said if any club wants to sign Gilstrap on then we will be willing to negotiate a fee.”
Let the bidding war commence?

Detroit_TFC
02-12-2010, 09:44 AM
Oy.

:facepalm:

Hitcho
02-12-2010, 09:45 AM
^^ Can we submit a bid on behalf of the Shite Bulls? :D

I_AM_CANADIAN
02-12-2010, 09:47 AM
From http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/hunter-gilstrap-the-kenny-powers-of-soccer.html

Hunter Gilstrap (not pictured) sure knows how to make an exit. Because when he leaves a football club he does so by showing the fans his middle finger. From what I can tell, he’s basically the Kenny Powers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKUhXkP7tY) (NSFW) of soccer.

Gilstrap was playing for South African Premier Soccer League outfit Maritzburg United. Emphasis on the was. Because Gilstrap was apparently dreadful between the sticks in Maritzburg’s 5-2 defeat to Lamontville Golden Arrows on February 12th 2009, dreadful enough for the club to hold a hearing into his performance and charge him with not putting in enough effort.

Worse – so much worse – Gilstrap finished the game by giving Maritzburg fans the middle finger and then disappearing.


Maritzburg set up a disciplinary meeting for Gilstrap to discuss his poor performance and hand gestures, but the keeper was A.W.O.L.
He finally contacted the club (http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global[_id]=20498) last week. From back home in America:
“I received an e-mail from Hunter, who said he was back in America,” United chairman Farouk Kadodia said at the end of last week.
“He indicated that he just could not stay for the hearing, and needed to get back to his home country.”
Gilstrap, who had an open ticket to return to the U.S. given to him by United, still has a year-and-a-half left on his contract with the PMB team.
“Hunter said [in his e-mail] that he was not aware that he needs an international transfer clearance to join another team, and asked if we could supply it,” Kadodia said. “We have referred the matter to Safa and said if any club wants to sign Gilstrap on then we will be willing to negotiate a fee.”
Let the bidding war commence?
So we're having THIS guy on trial?! :facepalm:

Ossington Mental Youth
02-12-2010, 09:56 AM
comments from readers suggest there is more to teh story then suggested

JonO
02-12-2010, 10:09 AM
Yeah, there always is (and I should have taken the time to post them - to be fair), but it's a weird story nonetheless

Ossington Mental Youth
02-12-2010, 10:19 AM
oh yeah doesnt show him in a good light

backbeat
02-12-2010, 04:27 PM
any news as to whether Ibrahim Said is there yet??

Section 117
02-12-2010, 04:47 PM
On the subject of Andrade for a second, from my understanding there was never really an agreement for him to come in for a trial. There were some conversations but nothing concrete

Detroit_TFC
02-12-2010, 07:17 PM
Chicago and Columbus are bringing in some talent (Chicago-Collins John, Col-Sergio Herrara), I'm getting concerned about what we're bringing in.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-13-2010, 05:39 PM
Looks like Dickovs back for another trial... (according to Luke Wilemans tweet)

Nuvinho
02-13-2010, 05:40 PM
he's back..........

http://twitpic.com/132erj

sully
02-13-2010, 05:51 PM
he's back..........

http://twitpic.com/132erj

Is he 37 or 38 now?

Nuvinho
02-13-2010, 05:52 PM
^37 yrs old.

Nuvinho
02-13-2010, 05:54 PM
footyblog:

http://blogs.thescore.com/footyblog/2010/02/13/paul-dickov-to-trial-with-toronto-fc/


He was on trial last week at Leeds...well on Monday (feb 8th, 2010 as per wiki)

sully
02-13-2010, 05:55 PM
^37 yrs old.

yeah..but my question was also a point. I try to be open minded but what can he really contribute at that age...ah well...nothing to lose with a trial I suppose..

Nuvinho
02-13-2010, 05:59 PM
yeah..but my question was also a point. I try to be open minded but what can he really contribute at that age...ah well...nothing to lose with a trial I suppose..

Hopefully he wants to play in warm California weather like Huckerby did, and we can get a 1st plus allocation for him...hahahaha!!!:D

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-13-2010, 06:37 PM
Potentially, I don't think Dickov to TFC is a horrible move. 37's kind of long in the tooth, in football terms, but it's not like he whole team's full of 30+ players. I wonder why the club's coy about some of the no names they've got coming in, but tweeting about Dickov? He's on TFC TV now too.

J .
02-13-2010, 06:58 PM
I dont want crazy people, Id rather not bring in an aging big name and instead have someone who was responsible with how they played.

arbogast
02-13-2010, 07:53 PM
Potentially, I don't think Dickov to TFC is a horrible move. 37's kind of long in the tooth, in football terms, but it's not like he whole team's full of 30+ players. I wonder why the club's coy about some of the no names they've got coming in, but tweeting about Dickov? He's on TFC TV now too.

I had the very same thought after I stumbled onthe TFC TV interview on his trial.

But, He could just be looking for a couple of weeks in Florida on the house over the winter.

DangerRed
02-13-2010, 07:53 PM
I think they're being reasonable by trialing him and seeing what he's got left in his legs.

While there's definitely concern that the MLS is a retirement home for middle-of-the-road Europeans, I don't see how letting him train with us is a horrible mistake.

Granted, dude could impress at the camp and then pop a major injury before we even kick the regular season ball for the first time...

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-13-2010, 08:32 PM
He was training with Leeds as recently as Friday:


Former Scotland international striker Paul Dickov is still training with Leeds following his release by Leicester but has not yet earned a contract.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/5004310.Leeds_United_sweating_on_fitness_of_Jermai ne_Beckford/

CretanBull
02-13-2010, 08:47 PM
He's still a decent player. Leeds didn't pass on him because he couldn't cut it, he was brought in as cover in case Beckford's injury was going to be long term...Beckford is healthy again so Dickov wasn't offered a contract.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-13-2010, 08:52 PM
I was just surprised how fast the turn around was, training with Leeds Friday, training with TFC Saturday. I'm excited and hoping he plays in the upcoming training match, but getting the sense I'm in the minority.

CretanBull
02-13-2010, 09:22 PM
^I have no idea, but I'd guess that he told Leeds that he had an opportunity to trial with TFC and asked them how serious were about signing him, when they explained the situation he chose the TFC option.

Only guessing on my part, but seems reasonable.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-13-2010, 09:54 PM
yeah im pretty muhc in the mind that dude can fuck off, he came and left last time, hes 37, im not bothered

Damien
02-13-2010, 11:15 PM
yeah im pretty muhc in the mind that dude can fuck off, he came and left last time, hes 37, im not bothered

In his defence, we had a shit fieldturf... his old knees would've aged even faster.

Bluenose13
02-13-2010, 11:45 PM
I was just surprised how fast the turn around was, training with Leeds Friday, training with TFC Saturday. I'm excited and hoping he plays in the upcoming training match, but getting the sense I'm in the minority.I'm with you......Dickov is definetly worth a look even at 35 he could score a shit load of goals in this league.

TFC07
02-13-2010, 11:53 PM
yeah im pretty muhc in the mind that dude can fuck off, he came and left last time, hes 37, im not bothered

Agreed.

Auzzy
02-14-2010, 02:23 AM
Dickov interview on TFC TV needs subtitles... ;)

jloome
02-14-2010, 02:27 AM
I'm with you......Dickov is definetly worth a look even at 35 he could score a shit load of goals in this league.

Dickov has never scored a shit load of goals anywhere, MLS would be no different. (Ok, two good years at leicester seven years ago. Seven. Years. Ago.)

Totals since then:24 goals in over 100 games.

Great work rate, annoying to play against, average striker. 30-freakin-seven. Please. We must be able to do better.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-14-2010, 02:36 AM
Has the potential to be a strong super sub. type player, something TFC has never had. This has the potential to be a decent move, as long as it's not TFC's only gambit in terms of strikers.

Oldtimer
02-14-2010, 09:22 AM
Has the potential to be a strong super sub. type player, something TFC has never had. This has the potential to be a decent move, as long as it's not TFC's only gambit in terms of strikers.

That's the point. He might be good for super-sub depth, if he comes at a reasonable price.

However, we still need a decent, young, MLS-caliber forward.

Bluenose13
02-14-2010, 09:30 AM
Dickov has never scored a shit load of goals anywhere, MLS would be no different. (Ok, two good years at leicester seven years ago. Seven. Years. Ago.)

Totals since then:24 goals in over 100 games.

Great work rate, annoying to play against, average striker. 30-freakin-seven. Please. We must be able to do better.

ossieend wrote:
Dickov's been on loan to us at Derby for a few weeks this season, and I'd like to say to the TFC fan that he's no washup. Dickov is still lively, hard working and dangerous in the box. If he joins TFC you'll have a bargain.

atlantafox wrote:
I now live in the US but I am from Leicester where he has had 2 spells. Even at 37 he is better than local talent - he is a predator and will score goals at this level. You should hope he wants to join you because I believe this level of soccer is not good enough for him. You should be thankful it is not Akinbiyi !

Interesting comments from people that have watched him play recently.

Pigfynn
02-14-2010, 09:51 AM
Who are we to complain about anyone? Who's it going to be to bring the goals guys? Barrett?...White? Maybe someone with experience scoring them isn't such a bad thing eh?

Bars92
02-14-2010, 09:56 AM
I would venture to say if we had signed him last year, as was rumoured, we score a few extra goals and make the playoffs.

koryo
02-14-2010, 10:35 AM
That's the point. He might be good for super-sub depth, if he comes at a reasonable price.

However, we still need a decent, young, MLS-caliber forward.

I'll second that. Nothing much more to add to the Dickov discussion is there?

SanStarko
02-14-2010, 10:47 AM
Dickov has never scored a shit load of goals anywhere, MLS would be no different. (Ok, two good years at leicester seven years ago. Seven. Years. Ago.)

Totals since then:24 goals in over 100 games.

Great work rate, annoying to play against, average striker. 30-freakin-seven. Please. We must be able to do better.

You know, I remember another old striker who had never had that great a goal scoring rate. Had only scored 17 goals in his last 104 games but also had a reputation of having a good work rate and being hard to play against.

He seemed to work out alright for us, I think his name was Danny something.

James17930
02-14-2010, 10:49 AM
I'll second that. Nothing much more to add to the Dickov discussion is there?

Not really.

I find I'm not even that interested in following whom we might be trialling or not.

I just want the season to start, and I'll worry about who's on the roster then.

:scarf:

ag futbol
02-14-2010, 10:58 AM
ossieend wrote:
Dickov's been on loan to us at Derby for a few weeks this season, and I'd like to say to the TFC fan that he's no washup. Dickov is still lively, hard working and dangerous in the box. If he joins TFC you'll have a bargain.

atlantafox wrote:
I now live in the US but I am from Leicester where he has had 2 spells. Even at 37 he is better than local talent - he is a predator and will score goals at this level. You should hope he wants to join you because I believe this level of soccer is not good enough for him. You should be thankful it is not Akinbiyi !

Interesting comments from people that have watched him play recently.
ok fair enough, but at the same time i wonder if they even have a clue what MLS is about. Akinbiyi was shit in MLS too. Ali Gerba had a good strike rate in league one, but can't find the net here.

Compared to the strikers a few other teams have brought in on trial this is significantly less inspiring.

jloome
02-14-2010, 11:59 AM
ok fair enough, but at the same time i wonder if they even have a clue what MLS is about. Akinbiyi was shit in MLS too. Ali Gerba had a good strike rate in league one, but can't find the net here.

Compared to the strikers a few other teams have brought in on trial this is significantly less inspiring.

Chicago's trialing Collins John.

DC has just signed Sergio Herrera.

We're trialling a guy who has never lived up to his potential and is now 37 years old. 37.

And comparing him to Dichio is specious and ridiculous. Danny's a target man with good feet, but he was never expected to be a huge goal scorer. Dickov is a fox-in-the-box who has simply never produced the goods the way he should but keeps getting signed on the talent people see in trials, practices and loan deals at lower levels.

Personally, it seems a stupid waste of time. THere are younger players out there who are just as available, more likely to produce goals, more likely to be with us for a few years.

Dickov's upsides are that he's a known commodity (although if you've watched him flame out for years that's not much of an upside) and that he's a team leader. So maybe they see him as a player-coach or something.

jloome
02-14-2010, 12:01 PM
ossieend wrote:
Dickov's been on loan to us at Derby for a few weeks this season, and I'd like to say to the TFC fan that he's no washup. Dickov is still lively, hard working and dangerous in the box. If he joins TFC you'll have a bargain.

atlantafox wrote:
I now live in the US but I am from Leicester where he has had 2 spells. Even at 37 he is better than local talent - he is a predator and will score goals at this level. You should hope he wants to join you because I believe this level of soccer is not good enough for him. You should be thankful it is not Akinbiyi !

Interesting comments from people that have watched him play recently.

WE need a finisher.

From BBC sport:
"Dickov made 16 appearances for the Rams, scoring 2 goals. "

Real "predator."

reggie
02-14-2010, 12:08 PM
typical mo....1 mth before the season starts and he has no plan yet.wtf was he doing the last 10 mths.

Nuvinho
02-14-2010, 12:52 PM
what position is Ischia Junior?

reggie
02-14-2010, 12:56 PM
maybe a keeper or a d mid...because we don't have enough of them...lol

Super
02-14-2010, 01:24 PM
I must admit, I'm not impressed by the new additions to the team thus far. I guess Mo feels our squad is strong enough as it is. Hope he's right.

ManUtd4ever
02-14-2010, 01:44 PM
I try not to over analyze pre season performances because they tend to be misleading. I recall Vitti tearing it up last year in the pre season and in the regular season he was a colossal disappointment. I won't judge any of the trialists that sign with TFC until their first few performances of the regular season...

dupont
02-14-2010, 01:47 PM
I must admit, I'm not impressed by the new additions to the team thus far. I guess Mo feels our squad is strong enough as it is. Hope he's right.

The one thing I will say is that last years team was definitely good enough to make the playoffs on paper. What killed TFC was not coming together well as a team and for tailing off at the end of matches.
That isn't to say I didn't want lots of new players coming in but this team is good enough to be a top team and they just didn't play like it when it really counted. That was what frustrated me the most about last season.

torontocelt
02-14-2010, 02:08 PM
[quote=jloome;890045

We're trialling a guy who has never lived up to his potential and is now 37 years old. 37.

[/quote]

Don't really get this comment. For a striker he was never great but he was a constant menace to other teams. Dickov was a decent striker in his day and the fact that he played so many games in the premiership is testament to his abilities as a player. For a guy with his abilities he has had a great career playing in a big league for several big clubs. He was no world beater and his international caps speaks volumes about his overall talent as Scotland has not been blessed with great strikers for quite some time but none the less he has still achieved a lot and he has more than fulfilled his potential.

Without a doubt his career is winding down but I am pretty sure Preki is a better judge of player than me so I will leave it to him to judge if he is worth a punt.

jloome
02-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Don't really get this comment. For a striker he was never great but he was a constant menace to other teams. Dickov was a decent striker in his day and the fact that he played so many games in the premiership is testament to his abilities as a player. For a guy with his abilities he has had a great career playing in a big league for several big clubs. He was no world beater and his international caps speaks volumes about his overall talent as Scotland has not been blessed with great strikers for quite some time but none the less he has still achieved a lot and he has more than fulfilled his potential.

Without a doubt his career is winding down but I am pretty sure Preki is a better judge of player than me so I will leave it to him to judge if he is worth a punt.


Ok, your post is so self-contradictory it basically supports my point.

"For a striker he was never great but he was a constant menace to other teams."

His scoring record clearly indicates that all he does is menace. He's a support striker, much better at creating backline problems and setting up other players than scoring.

"He was no world beater and his international caps speaks volumes about his overall talent as Scotland has not been blessed with great strikers for quite some time but none the less he has still achieved a lot and he has more than fulfilled his potential."

So, he didn't set the world on fire, he made the Scottish team on the back of it having weak strikers and he still achieved his potential?

All this without scoring goals? What the hell is he going to offer us at 37, then, exactly?

Oh yeah, leadership, also known at the Nick Garcia Method of Player Recruitment (tm).

It's not that he wasn't a half decent player in his time. It's just that a) he's well past prime and b) we can do much better.

Or, maybe Mo can't. Maybe that's what this is actually demonstrating.

Beach_Red
02-14-2010, 02:30 PM
The one thing I will say is that last years team was definitely good enough to make the playoffs on paper. What killed TFC was not coming together well as a team and for tailing off at the end of matches.
That isn't to say I didn't want lots of new players coming in but this team is good enough to be a top team and they just didn't play like it when it really counted. That was what frustrated me the most about last season.


Didn't TFC finish with the same amount of points as RSL last year? Of course, RSL lost their young guy in Movisiyan. Have they replaced him?

Maybe there are lots of young, qualfied guys out there whose agents will sign them with TFC for multiple-year contracts. Afterall, it is what, the 43rd best league in the world?

TFC07
02-14-2010, 02:50 PM
I must admit, I'm not impressed by the new additions to the team thus far. I guess Mo feels our squad is strong enough as it is. Hope he's right.

Or he's having a hard time of getting players? :o

Our core is okay, not great. But I am kind of worried about DeRo though. Hopefully his issue with money doesn't affect his game on the field.

As for trialists, hard to say how they're doing right now. I guess we got to wait for Disney tournament (which is on TV, right?) to see how they play against MLS teams.

Detroit_TFC
02-14-2010, 03:17 PM
I don't know enough about the current trialists to comment on them (except for Dickov, maybe). What I am concerned about is that a number of other MLS teams are bringing into their camps some interesting talent that appears to be above the average for MLS while we aren't doing the same. I thought with Preki coming in we would see some interesting new faces in camp. If Mo and the scouts think what we have is good enough, they should review last years game tapes, because it isn't.

rocker
02-14-2010, 03:23 PM
What I am concerned about is that a number of other MLS teams are bringing into their camps some interesting talent that appears to be above the average for MLS

what players have other teams brought in that are above the average for MLS?

Nuvinho
02-14-2010, 03:28 PM
We get too caught up in bringing in 'name brand' players. We did this in the past...don't forget about Laurent Robert and Rohan Ricketts....and it didn't work out. Oh yeah.....what about Kiki.

Just because we don't see these players on skysports, doesn't mean they aren't serviceable MLS players.

DigzTFC!
02-14-2010, 03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N8HAsTkG7E

Ishcia Junior - I think its Junior Ischia

Left Winger - not very impressive.

Derko
02-14-2010, 03:57 PM
ON TRIAL!!!

Bobby Moore could trial, rest his soul, and probably run circles around most of the MLS.

It's not a signing for Fucks sake!!

torontocelt
02-14-2010, 03:58 PM
Ok, your post is so self-contradictory it basically supports my point.

"For a striker he was never great but he was a constant menace to other teams."

His scoring record clearly indicates that all he does is menace. He's a support striker, much better at creating backline problems and setting up other players than scoring.

"He was no world beater and his international caps speaks volumes about his overall talent as Scotland has not been blessed with great strikers for quite some time but none the less he has still achieved a lot and he has more than fulfilled his potential."

So, he didn't set the world on fire, he made the Scottish team on the back of it having weak strikers and he still achieved his potential?

All this without scoring goals? What the hell is he going to offer us at 37, then, exactly?

Oh yeah, leadership, also known at the Nick Garcia Method of Player Recruitment (tm).

It's not that he wasn't a half decent player in his time. It's just that a) he's well past prime and b) we can do much better.

Or, maybe Mo can't. Maybe that's what this is actually demonstrating.

Eh no, he is a player who has had a great career and did fulfill his potential. He accomplished a lot for the skills he had, all he really had going for him was his excellent work rate. You are saying he did not fulfill his potential yet he managed a career in the premiership for many years, played for Man City, Arsenal and Scotland, all based on a good work ethic and not much more. How is that not fulfilling his potential exactly? There are better players than Dickov who have not managed to have a career as good as his. How did he not fulfill his potential when his potential was limited to begin with?

Derko
02-14-2010, 03:59 PM
We get too caught up in bringing in 'name brand' players. We did this in the past...don't forget about Laurent Robert and Rohan Ricketts....and it didn't work out. Oh yeah.....what about Kiki.

Just because we don't see these players on skysports, doesn't mean they aren't serviceable MLS players.

Robert might have worked if the rest of the team gave a fuck, TFC needs a kick in the ass by a prick of a coach. Discipline, Discipline, Discipline, that's what wins.

Blizzard
02-14-2010, 04:09 PM
ON TRIAL!!!

Bobby Moore could trial, rest his soul, and probably run circles around most of the MLS.

It's not a signing for Fucks sake!!

+1

Lighten up people. All teams bring in players for a look-see. It doesn't mean they're going to be signed. Relax!!!

Blizzard
02-14-2010, 04:16 PM
Robert might have worked if the rest of the team gave a fuck, TFC needs a kick in the ass by a prick of a coach. Discipline, Discipline, Discipline, that's what wins.

A big +1.

A Priki of a coach perhaps?

jloome
02-14-2010, 04:25 PM
Eh no, he is a player who has had a great career and did fulfill his potential. He accomplished a lot for the skills he had, all he really had going for him was his excellent work rate. You are saying he did not fulfill his potential yet he managed a career in the premiership for many years, played for Man City, Arsenal and Scotland, all based on a good work ethic and not much more. How is that not fulfilling his potential exactly? There are better players than Dickov who have not managed to have a career as good as his. How did he not fulfill his potential when his potential was limited to begin with?

Ok, I get what you're saying. Good point. Still, not sure his having had a good career relative to his skill helps us much.

Nuvinho
02-14-2010, 04:34 PM
Enough of the negativity about certain OLD players....hahahaha!!!

After 2 games, with lack of video or game information....who of the trialists seem to be invited back maybe for another look? Mind you that trialists will always try twice as hard as players with contracts, so we don't really know how good they are, plus they are playing against college kids.

Kayizzi - If he is cheap to get, good bench player?
Gargan - seems to play a few positions
Garcia - oh damn...he isn't a trialist..we have that guy on our roster...sigh!! ;)

jloome
02-14-2010, 04:36 PM
Kayizzi and Gargan both sound like they've done really well . Gabe Gala, too.

Nuvinho
02-14-2010, 04:38 PM
Kayizzi and Gargan both sound like they've done really well . Gabe Gala, too.

Has Gala graduated school yet? If he has, then he could get more playing time.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-14-2010, 05:12 PM
Kayizzi and Gargan both sound like they've done really well . Gabe Gala, too.

yep happy to hear about gabe, wonder if we will hear about more trialists in upcoming weeks

TFCRegina
02-14-2010, 05:39 PM
Gabe Gala did well?

Awesome, I'm a big Gala fan.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-15-2010, 09:47 AM
anyone know anything about Ischia Junior?
i think hes from argentina...

Ossington Mental Youth
02-15-2010, 10:01 AM
Hunter Gilstrap's old team, Maritzberg United, is in the news again
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=742090&sec=global&cc=5901
Looks like they are a mess

denime
02-15-2010, 10:09 AM
anyone know anything about Ischia Junior?
i think hes from argentina...

Yes he is,there is a comment on TFC site:


Ojala pueda quedarse uno de los nuevos jugadores que se estan probando, Junior Ischia. Lo vi jugar en Argentina, en Velez e Independiente y es un buen jugador y le deseo mucha suerte. Gracias, Raulito.


http://www.eleco.com.ar/index.php?action=detalle&modul=noticias&id_noticia=4792

Now if someone know Spanish or have a time for google translate you can find out more about him.



Midfielder?

prizby
02-15-2010, 10:25 AM
Gabe Gala did well?

Awesome, I'm a big Gala fan.

i'd be if he wasn't lazy and hadnt screwed over Laurentian 2 years in a row

Ossington Mental Youth
02-15-2010, 10:29 AM
Yes he is,there is a comment on TFC site:




http://www.eleco.com.ar/index.php?action=detalle&modul=noticias&id_noticia=4792

Now if someone know Spanish or have a time for google translate you can find out more about him.



Midfielder?

i think so, i dont know spanish but i think someone said jugador is an attacking midfield of sorts, looks like TFC has connections with Independiente and Velez now

Ossington Mental Youth
02-15-2010, 10:34 AM
"Draws attention to this note that appeared in the sports daily Ole in Argentina because rarely a player born on Colombian soil, these nationalist sentiments expressed so gripping. For example, Carlos Fernando Navarro Montoya, after wearing the national team in the qualifiers for 1986 World Championships, said he was sorry because he had cut short the ability to slip into the shirt to defend the Argentine arch.

.
Walter Perazzo is another case.


Auncuando never spoke on bad terms in Colombia, when he touched his ability to slip into the national team chose not to engage.And military term selection in Argentina that was in some Odesur Games. Therefore, we highlight the statements in this boy 17 years old, in given case, have been integral to the Selección Colombia Sub 17 has just won the fourth place in the World Championships held in

Finland

He is the son of Carlos Ischia, a joint steering happened in the 80s for Atletico Junior and America, distinguished for his chivalrous and generous athletic physical expression in the field.Now is the coach of Velez Sarsfield, after making his first 'toddle' for some years as an assistant Carlos Bianchi.
Let us note the Diario Deportivo Ole in Argentina:
Junior Ischia, the son of Charles, has two wishes: "Playing in the First of Velez and the selection ... of Colombia." It trains with the team coached by his dad.
"Y. .. My dream is to play in the selection and out champion." The phrase belongs to Diego Armando Maradona, when he was a henpecked husband.And you can hear in almost every film in which he appears as a protagonist.


There is one more sentence.


And since that time dreamed Diego, now it's up to Junior Ischia, the son of Charles.


Of course, although the



If Junior were two desires at once: "My dream is to play in the First of Velez and the selection of Colombia ..." he confesses.


Huh?!




Dream I.




When Junior was born on 19 March 1986, Carlos played in the Junior de Barranquilla-no coincidence that his son bearing that name.


And as the DT now not want to be away from Barbara, his wife, Leticia, and Luciana, her two older daughters, decided that the only male in the family born in Colombia.


So, Junior clung to its roots.


"If I feel like the oddball of the family? Ja ... Not at all. I'm proud to be Colombian.




Although I only lived there two years, is a country that I like, "says Junior, who does not hesitate to acknowledge that when they face Argentina and Colombia, encourages the team who now runs Maturana.




- Would not you like playing with Saviola, Aimar, Riquelme ...?




"Yes, no doubt.




"But you choose the other path.




"Yes, your country is your country.


No returns.


Fijate for Shevchenko, who even said that his selection would never become champion.


So when Milan won the Champions League, for it was like winning the World Cup.


However, he always respected his nationality and play for Ukraine.




The kid has it clear.


Do not think of repentance as happened to Mono (see The desire ...).


That's it for now is not crossed his mind to emigrate to Argentina.


"Here I am comfortable. But do not dismiss the chance to go, or play in Colombia," he says.




Dream II.




Sixth Junior's age and until last week was training with its category (Asad Omar directs).


It is defined as "by left winger.


"But I can play side or hitch", he says.


Day to day fighting for a place in their division and the call of the old to train with the first surprised him.


"Maybe because I had many chances Sixth" he says.


He adds: "Now I try to leave everything not to disappoint my dad. I have more faith that I will get. I am encouraged, advised me ... Everything I do on the pitch is thanks to him."




"I must go step by step, as I said Merlo" he adds.


And no mistakes.


He looks calm.


Junior tries to use this experience to the fullest.


Maybe for a few days or weeks ....


but him and nobody can take away from this dream, that is just beginning."

Apparently hes colombian and a left winger

ag futbol
02-15-2010, 11:47 AM
Yes he is,there is a comment on TFC site:




http://www.eleco.com.ar/index.php?action=detalle&modul=noticias&id_noticia=4792

Now if someone know Spanish or have a time for google translate you can find out more about him.



Midfielder?
This might be the first time in history google translator worked properly:

Hopefully I can keep one of the new players are being tested,
Junior Ischia. I saw him play in Argentina, Independiente and Velez and is a
good player and I wish him luck. Thanks, Raulito.

Shway
02-15-2010, 12:57 PM
Yes he is,there is a comment on TFC site:

http://www.eleco.com.ar/index.php?action=detalle&modul=noticias&id_noticia=4792

Now if someone know Spanish or have a time for google translate you can find out more about him.



Midfielder?

This article has nothing to do with TFC, its mainly talking about where hes going to be playing, and how is father at the time was coach of the Boca Juniors, now he is at Atlas.

However it does state that he is a central midfield player, but has played on the wings.

Guevara replacement?

Shway
02-15-2010, 12:59 PM
His actually name isnt Junior Ischia its Carlos Junior Ischia

rowan
02-15-2010, 03:36 PM
It looks like there's a bit of a disagreement between TFC and the Internets (Wikipedia/Fifa) on the spelling of Vincent's name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Kayizi

Unfortunately FIFA doesn't publish match reports for Ugandan friendly matches, however his name does appear in these World Cup Qualifying matches:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/africa/matches/round=250418/match=300036600/report.html

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/preliminaries/preliminary=7381/matches/match=35842/report.html

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/preliminaries/preliminary=7381/matches/match=35840/report.html

deschamp86
02-15-2010, 09:57 PM
Ross Smith has signed with Portland Timbers
http://www.portlandtimbers.com/newsroom/headlines/index.html?article_id=1532

TFC The Hague
02-17-2010, 04:16 AM
His 'official' name is Carlos Ischia Dusefante (Dusefante is his mother's name o/c), named als Carlos Ischia junior.

hodgkiss
02-17-2010, 09:34 AM
i had a dream last night that i was talking to some friends (we were on the road watching tfc play in preseason) and i was saying how terrible garcia was. he overheard me and came face to face with me and wanted me to explain me thoughts. my friends bolted from the area and i was left "telling him the truth" about his play. he seemed understanding (somewhat upset) but understanding and didn't have too much to say after.

just thought i would share...

gabe gala is solid! if preki really knows what he is doing, gala will be starting on the left wing this year! STARTING!!!

i have been a huge gala supporter since i first saw him in action a few years ago with the u-20 team. he is one of the most technically gifted young players we have in canada - he made some of the argentine players look silly in a friendly a couple of years ago.

remember he was teh only player to score against real madrid too! i have seen him practice and play. he is a hard working, technically sound, good crossing winger (something we lack) and will be a major part of this team - if not this year than next. unless he decides to move up - possibly to europe. he really just needs a chance and some playing time. they better get their wallets ready because when he's doing well, other teams will start knocking on the door.

what's the downside? he's a slight frame - needs to fill in up a bit and i'm not sure his attitude is just right. he is determined and passionate but seems like the kind of player that can put his foot in his mouth too. however, he has stuck with the team for quite a while - but maybe he didn't have any other options... who knows.

heard it here first - gabe gala starting left wing!

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 10:51 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_%C5%A0ari%C4%87

as per luke wilemans post
Martin Saric playing today in the friendly against DCU

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:03 PM
also Kosta Bajic and Alexey Emerenko
Ive asked my bestfriend to see if he can find ish on Bajic in serbian (and in cyrillic for Emerenko whos obviously Ukrainian)

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:04 PM
my buddy cant find anything apparently Bajic is a striker and Emerenko is a mid

Stryker
02-17-2010, 12:08 PM
This Vincent Kayizzi is sounding like a real keeper.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:08 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Eremenko apparently im off by quite a bit, hes a russian born finn

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:09 PM
This Vincent Kayizzi is sounding like a real keeper.

yeah he seems to be part of all the action and is in every game

Stryker
02-17-2010, 12:18 PM
yeah he seems to be part of all the action and is in every game
He certainly does. His history shows him as averaging a goal for every three games too. Sounds like a good sub for DeRo.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:19 PM
He certainly does. His history shows him as averaging a goal for every three games too. Sounds like a good sub for DeRo.

or even great on the wing

Nuvinho
02-17-2010, 12:22 PM
updated.

But how come not many defenders on trial as of yet. Maybe next week.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:23 PM
Apparently Bajic plays for OFK Futog Viskol an amateur team, hes 23 and a serbian striker

Auzzy
02-17-2010, 12:25 PM
No in-game thread today? I heard TFC has a special feature for today's game: their communications dept. will be chiselling updates into stone tablets & sending them up here by chariot.

MG42
02-17-2010, 12:28 PM
No in-game thread today? I heard TFC has a special feature for today's game: their communications dept. will be chiselling updates into stone tables & sending them up here by chariot.


hahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

Auzzy
02-17-2010, 12:31 PM
And we now have an in-game thread, in time for the 82nd minute....

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=20333

Whoop
02-17-2010, 12:31 PM
Eremenko looks promising.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 12:37 PM
Bajic has been sending em to the next judging by the twitters, seems like we might have some decent trialists

Stryker
02-17-2010, 12:40 PM
or even great on the wing
Yeah for sure. He's put in alot of crosses that have resulted in shots that actually require a save by the keeper. Something we didn't see a whole lot of last year.

Detroit_TFC
02-17-2010, 12:49 PM
No in-game thread today? I heard TFC has a special feature for today's game: their communications dept. will be chiselling updates into stone tables & sending them up here by chariot.

ROFL
:scarf:

Corpand
02-17-2010, 12:58 PM
Wow, why would Eremenko trial with TFC I have no idea.

All I can say is that Ive seen him play in multiple internationals and he is good. Really really good. He doesnt have Rohan Ricketts syndrome (started off in a great club but really dropped in class over the years) and is a perfect fit for Toronto. Think Laurent Robert with something still to play for.
He is pretty quick, extremely smart on the field and from what Ive now read on him, very good at set pieces. If he's actually here to trial and maybe sign for TFC, it will be a huge deal.
Mo, please make is so :D

Nuvinho
02-17-2010, 01:01 PM
Paul B seems to be really interested in his play via twitter.

reggie
02-17-2010, 01:12 PM
to paul or luke...can we have some ratings of the players in camp.
is adam street with the club,any news would be nice...

Detroit_TFC
02-17-2010, 01:12 PM
So if Eremenko is starter-quality (and signs, of course), where do we put him?

rocker
02-17-2010, 01:15 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Eremenko

ACSertL
02-17-2010, 01:22 PM
Eremenko looks promising.


Wow, why would Eremenko trial with TFC I have no idea.

All I can say is that Ive seen him play in multiple internationals and he is good. Really really good. He doesnt have Rohan Ricketts syndrome (started off in a great club but really dropped in class over the years) and is a perfect fit for Toronto. Think Laurent Robert with something still to play for.
He is pretty quick, extremely smart on the field and from what Ive now read on him, very good at set pieces. If he's actually here to trial and maybe sign for TFC, it will be a huge deal.
Mo, please make is so :D

In 100% agreement here! Finland were in Germany's WCQ group and I saw him play a few times as well. Would be a great addition to the club but the economics are going to have to work.

Nuvinho
02-17-2010, 01:23 PM
I think we will have an idea on who has impressed TFC coaches, as they move now to Orlando. I am hoping that Kayizzi and Gargan continue their trial. As for the (besides Dickov), their trials are probably just starting.

Stryker
02-17-2010, 01:38 PM
Eremenko looks promising.
Appaarently FC Metalist seem to think so too. They're suposed to have him under contract for another two years and he's part of their starting eleven.

http://www.metallist.kharkov.ua/players/77.html

Stryker
02-17-2010, 01:43 PM
..... maybe he'd rather play at BMO than in front of 40,000 here:

http://www.metallist.kharkov.ua/files/image/all/stad.jpg

http://www.metallist.kharkov.ua/files/gallery/11/2726.jpg

/sarcasm

Oldtimer
02-17-2010, 01:49 PM
..... maybe he'd rather play at BMO than in front of 40,000 here:

http://www.metallist.kharkov.ua/files/image/all/stad.jpg

http://www.metallist.kharkov.ua/files/gallery/11/2726.jpg

/sarcasm

The problem is that stadium is empty! At BMO the house is full! :D

Oldtimer
02-17-2010, 01:51 PM
Sounds like we are finally having a pre-season with good trialists!

Except for Dickov, who is a Mo connection, I suspect that most of these players are through Preki's connections.

Lucky Strike
02-17-2010, 02:22 PM
Just got around to reading the latest news on the three trialists. Descriptions of Eremenko have got me worked up about this guy. That and going from highlights I've seen Kayizzi looks to be promising.

We could finally have some width for the first time ever! On both flanks! At once!

As for the other trialists/roster moves so far, doesn't it seem a bit strange that TFC is plundering the Colorado bench/rejects (Gargan, Peterson and I think there's another)? Preki knows something no one else does? Maybe they were mis-utilized by former coaches. I suppose Preki could just be dead wrong about judging talent but going from his track record, he has a reputation of squeezing the most out of players.

Whoop
02-17-2010, 02:23 PM
Appaarently FC Metalist seem to think so too. They're suposed to have him under contract for another two years and he's part of their starting eleven.

http://www.metallist.kharkov.ua/players/77.html

I agree, it is strange.

But he's only played 3 games for them. Maybe a loan situation?

Oldtimer
02-17-2010, 02:32 PM
As for the other trialists/roster moves so far, doesn't it seem a bit strange that TFC is plundering the Colorado bench/rejects (Gargan, Peterson and I think there's another)? Preki knows something no one else does? Maybe they were mis-utilized by former coaches. I suppose Preki could just be dead wrong about judging talent but going from his track record, he has a reputation of squeezing the most out of players.

Preki's noted for collecting no-name players who collectively work well. In a salary-capped league, that is gold.
Despite Mo still being here, I actually have some hope for this season.

Lucky Strike
02-17-2010, 02:36 PM
Preki's noted for collecting no-name players who collectively work well. In a salary-capped league, that is gold.
Despite Mo still being here, I actually have some hope for this season.

Agreed. In fact last year I felt that we had one of the most talented squad in MLS but underperformed. So Preki's abilities, combined with a very good core of players we have already, hopefully supplemented by these role players Preki is bringing in on trial (to replace dead wood), my hopes are up for a good season.

Oldtimer
02-17-2010, 02:54 PM
The only player I am really missing from last year is Guevara. 5 goals, 6 assists. Hopefully Preki can get someone to replace that (or he can get the others to step up).

Ossington Mental Youth
02-17-2010, 03:40 PM
Agreed. In fact last year I felt that we had one of the most talented squad in MLS but underperformed. So Preki's abilities, combined with a very good core of players we have already, hopefully supplemented by these role players Preki is bringing in on trial (to replace dead wood), my hopes are up for a good season.

thats not to mention the fact that these guys might be good benchers, especially if we look at the promise of the guys currently on trial

Yohan
02-17-2010, 04:12 PM
The only player I am really missing from last year is Guevara. 5 goals, 6 assists. Hopefully Preki can get someone to replace that (or he can get the others to step up).

most of guevara's stats came from first half... i certainly dont miss his inconsistency

hrvat87
02-20-2010, 06:42 PM
Mirko Medic of the serbian white eagles in the CSL has recently jointed TFC in orlando

Broadview
02-20-2010, 06:50 PM
Mirko Medic of the serbian white eagles in the CSL has recently jointed TFC in orlando

CSL defender of the year. Blurb here: http://www.canadiansoccerleague.ca/news_archive.php?news_id=205533

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-20-2010, 11:06 PM
^ This is interesting. I've seen debates here, on the usector and V's board if there are players in the CSL who could play at the MLS level. Looks like we might get our answer.

Looks like Deris Umanzor will be trialing with TFC in Orlando too:

http://www.elgrafico.com/destacado-portada/36-destacadas/787-deris-umanzor-a-prueba-en-el-toronto-de-la-mls.html

Nuvinho
02-20-2010, 11:19 PM
^ This is interesting. I've seen debates here, on the usector and V's board if there are players in the CSL who could play at the MLS level. Looks like we might get our answer.

Looks like Deris Umanzor will be trialing with TFC in Orlando too:

http://www.elgrafico.com/destacado-portada/36-destacadas/787-deris-umanzor-a-prueba-en-el-toronto-de-la-mls.html

Is is a Guevara.......his full name is Deris Ariel Umanzor Guevara

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deris_Umanzor

Whoop
02-20-2010, 11:21 PM
He's from El Salvador.

Whoop
02-21-2010, 12:11 AM
Mirko Medic of the serbian white eagles in the CSL has recently jointed TFC in orlando

He looks tough.

http://home.comcast.net/~rsusnjer/PAS-Photos/Medic-Mirko.jpg

jloome
02-21-2010, 03:23 AM
^ This is interesting. I've seen debates here, on the usector and V's board if there are players in the CSL who could play at the MLS level. Looks like we might get our answer.

Looks like Deris Umanzor will be trialing with TFC in Orlando too:

http://www.elgrafico.com/destacado-portada/36-destacadas/787-deris-umanzor-a-prueba-en-el-toronto-de-la-mls.html

LOL, CSL has a bunch of players who could easily play in MLS. Some of them have already played at a higher level . Medic played pro in Europe before moving here.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-21-2010, 03:31 AM
LOL, CSL has a bunch of players who could easily play in MLS. Some of them have already played at a higher level . Medic played pro in Europe before moving here.

To play devil's advocate, if the CSL has a bunch of players currently capable of playing in the MLS, why aren't they?

Yes, Medic has played in Europe, but with a bunch of second tier and lower teams. I think trialing him and other CSL players is a good idea, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if he makes the team.

jloome
02-21-2010, 03:34 AM
To play devil's advocate, if the CSL has a bunch of players currently capable of playing in the MLS, why aren't they?

Yes, Medic has played in Europe, but with a bunch of second tier and lower teams. I think trialing him and other CSL players is a good idea, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if he makes the team.

BEcause football doesn't work like that. It's not purely based on talent; playing in lower pro leagues always pays pretty poorly, for one thing -- lots of players have left both USL and MLS over the years purely over money or family.

ANd there are also a few who were on their way to making it but were undone by being headcases. It's the same in semi-pro leagues in England.

So, yeah, there are guys who have the talent to play in MLS. But that doesn't mean they could a) afford it b) stick around for long.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-21-2010, 03:44 AM
BEcause football doesn't work like that. It's not purely based on talent; playing in lower pro leagues always pays pretty poorly, for one thing -- lots of players have left both USL and MLS over the years purely over money or family.

ANd there are also a few who were on their way to making it but were undone by being headcases. It's the same in semi-pro leagues in England.

So, yeah, there are guys who have the talent to play in MLS. But that doesn't mean they could a) afford it b) stick around for long.

Yes and No. The level you're playing at is indicative of your talent, especially regarding a player who's been around for a while. Granted people move up and down the ladder.

All and all I agree with what you're saying and like the idea of trialing players with CSL experience, but I think you're being naive if you believe many players in the CSL posses the talent to play in the MLS.

A good example of this, tons of CSL players played for TFC in the defunct reserve league. Not one of them was even offered a development contract and this was when TFC had 10 development roster spots. Several CSL players have trained / trialed with TFC, none of them made the team.

That "said", who else in the CSL do think could play in the MLS? Hurtis? Lammie?

ginkster88
02-21-2010, 04:34 AM
Yes and No. The level you're playing at is indicative of your talent, especially regarding a player who's been around for a while. Granted people move up and down the ladder.

All and all I agree with what you're saying and like the idea of trialing players with CSL experience, but I think you're being naive if you believe many players in the CSL posses the talent to play in the MLS.

A good example of this, tons of CSL players played for TFC in the defunct reserve league. Not one of them was even offered a development contract and this was when TFC had 10 development roster spots. Several CSL players have trained / trialed with TFC, none of them made the team.

That "said", who else in the CSL do think could play in the MLS? Hurtis? Lammie?

jloome is rarely (never?) naive. Sometimes players need to keep a day job but still have a passion for football so they play in the CSL on the side. Perhaps a player like Medic comes to Canada not for the football but for their family. Why take an entry-level contract in MLS at $30 000/yr and have to give up better paying employment year-round if you have to put food on your table? Assuming that Medic is a quality player, why wouldn't he accept a trial with TFC for the chance that he would be offered $60- 75k? If he didn't get that, then it would be back to the CSL for him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were plenty of MLS-calibre players throughout the CSL who just can't afford to be paid $45 000 or less per year. That's just the way she goes right now in NA; perhaps in the next ten years we will see this changed and see better quality throughout the league overall.

ginkster88
02-21-2010, 04:35 AM
So... Said?

jloome
02-21-2010, 12:52 PM
Yes and No. The level you're playing at is indicative of your talent, especially regarding a player who's been around for a while. Granted people move up and down the ladder.

All and all I agree with what you're saying and like the idea of trialing players with CSL experience, but I think you're being naive if you believe many players in the CSL posses the talent to play in the MLS.

A good example of this, tons of CSL players played for TFC in the defunct reserve league. Not one of them was even offered a development contract and this was when TFC had 10 development roster spots. Several CSL players have trained / trialed with TFC, none of them made the team.

That "said", who else in the CSL do think could play in the MLS? Hurtis? Lammie?

Lammie, probably only at the backup level. But he's on my "Div. 2 potential undervalued players list" as appropriate to USL level. Viciknez could've played MLS when younger. I know Bedenikovic didn't make it on his TFC trial but I think he's skilled enough. Ramon Bailey had a shot and didn't make it, but it was a tough MetroStars team he was trying to crack.


Yeah, OK. Point made, there probably aren't many or any MLS stars in there. But there are a lot of journeymen players who could fill backup roles in MLS ably and who could start at a lot of USL-level teams. I don't think most of the time you'll find much difference between USL and the cream of the CSL.

The broader point for me, though, is that when you combine the various semi-pro and pro rosters across Canada, there are still a lot of hungry young guys who could move up, whether through a break overseas or whatever.

Wasn't half of Vaughan last year ex-pro players?

backbeat
02-21-2010, 01:12 PM
still no word on Ibrahim Said - is there yet?? is he coming at all?? anyone in the know??

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-21-2010, 04:45 PM
Not to beat this CSL thing to death, especially in that as I stated above that I think trialing CSL players is a good move for the team, but where were you guys when this was discussed in the past and whole notion of CSL players playing in the MLS was deemed laughable?

I still think the check-mate in the argument is that CSL players who try out for the MLS don't get signed. I'm hoping Medic turns the tide a little. I think Lammie would be a good fit for TFC if he was willing to take a development spot (I know TFC has looked at him a couple of times).

ag futbol
02-21-2010, 11:07 PM
^ well there's plenty of ways to look at that. Contract issues for the low level guys come up quite a bit (and when the deck gets shuffled your always the first guy getting screwed). Tyler Hemming had salary issues, I wouldn't be too shocked if it was the same deal with Gaudet.

Of course most of the guys who try out won't sign. That's going to hold for any level. Most of our academy players will never be pro, most of the trialists we bring to camp will never play for TFC ..etc..

If your a guy like Medic who plays in the CSL, isn't young, probably is making more money in his full-time career right now than he ever will under the current MLS structure, there's very little incentive to go fully pro.

Big Bruva
02-21-2010, 11:13 PM
Lammie, probably only at the backup level. But he's on my "Div. 2 potential undervalued players list" as appropriate to USL level. Viciknez could've played MLS when younger. I know Bedenikovic didn't make it on his TFC trial but I think he's skilled enough. Ramon Bailey had a shot and didn't make it, but it was a tough MetroStars team he was trying to crack.


Yeah, OK. Point made, there probably aren't many or any MLS stars in there. But there are a lot of journeymen players who could fill backup roles in MLS ably and who could start at a lot of USL-level teams. I don't think most of the time you'll find much difference between USL and the cream of the CSL.

The broader point for me, though, is that when you combine the various semi-pro and pro rosters across Canada, there are still a lot of hungry young guys who could move up, whether through a break overseas or whatever.

Wasn't half of Vaughan last year ex-pro players?

Like who?

jazzy
02-21-2010, 11:57 PM
jloome is rarely (never?) naive. Sometimes players need to keep a day job but still have a passion for football so they play in the CSL on the side. Perhaps a player like Medic comes to Canada not for the football but for their family. Why take an entry-level contract in MLS at $30 000/yr and have to give up better paying employment year-round if you have to put food on your table? Assuming that Medic is a quality player, why wouldn't he accept a trial with TFC for the chance that he would be offered $60- 75k? If he didn't get that, then it would be back to the CSL for him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were plenty of MLS-calibre players throughout the CSL who just can't afford to be paid $45 000 or less per year. That's just the way she goes right now in NA; perhaps in the next ten years we will see this changed and see better quality throughout the league overall.


Thats why many of Montreal's and Van's players can be and are paid more than Nana last year. So why play for MLS at the entry level pay.

Detroit_TFC
02-22-2010, 12:13 AM
Dickov's status still unclear. Leeds wants him but can't sign him unless they get an exception since he's already played for two teams this season.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Leeds-take-legal-advice-in-bid-to-land-Paul-Dickov-article329819.html

CretanBull
02-22-2010, 12:54 AM
He looks tough.

http://home.comcast.net/~rsusnjer/PAS-Photos/Medic-Mirko.jpg


That's what a footballer should look like, give me 11 of these please!

CretanBull
02-22-2010, 01:03 AM
Dickov's status still unclear. Leeds wants him but can't sign him unless they get an exception since he's already played for two teams this season.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Leeds-take-legal-advice-in-bid-to-land-Paul-Dickov-article329819.html

The fact that Leeds are making a legal case to try to sign him should put to rest any doubts about whether Dickov still has something to offer or not.

Bars92
02-22-2010, 09:23 AM
Hard as f*%k. Sign both these guys please.

tfcmanu
02-22-2010, 03:50 PM
jloome is rarely (never?) naive. Sometimes players need to keep a day job but still have a passion for football so they play in the CSL on the side. Perhaps a player like Medic comes to Canada not for the football but for their family. Why take an entry-level contract in MLS at $30 000/yr and have to give up better paying employment year-round if you have to put food on your table? Assuming that Medic is a quality player, why wouldn't he accept a trial with TFC for the chance that he would be offered $60- 75k? If he didn't get that, then it would be back to the CSL for him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were plenty of MLS-calibre players throughout the CSL who just can't afford to be paid $45 000 or less per year. That's just the way she goes right now in NA; perhaps in the next ten years we will see this changed and see better quality throughout the league overall.

Very true...Well Said, I know a few players who played for the Portuguese league at Lamport stadium in the 90's who could make the MLS...However cam here to work and make between 60 and 75 grand in construction so playing for the MLS just would'nt work out with the wages the MLS payed out 18,000 to 30,000 and we had no MLS team anyways so once the player made his money in Canada he would return back to Portugal and play divison 2 or 3 soccer.

DOMIN8R
02-22-2010, 10:42 PM
Toronto FC starting 11: Edwards, Gargan, Garcia, Harden, Brennan, Cronin, de Guzman, Saric, Kayizzi, De Rosario, Dickov

Toronto FC second half starting 11: Gilstrap, Gargan. Attakora, Gomez, Nane Joseph, Kayizzi, Emerenko, Robinson, Gala, Dickov, Bajic

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100217&content_id=8085170&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

Nuvinho
02-22-2010, 11:03 PM
Toronto FC starting 11: Edwards, Gargan, Garcia, Harden, Brennan, Cronin, de Guzman, Saric, Kayizzi, De Rosario, Dickov

Toronto FC second half starting 11: Gilstrap, Gargan. Attakora, Gomez, Nane Joseph, Kayizzi, Emerenko, Robinson, Gala, Dickov, Bajic

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100217&content_id=8085170&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

Finnish International who from reports would be a great addition to TFC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Eremenko

Ossington Mental Youth
02-22-2010, 11:03 PM
Alexei Emerenko, its on one of the other pages, Russian born Finnish attacking midfielder/winger

James17930
02-23-2010, 02:49 AM
Finnish International who from reports would be a great addition to TFC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Eremenko

"On 29 July 2009 Eremenko signed a three-year contract with Ukrainian club FC Metalist Kharkiv (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Metalist_Kharkiv), scoring his first goal for the side in debut game against HNK Rijeka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNK_Rijeka)."

So -- how is it that he's on trial with us? We all know that MLS doesn't pay transfer fees . . .

But anyway, here are some videos of him scoring. Looks pretty good:

http://www.mls-rumors.net/6819/2010/02/incoming-metalist-kharkiv-midfielder-alexei-eremenko-to-toronto-fc/

oxygenatedbrain
02-23-2010, 03:11 AM
Eremenko has not exactly established himself at Metalist - used increasingly as a late sub...trans-oceanic loans aren't completely unheard for that club, they've loaned a couple of Argentinians back home (including Acevedo who just got his first cap this month)...can't imagine why Toronto, though...maybe someone here inquiring about another Ukrainian league Argentinian flame-out for loan, and this guy's name came up? Nice player, though, obviously.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-23-2010, 09:57 AM
I dont think we take a loan without the intention of buying in this league (pretty sure its a rule), still looks like he'd be well worth trialing

Shaughno
02-23-2010, 10:04 AM
"He is an attacking player who is able to operate in many roles, and is also known as a set piece specialist."

I like!

Lucky Strike
02-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Supposing that TFC is interested, it's entirely possible that TFC will sign for free. Not on a free transfer since he's obviously not unattached, but rather that Metalist won't ask for a transfer fee simply because they're eager to get rid of them. That or it'll be a nominal fee.

But honestly, with the pedigree the guy has, he can play on the wings and create effectively, he's a set piece specialist so unless he's woefully out of shape or too sexy for his shirt (i.e. obvious bad attitude), sign him up already!

Shaughno
02-23-2010, 10:46 AM
I'm with you Lucky, this guy's peaked my interest and if he's playing well in the trials... SIGN'M UP Preki!

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-23-2010, 11:03 PM
You'd have to be a bit of a "trialist nerd", to find this interesting but in the training segments in the recent Danny Dichio segment of TFC TV, there's lots of unknown faces and uni numbers (I'm assuming a some of them are Harden, Herold, and Peterson). Just speculation, but it looks like they're stretched for uniforms as there's a segment in which two players are practising side by side, one wearing a #27 top the other wearing #27 shorts (maybe one's a 21 it's tough to tell, there's two 32s too).

Mystery numbers: 8, 21(?), 31 or 37, 35 , 25, 20, 23

Redpunkfiddle
02-24-2010, 12:17 AM
Looks like we ll see the lot in action on Thurs night- the Disney game is likely going to be streamed on TFC TV

oxygenatedbrain
02-24-2010, 01:12 AM
31 Kayizzi, 35 Nane Joseph, 23 Peterson, 34 (looks like)Eremenko, 20 Harden (I believe),
There's also a 12, 15, 28, 29...
Ibad Muhamadu is there this week (according to his club).
If I had more, then I'd be a nerd.

Also: no Robinson today.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-24-2010, 03:45 AM
I think #8 is Muhamadu. I think 25 is Eremenko. There's a 20 too, a young looking fellow. Yet to see Herold too.

Nuvinho
02-24-2010, 08:13 AM
There is a #8 training with the strikers...could that be Ibad Muhamadu?

bgnewf
02-24-2010, 09:22 AM
I dont think we take a loan without the intention of buying in this league (pretty sure its a rule), still looks like he'd be well worth trialing


Due respect O M Y, but was not Pablo Vitti not taken on a loan deal???

Lucky Strike
02-24-2010, 09:26 AM
Due respect O M Y, but was not Pablo Vitti not taken on a loan deal???

Indeed he was but obviously wasn't signed or renewed. MLS rules says that there has to be an option to buy but clubs aren't obliged to exercise it.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-24-2010, 10:13 AM
Indeed he was but obviously wasn't signed or renewed. MLS rules says that there has to be an option to buy but clubs aren't obliged to exercise it.

yep thats correct

Stryker
02-24-2010, 10:27 AM
I'd like to know who the the black fellow with his braids tied back wearing 32 is.

jloome
02-24-2010, 11:20 AM
I'd like to know who the the black fellow with his braids tied back wearing 32 is.

Sounds like Zac Herold.

James17930
02-24-2010, 11:24 AM
Question:

Have we yet, ever, signed any trialists that we've trialed?

I can't think of a single one.

Shaughno
02-24-2010, 11:28 AM
Laurent Robert?
Olivier Tebily?
Emmanuel Gomez?
Amadou Sanyang?

jloome
02-24-2010, 12:30 PM
Laurent Robert?
Olivier Tebily?
Emmanuel Gomez?
Amadou Sanyang?

Don't think either Robert or Tebily were trials. Robert signed directly, for sure, (he was on the max) and I believe Bombscare, too.

The two kids trialled at LA six months before signing with us. But you might be right, they may have been in camp a few days before they were signed, so I guess that counts as a trial.

I don't think we've signed anyone on trial yet that wasn't already a lock to get a deal, let's put it that way.

Shaughno
02-24-2010, 01:09 PM
I could be wrong but my memory says that the kids did trial before actually signing because I remember people bitching saying that if they weren't good enough for LA, what makes them good enough for us.

Ossington Mental Youth
02-24-2010, 01:14 PM
i also seem to think they werent signed due to paper issues as opposed to not being good enough

Shaughno
02-24-2010, 01:15 PM
Could be quite right on that one Oss.

Shaughno
02-24-2010, 01:29 PM
After some quick research, I'm not sure we DID trial the Gambians... at least not in a sense where they played in matches against preseason competition.

oxygenatedbrain
02-24-2010, 01:49 PM
February 13, 2009, the two fifty minute games against NYRB: Sanyang's trial debut. The other Gambian kid, with whom Sanyang trialled the previous year at LAG, Ebrima Bojang, also played. You'll have to ask Mo, or someone from First Wave, just how Gomez got signed...but no one has yet.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-24-2010, 02:11 PM
Sounds like Zac Herold.

I don't think so, he looks well over 17.

Shaughno
02-24-2010, 02:13 PM
February 13, 2009, the two fifty minute games against NYRB: Sanyang's trial debut. The other Gambian kid, with whom Sanyang trialled the previous year at LAG, Ebrima Bojang, also played. You'll have to ask Mo, or someone from First Wave, just how Gomez got signed...but no one has yet.


Cheers. So one trialled, while the other did not.

UltraSuperMegaMo
02-24-2010, 02:33 PM
Here's some caps of the mystery players in album form, I couldn't get them to post:

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/album.php?albumid=374

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/album.php?albumid=373

Also, didn't Andy Welsh have a brief trial before signing?

MUFC_Niagara
02-25-2010, 08:22 AM
Whats going on with Dickov? Is he still on trial. Last I heard they were trying to get a deal done.

KRO
02-25-2010, 09:25 AM
From today's Yorkshire Post on Dickov


Leeds continue to close in on a short-term deal to bring Paul Dickov to Elland Road.

The 37-year-old has been training with United for much of the past three weeks and Grayson is keen to add the Scot's experience to the squad for the run-in.

Even if a deal is agreed before the weekend, however, Dickov seems unlikely to start due to Luciano Becchio having continued his return to goalscoring form by netting twice against Oldham.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/football/Mental-strength-boosts-Leeds.6104374.jp

trane
02-25-2010, 11:02 AM
^ How about we go after Luciano Becchio instead? They can have Dickov.

MUFC_Niagara
02-25-2010, 02:09 PM
From today's Yorkshire Post on Dickov



http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/football/Mental-strength-boosts-Leeds.6104374.jp

The last 3 weeks? He was in Toronto 2 weeks ago and played for us in those exhibition games.

http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100213&content_id=8074056&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

Feb.13 they said he was here on trial...hmmmm....I wonder what the story is.

H Bomb
02-25-2010, 02:11 PM
There's definitely a story there...who knows what it is.

Super Cereal
02-25-2010, 05:03 PM
The last 3 weeks? He was in Toronto 2 weeks ago and played for us in those exhibition games.

http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20100213&content_id=8074056&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

Feb.13 they said he was here on trial...hmmmm....I wonder what the story is.
It says much of the last 3 weeks. Which is true.

MUFC_Niagara
02-25-2010, 05:06 PM
It says much of the last 3 weeks. Which is true.

Well, if he's still here that would be 2 weeks, which is makes that article untrue.

oxygenatedbrain
02-25-2010, 05:12 PM
The more you thrash about, the quicker you sink...

MUFC_Niagara
02-25-2010, 05:13 PM
The more you thrash about, the quicker you sink...


uh......ok

Super Cereal
02-25-2010, 05:22 PM
Well, if he's still here that would be 2 weeks, which is makes that article untrue.
He's not still here. Which makes it true.

Nuvinho
02-25-2010, 09:50 PM
please let me know if I have missed anyone on the 1st post of this thread!!

Ossington Mental Youth
02-25-2010, 10:15 PM
abou jemmeh, peter ijeh