Who's in 104 ?

[TOBOR !]

This is the Front Lines people. These are the trenches.

There's no hiding in the bunker with 500 of your friends here. This is me and you, facing down the enemy just a few rows behind us.

They might feel safe knowing they are far from our main forces, but if we marshal our numbers and put them down where they stand - before they can settle - they won't stand a chance - we'll have them running to their buses and crying all the way home to Mommy.

Who's with me ?

[Erkan16]

you are in for a LONG season my friend.

i was in 104 last year... i ended up selling my tickets mid-season and moved elsewhere.

[trane]

I am there. But it is horrible support wise.

[TOBOR !]

Screw that - I've spent the last three seasons in a combination of 224, 225, and 226. I relish the chance at unifying whatever activity there is in 104 and directing it either towards the field, or more specifically toward away support.

All ennui and apathy need to survive is for Red Patch Boys to do nothing.

Think about that, my friend.

[TOBOR !]

Sign up Trane - and bring your rifle.

[Brooker]

if i had to sit in 104, i'd be banned before the first kickoff.

[TOBOR !]

Banned for looking so good ?

[Brooker]

hmm maybe i will join you in 104.

[RedRum]

Good on you Tobor, do not put stock in what the naysayers tell you. Get a few people together and get organized. Anything can happen, everything starts from nothing. And if all else fails, smuggle a few baboons into BMO and unleash them on the visiting support. Nothing, and I mean nothing trumps a baboon.

[trane]

I am all for it. But there are far to few RPB in the section.

[Whoop]

The North West Territories.

[kodiakTFC]

I have 6 games in 104 this season.

[Carts]

The North West Territories.

That's brilliant!

Carts....

[Whoop]

Actually it's not... just realized 104 is in the NE corner.

[trane]

Yes North East. Gobi, me and some others tried to form an 104 RPB group, did not go great. Again I am not against trying it again. It will need work.

[Beach_Red]

Oh no, not a nor'easter!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nor'easter

[trane]

^ I like that.

[GhostKiller]

I'm in 109 but I have a good arm, could huck a few projectiles their ways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjYJTs4I5uY

[TOBOR !]

Names are of little import.

What's to be done here is that the fans who want to sing, chant, and cheer stay in 104 and do so - and build something - rather than sneak away in the night to be part of a larger group where they can feel safe. If things continue in this manner then this No Man's Land will continue to be lost to the indifferent and the away support.

We need to stay and we need to fight (sorry, a bit dramatic).

If there are any red-listers who get the opportunity to pick up something in 104 then you are encouraged to do so and help us take over, and build up this corner of BMO.

And if there are any out there thinking of moving seats closer to the SE corner - they don't need you, we do.

Go North(east) my friends. Go North(east).

[spark]

just remember your support is only needed in the seated position.

[brad]

The issues you will face are not with the fans, it is with security.

The second you stand - even if it's for a minute or two to try and coordinate song with people behind you, the security will be on you. Try it again, you will get kicked out.

[TOBOR !]

No worries - other than moments of high drama there's only sitting allowed in 22x as well. Success is achieved by adapting to variable conditions.

Note to self : introduce myself to security, alert them that I may have a beer and I may sing a song. Encourage a relationship where we can all enjoy what we do.

Your heedings are well heard, but I am not deterred. We shall overcome.

etc.

[sloangraham]

bringing it over to 104. row 19. hello to my new family. let's make this happen.

[TOBOR !]

Row 18. Welcome home.

[grizzle]

I got a partial pack in row 16. Probably see some of you come next season.

[NEWPY]

:flare:Bye Vitti !!!!

[TOBOR !]

I got a partial pack in row 16. Probably see some of you come next season.

I salute you.

[still_purgatory]

Row 3, most north side. You'll see me standing up in front of the Carlsberg VIP section. Enjoy the 104 hecklers.

[TOBOR !]

104 hecklers ? Please explain.

[luisfigo]

i was in 104 last year, and it wasn't as exciting as sitting in the south end...it'd be nice to get something going in there...especially when columbus comes to town

[DavydMT]

I was in s104 r13 most of the last season, will be joining you in s104 next season.

security is a problem, but as soon as you get around 50 ppl up they can't really do anything. we had ok support for few games last year. it's all about taking baby-steps.

[TOBOR !]

I hear you. I'm all about befriending the staff, finding out what the limits are and encouraging co-operation. Once that's accomplished we can turn our efforts toward supporting our team and abusing the away support.

[Yeoman]

you guys could buy a nunavut flag then?

I'll be in 105 closer to 106 though
how often I'll sit in that seat? eh, i'd rather be somewhere else

[TFCtoMUFC]

I want to be in 104, or possibly 113. 104 is the trenches man and I dig that. If anyone is selling 104 tix let me know.

[TOBOR !]

^ that's the spirit ! Join us on the front lines (never mind watching the action from the safety of the bunker through binoculars). Good luck getting tix.

As for 105/106... enlist in the 104th Infantry and see some action !

[TOBOR !]

...by the way, that Nunavut comment went right by me. What did you mean by it ?

[Yeoman]

well you were talking earlier about getting a northern flag right?
well they are the NE of Canada are they not?

[luisfigo]

i'm not sure how it happens, but it'd be nice to get 104 to become a supporter's section...with the south end, the nw corner and the ne corner, it'd be an impressive sight
i'm in 104 for the season, row 16,...

[TOBOR !]

^ welcome - as the season approaches we'll no doubt have to ry ad co-ordinate ourselves. For now let's work on being motivated and coming up with some ideas.

As far as how it happens, I think it starts with everyone not fucking off to the south end whenever they get scowled at. And for those who have seats in 104 now to sit in them. Just imagine how much farther ahead we'd be now if the RPBs that were there in year one were still there, and instead of running for the hills they had put out a call for reinforcements ?

Yeoman : Now I see. :)

[TFCtoMUFC]

^ Tobor, if I have 113 tix for example how easy is it to get in 104 to be with you guys and not get kicked out by security?

[Yeoman]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5434/nunavut.th.gif (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/nunavut.gif/)

plenty of room to get RPB and 104 on there. wouldn't cost much either if you went to a seamstress and asked nicely
get some strings sewn onto the corners as well

[TFCtoMUFC]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5434/nunavut.th.gif (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/nunavut.gif/)

plenty of room to get RPB and 104 on there. wouldn't cost much either if you went to a seamstress and asked nicely
get some strings sewn onto the corners as well

I'm on board with a flag, I will find a way to get tickets in 104.

[TOBOR !]

TFCetc. : no clue, mate. I've never sat there. I spent the first three seasons in 22x (trying to start up the Vingt-Deux, if anyone remembers). This is my first tour with the 104 - and I'm looking forward to it.

Yeoman : I get what you're getting at, but I'm just not feeling it - soz :(

[TFCtoMUFC]

Tobor, first game I probably will be with a set of friends but let me know how the vibe is and I will get it from there.

[Yeoman]

really?
i thought it was great
well i can always have my city of toronto/ RPB flag make it's way down to 104. or the RPB Kandahar banner.

[TFCtoMUFC]

What about a Mississauga flag?

Or if we want to represent a northern forgotten place...Flag of the Region of Siberia

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/r/ru-sibe2.gif

[RedRum]

Tobor, first game I probably will be with a set of friends but let me know how the vibe is and I will get it from there.

Dude... the vibe will be shit. Only way to not make it shit is to get your ass in there and support, secure in the belief that others will follow. Aint nobody gonna hand you fuck all son.

[TFCtoMUFC]

Dude... the vibe will be shit. Only way to not make it shit is to get your ass in there and support, secure in the belief that others will follow. Aint nobody gonna hand you fuck all son.

I meant in terms of seating arrangements. I wanna be in 104, but not to get whined at by some lady for not being in a proper seat.

[RedRum]

Well, you most certainly will get whined at by some old lady for not being in your proper seat. However if enough people ignore said old lady, refuse to sit but instead stand and support for 90, the old lady will probably get fed up and re-locate somewhere else for next year - leaving the spot open for someone like you to move into next year. Like I said - turning 104 into a supporter section is not something that will be a handout from the FO. Seize it or concede it, there is no in-between.

[TOBOR !]

^ what RedRum has said in his last two posts is pretty much how I expect it to be if comments over the last 3 years are anything to go by - but it's time for all of that to end.

[TFCtoMUFC]

^Alright its on now, Tobor what row are you in? I will be joining you. Anyone else who wants to make this a supporters section come on down.

[brad]

Well, you most certainly will get whined at by some old lady for not being in your proper seat. However if enough people ignore said old lady, refuse to sit but instead stand and support for 90, the old lady will probably get fed up and re-locate somewhere else for next year - leaving the spot open for someone like you to move into next year. Like I said - turning 104 into a supporter section is not something that will be a handout from the FO. Seize it or concede it, there is no in-between.

My only advice to you is don't go to washroom at halftime. Ask those that attempted the same thing last year for details.

[TOBOR !]

My only advice to you is don't go to washroom at halftime. Ask those that attempted the same thing last year for details.

ha ha - I imagine that to mean you'll have to show a ticket to gain re-entry ?

TFCetc : I'm in row 18 or 19, I forget which... I posted it somewhere upthread.

[brad]

ha ha - I imagine that to mean you'll have to show a ticket to gain re-entry ?

TFCetc : I'm in row 18 or 19, I forget which... I posted it somewhere upthread.

Nope. I mean security will grab you then and throw you out when you do. They did that a number of times this year. Person stands up in the first half, goes for a beer/piss/slice at half, gets nabbed by security and tossed.

[TOBOR !]

^ even if you have tickets for that section ?

[TFCtoMUFC]

Tossed from game or section?

[spark]

Hey man, listen to brad he knows what's up. I spoke with FO last year telling them they turned what was becoming a good area into shit, and pretty much the deal is you break any rule at BMO security has carte blanche to give you the boot from the stadium. No warning, nothing. You break the rules, you are gone. If you are standing in a section that is not a supporters section, it's against the rules. Like brad mentioned and many people in 104/105/106 experienced, was that if you think you're just gonna tell security to beat it, there will be a bunch of them waiting for you when you leave your seat.

Just a head's up!!

[rocker]

break any rule at BMO security has carte blanche to give you the boot from the stadium. No warning, nothing. You break the rules, you are gone. If you are standing in a section that is not a supporters section, it's against the rules.

sounds sensible to me.

if guys starting standing in my non-supporters section my 65-year old dad (in bad shape) would be pretty pissed.

[DavydMT]

^ standing is a big and maybe final step, you can chant seating down and maybe get few banners on the railings and small flags.

[brad]

Tossed from game or section?

From the game.

[TOBOR !]

Okay - so we chant sitting down... hardly seems that this should become an issue. Does anyone know which row is the start of the away supporters allotment ?

[TFCtoMUFC]

sounds sensible to me.

if guys starting standing in my non-supporters section my 65-year old dad (in bad shape) would be pretty pissed.

My first TFC game I was in 108, the guys in front of me and my dad stood the entire game, this was after security said that it was a non-standing section.

[brad]

Okay - so we chant sitting down... hardly seems that this should become an issue. Does anyone know which row is the start of the away supporters allotment ?

Away supporters are at the very back of 104.

[brad]

My first TFC game I was in 108, the guys in front of me and my dad stood the entire game, this was after security said that it was a non-standing section.

They only started enforcing this a few games into last season.

[TOBOR !]

Away supporters are at the very back of 104.

... Thanks. :|

[spark]

sounds sensible to me.

if guys starting standing in my non-supporters section my 65-year old dad (in bad shape) would be pretty pissed.

Hey I agree - if I recall correctly you are in 125 - a section that from day one was pretty much everyone sitting.

By the end of season two, 104/05 had become mostly standing. Some of us remember the discussions last season and it's not black and white.

And from what Tobor and TFCtoMUFC has shown, it's going into season four and there are still some who don't know these rules. So I don't think it's sensible that if these guys decide to stand up and cheer on the team they should get thrown out on the first strike.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

I'm standing, je ne care pas what security think. Top half of 104 is a standing section on the seating chart, so I'm going to stand.

BTW, I have a partial season's ticket in 104, row 19.

[TOBOR !]

here's the crux of the issue... I get that standing in row 1, when everyone behind you wishes to sit, will be a problem. However, standing in row 19 when everyone from row 20 on back is travelling support and will likely be standing anyway shouldn't be.

I reckon that security will use common sense and allow standing should it originate from the back row on forward, but will clamp down on it if it starts towards the front.

As far as rules are concerned, they aren't going to be any different there than they are anywhere else (other than supporters sections). We just have to be smart and work within them. If the people behind you are standing, and also the people behind them, and security is allowing it, then I'd imagine it's okay to stand.

^ I think I'm in row 19 as well, but it could be 18... my HDD has some bad sectors :(

[TOBOR !]

Something came up and I wasn't able to attend the home opener - not sure what security / standing was like, but for the Montreal game people were standing, sitting, chanting - whatever - and I never saw any of us get told to sit down / shut up. Now, that may solely be because all the attention was being directed to the back of the section (as in let's make sure we don't let anything happen between these groups). They even got an escort to the shitter.

Maybe 104/105 isn't that bad after all ?

[Pyeddo]

In 105. Nothing like hearing "THIS IS MY FIRST GAMMMMEEEE" every week. Awesomeness.

[parma]

There are a few of us in 105 that maybe able to help out...let us know what is happening and we can try to get it going...worth a shot...

[tfcmanu]

Oh no, not a nor'easter!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nor'easter


LONG LIVE THE NOR'EASTER...Chaaaarrrrrggggge!:flare:

[TOBOR !]

I'm just saying there was some noise and a decent atmosphere there on Wednesday. Was it just because there was a travelling presence ? I think over the course of the season we should be able to kill those 104-105 deadzone issues.

[reardon4tfc]

nice to see some energy about the section again. i recall trane's efforts with Gobi back when, and remember the piss poor reception it got.

i'm all for it though. SSH since day one (105) and it would be nic

nor'easters unite!!!!

[ComedyOfErrors]

Hey Tobor....I sat in section 104 last year and did the sit down chant/protest. About row 15 for the game against DC United. My brother and I started and encouraged everybody around us....even a few families joined in. The best action occurred when we responded to the visiting supporters' cheers. For example...DC united has this basic chant with a drum followed by a rest. "DEE CEE United...." We would fill in the blank and everyone followed. Some that I recall: Visitors- "DEE CEE United...." US- "Sucks" or "Baltimore's Bitch" and so on. We got more creative as the game wore on and were joined by enough people that the visiting supporters got rather pissed off. We based our chants on theirs....It was totally worth it! We stood up for short stints and as soon as the security would make a move we would just sit back down, before they even spoke a word.....they never said anything as they would see us sit and back off. Therefore, no official warning ....Besides they were having a laugh too. The DC United group tried to taunt back....but they were such rookies! Good luck in 104 and sorry, I am not there this year (made it to the promised land ....almost....Sec. 111 row 4).
Cheers!:drinking::scarf:

[J .]

Someone will text the rat line and get you kicked out.

Good luck, don't expect much support.