Should we change the TFC Badge(Crest)?

[Hessanfefer]

I know this is probably an insignificant issue, but what does anyone else think about TFCs' badge? I think it's rather bland compared to other MLS teams and a better design could be proposed. The bold capital "T" with the grey ,white bars seems so unimaginative! Granted, it doesn't make for a better team on the pitch, but hey, how 'bout some of you artistes out there give it a go. Unofficially, of coarse.:scarf:

[Cambridge_Red]

Wrong section. Post in the TFC forums

[billyfly]

I think the badge is beautiful.

[Northern Soul]

I like it. Simple, yet classy. When people start getting "creative", you end up with something like the Crew's logo.

[sulfur]

I kinda like it. It's simple and elegant. No big waves, no buildings, and best of all?

No bulls.

[LittleOzzy]

I like it. It's simple and classy.

I also hate when sports teams decide to change their logo. I hope TFC never decides to change it.

[dupont]

I love it. Simple and timeless.

[Roogsy]

I have always like our badge. From the very first day when they released it to the public.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v72/33/41/679561155/n679561155_113613_7426.jpg

[billyfly]

One of the best badges in NA sports.

[Toronto Gunner]

agreed - simple, clean, and to the point.

[Lucky Strike]

agreed - simple, clean, and to the point.

+1. Designs that try too hard end up looking incredibly cheesy and cartoonish that generally don't carry any prestige and are mocked.

[MUFC_Niagara]

I love our badge, there's no need to change it.

[egoodwin]

I know this is probably an insignificant issue, but what does anyone else think about TFCs' badge? I think it's rather bland compared to other MLS teams and a better design could be proposed. The bold capital "T" with the grey ,white bars seems so unimaginative! Granted, it doesn't make for a better team on the pitch, but hey, how 'bout some of you artistes out there give it a go. Unofficially, of coarse.:scarf:
what would you prefer?

[eustacchio]

For a second I thought that there was a new badge and I was about to freak out.

[Stouffville_RPB]

would you rather have this as the badge?

[Eastend]

Love it. No question about it.

[billyfly]

For a second I thought that there was a new badge and I was about to freak out.


That's the only reason this thread is getting so many hits.

[yellowfellow]

Love it. It's our identity. There is no point of frequent changes like the Jays are doing.

[Hustle]

Never EVER fuck with the Crest. It is ours forever

[KrazyKanadian]

It's a great badge, especially since it doesn't have a curly poo in the middle.

[james]

THe bad Crests:

Kansas Wizards (the worst of the worst)
San Jose Earthquakes (a close 2nd worst)
Columbus Crew
New York Red Bull
Houston

The so, so crests:

RSL
New England
Chicago
Dallas
Colorado

The Good Crests:

Seattle
TFC
DC United
LA Galaxy
Chivas
Philly Union (tho it is easy and funny to laugh at, i think the crest is overall pretty good)

[Damien]

Title of thread changed

[eustacchio]

^ thank you, sir.

[Carts]

TFC Crest is PERFECT...

Its simple, yet very classy... It has a royal look to it...

There is nothing I HATE MORE than when teams try to "market" themselves with "fresh, hip, funky" logos...

Just ask NY Islanders fans how bad things can go (ahem CAPTAIN HIGHLINER!) and other teams that have ruined their brand and image by trying to be "hip" or "creative"...

Carts...

[zeelaw]

I like it. Simple, yet classy. When people start getting "creative", you end up with something like the Crew's logo.
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[Parkdale]

blasphemy!

our crest is great. It's classy, timeless, and balanced. I would NEVER change it.

[Roogsy]

One of the crests I miss the most...while never a fan, I always respected the classic nature of it.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/homegrownsportinggoods_1856_3277328

We have something similar. Classic. The trends of time will have little effect on it.

And hopefully TFC will never pull a NY Islanders on us like Carts mentioned, and go with something that is shockingly bad.

[james]

another classic in hockey was Quebec Nordiqes.

New Jersey Devils is also similar, and still one of the best in NHL.


And Minnesota went from a classic North Stars to being called the WILD??? WTF is that??? worst name in NHL!

[drewski]

simple and elegant, like the game itself

[Hessanfefer]

THe bad Crests:

Kansas Wizards (the worst of the worst)
San Jose Earthquakes (a close 2nd worst)
Columbus Crew
New York Red Bull
Houston

The so, so crests:

RSL
New England
Chicago
Dallas
Colorado

The Good Crests:

Seattle
TFC
DC United
LA Galaxy
Chivas
Philly Union (tho it is easy and funny to laugh at, i think the crest is overall pretty good)
Good picks- DC Uniteds' Eagle & Star an obvious patriotic reference, LA Galaxy, again a refrence to the city" galaxy of stars" , Philly Union, the historic reference to the" Don't tread on me" battle flag, Seattle the space Needle etc.. TFCs'...ok it has it's simple style, and I'm not suggesting we put a squirrel dancing through the DVP with a rainbow coloured scarf around its neck but there must be something more emblematic of Toronto or is the big T a phallic thing! lol Joking I'm joking sheesh did I touch a nerve or what!?

[4evared]

Stay away from the badge and no-one will get hurt.

[ArmenJBX]

New England is bad.

It looks like a 5 year old drew it.

[james]

New England is bad.

It looks like a 5 year old drew it.

ya taking a 2nd look at there crest...it is badly drawn up :picard:

[Belfast_Boy]

can you see LFC without the bird or United without the devil?
this is our crest. should never change.

[sulfur]

... or United without the devil?

But the Leeds United crest doesn't have a devil, it's a white rose...

Oh... that United. ;)

[tfcleeds]

But the Leeds United crest doesn't have a devil, it's a white rose...

Oh... that United. ;)

I thought he was talking about Peterborough United...

[Belfast_Boy]

But the Leeds United crest doesn't have a devil, it's a white rose...

Oh... that United. ;)


I thought he was talking about Peterborough United...


sorry guys was making sure that everyone understood what I was saying.

[FluSH]

I know this is probably an insignificant issue, but what does anyone else think about TFCs' badge? I think it's rather bland compared to other MLS teams and a better design could be proposed. The bold capital "T" with the grey ,white bars seems so unimaginative! Granted, it doesn't make for a better team on the pitch, but hey, how 'bout some of you artistes out there give it a go. Unofficially, of coarse.:scarf:

What?! Our crest is perfect... ...

[zooko62000]

It is simple but when you put to many things on it, it just becomes a disgusting mess.

[English Rachel]

I love our crest. Very similar to my Stoke crest, funnily enough :)

[pekduck]

I love our crest. Very similar to my Stoke crest, funnily enough :)

off topic... i met the only other Stoke fan existed in this continent in Seattle...

[English Rachel]

Lol Brooker's one also :)

[Brooker]

Whyyyyyyyy Why Whyyyy Delilah!

[English Rachel]

See :)

[ManUtd4ever]

TFC's crest is definitely the class of the MLS...

[Azerban]

what the goddamn hell is this crap

[CretanBull]

But the Leeds United crest doesn't have a devil, it's a white rose...

Oh... that United. ;)

The other United is some small team that not many people have heard of, but they're goint to get some exposure in the in the next round of the FA Cup when Leeds pay them a visit.

White rose!

[SilverSamurai]

Good picks- DC Uniteds' Eagle & Star an obvious patriotic reference, LA Galaxy, again a refrence to the city" galaxy of stars" , Philly Union, the historic reference to the" Don't tread on me" battle flag, Seattle the space Needle etc.. TFCs'...ok it has it's simple style, and I'm not suggesting we put a squirrel dancing through the DVP with a rainbow coloured scarf around its neck but there must be something more emblematic of Toronto or is the big T a phallic thing! lol Joking I'm joking sheesh did I touch a nerve or what!?

Nah add a deer or raccoon by the Gardner instead. :hump:


Seriously, leave the emblem alone. It's simple and to the point. Next we'll have people saying we should get a mascot...:facepalm:

[Hitcho]

blasphemy!

our crest is great. It's classy, timeless, and balanced. I would NEVER change it.

Agreed, plus it's been ours now since the club was fuonded. Dichio had that crest on his shirt when he scored. It was on all of those seat cushions that flew. It's on all our shirts and other merch.

Change it? It's already partof our DNA - can't be done.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

One of the crests I miss the most...while never a fan, I always respected the classic nature of it.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/homegrownsportinggoods_1856_3277328

We have something similar. Classic. The trends of time will have little effect on it.

And hopefully TFC will never pull a NY Islanders on us like Carts mentioned, and go with something that is shockingly bad.
That's actually one of my faves as well. Was this the Isles logo you were talking about?

http://espn.go.com/i/magazine/new/050113_islanders2.jpg

It's not unheard of for clubs to change their badges though, speaking of Leeds United, they've gone through quite a few of them.

In any case, the TFC badge is great the way it is IMO. I don't want it changed now OR in the future.

[Redcoe15]

WHAT??? BLASPHEME!!! :mad5:

:tfc:There is nothing wrong with the badge! Nothing! Respect the badge!

[Hessanfefer]

WHAT??? BLASPHEME!!! :mad5:

:tfc:There is nothing wrong with the badge! Nothing! Respect the badge!

Blaspheme, blaspheyou haha still think that big black "T" is draaaaabbbbbb!:D

[Mark in Ottawa]

TFC Crest is simple and classic... always a good choice.
I was once told that the best logo's are ones simple enough that most folks could draw one freehand if they had to. Means that the crest can be replicated by kids and burned into peoples consciousness. How many times have you seen the Montreal Canadiens "CH" replicated in some way or other?

[Dirk Diggler]

The badge is the last thing TFC need to change.

[Hessanfefer]

Nah add a deer or raccoon by the Gardner instead. :hump:


Seriously, leave the emblem alone. It's simple and to the point. Next we'll have people saying we should get a mascot...:facepalm:

Mascot?! Great idea how bout a guy dressed in a beig black T

[Hessanfefer]

The badge is the last thing TFC need to change.

Lighten up man!:rolleyes:

[Redcoe15]

Blaspheme, blaspheyou haha still think that big black "T" is draaaaabbbbbb!:D
:dita:haha, right back at ya!

[Hessanfefer]

:dita:haha, right back at ya!
tsk tsk now now

[james]

That's actually one of my faves as well. Was this the Isles logo you were talking about?

http://espn.go.com/i/magazine/new/050113_islanders2.jpg

It's not unheard of for clubs to change their badges though, speaking of Leeds United, they've gone through quite a few of them.

In any case, the TFC badge is great the way it is IMO. I don't want it changed now OR in the future.

ya many teams have changed there crests over the years like Tottenham or Aston Villa. But they only change a little bit, example Tottenham always still have that bird and Villa always kept there lions, just small details changed over the years.

[Dirk Diggler]

Lighten up man!:rolleyes:

How do you figure that I am not "lightened up"? Just because I do not want to tinker with the badge?

[AL-MO]

No changes are needed.

Its based off of the City of Toronto crest ya know.

http://www.ngw.nl/int/can/images/toronto3.jpg

[Hessanfefer]

ya many teams have changed there crests over the years like Tottenham or Aston Villa. But they only change a little bit, example Tottenham always still have that bird and Villa always kept there lions, just small details changed over the years.
prexactly!

[Hessanfefer]

No changes are needed.

Its based off of the City of Toronto crest ya know.

http://www.ngw.nl/int/can/images/toronto3.jpg
does'nt mean thats perfect either

[Darlofletch]

can you see LFC without the bird or United without the devil?
this is our crest. should never change.

dunno about man united, but liverpool's has changed a bunch of times. the liver bird's always there, but they keep adding and changing stuff around it, so I wouldn't say they're a great example.

on topic, no we shouldn't change the badge.

[AL-MO]

does'nt mean thats perfect either

Of course its not PERFECT, that is why its based off of it.

I can't even believe this is being discussed.

[xj Darrell]

Change it after 3 years?... Maybe tweak it after 30.
It's classy and understated and will last the test of time.

[rocker]

i have loved the TFC badge since the first time it flew across the screen for the first game in 2007 on Sportsnet. I remember the moment.. it was impressive.

[Hessanfefer]

Of course its not PERFECT, that is why its based off of it.

I can't even believe this is being discussed.
thats right just a discussion not a referendum or vote just some jabberwoking, idea floating blah blah but apparently it's too touchy a topic

[eustacchio]

Nah add a deer or raccoon by the Gardner instead. :hump:


Seriously, leave the emblem alone. It's simple and to the point. Next we'll have people saying we should get a mascot...:facepalm:

I was going to make a joke about a mascot earlier. Now I wish I had.

[Dirk Diggler]

thats right just a discussion not a referendum or vote just some jabberwoking, idea floating blah blah but apparently it's too touchy a topic

You wanted people's opinion and that is what people are giving you ... their opinion.

[Hessanfefer]

k then just seemed some were getting a little bit over sensitive

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

No changes are needed.

Its based off of the City of Toronto crest ya know.

http://www.ngw.nl/int/can/images/toronto3.jpg
I knew the flag of Toronto had a massive T but I don't think I'd ever seen the crest before... interesting.

Badges based on the city crest are the best ones IMO. Knowing this now, I think even more that we shouldn't change it.

[Roogsy]

You are mistaking incredulity for over-sensitivity.

Of all the things that need fixing...how important would this be even IF people disliked the logo?

And since it seems generally agreed that the crest is fantastic...how much moreso does it eliminate it from the general consciousness when there doesn't seem to be a need to change it?

[eustacchio]

Of course its not PERFECT, that is why its based off of it.

I can't even believe this is being discussed.

especially since everybody likes it the way it is...three pages later.

[eustacchio]

Well, except for you.

[Hessanfefer]

You are mistaking incredulity for over-sensitivity.

Of all the things that need fixing...how important would this be even IF people disliked the logo?

And since it seems generally agreed that the crest is fantastic...how much moreso does it eliminate it from the general consciousness when there doesn't seem to be a need to change it?

nope:D

[Hessanfefer]

poor assumption!

[james]

Change it after 3 years?... Maybe tweak it after 30.
It's classy and understated and will last the test of time.

i agree with this!

[eustacchio]

what assumption?

[Detroit_TFC]

Prem team crests change all the time. I imagine people freak every time it happens. Interestingly, according to Wiki, Arsenal changed their crest when it was discovered that their then current crest was not copyright-able. Thus in 2002 they changed it sufficiently to make it so.

When you been around a long time, that gives you the latitude to tinker. For a team in its fourth year of existance, not a great idea.

In any case, I love our crest.

[Bobo]

Best crest in MLS.

[Oldtimer]

Our crest is quite good. No need to change it.

LA's new one is good. Their old greenie one was horrible.
DC's also has a classic look to it.

[Lucky Strike]

Good picks- DC Uniteds' Eagle & Star an obvious patriotic reference, LA Galaxy, again a refrence to the city" galaxy of stars" , Philly Union, the historic reference to the" Don't tread on me" battle flag, Seattle the space Needle etc.. TFCs'...ok it has it's simple style, and I'm not suggesting we put a squirrel dancing through the DVP with a rainbow coloured scarf around its neck but there must be something more emblematic of Toronto or is the big T a phallic thing! lol Joking I'm joking sheesh did I touch a nerve or what!?

Shot in the dark here, but did you ever change TFC's wikipedia entry to add "red squirrels" as a nickname a while back (about 16-24 months ago) to make a point?

[James17930]

This is the latest 'stupidest thread' to hit the board in a while.

Sure, some teams do tweak their crests every once in a while, but maybe only after decades. We've only been around for 3 years!

Of all the relevant things we could be talking about, but instead we get this.

:picard:

[Hessanfefer]

nope I don't go to wikstupida

[Hessanfefer]

This is the latest 'stupidest thread' to hit the board in a while.

Sure, some teams do tweak their crests every once in a while, but maybe only after decades. We've only been around for 3 years!

Of all the relevant things we could be talking about, but instead we get this.

:picard:
Holy Crap! Ask an seemly innocent innocuous (opinion) question!!! WTF:chillpill::jaw:

[Torcida]

WTF?

[Brooker]

it should change every year. the team uniforms should change to a different color every year, aswell.

can we also change our name every year? next year we can be Tornados United of Toronto.

[Kilgore Trout]

the logo is the loveliest of lovely things.

[CretanBull]

http://www.ngw.nl/int/can/images/toronto3.jpg

Never mind changing TFC's crest, we SERIOUSLY need to change the City of Toronto's! Is that a giant beaver or a tiny bear? I haven't seen any giant beavers or tiny bears anywhere near Toronto!

[James17930]

Never mind changing TFC's crest, we SERIOUSLY need to change the City of Toronto's! Is that a giant beaver or a tiny bear? I haven't seen any giant beavers or tiny bears anywhere near Toronto!

Too easy ;)

[CretanBull]

^ I tee them up so you can knock them out of the park :D

[Cashcleaner]

At the risk of alienating myself from, well, pretty much EVERYONE, but...

I have to admit that I wasn't really blown away by the TFC crest when it was first revealed.

Sure, it's got good colours and doesn't go over the top with the design that so many other modern logos and crest do. Don't get me wrong, we could have done a lot worse when you look at all the other crests currently in use around the league. It's just that, I guess you have to call me a traditionalist, but I'm just sorta used to seeing visual themes like landmarks or metaphorical images on the crest that help to better represent the club in question.

Take Hibernian's crest, for example:

http://www.frontdesk.co.uk/public/wso/images/frontdesk/hibs.gif

The colours are green and white and the crest features the Harp of Ireland as a nod to the club's Irish heritage. The ship signify's the Port of Leith - the area of town the club plays in and is recognized as part of. And lastly, the castle on the bottom refer to Edinburgh Castle and the city as a whole.

And what about a popular club here in the boards; Leeds United?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Leeds_United_Logo.png


The newest Leeds United crest features the colours of the city (Blue and Gold), with the White Rose of York featured at the top. The White Rose is very historically significant dating back in this case specifically to the War of the Roses which were fought in England between the Houses of York and Lancaster, respectively, back in the 1400s.

Of course, not all club crests need to have any such imagery, but it does tend to help make the club more recognizable and helps better connect the team to the city or area it represents.

The this is, as so many have already mentioned, the crest is already out and a part of our history. It was worn on Danny Dichio when he scored our first goal. It was worn by Dwayne DeRosario when he scored a hat-trick during the Miracle in Montreal. And it was worn over the hearts of the thousands of TFC fans that crammed into Crew Stadium and outsang the home team.

In a lot of ways, I see our crest in the same way I do BMO Field. Not perfect (nothing ever is), but is already so deeply entrenched in our minds that we really can't imagine anything else.

http://gillismith.com/subsite_files/lakesideloyals/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/tfc-logo.jpg

^ Actually, you know what? That is as close to perfect as you can get.

[drewski]

can you see LFC without the bird or United without the devil?
this is our crest. should never change.

the devil was added in the 70's I believe. before that, they basically used a stripped down version of the city of Manchester coat of arms with the 3 diagonal lines

[Hessanfefer]

Finally, a lucid adult opinion! THANK YOU Cashcleaner. I'm done!

[billyfly]

k then just seemed some were getting a little bit over sensitive

STONE HIM! STONE HIM!

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/lev24.jpg

[Hessanfefer]

STONE HIM! STONE HIM!

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/lev24.jpg

:lol: haha

[ManUtd4ever]

STONE HIM! STONE HIM!

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/lev24.jpg

LOL!

[Belfast_Boy]

the devil was added in the 70's I believe. before that, they basically used a stripped down version of the city of Manchester coat of arms with the 3 diagonal lines


see only heathens change the badge!
kidding, i'm a traditionalist. don't like change and if i was one of the people that have a TFC tattoo and they changed it I'd be pissed.

That being said our bird has changed over the years. kinda trimmed down a bit.

[Hitcho]

Stone him? No no no no no... This is heresy, therefore...

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0810/burn-the-witch-burn-witch-kill-monty-python-demotivational-poster-1223816026.jpg

[s2cazz]

Never mind changing TFC's crest, we SERIOUSLY need to change the City of Toronto's! Is that a giant beaver or a tiny bear? I haven't seen any giant beavers or tiny bears anywhere near Toronto!
I don't know about bears but I have seen some GIANT Beavers :hump:

[Hitcho]

liverpool's has changed a bunch of times. the liver bird's always there, but they keep adding and changing stuff around it, so I wouldn't say they're a great example.

Not sure about this, but I think that at least some of those changes might be related to LFC's attempts to trade-mark their badge. It's always been opposed in the past as people are worried about being sued for using a liver bird, which is the symbol of the city. So LFC have set about using a very stylised version of the bird in an effort to only claim rights in that particular design of the liver bird and not all liver birds generally, coupled with other features of the club's crest. Latest effort was by Gillette and Hicks I think (which no doubt made them even more popular on Merseyside).

I know it's already been said, but anyone reading this thread just needs to look at the Crew badge and laugh. Nothing else really matters, just laugh and laugh and laugh. :D:D:D

[Macksam]

Never mind changing TFC's crest, we SERIOUSLY need to change the City of Toronto's! Is that a giant beaver or a tiny bear? I haven't seen any giant beavers or tiny bears anywhere near Toronto!
Giant beavers would scare the crap out of me. Imagine something as big as a bear, but with beaver reflexes? The human race would be replaced as the dominant species.


I have to admit that I wasn't really blown away by the TFC crest when it was first revealed.



http://gillismith.com/subsite_files/lakesideloyals/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/tfc-logo.jpg

^ Actually, you know what? That is as close to perfect as you can get.
Like you, I don't unlike it, but I wasn't blown away either. The different shades of grey within the shield make it look pretentious and need to go, along with the Maple Leaf on the top. Also, instead of "Toronto" it should have "FC" on there instead.

[Belfast_Boy]

I don't know about bears but I have seen some GIANT Beavers :hump:

much worse than a bear!

[Fort York Redcoat]

We can return to this thread in 25 years. maybe.

Changing the crest after so little time is lame. It's a great crest the way it is.

Be honest. You want a looney toon character in it don't you?:taz:

[billyfly]

Giant beavers would scare the crap out of me. Imagine something as big as a bear, but with beaver reflexes? The human race would be replaced as the dominant species.

Like you, I don't unlike it, but I wasn't blown away either. The different shades of grey within the shield make it look pretentious and need to go, along with the Maple Leaf on the top. Also, instead of "Toronto" it should have "FC" on there instead.

Are you bat-shit crazy??

[Belfast_Boy]

personally I was pretty happy when I first saw it. was worried we'd end up with some shite logo, a stupid mascot and cheerleaders! or they'd change the rules or the field like last time with the stupid off-side line!

[madcow]

Like alot of other opinions that have already been posted I believe it's to soon, as a supporter I feel very proud to wear the crest year round. Most teams or businesses for that matter only change their logo to rebrand / re-establish their identity while other are timeless, they have that classic look and you immediately identify with what they represent. We quite possibly have that logo right now, we know what we have as a club and where we our goals lie but the crest needs to stand the test of time.

[Blazer]

Seriously?! Change the badge so that we can get sick of the new one in 3 years and look for another?! C’mon, this team has bigger issues to shore up before we should be concerning ourselves with a fucking crest.

It’s mint as is.

[ua-kozak_TFC]

I know this is probably an insignificant issue, but what does anyone else think about TFCs' badge? I think it's rather bland compared to other MLS teams and a better design could be proposed. The bold capital "T" with the grey ,white bars seems so unimaginative! Granted, it doesn't make for a better team on the pitch, but hey, how 'bout some of you artistes out there give it a go. Unofficially, of coarse.:scarf:
You are totally wrong... I hope TFC do no EVER change the crest like a lot of franchises in america often rebrand themselves...

Sorry bud, but i had to: it hard to give value to a critique when it's comming from someone who has bucks bunny character on their avatar...
Any badge can be found something that they found wrong... even in the best ones.. you can;t please anyone because its all subjective... so yea.. CASE CLOSED!!

[Redcoe15]

Finally, a lucid adult opinion! THANK YOU Cashcleaner. I'm done!
Good, then you won't come back, stoopidhead! :p

[Hessanfefer]

oooo...touchy! haha....ahaha.... you guys are a laugh!! BTW it's BUGS bunny there mate

[Hessanfefer]

Good, then you won't come back, stoopidhead! :p

Are you kidding..I'm just gettin' started. This is a lark! Hmmm..let's see what else can I annoy these kids with!?:ihih: :poke: muahahaha!!

[Parkdale]

Are you kidding..I'm just gettin' started. This is a lark! Hmmm..let's see what else can I annoy these kids with!?:ihih: :poke: muahahaha!!

I know you're just having a laugh now... but make sure to check article #4 (http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/faq.php)

[billyfly]

I think Mighty re-signed up under another name.

[Hessanfefer]

You are totally wrong... I hope TFC do no EVER change the crest like a lot of franchises in america often rebrand themselves...

Sorry bud, but i had to: it hard to give value to a critique when it's comming from someone who has bucks bunny character on their avatar...
Any badge can be found something that they found wrong... even in the best ones.. you can;t please anyone because its all subjective... so yea.. CASE CLOSED!!

Well let's see .. a Super Mario, Yellow M&M, Tiger,...nah I'll stick with Bugs, love the irreverance he represents!!

[Hessanfefer]

I know you're just having a laugh now... but make sure to check article #4 (http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/faq.php)

well haven't posted same thing over and over just replied,ignorant or pointless thread hmmm... well that's subjective but I don't think so, offending! :rolleyes:..you're joking ,right? well maybe in 3rd Gr nah nah!Spamming uh not by any intelligent definition. So whatever!

[billyfly]

TFC's new Badge. Think of the possibilities!

http://www.bowlofserial.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/01-the-shocker.jpg

[flambe]

I am not a fan of the "logo" they came up with for Toronto FC. I use the term logo, because that is all I really see, there is no history behind the design except for a giant "T".

As previously mentioned, a large majority of team badges have deep heraldry roots, Liverpool and Leeds to name examples already used.

The crest of Toronto as posted has SO MUCH MORE to offer than the letter "T".



quote from http:// (http://mad-alchemy.com/heraldry/toronto.htm)mad-alchemy.com/heraldry/toronto.htm
"The beaver and bear are two of the original inhabitants of the area; the beaver also suggests industry and Canada, while the bear (presumably taken from the crest of the provincial arms (http://mad-alchemy.com/heraldry/ontario.htm)) represents strength and a tendency to swallow up one's neighbours. They bear medallions with an alder leaf (representing Etobicoke) and a columbine flower (for Scarborough). The golden eagle as the crest is meant to symbolize freedom and to honour the Mississauga First Nations (who held the eagle as sacred). The mural crown (beneath the eagle) represents civic authority, bears two white roses (for York and East York, two of the municipalities that were assimilated) and a heart (for North York). The compartment shows three rivers (the Don, Humber, and Rouge), flowing into a lake (Lake Ontario)."



Beavers, Bears, Eagles, a crown, flowers, yet they chose the "T" and no doubt had endless conversations on what typeface to use.
GENIUS :facepalm:


However, that is what we have been dealt, and we should under no circumstances change it.
:scarf:

It's now our club emblem.

[xj Darrell]

there is no history behind the design except for a giant "T".

Yup that maple leaf is useless.....
And the red and white doesn't remind you of anything...

[flambe]

Yup that maple leaf is useless.....
And the red and white doesn't remind you of anything...


The maple leaf is Canadian rather than exclusively Toronto, no?
Red and White remind me of anything Torontonian, can't say that it does.

Am I missing something?

[Fort York Redcoat]

As the first Canadian team in MLS they went Canadian. No problem with that here.

[flambe]

As the first Canadian team in MLS they went Canadian. No problem with that here.

Fair enough, still think the Bear would have been a better choice.

[xj Darrell]

Am I missing something?

Yes you are. TFC carefully chose the symbol and colours of our Country. What has more historical significance than that?

-And very smart marketing I might add-

[Fort York Redcoat]

^^Yeah but the temptation to give us a lame mascot and official nickname would be too much.

I like our city flag, though.

xj- Careful. We all know we're the centre of the universe but to SAY it.

That's just Metrolitist. We can't have that.

[Kevvv]

5 pages?

[xj Darrell]

xj- Careful. We all know we're the centre of the universe but to SAY it.

When TFC entered the MLS they were the epicenter of the resurgence of Canadian football.
They didn't know other Canadian teams would be entering the MLS - so they went patriotic with the crest and colours. I didn't say Toronto is the center of the universe - I simply said TFC chose Canadian symbols and colours - which was not by accident. They billed themselves as "Canada's Team".

I know 99% of us agree the crest is great.

[flambe]

@xj Darrell,

I understand that, however TFC should IMO be more relevant to the City of Toronto. With the exception of the "T" the crest could be for any Canadian football team.

Stick an "M" in the middle and Montreal can repurpose it.

All I am saying is.....
"I think they could have done a much better job giving the team a Toronto identity considering what they had to work with."

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

The maple leaf is Canadian rather than exclusively Toronto, no?
Red and White remind me of anything Torontonian, can't say that it does.

Am I missing something?
Flag of Ontario is red and has 3 maple leaves on it, and the flag of Quebec is blue.

What colour would you have had it? Not every team has to wear the colours of its city.

[Kevvv]

How many US teams (soccer or otherwise) have a star in their logo/name/uniform?

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

OK, now this thread is getting to the point where people are just picking at straws to have anything to complain about...

[s2cazz]

I am not a fan of the "logo" they came up with for Toronto FC. I use the term logo, because that is all I really see, there is no history behind the design except for a giant "T".


Yes because an infant team in relatively new league (compared to most) should have a logo thats loaded with history!:picard:

[flambe]

Yes because an infant team in relatively new league (compared to most) should have a logo thats loaded with history!:picard:

I'm talking about The CITY of Toronto, it doesn't matter how old the team is, the CITY has plenty of history which could be signified in the crest.

[flambe]

Flag of Ontario is red and has 3 maple leaves on it, and the flag of Quebec is blue.

What colour would you have had it? Not every team has to wear the colours of its city.

True enough, but this still does not represent TORONTO.

[Redpunkfiddle]

OK, now this thread is getting to the point where people are just picking at straws to have anything to complain about...

Sack the CSA!

[Keystone FC]

Man am I late to this thread.

I like the crest we have but I was also thinking 2 years ahead in 2012 (no not the end of the world) but in 2 years time it will be the 5th anniversary of the club (id my numbers are right).
What I was thinking with the 5th ann. would it be a good time to actually have some sort of 'official' nickname?
I know the Reds have been used for awhile now but wouldn't more apt to have it as an official name of the club?
Another thing would take on the Falcons name from one of the old Toronto clubs and replace the leaf on the TFC crest with the falcon from the city crest.

[SilverSamurai]

Sack the CSA!

I blame the CSA.:canada:

[Always There]

I love how I jump to the last post in a thread about a new TFC crest, and it's about blaming the CSA.

Sure, I'll go with that. As long as we leave the TFC crest alone.

[trane]

Why do we have to be red and black, why are we not red and black, I would much prefer that. Maybe our home jerseys could be like the Milan/United thirds jerseys, black with red trim. Why not?

[trane]

^ Why can't we call ourselves AC Toronto, or even better AC MILAN TORONTO. Forget Toronto, lets just call oursleves AC MILAN NORTH AMERICA. I like that, lets get it done.

[JuliquE]

Do pardon my lateness here, but I suffer from argumentative anorexia.. and, after ingesting the thread title, I must now perform a feat in regurgitating much of what's already been said (for me, it's just an important/dear topic; worth chiming in with the masses, if only for the statement that an increasing majority would make).

If we do a tally, here, our badge is a clear win:

-Nod to our city's crest, as from the main shape and large, capital, "T"

-Nod to our Canadian heritage, with the predominant inclusion of both red & white; the maple leaf at the top does a good job of this, as well.. but the ends of that scarf-like portion, with the word "TORONTO" over top of it, seem to complete an overall "maple leaf modelling" of our badge (may be a bit of a stretch, but I think some might see it; think of the vertical strike in the "T" as the stem =)

-Nod to one of our nicknames (even if not the most favoured, or still unofficial), with the capital "T" between the letters "FC"

** * **

It may be argued that they could've drawn influence from some other aspect of Toronto or it's history, but then such would only beg the question: why not base it off the crest? Sure, the colours could be swapped for any Canadian team.. but then the rest of the nation would've upgraded us to Category 5 Conceited Status, were we to fail in paying homage to our heritage (as, quite possibly, the only ever Canadian team in MLS).

Many of the older clubs in football have a collage of crap in their badges - a grand fuster cluck, if you like - that just doesn't appear too visually pleasing (IMHumbleO, of course). :tongue:

Simple and to the point prevails, here. It may be easily recreated/remembered, and checks most all the boxes, as far as I'm concerned - no.. it "T's" all the boxes - yeah. Win.

:flare: :scarf: :flare:

Also - what up?! This would be my first time posting, as it were.

[uncle p]

The crest is PERFECT!!

How can anyone complain about no history in the crest and then call for changes?!?! I DONT GET THIS!! Have the last two and half years meant nothing to you ppl?

How bout we build history with what we go? That gets my vote!!

[scooter]

one word NO

[billyfly]

If I was a MOD (hint, hint) I would have closed this thread by now.