Columbus vs Salt Lake!

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[cementhead]

Look Like a big crow in Columbus!

[v00d00daddy]

i've only found a spanish feed. anyone with an english one?

[Brooker]

http://www.justin.tv/atlbossplaya1105

can somebody merge the 2 threads?

[cementhead]

1-0 Crew every fast pace game!

[MUFC_Niagara]

It took Columbus only 18 minds to pull that goal back. RSL have looked dangerous though.

[Brooker]

18 minds? ...is that the combined total in the stands?

[Brooker]

RSL stinks.

2-0

[TFC USA]

Eat a cock Schelotto.

I bet it's KKKrew in the Cup again.

[Brooker]

Omg!!!!!!!!!!!! 2-1!

[TFC USA]

Morales Bitches!

[Brooker]

it's all gone quiet over there.......

where did all the generic MLS chants go?

[MUFC_Niagara]

this is shaping up to be a cracker of a match

[MUFC_Niagara]

if i'm honest, RSL looked as though they were going to score and they were somewhat unlucky to be down 2-0

[MUFC_Niagara]

so as it stands, the road goal would be enough to send RSL through!

[Brooker]

if the game stays 2-1, RSL goes through, correct? away goal yes?

not that i think it will stay 2-1, though.

[Brooker]

Yes! Penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SWEET JUSTICE! FINALLY SOMEBODY OTHER THAN CLB GETS IT!

[MUFC_Niagara]

penalty!!!!!!!!

[wzhxvy]

Lol Ha Ha Ha

[Brooker]

Dont Miss You Fool!

[TFC USA]

2-2!

[TorCanSoc]

C'mon Findley!

[Brooker]

So Columbus Has To Score 2?

[TorCanSoc]

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[TFC USA]

Come on RSL win this thing.

[cementhead]

Oh boy Crew in trouble!End of half 2-2 all!

[MUFC_Niagara]

So Columbus Has To Score 2?

I would assume because of the away goals, but this is MLS so I also would not be surprised if they do not have the away goals rule.

[jloome]

No, the away goals rule doesn't apply in MLS.

It's extra time, then penalties.

[Brooker]

it would be absolutely absurd if Columbus only had to score one to tie up the aggragate.

[thisisinternetclash]

Just to clear things up, the away goals rule does not apply in the MLS playoffs. I can confirm this 100%. I think it's actually a pretty reasonable thing to do; the higher seeded team deserves to have as much of an advantage as is possible in a two-legged playoff format. This way, if the tie is drawn on aggregate, the Crew get a chance to win during a half hour or extra time and penalties in front of their home crowd. I think that's fair enough.

[deltox]

but CLB have to score again or they are done.

[MUFC_Niagara]

No, the away goals rule doesn't apply in MLS.

It's extra time, then penalties.

LMAO....MLS :facepalm:

[Brooker]

what a joke.

[kodiakTFC]

LMAO....MLS :facepalm:

Agreed, oh god mls.

[thisisinternetclash]

In my opinion it would be more of a joke if, after topping the table for most of the season, the Crew could be so easily dismissed in the first round of the playoffs by a team that just crept in, and not be given any tangible advantage for being much better than their opponent over the course of 30 matches. Just because the away goals rule is football orthodoxy elsewhere in the world, it doesn't mean it's the only solution or objectively a better solution or than otherwise.

[Brooker]

http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/catImages/mickeysoccerosp-1.jpg

[Blizzard]

Agreed, oh god mls.

If only people could keep score without the need for math skills. :picard:

[MUFC_Niagara]

In my opinion it would be more of a joke if, after topping the table for most of the season, the Crew could be so easily dismissed in the first round of the playoffs by a team that just crept in, and not be given any tangible advantage for being much better than their opponent over the course of 30 matches. Just because the away goals rule is football orthodoxy elsewhere in the world, it doesn't mean it's the only solution or objectively a better solution or than otherwise.

Their advantage? They got to play a lesser team and the had the opportunity to score on the road first....AND DIDN'T. Then, they got the 2nd leg at HOME and need to score 1 goal....instead they gave up 2. How about the reward for RSL scoring 2 on the road?

[MUFC_Niagara]

http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/catImages/mickeysoccerosp-1.jpg

Is that Don Garber? lol.

[Brooker]

lol...

actually Garber has bigger ears.

[rocker]

Their advantage? They got to play a lesser team and the had the opportunity to score on the road first....AND DIDN'T. Then, they got the 2nd leg at HOME and need to score 1 goal....instead they gave up 2. How about the reward for RSL scoring 2 on the road?

why should teams get "rewarded" for scoring on the road. I mean, scoring on the road is already an advantage.. why make it worth more?

i like the current system.. simple.. and if teams don't feel an "incentive" to score on the road, well, that's balanced by the desire of the home team to score at home.. so they better try to score on the road.

[TorCanSoc]

I think the statement is, "there is no 12'th man advantage" in MLS. Which is correct. Did New England have an advantage playing at home with 7,000 fans in that cavernous stadium? Its MLS folks, lets not bite the hand that spanks us. :)

[werewolf]

away goals is the worst thing to plague modern-football since they removal of the Golden Goal.

[thisisinternetclash]

I say if there must be playoffs at all (and for a number of reasons there must) then the higher seed should be given every possible advantage. Otherwise the regular season becomes meaningless and the quality of play suffers.

[MUFC_Niagara]

why should teams get "rewarded" for scoring on the road. I mean, scoring on the road is already an advantage.. why make it worth more?

i like the current system.. simple.. and if teams don't feel an "incentive" to score on the road, well, that's balanced by the desire of the home team to score at home.. so they better try to score on the road.

It promotes attacking football. If a team doesn't get an incentive to score away from home, why not just put 11 behind the ball and absorb pressure? Also, I think we'd agree that football crowds provide one of, if not the most intimidating atmosphere in sport. Scoring at a stadium in Turkey for example, should carry a heavier reward.

[MUFC_Niagara]

What is the point in playing legs if away goals aren't rewarded? Why not just play 1 game at the higher seed?

[thisisinternetclash]

I imagine over time it would prove to be the case that their are fewer "freak" or shock results with a two leg format, which again - at least theoretically - rewards the stronger teams, and ultimately promotes quality in the league. It also allows more teams to host playoff matches, which is necessary and positive for revenue purposes, but also allows fans in weaker markets to see their clubs play meaningful matches and hopefully become more engaged, having done so.

[MUFC_Niagara]

I imagine over time it would prove to be the case that their are fewer "freak" or shock results with a two leg format, which again - at least theoretically - rewards the stronger teams, and ultimately promotes quality in the league. It also allows more teams to host playoff matches, which is necessary and positive for revenue purposes, but also allows fans in weaker markets to see their clubs play meaningful matches and hopefully become more engaged, having done so.

So, in practical terms....there is no reason.

[FluSH]

Intense game so far...

Just logged on cause I have to say this:

If anyone had any doubts about us moving up North, you need to look at Columbus and see how they turned around with their supporter area... We need to get all our members together as one unit...

we have outgrown our location and the scalpers seats remain with control in the South...

[thisisinternetclash]

I've given you two entirely practical reasons.

[MUFC_Niagara]

RSL is hanging on here...hopefully they can pull this out!

[FluSH]

In my opinion it would be more of a joke if, after topping the table for most of the season, the Crew could be so easily dismissed in the first round of the playoffs by a team that just crept in

Playoff format... it happens in every league... didn't the NFL favourites get their asses handed by NY Giants two years ago? After winning every game during the regular season...

[MUFC_Niagara]

wow.....that should have been a goal

[werewolf]

moglich keit!

that baldguy was ridiculously unmarked, that should have been 3.

[thisisinternetclash]

Right; and I think, ideally, it shouldn't be like that. There should be real, substantial reward for being six or seven places in the table higher after an entire thirty game season; as much as possible, at least. The higher seeds should win the opening round of the playoffs much more often than not. Obviously every once in a while there would be an upset, but at least at that point it would be a genuine upset, and more weighty and circumstantial due to the rarity of that sort of thing occurring.

[MUFC_Niagara]

Playoff format... it happens in every league... didn't the NFL favourites get their asses handed by NY Giants two years ago? After winning every game during the regular season...

Exactly....so the away goals rule would benefit more so in the sense that if they scored away as the top seed, it should be tougher for the lower seed, RSL, to score on the road.

[werewolf]

Gol Gol Gol!

[MUFC_Niagara]

GOAL!!!! That's been coming!!!!!!!!!

[TFC USA]

OMFG!

[werewolf]

poor poor goalkeeping.

[wzhxvy]

check the ball....i think Williams puts vaseline on them

[TFC USA]

Yo Werewolf I affected your promotion chances with a 2-2 draw. A win and a draw against your very talented squad is an honor to me.

[TFC USA]

Suck it KKKrew!

[MUFC_Niagara]

Crew Stadium is silent.....AND I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!

[MUFC_Niagara]

the only thing that could make this better......is if one of those cheerleaders got hit with laser struck ball right in the head

[werewolf]

Mexico City derby on now, Go Pumas!

[cementhead]

Boy Tim You Show No love for the crew ever want cheer leader hurt!

[Niall]

Wooo!!!!! It's all gone quiet over there!!

[cementhead]

Can you here Columbus sing!

[MUFC_Niagara]

Boy Tim You Show No love for the crew ever want cheer leader hurt!

LOL...its true!

[rocker]

F-you columbass!!!

[cementhead]

3-2rsl!

[james]

LMAO....MLS :facepalm:

Euro Champions League and UEFA didnt come up with that stupid away goal rule till i think about 2003. And i personally think that was a bad mistake. It makes me mad when one game is 1-1 and the 2nd game is 2-2 and yet just because 1 team scored more goals away they get to move on. That BS when both teams played completely even. I think MLS made the right decision by not following Euro on the stupid away rule and i wish Euro went back to the way it was before.

On another note.......
Columbus are out!!!!! :)

[FluSH]

Mexico City derby on now, Go Pumas!

haha!

[werewolf]

Massive!!!

[werewolf]

haha!

Pumas are out of the Apetura anyway. All that is left for America is seeding in the division, they could take 2nd with a win.

[werewolf]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!

Dario Veron!

Unmarked header off a corner, that Salt Lake defender should take notes on how to finish.

[Chevy]

Every time Columbus loses, an Angel gets his wings. :)

[GBV]

Euro Champions League and UEFA didnt come up with that stupid away goal rule till i think about 2003. And i personally think that was a bad mistake. It makes me mad when one game is 1-1 and the 2nd game is 2-2 and yet just because 1 team scored more goals away they get to move on. That BS when both teams played completely even. I think MLS made the right decision by not following Euro on the stupid away rule and i wish Euro went back to the way it was before.

On another note.......
Columbus are out!!!!! :)

i agree wholeheartedly. the away-goal rule is ridiculous.

[TFC_Chris]

See you later Columbus!

I LIKE THAT!!

[Brooker]

loving it.

[werewolf]

Pumas won 3-2 over America, 90th min penalty to save the win for the home-side after Dario Veron's double was almost blown by a late brace from Cabanas. America still are in the Apetura playoffs though.

[Super]

I like the away goal rule. It encourages away teams to move forward and play some attacking football. The alternative is that away teams tend to bunker down, hoping for a 0-0 result.

[Brooker]

C R E............ W...................

[Brooker]

and as all the bandwagon KKKrew fans abandon ship........

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/nirvana123/user1179_pic1311_1234877322.jpg?t=1257497678

[MUFC_Niagara]

Euro Champions League and UEFA didnt come up with that stupid away goal rule till i think about 2003. And i personally think that was a bad mistake. It makes me mad when one game is 1-1 and the 2nd game is 2-2 and yet just because 1 team scored more goals away they get to move on. That BS when both teams played completely even. I think MLS made the right decision by not following Euro on the stupid away rule and i wish Euro went back to the way it was before.

On another note.......
Columbus are out!!!!! :)

Well, I still disagree and the away goal rule came in in the 90's. But whatever, the crew are out!!!!

[GBV]

I like the away goal rule. It encourages away teams to move forward and play some attacking football. The alternative is that away teams tend to bunker down, hoping for a 0-0 result.

on the flip side, if an away team goes up 1-0 in game 1, or even ties it 1-1 ... they often put everyone back.

the rule is just arbitrary. a goal is a goal is a goal is a goal.

[Pookie]

From a format perspective, the whole idea of playoffs is a north american necessity. If Columbus finished on top of the table over the course of a 30 game season, in theory, they should be champs.

RSL was better in 2 games but Columbus proved to be the better team over the season. That said, way to go RSL :)

As far as alternative formats and revenue go, one consideration might be to treat the playoffs like a mini-champions league.

Adopt a group format for the top 8 seeds. Play each other, give the top seeds a home field advantage by allowing the games to be played at the home of the higher seed.

Then the top 2 in each group play each other in a knock out format (you could even make the knock out a best of 3 scenario to appease the North American fan).

Winners play for the Cup (again, could even be a best of 3).

I think a version of that is already being considered...?

[ag futbol]

i agree wholeheartedly. the away-goal rule is ridiculous.
I second that. It makes for a lot of ugly, overly-tactical play through two legs.

[Beach_Red]

From a format perspective, the whole idea of playoffs is a north american necessity. If Columbus finished on top of the table over the course of a 30 game season, in theory, they should be champs.



And the playoffs only became an important part of North American sports when there was competition among many sports and a need for a showcase.

Remember, baseball had been a single table (well, two single tables) league with no playoffs, just a pennant winner, for a long time before some newspaper sponsored a series between the champions of each league.

With so many sports competing for viewers (because it's really the TV ratings that drive all this now) every sport needs a period of a few weeks to focus attention.

If soccer can succeed in America witout that showcase, with interest sustained for the entire season in enough cities to make it a big-time league, that'll be great.

[BuSaPuNk]

CRE....W sorry excuse for a fucking crew!! Clownubus is out what a great day today.

[Gazza_55]

away goals is the worst thing to plague modern-football since they removal of the Golden Goal.

100% agree with you Werewolf. And I don't worry about teams playing for nil-nil in the MLS playoffs. This is not UEFA where in some competitions you have the Norwegian Champions playing Chelsea. In MLS every team has the same resources. The only nil-nil so far was Seattle v Houston and that was a really good match.

10,109 fans in C-bus last night is a joke. They are defending champs and had a month to sell tickets. Just ridiculous.

[Pookie]

And the playoffs only became an important part of North American sports when there was competition among many sports and a need for a showcase.

True enough. It explains why the PGA Tour felt the need for a "playoff" format.

What I don't understand is why they went to NASCAR for the blueprints. NASCAR fans and golf fans don't belong to the same country club. I think they would have been better off to develop a format that their fans could relate to. ie. A tournament to seed the top 16 (or whatever) who then advance to match play... which they use in the US Amateur.

MLS, if they are moving to more of a "Champions league" format with a group stage followed by knock out format, is headed in the right direction IMO. Assuming of course that playoffs are necessary.

[Whoop]

So much for my prediction of Columbus repeating.

I'll take LA Galaxy to win Bob.

[TFC RealDeal RPB]

Intense game so far...

Just logged on cause I have to say this:

If anyone had any doubts about us moving up North, you need to look at Columbus and see how they turned around with their supporter area... We need to get all our members together as one unit...

we have outgrown our location and the scalpers seats remain with control in the South...


YES YES YES WE NEED T GET IT DONE