California Derby

[ensco]

LA v Chivas
5pm today on GolTV

This is the first time that two American professional sports teams using the same facility have met in the playoffs since the 1944 World Series between the St. Louis Cardinals and the St. Louis Browns, who shared Sportsman’s Park.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/sports/soccer/01mls.html?_r=1&ref=soccer

[Yohan]

i'm going to bet HDC isn't going to be sold out

[flatpicker]

^ interesting bit of trivia.


I wish I had GolTV... in fact, I wish my tv went higher than channel 70!

[FluSH]

I'll be watching this... the rivalry between the Chivas and LAX supporters is intense from what I hear... let's see if this is true... I believe this game should be sold out...

[canadian_bhoy]

Too bad the game isn't on a channel that people actually watch.

[sulfur]

Back in the day, ABC used to have Saturday afternoon games. And they'd show most of the playoffs too.

The ratings were so abysmal that they replaced it with infomercials!

Just be happy we get to see anything at all!

[Lucky Strike]

I'll definitely be tuning into this one. They're good matches even just in the regular season, imagine the playoffs.

[rocker]

Too bad the game isn't on a channel that people actually watch.

i watch GolTV. you don't???

[Mikey]

With no Gol TV I wouldn't be able to relive our glorious 5-0 playoff performance compressed into an hour, three times a day.....:facepalm:

[ensco]

Beckham has a playoff beard going
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bMcLR980Cs

[wzhxvy]

I am looking forward to watching this...should be good.

[FluSH]

It's funny how Beckham said that they "have unity" as a team after the high profile beef between Donovan and Bekcham, and Beckham vs the team...

Maybe bringing out the posions out in the open between what camps don't get along with who at TFC will do us good...

[canadian_bhoy]

i watch GolTV. you don't???

Rogers rapes me for enough already.


Beckham has a playoff beard going
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bMcLR980Cs

I'm embarrassed to know that it's not a playoff beard. Apparently he was growing it for halloween (wolverine).

I feel dirty for knowing that.

[Dirk Diggler]

I thought the Galaxy - Earthquakes matchup was called the California Derby? This is known as the Superclassico, right?

[wzhxvy]

I think you are right Diggler

[ensco]

I thought the Quakes-Galaxy was the California Classico....

[Dirk Diggler]

It is ... "classico" and "derby" are interchangeable.

[flatpicker]

I assume this will be streamed online on Justin.tv or something?

[ensco]

^Challenge :)

I say derby only applies when you play a team in the same city.

[Chewy Unikronik]

^Challenge :)

I say derby only applies when you play a team in the same city.
Well, they play in the SAME STADIUM, so I guess that counts...

[Lennon]

I've been waiting for this game all week ... have a ton of $$ on LA because the bookies think that they're the away team and the odds are way off ... :lol:

[thisisinternetclash]

Chivas USA
22 Zach Thornton (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=36460&cc=5901) (G)
12 Carey Talley (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=36089&cc=5901) (D)
13 Jonathan Bornstein (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=75621&cc=5901) (D)
6 Ante Jazic (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=84406&cc=5901) (D)
45 Yamith Cuesto (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=140393&cc=5901) (D)
5 Paulo Nagamura (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=56901&cc=5901) (M)
16 Sacha Kljestan (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=75571&cc=5901) (M)
10 Jesus Padilla (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=103690&cc=5901) (M)
27 Michael Lahoud (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=131255&cc=5901) (M)
17 Justin Braun (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=118169&cc=5901) (ST)
29 Maicon Santos (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=141636&cc=5901) (ST)


Los Angeles
1 Donovan Ricketts (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=40648&cc=5901) (G)
16 Gregg Berhalter (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=20110&cc=5901) (D)
2 Todd Dunivant (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=36394&cc=5901) (D)
28 Sean Franklin (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=115251&cc=5901) (D)
4 Omar Gonzalez (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=132237&cc=5901) (D)
23 David Beckham (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/profile?id=8880&cc=5901) (M)
33 Chris Birchall (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=10445&cc=5901) (M)
8 Dema Kovalenko (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=36491&cc=5901) (M)
10 Landon Donovan (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/profile?id=19107&cc=5901) (ST)
18 Mike Magee (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=36130&cc=5901) (ST)
14 Edson Buddle (http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=36133&cc=5901) (ST)

[cementhead]

This game available on GoLTV!

[flatpicker]

hmmmm... for those that can get it! I need a new tv and an updated cable service!

online stream for me.

[JDG]

hmmmm... for those that can get it! I need a new tv and an updated cable service!

online stream for me.

If you don't have TVU installed, you will need to install the add-on when prompted.

http://www.atdhe.net/tv/watch_goltv.html

[JDG]

That link I posted is showing a different game right now. What time does the MLS game begin?

[wzhxvy]

they are still in pre-game on GolTV...so I guess at 5:15

[sulfur]

Full discussion on the match is here:

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=18305

[flatpicker]

I was watching the NE game on veetle.com... good looking feed.
Trying to do the same for LA... the feed looks good, but keeps cutting out... pissing me off!
Frustrating because it seems to be the best looking feed out there.

But I may have to go with atdhe.net or justin.tv

[JDG]

OK the link I posted is not the Canadian GOL, so try this one instead: http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4abc7eb5baa7d

You'll need to install the add-on as above.

[flatpicker]

Thanks sulfur...

So you know... I intend to start 5 additional threads about LA and Beckham.

[flatpicker]

OK the link I posted is not the Canadian GOL, so try this one instead: http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4abc7eb5baa7d

You'll need to install the add-on as above.


good timing JDG... see my post above.

The feed is still freezing up on me!

[boban]

And cue the pundits with the scene of the empty upper deck to go along with the less than capacity lower level.

[flatpicker]

I can't believe that they can't sell out a stadium when it's the home ground for both teams!
Not to mention Beckham is playing.

Man, people in LA really don't give a shit!
Did they not make season ticket holders buy a playoff ticket like MLSE did?

[wzhxvy]

to not have a sellout here is shameful...I assume that Chivas STHs get the priority for tickets for this game so if you are a Galaxy fan, you get tickets as a visiting fan to go watch your team in your own stadium...

[boban]

I can't believe that they can't sell out a stadium when it's the home ground for both teams!
Not to mention Beckham is playing.

Man, people in LA really don't give a shit!
Did they not make season ticket holders buy a playoff ticket like MLSE did?

to not have a sellout here is shameful...I assume that Chivas STHs get the priority for tickets for this game so if you are a Galaxy fan, you get tickets as a visiting fan to go watch your team in your own stadium...
Right on cue.
Thanks for showing up guys. :rolleyes:

[TFCRegina]

The best thing for MLS would be the Galaxy in the final...Beckham and Donovan reads like a great story line.

[wzhxvy]

No problem boban...look forward to your insights.

[flatpicker]

Right on cue.
Thanks for showing up guys. :rolleyes:

http://a.media.community.abcfamily.go.com/images/shut_up.jpg

[ensco]

There are only about 800 Chivas STHs.

[flatpicker]

There are only about 800 Chivas STHs.

I think it's safe to call that a "fail".

[Super]

I think it's safe to call that a "fail".

But a WIN for those 800 who get to watch a play-off team.

[flatpicker]

^ can't argue with that.

[rocker]

According to Alan Hopkins, Beckham has "world class balls"

[wzhxvy]

According to Alan Hopkins, Beckham has "world class balls"

great weight on his balls too

[SvenFlu]

to not have a sellout here is shameful...I assume that Chivas STHs get the priority for tickets for this game so if you are a Galaxy fan, you get tickets as a visiting fan to go watch your team in your own stadium...

Stadium looks full to me. Where are you seeing its not a sellout?

[wzhxvy]

Stadium looks full to me. Where are you seeing its not a sellout?

early on the second deck was empty...not sure if it has filled up since then.

[SvenFlu]

early on the second deck was empty...not sure if it has filled up since then.

I've noticed that LA fans always show up fashionably late for sporting events. I don't know why. Traffic in So Cal is always bad I guess?

Edit: Goal Donovan. 2-1 Galaxy 42nd minute. Atmosphere does suck though. Can't hear any singing.

[boban]

No problem boban...look forward to your insights.
Oh that was insightful
Can't you just watch a game for what it is?
Why always point out what isn't there?
Point out what is there!! There are about 20,000 fans, which is great.
95% of all soccer teams in the world would kill for those number, and those include teams in Serie A, La Liga, and elsewhere in Europe.
Enjoy the game. Enough of the negative talk. :)

[wzhxvy]

Oh that was insightful
Can't you just watch a game for what it is?
Why always point out what isn't there?
Point out what is there!! There are about 20,000 fans, which is great.
95% of all soccer teams in the world would kill for those number, and those include teams in Serie A, La Liga, and elsewhere in Europe.
Enjoy the game. Enough of the negative talk. :)

yes thats fantastic insight...thanks so much for that.

And no 20,000 fans is not great, in LA, for two home teams, in what is supposed to be a heated rivalry, in the playoffs.

[flatpicker]

Enjoy the game. Enough of the negative talk. :)

Just to clarify...
Pointing out that attendance is poor (or folks are fashionably late) is not negative talk.
It's just an observation.
I saw no negative energy in this thread until you starting taking shots.

And yes, I am enjoying the game...

[boban]

yes thats fantastic insight...thanks so much for that.

And no 20,000 fans is not great, in LA, for two home teams, in what is supposed to be a heated rivalry, in the playoffs.
What is supposed to be is what is there.
The game is gaining a foothold in the US.
Again, there are derby's in Europe that don't get those numbers.
Enjoy the atmosphere form this game. I am. It's awesome.

[boban]

Just to clarify...
Pointing out that attendance is poor (or folks are fashionably late) is not negative talk.
It's just an observation.
I saw no negative energy in this thread until you starting taking shots.

And yes, I am enjoying the game...
Outside of the Sounders game, every game starts off by pointing out the lack of sell out crowd and small crowd size.
Just watch the game FFS!!!

[Beach_Red]

It is a crazy league. 35,000 in Seattle, 7500 in New England, 11,500 in Salt Lake and now 20,000 in LA.

[FluSH]

some nifty passes by LAX, at times I wonder how we would have faired if we squeezed into the playoffs...

[Torontotonto]

^ interesting bit of trivia.


I wish I had GolTV... in fact, I wish my tv went higher than channel 70!

You can watch the game at http://ATDHE.net
Halftime
LA 2 - RSL 1

Thanks for the memories Danny...

:flare::drum::scarf::drum::flare:

[Torontotonto]

Too bad the game isn't on a channel that people actually watch.


You can watch the game at http://ATDHE.net (http://atdhe.net/)
Halftime
LA 2 - RSL 1

Thanks for the memories Danny...

:flare::drum::scarf::drum::flare:

[wzhxvy]

I predict a red card in the second half.

[SvenFlu]

It is a crazy league. 35,000 in Seattle, 7500 in New England, 11,500 in Salt Lake and now 20,000 in LA.

There's definitely more than 20,000 in the stadium. The upper decks were completely full by the 25th minute. HDC capicity is 27,000 so it's probably around there.

[wzhxvy]

wow ...talk about unforced errors on both sides...

[London]

goalllllllllllllllll!!! chivas

[wzhxvy]

"his international experience gives him the opportunity to make that save"...huh ???

[SvenFlu]

This is definitely sold out. Every camera angle where you can see the upper deck it looks full. I'm guessing attendance is going to be 27,000.

[egoodwin]

excellent timing for the screen to go black

[SvenFlu]

excellent timing for the screen to go black

http://atdhe.net/10240/watch-chivas-usa-vs-la-galaxy

[MG42]

This is definitely sold out. Every camera angle where you can see the upper deck it looks full. I'm guessing attendance is going to be 27,000.

I think I heard them say just over 25,000

[Shakes McQueen]

It is a crazy league. 35,000 in Seattle, 7500 in New England, 11,500 in Salt Lake and now 20,000 in LA.

I think New England would benefit from having a real soccer stadium to play in.

- Scott

[boban]

This is definitely sold out. Every camera angle where you can see the upper deck it looks full. I'm guessing attendance is going to be 27,000.
I don't which angles you speak of because they are far away. Also, there are enough empty seats dispersed among the lower bowl where people are sitting.

They did say 25,000, which another poster here mentioned. Consideirng the empty seats it seems a bit much, but whatever, it was a good crowd - regardless of not selling out.

[mighty_torontofc_2008]

25,000 and change not bad...although a lot of Galaxy fans seemed to make the number high..where was all the chivas fans..??

[sulfur]

LA/CHV attendance was 25,218. Just fyi.

[Super]

I don't which angles you speak of because they are far away. Also, there are enough empty seats dispersed among the lower bowl where people are sitting.

They did say 25,000, which another poster here mentioned. Consideirng the empty seats it seems a bit much, but whatever, it was a good crowd - regardless of not selling out.

Tickets sold - not butts in seat. TFC sells out every game, but towards the end of the season the stadium looked more like 80% full (sign of things to come unless the club makes significant change to management).

[Beach_Red]

Tickets sold - not butts in seat. TFC sells out every game, but towards the end of the season the stadium looked more like 80% full (sign of things to come unless the club makes significant change to management).

Don't you mean unless the team starts winning more games? Quite a few sports teams have shown changing management often does nothing (have you seen any of the protest surrounding the Cleveland Browns?). I'm a little worried, actually, that by putting all the emphasis on changing management we give ownership and the players easy excuses.

There was something in this thread earlier about the LA players getting their issues out on the open and dealing with them. Sometimes that's the only way to do it, but will it happen at TFC if it's not forced, or if there's something else to blame the problems on?

[Shakes McQueen]

I'm a little worried, actually, that by putting all the emphasis on changing management we give ownership and the players easy excuses.

I actually tend to lean that way too. I think that by focusing on MLSE and the front office so much, we are actually giving the players too big of a pass sometimes.

- Scott