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ArmenJBX
10-06-2009, 03:27 PM
Toronto FC's players trained in Oakville on Tuesday and were joined by three trialists from the Ivory Coast. ....


http://www.mlsnet.com//news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20091006&content_id=7367176&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

UltraSuperMegaMo
10-06-2009, 03:29 PM
I just saw this too. I wonder what positions they play?

ArmenJBX
10-06-2009, 03:29 PM
Knowing our team, three more midfielders.

Don Julio
10-06-2009, 03:31 PM
Wow, it's kind of late to be adding even more players.. What the hell are they doing over there!? This better be for next year.

Shaughno
10-06-2009, 03:34 PM
If they're good enough, does it matter WHEN we trial them?

UltraSuperMegaMo
10-06-2009, 03:34 PM
The roster freeze deadline has passed, so I would assume that this would have to be for next year, unless they can be signed as just train with the team.

Section 117
10-06-2009, 03:40 PM
My guess with the trend of Mo's signings it is three more center midfielders as we do not have enough already

ArmenJBX
10-06-2009, 03:42 PM
^^^
I said that too lol :P

Pigfynn
10-06-2009, 03:42 PM
Anyway to figure out where these boys play?

Roogsy
10-06-2009, 03:44 PM
If we were in the Champions League...we could use new players regardless of timing. Since that is a non-issue now, in this particular case, I am thinking this is just a chance to get to see them in action and be able to decide over the winter whether any one of them deserves a contract. Not to mention, I suppose Mo is looking at what the new CBA will do to roster size for the senior and development squads not to mention if anything will change regarding how teams make 'claims' to players.

Section 117
10-06-2009, 03:45 PM
Anyway to figure out where these boys play?


Maybe on wikipedia or maybe as John Molinaro he goes to their practices

ArmenJBX
10-06-2009, 03:45 PM
I checked, they don't exist on the internets.

Pigfynn
10-06-2009, 03:47 PM
I checked, they don't exist on the internets.


I figured that

ArmenJBX
10-06-2009, 04:05 PM
In CC's tuesday update, he said he's holding them back to prevent injury to the others...

wzhxvy
10-06-2009, 04:19 PM
The Ivory Coast has developed some of the best players in the world lately...African Champions, already qualified for the world cup and have a really really good national team with players all over Europe. If MO has been able to get 3 solid players than that is huge, I wouldnt care when he brought them in or signed them. I would expect though that scouts are all over the Ivory Coast scouting players so how did these 3 players get missed or slip through the cracks? All this to say, he is definetly looking in the right places, lets hope they are good talent that we sign.

ArmenJBX
10-06-2009, 04:57 PM
^^^
Unless they're not good enough for those other scouts but good enough for MLS.

deschamp86
10-06-2009, 05:25 PM
Couldn't find a Youssouf Mara. But I did find a Youssouf Kamara from Ivory Coast. Could possibly have just messed up the name as it is similar enough

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youssouf_Kamara

InTheCrowd
10-06-2009, 05:55 PM
The reason he's doing this now is because he thinks they're really good so he wants to sign them before anyone else does. In the article it says that people say these guys are good but besides the news of them training with TFC there's nothing on them. Who's talking about them lol. Hope they're good so we can have a full roster.

Blizzard
10-06-2009, 05:58 PM
Cummins discusses in this brief interview:
http://torontofc.neulion.com/tfc/console.jsp?catid=2&id=1297

UltraSuperMegaMo
10-06-2009, 06:16 PM
The strange thing about this is that normally, TFC has been very tight lipped about players training / trialing with the team.

boban
10-06-2009, 06:31 PM
The strange thing about this is that normally, TFC has been very tight lipped about players training / trialing with the team.
Huh?
Fans always found out about who is trialing. We can't how many who have been through Mo's door for such reasons.

UltraSuperMegaMo
10-06-2009, 06:33 PM
Huh?
Fans always found out about who is trialing. We can't how many who have been through Mo's door for such reasons.

We always found out about who was trialing with the team, but never from the official website - normally the last place to look for news and information about the team.

boban
10-06-2009, 06:36 PM
We always found out about who was trialing with the team, but never from the official website - normally the last place to look for news and information about the team.
Fair enough, but you know what? Mo's mouth is 'the team'. lol

Ossington Mental Youth
10-06-2009, 08:50 PM
im sure they are readying to rid of a few players in the off season. i highly doubt the team we have next year will consist of all the players we currently have. I bet theres at least one CB in there as well and the rest are wingers or something. was anything mentioned in the interview?

Ossington Mental Youth
10-06-2009, 08:51 PM
good to see Mo working outside of the off season to get us players, shoulda done that last year. Im guessing hes trying to cover his ass for the season this year and the lack of preparation.

AL-MO
10-06-2009, 10:47 PM
If they're good enough, does it matter WHEN we trial them?

Don't take this the wrong way Jay and I know hindsight is 20/20....but given that one of the trialist's just injured Robbo for the rest of the year I think it may have been a bad idea to bring these players in at this time.

[NBF]
10-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Robbo must have said something stupid, like in Shaft with Samuel L. Jackson when a guy is having a seizure and Christian Bale's character says, "Homeboy has some moves."

TFC07
10-06-2009, 11:08 PM
A little too late?

Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

Derko
10-07-2009, 03:40 AM
A little too late?

Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

Your optimism is an inspiration to us all,lol

InTheCrowd
10-07-2009, 06:30 AM
A little too late?

Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

This is just ridiculous.

rocker
10-07-2009, 06:44 AM
A little too late?

Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

MLS isn't Europe. We can take Europe's leftovers.

Your argument could have been made last year about Gomez and Sanyang... but they turned out to be useful in MLS.

brad
10-07-2009, 07:18 AM
Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

Good in this context is a relative term.

Are you judging TFC caliber talent based on whether or not they can play Champions League football or something?

Shaughno
10-07-2009, 07:25 AM
Don't take this the wrong way Jay and I know hindsight is 20/20....but given that one of the trialist's just injured Robbo for the rest of the year I think it may have been a bad idea to bring these players in at this time.

Shit happens. Stuff like that can happen to anyone. When you're presented with an opportunity to trial players who could be diamond's in the rough ala our Gambians, you don't wait to see if nobody will stumble across them between now and the end of the season. In my opinion of course.


A little too late?

Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

Right. So with that line of thinking, we should never have brought the Gambians in either.

ensco
10-07-2009, 07:30 AM
Shit happens. Stuff like that can happen to anyone. When you're presented with an opportunity to trial players who could be diamond's in the rough ala our Gambians, you don't wait to see if nobody will stumble across them between now and the end of the season. In my opinion of course.



Trialists are a distraction/risk for the first team in week 28 of a 30 game season. I hope Cummins was smart enough to have the Ivoirians play only against guys who aren't seeing the pitch Saturday (even though Cummins said he would do that, we know he rates Robinson highly, so I'm not sure this was the case).

Would this still be your view if it was JDG or DeRo who was out?

Shaughno
10-07-2009, 07:44 AM
Trialists are a distraction/risk for the first team in week 28 of a 30 game season. I hope Cummins was smart enough to have the Ivoirians play only against guys who aren't seeing the pitch Saturday (even though Cummins said he would do that, we know he rates Robinson highly, so I'm not sure this was the case).

Would this still be your view if it was JDG or DeRo who was out?

Would it make a difference if it was Gabe Gala or Emmanuel Gomez who did it? Shit happens in training, especially when players want to earn a spot on the team, or starting XI. It's not the first time someone's been injured in training and surely it won't be the last either.

Like I said, shit happens.

For what it's worth, this is the most accurate statement in the Robbo thread.


It is what it is.

ensco
10-07-2009, 07:55 AM
Gomez or Gala would be totally different. In that case, it is what it is.

If the Ivoirians don't get noticed today, they may be back on the streets of Abidjan in 4 days. Their level of desperation is much, much higher. Is this really a controversial point?

Shaughno
10-07-2009, 08:02 AM
And if they end up being better than Gomez and Sanyang, is it worth it? Is it worth waiting a month, in which time their agents may have already found another MLS club to sign with?

I'm just saying, IMO as a youth specialist, Cummins is going to do what he's going to do. Is Robbo's loss THAT big of a deal for us? Personally, I don't think so. He's been the worst player in DM for us this season and I think Sanyang, Cronin and JDG all do better jobs, while actually making accurate passes... something Robbo hasn't done much of this year.

maninb
10-07-2009, 08:14 AM
A little too late?

Besides, if these players were good, they wouldn't be here in Toronto right now on trial for a MLS club; They'll be playing in Europe. So I don't except much from them if they end up signing for TFC.

Or maybe they just got scooped by Mo?....Your silly statement that ALL good players only play in Europe is assinine...New England has signed several excellent players from Africa...

ensco
10-07-2009, 08:34 AM
And if they end up being better than Gomez and Sanyang, is it worth it? Is it worth waiting a month, in which time their agents may have already found another MLS club to sign with?



I'm not saying "don't trial them", I'm saying "don't play them against first teamers".

If Robbo isn't a first-teamer, then it is what it is. If Cummins was planning on using Robbo, then he has committed a very preventable error.

Shaughno
10-07-2009, 08:38 AM
I don't disagree for the most part, but sometimes you want to see how they stack up with your first teamers, and if he thought that putting them up against Robbo was better than putting them up against JDG, I can't say I disagree with his actions. We don't know enough to be attacking anyone over this IMO.

Don Julio
10-07-2009, 08:51 AM
If they're good enough, does it matter WHEN we trial them?

Well, one of them could crush the skull of one of our most important players ahead of the most important games of the year, for one.

Shaughno
10-07-2009, 08:53 AM
Well, one of them could crush the skull of one of our most important players ahead of the most important games of the year, for one.

Has Robbo really been one of our most important players this year? I honestly can't think of a game this year where I was happy with his performance.

DeRo, JDG, Guevara would be our most important players and I would put Cronin ahead of Robbo too.

JonO
10-07-2009, 09:28 AM
As usual there is criticism with little fact. From what we know, it is just as likely that it was a freak accident as it was a mistake on cummins part. Until we know more then it is what it is.

Shaughno
10-07-2009, 09:34 AM
Exactly JonO!

TFC07
10-07-2009, 11:37 AM
If the Ivoirians don't get noticed today, they may be back on the streets of Abidjan in 4 days. Their level of desperation is much, much higher. Is this really a controversial point?

EXACTLY! At least one of posters here understand my comment.

These Ivoirians aren't kids! These are grown men looking for a job.

What is their history? What clubs have they played for in the past?

TFC 420
10-07-2009, 11:53 AM
There an update on Robo on TFC's website.

http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20091007&content_id=7380046&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

wzhxvy
10-07-2009, 12:05 PM
I think its too early to comment until we know the age, positions and potential of these guys. All i am saying is Ivory Coast has produced some awesome players lately...

MUFC_Niagara
10-08-2009, 08:39 PM
This is just ridiculous.

He's had a couple of doozies today.