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jloome
08-24-2009, 11:29 AM
1) Evaluate and re-evaluate the players' shortcomings so far.
a) DeRo has lots of technical ability to get past defenders and can finish,
particularly around the box. Long range shooting has been hideous,
crossing marginal. Often holds onto the ball for too long and plays with his
head down, causing our offence to stutter.

Best option: He's a good scorer but a selfish player. We should play him as
a striker at all times; out wide, he can border on disastrous. In the hole,
he's pretty good, but doesn't feed particularly good short balls and holds
onto it for too long.

b) Gerba - Has movement issues, looks and moves a bit unfit, turns well off a player's shoulder; Is a good striker partner when playing two up top in a 4-4-2.

c) White - Still tough to say. Creates space for himself. Moves well laterally off the ball. Hasn't found a knack yet for creating seams between
defenders. Can shoot. Is tall enoguh at 6'2 to be a scoring target man.

d) Barrett - Can beat defenders, very quick first step, can cross, but not
accurately, often leaves it short. Can't hit the broad site of a barn. Links up well on short passing plays. Tackles poorly. Crossing isn't good enough to start him wide, shooting isn't good enough to start him up top. Best option would be as a hole/link player behind a single striker up top or used as a backup only.

e) Vitti. Fantastic dribbling, but again has trouble with shooting and his release is slow. Good lateral movement to create space. Don't know how well he crosses. Might be a wing option. can't play up top and isn't a good enough two-way player to stay in the mid. Play him in the hole, or wide. If he can't play wide, he' either a hole player or a bench player (and as much as Love his techical skill, a release candidate, based on overall value versus salary.)

f) Guevara. Very good technical play and reading of the game, but a lazy
player. He hogs the ball going forward and looks for the "perfect" play,
but has too much confidence in his own skills and gets stripped a lot. Has
days when he performs well as a two-way midfielder but is generally not
reliable enough to be the starter in that respect. If we played with two up
top or a diamond with two strikers and a hole player, he's an option as the
hole guy, same as Vitti and Barrett.

g) Cronin. Right now, far and away our strongest midfielder. He delivers
good long balls, good through balls, good crosses, he tackles moderately
well and his movement/coverage is good. His crossing is so fine, he could
play on the right wing, or as right back. Could also play as right central
mid, going two ways but primarily feeding offensive players.

h) Robinson - Good tackler. Good energy and hustle. Mediocre passer (not
horrible, as recent games have suggested); is streaky. Poor positionally
lately, trying to cover too much ground and being caught up too often.
Panicky distribution lately. Does not marshall the team; temper gets the
better of him.

i) Sanyang - Young, storng, very atheltic, moves well off the ball, reads the game very, very quickly -- perhaps too quickly, as he's been caught out of position a couple of times. But on the whole, a very good prospect. Some concern that he mught be overly aggressive and one-dimensional, although he's keyed a couple of forward moves as well.

j) Jimmy Brennan - Decent winger, gets forward well, crosses very well, cuts isnide well and plays off other players well. Lousy fullback.

k) Gala - Very slight; quick. HAven't seen much of him, but his balance is
exceptional, as evidenced in his first year, when he held off a (Red Bulls?)
defender even though he was being pushed downDon't know what he can do defensively. Tough to peg him at this point. Perhaps a good winger.

l) Adrian Serioux - Good tackler, good passer, reacts slowly to the game
around him and sometimes reads the other team's movement poorly. First
step is quite slow, has a tendency to come in a bit aggressively. Good in a three back line or the second-centre half if his parnter is quick, experienced and strong.

m) Nick Garcia - Seriously overrated right now. Backward movement is very poor, slow first step and poor turn, is easily muscled off the ball and on the shoulder. Reads the game well, communicates well, tackles well. Speed, age and size conspire to make him a liability more ofthen than not.

n) Leslie Fellinga. Who knows? Too early too say.

o) Nana Attakora. Very good positionally, very strong.
Decent-but-not-great in the air. Very solid tackler. Marking is superb, speed is deceptively good. Distribution is mixed and should be watched. Good prospects as a starting centre half, less so as fullback but could fit it in a pinch.

p) Marvell Wynne - Fast as hell, better at interplay that he's given credit
for, shooting favours accuracy over power. Crossing hasn't looked
particularly strong. Positionally weak. Tends to drift inside too much and
hang too far forward. Marks up well, but then tend to lose his man and ball
watch. Tackling has been marginal. Decent wing back, maybe even a winger not-so-good fullback.

q) Danny Dichio - has been used as such an afterthought I almost forgot
about him. I suspect his concussion issues may be having an impact now on playing ability in that he'll go out there even if he shouldn't, but team might not let him. If that's not the case, then he's still our best target forward by a considerable margin and one of our best finishers. Not mobile. Should have a playing partner. Doesn't play well at the top of a 'v' offense, due to poor speed, but plays well in a 442 as a traditional hold-it-up-and-dish-it guy. Finishes very well.

r) Stefan Frei -- Good reactions, good reads, good positioning, good
distribution. Is too slow coming for balls into the box, tentantive. Isn't helped much by defense. Needs more upper body strength to muscle through to ball in the box.

t) Emmanuel Gomez - Almost forgot Gomez! Good tackler, good ball skills
and movement for a defender. needs to put some bulk onto his frame.
Aerial skills look decent. Makes overconfident decisiosn sometimes, takes
risks. Good prospect as a centre half. Might need to start him, even though he's not ready.

2) Eliminate or mitigate the impact of the weakenesses.
Here are some of obvious problems.

a) Our offensive "skill" players have conflicting roles and are individualists.
That means we'll score some goals, but our time of possession will be
poorer, and we'll require "brilliant moments" to get our goals.

b) Our starting midfield has never worked well together. Guevara is just too one-dimensionally offensive and suffers from "carry the team" disease. He's too inconsistent. Robinson's positional play is already suspect and declines when he has to cover for behind Amado. His tackling is good, but he's prone to overaggression.

c) Our wide play is limited, not by our wide options so much as by the lack
of any height or aerial skill inside the box outside of Danny D.

d) Defensively, our supposed starters are only marginally up for the task. I
would say Garcia is done, well past his prime. Serioux is a second centre
half, but well better than Garcia. He whines like a fucking girl, though.

e) We're tactically incohesive, for a variety of reasons, but largely just due to the combined nature of those individual player faults.

3) Here are some proposed
.
a) Adopt a stable backline system. The offensive end can vary depending on what the other team is doing. But our defensive record and lack of quality in depth suggests we need to keep things straightforward back there. At the same time, the general scarcity of overall wide players suggests playing wide backs instead of midfielders.

So, we play a 3-man backline. We bench Garcia, and respect that Serioux
and Attakora read the game better than Gomez at this point, while Gomez
has the obvious advantage in the air:

At fullback, Marvell has too many offensive pluses to leave out, and
his positonal faults are correctable (and have been gettign better as this
season has progressed.) Plus, we need cronin inside.
On the other side, Jim Brennan is a better mid than full, but would be less exposed with a flat back
three.

In the midfield, the Amado/Robbo duo has never been able to hold up the
ball to create more tempo and possession. Guevara is caught forward too
much and I believe age is catching up with him somewhat, limiting him to mainly being offensive. Robbo's positioning and passing this season has been atrocious. Plus, neither man is good in the air, allowing teams to switch fields/headman on us with impunity.

Meanwhile, the best passer on the team right now is cronin, who is being
used as a utility player wherever need. Put him in the midfield as the creativ midfielder, allowed to play both ways.

Amadou Sanyang is hella tall, as well as being mobile and athletic. He
covers as much or more ground that Robbo, is faster, and passes better.
He may be more rash, but his list of positives over Robbo outweights his
negatives. Plus, he looks good in the air
.
I'd play Cronin, the two-way player, on the same side as Wynne, to force
win to track back more and expose him more. He needs to be pushed into
doing it right, and that's easier when he already has Attakora behind him
as cover. If you put Sanyang on that side, he can cover for Wynne, but will end up doing it repeatedly and screwing up our midfield holding.
That leave us with three offensive positions. We change these up , but given that DeRo is only really effective right now as a striker (and I suspect that's his future), the most sensible would be a diamond.

-----------------------Frei--------------------------
------Attakora----Gomez----Serioux------------
Wynne------------------------------------Brennan
-----------------Cronin-----Sanyang---------------
-----------------------Vitti--------------------------
--------------DeRosario----Dichio-----------------

jloome
08-24-2009, 11:30 AM
i) I would never put Guevara and DeRo on the pitch at the same time.
They're both terrible ball hogs and that arrogance can hurt when not
properly channelled.
ii) Vitti is a better option in the whole than Amado, as he plays relatively
unselfishly, trying to penetrate but also trying to create with other players.
iii) Gerba would come on for Dero, White would come on for Dichio.

4) Get them on the same page. It's time for a non "player's coach", a
tactician and technician who drills responsibilities into his team, so at the
very least, we always look like we're not going down without a fight. Half
the time right now, the players don't look like they know what they're
supposed to be doing.

5) In terms of realistic staff moves, I believe Amado's contract is up this year
and I wouldn't renew. I'd release Barrett or trade him; if that contract is
guaranteed, we could try and loan him to get the salary off the books, at
least. Garcia should be waived at the end of the season, as shoudl Vitti,
whose salary is simply too high (unless he can be resigned for a lower fee,
perhaps in the $160,000 ballpark).
I would also see what's out there for interest in Wynne. It's worth gambling
at this point that he isn't going to be good enough to be a long-term euro
prospect and move him regardless of the potential lost transfer. 1) We
might get a lower-level, i.e. league one or championship level, Euro team
interested or 2) we might get a package of good MLS returns from another
team that woudl strrengthn multiple areas. One, obviously, would have to
be a good defensive fullback and another a winger, or the money for one.
I'd look at releasing Robbo, hard as that would be. That kind of salary
carries massive potential in a moneyball league like MLS.
The saved wages (considerable) could be put towards some team-oriented,
hard-nosed, MLS style players.

Davenport
08-24-2009, 11:38 AM
-----------------------Frei--------------------------
------Attakora----Gomez----Serioux------------
Wynne------------------------------------Brennan
-----------------Cronin-----Sanyang---------------
-----------------------Vitti--------------------------
--------------DeRosario----Dichio-----------------

You wouldn't be in charge long.
Wynne can't play.
Brennan's legs have gone.
Vitti either holds onto the ball too long or gives it away....almost every time he gets it.
Dichio's legs have gone and can't jump.

prizby
08-24-2009, 12:08 PM
seems like every pregame thread people post their dream line up...now we have a thread dedicated to this?

trane
08-24-2009, 12:09 PM
jlomme, I agree I may put Gerba instead of Dichio, not that I think he is better, but it seems clear that he can only play limited minutes. I would like to play Barret on the wing, but I am not confident in him defensively. But three at the back, the three you indicate seem the natural move and is Cronin Sanyang and Vitti.

Parkdale
08-24-2009, 12:16 PM
seems like every pregame thread people post their dream line up...now we have a thread dedicated to this?

yeah, just jloome is way more thorough than most.

prizby
08-24-2009, 12:21 PM
-----------Edwards------------
Wynne-Attakora-Gomez-Fellinga
-----------Sanyang------------
Vitti--------Cronin---------Gala
---------OBW--Ibrahim--------

nuff said

probably the best starting line up we could put out

BleedRed
08-24-2009, 12:58 PM
-----------------------Frei--------------------------
------Attakora----Gomez----Serioux------------
Wynne------------------------------------Brennan
-----------------Cronin-----Sanyang---------------
-----------------------Vitti--------------------------
--------------DeRosario----Dichio-----------------

You wouldn't be in charge long.
Wynne can't play.
Brennan's legs have gone.
Vitti either holds onto the ball too long or gives it away....almost every time he gets it.
Dichio's legs have gone and can't jump.

So you would leave Wynne, Brennan, Vitti and Dichio on the bench?????

billyfly
08-24-2009, 01:02 PM
I'll borrow a line from the military...

"Kill everyone, let God sort em out".

Roogsy
08-24-2009, 01:08 PM
seems like every pregame thread people post their dream line up...now we have a thread dedicated to this?

I actually don't mind it. Jeremy puts a lot of thoughts into his analysis unlike many posters in this forum who just say things like "Vitti is shit!".

If you like reading breakdowns on players, jloome offers a lot.

Parkdale
08-24-2009, 01:17 PM
You wake up tomorrow and....you are in charge

I'd roll over and go back to bed. I'm in charge... you can all wait.

scots17
08-24-2009, 01:22 PM
first things first........CHEERLEADERS, lol (had too!)

cue the pics haha

prizby
08-24-2009, 01:37 PM
I actually don't mind it. Jeremy puts a lot of thoughts into his analysis unlike many posters in this forum who just say things like "Vitti is shit!".

If you like reading breakdowns on players, jloome offers a lot.


i agree, but my eyes hurt after reading all that lol

grizzle
08-24-2009, 01:51 PM
Do some serious team-building work because lately it seems like their are too many trying to be the hero and not enough focus on working as a team.

Oldtimer
08-24-2009, 01:52 PM
Here's what I'd do:

(1) Raise the price of beer 10%. After all, I want a good performance evaluation :lol:
(2) Hire John Limniatiis as defense coach. Yes, a coach dedicated solely to our defense.
(3) Bring back Chris Pozniak for cheap depth, which every MLS squad needs.

Detroit_TFC
08-24-2009, 02:05 PM
First off, I would fire myself, because I'm just a fan and not an experienced football manager. Then it would be someone else's problem and I could go back to bitching about the team sucking.

FluSH
08-24-2009, 02:06 PM
I make DICHIO BOSS

SilverSamurai
08-24-2009, 02:08 PM
Here's what I'd do:

(1) Raise the price of beer 10%. After all, I want a good performance evaluation :lol:
(2) Hire John Limniatiis as defense coach. Yes, a coach dedicated solely to our defense.
(3) Bring back Chris Pozniak for cheap depth, which every MLS squad needs.
The last 2 would make sense although you might have to steal both of them...

Candu_88
08-24-2009, 02:14 PM
Great post and analysis Jloome. 3-5-2 with wingbacks has won several world cups and it dominates 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 and as a youth coach this formation has worked best for me. Tactically if the opponents play 4-5-1 then one of the three central defenders moves up to be a midfield sweeper. This is a valid formation that best matches TFC's unbalanced squad.

The only thing I slightly question is Robbo. Positionally he helps the defensive shape which has been awful for three years now but it pulls him out of his role. However you rate him as a good tackler but I don't. Way too many times has he been easily dribbled around and he clearly lacks the ball winning ability needed for a holding midfielder.

CC is great with youth development but clearly he lacks the tactical nous both pre-game and in game for the head coach role.

prizby
08-24-2009, 04:58 PM
^CC is also good around the microphone

SilverSamurai
08-24-2009, 05:24 PM
--- And then I realize I'm only in charge because I'm playing FIFA Manager '10. :p

Brooker
08-24-2009, 06:19 PM
rip out every seat in the stadium.

allow people to BYOB.

build a Danny Dichio statue outside gate 3.

every 5th person through gate 3 gets a flare.

hire somebody who knows how to run a football team.

give average players from europe MLS type "contracts" but meet them in dark alleys to give them a bag full of their real salary to get around the DP rule.

flatpicker
08-24-2009, 06:25 PM
If I wake up tomorrow and I am in charge... then we are all fucked!

FluSH
08-24-2009, 06:26 PM
^^^
Danny Dichio Statue outside of gate 3!!! how come I didn't think of that!!!

Fushida
08-24-2009, 07:06 PM
That was a very insightful analysis IMO. I don't agree with it all but its nice to have someone craft some well thought out points from carefully watchin the game rather than have player performances based on biased and usually unfounded opinions on the player.

ie.
"Wynne can't play" -> since he came back from GC duty, Wynne has been one of our best players... :facepalm:
"Brennan's legs have gone." -> and who do you suggest be his replacement? he's also pretty fast IIRC, faster than OBW at least :rolleyes:
"Vitti either holds onto the ball too long or gives it away....almost every time he gets it." -> i don't think so... if you actually watched the game you won't think so either.
"Dichio's legs have gone and can't jump." -> maybe true, but you're clearly missing the point :facepalm:

That aside..

Fellinga is an unknown quantity, so I won't put him ahead of Brennan just yet.

Anyone putting OBW in our starting XI needs a reality check. His only two real appearances have left much to be desired. I don't really see where this "making space" and good off the ball comments are coming from, because it hasn't happened. All I see is him in front of defenders signalling for a ball when he's clearly covered. Doubt he'd make a good targetman just yet as his passing is sloppy and weak, but at least he likes to play it simple. However I think Barrett creates far more chances for himself and others in that role. (short version - no, i don't like OBW from what I've seen, and he sure as hell isn't the playoff answer.)

I like the 3-5-2 that was put out. I think it would work with Gomez and Attakora, who are both fast and can prevent trademark Garcia breakaways when Wynne and Brennan go up. However like someone mentioned, Gerba is probably a better alternative to Danny. He seems to work well with DeRo, and can last a bit longer out there than Danny can. Not to mention's the only other guy (apart from DeRo) who can shoot with power in this team. (Barrett-esque shots into orbit don't count, besides he's been shooting less this year)

I fully agree that Cronin should be employed as a creative midfielder. He's unselfish and knows whats going on around him. I haven't seen him link up with Guevara, and I wonder what that'd be like. Sanyang has been energetic, but I haven't really had a great look at him from my vantage at the games. I think Vitti in the hole is debatable, but can work. He's a bit of an enigma, because as much as I like him, he doesn't always make great decisions on the ball.

Shakes McQueen
08-24-2009, 07:12 PM
So, we know what jloome did with his lunch break today, haha. :D

- Scott

flatpicker
08-24-2009, 07:36 PM
build a Danny Dichio statue outside gate 3.



substitute for Danny Dichio!

:D

http://www.ronsaari.com/stockImages/philadelphia/RockyStatue.jpg

RedsYNWA
08-24-2009, 07:58 PM
Shut her down and cash in on the resale to Molsons

prizby
08-24-2009, 08:02 PM
if i was manager,

relocate until the city PUT IN GRASS!!!

SilverSamurai
08-24-2009, 08:04 PM
rip out every seat in the stadium.

allow people to BYOB.

build a Danny Dichio statue outside gate 3.

every 5th person through gate 3 gets a flare.

hire somebody who knows how to run a football team.

give average players from europe MLS type "contracts" but meet them in dark alleys to give them a bag full of their real salary to get around the DP rule.
You sir are a visionary. :scarf:

kodiakTFC
08-24-2009, 08:18 PM
I would resign. I really don't think i'm properly qualified for this job!

ensco
08-24-2009, 08:32 PM
Love the thread. Good insight on DeRo/Guevara problem. Agree with much of the player analyses, except....

Brennan and Robinson - both are done. They've both lost a step and have developed glaring limitations as a result.

Vitti - lots of panache out near the center line, almost never shows it in close quarters in or near the box (that blast in Columbus was a notable exception, I know). Involved in only 3 goals all season (two goals, one assist)! That's ridiculous! I wouldn't re-sign him at all. You can't cut a 23 year old's salary in half without demoralizing the guy.

Barrett - I would bring him back as a winger or forward in a 4-3-3. OBW and Gerba are not sure things. Many of Chad's crosses would have worked with Dichio on the field.

Shakes McQueen
08-24-2009, 09:03 PM
Love the thread. Good insight on DeRo/Guevara problem. Agree with much of the player analyses, except....

Brennan and Robinson - both are done. They've both lost a step and have developed glaring limitations as a result.

Vitti - lots of panache out near the center line, almost never shows it in close quarters in or near the box (that blast in Columbus was a notable exception, I know). Involved in only 3 goals all season (two goals, one assist)! That's ridiculous! I wouldn't re-sign him at all. You can't cut a 23 year old's salary in half without demoralizing the guy.

Barrett - I would bring him back as a winger or forward in a 4-3-3. OBW and Gerba are not sure things. Many of Chad's crosses would have worked with Dichio on the field.

I agree with this 100%

- Scott

jloome
08-24-2009, 09:13 PM
Love the thread. Good insight on DeRo/Guevara problem. Agree with much of the player analyses, except....

Brennan and Robinson - both are done. They've both lost a step and have developed glaring limitations as a result.

Vitti - lots of panache out near the center line, almost never shows it in close quarters in or near the box (that blast in Columbus was a notable exception, I know). Involved in only 3 goals all season (two goals, one assist)! That's ridiculous! I wouldn't re-sign him at all. You can't cut a 23 year old's salary in half without demoralizing the guy.

Barrett - I would bring him back as a winger or forward in a 4-3-3. OBW and Gerba are not sure things. Many of Chad's crosses would have worked with Dichio on the field.

Don't think Brennan's done. He's just done enough that his backtracking and wide marking are both insufficient. Still makes him a good option if going forward is the bigger priority. Long-term, yes, we need another option. But this was an "if I woke up tomorrow," so that's what I'd do with limited options.

Chad's crossing is not a technique issue, it's a control issue, as with his finishing. He leaves many of them short of the near post or well over the far post. Some of the latter Danny might pick up , but it's unlikely. Either way, long-term, he's not contributing even close to his salary.

As for Vitti, I suggest the hole as he's unselfish, which is why he does very little around the box. Too unselfish. He needs a role that suits his skill set but forces him to play with testicles. You might be right about the motivation after a big salary cut, though. I don't imagine we'll see him next year, so maybe Amado is a better option there; but then we run into the problem of he and DeRo competing for who can "take over the game."

Robbo, I have a hard time arguing against your point. He looks just a step slow everywhere this year, and he's trying tomake up for it, somewhat disastrously, by covering more physical ground.

Our central mid is a mess.

(sorry about the length, by the way, although I had to cut out all the witty banter up top and stretch the thread. The original was 4,000 characters too long for the forum's 10,000 character limit.)

ensco
08-24-2009, 09:16 PM
I agree with this 100%

- Scott

Thanks. I genuinely appreciate that.

TFCtoMUFC
08-24-2009, 09:16 PM
Give out free flares, as well as sell fireworks at the stores around BMO.

Put my name in the sponsor's spot on the jersey.

Let people keep the cap on drinks they are bringing in.

Hire someone to do something at half (that guy last week was horrible, he didn't deserve the 1000 he won).

Put stands in the north end and put the beer garden on a second elevated level.

Retire the number 9 at the end of the season.

Put stands right down to pitch level.

Work the franchise around Stefan Frei and Sam Cronin.

Hand Pablo Vitti a one-way ticket to Argentina and throw in cab fare cause im a nice guy.

Put in grass.

Get an MMA fighter on my team to take red cards at the end of games by beating the tar out of guys.

Get some sweet swag for the team.

ensco
08-24-2009, 09:23 PM
I forgot one thing. Give Gala some real minutes.

The guy beat a world class defender (Pepe, I think) to a loose ball and scored against Real Freaking Madrid.

ilikemusic
08-24-2009, 09:27 PM
If I wake up tomorrow in charge the first thing I do is fire Cummins and MoJo and throw whatever amount of money is necessary at New England to get Steve Nicol and Paul Mariner to take over as GM and head coach.

SilverSamurai
08-24-2009, 09:28 PM
I'd get Bimbo as the team sponsor. And have some bimbo chicks are cheerleaders OUTSIDE the grounds to gain attention.
They'd also go to the visiting teams hotel and pull the fire alarm at 2-4 and 5:30am.

The fire alarms would also apply to any CMNT games nationwide.

anto7
08-24-2009, 09:30 PM
Very good analysis JLoome , you obviously put lots of thought into this and I agree with most of what you wrote. Too bad some others on here do not take the time to think before they post.

Shakes McQueen
08-24-2009, 09:32 PM
Thanks. I genuinely appreciate that.

It's extremely difficult to discern when you're being sarcastic, and when you're being serious, haha.

- Scott

TFCtoMUFC
08-24-2009, 09:35 PM
Actually maybe I would make the sponsor Pfizer but tell them I want to say Viagra.

ensco
08-24-2009, 09:54 PM
It's extremely difficult to discern when you're being sarcastic, and when you're being serious, haha.

- Scott

Sorry, man, I really do mean it! It's hard to separate the post from the poster, which you are obviously able to do. I have real respect for that. :hump:

I went after you yesterday because I'm a bit of a fanatic about the grass thing, I've had 100s of posts on it over two plus years, and I have a very specific idea about how it's playing out.

I'm often wrong, but never in doubt! :D

Shakes McQueen
08-24-2009, 10:05 PM
Sorry, man, I really do mean it! It's hard to separate the post from the poster, which you are obviously able to do. I have real respect for that. :hump:

I went after you yesterday because I'm a bit of a fanatic about the grass thing, I've had 100s of posts on it over two plus years, and I have a very specific idea about how it's playing out.

I'm often wrong, but never in doubt! :D

Of course, I never try to take anything personal, or go after anyone as a person. After all, we are all ultimately after the same things - success for the team, better leadership, a grass playing surface - whatever our small disagreements on methods, etc. :D

- Scott

kodiakTFC
08-24-2009, 11:17 PM
Put my name in the sponsor's spot on the jersey.



I hope TD bank sponsors Montreal so they can feel our irony as well.

Ossington Mental Youth
08-25-2009, 12:16 AM
Some good thoughts in this thread.
I definitely agree with our older senior players starting to show their age and id like to see more of our youths play instead of them, especially after that DC and Chivas games. I wish i could contribute more but at this second i think every point has been covered.

jloome
08-25-2009, 01:16 PM
Some good thoughts in this thread.
I definitely agree with our older senior players starting to show their age and id like to see more of our youths play instead of them, especially after that DC and Chivas games. I wish i could contribute more but at this second i think every point has been covered.

I'd like to know what the average MLSE exec really thinks. But I've been around corporate environments for long enough to know we'll never hear that side of things.

It's also worth considering at this point that the kind of profitable approach to developing sell-on talent that Mo has taken pretty much guarantees that, whatever internal politics and poor decisions are doing to the onfield product, he'll be the guy really making these decisions for a long time to come, regardless of who's officially standing behind the bench.

ensco
08-25-2009, 01:39 PM
I'd like to know what the average MLSE exec really thinks. But I've been around corporate environments for long enough to know we'll never hear that side of things.


Let me help you with that.

Whatever he was told in the last conversation he had with someone else in the industry, is what the average MLSE exec thinks. He pays zero attention to what his own guys say.

You're welcome.

jloome
08-25-2009, 04:35 PM
Let me help you with that.

Whatever he was told in the last conversation he had with someone else in the industry, is what the average MLSE exec thinks. He pays zero attention to what his own guys say.

You're welcome.


You heartless cynic. I mean what he think thinks, not what he effectively thinks.

Hitcho
08-25-2009, 05:04 PM
Start Dichio.

Job done.

ensco
08-25-2009, 07:54 PM
You heartless cynic. I mean what he think thinks, not what he effectively thinks.

I'm skeptical, not cynical!

He doesn't have his own opinion. What he trades in is trying to sound like he develops cutting edge insight before his boss does. If this means you wind up with six different views over the same topic over a 12 month period, so be it (so long as the boss doesn't see it)