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Red CB Toronto
08-05-2009, 04:11 AM
http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/46/da/0e8726064dbab449a8fefef32849.jpeg

Here is a pic of the grass being installed at BMO in advance of Friday nights game against Spanish powerhouse Real Madrid. It will be interesting to see BMO with a canvas that cows would enjoy to eat look, these temporary natural turfs have not always held up well when taking a pounding like they do during a game of footy. Go Reds

tml
08-05-2009, 07:31 AM
the good thing is that the temps will be just right & the grass should hold up.

Nuvinho
08-05-2009, 07:41 AM
that doesn't look like much padding under there....won't it be like falling on concrete.

BoltonTFC
08-05-2009, 07:50 AM
Thanks for the grass ML$E. Can't wait to see it in the next league match at home.....oh wait...nevermind.

Limani_Ole
08-05-2009, 09:10 AM
yeah way to waste money on a meaningless game.. Id rather see it go to the training facility

but I guess the temptation to make a quick buck is too strong..
It seems the long term growth of the game/team isnt a priority for MLSE.. but the quick buck is..

Krasno.pL.
08-05-2009, 09:13 AM
Real madrid is wasting the money for the grass..

Don Julio
08-05-2009, 09:18 AM
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/redbar/editor/separator.gifReal Madrid is paying for the grass. The bitterness is getting old quickly.

fetajr
08-05-2009, 09:21 AM
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/redbar/editor/separator.gifReal Madrid is paying for the grass. The bitterness is getting old quickly.

But we're paying for Real Madrid, right?

ilikemusic
08-05-2009, 09:21 AM
Its so inspiring to see grass coming in for the games that really matter.

:facepalm:

Rudi
08-05-2009, 09:25 AM
It seems the long term growth of the game/team isnt a priority for MLSE.. but the quick buck is..
Perhaps they are interested in both.

grizzle
08-05-2009, 10:02 AM
http://img299.yfrog.com/img299/4640/x3r.jpg

Nuvinho
08-05-2009, 10:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3L8nGwRhvg

video of BMO

I tried to enbed a youtube clip, didn't work, so just click on the above link :)

MG42
08-05-2009, 10:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3L8nGwRhvg

video of BMO

I tried to enbed a youtube clip, didn't work, so just click on the above link :)

G3L8nGwRhvg

robert32
08-05-2009, 10:28 AM
http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20090805&content_id=6256936&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

boban
08-05-2009, 10:37 AM
yeah way to waste money on a meaningless game.. Id rather see it go to the training facility

but I guess the temptation to make a quick buck is too strong..
Holy contradiction.

boban
08-05-2009, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the grass ML$E. Can't wait to see it in the next league match at home.....oh wait...nevermind.
What is the point of this post?
This game is the best thing that has happened in defense of our argument for a full time natural grass pitch at the stadium.

DangerRed
08-05-2009, 10:39 AM
Wow you guys are a sour fucking bunch. Can't wait for Friday. I have great seats!

robert32
08-05-2009, 10:41 AM
Same!! Centre Field row 11

boban
08-05-2009, 10:42 AM
http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20090805&content_id=6256936&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280
Kinda sucks how it works out but the lacrosee boys get to play a real game on it, but not TFC. :(

Eastend
08-05-2009, 10:42 AM
that doesn't look like much padding under there....won't it be like falling on concrete.

The turf is underneath that black tarp.....lots of cussion.

Carts
08-05-2009, 10:48 AM
How much $$ do you think MLSE will sell pieces of the grass for after the game...? LOL

(I joke I joke!!!)

Carts....

DangerRed
08-05-2009, 10:50 AM
How much $$ do you think MLSE will sell pieces of the grass for after the game...? LOL

(I joke I joke!!!)

Carts....

No joke, it's been talked about. I think Beirne did an interview somewhere or other saying that it would be a cool souvenir.

Super
08-05-2009, 10:51 AM
Shame it won't hold long enough for us to play on it against DC. That would've been great.

mastermixer
08-05-2009, 11:45 AM
The turf is underneath that black tarp.....lots of cussion.

Great... I'm sure the turf will look extra shitty once they remove the grass. But its worth padding MLSE pockets right? :facepalm:

MUFC_Niagara
08-05-2009, 12:19 PM
What is the point of this post?
This game is the best thing that has happened in defense of our argument for a full time natural grass pitch at the stadium.

+1.....although I am against the mid-season friendly, I agree withyouon this. The players will talk about howmuch better it was to play on grass and the media will lap it up.....the pressure will be on MLSE after this.

H Bomb
08-05-2009, 12:22 PM
what pressure though. There's nothing tangible about that. I hope you are right but it seems to me your giving the benefit of the doubt to a corporation*...and that wont get you anywhere

One with a really shitty and well earned reputation

__wowza
08-05-2009, 12:28 PM
these threads make me grin.
it started off nicely enough with the picture, i did find that interesting, and then it quickly went downhill.

Nuvinho
08-05-2009, 12:31 PM
^ it has video too ;)

Rudi
08-05-2009, 12:37 PM
what pressure though. There's nothing tangible about that. I hope you are right but it seems to me your giving the benefit of the doubt to a corporation*...and that wont get you anywhere

One with a really shitty and well earned reputation
Reputation regarding what, though?

If you're talking about the sporting side, fine. But when it comes to their facilities, MLSE has shown that they will consistently spend money.

Now before anyone jumps in tells me that MLSE got cheap with BMO Field and should have built a better stadium, well there are a ton of factors that prevented that from happening (miore than simply "ML$E is cheap lolz0rs"), and this isn't what I'm arguing.

At the ACC, the ice was once considered the worst (or one of the worst) in the entire NHL. This was due to the arena's proxmity to the lake and the humidity levels that that proximty brings. MLSE spent millions upgrading the ice and installing new dehumidifiers to improve the situation, and since then there have been no compaints about the ice.

There are parallels between the ACC ice situation and the grass issue at BMO.

If anything MLSE tries to provide the best facilities for its teams (but obviously on the personnel/management side they've been far from successful), and that's why I believe the grass situation will be improved soner rather than later.

Also, they've shown that they are very image conscious. At the ACC, they installed a brand new scoreboard/sound system that cost them millions and represents no direct return for that investment (monetarily-wise). The shitty state of the turf is an image problem for TFC, another reason why I believe it will be a high priority for the suits on Bay and Lakeshore.

Again, none of what I said speaks to the sporting side of the equation. Their record in that regard is what it is.

Toronto Ruffrider
08-05-2009, 12:38 PM
What is the point of this post?
This game is the best thing that has happened in defense of our argument for a full time natural grass pitch at the stadium.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of mid-season friendlies, but I'm eager to see how this temporary pitch affects the club's push for a permanent grass surface. In my opinion, the precedent has been set, and the club will switch to grass sooner as a result.

mighty_torontofc_2008
08-05-2009, 12:52 PM
Wow you guys are a sour fucking bunch. Can't wait for Friday. I have great seats!


me too..i look forward to this game..how many times does a club like Real Madrid come to town....this match is IMHO more important then the Islanders match, this could get us some credibilty in the football world
with a shock win ir a draw....

Belfast_Boy
08-05-2009, 01:00 PM
these threads make me grin.
it started off nicely enough with the picture, i did find that interesting, and then it quickly went downhill.

me too! I saw it earlier and thought I'd leave it alone till it got funny. maybe something about grass being rolled....
but it got all serious!

TFC Cityboy
08-05-2009, 01:03 PM
me too..i look forward to this game..how many times does a club like Real Madrid come to town....this match is IMHO more important then the Islanders match, this could get us some credibilty in the football world
with a shock win ir a draw....
and what will an embarassing 9-0 defeat do?
just sayin'
:)

TicTacTabarnack
08-05-2009, 01:14 PM
http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20090805&content_id=6256936&vkey=news_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

Interesting ...

An investment of around $250,000 has been made to install the grass for the friendly and plans are still progressing to change the turf for grass on a permanent basis. "To do a proper field that would have a proper heating system and would be entirely aerated would cost around $3.5 million. The labour strike caused a delay at City Hall but we are hoping to move forward soon. We are firstly dealing with Exhibition Place and we hope to be at the Council meeting in late September or October. There are four partners in the ownership and because this stadium was built for community use, we have to provide an alternative for that and get the other parties to agree."

Jay P
08-05-2009, 01:16 PM
me too..i look forward to this game..how many times does a club like Real Madrid come to town....this match is IMHO more important then the Islanders match, this could get us some credibilty in the football world
with a shock win ir a draw....


a chad barrett hat trick and we could sell him to Real after the match for $40 million


:scarf::scarf::scarf::scarf::hump::hump::hump:

Carts
08-05-2009, 01:17 PM
Interesting ...

An investment of around $250,000 has been made to install the grass for the friendly and plans are still progressing to change the turf for grass on a permanent basis. "To do a proper field that would have a proper heating system and would be entirely aerated would cost around $3.5 million. The labour strike caused a delay at City Hall but we are hoping to move forward soon. We are firstly dealing with Exhibition Place and we hope to be at the Council meeting in late September or October. There are four partners in the ownership and because this stadium was built for community use, we have to provide an alternative for that and get the other parties to agree."

It was said somewhere that the RM game would net MLSE a $3-Million profit...

If this RM game, allowed the TFC Money men to convince MLSE to sign the cheques to build a proper grass pitch - would people still be upset with the RM game...

Trying to think of the glass half full. Mid-season friendly, high ticket prices - but next season the pitch is "real" thanks to "Real"... ;)

Carts...

Nuvinho
08-05-2009, 01:18 PM
a chad barrett hat trick and we could sell him to Real after the match for $40 million


:scarf::scarf::scarf::scarf::hump::hump::hump:

We'll throw in Velez for another $5M.

TheRenter
08-05-2009, 01:20 PM
me too..i look forward to this game..how many times does a club like Real Madrid come to town....this match is IMHO more important then the Islanders match, this could get us some credibilty in the football world
with a shock win ir a draw....

lmao.....yeah okay sure!

I agree with the madrid being here portion, but this is a meaningless match which TFC should not be involved with, other than the venue....meaning; it should be two teams like madrid vs. juventus, and not vs. us.

you saying that, "this match is IMHO more important then the Islanders match," is utterly ridiculous

peace

Carts
08-05-2009, 01:21 PM
We'll throw in Velez for another $5M.

Toss is Velez for Ronaldo's jersey...

Carts...

TicTacTabarnack
08-05-2009, 01:23 PM
It was said somewhere that the RM game would net MLSE a $3-Million profit...

If this RM game, allowed the TFC Money men to convince MLSE to sign the cheques to build a proper grass pitch - would people still be upset with the RM game...

Trying to think of the glass half full. Mid-season friendly, high ticket prices - but next season the pitch is "real" thanks to "Real"... ;)

Carts...

I must say ... they're really good at doing that! How much did the get the stadium naming rights for which they quickly pawned off to BMO for a sweet & quick return?

TicTacTabarnack
08-05-2009, 01:29 PM
me too..i look forward to this game..how many times does a club like Real Madrid come to town....this match is IMHO more important then the Islanders match, this could get us some credibilty in the football world
with a shock win ir a draw....

Last Time was August 25th, 1961... Took these picture on the Bernabeu Tour this past June to prove it:

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs187.snc1/6260_625405116181_21001512_39548907_1304529_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs187.snc1/6260_625375745041_21001512_39547277_4848765_n.jpg

Took this one for good measure:

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs187.snc1/6260_625375760011_21001512_39547280_6013299_n.jpg

p.s. FAKE grass leading to REAL grass :p

Stryker
08-05-2009, 01:42 PM
"...plans are still progressing to change the turf for grass on a permanent basis. "To do a proper field that would have a proper heating system and would be entirely aerated would cost around $3.5 million".

Sounds like they plan on doing it right at least.

prizby
08-05-2009, 02:03 PM
How much $$ do you think MLSE will sell pieces of the grass for after the game...? LOL

(I joke I joke!!!)

Carts....


maybe geting Ronaldo to urinate on a piece of grass, i wonder what cristiano loving girl would buy that :p

(I joke I joke!!!)

Lucky Strike
08-05-2009, 02:13 PM
This might be a naïve question to ask but: would it be possible to keep the grass for the next home game?

Batman
08-05-2009, 02:21 PM
It was said somewhere that the RM game would net MLSE a $3-Million profit...

If this RM game, allowed the TFC Money men to convince MLSE to sign the cheques to build a proper grass pitch - would people still be upset with the RM game...

Trying to think of the glass half full. Mid-season friendly, high ticket prices - but next season the pitch is "real" thanks to "Real"... ;)

Carts...

Great Point Carts. $3 plus the $5 or so EDU money, mean at least cost should be no object to MLSE to make it happen. Just the politics.

The Kingpin
08-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Reputation regarding what, though?

If you're talking about the sporting side, fine. But when it comes to their facilities, MLSE has shown that they will consistently spend money.

Now before anyone jumps in tells me that MLSE got cheap with BMO Field and should have built a better stadium, well there are a ton of factors that prevented that from happening (miore than simply "ML$E is cheap lolz0rs"), and this isn't what I'm arguing.

At the ACC, the ice was once considered the worst (or one of the worst) in the entire NHL. This was due to the arena's proxmity to the lake and the humidity levels that that proximty brings. MLSE spent millions upgrading the ice and installing new dehumidifiers to improve the situation, and since then there have been no compaints about the ice.

There are parallels between the ACC ice situation and the grass issue at BMO.

If anything MLSE tries to provide the best facilities for its teams (but obviously on the personnel/management side they've been far from successful), and that's why I believe the grass situation will be improved soner rather than later.

Also, they've shown that they are very image conscious. At the ACC, they installed a brand new scoreboard/sound system that cost them millions and represents no direct return for that investment (monetarily-wise). The shitty state of the turf is an image problem for TFC, another reason why I believe it will be a high priority for the suits on Bay and Lakeshore.

Again, none of what I said speaks to the sporting side of the equation. Their record in that regard is what it is.

Correct. They try to do it cheaply first. Only after much debate and dissension they are forced to change at the fans expense.

DangerRed
08-05-2009, 02:26 PM
This was too funny not to post. Hopefully we won't end up with this:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/uploads/1212457791/gallery_22283_11_28012.jpg

Rudi
08-05-2009, 02:32 PM
Correct. They try to do it cheaply first. Only after much debate and dissension they are forced to change at the fans expense.
Are you really suggesting that they built the ACC on the cheap? Seriously?

I'd love to see what kind of argument you can come up with to back up such a claim.

Belfast_Boy
08-05-2009, 02:33 PM
there's some great points in this thread. here's what'll make everyone happy: we get real permanent grass, they take Velez and Barrett and we get to sell the Ronaldo pee pee grass then I think this game is a great idea!

prizby
08-06-2009, 08:19 AM
out of the toronto star today

"Hunter, who put the price tag at about $3.5 million, including a heating system for spring and fall as well as drainage and aeration, said MLSE, which owns TFC, agrees and is ready to pay the cost."

now apparently MLSE is making 3M off the game

seems fit


still complaining about the friendly?

Wagner
08-06-2009, 08:28 AM
http://img299.yfrog.com/img299/4640/x3r.jpg
^^^ is this like porn for ExiledRed? ;)

deltox
08-06-2009, 08:30 AM
the issue now isnt about who will pay for it.


im glad that MLSE is going to pay for it....they do have a bit of spare change anyway.


the issue is that when BMO is all grass, it will only be played on for games.


no community use......hardly any practice. its TFC Games....maybe the odd local final.


So now we have to build or find another arena near by that will take over the community use that BMO currently deals with

rocker
08-06-2009, 08:56 AM
i'm really hoping that when they go to council on this, they've got everything in place for community use. Cuz you KNOW all the Miller haters on council like Rob Ford are going to whine and complain about the taxpayer losing out if everything is not 100% in order. Heck, even if everything is in order, Ford will complain.

TFC fans also need to know the dates of the council consideration, and must show up in force at the meetings on this. See what happened with the cyclists and the Jarvis street reconstruction when they showed up to give support to bike lanes.

Chevy
08-06-2009, 09:12 AM
This was too funny not to post. Hopefully we won't end up with this:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/uploads/1212457791/gallery_22283_11_28012.jpg

That back line of trees is more mobile than ours! :picard:

Yeoman
08-06-2009, 09:14 AM
How much $$ do you think MLSE will sell pieces of the grass for after the game...? LOL

(I joke I joke!!!)

Carts....

i'd suggest saying the PRB's buy a shit ton of it, and throw it back on the field after one of the games.
maybe they'll get a clue then?