SGs letter to the Crew

[SweetOwnGoal]

Rudi has requested that I publish the following letter that was sent to the Crew in April. It details the thinking behind the boycott of future road trips to Columbus.

the letter (http://www.24thminute.com/2009/07/tfc-supporters-groups-letter-to-crew-gm.html)

IE users please go directly to: www.24thminute.com


P.s - I don't belong to the NEE board. If someone could post a link over there I would appreciate it.

[H Bomb]

And now we know. thanks for the info dude.

[Pookie]

^ what was the response from McCullers?

[Eastend]

^ what was the response from McCullers?

and I quote:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i109/stunttman/Old_lady_finger.jpg

[SweetOwnGoal]

^ what was the response from McCullers?
Nothing, as far as I know. But, I'll let Rudi respond directly with more detail (if he has any)

[Rudi]

No direct response.

They believe their restrictions on banners/flags/etc. will aid in the security problems, though. Which is pretty dumb.

["THE PAGE"]

SOOOOO WHAAAATT! its not a perfect world, this shit happens all the time, specially at a football event! So if our Boys have their first playoff game in Colombus, and possibly the CONCACAF group stage this year we wont go and support them. I dont agree, this is not curling. Thats just my opinion!

[Yohan]

No direct response.

They believe their restrictions on banners/flags/etc. will aid in the security problems, though. Which is pretty dumb.
meaning, they chose the cop out and easy route

instead of actually getting a competent security, Crew FO hopes that ban on everything is going to solve the problem

all I know is that in most business, if you did something that pissed off 1000+ paying customers, you'd get fired

[Pigfynn]

Letter says regular season games

[CretanBull]

SOOOOO WHAAAATT! its not a perfect world, this shit happens all the time, specially at a football event! So if our Boys have their first playoff game in Colombus, and possibly the CONCACAF group stage this year we wont go and support them. I dont agree, this is not curling. Thats just my opinion!

:facepalm:

[Inswingingwingman]

The Columbus newspaper said a Crew management type suggested that if the Toronto people don't like their cops they should bring their own. Take the RCMP musical ride, and make banners like, We Won the War of 1812, stay home..

Tongue in cheek of course...

[Rudi]

The Columbus newspaper said a Crew management type suggested that if the Toronto people don't like their cops they should bring their own.
That was the coach, I believe.

It's pretty stupid of him to make light of it, especially when there were actually more Ohio residents arrested that day than Ontario residents.

[DichioTFC]

No direct response.

They believe their restrictions on banners/flags/etc. will aid in the security problems, though. Which is pretty dumb.

The announcements of restrictions imply that by controlling opposing fans, problems can be contained. With that rationale, the opposing fans are to blame for the events in Columbus.

By saying its all our fault, they're indicating that the actions and measures they took were appropriate and justified. Which is bullshit.

I hope we meet the Crew in CONCACAF... It will be the roadtrip to end all roadtrips.

[wzhxvy]

I have some pretty strong opinions about this letter and type of communication but will reserve my opinions to the Private Members forum.

[OneLoveOneEric]

Shame it wasn't proofread.
Did somebody bust out the thesaurus for this one?

[BC101]

:facepalm:
hahaha fantastic use.

[Rudi]

Shame it wasn't proofread.
Did somebody bust out the thesaurus for this one?
Yeah, I got The Kingpin to edit it first. :D

Seriously though, what is wrong with it (aside from some redundancies that I noticed this morning, the first time I've read it in months)? It's a professional-type letter sent (physically) to the Crew front office. I wasn't going to type it as if it was an MSN conversation.

That said, I don't really see any "big" words, so I honestly have no idea what you're on about.

[mmmikey]

I honestly wonder if this would have had a different outcome if the SGs involved were Americans instead of from Canada. I doubt the Crew FO and local Police forces would be as uncooperative. Not enough "my fellow Americans" in it.

[DichioTFC]

Yeah, I got The Kingpin to edit it first. :D

Seriously though, what is wrong with it (aside from some redundancies that I noticed this morning, the first time I've read it in months)? It's a professional-type letter sent (physically) to the Crew front office. I wasn't going to type it as if it was an MSN conversation.

That said, I don't really see any "big" words, so I honestly have no idea what you're on about.

Its a good letter, expresses our grievances in a professional manner and allows them an opportunity to respond / make changes.

Its a shame that the Crew dont need our ticket / beer / food money and the state of Ohio dont need our accomodation / travel / tourist money.

[manic.street.preacher]

so when exactly was this sent? will you post us the response(s), IF they deem to write back?

nice work though, Rudi.

[TFC RealDeal RPB]

good job Rudi, it's killing me knowin that i'm not going to KKK town but i stand with all the support goups and we have to stand up of are self's. Why wont the MLSE do anything about it ?

[SmokedPanda]

this may seem off topic but they did point out damage to their stadium. I never went to columbus but i saw a lot of seats at saputo stadium popped out when we won the cup

[Rudi]

Why wont the MLSE do anything about it ?
What would MLSE have to do with any of this?

When their fans come here, the TFC FO is top notch in dealing with them. They provide increased security in their section, and escort them through the stadium concourse to their buses.

We get nowhere near the same courtesy from the Crew FO, despite the fact that during the past two games we represented 15 to 20 per cent of the total attendance in their building.

TFC can talk to them and give them advice on how to handle away support professionally, and they have done so, but that's really all they can do. It is entirely the responsibility of the Crew and Crew Stadium to provide a safe environment for all paying fans, regardless of which team they happen to cheer for on the day.

[soccer69]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

[Rudi]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.
Aww... did we hurt your feelings?

[Sab0tage]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away. Cool story.

[Rudi]

Cool story.
:D:D

[Chevy]

The Columbus newspaper said a Crew management type suggested that if the Toronto people don't like their cops they should bring their own. Take the RCMP musical ride, and make banners like, We Won the War of 1812, stay home..

Tongue in cheek of course...


lol....

Banner: "Remember 1812"

Who want's to bet that nobody born south of the border will know what the F&*k that means (which makes it all the better)?

[denime]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

I can see you like number 69:hump:,no worries next time we come by we will bring some Vaseline too .That way we will not hurt you feelings :sheep:

[redcard]

good letter...it gets the point across...but even if we have more matchs with the KKKlowns (concacaf) we probably should avoid attending those as well, save our away support for the carribean teams

[Cashcleaner]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

And don't forget about that fence we pee'ed on, either.

[Blizzard]

lol....

Banner: "Remember 1812"

Who want's to bet that nobody born south of the border will know what the F&*k that means (which makes it all the better)?

The problem is, they think they won the War of 1812. The fact that the main goal of the war was to kick Great Britain out of North America is conveniently forgotten as they tend to focuss on other factors such as the British support of the Indians and the stoppage of US ships by British ships and the impressment of sailors.

Secondary issues.

They wanted the British out, it didn't happen!

But still, they think they won! :picard:

[Parkdale]

And don't forget about that fence we pee'ed on, either.

It wasn't just a fence, it was a wedding / funeral for the Mayor of Columbus / President of Ohio State and we all exposed ourselves and shook it a few too many times at their grandmothers / daughters.

[Cristiano14]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

And so you come here to tell us that :p hahaha thank you very much for your input, I hope you enjoy the responses to this

[OneLoveOneEric]

Yeah, I got The Kingpin to edit it first. :D

Seriously though, what is wrong with it (aside from some redundancies that I noticed this morning, the first time I've read it in months)? It's a professional-type letter sent (physically) to the Crew front office. I wasn't going to type it as if it was an MSN conversation.

That said, I don't really see any "big" words, so I honestly have no idea what you're on about.

"directed through a singular exit"

"towards an awaiting assemblage of members"

"three main supporters group of..."

"actively discourage all TFC fans who are not members of our supporters groups to not travel to Ohio"


Not trying to be a dick, but it looks like a lot of work was put in to this letter, and it loses impact when there are proofing errors in it.

[Cristiano14]

^ I wouldn't worry, I don't think those in columbus know very much about grammar or reading and writing for that matter. :p

[Roogsy]

No direct response.

They believe their restrictions on banners/flags/etc. will aid in the security problems, though. Which is pretty dumb.

Typical.

Because of course banners and flags are what caused the problems in the first place right?

Idiots. Looks like we won't be going back for a long time.

[Sullivan]

^ I wouldn't worry, I don't think those in columbus know very much about grammar or reading and writing for that matter. :p

Agreed,

I believe the appropriate term to describe these folks is "Archer", very common problem in Ohio.

i.e., "just another Archer"

[Sullivan]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

Happy to oblige, and sorry to hear you live in Columbus, ...unfortunately somebody has to.

And a quick favour, perhaps even a hint as a reminder, could you do something about the other dozen or so of your colleagues who periodically venture north - we'd like those seats for our own. We here in Toronto have a high demand for tickets to support our team every game.

[Roogsy]

Enjoy your half empty stadium lame-o's.

"Best supporters" my ass. :rolleyes: Crew fans can't fill a high school gymnasium.

[CretanBull]

hahaha fantastic use.


My first use of the facepalm, I had to save it up for something worthy.

[Rudi]

"directed through a singular exit"

"towards an awaiting assemblage of members"

"three main supporters group of..."

"actively discourage all TFC fans who are not members of our supporters groups to not travel to Ohio"


Not trying to be a dick, but it looks like a lot of work was put in to this letter, and it loses impact when there are proofing errors in it.
I'll be completely honest with you, I wrote it in all of 15 minutes, and barely touched it afterward (which is very rare for me).

I wanted everything (including the emotion of the event) to be fresh in my memory as I wrote it, but at the same time I was aware that I was writing a letter that was intended to convey some very important information to the Crew FO. Generally I'm a huge stickler for proofing (and re-proofing) anything I write, even these posts.

That all said, the only real error that I see of the ones you pointed out above is "singular" exit. I also shouldn't have used the term "of the opinion" so much, but as I said I wanted it to be raw and concise at the same time and that's honestly the way I think the language.

Either way, the points got through, in my opinion. Jack and Pedro agreed when they saw it, so that was good enough for me.

[Rudi]

^ I wouldn't worry, I don't think those in columbus know very much about grammar or reading and writing for that matter. :p
Funny you should mention that.

Check this out: The Columbus Dispatch : Reading rate dismal (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/01/09/adultliteracy.ART_ART_01-09-09_B1_LVCG2HV.html)


:D

[prizby]

typical american arrogance from the far right wingers

soccer69-LOL, you made my day

its funny how columbus doesn't want our money, admist the worse recession in the United States since the great depression...i guess they just ain't like ML$E :P

[AL-MO]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

Don't worry if we play you in the CCL you'll see us again this year. :flare:

You'll have to deal with us being rude and even more obnoxious. And there isn't shit you are going to do about it. :dita:

[nascarguy]

Funny you should mention that.

Check this out: The Columbus Dispatch : Reading rate dismal (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/01/09/adultliteracy.ART_ART_01-09-09_B1_LVCG2HV.html)


:D
lol :rofl::rofl:

[AL-MO]

Dear Soccer69,

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3387277873_d50c2862d1.jpg?v=0

[Roogsy]

OMG, I just read the Star article and can't believe me eyes.

The reason they are banning drums is because "priviledges" need to be removed? WTF?

The reason they are banning flags is because they give "cover" to those lighting flares?

Who is this joker? Is he serious or did he decide to invest stuff on the spot when asked for a quote? The retards employed in this league are mindblowingly inept.

[DichioTFC]

Are you sure you want to add soccer69 to your ignore list? Yes

Btw, it looks like that guy just joined July 2009, and I bet this was his first and only post. Its a shame that we have intruders stalking our boards. But then again, if you live in Columbus and you haven't killed yourself yet, what else is there to do?

[CretanBull]

Are you sure you want to add soccer69 to your ignore list? Yes

Btw, it looks like that guy just joined July 2009, and I bet this was his first and only post. Its a shame that we have intruders stalking our boards. But then again, if you live in Columbus and you haven't killed yourself yet, what else is there to do?

I was going to say "find a gun" but I think that they each have 4 or 5 of them already.

[DichioTFC]

typical american arrogance from the far right wingers

soccer69-LOL, you made my day

its funny how columbus doesn't want our money, admist the worse recession in the United States since the great depression...i guess they just ain't like ML$E :P

Good ol' predictable ML$E, they'll accept our money during good times and bad!!

[Roogsy]

I assume the same restrictions will be placed on the home fans? Because they had just as much to do with the mess at Crew stadium as anyone else.

My guess is no.

Hypocrites and liars. Crew management are scum. Its not surprising their fans are just as low class.

[DichioTFC]

I was going to say "find a gun" but I think that they each have 4 or 5 of them already EACH.

Fixed ;)

You raise a good point. I guess before they kill themselves they could contribute to one of the highest murder rates in the country. After all, it IS something to do.

[DichioTFC]

BTW, that reminds me, I had this crazy idea for a tifo if we ever go back to Shitlumbus... a huge banner that reads "You Voted For Bush! Twice!"

Thoughts????? Because I think this is a fuckin amazing idea!!

[AL-MO]

Are you sure you want to add soccer69 to your ignore list? Yes

Btw, it looks like that guy just joined July 2009, and I bet this was his first and only post. Its a shame that we have intruders stalking our boards. But then again, if you live in Columbus and you haven't killed yourself yet, what else is there to do?

Don't put him on your ignore list!

[billyfly]

I just want to WIN the game. Screw all the off-field sh*t. I wanna puke every time I read that TFC have never beaten them.

[Lucky Strike]

Funny you should mention that.

Check this out: The Columbus Dispatch : Reading rate dismal (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/01/09/adultliteracy.ART_ART_01-09-09_B1_LVCG2HV.html)


:D

And they blame immigrants for it!

[Kaz]

The problem is, they think they won the War of 1812. The fact that the main goal of the war was to kick Great Britain out of North America is conveniently forgotten as they tend to focuss on other factors such as the British support of the Indians and the stoppage of US ships by British ships and the impressment of sailors.

Secondary issues.

They wanted the British out, it didn't happen!

But still, they think they won! :picard:

Just remind them that they permanently lost territory at the end of the war. That is a clear loss. (granted it was a small island of a few acres but still loss of territory)

[onemanbarmyarmy]

That was the coach, I believe.

It's pretty stupid of him to make light of it, especially when there were actually more Ohio residents arrested that day than Ontario residents.

Holly crap! Americans scewing numbers to advance their opinions! Never!*cough* Florida vote count *cough*

[CretanBull]

^ Just remind them that we burnt Washington & the White House down...a mission carried out by George "laugh at my last name now bitch" Cockburn.

[onemanbarmyarmy]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

I love that this bastion of manners has decided that his trolling name would be soccer69. I guess soccerDONKEYPUNCH was taken. What a moral highgrounder. You my friend are the Jimmy Swaggart of board posting.

[Cambridge_Red]

I would rather spend my money in DC, NEW ENGLAND, NEW YORK, SEATTLE,......

[The Kingpin]

I love that this bastion of manners has decided that his trolling name would be soccer69. I guess soccerDONKEYPUNCH was taken. What a moral highgrounder. You my friend are the Jimmy Swaggart of board posting.

Fantastic! Even better, BATWINGDIDDLER would make an excellent moniker. It's the bible belt gone all wrong again...

[onemanbarmyarmy]

Fantastic! Even better, BATWINGDIDDLER would make an excellent moniker. It's the bible belt gone all wrong again...

Classic and classy!

[The Kingpin]

Classic and classy!

You know me, always bringin' the Clazz... USA Stylzz!

http://www.mooncostumes.com/image/3133

[Pookie]

I live in Columbus and have been to every Crew v Toronto FC match at Crew Stadium and in my opinion I'm glad you guys are not coming back. Without question the Toronto FC fans are the rudest most obnoxious fans in the league. I've been called more bad things for doing nothing but supporting my team by more Toronto FC fans then I care to remember. Please stay away.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm not sure that we are grasping the significance of this post.

If it turns out to be authentic, here we have actual, indesputable evidence of something that has only lived in mythology:

A Columbus citizen that actually attends Crew games regularly.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2167/2487864147_6a69f2b169.jpg?v=0

[The Kingpin]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm not sure that we are grasping the significance of this post.

If it turns out to be authentic, here we have actual, indesputable evidence of something that has only lived in mythology:

A Columbus citizen that actually attends Crew games regularly.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2167/2487864147_6a69f2b169.jpg?v=0

I wonder what they look like in their own habitat?

http://www.artq.net/artImages/6/KBCL54108372012056.jpg

[dow117]

Good letter ... Let them fill their own stadium. Also, lets not forget the first year where TFC fans were relegated to a field parking lot that was a quagmire with no toilet facilities.... great hospitality.
The City has no soul and is boring... Sat night was like being in Coboconk , though not as exciting... save $$$ for real cities like Chicago.
Move this team !!! nobody in town heard of them..

[Yohan]

Move this team !!! nobody in town heard of them..
they are averaging about 13k per game. 6 other teams have worse attendance average than Columbus

[Yohan]

apparently no tifos ban goes only for TFC fans, not any other away supporters

you guys sure you want to go to Columbus?

[soccer69]

Aww... did we hurt your feelings?
No dumb ass you acted like idiots, which is fine, but you did it to someone who was just trying to watch the game.

[soccer69]

I love that this bastion of manners has decided that his trolling name would be soccer69. I guess soccerDONKEYPUNCH was taken. What a moral highgrounder. You my friend are the Jimmy Swaggart of board posting.
69 is the year I was born.

[AL-MO]

Aww look who came back!

[Pigfynn]

No dumb ass you acted like idiots, which is fine, but you did it to someone who was just trying to watch the game.


Enjoy your silly little team while you can. Your sad town can't fill a stadium for an MLS champion and you're worried about rude visiting fans?

Go drive the car off your front lawn and leave us in peace.

[Sab0tage]

No dumb ass you acted like idiots, which is fine, but you did it to someone who was just trying to watch the game. Yeah, and all of YOUR own fans who traveled across the stadium to our area were just little angels, weren't they?

[Super]

69 is the year I was born.

Was it the summer of 69?

[Lucky Strike]

69 is the year I was born.

So you're 40 or maybe 39 if you haven't had your birthday yet and you come to troll and write like a petulant 9 year old? :facepalm:

Can your dad beat up my dad? Don't you have a cross-burning to go to or something? HAHAHAHAHA! Hoser.

[Yohan]

don't feed the trolls

[billyfly]

Mr. Soccer69 you are entitled to your feelings. No one is saying that you have to like us especially if "one of us" was rude to you.

You may notice that lots of people on the board don't like Columbus either. In other words, we don't like your sh*thole of a town b/c of the same reasons you use to justify your opinion of TFC fans.

Many of you were quite rude to us (especially to our visible minority brothers) when all we were trying to do was "watch the game."

[redcard]

apparently no tifos ban goes only for TFC fans, not any other away supporters

you guys sure you want to go to Columbus?

I agree with Yohan we should never go back to Columbus, regardless if its a CCL match...

those idiots know we cant stay away, which is why they want to take away our privileges of bringing drums and banners...

I say no more Columbus. It will hurt Columbus not us. Whos with me?

[AL-MO]

We'll go back for a playoff game or something of that nature and I am sure a compromise will be worked out.

[Shakes McQueen]

I agree with Yohan we should never go back to Columbus, regardless if its a CCL match...

those idiots know we cant stay away, which is why they want to take away our privileges of bringing drums and banners...

I say no more Columbus. It will hurt Columbus not us. Whos with me?

The point of a supporters group is to be a good 12th man. If we are in a playoff or CCL game, you can bet your ass I will be there.

If it requires me to put some money into the local Columbus economy, I can get over that. It's supposed to be about our team, not the opposing fans.

- Scott

[onemanbarmyarmy]

69 is the year I was born.

Whateves. You are still Jimmy Swaggart to me. I wish you were Audi 5000 yhough. (see what I did there?!)

[Yeoman]

hey do we have a similar ban in effect at BMO for these shit heads?
why don't we?!?

[prizby]

69 is the year I was born.

ever tried thinking before you make a name or is that not possible in Columbus?

[prizby]

Funny you should mention that.

Check this out: The Columbus Dispatch : Reading rate dismal (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/01/09/adultliteracy.ART_ART_01-09-09_B1_LVCG2HV.html)


:D


i just read this...next columbus game that we are allowed, have a banners, we should make one that says 13% of you columbus fans cannot read this :P

[Petor]

hey do we have a similar ban in effect at BMO for these shit heads?
why don't we?!?

Ummmm no?
If we did we would be shitheads like them eh?

:scarf:

[Yeoman]

eye for an eye
it makes sense to me
if we can't have fun in their stadium, why the fuck would we let them at ours?

[Yohan]

eye for an eye
it makes sense to me
if we can't have fun in their stadium, why the fuck would we let them at ours?
because it's not the Crew supporters at fault here, but Crew FO

[Yeoman]

yeah no i know, but maybe we can have an FO rivalry instead you know?

[Denis]

Exclusive pic of Crew's FO taking the decision:

http://www.thevarguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/crying-baby.jpg

[Yohan]

Mark McCullers vs Paul Beirne death match? :D

[prizby]

"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"

LOOOL

[soccer69]

ever tried thinking before you make a name or is that not possible in Columbus?
Lets see soccer the sport I love and I was born in 1969. Makes sense to me. Oh I see!!! It's your mind that's in the gutter. I get it.

[billyfly]

^Don't pretend that you don't know what 69 is or what a double entrendre is.

[Roogsy]

hey do we have a similar ban in effect at BMO for these shit heads?
why don't we?!?


We should start a petition.

Any Columbus fan that comes up here should leave their flags, banners and drums home until their FO wakes up and takes their heads out of their collective asses.

I doubt our FO will take this initiative on their own so we need to do it for them.

[Roogsy]

^Don't pretend that you don't know what 69 is or what a double entrendre is.

Don't use big words in front with Crew fans. Especially French ones. Their inbred asses don't have the brainpower to comprehend.

[Yohan]

well, looks like only 100 to 150 toronto fans made the trip to Columbus

not that it really hurt Crew attendance as they still got 13500 ish, and this was with a really bad weather prediction (storm passed few hours before kick off)

[Blizzard]

^Don't pretend that you don't know what 69 is or what a double entrendre is.

Hmmm. "entendre"

[The Kingpin]

Yeah, I got The Kingpin to edit it first. :D

Seriously though, what is wrong with it (aside from some redundancies that I noticed this morning, the first time I've read it in months)? It's a professional-type letter sent (physically) to the Crew front office. I wasn't going to type it as if it was an MSN conversation.

That said, I don't really see any "big" words, so I honestly have no idea what you're on about.

It's AMAZING what people consider to be big words. But as Exiled said to me, consider your audience. So in essence, people here are supposed to "dumb things down" to ensure that the sensitivities of others are considered. It has been baffling since I began posting way back... Decent letter though.

[s2cazz]

Great letter Rudi... has anyone though of ccing it to MLS offices or the the soccer don himself?... just an idea but i think that in light of the new MLS 2.0 that anything causing a reduction in attendance anywhere would be something of importance to MLS.

[Yohan]

Great letter Rudi... has anyone though of ccing it to MLS offices or the the soccer don himself?... just an idea but i think that in light of the new MLS 2.0 that anything causing a reduction in attendance anywhere would be something of importance to MLS.
wait for Crew FO's response before turning up the heat

[Roogsy]

Dude, that letter was sent months ago. Their answer was quite clear.

http://www.lunpechar.com/images/fuck-off.jpg

[Yohan]

Dude, that letter was sent months ago. Their answer was quite clear.

http://www.lunpechar.com/images/fuck-off.jpg
I should have made it more clear

wait for Crew FO's response, after seeing lack of travelling TFC fans to Columbus last Sat.

perhaps they may be more willing to listen now (not that I'm having high hopes on this)

[Phil]

I should have made it more clear

wait for Crew FO's response, after seeing lack of travelling TFC fans to Columbus last Sat.

perhaps they may be more willing to listen now (not that I'm having high hopes on this)

My gut tells me it will take more than 1 game, but you never know I guess.

[CretanBull]

Only a small group of TFC supporters went down there, but it was still more away support than they get for any other game except for weekend games vs. Chicago.

[CoachGT]

What stood out about the supporters that went (and this was pointed out to me at the pub) were their scarves. During the frequent camera pans of the Toronto few, there were no supporters scarves readily visible. All that were visible seemed to be the adidas team scarves.

Time to get past this and look forward. I'm tired of hearing about Columbus.

[s2cazz]

Time to get past this and look forward. I'm tired of hearing about Columbus.
I'm with you

[cmonyoureds]

My gut tells me it will take more than 1 game, but you never know I guess.

Makes me wonder if we could take 2000+ to Philly next year if someone in KKK f/o who's higher up might start asking questions...........

Then again I shouldn't really care if they notice or not, worrying about it is seconds of my day I'll never get back.