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TorontoBlades
06-24-2009, 10:19 PM
I keep on seeing Nana progress in leaps and bounds. My personal opinion is that he might be a better all-round defender then Marvelle.

The question has to be asked...

Is now the time to move Wynne while his stock is high with the US National team to either trade him within the MLS or get some cash for him in the July transfer window?

ensco
06-24-2009, 10:26 PM
I agree with you. Wynne has lost his starting position to Nana. It is amazing.

Whether you agree or not, who among us thought we might be seriously discussing this when the season started?

Pachuco
06-24-2009, 10:33 PM
I don't think Wynne's lost his spot. At all. Nana is good, but still young. Give me a break, if anyone lost his spot a long time ago it was Brennan. It's a joke how untouchable he is.

Shway
06-24-2009, 10:34 PM
Nana All Day Every Day!!!!

James17930
06-24-2009, 10:40 PM
I don't think Wynne's lost his spot. At all. Nana is good, but still young. Give me a break, if anyone lost his spot a long time ago it was Brennan. It's a joke how untouchable he is.

But the only other left-footed defender we have is Gala, who isn't (and may never be) ready.

And remember, we need depth. We shouldn't get rid of one player just because another one is playing well. What happens if one gets hurt, not to mention international duty?

Shway
06-24-2009, 10:40 PM
change this thread title to Trade Wynne WE HAVE NANA thread










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Pachuco
06-24-2009, 10:43 PM
But the only other left-footed defender we have is Gala, who isn't (and may never be) ready.

And remember, we need depth. We shouldn't get rid of one player just because another one is playing well. What happens if one gets hurt, not to mention international duty?

Not sure who's talking about trades here. I sure wasn't. I don't care if Brennan is left footed to be honest, cause his left foot passing abilities are worse then most players left foot on the field and they are right footed ;)

He didn't play too bad today though, he was just alright for me. I'm going on the entire season.

S_D
06-24-2009, 10:46 PM
I keep on seeing Nana progress in leaps and bounds. My personal opinion is that he might be a better all-round defender then Marvelle.

The question has to be asked...

Is now the time to move Wynne while his stock is high with the US National team to either trade him within the MLS or get some cash for him in the July transfer window?

Funny you mention this. I was talking about this to a guy at the game this eve. I think Wynne could lose his spot. Not sure if they are training Nana to be a RB or CB (or both) but it is a nice problem to have.

I guess if an amazing offer came up, it would be pretty hard for Mo to say no knowing he had someone who I think is ready for the position full time. I would be pretty tempted is someone offered a big CB the likes of Conde. Not sure if anyone would offer a player like that for Wynne though.

MFG1
06-24-2009, 10:47 PM
Nana is growing into a solid young defender faster than i would have ever thought, Wynne should be shaking in his boots

Inklink
06-24-2009, 10:49 PM
Guys, with the plethora of games coming up, we're going to need all the depth we can get.

I doubt Wynne would be around next year anyway, but I don't think he should be shipped off now. Plus, don't forget injuries. One man down in the back line and we'll need Nana/Wynne again.

So keep them both. :scarf:

BESIDES, CC loves competition in every position. We have quite a few forwards (quality TBD); midfield is a little thin after Harmse, Rickkets and Smith were let go. D isn't much better. So I don't see Wynne leaving (can't he play midfield too?)

rocker
06-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Wynne wasn't as good as Nana at Nana's age. I'm not sure Wynne is as good now.
Nana reads the game much better, and is more polished, despite the age difference.

Wynne is fast, but Nana is pretty fast too with great CONTROLLED acceleration.
He also is pretty physical, which is one of Wynne's best attributes.

Azerban
06-24-2009, 11:01 PM
Wynne + Barrett for Dane Richards and a draft pick/allocation.

UltraSuperMegaMo
06-24-2009, 11:02 PM
I feel that Nana’s is a better passer in the offensive zone, as evidenced tonight, and more versatile in he can play RB and CB.

C.Ronaldo
06-24-2009, 11:05 PM
zero handballs

Mr. Bigby
06-24-2009, 11:11 PM
As exciting as Wynne can be, from time to time, I have been impressed with Nana every game he has played this year. He shows a quiet competence that belies his relative youth!

MUFC_Niagara
06-24-2009, 11:34 PM
I keep on seeing Nana progress in leaps and bounds. My personal opinion is that he might be a better all-round defender then Marvelle.

The question has to be asked...

Is now the time to move Wynne while his stock is high with the US National team to either trade him within the MLS or get some cash for him in the July transfer window?

My dad and I were talking about that tonight! It may be time to move him!

Darlofletch
06-24-2009, 11:38 PM
nana= better defensively than Wynne.

Seeing as how we're talking about a defensive position, then yes, keep Nana when wynne comes back.

BuSaPuNk
06-24-2009, 11:44 PM
Nana seems to be better defensively, however Wynne brings lots of pace and ability to cross into the box well. If they still want to play both keep Nana in the back where he is playing above and beyond what we all thought he could...then put wynne in a more forward mabey midfield on the flank? There he can use his speed and Guevarra and DeRo seem to love those cross feild to sideline passes....almost always ends up in a good scoring chance.

greatwhitenorf
06-25-2009, 12:06 AM
Wynne started earlier this season as right-side mid. Might be best position for him to get best use out of his scrambly, gnarly, ball-winning style. Could be a pocket Gattuso up there.

Nana is looking very smoove just now. But still cautious about moving into space in front of him when you just know Wynne would have galloped in there. But Nana's making great strides and looking after his own back yard defensively. Very happy.

Keyman
06-25-2009, 12:07 AM
If Wynne is deemed dispensable, do you:
A) Keep Wynne to ensure that you can reap the rewards of a transfer to Europe. (not saying he will surely go, just that it's been widely rumoured for a while)
or
B) Trade him for valuable assets, not money, but actual player(s) who can step in immediately.

CretanBull
06-25-2009, 12:08 AM
Nana is better than Wynne, but having depth isn't a bad thing...we don't need to make a move.

Ossington Mental Youth
06-25-2009, 12:15 AM
Id like to keep both, both have their values. Nana has definitely earned hsi spot on first team but im not mad if hes benched upon Wynnes return. I dont think he'd be either

Donald Duck
06-25-2009, 12:23 AM
Wynne got the speed which Nana doesn't. Personally, I will take Wynne way more than Nana. But yea... keep both. Season is long and what happen if one of them injury or like wht happen to Wynne now, on National duty.

H Bomb
06-25-2009, 12:24 AM
Nana is a CB... that is all.

Keegan
06-25-2009, 02:09 AM
Unbelievable I really TRULY hoped I was wrong! But I was right! Fucking Carver and Mo took so fucking long to realize this guy was starting material. It was so clear, he was the best player in friendlies, playing well for Canada U20s media said he was one of the better players in training camp for two years now. Even when he was given the chance to play he played well but then wasn't used again.

Gala is the same! You wait and see he has been impressive just as much in brief appearances and friendlies, he needs to be given a shot! He hasn't played a minute and he is rated even higher than Nana (remember him vs. Argentina U20s at BMO?). So he got cut from Canada U20s big deal, he had a bit of a commitment problem hes young.

TFC is lucky Canada suddenly has so much depth on D or he would be at the Gold Cup. EVen though I would already take him over Cann or Hastings.

UltraSuperMegaMo
06-25-2009, 02:22 AM
I agree with you about Gala deserving a shot, but I don’t think he’s going to get it. The crazy thing is that he started two games in the team’s first year and looked good. I think he’s going to have to really impress in the friendlies to looking again, which is a shame.

Luanda
06-25-2009, 06:49 AM
Let us stop the talk of getting rid of this or that player. At the moment, our roster is 3 (three) men short. First, TFC needs to fill those spots. After, we can all engage in trade talk.

Blazer
06-25-2009, 07:28 AM
Everything is peachy keen jellybean, lollipops and gumdrops after a win around here. The whole team should be dismantled after a loss or certain guys should be transferred after a tie. It’s really quite pathetic.

Despite his welcomed progress, Marvell has not lost his starting spot to Attakora. It’s Marvell’s spot to lose if he so chooses to let his game go to the dogs. It’s just not a spot that was “open” in the first place.

You can’t lose a spot because you’re busy helping your national team beat the best team in the world.

Shaughno
06-25-2009, 07:55 AM
Wynne + Barrett for Dane Richards and a draft pick/allocation.


:eek: I'll fucking take it! (just kidding but I'd love to see Richards here, man he's fast)

Honestly, I like Wynne but.. he's not a good defender. He tries hard, and makes some good plays but I really think he's more of a utility type player, than an all out defender.

Attakora has REALLY impressed me lately. His no nonesense defending, heads up play and similar to Wynne, likes to join the attack while having the speed to get back when needed.

That said, I don't want either to go... yet anyway. We'll need both down the stretch and Wynne can easily jump into midfield if we ever need it.

nobodybeatsthewiz
06-25-2009, 08:14 AM
im looking forward to seeing nana get some intl's play in the gold cup

S_D
06-25-2009, 08:20 AM
Everything is peachy keen jellybean, lollipops and gumdrops after a win around here. The whole team should be dismantled after a loss or certain guys should be transferred after a tie. It’s really quite pathetic.

Despite his welcomed progress, Marvell has not lost his starting spot to Attakora. It’s Marvell’s spot to lose if he so chooses to let his game go to the dogs. It’s just not a spot that was “open” in the first place.

You can’t lose a spot because you’re busy helping your national team beat the best team in the world.

Of course you can if you have a man sitting on the bench who steps in and does a job as well as he has done. And it is argueable that this has happened.

Nobody is suggesting that the team be dismantled (well some are, others think tweaks are in order lol), and I don't get the feeling that anyone wants to run Marvell out of town.

I think we have a nice problem at right back (or CB), but you always have to consider the possiblities of plugging up holes using a position you have good talent in. Especially in the MLS where salary caps interfere with building a great team and a player's value may be at an all time high.

BuSaPuNk
06-25-2009, 08:26 AM
Everything is peachy keen jellybean, lollipops and gumdrops after a win around here. The whole team should be dismantled after a loss or certain guys should be transferred after a tie. It’s really quite pathetic.

Despite his welcomed progress, Marvell has not lost his starting spot to Attakora. It’s Marvell’s spot to lose if he so chooses to let his game go to the dogs. It’s just not a spot that was “open” in the first place.

You can’t lose a spot because you’re busy helping your national team beat the best team in the world.

Completely agree with you that Wynne rightfully hasn't lost his spot and shouldn't just because he was called up for the NT. However if we are in a groove and winning....(ie like now)...don't just take out Nana and throw in Wynne. It would throw the teams chemistry off to change like that.

I believe they should look at leaving Nana at the back and using Wynne as more of a wide midfielder ( we all know we need one after losing Ricketts and Smith). His speed and passing ability would be great to see on the wing. Sure there really isn't anyone I would like to see taken out of the midfield but we have to start looking at all the games we will be playing with CCL, friendlies, and MLS in the next 2 months. Also Gold Cup call ups will be a hinderince on players coming and going.

If anything we should be resting Robinson and DeRo when we can so save them for the long haul to playoffs and CCL group play.

Niall
06-25-2009, 08:35 AM
Does Nana have the Ability to play on the left?

Wouldn't mind seeing the back line of:

Wynne - Garcia - Serioux - Nana

See how deep this depth goes.

Azerban
06-25-2009, 08:45 AM
Everything is peachy keen jellybean, lollipops and gumdrops after a win around here. The whole team should be dismantled after a loss or certain guys should be transferred after a tie. It’s really quite pathetic.


i see you're new to sports let me show you around

if you have any questions don't be scared to ask!

Blazer
06-25-2009, 08:53 AM
^ It's all just so damn Toronto Maple Leafs ...

Steve
06-25-2009, 08:55 AM
Does Nana have the Ability to play on the left?

Wouldn't mind seeing the back line of:

Wynne - Garcia - Serioux - Nana

See how deep this depth goes.

That is what I'd like to see. The only problem with this, of course, is that Brennan is the captain, and I'm not sure if Cummins is willing to bench the captain (despite the fact that he has been poor in defence this year).

Blazer
06-25-2009, 09:01 AM
^ Yeah, talk about a guy that needs to be benched ... no disrepect, he seems like a decent enough dude, but shit ...

I_AM_CANADIAN
06-25-2009, 09:05 AM
Nana had another great game last night, I can't believe how quickly he's progressed, how good he is already. He's been impressive to say the least. It's to the point where I honestly can't choose between him and Wynne. Likely it'll be Wynne starting and Nana coming off the bench for anyone across the back line, though.

rocker
06-25-2009, 09:05 AM
brennan played fine yesterday.

trane
06-25-2009, 09:14 AM
I thought Nana had the ability to start last year, since the Colorado, at Colarado win, Wynne may be faster, Nana is a better football player a better defener. Having said that. I would not get rid of Wynne. Having five quality backs, with one decent/serviceble back up (Velez), is a good thing to have. Further, I would not be suprised to see Nana, Cronin and Frei be picked up by European sides in the next couple of years.

mr k
06-25-2009, 09:19 AM
Wynne has raw athletic skills but Nana is a better football player.

Playing on the back line, it's about not making huge mistakes first which I have more comfort with Nana than Wynne.

Wynne has also fallen off the US NT depth chart - he was bitch slapped by Costa Rica in the US loss to them in a WC qualifying match last month. He hasn't seen any playing time since then.

ensco
06-25-2009, 09:46 AM
brennan played fine yesterday.

He was OK. Except for the time he got completely undressed one-on-one in the first half.

BleedRed
06-25-2009, 10:11 AM
Brennan seems good to me, I don't know what other people keep talking about.

Keegan
06-25-2009, 10:13 AM
im looking forward to seeing nana get some intl's play in the gold cup

We'll have to wait until 2011 for that one he wasn't called up.

Yohan
06-25-2009, 10:48 AM
it's amazing how quickly Nana is progressing, while Wynne seems to have stagnated

Not only was he defensively solid, he also showed that he had attacking flair as well last game, esp in 1st half setting up Vitti goal and attempting a shot on goal

Wynne can become easily expendable if Nana keeps playing like this

Pookie
06-25-2009, 11:19 AM
Nana left a game eariler this year with a slight concussion. Personally, I'd be hanging on to Wynne for the remainder of this year. Concussions are hard to predict or manage.

After this season, I'd cross my fingers that Europe comes calling down the road.