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BuSaPuNk
05-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Okay boys here we go battle for first place.

Last 4 games we've been 2-1-1 and DC has been the same. Both coming in with good form and we also coming off a win wednesday against Vancouver.

This is going to be a close game and i expect to get a draw at the least. We've had some bad form in DC but think after a soild win against Vancouver we could get it done.

Like to see this as our formation:

-----------Frei---------------
--Wynne----Attakora--Brennan---
---Cronin--------Robinson------
-----Guevarra---------DeRo----
--Barrett------Dichio--------
----------Vitti-----------

Oldtimer
05-08-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm pretty sure the team will play 4-3-3, at least to start.

We might see Serioux in for Attakora if he's well enough.

I expect Dichio to play because he's good at breaking down DC's defense.

If any game is important to win, or minimum tie, this one is. It will have a big impact on our playoff hopes.

BuSaPuNk
05-08-2009, 11:13 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Ibby at some point this game as well. He tore up DC last year and could do the same again, as a sub of course. Dichio plays well against DC as well and I expect him to get on the board this game. I think it's either a 2-1 TFC or 2-2 draw. Dichio and Vitti get the goals.

sulfur
05-08-2009, 11:14 AM
DC comes into this one, giving up 2 points late in the game against KC.

CanadaLFC
05-08-2009, 11:15 AM
I tend to agree with the 4-3-3. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Im pretty sure that Dichio will start and that Serioux and Cronin will make their way back into the line-up. Also expecting DeRo to start.

This game is definietly winnable and that is what I will settle for. I think we have enough quality if we can FINISH our chances.

BuSaPuNk
05-08-2009, 11:19 AM
Now that I think about it the 4-3-3 does work and probably shouldn't change it, also figuring in the Serioux is ready to go as well.

-----------------Frei---------------
--Wynne--Serioux--Attakora--Brennan--
---Cronin---Robinson---Guevarra---
--Barrett-----Dichio---DeRo------

Yohan
05-08-2009, 11:20 AM
And keeping posession in the midfield.

DC probably will play 3-5-2. Cronin and Robbo will be doing a lot of running around

trane
05-08-2009, 11:20 AM
^ 4-3-3 played as it has been, would not be suprised that De Ro starts for Guevarra as he has played alot of minutes. Cummins may start something of a rotation to avoid fatigue and injuries to the players, they are playing alot of games in this strech and everyone will need some rest.


I would start Attakora ahead of Velez, although Marco has not done anything to deserve a benching I just think Attakora is a better defender, and our CB of the future. He will be our starter sooner or later.

Don Julio
05-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Wow, as long as we're throwing out random things we'd ltry in FIFA '09.. My road formation:

---------Attakora---Serioux---Velez----------
-Wynne------------------------------Brennan-
-------------------Robbo-----------------------
-----Guevara--------------------Dero--------
-----------Barrett------------------------------
---------------------------Vitti------------------

If we get a lead take out a striker and put add Cronin in the midfield



This probably wouldn't work, but neither will the 4-3-3 if we keep playing it. We need to be able to show more than one formation or else we'll be too predictable.

Nuvinho
05-08-2009, 02:07 PM
Look who the ref is....


REFEREE: Baldomero Toledo. SAR (bench): Greg Barkey; JAR (opposite): Jason Cullum; 4th: Andrew Chapin
MLS Career: 70 games; FC/gm: 26.9; Y/gm: 4.0; R: 27; pens: 27

DOMIN8R
05-08-2009, 02:14 PM
That should be interesting. Anybody got an extra shirt?

TFC RealDeal RPB
05-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Like to see this as our formation:

-----------Frei---------------
--Wynne----Attakora--Brennan---
---Cronin--------Robinson------
-----Guevarra---------DeRo----
--Barrett------Dichio--------
----------Vitti-----------


I think u got this one wrong i can't see them going in to DC with formation,stay with or 4-3-3 or go with 4-5-1 with Dichio up front.

Redpunkfiddle
05-08-2009, 05:26 PM
As happened last year, we go on the road to DC early in the season at a point where we can set the tone for being legit or not.

Our (second) game against DC last year, coming after the 3 game winning streak, showed us up to be a complete bag of hammers on the road.

Sure, it is early in the season and there is plenty of time for all kinds of ups and downs, but getting a result on Saturday will go a long way to showing we can be consistent over a stretch.

DOMIN8R
05-08-2009, 05:30 PM
-----------------Frei---------------
--Wynne--Velez--Attakora--Brennan--
------------Cronin---Robinson--------
--------------Guevarra--------------
-----Barrett------------DeRo--------
----------------Dichio--------------


Agent Zero will still be out with an injury.

Vitti/Ibbe will sub Barett if he cramps or DD if he tires

Cambridge_Red
05-08-2009, 06:02 PM
We're gonna win

ensco
05-08-2009, 06:07 PM
We need to see excellence from Robinson and Brennan. These guys have been subpar lately - they must get back on track.

Lennon
05-08-2009, 06:54 PM
This is what I would do ...

-----------------Frei---------------
--Wynne--Velez--Attakora--Brennan--
------------Cronin---Robinson--------
--------------Guevarra--------------
-----Vitti------------------DeRo--------
----------------Dichio--------------

Because converting 1/10 one-on-one/open net situations is not good enough ...

mighty_torontofc_2008
05-08-2009, 06:57 PM
a point from DC would be terrific as it has not be kind to us over the 2 previous seasons...3pts would be a bonus.

Daveisonfire
05-08-2009, 11:51 PM
-------------------------Frei---------------------------
Wynne------Velez/Serioux----Attakora-----Brennan
--------------Cronin-----------Robinson-------------
----------------------Guevara------------------------
Barrett------------------------------------De Rosario
------------------------Vitti---------------------------

Or Vitti on the wing instead of Barrett and Dichio as the target forward.

Yohan
05-09-2009, 10:52 AM
Lets Get Fracking Pumped Up!!!

Game Day!!!!

dupont
05-09-2009, 11:13 AM
This one is tough to call. There is no good reason why we cant get at least a draw. I think historical precedent doesn't really mean as much as people think. It just comes down to the single game performance. We can get our first points in DC.

TFC07
05-09-2009, 12:16 PM
We haven't won a game in that shit baseball field. So I will be happy with a draw.

:scarf:

ForTheReds
05-09-2009, 12:23 PM
As if we have not :deadhorse: with Barrett as a striker i hope cummins puts out this lineup Yes Barrett Included!!! ..... In where he should play!

4-3-1-2
----------Vitti----DeRo--------
------------Barrett----------
Cronin-----Robinson-----Guevara
Brennan-Velez--Serioux-Attakora
-------------Frei---------------

That is a rather sexy lineup eh?

Strategy Bring it on Early, Very Heavy tempo Get early goals. Take the fans out of it , slow it down play possession, but still attack.
2nd half switch it to fast- flanking game use dichio for headers.
Use Wynne & Brennan up the wings for crosses. Get the ball in the box!
Put Dc on there heels with a relentless Aerial attack.

** why is Barrett Out there? because HE CAN PLAY , he just cant finish... so let him play!
He wont score, but he will assist , good on through balls and on beating defenders, fits into
2nd half strategy, and can bring the tempo to start!
Subs:
Smith
Ibee
Dichio> At 60ish for DeRo Yes he is prone to injury!
wynne> 2nd half** look at strategy for attakora
edwards

koryo
05-09-2009, 12:26 PM
I'd be ecstatic with a draw. It seems that every time we've gone to DC we get absolutely battered.

ForTheReds
05-09-2009, 12:36 PM
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif
As if we have not :deadhorse: with Barrett as a striker i hope cummins puts out this lineup Yes Barrett Included!!! ..... In where he should play!

4-3-1-2
----------Vitti----DeRo--------
------------Barrett----------
Cronin-----Robinson-----Guevara
Brennan-Velez--Serioux-Attakora
-------------Frei---------------

That is a rather sexy lineup eh?

Strategy Bring it on Early, Very Heavy tempo Get early goals. Take the fans out of it , slow it down play possession, but still attack.
2nd half switch it to fast- flanking game use dichio for headers.
Use Wynne & Brennan up the wings for crosses. Get the ball in the box!
Put Dc on there heels with a relentless Aerial attack.

** why is Barrett Out there? because HE CAN PLAY , he just cant finish... so let him play!
He wont score, but he will assist , good on through balls and on beating defenders, fits into
2nd half strategy, and can bring the tempo to start!
Subs:
Smith
Ibee
Dichio> At 60ish for DeRo Yes he is prone to injury!
wynne> 2nd half** look at strategy for attakora
edwards

ForTheReds
05-09-2009, 12:38 PM
-----------------Frei---------------
--Wynne--Velez--Attakora--Brennan--
------------Cronin---Robinson--------
--------------Guevarra--------------
-----Barrett------------DeRo--------
----------------Dichio--------------


Agent Zero will still be out with an injury.

Vitti/Ibbe will sub Barett if he cramps or DD if he tires

why barrett?

TFC_Toon
05-09-2009, 12:43 PM
4-3-1-2
----------Vitti----DeRo--------
------------Barrett----------
Cronin-----Robinson-----Guevara
Brennan-Velez--Serioux-Attakora
-------------Frei---------------



** why is Barrett Out there? because HE CAN PLAY , he just cant finish... so let him play!


I believe his passing to be suspect at times as well, not sure pushing Guevara out wide would help our cause, I would prefer to see Dichio in that hold up and distribution position as opposed to Barrett, in this formation anyway.

Jeffro
05-09-2009, 01:01 PM
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif
As if we have not :deadhorse: with Barrett as a striker i hope cummins puts out this lineup Yes Barrett Included!!! ..... In where he should play!

4-3-1-2
----------Vitti----DeRo--------
------------Barrett----------
Cronin-----Robinson-----Guevara
Brennan-Velez--Serioux-Attakora
-------------Frei---------------

That is a rather sexy lineup eh?

Strategy Bring it on Early, Very Heavy tempo Get early goals. Take the fans out of it , slow it down play possession, but still attack.
2nd half switch it to fast- flanking game use dichio for headers.
Use Wynne & Brennan up the wings for crosses. Get the ball in the box!
Put Dc on there heels with a relentless Aerial attack.

** why is Barrett Out there? because HE CAN PLAY , he just cant finish... so let him play!
He wont score, but he will assist , good on through balls and on beating defenders, fits into
2nd half strategy, and can bring the tempo to start!
Subs:
Smith
Ibee
Dichio> At 60ish for DeRo Yes he is prone to injury!
wynne> 2nd half** look at strategy for attakora
edwards


dude, you don't need to post the EXACT same thing in every thread

TFC12
05-09-2009, 01:34 PM
As if we have not :deadhorse: with Barrett as a striker i hope cummins puts out this lineup Yes Barrett Included!!! ..... In where he should play!

4-3-1-2
----------Vitti----DeRo--------
------------Barrett----------
Cronin-----Robinson-----Guevara
Brennan-Velez--Serioux-Attakora
-------------Frei---------------

That is a rather sexy lineup eh?

Strategy Bring it on Early, Very Heavy tempo Get early goals. Take the fans out of it , slow it down play possession, but still attack.
2nd half switch it to fast- flanking game use dichio for headers.
Use Wynne & Brennan up the wings for crosses. Get the ball in the box!
Put Dc on there heels with a relentless Aerial attack.

** why is Barrett Out there? because HE CAN PLAY , he just cant finish... so let him play!
He wont score, but he will assist , good on through balls and on beating defenders, fits into
2nd half strategy, and can bring the tempo to start!
Subs:
Smith
Ibee
Dichio> At 60ish for DeRo Yes he is prone to injury!
wynne> 2nd half** look at strategy for attakora
edwards
oh man!....your pass 3-4 posts have hurt my brain! lol

you put DeRo, Barrett, and Guevara out of position, and take out Wynne!!!

first of all, Guevara would never be useful as a winger, because he doesn't run/ chase back when he loses a ball. If anything, if you want to put Barrett out of position, at lease put him on the wing, where he's played well before and came back often to help the D. Then you take Wynne, who always plays really well, and I don't think has ever been a sub for us, and put in a unexperienced player whose natural position in CB. although he can probably play RB as well, but I couldn't see him take out Wynne unless CC is planning on resting him.

I think CC will just put out the best line-up like he's always says, no real surprises except 1-2 to fill in some injuries some players might have.

ben_vw
05-09-2009, 01:46 PM
Why on earth would Barrett play in our "#10" role when we have DeRo and Guevara?

mighty_torontofc_2008
05-09-2009, 02:13 PM
go 4-3-3 and just attack our record in DC is not good so we have nothing to lose.

FREI
.........BRENNAN.........VELEZ........SERIOUX..... .....ATTOKORA
..............CRONIN...........ROBINSON.......GUEV ARA..........
.........BARRETT...........VITTI.........DICHIO

GO:scarf:

mighty_torontofc_2008
05-09-2009, 03:20 PM
after the TFC match you can catch the last half of the Fire -Revs east clash on wsbk boston, please let it be a draw.

Nazzer
05-09-2009, 03:29 PM
is wynne injured?

zeelaw
05-09-2009, 03:35 PM
My blog is rocking a game-chat for all those who are interested
http://www.thesubsbench.ca/?p=1075

BFin
05-09-2009, 03:38 PM
lol why would Barrett and DeRo switch?
Why isn't Amado in the middle?
Why isn't Marvell playing?
If u want to shift Barrett out of position, put him out wide where he can run his ass off and cause the defenders fits. Not in the middle in a ball distribtion position. Hes one of my favourite players, and even I think this is a dumb idea.

shwade
05-09-2009, 04:00 PM
This guy's like 13 isn't he?

manic.street.preacher
05-09-2009, 04:02 PM
i'd be well pleased with a draw

ps when someone finds a link for streaming, let me know ... my folks discontinued our subscription to Gol :(

TFC Cityboy
05-09-2009, 04:07 PM
this will be a litmus test for the boys. If we avoid our usual 4-1 mullahing and can grab a point that will be a very positive sign for the campaign, however I fear we will revert to form especially given the amount of games we are playing right now.
Hope I'm wrong.

Stryker
05-09-2009, 04:44 PM
Hopefully the warmer temperatures down there will do our boys a world of good.
Im hoping it helps a particular argentinian player have a break out game.

BFin
05-09-2009, 04:58 PM
I don't think age distinction necessarily reflects a knowledge of the game and the positions. There are many people on here younger than me who know A LOT more than I do. Don't assume because he is young he knows nothing.

Nuvinho
05-09-2009, 05:32 PM
DCU lineup:

SoccerInsider (http://twitter.com/SoccerInsider)dcu: kocic; namoff, jakovic, burch; fred, simms, mctavish, gomez, wallace; emilio, n'silu

This is from Goff - No Moreno or Pontius?

rocker
05-09-2009, 05:39 PM
well they played on wed in KC, so maybe it's cuz of injuries or need for rest.

Stryker
05-09-2009, 05:42 PM
No Moreno or Pontius?
Fuckin A !!!

TFC USA
05-09-2009, 05:44 PM
I still think this is the type of game we're going to blow.

I'm going for a 2-2 draw with goals from DeRo and an OG.

H Bomb
05-09-2009, 05:47 PM
I still think this is the type of game we're going to blow.

I'm going for a 2-2 draw with goals from DeRo and an OG.

you're so miserable dude.

Stryker
05-09-2009, 05:48 PM
I don't know about the score but I'm thinking/feeling/hoping Vitti will bust out a huge game this week and pot a pair.

Nuvinho
05-09-2009, 05:48 PM
DCU: Kocic; Namoff, Jakovic, Burch; Fred, Simms, McTavish, Gomez, Wallace; N'Silu, Emilio. Subs: Crayton, Janicki, John, Olsen, Pontius, Quaranta, Moreno.

Dave67
05-09-2009, 05:51 PM
I don't know about the score but I'm thinking/feeling/hoping Vitti will bust out a huge game this week and pot a pair.


I've got the same feeling about Chad. One of them is going to pop soon.

Nuvinho
05-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Frei
Wynne Serioux Velez Nana
Cronin Guevara Harmse Brennan
DeRo Barrett

H Bomb
05-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Harmse over Robbo?

dantdot
05-09-2009, 06:01 PM
Strange looking lineup

Nuvinho
05-09-2009, 06:02 PM
DC wing players have pace, maybe that's why Nana is there, and Brennan moved up.

Nuvinho
05-09-2009, 06:03 PM
Robbo has food poisioning

dantdot
05-09-2009, 06:03 PM
"Bad news for TFC today with Carl Robinson going down with food poisioning ahead of the match"

TFC USA
05-09-2009, 06:03 PM
you're so miserable dude.

I just finished watching Blackburn/Portsmouth so maybe that's why. :D:D

I believe eventually our lack of finishing is going to kill us against an equal or superior team. We've gotten away with it against the KKKrew and the Shitecaps but DCU is the toughest competition we've faced.

Who knows? Maybe TFC will have these "play up to the standard of the other team" and pull off an upset.

When we face the Fire next week I'm calling a Barrett hat-trick. :drinking::D

MUFC_Niagara
05-09-2009, 06:03 PM
Come On Tfc!!!

Stryker
05-09-2009, 06:04 PM
Robbo has food poisioning
Well thats shitty.



Pun intended.

rocker
05-09-2009, 06:06 PM
I believe eventually our lack of finishing is going to kill us against an equal or superior team. We've gotten away with it against the KKKrew and the Shitecaps but DCU is the toughest competition we've faced.

Who knows? Maybe TFC will have these "play up to the standard of the other team" and pull off an upset.

When we face the Fire next week I'm calling a Barrett hat-trick. :drinking::D

play up to the standard of the opposition??? so you're assuming DC is better than TFC... not sure about that. actually i think we could at best call DC even with Toronto...

i'm not sold on DC's keeper, and three at the back could be troublesome with Vitti.

be positive.. :) if they lose, then you can drown in your beer.

FCBarcelona
05-09-2009, 06:08 PM
c'mon TFC:scarf:


Vamos BARCA
CAMPIONS TOMORROW:D


Lookin forward to a 1-2 win for us:D

Nuvinho
05-09-2009, 06:11 PM
I created an in-game thread.

Stryker
05-09-2009, 06:13 PM
Vamos BARCA
CAMPIONS TOMORROW:D


Lookin forward to a 1-2 win for us:D

O RLY?

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/digifut/Cristiano_Ronaldo_07.jpg?t=1241910630

TFC USA
05-09-2009, 06:15 PM
Can Cummins tell Chad Barrett that the ball is his dick and that the net is the vagina of Jenna Jameson? He'll get 7 tonight.

SLBuu
05-09-2009, 06:16 PM
so anyone have a reliable link when the game starts?

FCBarcelona
05-09-2009, 06:17 PM
O RLY?

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/digifut/Cristiano_Ronaldo_07.jpg?t=1241910630
who's this?

;)

FCBarcelona
05-09-2009, 06:18 PM
so anyone have a reliable link when the game starts?
i'm on matchcenter MLS site
or atdhe.net


TFC 2-1 win tonite:flare:

Hustle
05-09-2009, 06:21 PM
2-1 TFC! I'll buy that for a dollar!

Hustle
05-09-2009, 06:22 PM
Can Cummins tell Chad Barrett that the ball is his dick and that the net is the vagina of Jenna Jameson? He'll get 7 tonight.

Haha.... put a "bacon strip" over the goal!

hrvat87
05-09-2009, 06:39 PM
dc lineup is full of SERBS