Beer Thrower Nabbed...

[Pookie]

Great job by both supporters and security on the weekend.

Just prior to Barrett's goal, a beer was tossed from 113 (or thereabouts).

Supporters pointed out the guy, security was on him like a hawk and the chant "Beer is for drinking, not for throwing" was sung by the south stands.

Over the last 2 games the number of tosses have markedly declined and it appears like those hurling them are being escorted out.

Would love to know if their ticket rights/stadium access became restricted in any way.

Great job all the way around.

[dupont]

Nice job guys. One of my biggest fears is having MLSE clamping down on us and hurting the atmosphere. If they keep seeing that the supporters are capable of self-policing then I think we can preserve what we have.

[Carefree]

That's good to hear. I'm glad the silly "don't rat out fellow supporters" attitude is going away. People who throw stuff on the field (or on other people) aren't "fellow supporters." They're just morons who don't care if they ruin the experience for everyone else, and they shouldn't be protected by those of us who are vocal but respectful.

[drewski]

nobody likes an alcohol abuser

good one ya guys!

[flatpicker]

yup, well done!

I saw that beer get throw (from my vantage point in 111)

I was pissed about that because I thought we were starting to see that nonsense disappear.

But I am happy the idiot was pointed out and dealt with.

I bet he felt stupid when everyone started pointing their fingers at him for security to find.

[DOMIN8R]

Looking forward to the day when beer throwing is shun by everyone and not just the clear minded.

[Martin Groove]

great job and thank you, as my camera got the gist of his pint, absolute low life! Great that he was nabbed!

[Detroit_TFC]

Respect the game, respect beer!

[VoxPopuliCosmicum]

great job and thank you, as my camera got the gist of his pint, absolute low life! Great that he was nabbed!

I'm sure your local ambulancer chasers union representative could assemble a quick-and-dirty lawsuit. Hell, why don't I just talk myself out of a job (http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/courts/guides/MakingClaimJul08EN.pdf)?

[Nodoubtguy]

great job and thank you, as my camera got the gist of his pint, absolute low life! Great that he was nabbed!

Yeah, saw you and the other photog turn around and then you wiping your camera.

Honestly, I think that the streamers need to stop before the beer stops flying. I think people see throwing streamers as acceptable, so beer as maybe just the next step. If the streamers stopped completely, then maybe throwing beer or anything else would seems so out of place......but thats just my thought

[Sonny Cheeba]

^yup. been saying that for a while


what's more ridiculous is the cops and stewards handing streamers back into the stands.

[Roogsy]

Streamers are so 2007. It was great the first year but let's move on.

[Ladies Love Julius James]

^yup. been saying that for a while


what's more ridiculous is the cops and stewards handing streamers back into the stands.


They dont know any better. Year one and even last year we were told it's okay to throw them back as they're permitted.

[FluSH]

Yeah, saw you and the other photog turn around and then you wiping your camera.

Honestly, I think that the streamers need to stop before the beer stops flying. I think people see throwing streamers as acceptable, so beer as maybe just the next step. If the streamers stopped completely, then maybe throwing beer or anything else would seems so out of place......but thats just my thought

I'm actually on the other side of the coin... people have soo much pent up anger at times... give them a streamer during a bad call... and drink your beer instead!

[Martin Groove]

I'm actually on the other side of the coin... people have soo much pent up anger at times... give them a streamer during a bad call... and drink your beer instead!

we have no problem dealing with streamers, they actually make great photos lol, the beer just ticks me off, i stand at the last line before the pitch, and have actually been pretty lucky most of the time with missing the flying ale, the thing is, it tastes so much better in the ole stomach rather then in the air, or on the pitch. I dont know what the league stand is on the streamer situation though, if it is prohibited, then yes we should move on, if not then enjoy yourselves responsibly. The other flying object is peanuts, that needs to end too, there is no need for flying edible objects

[Carts]

I'd like to post an open invitation to anyone wanting to throw a beer...

Please, go buy your $12 beer - then give it to me. :drinking: I'll then give you 2, not 1 but 2 streamers to throw in the air when you would have thrown your beer... I might even give you 3 streamers...

We all win... :scarf:

Carts... :D

[Suds]

I'm actually on the other side of the coin... people have soo much pent up anger at times... give them a streamer during a bad call... and drink your beer instead!

yep ... I think streamers are great when used at the right time (and not at the players) ... they can really add to the atmosphere

I'm glad to see fans are not tolerating people throwing crap and pointing it out to security .. it needs to be completely stamped out!

if anyone really does not want their beer at BMO I'd gladly take it off your hands :drinking:

[Martin Groove]

I'm sure your local ambulancer chasers union representative could assemble a quick-and-dirty lawsuit. Hell, why don't I just talk myself out of a job (http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/courts/guides/MakingClaimJul08EN.pdf)?

on the other hand if something actually did happen to my camera due to a beer being thrown and I did proceed with such a law suit, maybe punks like that would learn their lesson, lol

[Suds]

I'd like to post an open invitation to anyone wanting to throw a beer...

Please, go buy your $12 beer - then give it to me. :drinking: I'll then give you 2, not 1 but 2 streamers to throw in the air when you would have thrown your beer... I might even give you 3 streamers...

We all win... :scarf:

Carts... :D

damn it!!! Carts beat me to it ... OK, after Carts gets his beer I'm next :D

[Carts]

damn it!!! Carts beat me to it ... OK, after Carts gets his beer I'm next :D

:flare:

Carts... :D

[Red CB Toronto]

I am not fuckin snitch, let security catch them, we the supporters should never turn someone in, that is just a bad thing to do.

[flatpicker]

^ for now, being a snitch seems to be the only way to put and end to the stupidity.

Not to mention making sure we don't get nets put up in front of us at some point!

[Nodoubtguy]

I am not fuckin snitch, let security catch them, we the supporters should never turn someone in, that is just a bad thing to do.

worse then hitting a guy with a cup of beer?? really??

[Red CB Toronto]

I completely understand the flare thing, those can be just dangerous, but a beer thrower, drink thrower, whatever, seems a little crazy to point out since most people just got plain soaked by the rain anyway.

[J .]

I completely understand the flare thing, those can be just dangerous, but a beer thrower, drink thrower, whatever, seems a little crazy to point out since most people just got plain soaked by the rain anyway.


No way man they have to be ridiculously punished!

Rats.

[Fort York Redcoat]

One exception. Like in the first season when the opposition celebrated their goal at the touchline, goading the fans. Great Beer Wash.

Still I'D never waste a beer like that.

[Oldtimer]

yep ... I think streamers are great when used at the right time (and not at the players) ... they can really add to the atmosphere

I'm glad to see fans are not tolerating people throwing crap and pointing it out to security .. it needs to be completely stamped out!

if anyone really does not want their beer at BMO I'd gladly take it off your hands :drinking:

The streamer thing, while funny when first done, has run it's course.
I stopped bringing them midway through last year.
Mostly now. it's done by tourists.

[stretchthetruth]

The streamer thing, while funny when first done, has run it's course.
I stopped bringing them midway through last year.
Mostly now. it's done by tourists.

there must have been a lot of 'tourists' in 112 on saturday throwing them at Schelotto...:rolleyes:

[Parkdale]

I am not fuckin snitch, let security catch them, we the supporters should never turn someone in, that is just a bad thing to do.

people who throw beer are performing an action that hurts all supporters.
If nets go up because of these idiots, then everyone loses.

Sure it would be better to take the beer-throwers aside and explain that to them,
but most of them are drunken douchebags, and logical reasoning doesn't work on them.

[Nomad]

No way man they have to be ridiculously punished!

Rats.

A rat is not someone who calls up 1-800-CRIMESTOPPERS.

A rat is someone who does something and then saves his own ass by informing on others who were doing the same thing.

Rat = bad
Calling security over because of some idiot fuck throwing beer = good

[J .]

Sorry guys this mob mentality of picking the person out is unjust anyway we spin it.

It will only take one innocent person getting chucked and as some people want banned for this whole finger pointing to go awry.

But wait its already happened at least getting thrown out.

Ive been kicked out twice. None for beer throwing, but because some anonymous person went to the security guards and said I did something. Ive gone over both stories 1000 times and wont rehash. Those who know, know I am innocent and didnt deserve to get booted.

Beer should not be thrown, anyway we cut it. But I don't trust y'all with the power to decide whether someone should stay or go or even get banned.

If they put up a net cause one or two get thrown. Then we have bigger problems than we think.

[Martin Groove]

I completely understand the flare thing, those can be just dangerous, but a beer thrower, drink thrower, whatever, seems a little crazy to point out since most people just got plain soaked by the rain anyway.

there is a huge difference with getting soaked by something that is an element of nature and expected, to a little punk throwing a brew, that and rain water doesnt stink when spilled on you

[Roogsy]

Sorry guys this mob mentality of picking the person out is unjust anyway we spin it.

It will only take one innocent person getting chucked and as some people want banned for this whole finger pointing to go awry.

But wait its already happened at least getting thrown out.

Ive been kicked out twice. None for beer throwing, but because some anonymous person went to the security guards and said I did something. Ive gone over both stories 1000 times and wont rehash. Those who know, know I am innocent and didnt deserve to get booted.

Beer should not be thrown, anyway we cut it. But I don't trust y'all with the power to decide whether someone should stay or go or even get banned.

If they put up a net cause one or two get thrown. Then we have bigger problems than we think.

I agree that sucks. We have to find something that works. Because I refuse to watch the game behind a net. That is unacceptable but it will happen if we don't take measures.

[Shep]

Berate them heavily for the rest of the match, curse at them, and give them death stares... If I was a beer thrower and everyone around me banded together to make me feel like shit, I'd stop.

They are probably doing it because it seems like a 'cool' thing to do at the time, drunk or not, but once they understand there's nothing cool about it I'd think they'd stop altogether. No fingers pointed, no bans, just people learning match etiquette.

[Nodoubtguy]

Berate them heavily for the rest of the match, curse at them, and give them death stares... If I was a beer thrower and everyone around me banded together to make me feel like shit, I'd stop.

They are probably doing it because it seems like a 'cool' thing to do at the time, drunk or not, but once they understand there's nothing cool about it I'd think they'd stop altogether. No fingers pointed, no bans, just people learning match etiquette.

but at that point the deed is done......

[scooter]

yes agreed the beer throwing is just plain stupid
do we need to point out these idiots---unfortunatly yes cause we are getting blamed
self policing = cover our butts

[rocker]

Sorry guys this mob mentality of picking the person out is unjust anyway we spin it.

some anonymous person went to the security guards and said I did something.

how is 1 anonymous person a "mob mentality"? Mob would be more than 1 person.

It's a shame that 1 person can get another kicked out if nothing happened, but I would think when a group of people saw something happen, you can take their word for it that it happened.
I mean, 10 people aren't going to suddenly decide that someone is a target to tattle on for no reason.
but if 10 people see a guy throw a beer and point him out to security, then so be it.

Now, if it's 1 person's word against another, security should be smart enough not to fall for "he said, he said". But that's not a mob mentality.

[elvis]

As I told two security folks on Saturday, if the beer tossing doesn't stop, there will be violence. You can just feel it in the air in my section (top of 113) and it's not fun.

It has to stop...maybe security and ushers should watch the crowd instead of the game?

PM me mlsintoronto if you want more details...it was a not a fun 2nd half on Saturday.

[flatpicker]

the way I see it... if several people say they witnessed you throwing the beer... then you should be thrown out.
But I don't think that person should have their ticket privileges revoked unless there is some evidence that you 100% committed the foul.
Unfortunately, by self policing, there is the chance the wrong person will get in trouble.
But I think it's a risk we have to take for the greater good of our overall sanity!!!

[Batman]

yes agreed the beer throwing is just plain stupid
do we need to point out these idiots---unfortunatly yes cause we are getting blamed
self policing = cover our butts

I agree with this completely. Anyone can be in our section and toss a beer...even if they're just squatting in the section...and we're all tarred with the same brush.

If enough of it happens, nets go up or beer sales stop in the south end. I want neither of these to occur just because of some idiots.

So, I'm all for pointing out the culprit, and punishing them the way the team sees fit, until the tossing stops, rather than punish the entire south end.

[Shep]

but at that point the deed is done......

Yeah, I'm saying it's better to try to let them know from within that what they've done is stupid - to the point that they won't ever want to consider doing it again, rather than jumping on them for the one mistake and having them kicked/banned.

It's a thrown beer. A mistake, give people a chance to learn from their mistakes is my point. Sure the deed is done, but there are lesser ways to make sure they don't repeat the mistake other than what people are suggesting.

We don't have to tar and feather someone for something like this.

[Dave67]

I hope people don't get banned for throwing one beer. I'm a big fan of the 3 strikes and your out rule. Screw up 3 times and you have pretty much shown your an idiot. Screw up once.. we all make mistakes.

[Blizzard]

I completely understand the flare thing, those can be just dangerous, but a beer thrower, drink thrower, whatever, seems a little crazy to point out since most people just got plain soaked by the rain anyway.

Tell that to the guy who gets a $2000 camera and a $3500 lens soaked by the stuff.

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[J .]

Self policing means supporters handle everything. Not hand over to security.

What if your jumping after a goal and your beer goes flying out of your hand due to condensation. Ive seen someone thrown out over that.

Does that count?

[J .]

Tell that to the guy who gets a $2000 camera and a $3500 lens soaked by the stuff.

B


Dont bring those items or little kids, grandma, grandma or auntie may into supporters section. I wouldn't bring them to a bar.

[Don Julio]

I can see giving a second chance, but why would someone need to be thrown out twice before they realize that they aren't supposed to throw beer.



The real key here is to publicize the punishments. If people see or find out the consequences they will stop. You're never going to be able to ban every beer thrower so you have to get them to stop throwing beer instead.

[Yohan]

The real key here is to publicize the punishments. If people see or find out the consequences they will stop. You're never going to be able to ban every beer thrower so you have to get them to stop throwing beer instead.
Public flogging at centre of the pitch!

[Blizzard]

Dont bring those items or little kids, grandma, grandma or auntie may into supporters section. I wouldn't bring them to a bar.

I am referring to the professional shooters down at field level. They've been sprayed with thrown beer more than once.

[J .]

I am referring to the professional shooters down at field level. They've been sprayed with thrown beer more than once.

Its not 100% nothing is going to happen. Sober journalists should have a better mind to be safe than a crowd of people cheering on edge.

[Blizzard]

Its not 100% nothing is going to happen. Sober journalists should have a better mind to be safe than a crowd of people cheering on edge.

Right sure. They are doing their job shooting the field. The last thing they're thinking about while conducting their livelihood is a pint of beer slamming into their very expensive and often privately owned equipment.

It's not defensible. I can't believe you are trying to justify this.

[TFCinVANCOUVER]

My pops is an alcoholic and he'd fukk that guy up!!!

don't waste beer man!!

[Hooligan69]

Anyone stupid enough to shell out money for ridiculously overpriced beer at BMO just to throw it deserves a punt in the head.

[Waggy]

Self policing means supporters handle everything. Not hand over to security.

What if your jumping after a goal and your beer goes flying out of your hand due to condensation. Ive seen someone thrown out over that.

Does that count?


So you're against a mob mentality in 'ratting', because you don't trust the mob to turn the right person in to security to deal with. Ok, I don't agree with you but I'm following you here. But then you say you'd rather the drunken mob deal with you directly?! Rrrriiight

The LAST thing I'd want to do is narc on somebody, but if you're throwing beer on me, I don't care WHY you did it. You did it! Its not like a bar where you can spill on someone accidentally, if you're 25 rows back, you KNOW your beer isnt making it to the pitch. You KNOW its going to hit fellow supporters. And besides, even if it does make it to the pitch, ITS OUR PITCH! Thats like throwing garbage from your couch onto the floor, then getting mad at your wife/mother/girlfriend/dilligent roommate (see I'm not sexist! haha) for telling you to knock it off. Its just common sense.

[FluSH]

Self policing means supporters handle everything. Not hand over to security.


If you can guarantee me that I can kick someone's ass and not get arrested then that's cool...

Make me that guarantee and more self-policing will happen.

[Hooligan69]

If you can guarantee me that I can kick someone's ass and not get arrested then that's cool...

Back alley fisticuffs with no boys in blue around? :p

[FluSH]

Back alley fisticuffs with no boys in blue around? :p


riiiiiiight... excuse me flare throwing kids... will you please meet me at this alley at this time? West Side story anyone? no thanks...

[Stryker]

Its not 100% nothing is going to happen. Sober journalists should have a better mind to be safe than a crowd of people cheering on edge.
You really just don't get it do you?
For fucks sake you're thick.

[Cadaren]

Self policing means supporters handle everything. Not hand over to security.

What if your jumping after a goal and your beer goes flying out of your hand due to condensation. Ive seen someone thrown out over that.

Does that count?


Common sense prevails here. If that actually happened then you would apologize to everyone around you. Also that beer would not fly the length of the stands to the field.

If I saw anyone meaningfully toss a beer as a projectile then I'm going to point you out.

[james]

Great job by both supporters and security on the weekend.

Just prior to Barrett's goal, a beer was tossed from 113 (or thereabouts).

Supporters pointed out the guy, security was on him like a hawk and the chant "Beer is for drinking, not for throwing" was sung by the south stands.

Over the last 2 games the number of tosses have markedly declined and it appears like those hurling them are being escorted out.

Would love to know if their ticket rights/stadium access became restricted in any way.

Great job all the way around.

ya but we could of done without the stupid chant. There is to many random pointless chants that go around at TFC games that arent even funny and im sure the guy didnt need a chant to get the point when getting arrested.

[Pookie]

I think the point is to highlight in a very public way that this isn't behaviour that the vast majority want to see continue. People do it because they think its cool and think they can get away with it.

Clearly, neither is the case.

As for the kids comments above, if the beers are being thrown towards the pitch... where do you think the volunteer ball retrievers from youth soccer are working?

There are 2 issues with the beer for me.

1. Some nutjob actually threw one from the upper deck last year, missed the pitch and luckly missed fans in the first few rows. A full cup, with lid, tossed from a significant height with gravity and all its glory could have a serious outcome. Stop it entirely.

2. The throwing escalates. If seen to be acceptable, that's a cue for other wankers to throw something else. Someone did bring flares in this year and throw them. Someone did throw a metal railing. These are the wankers I'm talking about.

[Mark in Ottawa]

So eventually the club will install video cameras around the stadium trained on the stands. The recordings will get used for incident review and the perpetrators will not be able to deny responsibility.

Sad... but altogether possible if we don't self police the supporters sections.

[brad]

So eventually the club will install video cameras around the stadium trained on the stands. The recordings will get used for incident review and the perpetrators will not be able to deny responsibility.

Sad... but altogether possible if we don't self police the supporters sections.

It's not just the supporters section. I have lots of scalper seats around me in 105. This year I've noticed a much higher proportion of complete and total douchebags buying them. Twice this year I've had people around me that have been throwing shit (beer, peanuts) at other supporters. They're in the 30th row with no intention of hitting the pitch.

[CretanBull]

^ Cameras wouldn't bother me at all...don't do stupid shit and you've got nothing to worry about. I'm all in favour of self-policing within our group. Most of us know each other and it's not hard to turn to a friend and say "Hey, it might be time to calm down a little bit". My problem stems from the fact that too many non-supporter group members sit in the supporters sections - including hundreds of people sitting in scalpers seats who change from week to week. We don't know those people at all and it's not fair to expect us to act as security over them.

If MLSE wants to give us control of the South stand then I'd be willing to take full responsibility for what happens there. Until that time comes, I'll let them handle security.

[T.Reis]

Great job everybody, not just pointing out the guy who threw the beer, but for also choosing not to tolerate (<- Did I spell that right?) that kind of stuff.

[Zeke_Jones]

there must have been a lot of 'tourists' in 112 on saturday throwing them at Schelotto...:rolleyes:



Hey im no tourist in 112 ive been here a while, I just hate I that weasel bastard so much its a miracle it didnt hit him in the back of the head.

I didnt know we all decided to stop throwing them but ill save the 3 bucks and maybe buy 1/4 of a beer :D

[Wildgreek]

I'm actually on the other side of the coin... people have soo much pent up anger at times... give them a streamer during a bad call... and drink your beer instead!

i agree...streamers add to the atmosphere, and will give fans another option as opposed to throwing beer/flares/coins etc :flare::flare::drinking::drinking:

[J .]

Hand them a streamer, tell them they are wrong.

Using violence through police or your own hands is not worth having someone innocent get punished.

Beer throwing is on the decline, which is good. No one is saying they want violence. In fact, there should be no violence at the ground, by our hands or by the police or by supporters using the police.

If someone came up to me and threatened me, Id bop them before their mouth closed. Most people would. The majority respond better to a 'hey no more of that.'

Calls for lifetime bans all this ridiculous punishment is crazy.

Though in the 200s the rules should be stricter than in the supporters sections.

[Pookie]

Hopefully, the douche that nailed the Whitecaps player on the corner in the 91st minute with a beer was caught and dealt with.

Imagine if that happened at Chelsea vs Barcelona? Security would be all over the guy.

If someone were to google "Bush League" they'd likely get a video replay of that incident. It reflects poorly on us, the team and the city.

Anyone at the game see if security got the guy?

[Sonny Cheeba]

if that happened at Stamford Bridge, security wouldn't just be all over him, they'd be inside too.

[james]

Hopefully, the douche that nailed the Whitecaps player on the corner in the 91st minute with a beer was caught and dealt with.

Imagine if that happened at Chelsea vs Barcelona? Security would be all over the guy.

If someone were to google "Bush League" they'd likely get a video replay of that incident. It reflects poorly on us, the team and the city.

Anyone at the game see if security got the guy?

You know like 2 years ago Chelsea fans use to throw celery at stamford bridge on the field while singing :

Celery, Celery
If she don't cum,
I'll tickle her bum
with a lump of celery

Ya we are busch league, We should throw lettuce instead of beer!!!

[drewski]

You know like 2 years ago Chelsea fans use to throw celery at stamford bridge



they also like to follow in Roman's path and throw away money, in their case, coins

[dinminister]

supporters snitching on other supporters? are you kidding me? i understand if it was an opposing fan but thats horrible. let the guy throw his beer, its funny and entertaining

[mighty_torontofc_2008]

supporters snitching on other supporters? are you kidding me? i understand if it was an opposing fan but thats horrible. let the guy throw his beer, its funny and entertaining


unless you get hit by it or your kids?

[Redpunkfiddle]

supporters snitching on other supporters? are you kidding me? i understand if it was an opposing fan but thats horrible. let the guy throw his beer, its funny and entertaining

Whether 'snitching' is appropriate might be up for debate, but if you have spent any time here you'd see that throwing stuff isn't.

[napoli73]

I have seen Parents with kids getting hit last year and thought it was pretty sad. Shit like this pisses me off because it won't be long before the rest of us pay for these losers.

[elvis]

Yah, real funny when my pregnant wife gets hit in the head with a beer. What a douche bag.

[FluSH]

supporters snitching on other supporters? are you kidding me? i understand if it was an opposing fan but thats horrible. let the guy throw his beer, its funny and entertaining

I don't think you know what SNITCHING means... you have no fucking clue.

[rocker]

supporters snitching on other supporters? are you kidding me? i understand if it was an opposing fan but thats horrible. let the guy throw his beer, its funny and entertaining

what a great 3rd post in your history on this board. ;)

can't wait to see post #4.

[nfitz]

supporters snitching on other supporters? are you kidding me? i understand if it was an opposing fan but thats horrible. let the guy throw his beer, its funny and entertainingAnyone who tosses beer should be tossed out of the stadium and have his tickets removed for the season; they are scum.

Anyone who doesn't "snitch" should be tossed out of the stadium and have his tickets removed for the season; they are scum.

[Four 4 Two]

dinminister.......funny for who? the players that get hit? The fans that get hit? Or you watching on TV? NOBODY likes alcohol abuse!!

[iansmcl]

Wind-up artist... move along... move along...

[BFin]

Throwing a beer is disrespectful to the security who have asked only one thing of us, and that is to throw nothing on the field. Hitting someone with a beer is also disrespectful to them, as they clearly did not want anything to do with it.

Read the rules and grow up.